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Dragon has been banned for a couple months. That was not an easy decision to make, it's been something I've tried putting off doing for longer than I should have. It will make some things more difficult but if it's going to come to the point where we're going to lose other members over it (of which we already lost one) then I have to do something.
Hopefully that will cause you to reconsider leaving. I didn't ban him specifically because of you but because other users, especially new users need to feel like they can breathe and make contributions freely without a struggle.Bullza (talk) 03:08, March 27, 2019 (UTC)
- Well it's not that he does anything malicious nor does it go out of his way to cause these issues. I get where he's coming from so he can't be banned permanently as though he were some vandal or spammer, he just needs to give other people a chance to meditate freely even if there contributions aren't quite perfect.Bullza (talk) 04:00, March 27, 2019 (UTC)
- I never said he was a bad person, I just feel like he should give other users a chance to showcase their knowledge about the Dragon Ball franchise because I do understand where he’s coming from as I mainly know he’s only doing this just to keep the wiki safe from vandalism and keeping wrong information out but sometimes he can edit war with other users over the littlest things and I think his edit warring comes from the mere fact he’s just trying to protect this wiki and I feel users like him should be around to ensure that this wiki is safe because seeing the amount of contributions he has, I know for sure that he knows Dragon Ball a lot better than I do and it just wouldn’t make sense for someone like him not to be around. Though the only thing he needs to do is stop edit warring with other users and just give them a chance without removing their edits because it shows that you can work with other users even if you don’t particularly agree with them so this wiki doesn’t have to be like it’s a competition. I’m just as guilty as he is because I do edit war as well and I don’t condone anyone to edit war because it doesn’t set a good example to other users. Please unblock him because we really do need him because with me having to focus on other things more important sometimes I don’t have time to check up on the wiki and I know DragonEmeperor is a regular user in this site so he knows if articles are vandalized or not. So please let him in again because we really have to talk to each other as fellow users of this site and understand one another well so this doesn’t happen again. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:22, March 27, 2019 (UTC))
- I see where you’re coming from but since Kai has its own separate stuff especially in this wiki, it’s best just to list it even though it’s a remastered version of DBZ because Kai is still its own product essentially and still related to dragon ball media and the franchise so it’s best to list it as a Sony product since products related to Kai have been released in blu Ray and Sony fits under that category for Dragon Ball z kai. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 07:00, March 28, 2019 (UTC))
Autonomous Ultra Instinct
Sorry I accidentally removved transformation in the autonomous ultra instinct. i thought it was vandalised but then I checked history. Sorry! Please forgive me!InfinityDestroyer (talk) 04:06, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
- No problem. You’re good. At least you changed it back so now the problem is fixed. And thanks for acting based on possible vandalism even though the page wasn’t vandalized. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 04:17, May 21, 2019 (UTC))
I tried to discuss the edits with the one that is undo my edits, they won't answer. Call the admins if you like, I'm sick of not getting a response from them.
Explain to me where it was said that SSJR was SSGSS? I remember seeing that in the anime it was Black's Super Saiyan 1, because they misunderstood what Akira Toriyama gave them.
