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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Storm Z Ball talk projects 13:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Photos

Hey! Yeah, recently we discussed and came up with a policy to filter out undesirable images (such as GIFs, which certain users may have trouble viewing with an inadequate Internet connection) and fan art (because Dragon Ball Wiki is a place for all things in the canon series, and a separate fanon wiki exists where fans can host their own interpretations). If you'd like, you're free to try your reasoning on the forum's Wiki cleanup, image policy thread (for fan images, you'll want to pay attention to the thread's Fan artwork and Confirm rationales sections). Storm Z Ball talk projects 13:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Username

Sorry but no. Wikia uses a shared user database and has over 8000 wiki databases stored. It's impossible to rename any user because that would require running a username change, and fixing contrib names with a half dozen more queries, on each and every one of the 8000 databases. Unfortunately it's a technically unfeasible thing to do due to how MediaWiki handles usernames. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Feb 20, 2009 @ 05:32 (UTC)

Although renaming one person wouldn't correspond going through 8000 wiki databases. It would have been nice to maintain the same user name on all the wikis, that's all I had wanted to do. - PrinceZarbon 15:29, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT quotes

Pardon me, Prince Zarbon, but can you also find the Dragon Ball GT quotes please? Thank you. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem. I will submit one quote per character, my comrade. - PrinceZarbon 21:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Let's try Baby and Super 17. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Prince Zarbon

Let's also try Pan, Bulma, Chichi, Bra, Syn Shenron, Omega Shenron, and more. You can see my name on the articles. Dekoshu talk contrib 22:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I only submit ones in relation to villains; my favorite characters (I'm a villain fan). But after I finish all the villains, I will do heroes too (like pan, bra, etc.) for you. - PrinceZarbon 22:11, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I adore both Dragon Ball heroes and villains. Dekoshu talk contrib 22:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

That's nice to hear though I'm limited to liking villains. As you can see on my user page, all my favorite characters are villains (who get killed). - PrinceZarbon 22:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Try the other one like Bulla and Bulma, but continue on doing the villains' articles. I don't have a clue what kind of quote you would give them. Dekoshu talk contrib 23:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Prince Zarbon. Try Chichi, and Bulma. I will appreciate your hard work, intelligence, and your efforts. I will inform you. Dekoshu talk contrib 23:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

List of characters who didn't get a quote in their article

Here is the list for you, Prince Zarbon. I repeat, I will inform you. Is this helping you? Dekoshu talk contrib 00:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

An easier way of knowing which articles don't have quotes is to consult this page. It will tell you every article that transcludes the {{Quote}} template, so naturally any article that is not listed is lacking a quote header. Storm Z Ball talk projects 01:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
That makes sense. I did add quotations to most of them. It'd take a while to get through them all, but I'll accomplish it soon. - PrinceZarbon 02:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Prince Zarbon. Dekoshu talk contrib 12:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


Thats alot of Favorite Characters!!!--Baracuss 04:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks. They're all villains and victims. I don't like heroes. (but you probably already noticed that mate.) - PrinceZarbon 04:15, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Lol you're telling me!!!--Baracuss 04:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Heh! Maybe one day it'll start a trend and everyone could list all their favorite characters. - PrinceZarbon 06:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Prince Zarbon

I wanted to say I am sorry for you getting you involved in a conflict. I admit that I have a weakness. And I said that even the admins aren't perfect. Just because everyone says they are entitled doesn't mean they should be jerks and impose it on everyone. They should not be letting their opinions become their downfall. The truth is greater than opinion, no matter how honest it is. No matter what user or admin says to me, I am not always entitled to my opinion, and that is the choice I make. Some users don't have to know me. I'm just a regular user with regular interests. Even the admins aren't that special, to be honest. Dekoshu talk contrib 20:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

When it comes to adminship, I've come across many incapable ones who have been highly erroroneous themselves. However, to strive for the best possible outcome for a best possible encyclopedic resource is what we're all trying to accomplish. Oftentimes, I find that the best way to avoid edit wars, for example, is to bring the issue up to more than one administrator so that the person who is actually creating the problem doesn't have anywhere to run. It's also more than often that a person creating a problem happens to be a vandalizer. I myself am against vandalism as it constitutes a form of unproductive response. We're all civilized to the extent that we try our best to maintain a nice resource for people. We should also maintain a civility and show each other respect so that we may be able to progress as editors and moreso, friends. When it comes to your admitting you have a problem, that may be the first step to solving it. I congratulate you; many people will not say they are incorrect, even if they are. - PrinceZarbon 20:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

