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Archive 1: March 12, 2018 - March 18, 2019

Another chance

Dragon has been banned for a couple months. That was not an easy decision to make, it's been something I've tried putting off doing for longer than I should have. It will make some things more difficult but if it's going to come to the point where we're going to lose other members over it (of which we already lost one) then I have to do something.

Hopefully that will cause you to reconsider leaving. I didn't ban him specifically because of you but because other users, especially new users need to feel like they can breathe and make contributions freely without a struggle.Bullza (talk) 03:08, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

What I don't understand is that he hasn't been fully blocked yet. I understand that he's a major contributor, but there has to be a line.Rogeta234 (talk) 03:25, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

Well it's not that he does anything malicious nor does it go out of his way to cause these issues. I get where he's coming from so he can't be banned permanently as though he were some vandal or spammer, he just needs to give other people a chance to meditate freely even if there contributions aren't quite perfect.Bullza (talk) 04:00, March 27, 2019 (UTC)
I never said he was a bad person, I just feel like he should give other users a chance to showcase their knowledge about the Dragon Ball franchise because I do understand where he’s coming from as I mainly know he’s only doing this just to keep the wiki safe from vandalism and keeping wrong information out but sometimes he can edit war with other users over the littlest things and I think his edit warring comes from the mere fact he’s just trying to protect this wiki and I feel users like him should be around to ensure that this wiki is safe because seeing the amount of contributions he has, I know for sure that he knows Dragon Ball a lot better than I do and it just wouldn’t make sense for someone like him not to be around. Though the only thing he needs to do is stop edit warring with other users and just give them a chance without removing their edits because it shows that you can work with other users even if you don’t particularly agree with them so this wiki doesn’t have to be like it’s a competition. I’m just as guilty as he is because I do edit war as well and I don’t condone anyone to edit war because it doesn’t set a good example to other users. Please unblock him because we really do need him because with me having to focus on other things more important sometimes I don’t have time to check up on the wiki and I know DragonEmeperor is a regular user in this site so he knows if articles are vandalized or not. So please let him in again because we really have to talk to each other as fellow users of this site and understand one another well so this doesn’t happen again. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:22, March 27, 2019 (UTC))

Kai Category

I thought that category was only used for the series itself since it still technically fall under DBZ and it was never used for anything else. ShadowSilverx4 (talk) 06:52, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

I see where you’re coming from but since Kai has its own separate stuff especially in this wiki, it’s best just to list it even though it’s a remastered version of DBZ because Kai is still its own product essentially and still related to dragon ball media and the franchise so it’s best to list it as a Sony product since products related to Kai have been released in blu Ray and Sony fits under that category for Dragon Ball z kai. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 07:00, March 28, 2019 (UTC))
Alright. ShadowSilverx4 (talk) 07:34, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

Autonomous Ultra Instinct

Sorry I accidentally removved transformation in the autonomous ultra instinct. i thought it was vandalised but then I checked history. Sorry! Please forgive me!InfinityDestroyer (talk) 04:06, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

No problem. You’re good. At least you changed it back so now the problem is fixed. And thanks for acting based on possible vandalism even though the page wasn’t vandalized. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 04:17, May 21, 2019 (UTC))

Don't assume

I tried to discuss the edits with the one that is undo my edits, they won't answer. Call the admins if you like, I'm sick of not getting a response from them.

Explain to me where it was said that SSJR was SSGSS? I remember seeing that in the anime it was Black's Super Saiyan 1, because they misunderstood what Akira Toriyama gave them.

TheCreepy904 (talk) 05:32, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

There’s actually a source that states Super Saiyan Rosé to be Black’s version of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. [1](Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:53, May 21, 2019 (UTC))

Just like Blue, Rose is a mixture of godly power with Super Saiyan. Blue is attained when a Saiyan mixes their Super Saiyan God power with the regular Super Saiyan. Rose is attained when a Saiyan, prior to reaching Super Saiyan God, had already had natural godly power or Ki due to prior status as a god and mixes that power with their regular Super Saiyan form turning them to Rose. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:10, May 21, 2019 (UTC))

here is the translated source, which this is the V-Jump Source I mentioned in the other talk page. It is then proven that Goku Black has the normal SS form, and then his own SSGSS form which is Rose. FlatZone (talk) 06:01, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

Good source, it might make things more clearer. I was actually trying to find a translated version. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:10, May 21, 2019 (UTC))


I didn't ask for your input and i wasn't talking to you in the first place. It's not even your talk page. --Nikon23 11:32, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

As a user of this wiki, I’m free to talk in any talk page regardless if it’s my talk page or not. And I noticed you started calling Bullza rude and offensive for simply trying to explain why we changed certain characters names back to the original names in the Japanese broadcast. It is not your place to call someone rude or offensive for simply trying to explain something to you especially when I know that Bullza is not rude person and has actually helped me around this wiki especially if I have conflicts with other users. Bullza is a well respected user especially by me and I will speak out for him if I know Bullza didn’t do anything wrong against you or any other user as Bullza is there to help. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 11:40, May 21, 2019 (UTC))

Once again...I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU, SO MIND YOUR BUSINESS. I CAN ASSUME WHATEVER I WANT. What is your problem? --Nikon23 12:01, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

I don't care or did i ask for a explanation. I been here way longer than you. So once again i wasn't tqliking to you. Go find some attention from someone who cares --Nikon23 12:04, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

No one has a problem here except you. You’re the one calling Bullza rude, for who knows what. And coming to my talk page bringing in some nonsense that shouldn’t really be necessary. And yeah I commented on why you called Bullza rude because based on the exchange you two made Bullza wasn’t being rude at all. And if you did look at the explanation on the name changes then why are you asking Bullza about the name changes? Look, it is never your place to call someone rude especially when they’re trying to explain something to you and I really appreciate it if you don’t do it as this can lead to a situation such as this one that we’re in right now. I never meant for the comment to bring any ill will and it really doesn’t matter if I comment on something even I wasn’t initially apart of it as it could’ve been a way for me to explain to you instead of Bullza and besides it wasn’t like I was being in any way shape or form disrespectful to you I only commented on Bullza not being rude when he was clearly not being rude so I would really appreciate for this feud to end. It’s not the place for all this bickering. (Sosuagwu17 (talk))

For the last time, i wasn't talking to you and I don't care what you have to say. Are You his bodyguard?! I'm not responding to this anymore. You're whining is pathetic at this point. Attention seeker are always trying to make something out of nothing. How about you get off the computer and go outside. I'm going to go do what grown ups do and go to work. Ok champ 😒

There is no fued so i would appreciate if you once again mind your business. Trying to get brownie points with administration 🤣--Nikon23 13:07, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah don’t respond as this shouldn’t have been brought up in the first place and is meaningless. You should be the one to grow up for whining over something so little just for me simply making a comment on the exchange and you making a huge fuss about it. This is not needed in my talk page or in this wiki in general especially when someone is trying to help you and you’re calling him rude and offensive for no reason. I’m done with this and this shouldn’t have even been brought. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:18, May 21, 2019 (UTC))

Blah! Blah! Blah! Take your own advice first and stop acting like a attention seeker already. They're not going to make you a administrator 🤣🤣--Nikon23 13:23, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

And I didn't ask for help --Nikon23 13:24, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

And if he had a problem with what i said, then he would of said something, not you.

This is pointless and you being here in my talk page with this nonsense is pointless, so you know what i’m not even going to respond anymore. I tried to have this senseless bickering stop but it goes in one ear and comes out the other so you know what. I’m not even going to respond anymore. End of conversation. And you can quit arguing as this won’t take us anywhere and it is best to act like this never happened and really work with each other as fellow editors of this wiki. If you were upset for me butting in your conversation, then i’m sorry. And I never meant for this to go to this lengths. I hope you can be able to forgive me for the trouble I caused you even though it wasn’t my intention as I want to ensure I maintain a good relationship with other users of this wiki so I apologize for any of your ill feelings toward me and I hope we can reconcile as fellow editors. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:35, May 21, 2019 (UTC))

I told you to leave me alone. This is a entire new day and you keep bring up yesterday. You are really pathetic at this point😒--Nikon23 22:44, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

what did i do? —This unsigned comment was made by Brunchie (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Nothing, this was a matter between me and Nikon23 and it’s settled. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:55, May 26, 2019 (UTC))


sorry for vandalizing

stop :( YOU ARE OLDER THAN MEIEIEIEEEEEEE ;( NAANNABAIUDANaannabaiuda (talk) 11:37, May 27, 2019 (UTC)


naannabaiudaNaannabaiuda (talk) 11:39, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

I’m glad to hear that you’re sorry. But please don’t vandalize pages as that can get you blocked from this wiki. This wiki is meant for people to contribute not vandalize. Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:20, May 27, 2019 (UTC))

Image Policy

It doesn't matter if it is used for personal pages or not the use of gif images is not approved on this wiki. We try to keep this wiki free of clutter even if it is from a scene in the series it must have a proper place in the wiki, user pages do not count.--Tuxedo12 (talk) 01:46, May 28, 2019 (UTC)

No where in the rules that stated that gifs can’t be used in userpages. It only said that it can’t be posted or used in main articles. I know Gifs are a very strict thing in this wiki but when it is in a personal userpage then that shouldn’t be a problem. It never said that adding gifs to userpages doesn’t count but adding fanart to userpages definitely doesn’t count as stated by the rules but did say fanart is permitted unless to describe oneself or use it as your profile picture. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:51, May 28, 2019 (UTC))

None of my gifs are in articles so that should be good? (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:57, May 28, 2019 (UTC))

And plus even if the pictures I uploaded are not in proper pages or articles I still am able to upload pictures in my userpage. Other users besides myself have done this even admins for that matter so this shouldn’t be a problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:03, May 28, 2019 (UTC))

Super Saiyan (Berserk)

Why is "Super Saiyan (Berserk)" more accurate than "Super Saiyan 2 (Berserk)"? From what I can tell the Japanese name is "Super Saiyan Out of Control" so the title is conjectural, yeah? Wouldn't it then make significantly more sense to have the title indicate it's a berserk version of SSJ2? Because it's kind of confusing the way it is. BlackDragon 01:08, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah it is but according to Neff and a few sources he got from Dragon Ball Heroes, it is called Super Saiyan (Berserk) and I believe Dragon Ball Heroes call it that even though it is technically Super Saiyan 2 but don’t quote me on this as I’m not a 100 percent sure so the person you should be really asking is Neffyarious. Because adding Super Saiyan 2 berserk is like adding an unofficial name and this wiki is strict on how certain articles should be named. And there’s no indication whatsoever that they’re using an unofficial so we should leave it how it is.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:15, May 29, 2019 (UTC))

Hmm, alright. I might ask him later (or rather on the article talk page). Btw, you missed fixing the double redirect, lol. BlackDragon 01:23, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

A good example would be an article like Legendary Super Saiyan 2 which is using an unofficial name as the real name of the form is unknown. But since Super Saiyan (Berserk) is an official name compared to Super Saiyan 2 (Berserk) which was a name made up by you, the Super Saiyan (Berserk) is more preferred since it’s an official name even though it may oppose the fact we’re calling it Super Saiyan (Berserk) even when we know it is Super Saiyan 2 as names of people, forms, and techniques that are named in Video games, manga, anime or any Dragon Ball official source is more preferred compared to unofficial names such as made up names unless the name of the attack, person, technique or forms are unknown. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:26, May 29, 2019 (UTC))

But my question is, why would Dragon Ball Heroes not be using "超サイヤ人 暴走 (Super Saiyan Out of Control)? I can't see it for some reason using an English name like "Super Saiyan (Berserk)", which seems just as unofficial as LSSJ2 to me. Especially given it's a Japan only game. And it's not like I just "made the name up", it's indicating it's a berserk version of the SSJ2 form (which is stated in the article), as the current one indicates it's a berserk version of the SSJ form, which is false.

If official names are preferred (which I do know, given I've been here for 8 years) then why is it not titled "Super Saiyan Out of Control" for example? BlackDragon 01:39, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

I know that the name you provided indicates that it is a berserk version of Super Saiyan 2, but I looked it through myself and i’m actually finding English translations in the video game and if you look at this video [2] to 1:55, Dragon Ball Heroes literally names it Super Saiyan (Berserk) for the English version. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:52, May 29, 2019 (UTC))

Ah, it's from the Nintendo Switch game Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission. Alright then, I thought you were talking about the arcade game (which is only in Japanese). I was just looking for clarification, as to me it looked like the name was unofficial (as the last I checked, it was "Super Saiyan: Berserk" so I thought it was just a slight renaming and still had no official English name and therefore I was renaming it to something more accurate. Well, there's nothing we can do now. I guess the people that translated the game were unaware it was actually SSJ2, I guess lol. BlackDragon 02:32, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah you’re right. Sorry for confusion because I thought Dragon Ball Heroes pertained to all the games and I wasn’t being that specific. But isn’t the arcade game of Dragon Ball Heroes the same with the ones gotten from the DS or Switch or somewhat the same? The only Dragon Ball game I play most regularly would be Xenoverse 2 but even so i’m Not that active in it and i’m Really not that much of an expert when it comes to video games especially me not having the popular Dragon Ball games like FighterZ due to FighterZ not having specific characters that I want aside from the main/important characters.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:56, May 29, 2019 (UTC))

Goku: Xeno; It isn't confirmed he actually attained Super Saiyan God(?)

Hi, before I make this edit, I want to run it by you, a source listed that Goku Xeno had stated he'd attained Super Saiyan God at some point. I have actually been trying to translate it, with some luck I have some idea what Goku's saying. Goku never stated he achieved Super Saiyan God, he said he 'borrowed power' from his allies at one point, but never said he achieved Super Saiyan God. There could be extra dialogue to this that is out there, and I am looking in the game for this specific scene, but I have run it by translators as well as someone fluent in Japanese(Not English though), and found that Goku is alluding to only having borrowed energy (example: like in the first Broly movie) and doesn't state he reached Super Saiyan God. One could say that in the games he has "God Kamehameha", but so does Master Roshi. TheCreepy904 (talk) 12:23, June 6, 2019 (UTC)

I guess because he went through the ritual instead of training that he actually borrowed the power instead of achieving it through training as I do remember him saying that he solely gained the form through borrowing the strength of other Saiyans in one episode in Super and did admit that all of his Super Saiyan God powers are not purely his unlike Vegeta who trained and achieved the form through training his butt off making his SSG in addition to his Blue purely his own power and not the strength of anyone else. So Vegeta achieved the form through training while Goku solely borrowed the power but able to use and control its power continuously unlike when he first used it so I guess that should be pointed out there. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:45, June 6, 2019 (UTC))

Your talking about Super Goku though, not Xeno Goku. As far as translations go, I don't think Xeno Goku did transform into a God. We need a translator. TheCreepy904 (talk) 07:57, June 7, 2019 (UTC)

Ah my bad. I didn't really read it carefully but yeah if Goku Xeno was able to borrow the power of Super Saiyan God doesn't that mean he more than likely transformed into the form given that he has used the power at some point? Because I mean one way to achieve Super Saiyan God is borrowing the power of at least 5 Saiyans transferred into one Saiyan correct me if I’m wrong. Because if he borrowed the power it is more than likely he went through the ritual to become a Super Saiyan God and it would be more than likely he would have to transform in the process of the ritual to know if the power got within him or not given that Super Saiyan God is a transformation. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 08:20, June 7, 2019 (UTC))

I don't think you understand what I'm saying, Goku Xeno never stated to have borrowed power from Saiyans in particular, I searched for help and found this:

ああ→it depends yes, oh ...etc
あん時の→at that time
みんなの力借りたオラ→I borrowed everyone’s power
自力で鍛え上げたオラ→I trained by my self

As I said, we need more context, but for now I'm going to edit the page to say that it's unclear whether he achieved SSJG or not. TheCreepy904 (talk) 22:57, June 7, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah the text seems to be a bit unclear and doesn't really specify on whether he used the form or not. But I feel you should tell Neffyarious about this as he probably knows a lot more about Dragon Ball Heroes than I do and quite honestly I’m not really caught up with any Dragon Ball Heroes material. But if you feel the need to edit that and point that out, please do so. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:16, June 7, 2019 (UTC))

On Kanzenshuu forums, it was debunked. He was saying "the me who borrowed power" as in he was not referring to himself. Xeno Goku never went Super Saiyan God himself, and he does not have God Ki at all. FlatZone (talk) 23:46, June 7, 2019 (UTC)

Oh really is that so? Then we should probably remove the Super Saiyan God section from Xeno Goku's page but tell Neffyarious about this and see what he says. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:55, June 7, 2019 (UTC))

Flat, could you link the thread where it was debunked? Thanks. TheCreepy904 (talk) 08:17, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


Can I put images of characters on their Wikipedia?
But when I put pictures of Vegeta in Dragon Ball Heroes because they were only two images so I wanted to be more picture
But after a few days, there were again two pictures as before
Whoever I did not even take pictures —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I removed the pictures from the gallery because they had bad naming as images with bad names are constantly requested for deletion as they go against the wiki's policy of image naming though if they are good enough they might be able to stay as the admins rarely delete the photos that are either useless or have useless naming. I even sent you a message on your talk page regarding those images and why I removed them. If you're thinking about re-uploading them, please upload them with good image naming or else I might request them for deletion and you're more than allowed to add the images to the gallery just make sure your images are well named. The pictures don't need to go to the article page since we have a separate page of adding more images which is the gallery page of any articles you are uploading images to. I was even planning on re-uploading the images with better naming. I hope everything was clear to you and you understand why I removed them. If you have anymore questions or help, please reply back. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 10:33, June 7, 2019 (UTC))

SSJ Shallot Image 

Hello can you please keep the ssj shallot image in From and Transformation section please?  Beyblade234 (talk) 15:28, June 7, 2019 (UTC)Beyblade234

The image did not confine to good naming so it had to be temporarily be removed. If you like you may reupload the image or I may reupload the same image for you but with better naming so please upload images with proper names and be sure to look at the sites rules and policy especially on images. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:47, June 7, 2019 (UTC))

I'm gonna put the old ones in the gallery insteand okay is that fine to you?