Just like Blue, Rose is a mixture of godly power with Super Saiyan. Blue is attained when a Saiyan mixes their Super Saiyan God power with the regular Super Saiyan. Rose is attained when a Saiyan, prior to reaching Super Saiyan God, had already had natural godly power or Ki due to prior status as a god and mixes that power with their regular Super Saiyan form turning them to Rose. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:10, May 21, 2019 (UTC))
here is the translated source, which this is the V-Jump Source I mentioned in the other talk page. It is then proven that Goku Black has the normal SS form, and then his own SSGSS form which is Rose. FlatZone (talk) 06:01, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
Good source, it might make things more clearer. I was actually trying to find a translated version. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:10, May 21, 2019 (UTC))
I didn't ask for your input and i wasn't talking to you in the first place. It's not even your talk page. --Nikon23 11:32, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
- As a user of this wiki, I’m free to talk in any talk page regardless if it’s my talk page or not. And I noticed you started calling Bullza rude and offensive for simply trying to explain why we changed certain characters names back to the original names in the Japanese broadcast. It is not your place to call someone rude or offensive for simply trying to explain something to you especially when I know that Bullza is not rude person and has actually helped me around this wiki especially if I have conflicts with other users. Bullza is a well respected user especially by me and I will speak out for him if I know Bullza didn’t do anything wrong against you or any other user as Bullza is there to help. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 11:40, May 21, 2019 (UTC))
Once again...I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU, SO MIND YOUR BUSINESS. I CAN ASSUME WHATEVER I WANT. What is your problem? --Nikon23 12:01, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
I don't care or did i ask for a explanation. I been here way longer than you. So once again i wasn't tqliking to you. Go find some attention from someone who cares --Nikon23 12:04, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
No one has a problem here except you. You’re the one calling Bullza rude, for who knows what. And coming to my talk page bringing in some nonsense that shouldn’t really be necessary. And yeah I commented on why you called Bullza rude because based on the exchange you two made Bullza wasn’t being rude at all. And if you did look at the explanation on the name changes then why are you asking Bullza about the name changes? Look, it is never your place to call someone rude especially when they’re trying to explain something to you and I really appreciate it if you don’t do it as this can lead to a situation such as this one that we’re in right now. I never meant for the comment to bring any ill will and it really doesn’t matter if I comment on something even I wasn’t initially apart of it as it could’ve been a way for me to explain to you instead of Bullza and besides it wasn’t like I was being in any way shape or form disrespectful to you I only commented on Bullza not being rude when he was clearly not being rude so I would really appreciate for this feud to end. It’s not the place for all this bickering. (Sosuagwu17 (talk))
For the last time, i wasn't talking to you and I don't care what you have to say. Are You his bodyguard?! I'm not responding to this anymore. You're whining is pathetic at this point. Attention seeker are always trying to make something out of nothing. How about you get off the computer and go outside. I'm going to go do what grown ups do and go to work. Ok champ 😒
There is no fued so i would appreciate if you once again mind your business. Trying to get brownie points with administration 🤣--Nikon23 13:07, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah don’t respond as this shouldn’t have been brought up in the first place and is meaningless. You should be the one to grow up for whining over something so little just for me simply making a comment on the exchange and you making a huge fuss about it. This is not needed in my talk page or in this wiki in general especially when someone is trying to help you and you’re calling him rude and offensive for no reason. I’m done with this and this shouldn’t have even been brought. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:18, May 21, 2019 (UTC))
Blah! Blah! Blah! Take your own advice first and stop acting like a attention seeker already. They're not going to make you a administrator 🤣🤣--Nikon23 13:23, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
And I didn't ask for help --Nikon23 13:24, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
And if he had a problem with what i said, then he would of said something, not you.
This is pointless and you being here in my talk page with this nonsense is pointless, so you know what i’m not even going to respond anymore. I tried to have this senseless bickering stop but it goes in one ear and comes out the other so you know what. I’m not even going to respond anymore. End of conversation. And you can quit arguing as this won’t take us anywhere and it is best to act like this never happened and really work with each other as fellow editors of this wiki. If you were upset for me butting in your conversation, then i’m sorry. And I never meant for this to go to this lengths. I hope you can be able to forgive me for the trouble I caused you even though it wasn’t my intention as I want to ensure I maintain a good relationship with other users of this wiki so I apologize for any of your ill feelings toward me and I hope we can reconcile as fellow editors. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:35, May 21, 2019 (UTC))
I told you to leave me alone. This is a entire new day and you keep bring up yesterday. You are really pathetic at this point😒--Nikon23 22:44, May 22, 2019 (UTC)
