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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Shakuran13 (talk) 01:17, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

SS4FP Broly

I undid it because you changed Super Saiyan 4 Full Power to enhanced which it not correct Meshack (talk) 19:13, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Revenger Cannon variations

Before going on to more edit warring, I am going to discuss with you on the Revenger Cannon technique, which is more powerful. Thanks. Bardock ssj2 (talk) 23:33, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Vegeta

I'm pretty sure since it was never confirmed to be non-canon, and since Toriyama had a direct hand in making it, it's considered canon. Super is considered a retelling of the movies. Even if I'm wrong, you shouldn't just delete huge chunks of information like that without properly starting a discussion topic for it. 

-- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 02:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, why are you deleting topic headers? I don't want to revert your edits, just asking for an explanation.

-- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 20:30, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

I don't see how it's easier, having the headers is way more organized. You should really consult an admin or start a talk page before making mass edits like this.

-- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 00:50, February 4, 2016 (UTC)


Please ask an admin before creating categories. "Space pirates" is too subjective as well as obscure. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:14, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Regarding Quotes

I'm personally a Kai Fanboy, I'm a sucker for audio quality and none of the other dubs are really as good. I also like the fact that it's more faithful to the japanese version. As for pictures, if it's helping the article, I'm all for it. -- Final ChidoriTalk 03:45, June 11, 2016 (UTC)

Quick Question

I've noticed that you sign your messages twice, so your sig goes before the text and after the text. Is that intentional? I thought it was a mistake at first and I was a bit confused lol. -- Final ChidoriTalk 18:27, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

Bigdaddy42hammer is the one responsible for messing up Uub's page Nikon23 01:58, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Frezia Transformation

I dont get in dragon ball z kai it was stated that True form was the third transformation Dinowolf56 (talk) 18:59, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

The "You will die by my hand!" Page Quote

Look, friend, you and I are obviously in disagreement about what the quote for this page should. I'd like for us to find a way to settle this without a fight or gong into an editing war. So, let's find a way for us to work this out. Agreed?

Finkendoodle101 (talk) 19:38, November 4, 2016 (UTC)Finkendoodle101

It makes me super happy seeing messages like this haha. I'm really impressed, nice job dude. A good way to solve edit wars would be starting a topic on the article's talk page and waiting for other users to come over there and form a consensus. This way, we see multiple opinions instead of just two. -- Final ChidoriTalk 20:04, November 4, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice! I went ahead and did just that.
Finkendoodle101 (talk) 01:09, November 5, 2016 (UTC)Finkendoodle101
Look Rogeta; Final Chidori, TyplosionX, and I have all already agreed to change the page quote to the Kai version. If you wish to argue with us, take it to the talk page because, like I said, I don't want to turn this into an editing war.
Finkendoodle101 (talk) 23:54, December 6, 2016 (UTC)Finkendoodle101

Rival bios

Notice the part in Frieza's section "An emperor ruling over numerous planets. As Golden Freeza, his strength surpasses Super Saiyan Blue."--Neffyarious (talk) 16:49, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

  • Since the article is Future Trunks Saga based, and references Frieza as being stronger than SSB, we have to assume current, that;s how it works - since there was no reference to "in the past" or "at the time". It's like with the GT guide and it's comparison of Vegito and SS4. You understand, we had to assume that it was comparing Vegito to SS4 at the time of the guides release. It's the same here.--Neffyarious (talk) 16:59, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Golden Frieza

You do know if you keep undoing the same edit continously you're going to be blocked right. You're doing it with an admin. 0551E80Y (talk) 14:39, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

Golden Freezia 

Freezia kept the metal freezia form power so it will make him strong enoug to be nearly possible as Future Trunks. 

Freezia 4 motnhs of training gave him enough strength to take on Goku base form in Super and proven to be quite more powerful then Super sayne Blue Goku in his new fith form 

Frezia has 5 forms only correct? As base, gitant freezia, Alien like from the movie to make Freezia, and more humanoid Frezia and Golden Frezia he used to have mecha Freezia so its 6 forms but lost that form but kept the power at least 


As noted by the person above you shouldn't edit war, use the talk page for the Golden Frieza article. Please make sure and always use talk in order to avoid edit wars, if you don't you will receive a temporary block.--Neffyarious (talk) 02:27, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

  • I have given you a two week block for your failure to comply. When you return please refrain from edit warring.--Neffyarious (talk) 05:02, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • I'm glad that it's over and the issue has been resolved, but I warn you never to do that again. Because I have so much fun here and I hate to miss out on correcting errors.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:43, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Go re-watch

Go re-watch Battle of Gods with the subtitles on, because 1:10:39 into it Shenron even says five Saiyans with righteous hearts so it is implied that the ritual calls for six Saiyans with righteous hearts not pure hearts.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  01:59,3/3/2017 

Do you not know that

Do you not know that name calling is against site policy? Plus I really don't think you can count trying to transform into a Super Saiyan and not being able to stay in the form as transforming into it briefly because he didn't even stay in the form he powered up into it for like a millisecond then went back to base form.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  02:36,3/11/2017 

I'm afraid it still counts regardless of how long it lasts.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:42, March 11, 2017 (UTC)


Yo. I saw you talking to Buckimion on the Family guy wiki. You're right. He does need some better manners and drop the ruthlessness. I hope one day the wikia staff sees this and fixes him up. Should let you know that he's also the beaurcrat of the American Dad, and Cleaveland show wikis as well and he's enforced the same policies there as well. I've been watching him for over 6 months now on all 3 wikis.