BachEric1461 (talk) 22:47, June 7, 2019 (UTC)BachEric1461

I will reupload some of the old ones because some of them have bad naming and I will put them into the gallery. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:49, June 7, 2019 (UTC))

Okay Thanks youBachEric1461 (talk) 22:52, June 7, 2019 (UTC)BachEric1461

No problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:52, June 7, 2019 (UTC))

Mass Editing

Hello. While I appreciate your contributiions to this wiki. You are editing at a very fast pace recently and is making it kind of difficult to see what other users are doing  and activiites going on as well here. Therefore I would like to ask you to slow down and edit less often so as to give a breather and other users a chance to be seen as well. Thank you. 0551E80Y (talk) 02:42, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

Okay no problem. Sorry about that. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:44, June 9, 2019 (UTC))

Im confused now

So the Blue form doesnt have the godly ki of Super Saiyan God? Just a crimson ki?—This unsigned comment was made by SSGDaniel3 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

The Ki is already mentioned to come from Super Saiyan God so no need to add it as godly Ki. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:55, June 13, 2019 (UTC))

My bad —This unsigned comment was made by SSGDaniel3 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

File name

Does file name matter to you? BachEric1461 (talk) 05:11, June 21, 2019 (UTC)Beyblade234

Yes it does. Follow wiki policies on image naming and it won't be a problem. Images should be named properly so the wikia acg would be able to know where these images belong to. Indeed, this wiki has to be more strict with images because users constantly upload images with poor file names not knowing it is against the rules to do so and even upload unnecessary duplicate images. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:15, June 21, 2019 (UTC))

Oh then you change the name for me? BachEric1461 (talk) 05:17, June 21, 2019 (UTC)Beyblade234

I will but refrain from edit warring on articles. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:25, June 21, 2019 (UTC))


Okay, I will not delete any more pictures anymore
But I'll just add pictures


Okay (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:17, June 23, 2019 (UTC))

And what do I do with these pictures?
Excuse me, but I do not understand what you mean —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

But how can I then call that picture?
I mean, what do I need to write for this image? —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

These images you upload are not tagged. You should tag them with the fair use template so it can be signified that they are copyrighted images. I'm not saying you can’t upload them but please tag them so it can save me all the work of tagging them for you. And also please upload images with less watermarks and try to make the images more name specific without saying Vegeta or Goku all the time. Like add a description or specify where they belong to without having the images just say the character names all the time. Don’t misinterpret what I say by saying you can’t upload images with just a character’s name but i’m saying you should try not to do it That often. Be sure to sign your posts. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:26, June 27, 2019 (UTC))


Wow! I never even knew i was blocked in the first place until i got the email. I'm done here--Nikon23 23:21, June 27, 2019 (UTC)

Ignore that message. i have no idea why another user's talk page popped up in my email. I got confuse and thought i was the one blocked --Nikon23 23:27, June 27, 2019 (UTC)

It's probably because you followed that talk page. Try unfollowing it. You will receive any email notification of a page that you are following that has recently been changed or edited on unless you disabled getting email from any fandom wiki you have been on. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:34, June 27, 2019 (UTC))


And how can I do it if there is Goku or someone else on the picture?
To post a link to this license later on this license or what I already do not know is not what the license is
And I do not know how to put it in the picture
If you understood me now, what did I say? —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

You have two go through some license templates we already have in this wiki and whatever licensing your pictures fall under must be tagged with that license by simply editing the picture you uploaded and adding it there. Here are a list of some license templates that I know or found.

(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 12:49, June 28, 2019 (UTC))

And what now?
How do I know how to put that license? —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Go to the edit section of the photos you upload and simply at the template. Usually the fair use templates are used when licensing pictures but there are other templates as well that can be used for those reasons. Because the photos you upload with the Dragon Ball screenshots from films don't belong to this wiki but whoever produced the Dragon Ball media or film that is being distributed as a photo in this wikia, you should always license these photos so this wiki won't be hit with copyright infringement claims and let others know that the owners of the said media allowed us to distribute these photos of their works. That is what the owners of this franchise authorized us to do so any photo of their works should always be tagged with their respective licenses. This is listed in our rules that photos should be licensed as soon as they are uploaded because we don’t want to advertise something that is possibly used for copyright infringement purposes. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:50, June 28, 2019 (UTC))

Do I have to do this?
Or can someone do it for me?
I do not know how to get into this Wiki —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Yes you have to do this as it is part of our rules. Whoever is first to upload an image must tag them with their license. Be sure to read up on the rules, standards and manual of style. I will help you tag them but some of the pictures you uploaded have watermarks which is not authorized as they are advertising something other than Dragon Ball so i May have to re tag them as candidates for deletion since I didn’t know that was against the rules. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:25, June 28, 2019 (UTC))


Okay, mister editor person, you're clearly not going to change one small thing without reason, so here: I literally only signed on an account to correct this one thing because it bothered me so much. Sure, "It" can be used to describe people, but it is almost always in a derogatory or insulting manner. Using "it" to describe anyone is incredibly insensitive, and I thought that would be obvious. That is why 'they' is usually used as a third person pronoun to refer to someone of indeterminate gender, so that you aren't dehumanizing them. If you don't want to change one minor thing to avoid potential conflict, then fine, I couldn't care less. I just thought that I can help make a minor correction to an overall fine wiki. —This unsigned comment was made by LemourQueen (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Yeah “it” can be certainly used in an insulting way depending on how it is used. If you are referring to a human being as “it” rather than “he/she” that can make sense for a person to find disrespectful but in this case “it” is referring to a being of an indeterminate sex that doesn't exactly happen to be a human or possessing not much of human qualities in which case “it” would be an okay word to use especially for Kamioren being an example of this. Using “they” is generally incorrect to refer to one person or thing since it was made to be a plural pronoun and refer to more than one thing. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:31, July 13, 2019 (UTC))

Thank you!!

For adding the copyright thing to the Future Warrior Heroes Flute image, that completely flew from my brain. Thank you for adding it, I greatly appreciate it!

Pour me a glass, bub. (talk) 16:01, July 19, 2019 (UTC) 

No problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:33, July 19, 2019 (UTC))

King Vegeta and Bardock

There are three versions of King Vegeta and Bardock that appear in the anime, manga and movie. and the movie version is the offical version. stop undoing my edits. it's not just anime and managa. i seen other pages with more than just anime and manga Nikon23 04:12, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

They are not 3 different versions, the story of them or specifically their backstories just happened to be told differently in separate continuations of the story. And if there were different versions of them, they most likely would have separate articles. Based on the formatting of the character infobox, character pictures usually have there photo appearances in both the anime and manga, so I am going based on that. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:09, July 24, 2019 (UTC))


Talk:King Vegeta

Nikon23 05:16, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

Are you really doing this again?

So because in the dub it states that SSJR is a "God-like Saiyan" does that make it the absolute canon? No, if the guides state otherwise, the dub has no say in what is and isn't canon. The way the dub portrays Goku Black is different to how the Japanese portrays Goku Black, one of the key words being "beautiful". Goku Black is obsessed with his "beauty" of being a god, not shown near as much in the dub, don't go saying this wiki goes by the dub, because you can't, your spreading misinformation, head canon if you will. Head canon isn't canon, the dubs are not 100% faithful and can't be for obvious reasons. To stop misinformation the Japanese quotes should be used, and English quotes should be mentioned, but not the main quote. TheCreepy904 (talk) 06:46, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

First of all English quotes are used in a variety of articles and I don't see a problem with it being there. Second the quotes are almost the exact same, just said differently so the quotes shouldn't even be a problem. When there are information that happens to have an English version whether it be name of characters, techniques or quotes available they are usually changed to its English version because English material here are widely accepted here as well and information in English doesn’t necessarily mean giving out misinformation as you put it. You do understand that this is the English Dragon Ball wiki. so anything that comes out in English will likely be changed to its English version though I am not sure about the contradictory side of it regarding information presented in the English vs. Japanese version.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:56, July 28, 2019 (UTC))

It doesn't matter, if the quotes are the same you'd have no problem keeping it as what's said in the Japanese. This wiki is known for misinformation, ascended super saiyan, ultra super saiyan are not official names and shouldn't be treated as such. I am aware of other articles having english dub terms, but that doesn't concern me at the moment, there is a ton of misinformation surrounding Goku Black which is why I'm watching this article to make sure there's not another "SSJR is SSGSS in the anime" situation. 

Whether you like it or not, the english dub is not the "canon portrayal" as to say compared to the japanese, for reasons such as mouth flaps, but when it comes to Goku Black his character is quite controversal when it comes to the dub.

TheCreepy904 (talk) 11:43, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

This is an English Dragon Ball wiki, so regardless whether information given by Funimation pertaining Dragon Ball may still be contradictory, It is still something that can be included in articles stemming from quotes to names of things related to Dragon Ball. I am not saying that the English dub is always right, I just don't see a problem changing from its English version to the original version when it is not going to be a problem to the overall article. No one seems to have a problem with it except you. And I'm sure that the quote has been stayed like that in the article for a long period of time. Honestly, I don't think we should even be fighting over this because the quotes literally mean the same thing and it wouldn’t make a difference if someone changed it to the other version. But I believe due to the fact the quotes are marked from whichever episode they came which happen to have the Funimation version of their episode title mentioned in the quotes, the Funimation version of the quotes are more consistent to keep considering the episode titles are marked in its Funimation version their names when available and whenever quotes were derived from those episodes. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 12:44, July 28, 2019 (UTC))

Listen, I understand where your coming from, but Goku Black's a complex character, the way he talks, the words he uses, reflects his personality, it doesn't come out in that same manner with the dub. It shouldn't matter whether this is an english wiki, since Dragon Ball Super more newer fans have been introduced to the series via the japanese subs. If it's not that different then why do you have a problem? I may not be the only one who has a problem with this, it's only you, since your the first and only one to start these "wars" with me over these things, first being the SSJR is SSJ thing, which you also threatened to report me. The Funimation episode titles are basically one to one in Dragon Ball Super to the Japanese, not the quotes. The fact that Funimations Christopher Sabat has stated they have taken liberties with the dub and are changing things around here and there, perfect example being Black. I don't believe this is right and all it does it give off the wrong impression of the characters in this series, Dragon Ball deserves more respect than this. If this is a wiki that is really dedicated to Dragon Ball, they should keep english only elements and japanese elements seperate. If not, the wiki should be renamed to "Funimation Dragon Ball wikia". 

We aren't done with this, to prevent further conflict, I'm going to refrain from editing the page again, until we come to an agreement. I don't want to edit war with you. TheCreepy904 (talk) 13:27, July 29, 2019 (UTC)   

Same reason to talk it over as fellow users but you still continued to mess with the page even when given reason and a warning for the edit warring before a consensus so I had to report you for violating that. But if you still decide you want to complete the conversation then go on ahead. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:52, July 29, 2019 (UTC))

Move this to conversation to the SSJR talk page, this is stupid going back and forth on different pages. TheCreepy904 (talk) 02:19, July 31, 2019 (UTC)


Corrections made to the filename and type. Sorry about the earlier error, I figured it was a JPG.

LegendBerserk22 (talk) 00:09, August 3, 2019 (UTC)LegendBerserk22

No problem. And please upload them with their license type as well. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:11, August 3, 2019 (UTC))

Nikon's Talkpage

stop editng my talk page Nikon23 13:42, August 4, 2019 (UTC)

I was removing my messages from your talkpage that haven't been responded to. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:53, August 4, 2019 (UTC))

i'm tired of you always being on my page. i could of deleted myself. you always on page. are you following my page also? i'm trying to distance myslef away from you. Nikon23 14:39, August 4, 2019 (UTC)

Dude why are you always trying to start fights with me? I told you I was deleting some messages of mine that was in your talkpage that hasn't been responded to yet that is why your talkpage has been edited so why are you having a problem with it and making it a bigger problem for the two of us? Your talkpage is not the only talkpage that I have removed my messages that haven’t been responded to and in fact I have also removed my messages from Yonedge talkpage that he hasn’t responded to and I'm sure he wouldn’t have had a problem with it. Man it's just users like you that make me want to quit this wiki for good. It’s best we not talk nor interact with each other as it would do the both of us good. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:04, August 4, 2019 (UTC))



I was trying add trying to add Dr. Slump to Launches page just like Oloong's pageErik.hoary (talk) 21:41, August 15, 2019 (UTC)Erik.hoary 

Don’t worry I added the Dr. Slump icon to the infobox. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 21:48, August 15, 2019 (UTC))


Do you think Launch will return in Dragon Ball Super?Erik.hoary (talk) 01:11, August 17, 2019 (UTC)Erik.hoary

Possibly. Maybe she might make a cameo in a flashback animation in the Super anime when it comes back or actually fully appear at some point being she is a very known character despite her lack of consistent appearances in later DB series like DBZ or DB GT for example. she might also probably appear in a future short special chapter in Toyotarō's Dragon Ball Super manga if Toyotarō decides he want to add Launch into his manga or have her fully appear in Super in the manga in future arcs or the current arc though the likelihood of that is very slim in my opinion due to the focus of the arc mainly being about Moro and the Saiyans Goku and Vegeta joining up with the Galactic Patrol to stop him but either way it is still possible she could appear in Super since Super isn’t done yet due to manga still being ongoing. We just have to wait and see what happens. I'm sure she will probably appear in Super at some point though I don’t know and I can’t actually determine if she will appear in Super since there hasn’t been any official confirmation of her appearing in the Super series as of right now. It’s up to Toriyama, Toyotarō, or Toei Animation (when they bring the anime back) to decide whether she will appear in Super. I would still love to see her in Super though we just have to wait. I’m sure she will likely appear at some point in the Super series. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:29, August 17, 2019 (UTC))

Images with poor filenames

I've noticed that some are labeled for deletion, with the statement they should be re-uploaded with a better filename. Wouldn't it be more efficient to just rename any images with poor filenames? --Neffyarious (talk) 16:03, August 20, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah it would be more efficient to rename an image with a poor file name in an article immediately when I find one. Thanks for pointing that out. Though I have renamed some but there are probably more to rename that are tagged for deletion but still left on articles and it is just a lot to handle right now for the time being. Tuxedo12 might be able to help with that issue if either one of us asks him since he mainly focuses on the image area of the wiki and tags images with poor filenames and uploads a new version along with tagging the license in whenever he finds one that needs to he replaced. Probably work on changing the names of ones that I find in articles or galleries with poor file names and possibly tagged for deletion. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:00, August 20, 2019 (UTC))

Cool, I'll get on renaming images too. Make sure to change the names on the pages the images are featured on to (if you haven't already been doing so) to avoid broken file links. --Neffyarious (talk) 17:39, August 20, 2019 (UTC)

Okay I will. Also I think there is a broken file link on the fair use template for the dvd version for it that needs some fixing. I can’t edit the fair use template to fix that because admins are the only ones allowed to edit on it. If you look at it in source mode, The file says [ ["Image:Dvdiconcover.png|64px|DVD Cover"] ] . There is no image existing for that file. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 21:35, August 20, 2019 (UTC))

Could you link me the template so I could have a look at it. --Neffyarious (talk) 11:24, August 21, 2019 (UTC)

Template:Fair use, Same goes for the video game version of the fair use template. There is also a picture that is listed that doesn't exist. The file name says something like gamepad.svg but I can’t fully remember the name. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:44, August 21, 2019 (UTC))

Lack of images.

