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Weedle McHairybug

aka Eric Otness

  • I live in Dunwoody, Georgia
  • I was born on February 14
  • I am Male


Hi, welcome to Dragon Ball Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Talk:General Blue page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- PrinceZarbon (Talk) 01:35, November 2, 2009

Well, it wasn't really much of a message as it was trying to add signatures to the posts that I made some time ago, like you suggested. Although, speaking of General Blue, I might as well explain soon why I have doubts about him being a confirmed homosexual whenn I have the chance. Weedle McHairybug 11:20, November 2, 2009 (UTC)


hey, you think you can find a picture of Broly using goku's body as a trampoline in Movie 8, for the bloody smash page. i'll try to help too{{:X20Kaio-kenKamehameha}} 23:22, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to help. Although it will be difficult, seeing how we don't really get any clear shots of Goku and Broly when Broly's jumping on him. I think the closest is when Broly jumps away shortly after accomplishing the attack. Weedle McHairybug 23:25, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah! thats the one im looking for!{{:X20Kaio-kenKamehameha}} 20:14, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I checked Google and Bing, nothing came up that matched it. Do you know of any places that contain movie images of Movie 8? Weedle McHairybug 20:16, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

no, but im'a check to see{{:X20Kaio-kenKamehameha}} 20:22, April 12, 2010 (UTC)


Hey there. I see what you are trying to get at with "English" being the larger accent category that things like "American English" and others fit in to. I'm afraid that just isn't the case though with this particular piece of English vernacular. This is because an "English" accent itself refers to the accent found in the nation of England. The difficulty comes in the fact that the name of the language and the name of the country are one in the same. "British" on the other hand refers to the three nations found within the island of Britain: England, Scotland, and Wales. So there is really no such thing as a "British" English accent. So in this case, the correct term would be an "English" accent as that, oddly enough, is the more specific of the choices. GTGohanBlueGroup6blue400 1203477316 wwwtengoverguenzablogspotcom-luis-v-blue-goku 01:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Nice Job!

Nice work on the Android 15 page! Sometimes loose ends like that can sit for a very long time until someone ambitious comes along and fixes it. I thought I should stop by and let you know how impressed I was at how quickly you answered the request for more info. Keep it up! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:29, September 20, 2010 (UTC)



Captain Jim Logan 01:44, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I do not know, but I do know that to prevent more people from sinning, that shouldn't be added in. I can only guess that it was for Maron. If the picture is indeed legitmate and not a photoship, it should be labelled under mature content. If you should ask anyone, it should be the guy who actually uploaded it, V.1. Weedle McHairybug 01:46, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


I apologise for what V.1 did, he is my Cousin and he has gotten me and himself into trouble MANY MANY times in the past. But yes that picture he uploaded is real, its like from some Dub in Ireland

Captain Jim Logan 03:17, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so the pic is apparently real... And apparently it was from an Irish dub. Well, depending on whether Dragonball Wiki will allow stuff content from foreign dubs besides the American and Japanese dubs, and although I'm personally against it (since, besides my religious beliefs [I'm Roman Catholic/Episcapalian], stuff like that is not in good taste), I may have to discuss with some moderators as to whether to allow it in, considering that, my personal beliefs aside, this is a Wiki, and any facts that are real, verifiable and not faked in any way have to be included, good or bad. Besides, Dragonball has had its fair share of adult content anyways, in fact, that's the reason we have mature content tags in some articles. You might have to either have V.1 get that Irish dub or hunt for it yourself to verify if that is the case. Weedle McHairybug 12:15, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, there is something else. That Maron pic needs to be reloaded. Personally, I'd rather it not be reuploaded, but in this case, its necessary since I kinda had to post a link to PrinceZarbon to review and make the final decision as to whether it should be uploaded or not, and since the image is deleted, there won't be a settlement one way or another. While I could declare it unwiki and not allow it in, that would have seemed cheap, and I personally prefer doing it only when the Mod makes the decision after review. Weedle McHairybug 15:03, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


Well, idk my buddy found it on some website that had Dubs that allowed stuff like that. But i will try and find something and that pic is real! again i will try and find the Dub or something and Youtube wont allow that dub on it!