Because the Cleaveland show has finished, he will never allow anyone to edit on that wiki cos no more infomation can be released about it. effecitivally made it a museum. His most assinine pollicy ever that he enforces is that, he will never allow anyone to change the words put down on the articles already or as he sees it, 'padding' Which pretty much goes the meaning of wiki editing: 'anyone can edit 'anything'. He's ticked off a lot of people in the past with this.  He tried on me once so i told him. stuff him and those wikis, i i won't edit anywhere where he's in charge of. He's someone who should not have that authority at all and made life hell for anyone who tries to work there. Best way to describe him would be a Wikinazi. 0551E80Y (talk) 07:10, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Glad you agree with me.Rogeta234 (talk) 12:34, March 22, 2017 (UTC)


Look here for the list of the users, play the game, or actually search on youtube for a video that proves it instead of assuming that it is speculation. Because I know the truth I have the dlc and have played and beat the dlc story.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  01:30,4/27/2017 

Give me photoraphic evidence or I'll have to report about this.Rogeta234 (talk) 01:39, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Dude go ahead and report it and deny the truth because you don't want to look it up when another article even states Cabba has Supervillain, because I am not providing you with photographic evidence when all you have to do is actually go to YouTube and type in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 Universe 6 Saga Striving for Perfection. I don't understand how someone can remove something that has proof all over YouTube, Twitch, Beam, and any where else where people can share their gameplay footage. Also no their doesn't have to be photo evidence as long as everyone who owns the game and the dlc has either got to that part of the dlc story or beat the dlc story then they know it is true and knows anyone who removes it from the article is leading it to misinforming the reader.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  01:47,4/27/2017 

Watch yourself, buddy. You have to keep your cool. I don't want to turn this into one of us getting blocked and I don't intend on going through that heck again.Rogeta234 (talk) 03:00, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

I am keeping my cool, you threaten to report something that was true as false and me for adding false info when I wasn't, and you wanted photographic evidence when a great deal of us users have the dlc and have played the story so we know it is true.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  03:05,4/27/2017 


Actually look at the article before you make the kind of edit you did, because it even says at the top of the article that this article is about the character from the first game you may be looking for the character from the sequel Future Warrior (Xenoverse 2), so the voice actors for Xenoverse 2 don't belong on Future Warrior. Future Warrior 1 doesn't talk in Xenoverse 2. The reason I removed the links from some is because we don't link them if they don't have articles.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  23:33,5/22/2017 

Really? Be that as it may, I wasn't the one who originally added the voices to begin with.Rogeta234 (talk) 23:37, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Yea you are just the one who put his edit back including his mistakes also I have done messaged him about it also. Yes really.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  23:38,5/22/2017 

Supa Saiyajin Kaioken Bejitto

Image.--Neffyarious (talk) 20:46, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I found out shortly after. But, thanks for sending proof in case someone else does it.Rogeta234 (talk) 21:49, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Xeno Bardock SSJ4


Just to clarify, this is not a fan made video. In this video, you can clearly see a SSJ4 saiyan warrior with red arm bands and leg bands  which bascially give off the hint that this warrior is Bardock and the scar is probably the best proof. 

Bardock ssj2 (talk) 02:08, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

Death of Super Shenron

Talk:Super_Shenron#Death_of_Super_Shenron. Borticon (talk) 20:32, November 19, 2017 (UTC)


Oh now i know you, you're that bad person who called Chi-Chi a c*nt, well "buddy" i have made a dialog in which Goku is furious at you BTW did he was in your house reccently for what you said about his wife?BH Ouji (talk) 06:40, December 17, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the Goku visit: No, sorry to disappoint you. Besides, would you care to show me this "dialogue?"Rogeta234 (talk) 14:51, December 17, 2017 (UTC)

Heh fine (...) darn i can't find the art with that comment anymoreBH Ouji (talk) 07:35, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

Beerus in "Former Villains"

The category has been there since August 9th, 2017. You're the one with the problem, you're the one who wants to change it, you start the discussion, if you still want to see it changed. Either way, keep it the way it is until if and when consensus is achieved.

Orion (T-B-C) 01:01, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

If you have a problem with it, you'll have to use the talk page and discuss it. As for it being there since August, I might not have noticed it.Rogeta234 (talk) 04:04, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

You're the one who has a problem with it, Rogeta, since it was there for months and was implicitly accepted by everyone. If you want it removed, even though your edit was reverted multiple times by different people, it's on you to start the discussion.