I know you were the one who made up most of the pages for the Dragon Ball Super episodes. I've gone through them in batches (as well as the other shows) to add more sections, information and make them more consistent and everything.

Well I noticed that there's a whole bunch of pages starting from Episode 79 up to about Episode 105 with the odd exceptions that have next to no images posted for them at all. There's nothing in the summary and nothing in the gallery. It's fine after that point but for that batch there's nothing.

Where are they? Did they not get uploaded? Were they uploaded and just weren't added to the page or what? They look very out of place and underworked without the images like practically every other episode page so I was wondering if you knew were there were seeing as you edited these pages and keep tabs on the images so they could be added on there.Bullza (talk) 16:05, August 21, 2019 (UTC)

No, I have no idea. I just went to the episodes from 79-131 and noticed there were missing sections so I added them along with later putting stubs on those sections so anyone who wants to work on those sections can put in more information to make it more consistent like the episodes listed before episode 79 that have those sections. It seems there were rarely any images there by the time I started editing those pages with the exception of the titlecards which I am consistently updating and adding the English titlecard with the japanese in their respective episodes whenever the English version comes out in Toonani along with renaming the episodes to its Funimation version. I'm working on filling up the character, locations, techniques and transformations sections for those episodes as I've done a few. The Spanish Dragon Ball wiki seems to have completed that so I might go there for information on those sections that needs some filling up to do and add them once I get the information over there with the addition of removing or fixing any errors in the list since there are a few errors but still amount of information that can be presented. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:41, August 21, 2019 (UTC))

Yo son goku and his friends return English Dub?

Does Yo son goku and his friends return have a English Dub?Erik.hoary (talk) 03:33, August 29, 2019 (UTC)Erik.hoary 

No. Though there is a fan dub available for it on youtube or possibly dailymotion. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 03:37, August 29, 2019 (UTC))

Fuwa's Attendant

Earlier, I asked in the talk section of Fuwa's Attendant, was is it appropriate to place Kibito as the counterpart to Fuwa's attendant and OMEGA48 said why not. That's why I added the counterparts since they carry out the same role except in different universes KeybladeNoctis (talk) 00:46, September 13, 2019 (UTC)

Well I guess they can probably be listed as counterparts since they share the same position and are from both Universe 6 and 7 respectively which are twin universes though I feel that that section in the character infobox is only meant for duplicates of a certain character eg. alternate timeline counterpart, clones, etc. or characters that share very similar traits with the addition of sharing the same or very similar job titles but from different places or universe like Frost to Frieza for example or King Sadala to King Vegeta though don't take my word for it as I don't know if it applies to people that work in the same position but two people working in the same position doesn’t necessarily make them counterparts and I feel they should have similar traits in addition to that I just mentioned to make them be considered as counterparts that's why I undid your edit. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:11, September 13, 2019 (UTC))


I think I would license but I don't know how if you can explain it to me. —This unsigned comment was made by Jahagaavid04 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I already explained this to you on how you should do this on your talkpage but you still didn’t read it and continued to upload pictures without proper licensing, going against warning numerous of times even after being blocked twice for it. Look at your talkpage. I explained this to you. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 21:22, September 13, 2019 (UTC))

Head to the Super Saiyan Rosé Talkpage

TheCreepy904 (talk) 02:41, September 14, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah what Creepy said, he asked me to ask you to go over to the talk page so you can dispute whatever the issue was with the new contribution.Bullza (talk) 01:59, September 15, 2019 (UTC)

Oh okay. I saw his message but forgot to respond thanks for informing me about this. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 03:29, September 15, 2019 (UTC))

inaccurate information about Android 17

Hi there,

I saw that you reversed the changes I made about Android 17.

I simply deleted some inaccurate information, according to which Gokû says in the original Japanese version that he will try not to kill 17 after turning into SS Blue.

This is totally incorrect. I speak a little bit Japanese myself, and I checked with people who are totally fluent in that language, and here is what Gokû and 17 actually say:

17号「そんな変身も できるのか。」(so you can transform like that, too)

孫悟空「本当は しねえつもりだったけんどよ。」(to be honest, I didn't intend to)

17号「手を抜いていたというわけか。 ふざけたやつだ。」(so, you were holding back. You're a real jokester)

孫悟空「そういう お前も 本気じゃなかったみてえだな。」(I guess you were not serious either)

17号「フン。 続きをやるか。」 (hmpf! Do you want to continue?)

孫悟空「ここなら 森も関係ねえから 思いっ切りな。」(there's no need to worry about the forest here)

As you can see, there is absolutely no mention whatsoever of Gokû trying not to kill 17.

Look, I don't want to start an edit war, but I cannot overlook blatantly wrong information that will lead the readers to believe things which are simply not true. I just care about accuracy and indisputable facts, so I would really appreciate it if you didn't cancel this edit.

Thank you for your understanding.

Pierre.senninger.7 (talk) 23:40, September 17, 2019 (UTC)Pierre Senninger

No problem. Just explain in the edit summary when you delete information because others who don't know may think you are removing possible valid information for no reason that's why I had to revert your edits. Now I understand so I won't revert the edit anymore. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:45, September 17, 2019 (UTC))

Got it! ^_=


Turles and Gine

Outside of the royal bloodline Saiyan men don't care about family and children, and Toriyama said that Saiyan men usually don't know or care to know. Gine changed Bardock and they had Raditz and Kakarot. Turles was said to be Goku's brother and by extension Raditz brother but he was never said to be Gine's son. It is more likely Bardock had impregnanted another Saiyan woman before he started to fall for Gine, then from there he didn't know or care to know about Turles or his existence.. then Bardock fell for Gine and was changed. So saying Turles is Gine's son is entirely speculation. It should be removed from Gine's page and Turles page. FlatZone (talk) 02:01, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah true. But in that source did it ever state Turles to be Bardock's son though just for clarification. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:06, September 18, 2019 (UTC))

The source simply calls Turles Goku's older Brother. Gine was stated to have two sons. Bardock himself was never stated how many kids he sired exactly. So Gine herself only has 2 kids, Bardock had 3 apparently. FlatZone (talk) 02:07, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

Okay then I guess it can be removed. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:09, September 18, 2019 (UTC))

It won't allow me to remove it for some reason FlatZone (talk) 02:15, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah some pages do that due to a bug problem but I will remove the extra info that is already in the infobox. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:23, September 18, 2019 (UTC))


"Use talkpage if you want information removed even if it is right or wrong because it has been there for a long time."

Someone already posted this information a long time ago on the talk page but no one actually responded and what that person said was true there is no mention in manga or anime regarding "cannot become stronger after obtaining immortality"Nekron2 (talk) 19:21, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

If you notice someone brought this up but have not responded to it you should’ve brought this case to currently active users or a currently admin in their respective talkpage for help regarding this subject. But please use talkpage first before removing information and if others don’t respond you can bring this to an admin for help. But we can discuss this in my talkpage why it should be removed. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:29, September 18, 2019 (UTC))

Yeah, sorry about that, I am new to this wikia. I recently went through the entire goku black arc (both anime and manga) and it has never been even hinted that immortality prevents oneself from growing stronger than before. In manga goku black stated the reason as to why he didn't want immortality is because "If you have a mighty sword, you don't need a shield" pointing out his super saiyan rose transformation but this wasn't even hinted anywhere.Nekron2 (talk) 19:35, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

No problem. I'm not too familiar with the manga as I've only watched the anime so in the text you provided I can see where you are coming from because it never really said that and only said immortality is not much of use to him when he has the his unique form such as Rosé due to lack of interest but did not say he can’t become stronger while immortal so that text may have to be removed. I only put it back because the information has been there for a while and it could be right information. I'm sure Neff or Bullza have read the manga so you might want to ask them about this as I've really only watched the anime. And I'm currently reading parts of the manga due to the Super anime airing stopping and no anime adaptation of the current Galactic patrol prisoner saga. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:45, September 18, 2019 (UTC))

Parallel World

Yeah, I know. But... I can't let the anime-only characters will be rebooted as  main continuity. I can't let that happened. >n< Zekons (talk) 12:46, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

... What? BatucanClouden Revives (talk) 14:42, January 17, 2020 (UTC)



Galactic Patrol

Were you planning on filling out more of the biography sections fro the latest chapter of the manga like you did with Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo or were you finished? I was waiting to see what you were doing because if you were going to then I'd leave you to it but if not I'll continue with it.Bullza (talk) 06:22, September 24, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah. Pretty much as they need to be updated whenever each new chapter comes out if there was already content on the sections to begin with. I'm a pretty slow writer so I may not get to every character quickly but at least I have a month to write everything out before a new chapter comes out. I'm also planning on doing one for Merus. May not be much to write for Saganbo and Moro so I may do there's as well. I think I might do Dende's but if you are up to update it before I do please feel free to do it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:30, September 24, 2019 (UTC))
Well I'll do a few of the other ones then like Jaco, Galactic King and Bulma.Bullza (talk) 16:52, September 24, 2019 (UTC)

Okay sounds good. I think I already updated Bulma's own though. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:27, September 24, 2019 (UTC))

I saw you'd put this in with a few characters "how the events of Goku and Vegeta's parents time is what lead King Vegeta to exile Broly to Vampa resulting in the events of the Broly Saga." and I'm not sure what you're trying to say there. Parents time? What did Goku's parents have to do with King Vegeta sending Broly away? And Vegeta's parent is King Vegeta.Bullza (talk) 00:58, September 25, 2019 (UTC)

Well, it was something Raphblade7 wrote and I just happened to copy and paste it to fill up some sections for characters that appeared in the Extra Edition 4 manga chapter. Now that you mention the part about Goku's parent time leading King Vegeta to exile Broly, it should be removed since it is false and they had no connection to Broly being banished from Planet Vegeta. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:12, September 25, 2019 (UTC))

Well the wording is off, it doesn't really make any sense. I'd reword it but I don't know what it's trying to say. Goku's parents had nothing to do with it and it's weird to say Vegeta's parents are leading to King Vegeta doing something.
Then again I'm not sure why it even needed to be its own section as Frieza isn't in the Galactic Patrol Saga. It's just Goku telling Merus and Jaco of previous events that are already described in the background section.Bullza (talk) 02:06, September 25, 2019 (UTC)

I think it was really meant to say King Vegeta's exile of Broly is what led to the Broly Saga as narrated. How about this rewording

"During the "Extra Edition 4" chapter of the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga, [Character] makes a brief appearance as the narrator notes the actions of King Vegeta exiling Broly to Vampa ultimately resulted in the battle against Broly during the events of the Broly Saga."

Maybe the section for Frieza appearing in the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga should be removed but then again I thought flashbacks count as an appearance. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 10:45, September 25, 2019 (UTC))

It's counted but we'd include it in the part of the story where the flashback happened. So like Frieza recounted his confrontation with Bardock and that happened in the Frieza saga but on Bardock's page we put that in the background section, same with King Vegeta. In the Frieza saga there was a flashback with Raditz and Nappa meeting Frieza but that was put in the "Between Jaco and Dragon Ball Z" section.
So I'm seeing on Cheelai's page that she has a Galactic Patrol Prisoner saga section but it just details what she did in the Broly saga so it should really be a Broly saga section. Just makes it confusing otherwise.Bullza (talk) 17:25, September 25, 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Just wanted some clarification. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:04, September 25, 2019 (UTC))

Rogeta and SS4

Rogeta has a long standing issue with me and he is known to edit war with not just me and but other users too, so he will never accept an edit to the page. I also already posted the proof on the SS4 talk page and the new thread I made.

the tail and a high enough power level are requirements for GGA and by extension SS4 FlatZone (talk) 17:03, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

and how is a consensus going to be reach if you and the other moderators ignore it btw?? FlatZone (talk) 17:17, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

He called me a dink, again. A dink is another name for a clown. That's twice now today. FlatZone (talk) 17:34, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean? I don't ignore consensus nor do the other mods I know do. If anything this wiki encourages consensus to be made to stop disputes upon users that can lead to edit wars or flaming and they encourage consensus to be made to leave it to the greater of the community to decide what needs to be kept or changed about the article whenever disputes arise so I don't know why you think mods ignore it. You yourself should know that whenever disputes happen and no consensus is reached it is up to the mods to make a final decision to the change and try to make users reach consensus with each other from their own input to the matter. I've also reached agreements with users that I've disputed with without admin help so I don't know why you think I ignore consensus. But I did tell Rogeta to stop with the name calling and discuss this respectfully with you in the talk. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:53, September 26, 2019 (UTC))

He started his nonsense again. " Watch yourself, little boy. " Here he goes again. FlatZone (talk) 20:08, September 26, 2019 (UTC) here he calls me a cunt why isn't this guy banned?? FlatZone (talk) 20:31, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Not sure. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:28, September 29, 2019 (UTC))


Hello there. I'm an admin on the Dr. Slump Wiki and have expertise knowledge on the series. 

It appears some info on the Dr. Slump articles here are simply false and I wish to correct them. Is that too hard to ask or am I doing it wrong? It's strange because the editor here is vastly different to the one on my home wiki. 

However I am asking to do my corrections  as I understand the subject matter more than most around here. 

Thank you. 

Tackytack (talk) 02:18, September 29, 2019 (UTC)Tackytack 

No problem. If you are an admin and have expertise knowledge of the Dr. Slump series then I trust you to correct any misinformation on the Dr. Slump articles here. Sorry if I reverted your edits as I wasn’t sure but since I know you are an admin in the Dr. Slump wiki then I have no problem of you correcting or changing information in the Dr. Slump articles here. Thank you. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:28, September 29, 2019 (UTC))

Dr. Slump Wiki links to Dragonball Wiki Dr. Slump Articles?

Hello there, Tackytack with a small question.

Is it possible I can source links of certain aspects of Dr. Slump articles here back to the Dr. Slump Wiki?

Things such as anime and manga origins, external links?

This can support the Dr. Slump Wiki more as I and my small group of editors need all the help we can get to make the English Dr. Slump knowledgebase the best it can be. 

Thank you.

Tackytack (talk) 02:36, September 29, 2019 (UTC)Tackytack

Yeah, I don't see any problem with that. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:44, September 29, 2019 (UTC))

How to prevent info box growth thing

I've noticed whenever I try to simply edit in the links of debuts, the article page multiplies the infobox info below and it is very confusing to me. 

It's strange because the Dr. Slump Wiki's editor is different compared to this type? I'm still new to this type if I'm honest and I can use some quick help to prevent that from happening. 

Thank you.

Tackytack (talk) 03:36, September 29, 2019 (UTC)Tackytack

It's a bug issue. Don’t worry I'll fix it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 03:48, September 29, 2019 (UTC))

Re: 2 users Removing Content from pages

I already took care of the issue, thanks for letting us know. Yon!米津愛主!Golden Frieza artVisit my talk page! 02:52, October 2, 2019 (UTC)

No problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 03:13, October 2, 2019 (UTC))

Heavenly Arrow

Here are some links that will get through to you and everyone here.

I believe you owe me an apology. Rogeta234 (talk) 15:35, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you were hoping your links would prove, but I understand what you've been trying to say and I have clearer proof:

You can see Zamasu's attack at the designated point in the video (24:35 specifically) and it's just the blade.

