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Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm not sure just how busy I'll be with Dragon Ball Wiki, but you'll definitely see me around more often again. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Vixen Windstorm|<span style="color:#DEB887;">'''Storm'''</span>]] [[Image:Z Ball.svg|17px]] [[User talk:Vixen Windstorm|<span style="color:#7BA05B;">'''talk'''</span>]] <span style="color:#7BA05B;">'''–'''</span> [[User:Vixen Windstorm#Projects|<span style="color:#7BA05B;">'''projects'''</span>]]</span> 19:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm not sure just how busy I'll be with Dragon Ball Wiki, but you'll definitely see me around more often again. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Vixen Windstorm|<span style="color:#DEB887;">'''Storm'''</span>]] [[Image:Z Ball.svg|17px]] [[User talk:Vixen Windstorm|<span style="color:#7BA05B;">'''talk'''</span>]] <span style="color:#7BA05B;">'''–'''</span> [[User:Vixen Windstorm#Projects|<span style="color:#7BA05B;">'''projects'''</span>]]</span> 19:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
== Try rewording the 10x Kamehameha and other techniques ==
I'll help along with you. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 21:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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--Dekoshu 19:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC) Why did you edit what I typed in Omega Blaster?

I'm sorry, but I liked what it was before you edited it. Besides, I started that page with my old account but it was deleted, so I decided to make another one. Sorry.

Dekoshu 20:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC) I'm sorry too, but try to be considerate to the other editors. I humbly accept your apology, SS2AJB.

Dekoshu 20:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC) I am going to add more details and info for Omega Blaster (I honestly loved its name and what it can do and its speed!!!!! :) :P :D). I see that it was deleted, huh?

Dekoshu 20:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC) You forgot to start Broly's other attacks page.

SS2AJB You mean Broly's Eraser Cannon and Blaster Shell?

SS2AJB I don't really have much to say about them. When I start new articles, I usually gather the information from in Dragonball Z moments the topic is used and other articles that mentions the topic I'm about to start and edit. I also use some pictures to help with the descriptions.

Should I help you there? And (in M.Bison's voice) YES!!! YES!!! But you read every page I posted to you, right?

SS2AJB Umm... What does it mean when you post a page to somebody?

Dekoshu 09:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Pardon me, but I saw an arrogant user named Nonoitall and really seems to bugs the others. He thinks he knows all about opinionated thought, yet I wanted to help out the others. He think he's all perfect, yet he isn't, and he isn't thinking about it. I think he isn't considerate to all of the editors. He just screws up their hard work and their clear understanding. I met much more considerate and kind people than this know-it-all snob and cruel Nonoitall.

SS2AJB Tell me about it. When I was editing Gohan's article , I was adding a little more description about his Super Saiyan 2 form. Then Nonoitall comes along and erases everything I wrote. That inconsiderate jerk. Dekoshu 16:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC) He even edited out my edit about Goku, Vegeta, Final Shine, and the others. "Lethally" and "vast" are better than "great" and "deadly". It's a fact/truth. Lethally means "deadly, and "vast" means "very great". I was posting something to him, but then I erased it.

Dekoshu 16:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Goku can REALLY move and fight at lightspeed and beyond. I think Nonoitall just underestimating Goku's true capabilties(such moving at lightspeed) by removing it and considered it "opinionated" thought.

SS2AJB What can I say? We edit something, he erases it, and writes it his way.

Dekoshu 16:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC) That's the problem!!!!! >:( I mean come on! Gogeta truly surpasses even NON-DBZ characters such as Naruto. I'm sorry, but it's quite true. But that's a good thing.

Also, I want to say that DBZ and Bleach are my favorite animes to watch. I saw the way they fight and I knew that they can surpass them. I love Goku and Ichigo.Dekoshu 00:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello?! It's been a few days and you you haven't respond to my comments. Dekoshu 00:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

SS2AJB Sorry I was busy working on some DBZ BT3 replays. I was working on the energy struggles in DBZ history like Goku's Kamehameha vs Vegeta's Galick Cun or Gohan's Father-Son Kamehameha vs Cell's Solar Kamehameha. That sorta thing. I was pretty much busy that I didn't really have time.

Dekoshu 01:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Okay then. Well, those you mentioned are powerful. DBZ:BT3 is a vast game for me. What about the previous comments like how Gogeta surpasses even Non-DBZ characters?

SS2AJB I think Gogeta pretty much surpasses non-dbz characters by a long shot in his SSJ4 form. I think if non dbz characters fight him, SSJ4 Gogeta would beat the crap outta them.

Dekoshu 01:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Of course. He's Gogeta, the VERY STRONGEST Dragonball character in the DB Series. He has MORE than just Big Bang Kamehameha. He also has MORE unused moves in fact. Even Vegetto pwns Non-DBZ characters.

SS2AJB Hey do you think if Vegito went SSJ4, he and SSJ4 Gogeta would be evenly matched?

Dekoshu 02:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Yes. They would be evenly matched. LOL, they might realize that it would be pointless to continue fighting to see who's better and agree that they're extremely great in almost everything. Then they find someway(like a wish from the Dragonballs) and decide to fuse into Govetto/Vogeku, A fusion being so immensely powerful that he can EASILY destroy galaxies, Solar Systems, a multiverse/omniverse and he would be an exceedingly powerful fusion character that lasts forever, due to the Potaras he's wearing, but it would be harder than diamonds, lol.

Oh. You missed Blaster Meteor, the ultimate move from Dragonball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2 and Broly's Eraser Cannon is also named Blaster Shell. Dekoshu 23:27, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

SS2AJB I don't have that game so I don't know what it looks like.

I have that game and it looks devastating. Haven't you respond to the long list of Gogeta and Vegetto? Also even the most powerful beings like Broly and Goku can own NON-DB/Z/GT characters and so will Vegeta. Dekoshu 13:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

It's based on how high their power levels are (including characters not from the Dragonball Universe). Dekoshu 19:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


I would like to say that you are a good person and so am I. I watched Bleach and DBZ and I loved them much more than Naruto. DBZ is the very best anime I ever watched I really liked DBZ:GT. DBZ and Bleach >>>>> Naruto. Dekoshu 20:31, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Dekoshu 01:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC) I really want to talk to you, SSJ2AJB. What is with you? :( I still haven't got any messages from you.

SS2AJB Okay, here's the thing. Last summer my mom, brother, and I went to our grandma's house (she has a swimming pool) and we said hi to our cousins there. When we got back, I couldn't find my PS2 memory card (I brought it along with some other games). I was really sad all that hard work was gone. My parents got me a new one and recently I've been trying to remake my data. It's just that I've been pretty busy and I'm really sorry that I haven't been talking to you lately.

Dekoshu 01:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC) I'm really sorry to hear that, man. Can you help me with the Broly edits? Oh I was refering to the previous comments above (it's entirely optional.), about Gogeta in Super Saiyan 4, surpassing even the Non-DBZ characters(characters that are NOT from Dragonball, Dragonball Z, or Dragonball GT). But I already got a message from you, saying that Gogeta pretty much surpasses Non-DBZ characters by a very long shot in his SS4/SSJ4 form. I also think if Non-DBZ characters even challenged him, he would severely beat them up like no tomorrow.

SS2AJB That's for sure. For Broly edits I'll upload some images and try to write an article for Eraser Cannon. It may take a little time though.

Dekoshu 01:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Thanks. You're a great user. I hope you get better things from your friends and family.