Nothing, this was a matter between me and Nikon23 and it’s settled. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:55, May 26, 2019 (UTC))
sorry for vandalizing
IM NOT OLD ENOUGH TO GO TO JAIL
I’m glad to hear that you’re sorry. But please don’t vandalize pages as that can get you blocked from this wiki. This wiki is meant for people to contribute not vandalize. Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:20, May 27, 2019 (UTC))
It doesn't matter if it is used for personal pages or not the use of gif images is not approved on this wiki. We try to keep this wiki free of clutter even if it is from a scene in the series it must have a proper place in the wiki, user pages do not count.--Tuxedo12 (talk) 01:46, May 28, 2019 (UTC)
No where in the rules that stated that gifs can’t be used in userpages. It only said that it can’t be posted or used in main articles. I know Gifs are a very strict thing in this wiki but when it is in a personal userpage then that shouldn’t be a problem. It never said that adding gifs to userpages doesn’t count but adding fanart to userpages definitely doesn’t count as stated by the rules but did say fanart is permitted unless to describe oneself or use it as your profile picture. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:51, May 28, 2019 (UTC))
None of my gifs are in articles so that should be good? (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:57, May 28, 2019 (UTC))
And plus even if the pictures I uploaded are not in proper pages or articles I still am able to upload pictures in my userpage. Other users besides myself have done this even admins for that matter so this shouldn’t be a problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:03, May 28, 2019 (UTC))
Super Saiyan (Berserk)
Why is "Super Saiyan (Berserk)" more accurate than "Super Saiyan 2 (Berserk)"? From what I can tell the Japanese name is "Super Saiyan Out of Control" so the title is conjectural, yeah? Wouldn't it then make significantly more sense to have the title indicate it's a berserk version of SSJ2? Because it's kind of confusing the way it is. BlackDragon 01:08, May 29, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah it is but according to Neff and a few sources he got from Dragon Ball Heroes, it is called Super Saiyan (Berserk) and I believe Dragon Ball Heroes call it that even though it is technically Super Saiyan 2 but don’t quote me on this as I’m not a 100 percent sure so the person you should be really asking is Neffyarious. Because adding Super Saiyan 2 berserk is like adding an unofficial name and this wiki is strict on how certain articles should be named. And there’s no indication whatsoever that they’re using an unofficial so we should leave it how it is.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:15, May 29, 2019 (UTC))
A good example would be an article like Legendary Super Saiyan 2 which is using an unofficial name as the real name of the form is unknown. But since Super Saiyan (Berserk) is an official name compared to Super Saiyan 2 (Berserk) which was a name made up by you, the Super Saiyan (Berserk) is more preferred since it’s an official name even though it may oppose the fact we’re calling it Super Saiyan (Berserk) even when we know it is Super Saiyan 2 as names of people, forms, and techniques that are named in Video games, manga, anime or any Dragon Ball official source is more preferred compared to unofficial names such as made up names unless the name of the attack, person, technique or forms are unknown. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:26, May 29, 2019 (UTC))
But my question is, why would Dragon Ball Heroes not be using "超サイヤ人 暴走 (Super Saiyan Out of Control)? I can't see it for some reason using an English name like "Super Saiyan (Berserk)", which seems just as unofficial as LSSJ2 to me. Especially given it's a Japan only game. And it's not like I just "made the name up", it's indicating it's a berserk version of the SSJ2 form (which is stated in the article), as the current one indicates it's a berserk version of the SSJ form, which is false.
If official names are preferred (which I do know, given I've been here for 8 years) then why is it not titled "Super Saiyan Out of Control" for example? BlackDragon 01:39, May 29, 2019 (UTC)
I know that the name you provided indicates that it is a berserk version of Super Saiyan 2, but I looked it through myself and i’m actually finding English translations in the video game and if you look at this video  to 1:55, Dragon Ball Heroes literally names it Super Saiyan (Berserk) for the English version. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:52, May 29, 2019 (UTC))
Ah, it's from the Nintendo Switch game Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission. Alright then, I thought you were talking about the arcade game (which is only in Japanese). I was just looking for clarification, as to me it looked like the name was unofficial (as the last I checked, it was "Super Saiyan: Berserk" so I thought it was just a slight renaming and still had no official English name and therefore I was renaming it to something more accurate. Well, there's nothing we can do now. I guess the people that translated the game were unaware it was actually SSJ2, I guess lol. BlackDragon 02:32, May 29, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah you’re right. Sorry for confusion because I thought Dragon Ball Heroes pertained to all the games and I wasn’t being that specific. But isn’t the arcade game of Dragon Ball Heroes the same with the ones gotten from the DS or Switch or somewhat the same? The only Dragon Ball game I play most regularly would be Xenoverse 2 but even so i’m Not that active in it and i’m Really not that much of an expert when it comes to video games especially me not having the popular Dragon Ball games like FighterZ due to FighterZ not having specific characters that I want aside from the main/important characters.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:56, May 29, 2019 (UTC))
Goku: Xeno; It isn't confirmed he actually attained Super Saiyan God(?)