The ki blasts shown in the image are from that Zamasu's regular attack, not Heavenly Arrow. Characters in Heroes (that aren't giants or SP) always use their regular attack (depending on the type, either a melee combo or ki blasts) before using their Super. Dominodalek (talk) 16:33, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

Oh I see. But I pretty much am unfamiliar with this as I haven't played the game but from the looks of it it does look like a blade attack. That image might not be an attack from Heavenly Arrow but does Heavenly Arrow appear in the game? Rogeta was saying that the image was from a ki blast of God Split Cut which is a regular attack. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:48, October 3, 2019 (UTC))

Nope, God Slicer is Zamasu's only Super Attack in Heroes. Dominodalek (talk) 17:37, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

Very well then. Neff has already removed the information about Heavenly Arrow appearing in the game under God Split Cut. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:09, October 3, 2019 (UTC))

Potential admin

As you may have noticed we are currently in talks to promote you to admin, of course last time the subject of admins came up we added the rule that a user would need to be asked first before they were given the position, so I'm just making sure would you actually be interested in the position? --Neffyarious (talk) 19:58, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yes I would like to be an admin here in this wiki. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:04, October 3, 2019 (UTC))

You're now an Admin

I've granted you Admin permissions so you're now officially an Administrator, congratulations.Bullza (talk) 19:18, October 4, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks I will do my best. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:10, October 4, 2019 (UTC))

My recent edit

Sorry. Didn't know there was a chance DBS could come back.TheGreenBeetle (talk) 03:56, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

Well DBS is still continuing with the Moro arc in the manga so it very likely the anime series may come back and adapt the arc plus after the success of the Broly movie, I don’t have a doubt that the anime series for Super will come back eventually. I'm just waiting until we get an actual announcement of its return. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 04:00, October 6, 2019 (UTC))

Just a suggestion, but since there's no news on anymore DBS episodes so far, could we as that it is the last episode of the anime "So Far" or "To Date"? That way,  we'd indicate that there could be more episodes coming in the future.TheGreenBeetle (talk) 05:59, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah that'd be fine. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:01, October 6, 2019 (UTC))

K. ThxTheGreenBeetle (talk) 06:06, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

No problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:08, October 6, 2019 (UTC))


Congrats on becoming an admin.--Jack Jackson DB Fanon/MUC Wiki admin [mod] 00:17, October 7, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks JackJackson. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:07, October 7, 2019 (UTC))

Where are we lacking?

I generally like to make some more meaningful edits to improve this wikia as a whole as opposed to fixing typos or minutia but I can't think of anything. Where is there some good room for improvement to be had here now? I did the Power Level page, the Timeline page, all the Movie pages, the Video Game pages, I updated almost all of these Episodes and Saga pages, I do most of the stuff regarding Dragon Ball Heroes and the Super manga and updating the characters, I updated the info boxes, implemented the Abilities tabbers, implemented the Other Dragon Ball Stories section etc...I don't know what's left, I'm running out of ideas.

Oh I suppose one thing would be that the Film Appearances for a lot of characters is pretty lacking in information. Can you think of anything?Bullza (talk) 11:54, October 7, 2019 (UTC)

I think the personality and character appearance sections needs some improvements because either they lack in enough information or are totally empty for certain and some major characters like Dende who doesn’t even have enough information in his personality section despite being a pretty well known character. I'd generally do those sections if I knew what to write on them but because I'm not that good in those sections I generally pass on them and have someone who is capable of putting in information on them generally put information that's why I've been sometimes asking other users to help out in those sections if they want to although sometimes I do make an effort to fill up those sections if I come up with an idea even though it may generally not be the best but it is a way to fill up that section if needed. The movie sections are definitely lacking in information for certain character like Krillin, Master Roshi, and some major and probably lots of minor characters that's why I have been putting stubs on them so I can work on them later and I'm glad I'm through with finishing up the film appearances section for Bulma. About other things we can implement to help improve this wiki, I've been thinking and thinking and I happen to have no ideas of what other things we can help improve this wikia but I was planning on putting in the images for the viz media titles for all the Dragon Ball manga since the title images are all shown in its japanese text and want to add those images for consistency reasons. I also essentially put in the Japanese title images for all Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT Episodes and I'm currently focusing on fixing the infobox, romaji and kanji for all the episodes in the Dragon Ball series and I'm planning on doing the same for the Dragon Ball manga chapters. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 12:34, October 7, 2019 (UTC))

I'll sometimes add to the Appearances if it's empty but yeah that or the Personality section isn't something I usually dabble in either. The movie sections though, they are quite lacking for many characters. I had no idea that Roshi's was so empty. Janemba to say he's pretty popular doesn't have much written at all.
The Dragon Ball/Z manga chapters is another thing that could be updated because they aren't all at the standard as the Dragon Ball Super chapters but I'm not about to read through 520 chapters just for that but maybe one day. The info revolving around Dragon Ball SD is lacking but then I don't care to read that. Jaco the Galactic Patrol has a summary given for the first two chapters and then nothing for the rest so that's a possibility. The Dragon Ball Kai episode pages aren't at the standard as the others now but I ain't about to go through all that either.
Yeah I think maybe the movie one then, I'll go through the movies and update the characters where needed, fill that out. This wiki has so many pages it's kinda hard to keep up.Bullza (talk) 13:09, October 7, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah it really is for sure, that's why I may need help on doing some of the explanations for some of the characters cus of course I can't do all of them by myself and I may need some help on some of them. Many users I've seen for some reason don't like to contribute to those sections or write little and they wait until someone else fills it up that they start doing very little or minor edits on them. The only user that I've seen that would really do the most work in those film sections would be DragonEmeperor but even he's not here and he is a huge asset when it comes to that section especially since he's helped shorten out and added a few missing details when I filled up the sections for Bulma in her film appearances sections for Broly, Resurrection F and Battle Gods and if he were still here he might have done it for the rest of the movies that I filled up for Bulma because I can admit that the Path to Power and Sleeping Princess explanations for Bulma's appearance is really long and needs to be shortened down. Same for the Goku and Vegeta explanation I did for them of their Broly movie appearances. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:35, October 7, 2019 (UTC))

Well ideally you want to have enough information so people know what's going on but without over explaining every detail because these pages are pretty long as it is and with all the pictures it can slow pages down. Things like movies and video games because there's so many and they're secondary also don't need to be probably as detailed as the main biography. It always annoys me seeing how long the Xenoverse 2 section is on certain character pages because it's way too long for just one simple game.
It's hard but I also try to be consistent with the volume of writing. So for example (and this ain't a criticism) on Dende's page you wrote about as much information for what Dende did in the newest chapter of the manga as was written for him across the entire Majin Buu saga lol.
Several people do this though now, if you look at Goku's page, the Universe Survival saga section goes on forever, that section accounts for 63,000 bytes worth of info. Meanwhile the section for the entirety of Dragon Ball Z which is made up of almost 5 times the amount of episodes...that account for only 48,000 bytes worth of info. It should not be like that at all.Bullza (talk) 14:18, October 7, 2019 (UTC)

Indeed we should be consistent with the level of writing and not over explain things too much which I have trouble keeping things simple and straightforward and end up explaining something I already previously explained, mention even the little bitty details that aren’t really relevant and I sometimes try to avoid irrelevant details by skipping them and summarize in way that connects the piece of information so readers can understand my writings without overdoing it a little but even that doesn’t work and it still happens so I just give out whatever ringing bell comes in my head whether long or short even if my contributions are totally not the best because I can admit explaining every detail of what a character did or do in a saga can be tiring and sometimes it is even hard for me to use words to explain important or relevant details while trying to shorten everything. But I still try my best to keep everything short but still end up explaining things really long for some reason. Maybe that is just my own natural way of explaining things. That's why when I add really long explanations I ask people to shorten down for me but even nobody offers to do it except for DragonEmeperor but that was when he was here. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:44, October 7, 2019 (UTC))

Well it's always better to have the information there as opposed to it not being there. I suppose I'll eventually have to comb through Goku's page to shrink it down. About a year ago I did that but now it's ballooned up again, I should see about bringing it down to under 500,000 bytes.Bullza (talk) 14:52, October 7, 2019 (UTC)

That's sounds fine. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:59, October 7, 2019 (UTC))


Can I get your input on this? - Bullza (talk) 20:35, October 10, 2019 (UTC)


Why are you deleting my images and re-uploading them under a different name? Are you dumb? (face palm) beadtmdc (talk) 03:49, October 11, 2019 (UTC)

Because there was already an image existing for that and there was no need for the duplicate image so I uploaded it as a new file version of an image that was already the same image and deleted the one uploaded by you due to being a duplicate. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 09:47, October 11, 2019 (UTC))

Then delete the old one instead. The images I'm uploading have the name of the character(s), place, object, etc., and episode number which makes them easier to find. beadtmdc (talk) 12:49, October 11, 2019 (UTC)

The old images names are also easier to find as well and they are fine the way they are. All you needed to do was upload a new file version. Not upload a duplicate image that is already the same unless if it was decided to be replaced by the duplicate image. Also, they don't particularly have to have the episode number, place or object to be easier to find. The character name or object with the option to also adding the movie, tv show or manga name they appeared in is more than enough to help find an image. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:59, October 11, 2019 (UTC))


Okay, but then don't we need to change the immortality page? As if fused zamsu survived zeno's erase ability, then what is written on multiple pages is wrong.Nekron2 (talk) 10:32, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

He was erased. But in Dragon Ball Heroes through unknown means he was brought back to life. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 10:38, October 13, 2019 (UTC))

Actually, in heroes Fused Zamasu outrightly stated that he was brought to life by his immortality, not by some mysterious force. So, zeno's erase ability actually failed.Nekron2 (talk) 10:43, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

Source? (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 10:44, October 13, 2019 (UTC))

Though I cannot provide manga links, this will help-

Read what is mentioned by Zamasu here in the immortality section.Nekron2 (talk) 10:49, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

It has already been on the immortality page for a while. --Neffyarious (talk) 10:51, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

Well, then there is a contradiction as the drawbacks mention that immortals cannot survive zeno's erasure. So, I think the drawbacks need to be edited.Nekron2 (talk) 10:54, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

It didn't say that, it only said that immortals are susceptible to being erased. Meaning that despite a high percent chance an immortal can die by being erased there is also a chance an immortal can survive the erasing ability. It didn’t say that immortals cant survive the erasing ability so I see no contradiction there. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 11:07, October 13, 2019 (UTC))

Neff added in a few more details so it can make sense. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 11:10, October 13, 2019 (UTC))

The drawbacks still state this-

"Even being made immortal via the Super Dragon Balls does not render them immune to Zeno's Erase ability. This was demonstrated in the anime when Infinite Zamasu, as noted above, was erased by Future Zeno. This was also implied in the manga by Future Zamasu's concern about what would happen if Future Zeno found out about their Zero Mortals Plan, and later confirmed in Chapter 26 of the manga, where Infinite Zamasu, the evolved state of Fused Zamasu, was outright erased by Future Zeno."

So....... I don't think that is matches with what you said.Nekron2 (talk) 11:11, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

Neff fixed that as well. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 11:24, October 13, 2019 (UTC))

Alright but the erase page and the page of super shenron too need to be edited as they also essentially state the exact same thing.Nekron2 (talk) 11:26, October 13, 2019 (UTC)


Congrats on your promotion. BTW, I believe I am owed an apology for the Heavenly Arrow thing.Rogeta234 (talk) 22:28, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Rogeta. And also I already apologized to you about the Heavenly Arrow thing when you messaged me on Community Central. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:31, October 17, 2019 (UTC))

Oh, you did? Sorry, I guess I haven't checked on it lately. Rogeta234 (talk) 22:34, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

Broly DBS in FighterZ

Just delete already the “canon” part already. & don’t undo what’s already confirmed ScottKazama (talk) 23:09, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

You already took care of it but please refrain from adding that very word into article as there is no official true canon. Please stop adding canon or non-canon into articles we go by the real meaning of it which is any Dragon Ball related information that comes from an official source such as Toriyama, the animators of DB, toyotaro, daizenshuu, video games or any other official source like anime series or manga series pertaining to Dragon Ball. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:22, October 18, 2019 (UTC))

Be wary of this

You've probably seen the formatting issue that causes the information in the character infobox to be displayed on the page itself proper a second time like this.

That has happened a good number of times, at first I thought it was perhaps a vandalism thing but it happened across different users to the point it was too oddly specific to be that. Rogeta just did it and Doctorwho did it yesterday, dunno if that's what you meant when you warned him about formatting but it seems an accidental thing. I'm not sure what causes it but if you see it again then best to view it as unintentional (unless you already do) as opposed to any wrong doing. - Bullza (talk) 00:24, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

That's been going on for a while. We seriously need to fix that. Rogeta234 (talk) 00:36, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

It has and I don't know why that happens. That was why I was wondering if you'd shifted a line or something while you were in the process of removing Merus from the infobox. Perhaps deleted a space maybe or moved the }}, I'm not sure why it happens. I don't see it happen across many different character pages, seems like it happen with Goku a bit though.Bullza (talk) 01:29, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

No that was not what I meant. DrWhofan kept switching around things like moving Goku's Bardock the Father of Goku appearance from his Film appearance to the main biography without explanation with the addition of doing it to other characters like Bardock and Tora for example. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:00, October 22, 2019 (UTC))

Oh I see, I have heard a complaint before about the Bardock movie even being included as a movie because in a way it kind of isn't. So maybe he was one of those people.Bullza (talk) 01:29, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe so, though I am not aware of the complaint but he should still let other people know fist before or an admin before switching things around. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:31, October 22, 2019 (UTC))

Adding Students to the character inbox

For those who took on other students as apprentices/students could we add a student section into the infobox please? --Jkirk8907 (talk) 23:28, October 28, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah that might actually be a good idea though I'm not sure. Bring this up to Bullza. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:38, October 28, 2019 (UTC))

Note Gallery

I was trying to make the Note gallery bigger —This unsigned comment was made by SSJ2 Beat (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

You still need to upload your images properly or they will be deleted due to not conforming to certain standards or style here. Stop taking pictures of images in computer monitors when you can get a screenshot as screenshots are generally more preferred then the ones you uploaded. That is not the right way to upload images and they will likely be deleted. Same goes for screenshoting an image that still has thr iphone display screen stuff around when you can just screenshot the image itself or if you can do that you can just cut off the parts that have the iphone display stuff on there. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:25, October 29, 2019 (UTC))

Well is this image of Ultimate Class Super Saiyan 2 Note accurate?,h_670,q_70,strp/i_turn_into_ssj2_by_notehungry_ddhf97z-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NzIwIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvMjZkZTc2MWEtODI5OC00M2Q3LTg4YjItYzZlOWJmNmZkYWY2XC9kZGhmOTd6LTQ0YzBiMzY0LWVjNjMtNDgwZS05ZTViLTQwMzBiMmVlNjllYi5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.AocN3PGS4r7e6mY9-re3Z1peFI2cljduZWhtZuXMEXg

That is good. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:00, October 29, 2019 (UTC))

The Fact That You're Reverting My Edits

Okay, so far I've seen you revert edits I've made to three pages (that I know of; I don't check the site every day).

Firstly, on the subject of the DBS: Broly movie article, I believe my edits are more than justified. I've mostly been editing minor grammar and tidbits, and the tidbit I added about Vegeta using the Super Saiyan 2 form in the anime isn't even inaccurate - he famously used the form against Beerus, and the anime is known to sometimes not illustrate lightning in the aura of SSJ2 characters, making it debatable if Vegeta later chooses to abandon the form (which he most likely didn't, given Goku didn't either and Vegeta used the form to battle Black in the manga).

Secondly, my edit to the Gohan article matches with the description of Gohan using Super Saiyan 2 to battle Super #17 which is information found on the article itself as well as the main Super Saiyan 2 article, so I reverted that to the version I made. Please don't revert my edits for no reason. Thirdly, I made a similar edit in the Vegeta article changing Vegeta's forms being used against Super 17 and Syn/Omega Shenron respectively to Super Saiyan 2. This also is in accordance with the main SSJ2 article, and in the case of the Omega battle, Vegeta is shown visibly powering up with lightning sparks in his aura in episode 63. None of these edits are unjustified. If you feel there's anything erroneous about my points, please use my talk page to respond and I will respond in turn.

Crockodyle (talk) 16:10, October 31, 2019 (UTC)Crockodyle

Formatting error

sorry. actually i don't understand what i've done, but i gues you mean to the title of the episode compressed to one line? i don't understand what did that, how can i make it won't happen?

i don't understand what i'm doing. i'm not touching it, i just edited the trivia. it becomes scroll box without me doing anything. anyway i'm sorry and i'd like to know how to prevent that. by the way, grammer mistakes or wrong words, anything like it, sorry. not my native.

Shunkan iddo (talk) 23:55, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

sorry, but i can't see any different between

"The Ultimate Enemy Approaches Goku! Now, Let Loose! The Killer Spirit Bomb!!" (悟空に迫る最強の敵!今こそ放て!必殺の元気玉!! Goku ni Semaru Saikyo no Teki! Ima Koso Hanate! Hisassu no Genki-Dama!!)


"The Ultimate Enemy Approaches Goku! Now, Let Loose! The Killer Spirit Bomb!!" (悟空に迫る最強の敵!今こそ放て!必殺の元気玉!! Goku ni Semaru Saikyo no Teki! Ima Koso Hanate! Hisassu no Genki-Dama!!)

where is the difference? there's anything? and even if there is i didn't touched it.