SS2AJB Thanks Dekoshu. The same goes for you. Well I'd like to talk some more, but I gotta go to bed. I'll try to get at least half of the Eraser Cannon article done tomorrow, promise. Goodnight.

Dekoshu 17:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC) I think even Ichigo Kurosaki beats Non-DBZ characters. And don't forget about Broly's Blaster Shell, Eraser Cannon, Gigantic Press, Gigantic Meteor, and Gigantic Hammer.

SS2AJB Can you help me with some? That sounds like a lot.

Dekoshu 20:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Okay then. I'll help you with some.

Dekoshu 20:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Yes. They would be evenly matched. LOL, they might realize that it would be pointless to continue fighting to see who's better or win and agree that they're extremely great in almost everything. Then they find someway(like a wish from the Dragonballs) to wish that they fuse into Govetto/Vogeku, A fusion being so immensely powerful that he can EASILY/SIMPLY destroy galaxies, Solar Systems, a multiverse/omniverse and he would be an exceedingly powerful fusion character that lasts forever, due to the Potaras he's wearing, but it would be harder than diamonds, lol. He would have Galick Kamehameha, Final Shine Kamehameha, Super Scatter Finger Beam, Universal Spirit Bomb, Big Bang Kamehameha X 500, Big Bang Spirit Bomb, Final Stardust Kamehameha (x800), Super Spirit Cannon, Super Soul Strike, Super Galick Gun, Final Ultimate Impact, Ultra Spirit Sword, Final Shine Flash, Super Final Shine, Super Falcon Punch, Chou Kienzan (Super Destruto Disk), Super Kaioken X1-5000, Ultimate Galick Gun, Super Instant Transmission (Doesn't have to require a signal of ki, and moves faster than light), Super Dragon Fist, Kamehameha x700, Solar Rainbow Kamehameha, and more. Or one of the other (Vegetto SS4 and Gogeta SS4 would continue the fight), then instead of 10 minutes SS4 Gogeta would have becuase of the SS4 Transformation, he would have more than 10 minutes to fight with SS4 Vegetto, then it would result in a draw.

Govetto's power level would be 800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 and moves at superluminal speeds that are quite a lot more faster than the speed of light, and he could have super-ultrastrength that pwns all even the Hulk.

SS2AJB That's a lot of SSJ4 Govetto's techniques and power level description you giving me. I'm sure if he chased himself really fast, he could create a giant tornado that could destroy a lot of galaxies! That would be seriously badass! Any way, how did you like the Eraser Cannon article I set up?

It was perfect!!!!! I give you two thumbs up. Now see my edits on Broly: Gigantic Hammer, Gigantic Press, Trap Shooter and Blaster Meteor. Dekoshu 18:35, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

SS2AJB Those are are some great Broly edits you've got. Nice job, man!

Dekoshu 18:55, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Thank you, SSJ2AJB. I think I should thank you a lot. The abilities above of Govetto will be truly insane to see, and no, Govetto wouldn't even make a giant tornado, he'll make a humongous cyclone, the size of Jupiter.

SS2AJB Or probably the size of the whole solar system.

Dekoshu 19:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Or probably the size of the whole solar system. NOW we're talking!!!! :) I wish I get to see Pan transforming into a Super Saiyan. Oh. I want you to see what I did with Kamehameha and Universal Spirit Bomb. Govetto is vastly glad of us talking about his tremendous potential existence in words. I'll make a power level list here later. Promise, SSJ2AJB. [ [User:SSJ2AJB|SS2AJB]] That sounds great, Dekoshu, but, isn't there power level list article?

Dekoshu 19:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Yes. I know that. I need your help of finding and/or making images for Universal Spirit Bomb, Broly's attacks, and help me categorize Final Shine Attack.

SS2AJB I was looking for Universal Spirit Bomb images on google, but I can't find any.

Dekoshu 20:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Maybe watch the DB:GT episode that shows it.

SS2AJB I know that, but I can't take a picture of it.

Dekoshu 20:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC) I'm very sorry that you can't take a picture of it.

SS2AJB It's okay. Well I've got some other stuff to do, so I'll talk to you later. OK?

Dekoshu 23:32, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Thank you VERY much, SSJ2AJB for the Universal Spirit Bomb image. I'm really thankful for you to do such a thing, which is good.

SS2AJB Your welcome, Dekoshu. If you want to know where I found the image, I found it on

Dekoshu 23:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC) I know about Photobucket. Spirit Bomb, Super Spirit Bomb, and even much more, Universal Spirit Bomb are the very most powerful attacks that ever existed in Dragonball. I truly love Spirit Bomb, it's my most favorite move in the Dragonball Universe and Games. ^_^ :P

SS2AJB My favorite Kamehamehas are Father-Son Kamehameha, Family Kamehameha, Solar Kamehameha, Big Bang Kamehameha, Super Kamehameha, Fast Kamehameha, and 10x Kamehameha. Anyway, remember, I had to take a few days off to do some DBZ Energy Struggles in DBZ BT3?

Dekoshu 14:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC) Yes, I remember about that, it went well for you though. Many of those Kamehamehas(Including Final Kamehameha) are also my most favorite attacks. I love DBZ BT3 Energy Struggles !

SS2AJB Well the ones I'm working on are Goku's Kaio-ken Kamehameha vs Vegeta's Galick Gun, SSJ Goku's Angry Kamehameha vs Full Power Frieza's You Will Die By My Hand, SSJ Goku's Angry Kamehameha vs Final Form Cooler's Supernova, SSJ2 Teen Gohan's Father-Son Kamehameha vs Super Perfect Cell's Solar Kamehameha, SSJ2 Teen Gohan Father-Son Kamehameha vs Full Power Bojack's Galactic Buster, SSJ Adult Gohan's Bros. Kamehameha vs LSSJ Broly's Omega Blaster, and Goku's Super Spirit Bomb vs Kid Buu's Planet Burst.

Dekoshu 16:18, 19 October 2008 (UTC) I had those too!!!

SS2AJB I've been working on other struggles too like SSJ3 Goku's Super Kamehameha vs Kid Buu's Super Kamehameha.

Dekoshu 16:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC) Check my edits on Latest Activity.

SS2AJB Good job editing Space Mach Attack.

Dekoshu 17:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC) I edited more than that. Check on Ultimate Wave, Explosive Grip, Big Bang Burst, Super Spirit Bomb, and Planet Geyser. Also check the entire history of my edits. I can wait for you anytime, and I saw your Broly images. "Falcon Punch!!!!!" I hope you watched my edits, SSJ2AJB.

SS2AJB Wow, you sure have been busy editing some new articles and some old ones. Those articles sure look great. By the way did you know the Planet Geyser was also Dr. Wheelo's Ultimate Blast?

Dekoshu 21:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC) YES! I'll work it right now.

Now for My Power Level List For Bleach and DBZ

I promised that I'll make it one in your discussion page, so I'll do it now. Note: See any mistakes from this list if I make any. But it's what I think:

Dragonball (My list):

  • Goku: Power Level: 800,000,000,000,000
  • Broly: Power Level: Unknown but it's immensely high (?????)
  • Vegeta: 500,000,000,000
  • Krillin: Power Level: 5,000,000
  • Kid Buu: Power Level: 900,000,000,000

My List for Govetto(This is What happens if he exists): Govetto (SS4): Power Level: 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (It's over 9000!!!!!) or 5 googol (100 zeros).

SS2AJB I think it looks it pretty good. I just wish Gohan was in it. But nice job!