Captain Jim Logan 22:49, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it won't matter anyways. Turns out I was mistaken. The mature tags would not allow something like that. Besides which, as I said before, I won't allow it in anyways since my religion trained me to not like this sort of material, not to mention the fact that its in bad taste anyways. However, if it at least proves that it exists, you might have to post the link to show 10XKamehameha. Weedle McHairybug 22:53, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

i may have made a mistake...

My buddy who gave me thay Maron pic(WHICH I AM SO SRRY MY COUSIN PUT ON HERE, you know its a kids site) was also from Japan. well heres the whole story.

My buddy went to Japan for Spring Break last year and was watching an episode where he got the pic, and when he went to Ireland in the Summer he watched the same Episode and saw it there so it can also be considered a Japan Pic, but the Episode in Japan he watched was Unedited and Uncecored Just so you know.

Captain Jim Logan 00:04, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, I thought Maron was still wearing a bathing suit in the Japanese version, just a more skimpy one? Weedle McHairybug 02:01, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
Well yes but the Dub he was watching was the UNEDITED, UNCENSORED version. idk if it is Cannon.
Captain Jim Logan 04:06, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Tao footnote

This is not like this that we do a footnot, what you've done is added the sentence as it was a reference. This is not references. Jeangabin666 00:15, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

My apologies. I'll need to find out how to actually do it that actually resembles a footnote. Weedle McHairybug 00:16, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Personaly I think it would be better in brackets. But you can try this:1

1In the Japanese version, the amount was actually five million Zeni.

Jeangabin666 00:24, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to use the built-in method, you can also do [1]


  1. In the Japanese version, the amount was actually five million Zeni.

-- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:30, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Like this, this would be a reference, not a footnote?! Jeangabin666 08:41, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I mean yah, but it's just for convenience in case there are already references. If not, you can just do:


  1. In the Japanese version, the amount was actually five million Zeni.

-- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:44, March 20, 2011 (UTC)


Hi, we're doing a quick vote on a minor wording change on the Full Power Super Saiyan talk page, and I was wondering if you could choose your favorite option. The vote is taking place here: Talk:Full-Power_Super_Saiyan#Votes. Thanks! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:39, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Red Ribbon thanks !

Thank you very much for improving the Red Ribbon's and Commander Red's pages :D Jeangabin666 09:50, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Weedle McHairybug. I'm Mr. Pickpocket, and I'm also an active user on the Dragon Ball wiki. I have read your profile, and I see that you spell very good, like me (although I sometimes make errors). Well, if you want to talk sometimes, leave a message on my talk page. I'm 14 years old, and even though I'm still quite young, I'm very experienced with grammar. Well, I hope we can be friends :-). - Mr. Pickpocket! 13:01, June 24, 2011 (UTC) -

Hello there!

Hi! My name is Mr. Pickpocket, I hope we can be friends! :) - Mr. Pickpocket! 21:11, June 28, 2011 (UTC) -

My bad

Sorry about those undo revisions on Grand Elder Guru and Namekian Dragon Balls. My computer lags quite a few times as it made me press "Publish" instead of "Preview". GokuSuperSaiyanI02CJSTRO14GokuSSIIDemo01talkGokuSuperSaiyanIIINVcontribsGokuSuperSaiyan4DBGT 00:46, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

About my recent Vegeta edits

How are my edits biased? I'm just saying most of the time the manga references which are the original version, should be used as they are the most accurate versions. It's the same situtation with Gohan being either Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 when he fought Dabura and Fat Buu in the manga/anime even though the manga version is the correct one since for some reason, the artist made him had one lock of hair for his Super Saiyan form even though before he had two. Also his aura was only Super Saiyan. I'm also pretty sure that the animators just made Vegeta's and Trunks' muscles bigger to make them look tougher in their Super Saiyan forms as in the manga, they had only Super Saiyan auras. Besides the animators make alot of mistakes as they make the Super Saiyan form have lightning and the Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan forms not have any. Also sure they were Ascended Super Saiyan forms when they fought Broly but against Bojack, they were just Super Saiyan because:

1. Trunks' jacket did not rip when he transformed

2. Both Vegeta and Trunks didn't seem to have bigger muscles.

Just because Vegeta's hair was spiky when he transformed doesn't mean he was an Ascended Super Saiyan. Just thought I share what my views are. BlackGhost91 23:48, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