You know, it's not just civility and respect. It's also kindness and helpfulness. Demanding too much respect isn't a good thing, and I don't want any user to be carried away by their opinions, as well as their point of views. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

And I will try my best to be kind and helpful in any possible way as that also corresponds to being the best possible editor one can be. However, I don't go about demanding respect, for example. Respect is something that takes a very long time to earn, my comrade. - PrinceZarbon 21:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

All right then, Prince Zarbon. Anyways, being netural doesn't strive someone to be the best, not even for characters. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts for putting a considerable amount of quotes in articles, Prince Zarbon. Don't forget the Great Ape Baby and Bulma one. Dekoshu talk contrib 06:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

At the moment I am busy trying to bring to people's attention the inaccurate and fan-made names of some characters. Much of my discussion can be found here: Wrong Names.

I understand. So how will you get the proper names for them? Dekoshu talk contrib 06:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Their proper names are not available. The best possible names to give them are "Unnamed Namekian Elder" for example...for the character they wrongfully named Tsuno (which is not his name), for example. Or Rittain, which is also wrong, should be named "Unnamed Bird-Like Frieza Soldier" Or "Unnamed Frieza Soldier" - PrinceZarbon 06:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Garlic Jr. Saga

Hey u picked my most favorite Garlic Jr. quote :) cool

You're welcome! - PrinceZarbon 15:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey, about the Zarbon article, well, ur named after Zarbon so I'm sure you'd know about his dialogue kept intact. So, I thought to be fair I'd include the Ocean episode where he says that, since many of us knew it better than the redub. He says the exact same thing in Zarbon Transformed. And besides, are you with me when I say the redub ruined Zarbon's voice? That voice is SO not Zarbon! Paul Dobson did an excellent Zarbon voice, and in the episode Fighting Power: One Million?, during Frieza's flashback, Christopher Sabat did a pretty good job on doing the same Australian accent Zarbon voice, so we know he's capable of it. Ghostkaiba297 05:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I would prefer if only one episodic reference is given. And if I'd have to choose, I would choose the "Surprise" rather than "Transformed" only because it's the newer version. Since I'm adding quotations for all characters, I'd prefer if they were all funi versions and not the Ocean dubs. But for informational purposes, I did like the Ocean dub a bit more. The quotation itself remained fairly the same so I don't want to give improper credit; I'd have to either list the Ocean version or the funi version.

The difference is rather large:

  • Ever hear the old saying that beauty is only skin deep? Well, right now, all you can see is the beauty.


  • You ever hear the saying beauty is only skin deep? Well, right now, you're only seeing the beauty.