Dekoshu 00:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC) I'll put Gohan in right now.

Dekoshu 00:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC) Dragonball (My list (Continues)):

  • Goku: Power Level: 800,000,000,000,000
  • Broly: Power Level: Unknown but it's immensely high (?????)
  • Vegeta: 500,000,000,000
  • Krillin: Power Level: 75,000,000
  • Kid Buu: Power Level: 900,000,000,000
  • Gohan: Power Level: 80,000,000,000
  • Android 18: Power Level: 890,000,000
  • Bardock': 76,800,000
  • Freiza: Power Level: 800,000,000
  • Vegetto: Same as above.
  • Pan: Power Level: 97,000,000
  • Omega Shenron: Power Level: 500,000,000,000
  • Burter: Power Level: 65,000-80,000,000

SS2AJB The list is coming along great. Once again nice job. You still didn't answer the BT3 Struggles though.

Dekoshu 14:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC) I had a lot of DBZ BT3 Energy Struggles.

Dekoshu 20:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC) There was a website, it shows the power level of techniques, like the Universal Spirit Bomb. Its power level is IMMENSELY high.

Hello again, SSJ2AJB

It's been a few days passed this year today. Wanna to talk to me? :)

SS2AJB Sure, what's up? I see you've been editing some new articles. Nice.

Dekoshu 23:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC) Thanks. I'm still helping wikia for the greater good. I gotta say, we had a lot of talking, but that's a good thing :).

SS2AJB Yeah we definitely filled up the page with DBZ stuff. It's good we know these things though. When I was editing some new articles with my old account, I usually started some pages of the versions of the Kamehameha and uploaded some great pics.

Dekoshu 00:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC) Well. We need the one for Super Spirit Bomb.

SS2AJB I'm on it.

Dekoshu 01:31, 22 October 2008 (UTC) I know you can do it, like the Universal Spirit Bomb.

SS2AJB Thanks, I'll do it tomorrow. I gotta go to bed now. Goodnight.

Dekoshu 16:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC) Nonoitall is at it again.

SS2AJB Oh great. What has he done now?

Dekoshu 20:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC) He keeps editing out my Universal Spirit Bomb edits (like taking out words like "very" while it was the very most powerful attack in DBZ but the smallest in Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3. He even said it was a "superfluous adjective", yet it's not. :/

Dekoshu 20:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC) Goku:"Show me your moves!!!!! :P"

SS2AJB Actually I wrote "the smallest version in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3". I just figured to give the attack a little more description. I didn't take out "very" though.

Dekoshu 20:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC) I know. I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about Nonoitall.


Dekoshu 20:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC) I've gotta say, we're still going to have to help each other again. Anyway, wanna talk more about Govetto?

SS2AJB You've given me a lot of description about his techniques and his power levels, but sure.

Dekoshu 21:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC) But first, upload the image to Super Spirit Bomb. You know how to insert to it right?

SS2AJB Yeah, I've been doing it before.

Dekoshu 22:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC) We did it. Thanks a plenty again, SSJ2AJB.

SS2AJB No problem. Couldn't have done it without you.

Dekoshu 23:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC) As a promise, let's talk about Govetto and more, now. Govetto can create a Universal Spirit Bomb in 1 second, by using his own energy. Govetto can litterally One Hit KO you with his finger, looking at you, and do nothing. While many fighters in the great Dragonball Universe can fight, move and attack at lightning speed and/or lightspeed and beyond, Govetto travels and fights at warp speeds.

SS2AJB Didn't you already say he travels at the speed of light.

Dekoshu 21:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC) You got a point. What about the creating a Universal Spirit Bomb in a finger for 1 second then?

SS2AJB Okay, that one's different.

Dekoshu 21:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC) Govetto creates a Universal Spirit Bomb with 1 finger, in 1 second, then he threw it that is the size of a whole solar system. He can create 4 afterimages of himself that can actually blow up on contact to the enemy and attack the enemy, inflicting severe damage to them. I know Govetto can fight at the speed of light and far beyond. Also, in the edit, I'm trying which color numbers and letters gives me green, orange, light yellow, silver, golden, rainbow(if that's possible), and more of them. I got this      , this      , and this      . Also, I need 3 images for Revenge Death Ball please. Thank you very much. Take your time whenever you want.

SS2AJB I'll get started on it soon.

Dekoshu 20:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC) What about the colors?? How can I know if I get the right one?

SS2AJB I'm confused on the colors.

Dekoshu 21:11, 24 October 2008 (UTC) This.       You put in {{, then type in color, then a |, then you put in letters and/or numbers to get the colors you wanted, finally, you put the right one. Like this      .

SS2AJB Hey Dekoshu, you know how you edit infoboxes for different techniques?

Dekoshu 04:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Yes. Aren't you going to Photobucket or other websites to get the images for Revenge Death Ball? It can help other editors what it looks like. Thank you.

SS2AJB I already uploaded them. Anyway, can you make an infobox for Father-Son Kamehameha, Family Kamehameha, Super Kamehameha, Angry Kamehameha, or Fast Kamehameha?

Dekoshu 05:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC) I'll do so then. Make sure you show them in Revenge Death Ball. I made the infobox for Father-Son Kamehameha. Also I know the most of the colors, which shows the true colors of the techniques. Can you add the Revenge Death Ball images please? Thank you. You said they were already uploaded.

Dekoshu 22:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC) I quite appreciate your great efforts for searching the vast and legendary Revenge Death Ball images. :) You did a great job there, SSJ2AJB. Now I'll make the technique infoboxes for them. I also humbly apologize to you for being a little hard on you. Am I being hard on you at any degree? I'm finished with it, but where's the Fire Death Ball one? (?)

SS2AJBAJB I have no idea what it looks like.

Dekoshu 22:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC) I'll tell you now. The Fire Death Ball is a Revenge Death Ball that has a fiery coating, resulting in a more powerful explosion. (It means the Revenge Death Ball is covered in intense flames).

Dekoshu 22:53, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Something odd is going on. I tried to increase the size of both Revenge Death Ball and Final, but it didn't work. Can you do it for me?

SS2AJB I can't do that. Those pictures I uploaded are (145px/109px) by size. I can't increase them because those are the limits. Dekoshu 23:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC) !!!!!.......Okay then. Thanks for asking me though. You forgot about Govetto.

Dekoshu 02:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC) I post this again, but with about him. Govetto creates a Universal Spirit Bomb with 1 finger, in 1 second, then he threw it that is the size of a whole solar system. He can create 4 afterimages of himself that can actually blow up on contact to the enemy and attack the enemy, inflicting severe damage to them. I know Govetto can fight at the speed of light and far beyond. He CAN stay in the sun for 5 days, without burning, and sleep there. His Falcon Punch can smash the entire universe with no problem.

SS2AJB Yeah and I'm sure if he lightly punched the sun it would destroy the entire Solar System. Dekoshu 05:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC) Govetto is so powerful, that he made even all Marvel characters die by ONLY doing nothing.

Govetto can lift 800 quintillion tons without straining, causing a supermassively enormous destruction that brings back your loved ones to life, and permanently destroys all evil. Govetto is the reason why Waldo and ninjas are hiding.

Dekoshu 01:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC) Do you really understand?

SS2AJB Sorry I just had a lot of homework I didn't have the time.

Dekoshu 02:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC) I accept your apology again. Try reading more about Govetto.