It's more along the lines of your trying to make it seem as though that's the only transformation that happened elsewhere. I'm just trying to list both the Anime and the Manga so people would see. I mean, Broly isn't canon to the manga, yet you don't see me trying to delete him from the wiki just because he's not canon to the Manga. I see this as similar in terms of principle. Sorry if I'm mistaken. Weedle McHairybug 23:57, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
Well I wasn't trying to make it seem like that. You see, the Naruto and Bleach wikas are rather organized compared to this and they usually have manga references all the time so I thought I could do the same thing. You seem to did a good job with that though. I know it might seem like what I'm saying makes no sense but what I can tell you is that I won't get into a editing war with you lol and I finally agree with you. BlackGhost91 04:34, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

May I help you?

Hi. I saw your message in the Wookieepedia. I like Dragon Ball since it started as Japanese manga. If you have a trouble, I can help, probably. Z-sword (talk) 14:37, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

It's too long! Jpn-to-Eng is more difficult than E-to-J. I'm busy. A long time is required to translate it. What do you want to know?  If you have some specific questions about Broly, I think I can answer. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:53, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


It's too long! Jpn-to-Eng is more difficult than E-to-J. I'm busy. A long time is required to translate it. What do you want to know?  If you have some specific questions about Broly, I think I can answer. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:53, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, the only thing of note that needs to be settled is whether or not Koyama either said Broly was stronger than Bills or what the comparison for Bills was for, as well as his views on Broly's power level. Right now, we've got a debate going on as to what Koyama actually said. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:53, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
At the piont when The Legendary Super Saiyan released, Koyama said "Broly is the strongest man in the Doragon Ball world, including not only original films but also TV anime. Goku and his friends would absolutely never win him. But they have always fought the opponents who they can never win. Goku could win such opponents only when they were off guard. If Goku would fought against Broly alone, he would lose. None would be able to win Broly with an orthodox method. "
And he said "We could not imagine or create the characters who are stronger than Blory for the next films. As a story writer, and as a staff of DBZ, I believe Blory is the strongest character. It is my hope."
But later, Koyama saw the new film, "Battle of Gods". This is the first film that Akira Toriyama joined as a main staff. In the setting of the film, Bills is the strongest man. He is much stronger than Blory. If Bills is a Yokozuna (the highest rank in sumo), Broly is a Fundoshi-katsugi (lowest).
But Koyama said "The Blory's impression in a screen was much terrifying than Bills. Would it be my desire as the creator of Broly? But I had never created more than settings said in the film about Blory." Recently, Koyama has avoided the discussion of Blory. He removed many past comments about Blory from the official BBS. Z-sword (talk) 05:31, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I've made sure to note this on the talk page. Koyama's actions on the matter are a bit conflicting, although most likely Bills is indeed stronger. If that's the case, so be it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:05, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


hey i was thinking since you know a lot about broly, maybe you can tell what should be the multiplyer of LSSJ at least? LancerEX (talk) 17:31, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Since I don't have anything official regarding that, I'm afraid I can't do that. Even if I did, there's also the issue about power increases while in that form, as both Movie 8 and various video games such as the Raging Blast series and Burst Limit demonstrated), meaning I can't give an accurate gauge on it. One thing is for certain, though, it was certainly strong enough to wipe out two FPSSJs, two ASSJs, and a Super Namek, simultaneously, with barely any effort, and if Burst Limit's story mode for Broly and a throwaway line from Movie 8 is of any indication, may even surpass SSJ2 Teen Gohan. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:52, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
CAn i assume it is atleast 2x. because i dont think there is any transformation in DBZ where the users power increases less than 2x of his previuos form's power. if there is , pls let me know.LancerEX (talk) 07:45, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
Try above 3x a Super Saiyan, and you're probably closer to the mark. We definitely know it had to surpass ASSJ (which Vegeta explicitly stated increased a Super Saiyan's power by three-fold), and based on how Goku reacted regarding Broly fighting Gohan as well as Burst Limit's Broly mode, it definitely had to surpass SSJ2. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:25, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
since SP cell required a full power kamehameha to destroy earth and he was somewhat equal to SSj2 teen gohan, i think broly is far more powerful than ssj2teen gohan and Sp cell, beacuse it is evident that he can destroy planets with a simple blast. i think this is enough to prove LSSJ broly is powerful  than any ssj2. and since brolys PL constantly rises, really anything is possible. LancerEX (talk) 16:21, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