Hi, before I make this edit, I want to run it by you, a source listed that Goku Xeno had stated he'd attained Super Saiyan God at some point. I have actually been trying to translate it, with some luck I have some idea what Goku's saying. Goku never stated he achieved Super Saiyan God, he said he 'borrowed power' from his allies at one point, but never said he achieved Super Saiyan God. There could be extra dialogue to this that is out there, and I am looking in the game for this specific scene, but I have run it by translators as well as someone fluent in Japanese(Not English though), and found that Goku is alluding to only having borrowed energy (example: like in the first Broly movie) and doesn't state he reached Super Saiyan God. One could say that in the games he has "God Kamehameha", but so does Master Roshi. TheCreepy904 (talk) 12:23, June 6, 2019 (UTC)
I guess because he went through the ritual instead of training that he actually borrowed the power instead of achieving it through training as I do remember him saying that he solely gained the form through borrowing the strength of other Saiyans in one episode in Super and did admit that all of his Super Saiyan God powers are not purely his unlike Vegeta who trained and achieved the form through training his butt off making his SSG in addition to his Blue purely his own power and not the strength of anyone else. So Vegeta achieved the form through training while Goku solely borrowed the power but able to use and control its power continuously unlike when he first used it so I guess that should be pointed out there. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:45, June 6, 2019 (UTC))
Ah my bad. I didn't really read it carefully but yeah if Goku Xeno was able to borrow the power of Super Saiyan God doesn't that mean he more than likely transformed into the form given that he has used the power at some point? Because I mean one way to achieve Super Saiyan God is borrowing the power of at least 5 Saiyans transferred into one Saiyan correct me if I’m wrong. Because if he borrowed the power it is more than likely he went through the ritual to become a Super Saiyan God and it would be more than likely he would have to transform in the process of the ritual to know if the power got within him or not given that Super Saiyan God is a transformation. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 08:20, June 7, 2019 (UTC))
I don't think you understand what I'm saying, Goku Xeno never stated to have borrowed power from Saiyans in particular, I searched for help and found this:
ああ→it depends yes, oh ...etc
あん時の→at that time
みんなの力借りたオラ→I borrowed everyone’s power
自力で鍛え上げたオラ→I trained by my self
Yeah the text seems to be a bit unclear and doesn't really specify on whether he used the form or not. But I feel you should tell Neffyarious about this as he probably knows a lot more about Dragon Ball Heroes than I do and quite honestly I’m not really caught up with any Dragon Ball Heroes material. But if you feel the need to edit that and point that out, please do so. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:16, June 7, 2019 (UTC))
On Kanzenshuu forums, it was debunked. He was saying "the me who borrowed power" as in he was not referring to himself. Xeno Goku never went Super Saiyan God himself, and he does not have God Ki at all. FlatZone (talk) 23:46, June 7, 2019 (UTC)
Oh really is that so? Then we should probably remove the Super Saiyan God section from Xeno Goku's page but tell Neffyarious about this and see what he says. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:55, June 7, 2019 (UTC))
Can I put images of characters on their Wikipedia?
But when I put pictures of Vegeta in Dragon Ball Heroes because they were only two images so I wanted to be more picture
But after a few days, there were again two pictures as before
Whoever I did not even take pictures —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!
I removed the pictures from the gallery because they had bad naming as images with bad names are constantly requested for deletion as they go against the wiki's policy of image naming though if they are good enough they might be able to stay as the admins rarely delete the photos that are either useless or have useless naming. I even sent you a message on your talk page regarding those images and why I removed them. If you're thinking about re-uploading them, please upload them with good image naming or else I might request them for deletion and you're more than allowed to add the images to the gallery just make sure your images are well named. The pictures don't need to go to the article page since we have a separate page of adding more images which is the gallery page of any articles you are uploading images to. I was even planning on re-uploading the images with better naming. I hope everything was clear to you and you understand why I removed them. If you have anymore questions or help, please reply back. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 10:33, June 7, 2019 (UTC))
SSJ Shallot Image
The image did not confine to good naming so it had to be temporarily be removed. If you like you may reupload the image or I may reupload the same image for you but with better naming so please upload images with proper names and be sure to look at the sites rules and policy especially on images. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:47, June 7, 2019 (UTC))
I'm gonna put the old ones in the gallery insteand okay is that fine to you?