I can only list one, not both. And prefer the Funi version only because I am only listing newest ones. - PrinceZarbon 05:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Oh, I must've missed it. Well, thanx for letting me know that important detail. I'll try to work it out so I don't make enemies with the guy who added my most favorite Garlic Jr. quote to his article. But y can't u add one episode reference for characters who only appeared in the first 53/68 episodes? Such as Raditz, Nappa, Dodoria, Zarbon, etc.? Some people who don't know the redub might be wondering "What crack is this guy smoking? That's not what the episode's called." I'm all for the quotes thing, but I really don't like the redub for the first 53 eps. So can't we work together - you doing FUNimation ones and I doing Ocean ones? And there aren't that many characters that fit that description anyway. Ghostkaiba297 06:02, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
A few things here. To separate the Ocean and give it a whole playing field on the basis of 53 episodes would be a waste of time. It's too similar to the Funi dialogue to re-credit the same things in different formats. It's nonsensical. But you know that the likes of Zarbon, Dodoria, etc. are my favorite characters so I'd want the most encyclopedic and less cluttered and most easily accessible and best resources for them. If people want the Ocean dub, they can easily locate it on db wiki through the search and/or namek saga link, which lists for them the Ocean dub. But there's no purpose in re-linking the same exact quotes on the difference of two or three words per sentence just to credit the Ocean dub. I put aside my personal love for Ocean because it was edited, even though much of the voices were good. It cut out much of the best scenes (and for a true fan of Zarbon and Dodoria) that was a horrible thing to do on their part. For example, my most favorite scene (where Zarbon headbutts Vegeta consecutively 7 times in a row) is deleted completely from the Ocean version. How can I support that? Naughty, naughty editors. - PrinceZarbon 06:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I see. But since the redub is the newest, that makes it almost like an entirely different version, right? I mean, the details of Guldo's death. Ocean has him fall with his head not attached, while the redub shows his head rolling off and cursing Vegeta for his interference. So, even though you love the Ocean dub as much as I do, you'll go with FUNimation redub just because they edited out the scene where Zarbon headbutts Vegeta? (probably not on this site, as most people here are from America) but I go by Ocean's version of Episodes 168-276, and I didn't like that Ocean had Bibidi calling Buu "ungrateful fool" as opposed to "stupid idiot" in FUNimation. Or that they cut out the details of Smitty's death (but that was for good reason, and at least they let us know Buu killed him). But if you'll look up Ikose, you'll notice I had him saying "It's enough to make you wanna run home crying, isn't it kid?" In Ocean, which aired in my country, they changed "run home crying" to "run home and cry". In my opinion, those versions of the episodes are the official ones, as DBZ could use a second voice change after about 114 episodes of a different voices. But that's only in my country, in America the official version is the one which retains its FUNimation voices for every single episode from Ginyu Assault to Goku's Next Journey... wow, must be monotonous, 223 episodes. Point is, on this site I'm disregarding the version I go by in my quotes for what Americans would consider the official English version.
What you seem to forget is that neither the Ocean nor the Funimation versions are the official. And you asked me which voice I prefer instant response would have to be neither since the Japanese version was the best as it retained everything in its originality [original and exact references to the manga]. In the case of Zarbon, Hayami Sho did the absolute best job. In the case of the music, both Ocean's and Funi's are not comparable (not even close) to the greatness of the symphonic majesty that Shunsuke Kikuchi has created [Kyoufu no Ginyuu Tokusentai is the best tune ever]. A true fan would never prefer edited garbage to the original uncut death of Guldo (his head is supposed to fall off and roll on the ground) And when it comes to that scene, yes the Ocean version sucked because it edited out almost every awesome scene that I can think the top of my head:
  • 1. Zarbon's brutal takedown of Vegeta. (headbutts, piledrivers, smackings, spinwheels, bicycle kicks)
  • 2. Recoome's brutal onslaught unleashed at Gohan and Vegeta. (neck cracking, bone breaking, jaw smashing)
  • 3. Guldo's execution. (head snaps off, rolls, and talks before Vegeta blows him to oblivion)
  • 4. Zarbon's execution. (Vegeta's hand is rammed into his stomach and blood oozes out while we see his hand still jammed into his stomach before Vegeta bashes his arm clean through his stomach again and through his backside, mutilating him before sending him to a watery grave)
  • 5. Dodoria and Zarbon's execution of Namekians. (Yes, this entire scene was edited and much was cut out. Dodoria rams his head into the Namekian, Zarbon drop kicks one into the air, then bloodies another by frying him, Dodoria blasts another Namekian and we see his crispy body, then he lunges at Elder Muuri and holds him by the neck as we watch him snap his neck and his body drop, lifeless [another one of my favorite scenes]. Dodoria also kills Cargo, Dende's brother, which was also edited out, another thing I really liked. In the Ocean dub they said "he got away". YEAH RIGHT!
  • 6. Nappa's rampage [after Nappa kills broadcasters, people are mutilated in midair. In the Ocean dub, Tien says "I can see their parachutes". Give me a break. Nappa mutilated them very nicely.
  • 7. Guldo punching Gohan and Krillin. I hated those stupid yellow stars they put to cover up all the best action. The Namek/Frieza debacle is my favorite saga and Ocean ruined all the best neckbreaking, bonecracking action scenes by editing them out.
  • 8. Smitty! and VAN ZANT! Their deaths SHOULD NOT have been edited out. That was excellence defined. I love magnificent death scenes where a character liquifies and fills into another character's mouth before his guts explode from the inside out. How dare they remove that. Not to mention the excellent scene where Smitty and Van Zant execute old people. Another one of my favorites. As a true villain fan, I can NEVER EVER support what Ocean did. It was a degradation of the series overall. And these scenes, among many others, are some of my favorites. No true fan can defend deletion and editing of the best scenes.

The only reason you seem to like Ocean is because of their voice actors. Well, they aren't the original voice actors either. The original voice actors are the Japanese (which did the best job). All Ocean truly did was cut the series by 14 episodes flat (which was a bad decision, plus they ruined the background music by adding a horrible monotone soundtrack).