SS2AJB Wouldn't it make more sense if Govetto's supermassively enormous destruction only permanently destroyed anything evil? Then he would have a special ability that would bring his loved ones back to life. By the way Nonoitall keeps getting on my nerves. He keeps editing out Gohan images I like and putting in new ones I don't like.

Dekoshu 04:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC) I honestly don't like the negative personalites of the adminsitrators at all. They can really get on our nerves. In, the users and administrators barely appreciate me and treated me like a garbage user and they say I'm unhelpful. I just wish I meet with open-minded, merciful, kind admins. You know I can't really trust them like you. I agree what you said, SSJ2AJB. A great comment on Govetto. They blocked me several times on You know what? I don't want to even talk to them anymore, what they're doing is not open-minded and considerate to me. Come on man!!!!! Don't just send me a message that just only involves what you're doing and such outside ALONE. Also read every word on this message I'm trying to make clear, and actually respond. These killjoys don't give me great happiness AT ALL (even with some of my words getting to stay on that site) compared to the better people like you and my mother generously giving me. I'm not gonna tolerate them and their worldly policies anymore. They are jerks and bullies!! D:< Do they even have SUBSTANTIAL KINDNESS there?

SS2JAJB I don't think they have any kind of respect to other users like me and you. I'm just you and I are friends here.

Gohan's infobox picture

Hi. I've noticed you and another user going back and forth between two different images on the Gohan article. Frequently, additional formatting problems are introduced with each reversion. Please discuss which image should be used on the article's talk page. Thanks! -- Nonoitall talk contr 00:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello again. Please tactfully communicate your view on the issue on the article's talk page before changing the image again. Thanks. -- Nonoitall talk contr 11:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello. Refusing to communicate is not going to change consensus to your favor, and is more likely to do the opposite. Please work with the other editors, not against them! Thanks. -- Nonoitall talk contr 22:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

SS2AJB Work with you? Yeah right! I'm just uploading the picture in Gohan's Character Infobox that I think is right. Besides you've already gotten a picture showing Gohan fighting Baby Goten, so why put it up again in the infobox? I liked this picture below me a whole lot better before you edited it.

If you think that picture is more suitable, by all means explain your view on Talk:Gohan. And I think you misunderstood me at some point. I don't much care which image is used, and I never replaced the infobox picture at all. -- Nonoitall talk contr 22:46, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

It was me who Sitch the pictur to Gohan in GT because i feel the Picture in the info box should show how they look currently which means GT, not by which one you think looks the coolest even thought that image is really Cool. (Goten.GT1 21:08, 5 November 2008 (UTC))

Let's Talk About Govetto

Dekoshu 23:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC) Let's have a talk about Govetto.

SS2AJB We've already talked a lot about him, what more is there to say?

Dekoshu 01:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC) I say that Govetto is so immensely powerful, that when he talks for too long, a god dies from his great awesomeness, because the universe cannot simply withstand his voice for exceedingly long periods of time. Whenever he watches anime, he simply goes in the show, defeating the most powerful beings in those shows. Govetto stares at your soul and it was obliterated along with the whole universe, for obvious or unobvious reasons. He sleeps with his night light not because he was afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of Govetto. Because his I.Q is 1000/5000, he simply knows what his opponent is doing, even doing the most unpredictable feats, such as doing nothing.

Dekoshu 01:38, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Well Govetto isn't cocky like Gotenks, (presumably) Vegetto, and (presumably) Gogeta in SS4. True, it makes more sense if the supermassively enormous destruction only permanently destroys all evil. Govetto once fought 75 Golden Oozarus and came back without a scratch. Govetto is one of the Grand-Synchro beings that made even the greatest beings fear him. You want me to tell you what is a Grand-Synchro? Govetto once transformed into a girl or woman, and this was drastically overwhelming to the whole universe, by saying in Captain Falcon's voice "SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!!!!!". The beings hide from Govetto's wrath after this, and the LOLs blew up the WHOLE universe in less than an instant. Show them your moves. Dekoshu 21:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Govetto is neither the result from the Fusion Dance or Potara, he is simply a Grand-Synchro fusion being (and his level is far above and beyond Omega-Level) that can beat his foes in 0 seconds. When Captain Falcon says "Show me your moves!" to Govetto, he showed him his moves by doing a Super Falcon Punch that absolutely obliterates Chuck Norris and Captain Falcon and along with the omniverse, the otherworld and Hell.

Dekoshu 21:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC) ???

SS2AJB Sorry, but you saying Govetto transformed into a woman just freaked me out I did not want to respond to that. Also you already said he was immensely powerful before in the other comment. Dekoshu 22:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Oh sorry that didn't want to respond on the part where Govetto transformed into a woman. What about the others then?

SS2AJB I was finishing some of my homework... and there's a lot of it.

Dekoshu 00:38, 4 November 2008 (UTC) It's been a few days. Could you help with me on something?

SS2AJB Sure, what is it?

Dekoshu 00:51, 4 November 2008 (UTC) For the image from BT3 or in GT for Kiai. And someone added text and edited your Eraser Cannon article. Also, find the translations for Ō for Golden Great Ape. As well, do you know about the List of Power Levels? Also, is there anything I'm missing or forgetting about something?

Dekoshu 21:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC) Can I talk to you?

SS2AJB Sure what is it? Sill more info about Govetto?

Dekoshu 00:38, 5 November 2008 (UTC) Yes. It's about my power level for Bleach. Why don't you send me a message in my talk page be clicking my name? Govetto once played a video game and in the reviews he gave a 5/5. When he played as Gohan and beat the game with him, he gave ALL Budokai, Budokai Tenkaichi, and other popular games, including Dragonball GT:Final Bout, a 10/10. He learned ALL the moves from anime, he was in first place because of this. I try to make a List of Power Levels table for Bleach. Can you help me with that?

SS2AJB I haven't watched a lot of Bleach lately so I'm not very sure about their power levels.

Dekoshu 21:30, 5 November 2008 (UTC) You don't have to. Just get a copy of the List of Power Levels, and post it right here below the Bleach page. Can you find a image for Gogeta performing the Big Bang Kamehameha x100?

Dekoshu 20:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC) Good afternoon, SSJ2AJB. This is the list of what I'm talking about. It says "Power Level Table". Can you help in the other Wiki?

SS2AJB What other wiki do you mean?

Dekoshu 21:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC) The Bleach Wiki. I'm trying to ask other users to fix something with the infoboxes (Now they have it, thanks to SK Nator). It's the Template: Color.

Dekoshu 23:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC) It's over. I independently finished with the colors. Wanna get in to my Talk Page? I want you to talk to me there. How are gonna make a new topic now?

SS2AJB How do I get in your talk page?

Dekoshu 02:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC) You click on my name.

SS2AJB Then what?

Dekoshu 13:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC) You comment to me by going to my discussion page.

Dekoshu 00:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC) Govetto is so fast, that when he nuked a black hole, it reverted back into a star.

Power Levels for Bleach

Dekoshu 01:23, 1 November 2008 (UTC) I will make a list of this in anytime. I'll make it look fair and substantially clear as much as possible.

SS2AJB Alright then, do your best.

Dekoshu 21:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Season 1

What if moments of Dragonball, Z, and GT

Dekoshu 02:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC) I made this list so we can have memorable times with each other. I'll go first.