Are you interested in my collectibles project? Do you like the current setup and the full roster I've compiled? Are there any pieces you'd like to see sooner? Are you a collector yourself? Just looking for friendly feedback. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:15, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not really a collector, not of DBZ at least. Actually, that Broly figure is the only one I have. I'll try to glean information on collections if I have time, but don't expect me to make it into a hobby. Besides, I'll need a full list of stores to even get started. I definitely remember seeing an action figure of SSJ4 Broly once, though. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:25, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
So what do you collect, if anything? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:10, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
Well, when I was a kid, I collected Pokemon figures. I don't really do that anymore (and even that wasn't really "collecting" so much as trying to rescue members of the Pokemon Crew, which is where my username came from [I'll give you a hint, its basically the Pokemon equivalent of Star Fox]). I also did collect Simpsons figures, although, again, I don't do that anymore, either. Also Beast Wars, though not anymore, or Gargoyles for that matter. I also have subscriptions to Nintendo Power and to some extent Electronic Gaming Monthly, although I stopped doing EGM, and NP is done now. Probably the closest thing to an actual collection recently are Nintendo games/systems (even the Virtual Boy) and Play Arts KAI Peace Walker figurines, and the latter was mainly for the passcodes to access their content for the Metal Gear Wiki, which I just barely managed to accomplish by late August, early September of this year due to PW's DLC center about to be shut down by the end of the latter month. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:20, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
Of the things you mentioned, I myself collected Simpsons figures, Gargoyles, and EGM as well as Nintendo Power. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:11, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
Guess that's a few things we have in common (although I guess unlike me, you're probably still collecting EGM, although correct me if I'm wrong). Part of the reason why I'm not doing Pokemon anymore is due to my boycotting the franchise. Let's put it this way, when the Anime creators decided to replace Misty, especially in an intensely disrespectful and poorly thought out manner, for the self-confessed purpose of eyecandy (something that was confirmed later, but strongly suspected by her fans, including myself, since after her removal), and her "replacements" are basically the equivalent of Maron (to use a DBZ example) in terms of personality and in one case appearance in what I would call the Female Anime Stereotype, something I was effectively taught to hate since at least the episode Princess vs. Princess, regardless of whether my being taught that was intentional or not, and the Anime producers outright ignore repeated requests from her fans to bring her back, they definitely deserve a boycott. I mean, yeah, I am naturally hardwired to be attracted to the opposite sex (and had to go to Confession more than a few times for instances where I succumbed to it anyways), but that doesn't mean they should treat women like that, especially since it is wrong. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 02:53, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
I understand your reasoning for boycotting the Pokemon franchise in the sense that they changed the characters and replaced them with the stereotypical archetype. I myself never liked the Pokemon franchise because it was very child oriented for me. Let's put it this way, if there's no killing in it, I probably won't like it. That doesn't mean I don't like everything else out there if it lacks violence. It just seems more childish and less serious to me as an atmosphere. I think Pokemon was primarily loved due to the video games and card games. But as a series, it suffered a great deal in terms of having a purpose and being as idiotic as any other children's programming. I'm sure Digimon is probably deeper, although I don't like that either. I myself don't even consider the "creatures" or "monsters" in Pokemon to be characters as they are all a species and what not. I prefer actual characters to little cretins who are captured and used to fight each other in a campy manner. I think the only actual franchises I hate though are Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and South Park. I have too many favorites though, so it's my right to dislike the aforementioned. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:36, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


is it mentioned anywhere in DBZ that, broly cannot become LSSJ3 or broly cannot go beyond LSSJ?