Make sure that when you edit the page in source mode, that the intro doesn’t sit next to the episode infobox like this: }}{{when it should be like this on separate lines:

to prevent a scrollbox from appearing in the intro text of any episode you edit. It is constant bug problem though but that should still be easy to fix so please don’t make that same error again. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:05, November 3, 2019 (UTC))
i just edited the episode about the saiyan oath. was that OK? i just hit the enter button between the }} and the {{.
They should be on separate lines. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:18, November 3, 2019 (UTC))

Shunkan iddo (talk) 00:20, November 3, 2019 (UTC) i just checked it and it looks just as when it looked before i edited it except the thing about cabbe and goku achieving new super saiyans. it's shows that only that part changed. so it's OK, right?

Yeah it is good. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:24, November 3, 2019 (UTC))

Shunkan iddo (talk) 00:29, November 3, 2019 (UTC) thanks

No problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:32, November 3, 2019 (UTC))


I don't know if you've realised it or not but when you added the alternatives for the manga pages, you've made it so that the English version isn't the default image. You can't switch between images on tabs on mobile so you wouldn't see the English image.Bullza (talk) 10:50, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Hidden Page

Mister Sosuagwu17, what do you think about the hidden page?

With Respect - Darek

The hidden page was unnecessary and shouldn’t have been created. Bullza deleted the page though so that's all good. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:58, November 9, 2019 (UTC))


Okay, okay. Fine. I'll stop editing the false informations. Zekons (talk) 15:27, November 23, 2019 (UTC)

Stop edit warring.

Broly (DBZ), like his Super counterpart, is the latest of the Legendary Super Saiyans. It was stated by Paragus himself and if he wasn't, Broly wouldn't have the form. So please stop it. Rogeta234 (talk) 02:00, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Technically it is Broly (DBS) who is the latest shown Legendary Super Saiyan due to the Broly movie being the latest media as of right now to feature a new character as a LSS and the events of that movie take place after his DBZ counterpart and Kale were first shown as Legendary Super Saiyans. So you can say he is one of the latest LSS. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:50, December 7, 2019 (UTC))

Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga with DBH

UnitedCrusader (talk) 17:25, November 28, 2019 (UTC)Super Dragon Ball Heroes Is Not Connected To Galactic Patrol Prisoner ArcUnitedCrusader (talk) 17:25, November 28, 2019 (UTC)

If your reading this I'm not being rude or somewhat. I'm just criticise about your edit ok

There is no proof that Super Dragon Ball Heroes the anime is connected to the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc for Three Reasons

1: At the start of the anime it did not mention the event at all. If that is the case then the Grand Priest would have known who is Meerus is by now.

2: Vegeta is training on Yardrat in Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc. If Super Dragon Ball Heroes takes place after that he would have most likely had a new form/moves by that point.

3: Hearts would have to break Moro out of prison (Unless he died or somewhat) and let him join the Core Area Warriors.

So, in short, it will make the anime no sense if that is the case.

We know that it's not all fully connected but we treat it that way from a chronological standpoint anyway. Just as we know that GT isn't connected to Super and there's loads of holes there but we still have it as taking place after anyway.Bullza (talk) 07:50, November 29, 2019 (UTC)


Hello, I just noticed my edit to the Broly(DBS) gallery was removed. Just curious what the reason is? Thanks.Marq92 (talk) 23:53, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Scratch that, I realized why. Didn't know a section was added on the main page for the new manga pages. My apologies, new here.Marq92 (talk) 00:07, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Your images were poorly named and had watermarks so I had to remove and delete them from the gallery. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:42, December 7, 2019 (UTC))


Can I create articles on this wiki about the Voice Over versions of Dragon Ball in different countries?Or do you just collect information about dubs?--Pilker3 (talk) 16:21, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by voice over? Are you talking about creating articles for voice actors from different countries? That are not from Japan, Canada or the United States? (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:05, December 7, 2019 (UTC))
I meant the versions with the lector. Something like that --Pilker3 (talk) 11:31, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

I don’t know, ask the other admins for their input on this. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 14:27, December 8, 2019 (UTC))

Or maybe instead of dubs just create the category: Dragon Ball in Other Countries so that we will have Dub versions, Voice-Over versions and subtitles versions in one place.--Pilker3 (talk) 14:29, January 4, 2020 (UTC)

Ask the other admins for their input and see what they say. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:24, January 4, 2020 (UTC))


Hey! Why are you undoing this page for Cell?!Vincent Ly

The explanation was fine the way it was before you reworded a few things. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:07, December 7, 2019 (UTC))

Goku page

Hey, this is Bardock702 I joined the wiki like a month ago, I tried to edit something in the Goku page, but it doesn't appear when I get out of the editing page.

Would be pleased if you told me what's going on.

BARDOCK702 (talk) 18:44, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

I’m not sure of the something that you mean. Can you please tell me what is you were trying to particularly edit on the page?(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:55, December 8, 2019 (UTC))

Problem solved

Sorry for bothering


BARDOCK702 (talk) 17:19, December 9, 2019 (UTC)

Gravity chamber is in Dragon ball legends but its not included in video game appearences —This unsigned comment was made by Forsaken2 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Excuse me

Why did you undo my message in Bunkai Teleport and Earth Breaker Unnamedblockster661 (talk) 15:28, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

They have nothing to do with improving the article and unrelated to Dragon Ball. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC))


why everytime i make a edit you have to change my edit to like you did it? Nikon23 16:23, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

Don't know what you are talking about but I'm just fixing the formatting in the text regarding the spacing and how they are supposed to be arranged in the article. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:39, December 15, 2019 (UTC))

Super Dragon Ball Heroes is not part same timeline as Dragon Ball Super Broly

Please stop trying to connected Super Dragon Ball Heroes with the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga without proof. ~~~~SaiyanCrusader 17:14, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Your Admin role is no offence to this wiki is the most incompetent edit I have ever seen. Can you just stop trying to say that Super Dragon Ball Heroes and Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga. If I was an Admin I would have been more competent about the timeline placement. I'm not saying you're a bad person I'm just saying your Edit is lying and manipulation to younger fans of Dragon Ball. So please I don't want drama or edit war I'm just criticizing your role as an Admin. ~~~~SaiyanCrusader 17:14, December 16, 2019

About the we treat every series in order excuse

Why I do understand your points one thing I had a problem with is we treat every series in order excuse for three reasons

1: When you said we treat every series in order you are saying I'm don't care about continuity I'm can do whatever I want which means by that logic. You can have Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Goten and Kid Trunks for no reason but no one can stop you becurse you can do what you want. This a bad thing as it shows your incompetent behaviour.

2: If we treat a series in the order it can confuse anyone and make so many plot holes. (e:g if we saying that Dragon Ball GT is in the same universe as the Dragon Ball Super then where is Beerus and Whis to help the others to stop Omega Shenron) That's why Dragon Ball GT is a parallel universe from Dragon Ball Super as Akria Toriyama retconned GT out of the main timeline as it can make so many plot holes if he keeps in Dragon Ball GT.

3: Continuity is helpful as it can make the story some sense (Unless you doing Comedy that doesn't care about continuity like Spongebob or the Simpsons) to show what I mean. Do you know the reason why Secret Agent Clank story is not good It because continuity is broken and due to this is users like TGX Game Reviews criticize the game story for the same reason why I had to criticize Super Dragon Ball Heroes the anime for broken continuity. (e:g Hit somehow used ki blast without training from anyone with ki like Goku or Cabba or where is Xeno Goku from episode 2 to episode 5 did he gone back to time patrol place but you cant leave prison planet as Fu said) Plus in the X-Men Films Series some continuity problems like in Dark Phoenix like how is everyone still look young they now 60s by that point.

See what I mean this is why you can't just dismiss criticism with we treat every series in order excuse and it can underestimate any dragon ball fan intelligence. 18:50, December 16, 2019 (UTC)SaiyanCrusader

It's not that we are saying much of anything and that's kind of the point. We list and mention things in a chronological order based on the timeline. After that everyone can make up whatever continuity they want. GT doesn't really connect to Super but whether it's canon or non canon, it is chronologically after it.Bullza (talk) 21:54, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Indeed, while it appears that DBS and DBGT cannot exist in the same timeline, there is no official concrete statement that says they don't occur in the same timeline. So, we just have to list them one after the other. It's the same case with DBH - it's never been said to take place in a different timeline to DBS so it's simply listed chronologically. In this case: Goku has not used Ultra Instinct since Universe Survival in Galactic Patrol Prisoner, so Prison Planet must occur after it chronologically. --Neffyarious (talk) 22:04, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

El Hermano

So I've been putting links to this wiki on other Dragon ball games and the link I put for El Hermano is gone. I searched it on here and theres nothing. It's gone!! what happened to El Hermano?! —This unsigned comment was made by Forsaken2 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Don’t know. Might’ve been deleted because you're posting links to external sites irrelevant to official Dragon Ball information. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:20, December 17, 2019 (UTC))

Vandal on this wiki

He imposted Axl-fox and vandalized the Future Trunks page for unknown personal reasons. Please block him for an infinite time now.

2020-chan (talk) 10:51, December 18, 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry, I already dealt with him. Yon!米津愛主!Golden Frieza artVisit my talk page! 11:38, December 18, 2019 (UTC)


Not that I hate you... Not that I hate this place... I shouldn't even be doing this... This is gonna be my biggest mistake here... II feel that even trying not to do this, I'll end up breaking dozens of rules here... All because I can't hold back my emotions... This place is not appropriate for this... This is a Dragon Ball Wiki... People should be neutral here and focus on content... But if neither I can take school seriously, who would say that ...? I'm getting crazy... What seemed to be relaxing and fun ended up being stressful and getting me without sleepy nights... I can't take this anymore... I know how childish I'm being now, I admit it... But when You spend 5 hours on dozens of Japanese and Chinese sites to find ONE reference and it gets deleted without any explanation, it kills my weak mind... I thought that I could share my knowledge about DBZ here, thought i could bring new contents to here... But here... This is where I started to go crazy and not being able to write even 1 message in English without being afraid of being criticized, I lost count of how many times I had to sleep early because of so much headaches. I've always had a head here... And whenever I try to walk away... I remember that this is the best place to get easy access information about Dragon Ball... I know I know I know... it's my fault I have an English language that is unintelligible, it's my fault about getting crazy out about it... it's my fault my Edits get deleted... and it's my fault what's going to happen now ... "Maybe" I'm going to be banned... And I really understand that... But I needed to get it all out before... I'm really sorry for this unnecessary text on YOUR talkpage... But I didn't know where else to write this... But... this is going to be the last time... And you know what I mean with that ... Sometimes I'm just a great selfish idiot... I understand if you get mad with tthat... Sorry... And Bye...—This unsigned comment was made by RebirthArtOFC (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I’m not mad at you and you are not an idiot as you do so much work here that there are certain aspects of things about Dragon Ball that you know that I may not know. Everyone is free to edit in this site as long as you are not trying to blatantly vandalize the site. I know you are frustrated when your edits get removed without explanation as I do a lot of checking around here that I fail to explain a few reversions of certain users edits. I will try my best to explain some of the edits I remove. But please know that if someone undoes your edits, the best thing you should do is go to the talkpage to discuss the disputed edit and not let your emotions get the best of you regardless of how frustrated you are as we as a community still need to follow site rules and we can’t let our emotions get in the way of that. Sorry for bringing you headache as you do a great job with updating the site with pages for techniques. It is just sometimes when you write things it’s so hard to understand that I get it removed because other readers may not understand what is being written because of the poor grammar and writing. As we all know that this is an encyclopedia, articles have to be for the most part well written with the exception of a few grammar or spelling errors without having too many grammar mistakes so readers that come to this site can understand what is being written and it helps the site look as credible as possible. Because if we have too many grammar mistakes and spelling errors, the site won’t really look as credible that’s why it is important we should write properly. Being that you are portuguese and english is not your native language, when you write things for articles, the best thing you should do is go to a word processor to correct your spelling and grammar mistakes before you post the edit to the site amd always check for mistakes in your edits before you publish them or after. Also, the reference that you post to the site should be properly named and titled, without it just being a link with a bunch of random letters that doesn’t tell you anything about the link as the references are meant to describe or name the source being used. I also notice that you have been sourcing what seems to be other encyclopedias as sources. Do know that this site being an encyclopedia as well are not supposed to source other things from other encyclopedias as both are in the tertiary level of information. The best thing is to find the primary source of the information that the encyclopedia used and use it as the main source when sourcing things into articles. You also can’t use forums as a source as well. I‘m not here to criticize you, I feel that certain qualities of your editing needs a little improvement but the grammar one I can let that slide since I’m assuming you are not that fluent in English but there is always a word processor that can help you correct your errors in you writing in English. Sorry for putting too much headache on you and I will try to overlook your edits more and give an explanation more often if I decide to remove them if I see something wrong with it but still thank you for your contributions and the many hours you put trying to get information for this site. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:28, December 20, 2019 (UTC))

Well... I can't disagree with anything you wrote here... Sorry if i was too problematic, i am gonna try improve the best i can and try to control my emotions (at least here)... I'll take a break to understand so many things i still don't understand about Organization, References and Grammar on a Wiki... You can delete this as well, i just think this isn’t a thing which the community needs to see... Thank You...

RebirthArtOFC (talk) 02:05, December 21, 2019 (UTC)

No problem. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:06, December 21, 2019 (UTC))

The translation of Turles' Japanese name

So, "Tarless" is an accurate translation of Turles' Japanese name? Wc12271991 (talk) 21:46, December 22, 2019 (UTC)

Don't know. Maybe. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 04:59, December 23, 2019 (UTC))

Discussions Moderator

Hello, Mr. Sosuagwu17. I was wondering if I could become a Discussion Moderator. I have a Wiki of my own and I think I can handle the responsibility. I always follow the rules, I don't swear, and I try my best to be polite to others and stand up for them if their being bullied. I've been on the discussion posts, and I've seen a lot of rule breaking. I report these posts, but they're never taken down or altered. I want to help this Wiki in any way that I can, and I believe that helping out on the discussion posts would be the best way. Thank you for your time.

December 28, 2019. Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin (talk) 02:50, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

I see you have a lot of activity there, 0558E10Y who is among our primary social admins has not been really active lately on the discussions side of the wiki, JBour has pretty much been inactive for months and Super Ben 1000000 has been inactive for a year now. I believe a new discussions moderator can be needed and be beneficial to replace the already inactive Super Ben 1000000. I will promote you as a new discussions moderator as we could use some help on the discussions side of the wiki while 0558E10Y who is our main active discussions moderator also admin is out as he is probably busy with other things in his personal life and probably doesn't currently have time to check up on the discussions side of the wiki since his last discussions post was on November. Congratulations on becoming a new discussions moderator. I'm not sure if I have to notify the other admins that I promoted someone as discussions moderator or need to get their input first but I don't think I have to as it is only needed in cases where you are promoting users to admins or bureaucrat but I am not capable of that as only bureaucrats can promote other users to bureaucrats or admins. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 04:16, December 29, 2019 (UTC))

Discussions Moderator 

Good morning sir,

I would like to become a discussions moderator. I have noticed that it would be useful to the community, I have always kept to the rules, and will never break them. I also like helping other people at all times, i myself have my own wiki, and I run that responsibly. I could be someone who saves you from having to do a lot more than you have to. I would love an opportunity to prove myself to someone as j never get the chance. I love Dragon ball and most of the users are friendly  and I want to be able to give something back to everyone. I also recommend Ya Boi King Kai because he is a nice and yet somewhat strict to rule breakers.

Yours sincerely

DragonballZ050 (talk) 07:48, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Admin Sosuagwu17.

 I've wanted to ask this for a while, but never got around to doing it. I have been wondering if I may become a                 Discussion Moderator. I see on the Community page that this fandom seems to be lacking in discipline when it             comes to certain rules. I wanted to help in any way possible. I am on here quite a bit and make many posts                 about many things. I have actually been helping to tend another fledgling fandom as an admin and moderator                 (Weebipedia) I have experiance in keeping the peace and promise not to abuse the rights that the position                     holds. In the end, this is your choice, but I would love to help out in any way possible. Dragon Ball is one of my             favorite animes, and keeping the peace here on the wiki that serves as primary source of info for starting                     fans would be quite the honor for me. I thank you for your time and consideration.