Orion (T-B-C) 08:55, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Dude don't be rude towards me

We all know you're human but please don't act like that, thank you, i know you have ag rudge towards me for some reason, but no need to insult each other ok?BH Ouji (talk) 07:29, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

Buddy, I let all kinds of folks call me certain names. "Dude" isn't one of them. Also, I will stop if you try to at least act more like a responsible adult. If you do that, you have my word.Rogeta234 (talk) 12:36, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

Here's the proof

http://comicbook.com/anime/2018/03/11/dragon-ball-super-caulifla-kale-creation-anime-akira-toriyama/, and FYI Neffy is an admin who actually stays up to date.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  16:00,3/19/2018 

Also you should have look on Talk:Berserker Super Saiyan.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  16:03,3/19/2018 

Sorry, but the article just states that Kale is "Broly-like". It also doesn't really mention that the transformation used by Broly is the same as Kale's. As for the second one, that was a fan made thing someone put in for the magazine.Rogeta234 (talk) 16:11, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

I was talking about the whole section that thing was in not just that picture.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  16:15,3/19/2018 

There's an old saying, "A picture is worth 1,000 words."Rogeta234 (talk) 16:17, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

The anime staff (the people that created Kale, mind you) call it the "Broly form", so they're quite open about it being the same thing. Gildeds (talk) 18:14, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

Edit Warring

You're going to have to ease up on the Edit Warring. It was brought to my Talk Page back in May as well and it was only a week ago it happened on the Xeno Evolution page. Now this is the third time at least from what I recall.

If you undo an edit and then someone undoes that edit then it's at that point that you have to use the talk page to discuss it out properly, that is why they exist. It's much more effective that way and nobody has to get any admins like myself pestering you over it. Also you can't call people a dick, that's self explanatory.Bullza (talk) 22:05, June 23, 2018 (UTC)

It's only the 2nd time to refresh your memory. Anyway, the matter has been taken care of. Besides, Orion is kind of a you-know-what at times.Rogeta234 (talk) 23:16, June 23, 2018 (UTC)

Potential Unleashed Super Saiyan Gohan

Gohan did use Potential Unleashed Super Saiyan against Beerus. When Gohan is not in at least his base Potential Unleashed state, he has softer and not fully-outlined eyes like Goku.--Steveo920 (talk) 02:26, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

If you compare the look of his base form and Potential Unleashed form, there's a big difference. It's sort of like his base form with SSJ2 hair and eyes.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:33, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

My point exactly. Gohan was clearly in Potential Unleashed state to begin with.--Steveo920 (talk) 02:35, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

He didn't use SSJ or SSJ2 on top of it in the original script. He just used SSJ2.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:36, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

Actually he did. Potential Unleashed is a natural state that becomes Gohan's base as long as he is properly conditioned. In Resurrection "F", he degraded back to his standard self from lack of training, seen from his softer eyes. Once he got back into shape training with Piccolo, the sharper eyes returned. These eyes were seen in the original script for Battle of Gods, ergo, Potential Unleashed Super Saiyan.

I Had Enough

You listen here, forget about the old Broly. The form is getting new info because of Kale DBS Broly, so I'm just checking because the demon statement might be true for both universes. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:17, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

First off, watch your tone. Second off, Who's to say that the new Broly won't have the weakness? Maybe he will, maybe he won't. It's too soon to say. So, for now, leave it to Kale having that weakness until the film is released.Rogeta234 (talk) 03:16, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

I WASN'T THE ONE WHO PUT THE INFO UP THERE! Even in Universe 7, the form was considered to be savagely because of the legend. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:41, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

CTHD, boy.Rogeta234 (talk) 12:58, July 21, 2018 (UTC)  

Enough is Enough

It is a sourced statement. If you continue to remove source information, I will report you. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:18, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

If that's the case, I'll have you reported for disrupting a page. Unless you make the same thing to Super Saiyan Anger, then we'll call it even. If you don't, you can probably kiss your career here goodbye.Rogeta234 (talk) 22:33, September 8, 2018 (UTC) 

Shinka was sourced from Twitter by one of the directors. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:11, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

That doesn't mean you have to state it as an Anime exclusive TF. Rogeta234 (talk) 23:27, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

You do realize that since Super has so many differences, anything relating to it has mentioned of the exclusiveness. For example, the ToP happened completely different between the anime and manga. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:50, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

Still, you should also add in the fact that SSJA is an Anime exclusive TF. Just warning you, senor controller.Rogeta234 (talk) 23:54, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

Don't start with me again, I know what title says and that its in the episode. I just like to wait for the episode release add everything in order of appearance. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:18, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

If you want to act like a big infant, fine. You'll owe me if it does appear.Rogeta234 (talk) 03:36, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

I don't own you nothing since I never said you was wrong. Everyone knows its coming back but I like to update the entire at once when an episode is released. So take your damn additude somewhere else. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:46, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

Easy there. You know I could report you for your attitude.Rogeta234 (talk) 12:59, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry for once. Like I said, your not wrong but I like to update the episode pages all at once when its released. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:25, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

before you edit war

I suggest you go read the SS4 talk page. FlatZone (talk) 20:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

There's no evidence that it's still called the "Ultimate form", FlatZero. So please, stop the edit warring.Rogeta234 (talk) 20:50, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Super_Saiyan_4#Chozenshu_info_translated actually check out the link and the posts I made, and don't call me FlatZero. FlatZone (talk) 20:53, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

It's just a nickname for you.Rogeta234 (talk) 21:28, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Gogeta Trivia

There was no need to undo the edit made by User:HygorBohmHubner as Vegeta doesn’t remember the dance until Goku mentions it to him in the Broly movie. He decides to have Goku teach it to him as he didn’t know how to perform the fusion and fight Broly while as Gogeta. I edited it a little bit so it can make sense [1]. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:23, February 17, 2019 (UTC))

All he said was that it was something Trunks was talking about, that didn't prove he forgot about the dance.Rogeta234 (talk) 18:44, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

Yes it does prove that he forgot about it because if you take a closer look at the scene he questioned about it when Goku asked him about the dance and said it was just something Trunks was talking about until he realized what the dance was and refused to perform it because he thought the dance was silly. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:07, February 17, 2019 (UTC)).