Weedle mah boi

Did you really think Toriyama made that image at first?:O SS7S1BuuSS7S2 uuuSS7S3 uuuSS7S5 uuuSS7S4 uuu!!SS7S6 20:28, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Warning - Edit War

You are currently edit warring on two pages. Please note that you cannot simply make a note on the talk page and then make your edit again. The purpose of the talk page discussion is to reach a consensus, then edit the page once after all parties agree on the outcome. Thank you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:06, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

This edit

Are you sure about this? I played DBZ 2 V a few times and I'm sure that Frieza/Cooler can only transform into fifth form while in Cooler's skin, with his own colors and stuff. Can you find a picture? Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 13:46, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

The only pic I could find is here on this site: Frieza_5th_Form.jpg
Other than that, I've only managed to find out about Frieza apparently having access to a near carbon copy of his brother's fifth form from here:
I'll do some digging at the latter source. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:54, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

The pic you linked is fan-made. I also found in wikipedia, but wikipedia is a bad source. I'm removing it until you can find a better source. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 13:56, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, never mind, someone deleted it from Wikipedia by the time I was about to ask. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:57, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

It was me who removed it, haha. I also removed this paragraph:

"In Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission, Freeza seems to appear with a new form that is as strong as four Super Saiyan 3s. This form resembles a taller version of his first form with more armor. However it is possible that this is actually the similarly named Froze - who is the same species as Freeza"

It is Froze, so you can see that wikipedia is not that reliable. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 14:01, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

two/three wishes

Read here. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 01:57, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, though it still doesn't exactly answer why Goku mentioned there were two more wishes after they wished for the mass revival in "I Kill No More". Still, if it's addressed, then the edit is withdrawn, assuming you haven't done it already. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 02:00, March 8, 2015 (UTC)


I shouldn't have to leave this message but edit warring is against site policy so please leave the article as it was and use the article talk page to discuss your edit until an overall consensus is reached.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  06:50,1/18/2017 

Broly and Golden Frieza.

You should probably be aware that describing the characters powers on the articles is divided into sections Though they all haven't been set up like this.

On beerus' page. it goes with what he showed. (Movies, then anime and manga) Then statements and guides like akira's interview on his power. Then what is said and shown in video games and not just the plot of the games. Everyone knows that video games outside the story mode are what if battles so putting in that much detail isn't really necessary and clogs up the articles. 0551E80Y (talk) 14:54, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, but the problem is that part was listed under Usage and Powers section in the first place. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:03, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

Legendary stuff

Please stop adding speculation to these pages. I get that ur a big fan of the Bro, but we gotta go by the official information, even if fan opinion makes more sense.--Neffyarious (talk) 14:55, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

  • Were really startin to clutter the recent wiki activity. That aint good, please stop adding speculation where it is not needed.--Neffyarious (talk) 14:58, May 12, 2017 (UTC)
First of all, The standard Great Ape form is brown, not gold/green, that's Golden Super Saiyan. And the Great Ape form lacks super saiyan traits such as a spiked head where the hair would be, while Golden Great Ape has that, so no, it's pretty obviously Golden Great Ape.
Second of all, it's not speculation, it's common sense. Or should we list practically ALL Super Saiyan forms as Legendary Super Saiyan simply because they were officially called those forms by the various characters?
Third of all, the setting of the movie was during the 10 day wait, meaning it was AFTER Gohan and Goku left the ROSAT, and considering they were in FPSSJ form during that movie, it's pretty obvious it was AFTER the events you described, and since it was AFTER that, that means, obviously that Goku had witnessed Gohan turn into a Super Saiyan 2 due to the flashback in Cell's Mighty Breakdown, which was pretty obviously before they had gained the FPSSJ forms due to Goku being in base form at that time, when upon getting the FPSSJ form, they spent their time maintaining the form uninterrupted. Does the term "common sense" truly mean absolutely nothing to you? Besides, claiming he IS just a Great Ape is speculation in and of itself, since there's literally NOTHING pointing to that besides name (which, BTW, means zilch, since otherwise, we might as well say Broly is officially one of the Gods of Destruction just because he was called that in some of the games, or even Gotenks). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:05, May 12, 2017 (UTC)
EDIT: In fact, regarding a source about Broly being brown haired as a Great Ape, here's a picture showcasing it. In fact, you should be familiar with the picture, since you uploaded it to Villains Wiki.
Oozarubroly goku modelkit b
Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:06, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