                                                                                       Ya Boi King Kai (talk) 08:33, December 29, 2019 (UTC) Your's truely, Ya Boi King Kai /Date 12-29-19

Very, well then. Seems like you two are really interested in becoming discussions moderators and are up for the task and responsibility for handling the discussions side of the wiki. I will add you two as two new additional discussions moderators after Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin as I believe I can trust you guys with the rights I've granted you. Congratulations on becoming new discussions moderators. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 09:34, December 29, 2019 (UTC))

I really thank you for letting me have a big responsibility. J never have the chance, thanks for letting me prove myself. Take a well earned break mate, you need it. As for me and king Kai, we got it covered

DragonballZ050 (talk) 09:42, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

off topic

Hey, do you want me to make an off topic post? Just to keep the place thrivingDragonballZ050 (talk) 10:22, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Sure. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:24, December 29, 2019 (UTC))
Making one now Baby Yoda (talk) 16:42, December 29, 2019 (UTC)
Made. Will run for 1 week, then I'll make a new one


Hi there! A user called hymnn has been posting negative stuff for a while, mocking characters then going at other users such as my fellow mod Ya Boi King Kai saying "who else goes on this app to post stupid stuff, we only look up episodes". To be fair, I've tried to take action, and I haven't succeeded. Please may I have some help?

From @DragonBallZ050 aka Baby Yoda (talk) 13:26, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

I left him a warning. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:24, December 29, 2019 (UTC))
Thanks. I'll keep an eye on him
Baby Yoda (talk) 16:47, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Discussions Moderator

Hey up Soguaswu17! Its Vegeta1033 here! I woukd like to apply to be a discussions moderator. I am responsible and friendly. My brother is DragonBallZ050, and i would like to help you. 


Vegeta1033 (talk) 13:40, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Bit odd how all three people just suddenly asked to be made a discussions moderator within the space of a few hours on the same talk page.Bullza (talk) 14:42, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

I can't promote you as a Discussion Moderator because you have a history of being blocked before a few months ago for making inappropriate jokes so who knows how you will handle being a Discussions Moderator and usually users who have been blocked don't really get privileges about 1-2 years of their activity in this wiki and also until they have shown their a trustworthy and responsible user to be granted those privileges. Besides I just promoted 3 users as discussions moderators recently and I feel it is enough discussions moderators for now that we don't need an additional moderator. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:40, December 29, 2019 (UTC))

@Bullza, pretty odd. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:49, December 29, 2019 (UTC))
Bullza, we saw Fennekin get the role, so me, king Kai and Vegeta1033 all applied. Me and king Kai got it, while Vegeta didn't. Me, king Kai and Fennekin are all trustworthy, we have never broke the rules on here and would love to work with you.
DragonBallZ050 aka Baby Yoda (talk) 16:27, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Ayyy let's goo!

-me —This unsigned comment was made by Jetbug2003 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Hey-o! I know a lot of people have been asking to be a discussions mod and Ive wanted to do it for a while. I was gonna ask a while back but I was busy with personal promblems. I am now free and almost active everyday! I see people all around being rude and nasty to each other and cursing and I wanna help stop it!  I know a lot of people have been asking, so if my answer is no then its ok. Thanks! Yen (talk) 16:20, December 29, 2019 (UTC)BROLYEN53

We already have 3 discussions moderators right now which is enough for now. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:51, December 29, 2019 (UTC))

off topic: follow up

Right, I have made an off topic post. It will run for one week, and has certain rules. Is that okay?

DragonBallZ050 29th December 2019 17.04

It's fine. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:10, December 29, 2019 (UTC))
Will you keep an eye on it? DragonBallZ050 (talk) 17:16, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think so as I don't focus too much on the social side of the wiki and mainly focus on the content side of it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:29, December 29, 2019 (UTC))

Oh yeah, another issue, a link has been posted for an app. Could you check, I don't know if it is safe

DragonBallZ050 (talk) 17:37, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry, the link is safe DragonBallZ050 (talk) 17:38, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

is this where you register to become a modder? if so, I would love to be one. I've loved DBZ since I was born.thank you. UltimanX (talk) 03:52, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

No you have to ask a bureaucrat or admin if they can make you become a mod. If you're trying to ask to become a discussions moderator then I can't grant you it since I just promoted 3 users as Discussion Mods and 3 mods is enough to handle the social side of the wiki on top of our mostly active social based admin 0551E80Y who also watches the social side of the wiki so I am sorry I can't give you discussions moderator rights. Also you don't even have up to 100 - 1000 discussions post or more, or close to 1000 discussions post so how would I know if you would be active at all if I give you Discussions Moderators rights. You just posted your first discussions post about 2 days since your first post on April and you have to be active more than that in order to be granted discussions moderator rights as those rights are only given to more active and responsible users who participate mostly in the social side of the wiki. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:07, December 30, 2019 (UTC))
UltimanX, we have 3 mods currently, Me, Ya Boi King Kai and Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin. We can help if you want, so just drop a message o  my talk page
DragonBallZ050 (talk) 07:26, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hymnn follow up

I haven't seen a sock puppet yet... if anything happens, I'll let you know. Also use my talk page from now on.

DragonBallZ050 (talk) 09:54, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

Alright. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:14, December 30, 2019 (UTC))

Discussions Moderator

Hello would I be able to become a dm on dbz fandom I feel like I'd be a helpful addition to the team.Beeku super saiyan 01 (talk) 17:22, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

No you can't since we already have 3 which is enough moderator to overlook the discussions and social side of the wiki. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:13, December 30, 2019 (UTC))
To be honest, we do have enough mods. 

DragonBallZ050 (talk) 18:27, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

Image for info box

Could u add an image of baby Yoda on my info box o   y profile page. I can't do it. Thx! DragonBallZ050 (talk) 19:07, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

Okay. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:39, December 30, 2019 (UTC))

mod discussion

Should i make a mod discussion post, or an ask a mod a question post? DragonBallZ050 (talk) 19:15, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

Sure. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:40, December 30, 2019 (UTC))


Have we got a discord server? If not, should I make one? DragonBallZ050 (talk) 10:34, December 31, 2019 (UTC)

hi would i be able to become a discussion moderator, i feel i could bring a lot of use to the team on the dragonball fandom.Beeku super saiyan 01 (talk) 10:40, December 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think you've already asked beku and he said no. We have enough, but thanks for asking. DragonBallZ050 (talk) 11:44, December 31, 2019 (UTC)

I don't know. You should ask the other admins like Neff or Bullza if we have one. Also, no users should come and ask me to make them a discussions moderator. At this time, we are not accepting any new discussions moderators. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:22, December 31, 2019 (UTC))

I think I found a sock puppet

I think User:Tappedyute is a sock puppet of User:Hymnn

DragonBallZ050 (talk) 14:27, December 31, 2019 (UTC)

Okay thanks for letting me know. I'll see to it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:25, December 31, 2019 (UTC))
Doesn't seem like a sockpuppet. If signs point out they are indeed the same person then just let me know but until then this account won't be blocked. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:33, December 31, 2019 (UTC))

Bulma page

Hi, I just tried to edit the Bulma page and it did a weird thing. Com,d you revert it? I was only fixing a mistake and it went haywire.

DragonBallZ050 (talk) 09:18, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

Okay. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:10, January 1, 2020 (UTC))


Why did you undo my edits to the galleries for Bulma, Videl, Master Roshi, Cunbar, Broly (DBS), Fu, and Future Mai?  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  06:39,1/2/2020 

Because the links weren't really needed especially when nobody really puts them on headings for sections. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:49, January 2, 2020 (UTC))
Ok well they were needed to get the pages out of the pages without links insight area, that's one of the reasons I added the links, the other reasons were to let everyone know that I am back since I haven't really got a wild hair up my ass to check other users edits yet, and to make it easier for the casual visitor to get to what I linked.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  06:55,1/2/2020 

Another vandal in this wiki found

See this guy's contributions:

He's a vandal and I think he needs to be blocked for good. 2020-chan (talk) 08:51, January 2, 2020 (UTC)

I blocked him infinitely. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:25, January 2, 2020 (UTC))

Sock puppet?

I think User:Dbzfsfan is a Sock puppet of User:Hymnn . Could you look into it? DragonBallZ050 (talk) 15:57, January 2, 2020 (UTC)

He doesn’t seem like a sockpuppet. Make sure you provide your reasoning why you think the user is a sockpuppet or at least provide some evidence to prove it. Don't just go picking out random users as sockpuppets of another user when they could be not. There has to be signs that point a user as a sockpuppet of another based on their behavior, the time they created their account, the way they write, edit or the time they edit, the way they act or even their usernames that maybe similar to another user that is blocked and if it is obvious especially if the sock admits he is sock of another user then you should report it to me. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:33, January 2, 2020 (UTC))
Screenshot 20200103-122539
Well, he only joined a few days ago, just after Hymnn was blocked. This is his oldest post of 5 days, just aftr Hymnn was  blocked DragonBallZ050 (talk) 12:24, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

The time a user joined the wiki doesn't particularly make them a sockpuppet. It also has to be the way they behave or their name that might give them off as a sockpuppet of another user especially if the IP addresss for a suspected sockpuppet is checked by a user with checkuser powers to see if the suspected sockpuppet shares a similar IP address to blocked user that they might be a sockpuppet to. Or if it is revealed by another user with valid evidence that the person is indeed a sockpuppet of a blocked user or the sockpuppet admitted it that they are a sockpuppet of another user. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 12:36, January 3, 2020 (UTC))

Reverted Edits

You want to explain why you reverted my edit? Bearing in mind there's a similar statement on the Super Saiyan page, about Toriyama's claim that Super Saiyan is only 10x base form. ShorinBJ (talk) 01:04, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

Fixed it.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:39, January 3, 2020 (UTC))

Well he had assistance from Goku and a few of the Z-Fighters while finishing off Cell. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:55, January 3, 2020 (UTC))

Moderate on Forums

Hey, Sam.

 I was on the Forum and see many places where I can help moderate on there. I wos wondering how that would all           work though. I am a Discussion Moderator, but I don't know how I can help on something like that. I don't know if             that is "Chat Moderator" territory, or if that is "Admin" territory. I would like to know of any way that I can help. If you         would leave me a message on how this works. I know it's in the rules, but my sister says something about "Chat               mods" having control. I'm just hoping to figure out a way to help, or what I can do to help keep the peace.                                                                                                   As always, Thanks! Ya Boi King Kai (talk) 06:23, January 3, 2020 (UTC)Ya Boi King Kai 1-3-20

Discussions moderators can also moderate on forums as well and also have chat moderator powers by default. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 06:28, January 3, 2020 (UTC))

Afflilate with other wikis

Can we affiliate with other wikis If we can, is it okay to reference other wikis or sites Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Master Winston (talk) 15:02, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not a bad idea. But, since he's busy so he cannot reply you now. Thanks. BatucanClouden Revives (talk) 02:34, January 18, 2020 (UTC)


Hey, Sam It's me again (Ya Boi King Kai) I know you must be getting tired of hearing from me, but I have something I need to talk to you about. There is a user, JHG333400, who is deadset on using curses that are very inapropriate. Here is one of his pages. I already deleted it, and another, and another (it wasn't really for cursing, but was antagonizing. I already deleted the others and can't get to them, but he is also reporting other users for no reason whatsoever. I look at the posts that he is reporting and find nothing wrong with them. I believe he is trying to cause trouble, but don't know what we can do besides deleting his posts, so that is what I do. I leave the rest in your hands. Have a blessed day! Ya Boi King Kai (talk) 02:51, January 4, 2020 (UTC)Ya Boi King Kai 1-3-20

I left him a warning. If he does it again let me know and I will block him. And Thanks have a blessed day too (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 03:06, January 4, 2020 (UTC))

Yeah, I've just come across his posts with a load of profanities. Should I delete all of his posts? DragonBallZ050 (talk) 11:24, January 4, 2020 (UTC)

No just delete the ones that have profanity. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:22, January 4, 2020 (UTC))


You blocked my account all because Im editing the LSJ2 article, specifically the statement that says Broly's hair is spiker possibly due to being emotionally unstable; laughable. Provide a source for that statement because there is absolutely NO offical source I can find that states a Super Saiyan 2' s hair is spikier due to them being emotionally unstable. You even said "possibly". Stop using your own head canon and passing it off as facts, and blocking accounts on some childish shit.

Broly being an emotionally unstable Super Saiyan 2 makes his hair spikier??? Who said that???? Wheres the official source???? Also, Broly only obtaining the SSJ2 form in only card games makes it virtually impossible to know if he's even emotuoanlly unstable or not.....?Faiquan (talk) 17:56, January 4, 2020 (UTC)

I didn't block your account specifically because of the LSS2 argument. I blocked it because users are only supposed to use 1 account to prevent possible sockpuppetry if their alt. or main account gets blocked. I never said "possibly", I only said that is for Broly's version of the LSS2 but then again after looking through it I guess there is no concrete evidence that states that so it is only speculation and must be removed since it is not sourced. My bad for reverting your edits. I admit I was wrong. But I didn't block your account because of the dispute about Broly's hair being spikier as a LSS2. I left the reason in your talkpage why I had to block your alt. account. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:09, January 4, 2020 (UTC))

Ok, I actually was unaware of the fact a user of this wiki can only have 1 account. The only reason I made the 2nd account is because I had difficulty logging into this one. Didnt want to sound like a-hole about the situation otherwise, it wasn't that serious. I just couldn't find any info about the line I deleted and I hate misinformation being on what is, opinion, the most reliable and accurate Dragon Ball wiki out there (there are a few others). Enjoy your New YearsFaiquan (talk) 21:07, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, same to you. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:06, January 6, 2020 (UTC))

I see that you delete information

I have noticed that deleted a lot of things from Chappil's page and made it super small and short. I see that you deleted so much information that to where the page has become so small that if this was on another wiki Chappil's page would end up being counted as a stub and incomplete.

Honest truth with how much info you deleted that I got from actually literally watching the tournament of power episode. Everything you removed from his page would end up categorizing the page as a stub and I have seen some wiki that really hate having a page with very little info or a page that is nothing but a stub. Why did you turn the page into a stub I watched the english dubs the episodes from the tournament of power so everything I added a the truth I heard and saw in the episode. X-Mutant (talk) 1:18 January 5 2020 (UTC)

The grammar was bad and none of the information you really added the described the personality of the character, it was just telling us for the most part what they were doing which is not how personality sections are supposed to be. You even placed information on a section explaining what a character was doing in the appearance section when that is supposed to be in the biography section. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:28, January 5, 2020 (UTC))

I am trying to send a link to the video you can see it for yourself so you can he his personality and hear the words that he says. X-Mutant Even though I am try to send the link it doesn't seem like a am getting the link correct so it might take some time. I am sure that I typed it correctly now and thst it's working fine now. (talk) 1:39 January 5 2020 (UTC)

Also here is another link to a video where Chappil gets worried about when Hop accidentally attacks Lavender. Hop also gets worried when she realizes that she attacked her teammate. This worry in the video does show that they care for their team members. Watch the video Whis actually confirms that they became selfish when trying to take down Vegeta. Also Hop saying in the video that Vegeta is her prey also proves about the selflessness. This is qlso the same video link where Vegeta says that they are getting full of themselves. Also in the video link I sent to you you can see a shine in Hyssop's normally when see a eyes light up like that it means they were planning something and wait for the right moment to strike. Also in the link of this video Oregano mentions that grab Vegeta with his web attack he the Saiyan prince's defense is down and normally attacking some one when their defense is down that means it is a strategy move waiting for the right moment to strike. I am starting to think that you have never even watched the episodes with the tournament of power if you are deleting the information from the episodes. By the way I am still searching for and finding links that is why the messages are coming up and being posted separately instead of of them all being combined into one. It's going to take a while to bring forward some of the links to thaf have evidence. X-Muant (talk) 2:05 January 5 2020 (UTC)

Words actions the smiles on the faces of the characters in these video do describe the characters personalities everything a person does and ssys are what show someone's personality. Words, actions, decisions and behavior is everything that that make personality and the characters show all of those qualities in the videos that I have sent. In school teachers, students and my hole life family, friends, relatives and my parents have told me when a person shows what they do that is them showing their personality. Everyone I know and close to me has told me that you learn everything from a person by watching what they do. And trust me I am dead serious when I tell you that several people have told me that observing or noticing what a person does gives you a good example of what their personality is like.

I mean what you have just easley displays and shows your personality. So you that what person does their actions, choices and decisions don't show the personality of someone that makes me wonder where did you get your learn and teaching from then if that's the way you think. It also makes think what kind of family and friends you had if you think none of those things are qualities make up the type of personality that someone has. Also I apologize because some of the vides and links I am looking for they are hard to find. X-Mutant (talk) 2:48 January 5 2020 (UTC)

I will look into your edits and see if I made a mistake on reverting them. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:02, January 6, 2020 (UTC))

About Tapion referring to Trunks as his brother...