  • What if Broly is one of the Z-Fighters and a purehearted Saiyan like Son Goku, but could still kill?
  • What if Chichi haven't changed and let Gohan fight and get stronger?
  • What if Goku wasn't afraid of needles anymore? For him, its pain is worse than the strains in his Super Saiyan 3 transformation. Yet I want to know that how would needles can penetrate Goku's mighty body and skin?
  • What if that even Goku is in a Super Saiyan transformation, his heart is still pure?
  • What happens if Pan transforms into a Super Saiyan 3 and/or Super Saiyan 4?
  • What if Goku SS4 can perform the Universal Spirit Bomb, while having a pureheart above?
  • If Gogeta were to exist for 5 hours during a fusion dance, what would happen?
  • What happens if in the anime, movies, manga, and games, female characters, such as Pan and Bulma, use(s)/used the word "bitch"?
  • If Vegetto were to appear in more than two episodes and arc, how would it affect the series?
  • If Chichi became a Super Saiyan, what would happen?
  • If Goku was an Saiyan, Hollow, Shinigami, and an Espada, what would his power level be and would he be the Ultimate Hollow?
  • Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan and used the Kaioken, what would happen if he uses Super Saiyan 4 and Kaioken x20, without the side effects of Kaioken?
  • If Goku were in Bleach, how his opponents would mistaken him as?
  • If Goku gets the Majin Seal instead of Vegeta, what would happen to the whole universe and the omniverse then?
  • What if there was a new Dragonball series where Gohan became the protaganist instead of Goku?
  • What if there was a new Dragonball series where Vegeta is the protaganist instead of Goku?
  • What if Vegetto and Gogeta like Govetto can perform Final Shine Kamehameha and Universal Spirit Bomb?
  • What if either Broly, Pan, Krillin, or Bulma were one of the main protaganists instead of Goku?
  • What if Ichigo Kurosaki was the main protaganist with Goku's personalities in Dragonball?

Dragonball, Z and GT stuff

Dekoshu 05:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Super Saiyan 4 Goku: Show me your moves! :D

Golden Great Ape Baby: Okay. (Shows him his moves by using Super Galick Gun) SUPER GALICK GUN D:< !!!!!

Super Saiyan 4 Goku:(Deflects it back to Baby) KAMEHAMEHA X10 D:< !!!!! (Fires a crimson beam at Baby)

Golden Great Ape Baby: WUUUUUUUAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! X_X(got defeated)

Super Saiyan 4 Goku: YES!!!!! :D (Instant Transmissions back to Earth)


Sk 18:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC) Hello how r u doing today

SS2AJB I'm fine thanks. How about you? Dekoshu 19:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC) Thanks for your help.

Sk 19:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC) good mostly, Hey would you mind creating an article Dekoshu 19:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC) What do you mean? Can you help me with the Power Level Table above me? I need that for the Bleach list.

SS2AJB Okay I am confused right now. Who I am I answering to?

Sk 19:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)could you please make an article forAura NOT Ki

Dekoshu 19:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC) An article for Ki and Aura? Doesn't the ki article already existed? You're answering to me.

Family Kamehameha

Hello. I have noticed that you and an anonymous user have been going back and forth about an edit on the page, Family Kamehameha. It's been going on for quite some time now, and it seems that this would be a good opportunity to discuss the matter on Talk:Family Kamehameha. There, a more enforceable decision can be made. Thanks! -- Nonoitall talk contr 22:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi again. I notice that you continue to revert the other user's edits, and have not chosen to communicate about the matter. Please discuss the issue on the article's talk page. That way the conflict can be resolved rather than aggravated! Thanks. -- Nonoitall talk contr 08:22, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Please discuss the issue before changing the wording in the article again. The other user has explained in detail why he feels the wording he selected is more appropriate. -- Nonoitall talk contr 21:59, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

SS2AJB I know, it's just that I don't know how to explain the comment on the article. Can you show me how?

See below. Please discuss the issue on the article's talk page and come to a resolution before editing the article again. Your comments make it clear that you know how to use talk pages. If you have reasoning to share, do so. If not, then the reasoning that is currently discussed on the talk page stands. It has been four days since the user explained his reasoning in detail, and from your continued edits of the page it is obvious that you have been available but have not chosen to discuss the issue. This can be considered a friendly warning - either discuss the issue and come to a resolution, or leave consensus as is and stop changing the page. -- Nonoitall talk contr 22:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
You have changed the page again (twice) and still refuse to communicate on the article's talk page. The user with which you have a disagreement continues to elaborate on his reasoning. If you think his reasoning is flawed, explain why on the talk page. Otherwise drop the issue. This is your final warning. -- Nonoitall talk contr 10:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Help: Energy Class List

Dekoshu 17:15, 11 November 2008 (UTC) Excuse me, SSJ2AJB, but will you help me with the Energy Class List? It's based on ki-based techniques such as Final Flash and Spirit Bomb. I want to make it more clearer and improve it for the viewers to understand.

SS2AJB I don't even know how it works. Besides I'm making some new changes for Supernova.

Dekoshu 17:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC) Huh?

SS2AJB You want me help, don't you?

Dekoshu 03:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Be careful, SSJ2AJB. That edit with Family Kamehameha could lead you to being reverted again by other users, and you might also be possibly blocked as a result. Also, I think and believed that Super Galick Gun is one the very most powerful moves I have ever seen.

SS2AJB What does "being reverted by other users" mean?

Dekoshu 03:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC) It means when any user see what you did in the Family Kamehameha article, they will take it out or revert it to what it previously used to be.

SS2AJB And what about being blocked? Dekoshu 04:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Getting blocked means that until the administrator will either unblock you after a while or at anytime, or you need to promise them that you will not commit vandalism and do better.

Dekoshu 04:24, 15 November 2008 (UTC) I think that if Govetto or anyone of vast overwhelming power would ever use Super Galick Gun (Omega), it would destroy all galaxies solar systems, universes, and pretty much everything else in picoseconds or femtoseconds. I think you need a archive for all of this.

SS2AJB What's an archive? (Anyway I want you to check out the Supernova article. I put the tecnique's usage in a Cooler's Revenge paragraph in the History section.)

Dekoshu 05:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC) I see what you mean. Anyways, Nonoitall and me took out words like high in the infoboxes. Like Super Galick Gun being a Vast Energy Beam, rather than a simply normal energy wave. Also, you MAY want to ask Nonoitall about archiving your pages.

100x Big Bang Kamehameha

Dekoshu 22:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC) Can you upload an image that shows SSJ4 Gogeta performing the much more powerful BBK?

SS2AJB Where am I supposed to find that image? (Can you tell me how to post and a reason/comment on an article after editing it?

Dekoshu 22:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC) I'm sorry. I don't know what to say that can simply help you, but try going to or some other websites that has Big Bang Kamehameha x100.

Dekoshu 00:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC) Can you help with the article?

Re: Renzoku Kikou Dan

Dekoshu 22:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC) Do you know where to get a Continuous Energy Bullets image from any source?

SS2AJB I'll try to look it up.

Dekoshu 22:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC) Thank you, sir. The move is what most Z & GT fighters use most of the times. It is capable of inflicting a lot of damage.

Dekoshu 22:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC) Thank you, SSJ2AJB. I replaced the image you put for SSB with the one with higher quality.

SS2AJB Anytime, Dekoshu.

Wanna help with the 10x Kamehameha?

Dekoshu 21:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC) I think Vixen is at it again, acutally.

SS2AJB What's he doing?

Dekoshu 21:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC) He took out the other section. Nothing wrong though.