Dragon Ball SD Broly version

Goku does ask if Cheelai was Namekian because of her green skin to which she annoyingly replied no. Though I couldn’t find one available in English there were ones in Spanish and Italian that can be translated as follows to English.


Goku: Are you a new kind of Namekian?
Cheelai: I may have green skin but I’m not Namekian!!!

(Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:20, March 3, 2019 (UTC))

Until the English version comes out, this isn't fully confirmed. Also, be sure to put your username in.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:05, March 3, 2019 (UTC)
Here's a source. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:12, March 3, 2019 (UTC)
Duly noted. But you need to stop adding that his relationship with Cheelai isn't like Kale and Caulifla's.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:13, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Good source DragonEmeperor that proves my point (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 02:22, March 3, 2019 (UTC))

Are you excited for season 2 of Super???


Shadow silver x 4  might be dragonemperor second account

Look at the way he edits and the time he joined. a day after Dragonemeperor was blocked

Shin the science guy (talk) 20:29, March 28, 2019 (UTC)Shin the scienceguy

Oh dear.Rogeta234 (talk) 21:56, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

If it is, then his grammar has seriously deteriorated, based on an edit he made on another wiki.

Orion (T-B-C) 22:03, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

Da guides said 2 tel an admen about trolls, so i did. + i'd talked wit another guy abut an inkoret edit i did. ShadowSilverx4 (talk) 22:14, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

If this is wat i get 4 helping, i;m outs then. Peace. ShadowSilverx4 (talk) 22:16, March 28, 2019 (UTC)
This is hilarious. — Final ChidoriTalk 01:59, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

How is Gogeta's Relatives wrong?

How is Turles, being the half brother of Vegito and Gogeta and relations with other of at least Goku's families, supposed to be wrong? Are you the admin? I am just trying to help of this wiki based on what I had learned from its articles. Sonic2479 (talk) 12:17, April 5, 2019

It was already discussed a while back that Turles wasn't a relative of Goku. Rogeta234 (talk) 13:51, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

but it was decided to keep the info on the pages anyway as was shown in the very talk pages it was discussed on, so go ahead and put it back Sonic. FlatZone (talk) 15:00, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah Turles is considered Goku’s brother. It’s even listed in Goku’s family relations Infobox. I put back the information Sonic2479. Even though technically they’re not brothers, there’s still an official source that says they are so the information should be kept regardless. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:04, April 6, 2019 (UTC))

The guy who i thought was dragonemperor

Turns out it was Dragonemepror second account. So how long is his ban now.Shin the science guy (talk) 14:56, April 7, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

Figures, it was him. I think after pulling that, he should be banned for a few months. Rogeta234 (talk) 16:11, April 7, 2019 (UTC)

Ultra Instinct

Just like how “Ultra Instinct” is the name used for all the forms but with different descriptions to distinguish the forms and Beerus in the English dub calling it “Autonomous Ultra Instinct”, then that means it’s the English name for all the forms regardless of their dub appearances because that’s the main name for all the forms in the English version since Beerus called it that. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:43, May 13, 2019 (UTC))

Last I checked, It was Whis who called it that in both versions. Besides, the name might change later on. If it does, I hope there'll be an apology in order. Rogeta234 (talk) 00:17, May 14, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah it would’ve been simple just to keep as “ultra instinct” but we’ll wait and see what they do with the name or if they’re ever going to change it back to ultra instinct. In the meantime, we should just leave it as it for now and wait for future episodes and if you still have problems keeping the name as autonomous ultra instinct, you can speak to Yonedge about it because he changed it to that so i’m kind of going according to what he inputs since he’s an admin. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:25, May 14, 2019 (UTC))

Alright. I'll try to get it through when I can. If I can't, I'll have to continue to get the point across. You can't change on what's already been established. Rogeta234 (talk) 00:36, May 14, 2019 (UTC)

Broly in Ultra Pack 1

Stop undoing the edit. If you read Ken Xyro's twitter, he pretty much confirmed that Broly will be a new character for Ultra Pack 1 but the form that he will take is not revealed yet as of right now. Have you even been watching any of Seereax or Super Saiyan Cabby or even RikudouFox's videos regarding Broly and Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Vegeta as new characters for the upcoming DLC? Please don’t undo edits when you’re not a 100 percent sure about something or haven’t done enough research yet. Even if I didn’t give the proof, you should at least research the information added before deciding to undo someone’s edits. Don’t just undo edits just for the heck of undoing if you don’t know that there is a fact that pointed out that Broly will be in the game. Kindly research it and come to your conclusion when someone adds in new information that you don’t know about even if they don’t give evidence about it. I'll give you the source. [2] (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 11:09, June 20, 2019 (UTC))

Broly being in Ultra Pack 1 was debunked and he's not coming. You've won this argument Rogeta234. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:25, June 21, 2019 (UTC))

Told you so! Next time, look before you leap. Rogeta234 (talk) 00:55, June 22, 2019 (UTC)