I will reupload some of the old ones because some of them have bad naming and I will put them into the gallery. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:49, June 7, 2019 (UTC))
No problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:52, June 7, 2019 (UTC))
Hello. While I appreciate your contributiions to this wiki. You are editing at a very fast pace recently and is making it kind of difficult to see what other users are doing and activiites going on as well here. Therefore I would like to ask you to slow down and edit less often so as to give a breather and other users a chance to be seen as well. Thank you. 0551E80Y (talk) 02:42, June 9, 2019 (UTC)
Okay no problem. Sorry about that. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:44, June 9, 2019 (UTC))
Im confused now
The Ki is already mentioned to come from Super Saiyan God so no need to add it as godly Ki. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:55, June 13, 2019 (UTC))
Yes it does. Follow wiki policies on image naming and it won't be a problem. Images should be named properly so the wikia acg would be able to know where these images belong to. Indeed, this wiki has to be more strict with images because users constantly upload images with poor file names not knowing it is against the rules to do so and even upload unnecessary duplicate images. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:15, June 21, 2019 (UTC))
I will but refrain from edit warring on articles. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:25, June 21, 2019 (UTC))
Okay, I will not delete any more pictures anymore
But I'll just add pictures
Okay (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:17, June 23, 2019 (UTC))
These images you upload are not tagged. You should tag them with the fair use template so it can be signified that they are copyrighted images. I'm not saying you can’t upload them but please tag them so it can save me all the work of tagging them for you. And also please upload images with less watermarks and try to make the images more name specific without saying Vegeta or Goku all the time. Like add a description or specify where they belong to without having the images just say the character names all the time. Don’t misinterpret what I say by saying you can’t upload images with just a character’s name but i’m saying you should try not to do it That often. Be sure to sign your posts. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:26, June 27, 2019 (UTC))
Wow! I never even knew i was blocked in the first place until i got the email. I'm done here--Nikon23 23:21, June 27, 2019 (UTC)
Ignore that message. i have no idea why another user's talk page popped up in my email. I got confuse and thought i was the one blocked --Nikon23 23:27, June 27, 2019 (UTC)
It's probably because you followed that talk page. Try unfollowing it. You will receive any email notification of a page that you are following that has recently been changed or edited on unless you disabled getting email from any fandom wiki you have been on. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:34, June 27, 2019 (UTC))
And how can I do it if there is Goku or someone else on the picture?
To post a link to this license later on this license or what I already do not know is not what the license is
And I do not know how to put it in the picture
If you understood me now, what did I say? —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!
You have two go through some license templates we already have in this wiki and whatever licensing your pictures fall under must be tagged with that license by simply editing the picture you uploaded and adding it there. Here are a list of some license templates that I know or found.
(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 12:49, June 28, 2019 (UTC))
Go to the edit section of the photos you upload and simply at the template. Usually the fair use templates are used when licensing pictures but there are other templates as well that can be used for those reasons. Because the photos you upload with the Dragon Ball screenshots from films don't belong to this wiki but whoever produced the Dragon Ball media or film that is being distributed as a photo in this wikia, you should always license these photos so this wiki won't be hit with copyright infringement claims and let others know that the owners of the said media allowed us to distribute these photos of their works. That is what the owners of this franchise authorized us to do so any photo of their works should always be tagged with their respective licenses. This is listed in our rules that photos should be licensed as soon as they are uploaded because we don’t want to advertise something that is possibly used for copyright infringement purposes. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:50, June 28, 2019 (UTC))
Yes you have to do this as it is part of our rules. Whoever is first to upload an image must tag them with their license. Be sure to read up on the rules, standards and manual of style. I will help you tag them but some of the pictures you uploaded have watermarks which is not authorized as they are advertising something other than Dragon Ball so i May have to re tag them as candidates for deletion since I didn’t know that was against the rules. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:25, June 28, 2019 (UTC))
Okay, mister editer person, you're clearly not going to change one small thing without reason, so here: I literally only sighned on an account to correct this one thing because it bothered me so much. Sure, "It" can be used to describe people, but it is almost always in a derogatory or insulting manner. Using "it" to describe anyone is incredibly insensitve, and I thought that would be obvious. That is why 'they' is usually used as a third person pronoun to refer to someone of indeterminate gender, so that you aren't dehumanizing them. If you don't want to change one minor thing to avoid potential conflict, then fine, I couldn't care less. I just thought that I can help make a minor correction to an overall fine wiki.