Goten Info box Picture

It was me who kept switching Goten's Picture to GT. (Goten.GT1 21:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC))

Re: Help

Whenever you want to discuss improvements to a page, the best place to do so is on its talk page. The talk pages can be edited just like an article can, or you can use the "Leave message" feature to simplify the process.

Inline comments inside the article are not typically useful; the only occasions on which I tend to use them are when explaining something about the page's formatting (so that editors don't unwittingly change something that is supposed to be the way that it is) or to comment out material that is perhaps in the wrong place, but could still have parts of it salvaged to be used in other areas of the article. If you need to write an inline comment for this or similar reasons you can do so using the <!-- opening and --> closing tags, and placing the content you want commented out inside of them. Again, these should not be used to discuss the page - that's what talk pages are for. -- Nonoitall talk contr 22:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey they removed the citation needed for Goten and Trunks. (Goten.GT1 19:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC))

was it you ? (Goten.GT1 19:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC))

SS2AJB First of all, I didn't remove anything. Second of all, what's a citation?

its when you need to prove a Statement with a Official website, whatz the attitude man, u act like im startin a problem with you, i just wanna know who removed citation needed next to Goten and Trunks Names. (Goten.GT1 20:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC))


Okay sorry if I acted I had a problem, but I didn't. I just wanted to sort out what was going on.

ohh ok no problem so whats gonna happen with the Super Saiyan 2 Article ? (Goten.GT1 20:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC))

SS2AJB I don't know. Some jerk will probably delete the fact that Goten and Trunks reached Super Saiyan 2 in Dragon Ball GT.

Dekoshu 21:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC) I've met a jerk too, and he's unfair.

their some people out their who just dont belive it idk what to say. They show Leave the Super Saiyan 2 article the way it is hey guys goto nontails talk page new info on Dragonball AF. (Goten.GT1 21:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC))


hey i see your helpin the fight about Goten and Trunks being Super Saiyan 2 have you seen the Dragonball GT Perfect Files or own it ? if you do can you upload the image of the Confirmation? (Goten.GT1 22:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC))

SS2 Goten and Trunks

Hey. Just wanted to let you know that it was established on Talk:Super Saiyan 2 that Goten and Trunks did not achieve Super Saiyan 2. (I noticed that you had re-added that information to their articles, and thought you might not have been aware of the discussion that took place.) Just keeping you informed. -- Nonoitall talk contr 23:22, 21 November 2008 (UTC) Dekoshu 23:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC) Show me your moves!

I see that you have again added the information. As stated on Talk:Super Saiyan 2, Goten and Trunks are not established users of the form. Saying otherwise on an article is inserting false information. Persistence may lead to your temporarily being blocked from editing. -- Nonoitall talk contr 00:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Super Saiyan 2 Goten and Trunks

Hey, how are you doing? Just thought I'd point out that some of us discussed this in the Talk:Super Saiyan 2 page. So far we have no rock-solid evidence of them being SSJ2's, and we actually have more evidence of them not being than being. So, unless you or anyone else can find some good proof, we decided not to put anything up that may be false, we only want to put what we know. I see that User:Nonoitall already mentioned this but you did not see it or just ignored it. However, just thought I'd let you know. Thanks... SSJGoku93 00:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Temporary block

Because of your insistence on inserting unverified information into articles, and even more so because of your refusal to communicate your rationale, your account has been temporarily blocked from editing for two days. (I felt three was too harsh.) Communication is very important on a wiki, and failure to do so - even when the information you want to present is accurate - is very disruptive. Please consider working with other editors to establish consensus, rather than imposing your view without discussing the reasoning behind it. If you feel that you can discuss the issue without launching into another edit war, let me know I would be happy to lift the block on your account early. -- Nonoitall talk contr 10:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleting images

The delete function is only available to users with administrative access. However, as with regular articles, you can edit the image's page and insert the {{delete}} template to suggest its deletion. (Adding a reason why in your edit summary or on the image's talk page also helps.) In short order, myself or another admin will be along to delete the image if appropriate. -- Nonoitall talk contr 08:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

SS2AJB Okay thanks.


Dekoshu talk contrib 00:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC) Happy New Year and God bless you. Also, Storm keeps undoing my edits on Beam attacks. I am sorry if I was making slander about Storm to you.

SSJ2AJB Thanks Dekoshu, Happy New Year to yourself, too. I'm really sorry about all the trouble you, Storm, and the other users had to go through about the edits. I hope you can work something out. By the way, you have got to take a look at the new Kamehameha related articles I edited. They are Double Kamehameha, Maximum Power Kamehameha, and Kamekameha. Take a look at them and tell me what you think.

(What does "making slander about Storm to me" mean?) Dekoshu talk contrib 06:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC) What isn't true. I wasn't trying to slander, it's just that I disagreed with Storm's changes.

SSJ2AJB I don't blame you. On the 10x Kamehameha article, Storm wants to put down the technique's debut before what it actually is. I think it should be the other way around. But every time I do that, he just reverts it back to what it was before I edited it.

I still don't understand why you disagree with this. Dragon Ball Wiki does not solely cover fictional topics. Goku does not exist in reality, while Super Android 13! does. It isn't irreverent to hold off on the in-universe descriptions of what these things are. Besides, what they essentially are is touched upon in the first line of these articles ({{{Name}}} is an energy wave technique in the Dragon Ball franchise). I don't see what your problem is with the lead answering a technique's name, class and debut in that order, before delving into what exactly it is to the Dragon Ball series itself. Storm 06:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Dekoshu talk contrib 06:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC) Everything doesn't always go in your way. Sheesh, I met one of the most insensitive and stubborn users in the Internet. Everything has to be in your own way. You're not alone.

Dekoshu talk contrib 02:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Hi, SSJ2AJB. Do you think Goku surpassed Vegeta?

SS2AJB My guess is yes. When Goku was fighting Kid Buu as a Super Saiyan 3, Vegeta gave Goku respect and told him that he was Number One.

Thank you, SSJ2AJB.Dekoshu talk contrib 03:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello again, SSJ2AJB

How are you in this website? Even though I am facing difficulites in the Internet, I am stilling finding it to be much more significant in life than here. Also, nobody deserves to be patronized by anyone: no one, not even admins and your friends. Dekoshu talk contrib 00:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB Well I'm still handling things, but there's one problem I'm already facing:Vixen Windstorm. He always wants techniques debuts before what they really are like 10x Kamehameha and 100x Big Bang Kamehameha. I wanted to put it the other way. I'm the one who opened up the 10x Kamehameha article with my own ideas (I also appreciate your edits) and then Storm deletes everything and writes it his own way. If he's gonna do that, he could at least put down what the technique is before its debut! But now that he's already an administrator, I might be blocked (again) if I keep reversing his edits.

I haven't removed any of your edits to the article, I've explained to you several times why it is more practical for in-universe descriptions to be stated after the non-fictional facts about the subject have been established. And no I won't block you for edit warring something that isn't slanderous, this dispute was ongoing long before I was appointed administrator so I don't intend to treat the situation any differently. Storm 01:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

It seems you are considering the conducts Storm made previously to be inconsiderate and selfish. I am sorry if the "problem" (Storm) is in "your way", and he is infuriating you in some way. Dekoshu talk contrib 05:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB Alright, thanks for your sympathy, Dekoshu.