A brother is a man or boy in relation to other sons and daughters of his parents. Therefore, Tapion called Trunks his brother at the end of the movie because Tapion thought Trunks' smile was somehow similar to Minosha's, which we saw earlier in the film. Therefore... PsychoSSF2 (talk) 21:14, January 5, 2020 (UTC)PsychoSSF2

"Brother" like I explained in your talkpage can also be used to refer to a male pal or friend so why are you completely ignoring what I said and putting your own definition of what it means rather than trying to understand my point of view. You are taking the meaning of when Tapion called Trunks his "brother" too literally and claiming the reason why Tapion called Trunks his brother was because his smile was similar to Minosha's when there is nothing in the movie that points that out or indicates that that was the reason which is entirely your own speculation and not supposed to be in articles as we don’t accept speculation or headcanon here. There is also nothing in the movie that indicates that they are actually blood brothers and there is no evidence to prove that and the family relations sections in the infobox is only put for characters that have a blood or marital relationship with a specific character in an article so the information that you add about Trunks being Tapion's brother is false since Trunks and Tapion are not related and there is no evidence that proves that. It's just like when Future Gohan called Future Trunks his "little brother" after knocking him out to prevent him from fighting the Androids. That was in the dub but I am not sure if that was in the sub. He also called Future Trunks his lil bro after losing his right arm when fighting the Androids with Futuere Trunks and giving him the last Senzu Bean to recuperate Future Trunks after Future Trunks was knocked out while fighting the Androids with Future Gohan. Tell me, would you consider them brothers or blood brothers just because Future Gohan called Future Trunks his brother? No because it is obvious they are brother nor related and there is no source that indicates that they are indeed brothers. So your statement about Trunks being Tapion's brother is false and invalid because it is very obvious that they are not brothers but if there is a source that clearly indicates they are brothers then we list that otherwise.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:35, January 6, 2020 (UTC))

Keep an Eye

Hi, Sam! I'm just giving a Mod Report! (I don't know if the others are, or if it even needs to be done. But, I hope this is okay to do.)

Things are going pretty well on the Discussion Posts. The only eventful mishap was that one post that Ya Boi King Kai had about flipping people off, but you were there. So, I don't need to go into detail.

Users to keep an eye on:


This user had a tendency to break the rules (Language, etc.), but I haven't seen any posts or comments by them lately. LSSF, they were blocked DragonBallZ050 (talk) 12:55, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

Baby Amber:

This user often made off topic posts and comments, but I believe that they are new, and they have been informed on the rules and guidelines and I believe that they have caught along.


This user would make posts and comments that would either be considered as vile, or break the rules. They have been sticking to the rules lately.


This user would break the rules and would troll certain people. They have been informed of the rules and are now following them. As far as I have seen, they have been following the rules after i warned him

Owen Vaunman:

This user made a comment on this post (Who's da better DB Waifu?) saying that another user (Me) is their DB Waifu. It did make me a tad uncomfortable, but nothing ban worthy. Just think we should keep an eye on them and see if any other users report about this.

I hope that this can help the Wiki stay a safe and fun place for everyone. Sorry for the long post.

Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin (talk) 06:53, January 7, 2020 (UTC)Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin, 1-7-2020

Alright, I will. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:06, January 7, 2020 (UTC))

Just a note

Hiya Sam! As LSSF has said on who to keep an eye on, is Hymnn still blocked? DragonBallZ050 (talk) 17:06, January 7, 2020 (UTC) 

Ps, call me joe

Yeah, he's still blocked. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:06, January 7, 2020 (UTC))

SS4 Tail info

Xeno Trunks was going to get SS4, meaning that Half Saiyans born without tails can still acquire the form. How do you think we should note that on the page?? FlatZone (talk) 01:08, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

It should be noted as trivia since Xeno Trunks didn't actually acquire the form. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:10, January 8, 2020 (UTC))

Him not acquiring the form is stated. But the implication, that was never in doubt from their end is that Half Saiyans born without Tails can still acquire the SS4 form. Whether Trunks got SS4 or not the implication is there. FlatZone (talk) 01:14, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

Ask Neff and see what he says.(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:21, January 8, 2020 (UTC))

I'm going to try and add it as was said here. Hopefully I can word it well enough. FlatZone (talk) 21:58, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

Future Trunks

Screenshot 2020-01-08 at 7.45.08 AM
Hey sam, somebody changed the trunks page. Yen (talk) 13:38, January 8, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53
I blocked him infinitely. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:40, January 8, 2020 (UTC))

Cool. Yen (talk) 21:32, January 8, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53


Hi would they're be any chance I could become an admin on the dbz fandom. I really wanna help out and make sure everyone gets along.Beeku super saiyan 01 (talk) 22:05, January 9, 2020 (UTC)

There is 3 now so he will probly say no. He said no to me after the other mod were chosen...

—This unsigned comment was made by BROLYEN53 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

If you want to become an admin on this wiki, you would have to request that to the bureaucrats and let them see and decide if you are suited for the role. However, if you are talking about becoming a discussions moderator, we are full for discussions mods since there is already 3 active mods but if any of the mods have become inactive and need to be replaced, you can request for discussions moderator rights and I will see whether you are suited enough to become a mod. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:54, January 9, 2020 (UTC))


Hey, Sam.

It's me, Ya Boi King Kai. Was on a page having a conversation when one user RODERIUS REED plainly told me to "Shut the F*** up." I deleted the post. Wanted to tell you so you could deal with it as you wish. Here is the link. Deal with it only as you see right. Thanks.

Here is the post.

                                                                                                           Ya Boi King Kai (talk) 23:49, January 9, 2020 (UTC)Ya Boi King Kai 1-9-2020

I left him a warning. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:13, January 10, 2020 (UTC))


Hi sam! Could you please keep an eye on some users please? Thanks! Also, how do i change my signature to a posh one like some users DragonBallZ050 (talk) 12:20, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

Which users are you talking about? For the signature thing you need to ask 10X Kamehameha about that as I don't know how to make those types of sigs of perhaps you can ask Yonedge and see if he can make one for you. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:24, January 10, 2020 (UTC))

Who killed Krillin during the entire Dragon Ball series?

During the entire Dragon Ball series, who killed Krillin? Please list these guys yourself to prove yourself your a Dragon Ball fan! דיין מאמע (talk) 14:34, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

Tambourine, Frieza and Super Buu. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:33, January 10, 2020 (UTC))

Ya Boi King Kai

Hey, Sam.

It's me (Ya Boi King Kai) I just wanted to inform you that I plan to make an off-topic post. I know that off-topic posts are frowned upon, but a rock legend, Neil Peart of the band Rush has recently died or brain cancer. Rush is my favorite band and I won't lie that the loss of this drumming and lyrical genius hurts a little. I wanted to make a sort of tribute, and rememberance post about this musical giant. I hope you're okay with this.

                                                                                                       Ya Boi King Kai (talk) 05:35, January 11, 2020 (UTC)Ya Boi King Kai 1-11-2020

That's fine. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:36, January 11, 2020 (UTC))

I've made a fandom

Hi Sam. I've made a fandom on dragon Ball gt and AF. Could you help? I'll grant you administration perms. Thanks! DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 12:39, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry but no, my main focus and work here is this wiki, and I currently don't feel like contributing to another wiki besides this place at the moment. You can ask some of your friends to help you out with the wiki or perhaps the other active admins here to see if they will agree to help you out. I don't see a reason why you opened a fandom for Dragon Ball GT and AF when we literally have those contents here. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:08, January 11, 2020 (UTC))
Well, I didn't make it. My brother did. And he made me bereaucrat so what do I do? DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 13:11, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

Do like what exactly? (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:18, January 11, 2020 (UTC))

Nvm DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 16:26, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't this wiki be reported to Fandom and closed, since the Dragon Ball Wiki already focuses on these things and other Dragon Ball content. --Mgdodl (talk) 17:30, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Well, it can't because anyone can open a wiki. Many Dragon ball based fandom have not been shut, and mine only focuses on GT and AF Joe is here! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:DragonBallZ050| Enjoy your stay! 19:17, February 14, 2020 (UTC)


Hey, Sam.

Once again, I need to talk to you. (Ya Boi King Kai) I was on a post that Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin made, and we found a toxic user. I have only seen pieces of it, but the user BEEKU2 is getting very hurtful with his words and is attacking the other users. It's horrible. He's telling people that they're "trash" and that thei lives "Isn't important enough" (I guess to apologize) and he even called one of the users a "Piece of Shit" when he even tried to smooth it over. It should be noted that user BEEKU2 is the one who started this and the others were defending Fenn and themselves when things began to escalate. I was thinking about locking the post, here it is BTW and probably will. I just wanted to let you know. And also ask if maybe you can go a little easier on the other users who got sucked in by defending Fenn who was essentailly called stupid. I can understand disagreeng with the post, but what was comming from that user was cruel and is now to the point of banning if I were you. However, you are the admin and I am only a Mod. Do as you see fit. I am now going to lock the post. Sorry Fenn.

                                                                                             Ya Boi King Kai (talk) 06:58, January 12, 2020 (UTC)Ya Boi King Kai   /1-12-2020

I've just found out most of his things are off topic or profane, and his posts only started 11hrs ago. Should I delete all of his posts? DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 07:45, January 12, 2020 (UTC) ps- hey king kai

I blocked him for 1 week. Just delete the ones that are profane. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 09:08, January 12, 2020 (UTC))
That's most of them. Have you blocked beeku super saiyan 01. He's saying he's been blocked DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 09:46, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Placement of Heroes biographies

Isn't the DBH info supposed to be split now, with manga info going in the main bio and game info going in other stories? That's why I split them on Mechikabura's page.

Dominodalek (talk) 11:33, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

My Fault, I didn’t see that. I fixed it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:57, January 12, 2020 (UTC))

Only Dark Demon Realm Saga is supposed to be split, since it's completely different between manga and games, everything else goes in main bio since it's almost completely the same. --Neffyarious (talk) 17:23, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Surely that would end up looking messy, if the first half of the bio is buried in a separate section below the second half. It also perpetuates the problem that many of the biographies mix together the various media (anime, manga, game, trailers) and often don't make the sources clear. Dominodalek (talk) 18:11, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

BEEKU2 Sockpuppet


Block Beeku3. He has just admitted being a Sockpuppet of beeku2 DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 12:56, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

His sock has an infinite ban while I increased his BEEKU2's ban to 3 weeks for abusing multiple accounts. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:57, January 12, 2020 (UTC))
Well, in my opinion, the block for BEEKU2 should be infinite: on my wiki if you come in with another account after being blocked results in an infinite ban. Thanks though! Plus, I did ask 10x to make me a custom signature. How was winter vacation? DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 16:00, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Alright. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:12, January 12, 2020 (UTC))

Also, could you archive my talk page? DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen (talk) 16:02, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Okay I will see if I can archive your talk. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:12, January 12, 2020 (UTC))


the season pass for dragon ball kakarot isn't in the collector's edition in the US. it's UK exclusive so I edited it —This unsigned comment was made by Adianj (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Okay. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:01, January 14, 2020 (UTC))

Gogeta's page

On the main page the Gogeta page has whis on it. —This unsigned comment was made by Forsaken2 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

A user named JHG388400 had vandalized the page and added the Whis photo as the first picture to Gogeta's infobox labeled under Gay boi which is why you see the Whis picture for Gogeta's page in the discussions post. I reverted his vandalism and ended up blocking him for a period of time for vandalizing an article. I'm sure after a while that the photo for Gogeta's page in the discussions post will come back with Gogeta's photo again and fix itself. If any of you users notice another user that suspiciously acts like him after I blocked him then let me know. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:07, January 14, 2020 (UTC))

BEEKU3 and 2020 Chan

I dont know if you can do anything about this but, BEEKU3 (who is blocked) And 2020 Chan found JHG On Youtube and told him to kill himself. 2020 Chan and BEEKU3 are from this fandom. I have encounterd them both if proof is needed. Just wanted to let you know. {{SUBST:User:BROLYEN53/sig2}} 21:36, January 15, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53

No problem. Just tell them that I said not to harass other users even while not on this site or else I would have to increase BEEKU's block while 2020 chan you can tell him that I left him off with a warning though I don't know myself either if I am meant to solve issues outside of this wiki though you can contact the other admins as I believe they know more than I do regarding this. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:06, January 15, 2020 (UTC))

Ok. Havent seen 2020Chan in a while but I'll let them know. Thanks for being calm abot this. I know we have been talking about JHG a lot. {{SUBST:User:BROLYEN53/sig2}} 02:01, January 16, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53

No problem. Anytime I can help. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 04:36, January 16, 2020 (UTC))


JHG didn't make a sock puppet account. his other account got lost. could you please put his ban time back too 1 month. considering that this is his first bad violation it shouldn't be forever since you have given others chances. He didn't mean to be rude. —This unsigned comment was made by Forsaken2 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Well making a new account after knowing very well that you are blocked on a different account in this wiki and still editing or accessing certain things in this wiki under an alternate name/account is considered sockpuppetry as he posted a discussion post not too long ago while knowing he was blocked here on a different account so that is sockpuppetry regardless of what his intentions were and I had no choice but to block his alternate account because he was using a different account here while being blocked and if he knew he made another account because he apparently lost access to his other account and he wasn’t trying to sockpuppet as that is what it seems he was doing, then he should've told me about that to let me know he is using a different account but still do his 4 month block in his new account that he got in his old account but did he do that no. So as an admin, I am only left thinking that he created his new account for the sole purpose of sockpuppeting as sockpuppetry is a common thing in most wikias and he did use his new account here while being blocked on a different account so regardless it is still sockpuppeting and I had to block his sockpuppet account infinitely while pushing his ban in his main account to 6 months. Due to this, I have come to the conclusion that he intentionally made a sockpuppet to bypass his block and so I don’t believe him at all in the slightest even he says what he says because he is not giving me any proof of this and I believe he is lying to you because most users who get blocked and make sockpuppets generally make sockpuppets to bypass a block from a different/previous account they were in so it wouldn’t be a surprise if he did it for that purpose even if he claims he didn’t do it for that or try to go off as completely different user under a different account with an entirely different name to completely decieve other users to bypass a block. He will be blocked in his main account for 6 months due to not informing me he was going under a different account because he lost access to the old account he got blocked in and sockpuppeting. His sockpuppet account remains infinitely blocked. Case closed.

(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:06, January 15, 2020 (UTC))

Users to watch over

Hi, Mr. Sam! I'm back with this weeks Mod Report!

Things are going pretty well on the Discussion Posts. The only eventful mishap was the Theory Post I made about Broly, but you heard about that, so I don't need to go into detail.

Users to keep an eye on:


This user wrote: "Stop giving these INAPPROPRIATE IMAGES I’m 10 years old." On a Post mad by Forsaken2. The images were, like, a chubby Vegeta and Gogeta and stuff. Crude, but not rule breaking, I don't believe. I am unsure what this Wiki's age policies are, but I did some reading and I believe you must be at least 13 years of age to have an account. This is a relatively safe website and all, but I believe the kid is just too young. His profile pic is also himself, I believe. The Post by Forsaken2 was called mhm. Here is the link. mhm  

Doubletrunks (They used to be called "Cowmoosic"): They are under the age of 13, as well. They said that they will be taking time off and only be on every few months until they are a teen. Once again, I do not know the age policies of this Wiki, and the people on here don't do I say his...creepy? But I'm giving you a heads up. Here is a link to the post where he mentioned his age. A break from the fandom


I could be COMPLETELY wrong, but it was highly suspect in my opinion. I believe that this user may be BEEKU2, or another blocked user who returned on a sockpuppet account. Their post just seemed...strange. Here is the link. NoThIn suspicious here....

I hope that this can help the Wiki stay a safe and fun place for everyone. Sorry for the long post. Have a great week, Sam!

P.S. I forgot to sign! I am sorry! This is Fenn, and it is 1/16/2020! Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin (talk) 07:44, January 16, 2020 (UTC) Sorry for the hassle!