Rogeta, I suggest you go to the SS4 talkpage to discuss the dispute you had with Flatzone's edits and please discuss this with him in a civilized manner and leave the name calling out of it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:18, September 26, 2019 (UTC))

I'm telling you, the dink is just using video game logic that doesn't apply to the anime. Plus, the guy has a bit of a temper.Rogeta234 (talk) 17:20, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

But that's no excuse to insult him especially after I told you to quit the name calling and be respectful which you have failed to do as seen in your response to this message. How is Flatzone going to agree with your dispute if you’re going to call him names? He will just continue to disagree with you for not being respectful regardless of your opinion due to the heat of the moment and the whole situation may escalate into something much worse that's why it is important to act respectful so situations like this don't happen. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 18:04, September 26, 2019 (UTC))


When you disputed FlatZone's edit you also called him a "dink", which is an insult, you should know to refrain from insulting other users. --Neffyarious (talk) 17:39, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but he kind of is when using that logic. Anyway, it's been dealt with.Rogeta234 (talk) 19:05, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

No it hasn't " Watch yourself, little boy. " Here he goes again. FlatZone (talk) 20:06, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

You're kind of one to talk with insults. Rogeta234 (talk) 20:16, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Hey you can't go insulting others and think you won't be insulted back, that's on you. FlatZone (talk) 20:20, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

I'm just saying, man. You've been acting like you're the c*** of the walk for a while. It was probably what lead to your banishment on the fanon wiki. Rogeta234 (talk) 20:23, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Rogeta, I told you to stop with the insults and yet you still continue, your running out of warnings. Flat, if someone insults you, it's not an excuse to insult them back, go to an admin. --Neffyarious (talk) 20:26, September 26, 2019 (UTC)  I'm sorry, but that's the way he is. You need to talk to him about it. Rogeta234 (talk) 20:28, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

He just called me a cunt and says thats just the way it is and he's not banned? Wow. This is ridiculous. FlatZone (talk) 20:29, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

No, I just called you cock of the walk. It means that you act more important than others in a group.Rogeta234 (talk) 20:32, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

You think that, I don't. Never did. You have some sort of issue with me and that's all on you because I don't know you, don't care about you and don't want to, ever. Take your grudge elsewhere. FlatZone (talk) 20:36, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

It's true, look up the definition and you'll see.Rogeta234 (talk) 20:38, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

It's not. I know the definition and guess what? Not me. You on the other hand it is. You edit war with people ALLLLLLL the time. There is proof on this very wikia. What you are doing is called reflecting. You need to go and bother somebody else because it won't work on me. FlatZone (talk) 20:44, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

hop in discord

https://discord.gg/Tr5GfRt FlatZone (talk) 19:29, September 27, 2019 (UTC)

Edit Warring

Stop edit warring. If someone undoes your edits because they don’t agree with it then leave it and try to argue out your point on why the info should be changed in either the users talk page or articles talkpage. I will try to discuss this with you in the talkpage. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 15:32, October 3, 2019 (UTC))

I just sent some things to you on your talk page. Hopefully it will be enough to convince you. Rogeta234 (talk) 15:36, October 3, 2019 (UTC)


Since you were on a last warning for the last incident that occurred, your getting a two week block for the recent edit warring. --Neffyarious (talk) 16:41, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

How did you do this?

This was from when you went to remove Merus.



See how you've somehow got the debut, characteristics, status etc into the contents? And how it's listed again when you scroll down prior to "Appearance"? How did you do that? I'm sure it wasn't intended because this oddly seems to happen a fair amount with different people. Did you move a line or something? I could do with knowing to see if there's some way of avoiding it. - Bullza (talk) 00:17, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

I delete them before I publish the edit. It's annoying, but it saves someone else the trouble. Rogeta234 (talk) 00:34, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

That's what I do as well to get rid of them. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:03, October 22, 2019 (UTC))

You delete what? It was you Rogeta that added all that extra stuff. You added 2,100 bytes of information which was from all the infobox info that was added a second time. Something Doctorwho7 did yesterday.
How did you add 2,100 of bytes to a page when you only went to remove Merus?Bullza (talk) 01:24, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

Blame how the wiki is made. It automatically happens when you make an edit. Rogeta234 (talk) 01:27, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

Because as he was removing the Merus name the first time, The information already in the infobox popped up and he forgot to remove it before he published it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:37, October 22, 2019 (UTC))

So you're saying it just automatically appears whenever you go to edit the page and you just have to manually remove it each time before you publish? It doesn't really happen that often that that could be the case. We'd always be fixing that error then or is it only Goku's page that this happens?Bullza (talk) 02:36, October 22, 2019 (UTC)


Merus knows about Ultra Instinct and he is teaching Goku how to tap into its power again. How is Merus not his mentor? Yeah they are both partners training in the fight against Moro but since Merus is the one teaching Goku how to tap into Ultra Instinct, Merus should be considered a mentor. It is not like they are just sparring partners where one is not teaching something to a the other partner they are training with just to get stronger without trying to learn something. That is what a mentor means when someone teaches someone about something and tries to give help and advice which is exactly what Merus is doing with Goku. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 00:56, October 22, 2019 (UTC))

Because we don't know if this will be a long term mentorship, unlike Goku's previous mentors. It's way too soon to assume that. Rogeta234 (talk) 01:26, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

Long term or not, Merus is still mentoring Goku to learn Ultra Instinct so that automatically makes him his mentor. It doesn't matter how long that person has been mentored, it is about if the person got mentored or not in which case Merus is currently mentoring Goku which is not assumption that is fact if you are reading and looking at the chapters. You even said it yourself that this is a mentorship. I think Merus being Goku's mentor is valid. Same thing with Pybara to Vegeta. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:43, October 22, 2019 (UTC))

Well it's not like all of Goku's mentors are long term, he was with Korin for was it just 3 days? Didn't even really teach him anything, he just chased him around till his stamina improved. He would have spent more time with Merus already.