10x Kamehameha edits

I haven't removed any of your edits to the article, I've explained to you several times why it is more practical for in-universe descriptions to be stated after the non-fictional facts about the subject have been established. And no I won't block you for edit warring something that isn't slanderous, this dispute was ongoing long before I was appointed administrator so I don't intend to treat the situation any differently. Storm 01:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB Are you kidding me? You have removed the edits in what the 10x Kamehameha is. This is the what the version looked like before you edited it. And now here's your edits. Can't you see the difference between the two edits? You know you did erase the edits before (The ones for history, I'm okay with).

This is ridiculous. The revisions you're showing me are from almost two months ago. The paralyzing description doesn't belong in the lead because it can only be said of one incarnation of the technique, and it is already mentioned at a more appropriate place in the usage section. Restating sentences of information is the wrong way to increase the size of a stub. There doesn't need to be more than one image in an Infobox. Besides, the size of the article now supports having an image in the prose, which in turn helps increase the length of the article. Questionable alternate names, bold formatting and ampersands were removed from the Infobox and other parameters were touched up properly such as "Energy Beam/Wave" → "Energy wave" and "Ki-based" → "Ki-based". I just can't believe you'd hold my reworking this into this against me. Storm 05:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB Would it even kill you to be at least considerate enough to let go of another user's edit on a page?! You know, a few months ago in the Super Saiyan 2 article, I thought Goten and Trunks reached Super Saiyan 2, so I tried to put it in there. They told me to stop, but I kept on going, so I was blocked for two days. After the block, I decided not to put in SSJ2 Goten and SSJ2 Trunks. I was a little mad, but then I took a deep breath and moved on. Also in Family Kamehameha, another user kept putting "(presumably)" in Broly's death and I kept erasing it. And after my block, I decided to keep "(presumably)", but erase the parenthesis. Like in the Super Saiyan 2 article, I took a deep breath and moved on. The point is that I'm trying to ask you to just let this edit go, but to you, I guess that's just to much to ask for you. And don't give me that info about what the 10x Kamehameha page is supposed to look to you, like its only paralyzing description, only one image in the infobox, no alternative names, bold formatting, or any other of that stuff. I don't want to hear it.

I've let things go or gone either way with how things are expressed on the wiki before, but this case is different. I'm trying to put a standard structure of consistency to use in articles, meaning this revamped structure isn't being applied to 10x Kamehameha and 100x Big Bang Kamehameha alone. Many have poor leads, and some even ignore the "Name is a whatever it is" format in favor of lazy structures that abruptly begin like "a whatever it is in Dragon Ball," for example. As for you not wanting to hear a legitimate explanation of why the article has been reworked, at least I can justify why I believe it should read this way. Frantic reverts with unexplanatory edit summaries, and sock puppet advocating the revision you prefer never swayed anybody. Storm 07:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Good evening, SSJ2AJB

I am happy to see you again. Even though we face conflicts, we should not forget of what is truly sigificant in our whole lives. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB It's nice to see you too, Dekoshu. How are things going for you?

It's going well. You're one of my friends that deserves to be treated with kindness, compassion, and respect, by me. Also, in Final Bout, as Super Saiyan 4 Goku, your physical strength and energy attacks are far beyond extraordinary. Super Saiyan 3 CANNOT be that strong. Dekoshu talk contrib 22:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I was waiting for you. Dekoshu talk contrib 18:59, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB Oh hi. Sorry I couldn't talk to you last night. I had to get in the shower and my parents wanted me in the bed. The same comment goes right back at you with Super Saiyan 4 Goku and Final Bout.

What does that mean? Super Saiyan 4 is phenomenally intense. Dekoshu talk contrib 19:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB I meant the one where you said, "Also, in Final Bout, as Super Saiyan 4 Goku, your physical strength and energy attacks are far beyond extraordinary. Super Saiyan 3 CANNOT be that strong." I meant that comment.

Now I understand. Thank you.Dekoshu talk contrib 19:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB You're very much welcome.

I forgot to mention that Bleach has a high power level too, but not as phenomenal as Dragon Ball Z's. They, Dragon Ball characters, are capable of moving at lightspeeds and superluminal speeds. Dekoshu talk contrib 19:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ4Ichigo Hi!! I'm actually new here and I was wondering if you could tell me who are the admins here? Sorry if I'm a bother, but I'm just kinda lost....

Really? Good evening again, SSJ2AJB. I watched the battle with Vegito and Super Buu. It was quite intense. Dekoshu talk contrib 00:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC) You're a great help in the past, and to me, you're a greatly helpful user. Sorry that some of my edits are getting reworked by Storm. Dekoshu talk contrib 02:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB Thanks Dekoshu. You're a great and helpful user, too. Oh here's a heads up: If you're gonna replace words, make sure they go along with "a" or "an", such as "a powerful" or "an immense". Okay that being said, you should check what I did for the Super Saiyan 2 article. Click on this version and you'll see some quotes I put up. Please take a look and tell me what you think.


The technique Infobox looks different because it has been written. Storm Z Ball talk projects 03:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

SSJ2AJB Do you mean what looks like before or after an edit?

I don't understand what you're asking. Before January 22, the Infobox looked like this, and since the rewrite, it looks like this. Certain depreciated parameters have been removed, and the overall Infobox has a cleaner appearance. Storm Z Ball talk projects 03:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure, just point the mouse cursor over an image. Normally a tooltip (a short description) will appear while the cursor is "hovering" over the image. If the caption parameter has been filled into the markup for the image you hover over, for example rather than Ss4gokukamehameha.jpg, "Goku uses the 10x Kamehameha against Syn Shenron," will appear in the tooltip. Storm Z Ball talk projects 03:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
You don't click any button, you simply point the cursor over the image. If you put the cursor over the image and left-click, the page for the image itself will load. If you put the cursor over the image and right-click, a menu for your browser whichever browser you use will appear (both of these things I'm sure you're aware of, but I describe anyways for the sake of the explanation). So when you want to see tooltip captions, just put the cursor over an image, and wait for no longer than a second. Storm Z Ball talk projects 00:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
No, take the mouse and point (not click) over an image. With the cursor pointed over the image, as long as you don't click any button on the mouse, the tooltip description should pop up within the second. It's as simple as that. Storm Z Ball talk projects 00:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
In short, captions are going to make complete Infoboxes look awkward. There will be the image, followed by a couple of lines describing what's happening in the image, followed by a line featuring the name in kana, followed by another featuring the name in romanized Japanese, and then the parameters begin. Besides, it isn't common practice to use captions in Infoboxes anyways. If there's an image in the Infobox of a technique article, all the Infobox image needs to address is the distinguishing features of the technique. Captions are okay for images throughout the prose, in fact I wouldn't have an image in the prose without an accompanying caption, but as for the Infobox, captions were depreciated because they weren't integral to the Infobox, and they were underused enough as it was. I don't get why you don't see the hovering captions though, it's literally as simple as putting the mouse cursor on an image and waiting for half a second. The option to receive tooltips may be disabled on the computer you're using, but the only way that would be the case is if it were deliberately disabled. Storm Z Ball talk projects 00:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image Inserting Problem

I'm not sure exactly which options you're talking about. If you're using one of the Monaco skins, that would probably explain it because I've never really preferred that skin over MonoBook. But in short, I can't explain what happened to these options; sorry about that. Storm Z Ball talk projects 08:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


The images I've been uploading are actually screencaps I take of the episodes themselves, rather than fansites or YouTube. I'm in the process of re-watching Dragon Ball Z in my free time, so when I see a scene that an image on the wiki depicts in low-quality, I take a screencap of it to upload as a replacement. I could probably replace the Angry Kamehameha image later on when I'm not so lazy. Storm Z Ball talk projects 00:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