No problem. I already had blocked RODERIUS REED a few days ago for being underage. As for Double Trunks, he is seems underage as well so I would have to block his account for a period of time until it expires in the age that he would be turning 13. As for BakuGoron, I don't know for sure if he is a sock puppet so you might want to ask Neffyarious if he is an alternate to BEEKU2 since Neff is a wiki manager and can check different users IPs to see if they are a possible sock to another account so I would advise you to ask Neff if it is not clear if he is indeed a sockpuppet to BEEKU2. Also ask Neff if User:Tappedyute is a sock puppet of User:Hymnn as I kind of was suspecting them to be sockpuppets though I'm not sure as they act totally different with one being nice while the other is mean but when asked for their FighterZ ID they both said Bajung8f which was strange considering they act totally different. DragonBallZ050 was even suspecting as sockpuppets as well. Because of their distinct personalities I couldn't block them as I wasn't sure. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 11:58, January 16, 2020 (UTC))

JHG's ban

I'm sorry Soguawu17 that I could not acces ur talk page Plz put me tuoo my OG ban I don't want to break any rules since I lost my account plz no assuming dis aint a sok pupit(JHG348080 (talk) 23:15, January 16, 2020 (UTC))

I'm sorry I couldn't alert you I tired but my stoopid chromebook won't work.  JHG348080 (talk) 23:26, January 16, 2020 (UTC)

Hey Sosuagwu why can I still upvote and post I have not posted but I can infrence that I can plz don't call me a sock puppet I know u were going of instinct as u can tell I cut back on the swearing because I might get blocked can you tell me what's happening please 

Your's truly,

(JHG348080 (talk) 23:29, January 16, 2020 (UTC))

(Sorry for putting another post but theres alot I want to say)

I know know hw hard it is to make a page on a wiki (Since I have been trying to make a Dragon ball Kakarot wiki) and I see know why vandalism of wiki's is so bad. I can't Imagine all the work I've done just to get it deleted for a meme just want to let you know that I understand.

(I hope you don't think I'm being sarcastic)

With Respect,

(JHG348080 (talk) 23:34, January 16, 2020 (UTC))

(Last one I promise)

I want to say that I won't be posting anything until you say otherwise becuz I have the ability to but I don't want to be classified as a sock puppet you have no other choice other than to assume [Since other fools have done it] that I'm trying to make asock puppet but I wouldn't brake tthe rules espeically after the block

First you vandalize a page and got blocked for it which is in every shape or form an offense for behaving like a troll and as a consequence I will treat you like a troll until you have learned your lesson as sometimes edits come in each page fast so sometimes it is hard for me to check users edits all at once and I sometimes miss pages that get blatantly vandalized and it's really annoying considering pages are supposed to be not vandalized and are supposed to be read by the viewers even children that come here. If there is someone who wants to behave like a troll and vandalize pages, why risk having that troll around to vandalize pages even more. Then you go back and create a sockpuppet in hopes of evading your ban. If you truly lost your account or lost access to your account, why didn't you disclose this information to me so I can see what I can do with your account instead of completely ignoring your block and creating an alternate account to continue to post things knowing very well you were blocked under a different. That is sockpuppeting whether you accept it or not and after facing the consequence then you want to beg me to be more lenient on you and reduce you ban. Where is the proof that you apparently lost your account. Do you know you can search for your account here or go to the user's block list to find the main account you were using before you transitioned over to your other accounts so I don't think you lost your account. If anything you might've lost access to your account which can be easily fixed by creating a new password for your account so that fandom can send you an email for a new password for your account so I don't think you lost your account. Until you provide me proof you are sockpuppeting and that is against the rules here. This is what every or most users do when they try to evade their bans even if they don't want to admit that they are sockpuppeting so I don't believe you. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:49, January 16, 2020 (UTC))

21 Kakarot

21Kakarot (2)

So I added this imageto 21's page, I hope that's okay. Sorry for not asking before hand, I haven't been here in a while and I'm not too keen on how spoilers are handled. Pour me a glass, bub. (talk) 00:21, January 17, 2020 (UTC)

The picture is fine. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:22, January 17, 2020 (UTC))
Thank you!! Pour me a glass, bub. (talk) 00:25, January 17, 2020 (UTC)

No probs. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:26, January 17, 2020 (UTC))


Hey, Sam.

It's me, (Ya Boi King Kai). I am leaving this message to talk about User JHG348080 and his ban. Recently he was banned for vandalizing a page (which I think was just and fair) but there is something that he said that I wanted to show you. Here it is. He wanted me to pass it along.


The reason i can't access my account is cuz I left my chrome book in my English class (becuz i use it for school and this as well as other stuff which can be proven when u look through my past posts of me and foresaken talking about how we use our school chromebooks). I went to get it only to find out it had been reset by two other students. I swear to God I couldn't get my account back (I'm not really supa religous but when I swear to god I MEAN IT) When I got home I tried to get on the DBFS fandom but I realised my accountwas blocked so when I tried to sign in the school had blocked it for no reason. So I used a url browser and got onto here and made a new account. I tried to tell his talk page but becuz of IP i couldn't tell him. so to see if I could post I just made a post called g and it worked so I tried to edit it and I @'d Sosuagwu17 to make sure he saw it but Now the IP had caught up and said I could not edit. This is when everyone thought I made a sock puppet I tired to explain but it was no use I was banned inifintley. So I explained to my pal Forsaken2 and He understood so did BROLYEN53. That's when Forsaken2  made the post free jhg. But Sosuagu17 didn't beleive it. So i made a new account (This one to access his talk page). Which I mad stupid post apoligizing and not getting to the dang point like I should've. I saw the talk page for me and tried to use it to reply to him and tell him the truth but I was already blocked so the edit went away. That brings us here me trying to spread the truth but Sosuagwu17 needs more evidence, If i need to I will upload a video showing that I can't access it. BTW on the url browser u can't use sign in so I had to use register. That's why I didn't just sign back in also I don't remember my password 100% but I can see it in my notes on my phone I just can't use sign in cuz of the url browser.

These are his words. If it is at all true, he might not have known about the ban, nor was it his intent to make a sock puppet. I don't know how true it is, and I am by no means asking you lift his ban, but I do want to make a request that if he and Forsaken2 are telling the truth, then we should consider lowering his ban back to the originally set time of (I think you said it was 4 months?) It would be my recomendation to make the 4 months ban on both user names so that if it is true that he lost his original, then he can still get on. I hope I enterpreted his message right. This is your decision to make as you have all the facts and I am just looking on from the sidelines. Thanks for your time!

                                                                                                           Ya Boi King Kai (talk) 03:35, January 17, 2020 (UTC)Ya Boi King Kai 1-16-2020

I lowered his ban to a week as he was pardoned and this was his fist offense. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 03:42, January 17, 2020 (UTC))

Off-topic: couldn't Christ didn't encourage boxings?

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Hey Sosuagwu17, let's talking about other non-Dragon Ball movies. I stumbled upon a YouTube movie reviews of an recent Korean religious movie "Divine of Fury". One of the scene where an boxer's back have the religious logo. I'm sure that Christ discourage boxings because the Christians thinks violence are sin, so what did you think, HUH? BatucanClouden Revives (talk) 12:12, January 17, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah pretty much. Though the Christian people who box probably don't view boxing as violence but rather a sport so they probably think they are not committing a sin in the name of the bible. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:43, January 17, 2020 (UTC))
Oh so the creator of this movie and also the actor who played that boxer didn't make much sense now. Beating a Christian to die is not worth than a shedding the blood of a Buddha and killing an Arhat, which is one of the Anantarika-karma. BatucanClouden Revives (talk) 02:19, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Interesting fact there you told me. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:26, January 18, 2020 (UTC))

Block this user

Hiya Sam. Can you block User:Your all trash69 as he has 2 other accounts blocked by 0551E80Y and he came back. Thanks! DragonBallZ050 20:19, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Done. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 20:21, January 18, 2020 (UTC))

spam accounts

Hiya Sam. On the kakarot spinoff post, a bunch of users with only one post have put all vegeta. Could you help please! Joe aka DragonBallZ050 14:24, January 19, 2020 (UTC)

Sure. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:50, January 19, 2020 (UTC))


I told Neffyarious (I don't know if I spelled that right) about the possible sock puppets. Sorry about pestering you again, Sir. Have a blessed day! Fenn 1-20-2020 Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin (talk) 05:26, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

Okay thanks. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 05:37, January 20, 2020 (UTC))

Edit issues

So a couple people have come to me about something similar in the past day or so, so I may as well bring it up now.

Firstly, Creepy said you undid his edit about Goku's hair growing longer as a Super Saiyan 2? I can't say I've ever noticed or read anywhere that it was supposed to grow for anyone, just stand up more and become spikier. Any reason why you undid that?

My fault, I thought the hair grew for SS2 as Saiyan transforms into SS1 to SS2 but I guess I was misinformed but Creepy needs to provide an explantion whenver he removes information just like when he needs me to explain a reversion because another user may think otherwise. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 09:47, January 30, 2020 (UTC))

Secondly, Bubble Revolution said you undid his edit about Parzan being from Earth. I just looked on the List of Dr. slump characters on the proper Wikipedia and it doesn't say anything about him being from another planet so again was there a reason you undid that because he says that's wrong. There was something similar with another character Bubibinman too.

You're probably going to need to explain in the summary if you undo peoples edits because it's confused them as to why it was done. It is your local hero, Bullza! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:Bullza| Let me know `

Well I checked and looked in the Dr. Slump and it stated that Parzan was from Okakaumeboshi so I just assumed he was a member of that race. Don't worry, I reverted them back to BubbleRevolution's corrections so it has all been settled. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 09:47, January 30, 2020 (UTC))


Hi Sam. Do you want me to make you a signature? Joe is here! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:DragonBallZ050| Enjoy your stay! 13:08, January 30, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I was trying to make one for myself. I'd be happy to be made a signature. Thanks. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:24, January 30, 2020 (UTC))


With all due respect, I don't feel its right that you are insisting on leaving things from the older DBZ fandom. We should be catering to the new generation that is more informed. It's very inconsistant to have accurate terms and names used in this wiki then have something from a decade ago still being accepted. TheCreepy904 (talk) 13:20, January 30, 2020 (UTC)

Even so I feel it should be worth noted somewhere since it was a widely used term among the dbz fanbase and has history of usage with the fans while we still add information for the new generation of the fanbase. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:19, January 30, 2020 (UTC))


With your request that I keep a closer watch over things, I was under the belief that you wanted me to do so when you took your break, that's why I have not been doing so - as you haven't gone on break. --Neffyarious (talk) 13:00, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

My bad. I just thought you weren't checking the pages well so I decided to come back to do it and I was nervous that pages might be messed up without me their seeing it so I decided to come back. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 13:57, January 31, 2020 (UTC))

Alright, well tell me when you are gonna go on break - if you still are - and I'll make sure and check the pages. --Neffyarious (talk) 15:01, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Can you have a look at this and tell me what you think? It is your local hero, Bullza! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:Bullza| Let me know 17:29, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Okay. Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  20:33,2/1/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan


Got tho this page User:Soauagwu17/sig Joe is here! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:DragonBallZ050| Enjoy your stay! 16:50, February 1, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. (Sosuagwu17 16:57, February 1, 2020 (UTC))

Your meant to put it in your preferences as source code. —This unsigned comment was made by DragonBallZ050 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I know. Thanks. I already made my own signature.

Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  20:00,2/1/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin

Hello, Mr. Sam!

I am Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin and I have been a Discussions Moderator since December 29, 2019 and the first Mod of the newcomers. I came to ask if I could become a temporary Admin to oversee the Discussion Posts until 0551E80Y returns. I believe that I will be able to handle the responsibility, as I am an Admin on Weebipedia. I would only stick to the Discussion Posts and stay away from the Wiki, and if I must ban a user, I would always let the other Admins know whenever I have to do so. I always strive to keep this Fandom a safe and enjoyable place for everyone. If I am passed up, I completely understand. There are a fair number of people who have asked, I imagine. Thank you very much for your time, and have a blessed day! I have left a message regarding this on the Talk Pages the other Admins (Except for Prince Zarbon, since he said that he would be inactive), since this would be a joint decision between the Main Admins. I didn't leave a message on 0551E80Y or Yonedge's page, either. 2/1/2020   Fenn is here! For help, message me hereUser talk:Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin, Have a blessed day! 04:17, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

For Admin promotions, you need to request that to the Bureaucrats like 10X and Bullza but I wouldn’t mind for an admin working in the discussions side until Aussieboy comes back since he has been inactive for the past couple of months so I would agree that you could become an admin but this is something you need to discuss with the bureaucrats mainly since they have the power to promote users as admins. Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  04:46,2/2/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

Content Mod

Could you make me a content mod? Thanks. Joe is here! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:DragonBallZ050| Enjoy your stay! 17:30, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

No I can't. You'd have to request that to the bureaucrats. Why exactly do you want to be made a content moderator if you are mainly a discussions moderator? You do not need content moderator rights to work in discussions or the social side of the wiki. Are you asking just because Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin was promoted as admin? If that's the case I would be against that since we already have enough admins working in the content side of the wiki that we don't need a content moderator to help us. After all, I'm here.Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  17:37,2/2/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

Really, I just want to help as much as possible. If not, that's okay. I'll just contribute normally instead Joe is here! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:DragonBallZ050| Enjoy your stay! 17:39, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

You can ask Bullza, Tenny or Neff for their opinions and see what they say.Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  17:43,2/2/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

Could you do a Sig for me like yours? Joe is here! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:DragonBallZ050| Enjoy your stay! 19:01, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

Maybe later. Kind of busy. Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  20:58,2/2/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

Super Dragon Ball Heroes

Both Super Dragon Ball Heroes manga are starting and a new one is replacing it. I saw you made this page

Was this supposed to be from the final chapter that came out supposedly yesterday? It is your local hero, Bullza! Have any questions? Talk here at User talk:Bullza| Let me know 20:49, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

I believe so.

Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  21:02,2/2/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

English title cards

Hey, I see you're reverting back the english titles to their TV version, I thought we were keeping and updating them to their home release version, are we not? Erstcooked (talk) 20:53, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

Changed my mind on a few things since we don’t have the complete blue-rays for the titlecards but if you can be able to upload 117-131 that would be fine but please don't add or move anything until I say it is okay or I feel it is okay because I didn’t tell you to move or add anything. I only told you to upload the images. That's why I'm changing it back to the TV or Funimation streaming of the titles since I now got rid of the adult swim watermarks and uploaded them as new versions of the images.Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  21:13,2/2/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

Sorry if it bothered you but I thought you were saying that we should update the first 117 episodes to what they were named in their home release version and then wait until we have the final title cards for the last ones to also update them. —This unsigned comment was made by Erstcooked (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I have a question about the Korean dub.

Hey Sosuagwu17, I have a question about the Korean dub. The Korean dub is have censorship, such of Japanese texts translated into Korean ones, and many you know? Tell me if you watched the Korean dub! WuhanVirusDude (talk) 09:29, February 3, 2020 (UTC)

No I haven't.Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  09:30,2/3/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

So Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot didn't released in South Korea due to 2019 Japan-South Korea dispute? WuhanVirusDude (talk) 09:47, February 3, 2020 (UTC)

I don’t know.

Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  09:48,2/3/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan


Hey sam, I was trying to log in to this acc. and it wouldn't let me in. I thought I was gone forever or like banned,so I didn't make a sockpuppet. But it opend up as soon as I mande the Yensavage acc. NOT A SOCKPUPPET. But can you infinite ban the YenSavage acc? Thanks {{SUBST:User:BROLYEN53/sig2}} 23:45, February 3, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53

Sure. Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  10:52,2/4/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan

I'm admit that I'm is.

I am not revealing this until today. I revealed that I'm the sockpuppet of JibanyanPepe. Please block me for an infinite time now. Regards I will disable my Fandom account soon. 2020-chan (talk) 08:02, February 4, 2020 (UTC)

Okay. You shouldn't be vandalizing pages. Due to admitting that you are a user that I blocked infinitely, you will now bd blocked infinitely. If it is discovered that you are using multiple subsequent accounts here, they will be blocked infinitely as well. Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan Sosuagwu17userpage Sosuagwu17usertalk  Sosuagwu17contribs  10:54,2/4/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan


That's like listing gunslinger as an occupation to a hitman, but whatever. --Mohicans Mahalo~! 00:16, February 10, 2020 (UTC)

Questions regarding to the Vietnamese dub

I thought Vietnam only airs Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z Kai and as well as The Final Chapters but the pages says Vietnam airs the original Dragon Ball Z anime. Did you think it so? PloopyIdiot (talk) 09:39, February 11, 2020 (UTC)

That's my mistake, sorry u, kkk Duy goby (talk) 12:28, February 15, 2020 (UTC)

Gravity Bash

Can I add the Dragon ball legends gravity bash to the page Gravity bash?

Budokai 3 Story reenactment edits?

How come you removed my update on the page if it's an accurate one because I did my research before posting it and Krillin does fight Captain Ginyu while he's using Goku's body so I don't know why it was removed?

I'd understand if it was inaccurate for the removal but since it's accurate and it was removed I don't understand why you'd remove it.

So very sorry if I'm sounding rude I'm not trying to be I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the situation is all. LettersFrom (talk) 22:46, February 15, 2020 (UTC)

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