Then again there's no urgency to change something. Let's give it another chapter and see what happens there. If Goku ends up achieving Ultra Instinct thanks to Merus then I don't think that's too different from Goku gaining strength from running around with Korin.Bullza (talk) 02:32, October 22, 2019 (UTC)


Hi i saw that you moved my screenshots of Bardock Xeno in the Bardock Gallery. Bardock never wear that armor (except when is the Masked Saiyan or Masked Saiyan Great Ape) and in Dragon Ball Heroes, with that armor, is the Xeno Counterpart. The official site for Super Dragon Ball Heroes (http://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh/cardlist/index.php?search=true) is the proof, if you don't know how to search it i'll explain it to you. Please revert your edit and please research with official sources before editing. TheCarloalberto95 (talk) 16:32, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

That is not Bardock Xeno. In Dragon Ball Heroes, Xeno Bardock does not where the time breaker outfit you mentioned and that is actually regular Bardock since time breaker Bardock is main Bardock. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 16:50, November 4, 2019 (UTC))

But the official card for DBH say that only Bardock Xeno (バーダック:ゼノ) wear this armor and Bardock (バーダック) only wear his classic armor. I took the screen in-game for those cards, i'm not saying that you are wrong but the cards are labelled Bardock:Xeno. Just go on the official site or i can link you some photos  TheCarloalberto95 (talk) 17:01, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah strange. I looked it up myself and confused why they are calling Time Breaker Bardock Xeno Bardock, this is something that Neffyarious might be able to explain so go ask him since he has good knowledge about Heroes or perhaps Bullza. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 17:07, November 4, 2019 (UTC))

Alright thanks TheCarloalberto95 (talk) 17:14, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Heroes calls Time Breaker Bardock "Xeno Bardock" (or Bardock (Xeno), Bardock: Xeno, etc.) to differentiate him from the original Bardock, for the same reason why Time Patrol Trunks is called "Xeno Trunks". Regular Bardock only ever wears his original armour - whenever he appears in his Time Breaker or Time Patrol armours, it's Xeno Bardock. The Super Bardock Saga shows that the point where the two split is when Bardock is sent back in time - the original Bardock goes on to fight Chilled, whereas Xeno Bardock is intercepted by Towa and turned into the Masked Saiyan.

The Dragon Ball Super Card Game for the record uses the same naming scheme, if you need further proof. Dominodalek (talk) 18:07, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Exatly, I asked to Neffyarious lets wait that he responds and talk on is talk page so we can decide wath we can do TheCarloalberto95 (talk) 18:16, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Ok guys Neffyarious said that is Xeno Bardock so i'm gonna fix the images TheCarloalberto95 (talk) 18:45, November 4, 2019 (UTC)


Neffy, don't you think that having a month block is a bit much? Can you change it to 2 weeks instead?


You should know that calling people things like "little boy" is not okay. Even if you feel like you are being antagonized or if you think someone has done something wrong (like bad language) - go to an admin, don't engage them yourself. --Neffyarious (talk) 16:48, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid you should've handled it better by having him blocked as well. That guy is going to continue to belittle people like he did in the past. Rogeta234 (talk) 17:09, January 1, 2020 (UTC)


The featurette refers to Goku and Frieza as tied for no. 1 strongest on the team (and thus - according to the source - stronger than Vegeta/17/Gohan), that's the only power related statement, no mention of Vegeta's strength in relation to 17 and Gohan, so that's all can be put in the "Statements" sub-section of the power section. --Neffyarious (talk) 23:30, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

That was released at the start of the T.O.P. Later on, it's shown that the source wasn't accurate. Vegeta was shown to be much stronger than Gohan and 17.Rogeta234 (talk) 23:33, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, but that section is for what is said in the linked sources. Also it's just saying that they are weaker than Goku/Frieza, not that they are weaker than Vegeta - but it does not say that Vegeta is stronger than them either. --Neffyarious (talk) 23:36, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

It should probably be stated that this scale was released before the T.O.P. even started to avoid further confusion.Rogeta234 (talk) 23:38, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

It says so on Goku/Frieza/Vegeta's pages (since Goku/Vegeta got new forms - shifting the order), but since Gohan/17 did not get power ups it's not mentioned on their pages. --Neffyarious (talk) 23:43, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

Kid/Little Goku

Please stop edit warring, if you want it changed to Kid discuss it first. --Neffyarious (talk) 17:05, March 19, 2020 (UTC)

You are being warned again. Do not edit war over the Little Goku thing again or I will have to block you. If you want something changed in the article discuss it in the talkpage like Neffyarious told you previously.Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  21:58,3/29/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif

If you do that, then I will have to report you. I'm just being honest with you guys. Rogeta234 (talk) 22:22, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