There should be a help function with the program. I can't really be of any help here because for screenshots of episodes and movies I just pop the disc into my PC and capture images with my media player. Sorry about that. Thanks for looking into a way to upload better quality video game screens though; we could use a lot more of them. But like I said, the program DVC uses to record video should come with a handy help file. Storm Z Ball talk projects 06:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I've been distracted with real-world issues lately so I haven't really looked into that image yet. I can definitely get a better quality version uploaded, it's just a matter of finding the disc. It hasn't totally slipped my mind though, but in the meantime thanks for replacing what was there. Storm Z Ball talk projects 01:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Good afternoon, SSJ2AJB

It's been a lot of days. How are you doing, dude? Dekoshu talk contrib 22:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I realized that Vegito and Gogeta are vastly powerful and even together, they can beat any non-anime characters. Vegito would say "I want you to be more serious, or were you serious and this is all you had?" after beating the stuffings out of many people. Marvel and DC characters can be defeated not only by each other, but from anime characters as well. Think of Ultimate Gohan, Broly, and Vegeta. Remember, in anime and cartoons, they show how they really fight. Dekoshu talk contrib 22:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Quote for Super Saiyan 4 please

I need your help looking for a proper quote for Super Saiyan 4. Thank you, SSJ2AJB. Dekoshu talk contrib 01:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Quoting

I noticed this too earlier. I looked into it just now and found that it was the work of a bot, so I reverted it. Thanks for reminding me! Storm Z Ball talk projects 01:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


What's up. I was wondering... are you a big Dragonball Role-Player?--Baracuss 04:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

That user was horrible

He made a demeaning work about my userpage and it was perverted. T_T Thank you for removing that horrible vandalism, SSJ2AJB. Dekoshu talk contrib 06:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

10x Kamehameha

I agree; I haven't seen Dragon Ball GT in quite some time, and even then I was never really a fan of it so I usually just take peoples' words on what went on during that arc of the anime. If you notice more errors like the one in the 10x Kamehameha image's tooltip, don't hesitate to correct them. Thanks for spotting that though! Storm Z Ball talk projects 01:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Bros. Kamehameha

Oh, all you had to do was edit the redirect page. Just go here and type away! Storm Z Ball talk projects 23:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ultimate Kamehameha

Well if the Ultimate Kamehameha is a real technique then it can be accepted like all other content. If it's bogus or a fan name though, it should be erased. Storm Z Ball talk projects 21:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, it slipped my mind until now but I just thought I'd let you know the Ultimate Kamehameha article looks good. Storm Z Ball talk projects 05:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


Dude,Dragonball kai is coming out in April 5! ^^

gohanRULEZ 14:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Z & GT

I was actually watching a video showing Vegito, and overpowered somebody that is not from Dragon Ball Z. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Vegito overpowered 5 Naruto characters, and it was from Youtube. I know he ain't gonna get that hurt easily from even Super Buu. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I knew Youtube a lot man. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, even shinigami should watch out from the enormous threat that is both Gogeta and Vegito, and Goku is considered the strongest manga character of all time, but he is also possibly the strongest anime character of all time. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Goku is exeedingly powerful, and as Gogeta or Vegito, either of these fusions barely got hurt. Dekoshu talk contrib 00:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Goku is never a human. If he were to be in any other anime and cartoon, they will be afraid of him, along with Vegeta. Also, both Gogeta and Vegito are tremendously powerful, and if we could see more action and appearances for the both of them, it would be particularly intense. Dekoshu talk contrib 02:43, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Super Dodon Blast image

I would like for you to find the one with Chiaotzu using it on Krillin during their battle. Thank you. Dekoshu talk contrib 02:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh and it's in Dragon Ball. Dekoshu talk contrib 16:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Image needed, please. Dekoshu talk contrib 04:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you know about Dragon Ball GT Final Bout?

Unlike other games, you can build up your attacks until they can take out the enitre health bar of your opponents. Dekoshu talk contrib 16:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I played it. Good game. I suggest you comment on the new page. I didn't get the new message pop out, even though it was in archive 3. Dekoshu talk contrib 17:08, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Double Kamehameha and Double Masenko

Hi. I'm not sure I understood what you needed help with. I don't really see anything wrong with using "version" (or "variation" for that matter) but I suppose another synonym that might work would be "adaptation". Is that what you meant or was it something else that you wanted help with? -- Nonoitall talk contr 09:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Maybe we should ditch the "standard" format for those and have a summary that says something like, "The user fires a Kamehameha from each hand simultaneously." How does that sound? -- Nonoitall talk contr 05:54, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Sounds fine to me. :-) -- Nonoitall talk contr 07:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Translations for the Super Sonic Warriors 2 techniques please

There's Japanese techniques that supposed to have a translation. Dekoshu talk contrib 11:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the current edit war over the Trunks fact.

I'm leaving this note on all users currently involved with this little edit war on the False Super Saiyan page over the note about Future Trunks. Please visit that pages discussion, and once you read it, you'll understand what it is about. Thanks.
 talk contr 
21:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

SS3 Goku

I just don't see how Goku's transformation into a Super Saiyan 3 caused 9/11.. Curse you, Youtube, and your anti-saiyan propaganda!! SuperTron500 11:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Semi-Perfect Cell v. Gohan

Hey mate. I'm allowing you to revert any inconsistent edit made by Vegerot. If for any reason he reverts more than 2 more times, I will ban him for his consistent vandalism to the Cell Games page; you already proved that they fight in the anime, and that's good enough for me. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ultimate Kamehameha

Well the kamehamehas I was refering to were

1. When Super Saiyan 3 Goku was fighting Fat Buu, Fat Buu usesses his belly attack to swallow Goku up in his belly and Goku uses a golden Kamehameha to escape.

2. While Super Vegito is beating Super Buu he uses a golden kamehameha to destory him once. This happens in his super saiyan form while the Final Kamehameha is only used in his base. Thunderbender18 00:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Moving pages

In the top, there's a "move" adjustment, which you click on and it opens a discerning table, you choose the reason of the move (or write a reason) and the page is moved; you also choose if you want the talk page moved with the title page. What exactly are you trying to move? Vegerot, for example, was moving pages inaccurately and causing chaos which myself and SSJGoku93 have been reverting for a while now. He was basically moving character names, such as Bulla to Bra Brief and purposely inserting manga-only indications; which have now become very annoying. For the most part, we are trying to follow the manual of style for the current edits, etc. in regards to naming. You might want to check it out mate. Our current manual of style and furthermore, the consensus established in regards to naming conventions are what we try to facilitate as the current guide to naming designations for article titles, etc. About moving pages though, there's a specific move button you need to use. It's plausible that the button is elsewhere if you are using another version of internet explorer (which you probably aren't). - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I moved Heat Dome to Heat Dome Attack. Was that the only one or are there any other inconsistencies? If you find any, let me know. Thanks again. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Images and other stuff for techniques

Dekoshu talk contrib 20:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the color error on Babidi's Ultimtae Power. I don't know what makes purple, but white. It was an honest mistake. Dekoshu talk contrib 19:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I dont get you

Hey, I dont get it. You like every Z fighter in dbz, every kamehameha, every masenko, and every ssj transformation, so why are you saying your favorites?


Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm not sure just how busy I'll be with Dragon Ball Wiki, but you'll definitely see me around more often again. Storm Z Ball talk projects 19:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Try rewording the 10x Kamehameha and other techniques

I'll help along with you. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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