For now I'm just gonna leave the LSS Broly > SS2 Gohan thing alone. Ok look, here's the thing, I agree with you. I do think that the green Great Ape form used by Broly is his Golden Great Ape form. But the problem is it does not matter what you or I think. I'm really sorry, I was the one who put that info on Legendary Great Ape's page because I thought it was true, and I still do. Thing is we cannot speculate, the game calls him a "Great Ape" and sure he exhibits traits of a GGA, but he's also a LSS and we know that their forms work differently, him being a LSS could impact his GA form. Bardock can transform from a Super Saiyan into a Great Ape in DBH, so Broly being LSS3 before going GA isn't important. The name does matter in this case, as in the game any one who turns into a brown Great Ape is called a "Great Ape" in the game, and anyone who turns into a super Great Ape is called "Golden Great Ape". So. based on what we know we have to put that he's simply a "Great Ape". Lastly, those model kits are not official, otherwise they would be listed on the character pages.--Neffyarious (talk) 01:52, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Broly's "Base" height

225 cm is where his hair ends...if you had a mohawk would you include that too your height as well?!

Fine, correct it if you must. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:22, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

Your post on my site

Since you apparently didn't see it on my discussion page I'll quote:

And what exactly does that matter, considering that Gohan was stronger than Goku at that point? Also, the argument that he made Gohan flee is also kinda weak considering that the SSJ2 stage wasn't revealed at that point. 

Also, it's basic Saiyan logic that Broly got a Zenkai, given that he was near-death after Movie 8.

Forenperser (talk) 12:39, July 15, 2017 (UTC)


To address that point, the exact words in what Kayoma said about the films were villains that Goku specifically fought. Not the Z-Fighters in general, but Goku specifically. Bojack and Bio-Broly were NOT fought by Goku. In fact, of the three villains where Goku was dead during the actions (not counting Fusion Reborn, obviously), the closest Goku got to playing a direct role in actually beating the villain by his own hand was in Broly Second Coming when he temporarily returned to Earth and played a very big role with his Kamehameha in actually stopping Broly from blowing up the Earth and hurtling him into the sun, and even that has the ending leaving it ambiguous as to whether he even was present or if Shenron gave an illusion.
So far as your point about SSJ2 wasn't revealed at that point, neither was Dende becoming the new Guardian of Earth revealed when Return of Cooler came out, yet that never stopped the film from not only mentioning Dende being Guardian of the Earth, but also proceeding to play a fairly big role in the film (since he was the reason the Z-Fighters went over to New Namek to quell the disaster that befell the planet). Or do I have to remind you that the movie pretty much spoiled Dende's new job several months before even the Manga revealed this to be the case, much less the anime? If they can do that with Dende, they most CERTAINLY can have Gohan go SSJ2 and beat Broly there. Heck, they can even preserve continuity in the film by having Gohan after beating him forgetting what had happened. You know, sort of like how Dead Zone ended where Gohan managed to beat Garlic Jr. and didn't even remember the fight, with Goku thinking he'll tell him about it when he's older.
And I know that he got Zenkai/Saiyan Power after Movie 8, that's not even in dispute there. What WAS in dispute is whether Bojack was actually STRONGER than Movie 8 Broly (which actually has more to do with how Koyama mentioned the description of each movie villain's progressing power over the previous one than anything else. If he just said something like "each movie villain the Z-Fighters fought has to be stronger than the previous one", I wouldn't have much of a problem in assuming that Bojack might be stronger, even with the issue regarding SSJ2). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:50, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Quotes for Super and Broly

I'm creating the quote pages for DB Super and I started with Dragon Ball Super: Broly (Quotes). I'm asking all users who are good with quotes to help adding them in. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:41, February 28, 2019 (UTC)

Well, I haven't actually seen the movie yet, so I can't be of much help. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:47, February 28, 2019 (UTC)
What about Battle of Gods and F then? DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:38, February 28, 2019 (UTC)
Haven't seen those, either. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 06:38, February 28, 2019 (UTC)
I just found out they exist but only one user worked on them, so they still need expanding. Here they go, Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods (Quotes) and Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ (Quotes). DragonEmeperor (talk) 07:26, February 28, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Weedle, you watched all of DBZ Kai right because I created the first page for their quotes and need help with it. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:59, March 8, 2019 (UTC)

Nope, haven't watched those either. That being said... I could try to see if I could get them as well as the Super Broly quotes from Wikiquote. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 02:05, March 8, 2019 (UTC)
I checked already and they weren't made there either. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:07, March 8, 2019 (UTC)

Ok I finally resolved the links

They were moved to imgur and work fine now, so the refs can be updated. FlatZone (talk) 16:40, September 10, 2019 (UTC)

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