In some official material GT small Goku was never referred to as Kid Goku, only as Little Goku and that is why that person keeps changing that. They should find the source though. FlatZone (talk) 22:31, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

This is not your argument, FlatZero. Rogeta234 (talk) 22:51, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

Rogeta, reporting Sosuagwu won't do anything. You're the one breaking the wiki's rules and etiquette. Please just resolve this on a talk page, I promise it'll be easier for you too. There's a reason we have these rules, it's the best way to reach a consensus. — FinalTalk 03:22, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

Indeed you need to settle this matter via talk, and you cannot tell someone they can't participate. We have an official name for GT Goku: "Little Goku", if you can put forth a source that calls him "Kid Goku" then it can be changed. --Neffyarious (talk) 20:34, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

You know, throughout my life I've mainly been getting the short of the stick. You guys aren't making anything better for me. So if you want this to stop, all you have to do is concede that it is Kid Goku. It's that simple. Rogeta234 (talk) 21:05, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

Nobody is going to appease you and just because you want them to. Little Goku is more official for the GT Small Goku. You keep throwing around threats and arguing over this for no reason. FlatZone (talk) 22:53, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

Again, this does not concern you FlatZero. Rogeta234 (talk) 23:40, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

Threatening to keep breaking the rules doesn't really help your point, use the talk page. Also, again, you can't just tell someone they can't participate in discussing a wiki-related matter. Especially because you refuse to make an actual article talk page section on this. — FinalTalk 03:13, March 31, 2020 (UTC)


I see that you removed another user's message on my talk page. Rogeta, you should know it's not really okay to go around deleting other people's messages by now. This should go without saying, but please don't do that. It doesn't even really make sense... the edit history is public and super easy to get to. — FinalTalk 03:13, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

Edit Warring

Because you were on a warning for edit warring on the Little Goku issue you are getting a two month block for the edit war on the Ultimate Shenron page.

Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  15:16,4/5/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif


You are given another chance to follow site policy so I will be removing your year block and also because you just got off from a 4 month block recently. The next time you edit war on an article without discussing a disputed edit on an article or user talk then I will have to give you back your year block. Consider this a final warning. You not only edit warred on the Goku page but you also decided to put back your edit you made on the Ultimate Shenron page that was reverted because of an edit dispute and you got blocked over it for not taking the proper procedure to handle disputed edits. Though you put back the edit and still edit warring on the article, I will let this one slide since what you added is true but you need to understand when somebody disputes your edit, the best thing is just to take it to the talkpage instead of continuing to edit war with a user disputing your edit.

Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  16:29,8/6/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif

These images I found were mine. Do not remove them. Just a warning. —This unsigned comment was made by SSJ2 Beat (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

The images maybe yours, but they are poor in quality and we don't allow images that are poor in quality. Since you don't know the rules of this wiki, why don't you just get out of here and just continue your sexual fantasies of SSJ2 Note on DeviantArt and leave use be. Rogeta234 (talk) 20:46, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

Name calling

Please refrain from name calling and maintain civility on this wiki.--Jack Jackson DB Fanon/MUC Wiki admin [mod] 23:00, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

It's not my fault this guy has no idea how a wiki works. Tell him that. Rogeta234 (talk) 23:27, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

I'll find more SSJ2 Note images with good quality —This unsigned comment was made by SSJ2 Beat (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Maybe you should stop. You can't even sign your posts. Rogeta234 (talk) 23:34, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

That's no excuse to resort to name-calling. This wiki has rules and policies against such acts. Name-calling can be considered as a personal attack. Maintain civility on this wiki. It's really not that hard to do.--Jack Jackson DB Fanon/MUC Wiki admin [mod] 00:24, August 8, 2020 (UTC)

Just keep out of this matter. If he ever messes up again, talk to him. Rogeta234 (talk) 00:53, August 8, 2020 (UTC)

I've already have talked to him about edit warring. I'm here to advise you against breaking the wiki's rules. There's no rule stating that I can't advise someone to adhere to the site rules. In future don't resort to name-calling.--Jack Jackson DB Fanon/MUC Wiki admin [mod] 01:08, August 8, 2020 (UTC)

I'm trying my best. —This unsigned comment was made by SSJ2 Beat (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I'm afraid your best isn't good enough. You'll have to do better. Rogeta234 (talk) 18:22, August 10, 2020 (UTC)

Name calling #2

Rogeta, I would like to ask you to cease it with the name calling and remain civil and respectful especially while discussing things with others even if you are not the cause of any discussion that ends up being heated or potentially can turn into one. I've noticed that you've been referring to FlatZone as "FlatZero" as way to twist his username to use as a form of insult, and since FlatZone doesn’t feel comfortable with it, I would like to ask you to stop and refer to him by his proper name. I don't care if you are using as a nickname for him, the bottom line is FlatZone doesn't like the name, it's an insult and I'm asking you to stop referring him to as such or else there will be problems here with you going forward. Not just the edit warring, but you have been numerously warned on the name-calling and outright rudeness but you still refuse to comply to the rules on these very issues and go on to them anyway and have been blocked on other wikis for similar issues. Being you were on a warning on the edit warring, if I have to hear from a user that you are causing disruption by being rude and insulting toward them and it ends up being true, from here on out it will be a very lengthy block or worse infinite so this is a chance for you to follow site rules on remaining civil just like how I gave you a chance to follow site rules regarding edit wars. These are not hard to do at all. It will do you and this wiki some good for maintaining order and peace without anyone getting in trouble so I advise you to follow these from here on out. Same thing that applies with users that you come in conflict that were the cause of turning a discussion heated and/or the first ones to insult or be disrespectful around you during the discussion, instead of fighting back, the best thing is for you to then you report it to me or any other admin and we will deal with whichever user was the cause of the conflict and flaming in said discussion you were in and was targeted against you so things don't turn worser in the discussions.

Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  13:05,8/10/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif

It's not my fault that a few other wikis are run by degenerates who don't know their ass from the hole in the ground. Besides, Flatzone had it coming for being such a troublesome user in the past. If you were to ban me from this wiki, you'd be praying I don't come to your place and hakai you out of this world. Because this wiki is one of the many comforts of my life in this terrible time! Also, you'd be the last person to ban me here because you're so out of control with your edit reverts without providing explanations. Bottom line: You need to become a better admin or someone might replace you. Rogeta234 (talk) 13:14, August 10, 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't matter maintain respect and civility while here or there will be further issues and someone will get in trouble in which case if you have been told numerous times to be respectful here and you refuse to comply then there will be a block made for failing to comply so I advise you to respectful from now on. The past is the past so leave it there and maintain respect from now on or there will be further issues with you moving forward and someone has to be dealt with. And all this while you haven’t been really respectful to me either and you just threatened me by saying "you will go to my place to hakai me". Threatening an administrator is in no way going to slide with me especially when it is targeted toward me, when I'm warning you to try to guide you in the right path here to become a better user, so if you want to be rude and threatening toward an administrator then there is a place for you in the ban list so cease this very action now or there will be a consequence. What is it so hard for you to be respectful? Just be respectful and maintain civility and there won't be problems. And for the edit reverts, I only revert edits that clearly mess up the formatting of a page, bad edits, vandalism, and just poorly written text that the readers probably wouldn’t be able to understand and it's not like I don't explain every edit I undo because people are not going to explain every edit reversions especially on why it is obvious the said edit was reverted, some without needing explanation on the reverters part though you are right that I'm bit out of control with the edit reverts and revert good faith edits and need to provide explanation sometimes when I do revert edits so people don't have to be mad about their edits being reverted and I need to improve on this but this is so out of topic to the issue in your talkpage we are discussing at hand. The issue here is about you being rude to a user and I'm asking you to stop or there will be problems here with you in the future and hopefully this is the last time I have to come to your talkpage regarding this issue. So I'm asking you to change for the greater good.

Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  14:15,8/10/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif

And stop removing the messages I send to people in my talkpage that doesn't belong to you.Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  14:34,8/10/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif

I'm not removing messages, dictator. Rogeta234 (talk) 16:12, August 10, 2020 (UTC)

Well you were if you check the history of my talkpage. And since you refused to follow site policy on the rule of remaining respectful toward other users, especially toward an admin, you are well deserved for the infinite ban that was given to you just recently. I've told you many times not to insult or disrespect users in any form or way and there you go calling me a "dictator" when I'm simply trying to do my duties here as an admin. You still haven't learned anything from the blocks or warnings given to you and you were given a chance to at least fix up on some of these behaviors but it appears that you haven't ever even tried to own up to these mistakes either to avoid doing them and then you continue to go back into doing the very same things that would put you into trouble here again. And after all the advises and warnings we gave to you in trying to avoid all of this, it hasn't paid off at all and you still continue to argue with the admins after you get blocked for not listening to the rules instead of just learning from your mistakes and complying with the rules so you don’t have to face the consequences repeatedly here for your actions. So you what? You only have yourself to blame for your infinite ban from this wiki and because you are blocked from this site for good, you are thus a user that is no longer wanted nor needed here anymore since you have shown your unwillingness to follow site policy and be respectful toward other users especially toward an admin, even though you've been on this wiki for nearly 5 years and you should know by now not to do these types of things. Farewell Rogeta, knowing you through my time in this wiki, it is sad to see you permanently banned from the wiki like this but what's done is done and you know very well why you are in this position you are currently in.Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  20:47,8/10/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif

Yes, you did. In fact, you're doing it right now.

After you were blocked last time, you went to our official Discord server to make death threats, publicly insult Sosuagwu, harass me through my Direct Messages, threatened to commit suicide and blame me and Final if you died for not revoking your block (even though I wasn't involved with said block in the first place). ~ Yon ~Want to join my army?Visit my talk page! 21:14, August 10, 2020 (UTC)

I only wish the best of luck to you in that one day you will be exilled from this wiki as punishment for kicking all the users out. You're lucky I don't know where you live, otherwise I would've found you and beaten you up into a bloody pulp. Rogeta234 (talk) 21:11, August 10, 2020 (UTC)

You just lost the right to use your own talk page. It has been made pretty clear that you didn't even deserve it in the first place. ~ Yon ~Want to join my army?Visit my talk page! 21:20, August 10, 2020 (UTC)

He'd messaged me on Discord about this. I told him the block would stay and at best after some time had passed perhaps we could see about removing it as we did with Meshack but now that I see the death threat any chance of that has gone. He's to stay blocked permanently, it's nobodies fault but his own. It is your local hero, Bullza! Have any questions? Talk here!

02:46, August 11, 2020 (UTC)