And since funi retained the scenes closest to the Japanese version, I take their side. And now they have finally released the series on dvd seasons with the UNCUT JAPANESE MUSIC instead of the trash on TV. So, of course I support UNCUT version as opposed to EDITED. I can't condone Ocean's edits, no way, no how mate. I don't want to offend your favoritism, but I myself prefer UNCUT as opposed to EDITED.- PrinceZarbon 02:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Smitty and Van Zant? They edited out DETAILS of Smitty's death, but they showed Buu turning to liquid and going toward Smitty's mouth, then it cut to Hercule's eyes seeming to pop out, then it cuts back to Buu who is in the form of a pink explosion, and anyone can deduce what Buu did to Smitty. As for Van Zant, they didn't edit out HIS death at all. They clearly showed Evil Buu vaporizing Van Zant with an energy wave. And on the Dodoria killing Cargo issue, Dodoria saying Cargo escaped can easily be explained by the fact that he is stupid. And Ocean never really did any episodes where I live following Episode 54, until Episode 168, which was fairly similar to FUNimation except for voices, music, and SLIGHT dialogue changes. Ghostkaiba297 06:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe I shouldn't let people underestimate of who I am

I noticed that a lot of people can have doubts, but all I can say is that we should realize our faults, even admins have their strengths and weaknesses, no matter how much they don't admit it or do admit it. I also wanted to say that I am not alone. I had better times outside the talk pages like these, and be with friends who I can actually meet. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY should tell me to stop loving my family, not even admins. Dekoshu talk contrib 02:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't know what you are talking about since I myself am not an this connected to some other chat you had prior? But yeah, family is important. - PrinceZarbon 02:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I understand, but I never consider you as an administrator, Prince Zarbon, and now, I believe that family is vastly important, and unlike the Internet, which is just plumb neutral and all, your family are with you. It's a shame people are going to be afraid when December 12, 2012 will start. Dekoshu talk contrib 02:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes I agree about family...but what does this have to do with any of the editing or contribution on the db wikia. Is this some random reason you want to chat? And what has to do with December 12, 2012? - PrinceZarbon 03:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

It's the year where most are supposed to die and the world will end. I refuse to enjoy it. And no, this isn't some kind of random reason. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't believe in "doomsday" scenarios. The world was supposed to end on 7/7/07 or 6/6/06 [that one I remember well; ha ha]. And what about 8/8/08. And this year's 9/9/09. I don't believe in doomsday scenarios mate. btw, what nationality are you/what is your religion/race? - PrinceZarbon 03:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I am Sigmos. I have no religion, and Dekoshu is already dead for his stupidity. He sucks anyway. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand what you are talking about. - PrinceZarbon 03:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

YES! Show me your moves! I am useless, I tell you. USELESS! D:Dekoshu talk contrib 03:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about? - PrinceZarbon 03:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Is this supposed to be a joke? Because I'm really not laughing. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I am trying to edit some articles so if you have something important to say, please say it... - PrinceZarbon 03:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I want some fun, but now it's killed, so I want to be more serious, or were you serious and this is all I had? Anyways, let's go to the article. How about a quote for Great Ape Baby? No, seriously. All I asked for was really an quote for Great Ape Baby. That's all for today, friend. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC) Thanks a lot, Prince Zarbon. I can your already impressive memory and intelligence of the quotes for Dragon Ball. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I did Great Monkey Baby for you. Is there any other characters you want because I am working on another page right now. - PrinceZarbon 03:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Merger

Yeah, you can go ahead and merge all those articles. Eventually somebody can probably sort their content into other articles (such as merging the content of each member of Dodoria's Elite into that article, for example), but for now chronicling them in a single article will suffice. I wouldn't mind merging these articles into more appropriate locations myself, but it's tedious work that I'm to distracted to take on myself right now. Storm Z Ball talk projects 03:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks mate. What I'll do is merge them all and fix their inaccurate names. After I have merged them all, can you delete the separate articles? - PrinceZarbon 03:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think the articles should be immediately deleted, for the sake of all the redlinks they would create. It would be better to first redirect them to each section of the unnamed character list that they fall under. Again, someone might come along to do the tedious work of changing each link to (for example) Tsuno to List of unnamed characters in Dragon Ball#Namek elder; this way there will no longer be any links to Tsuno, and deleting the redirect wouldn't cause any redlinks (except here of course, but this is a talkpage heh). Storm Z Ball talk projects 03:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Of course. That's what I meant mate. We're on the same page here. Thanks. - PrinceZarbon 03:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


Prince Zarbon, there's something I really to say something about the Ocean dub. When I watch the Funimation dub, it was a hundred times better than the Ocean dub in TV. Also, the remastered Dub is better than the Ocean dub as well. When I hear Vegito's voice in the Ocean dub, it was horrible. Vegito, what have they done to you?! For your information, a lot of people actually adored the English dubs. I love the English dub, and I still do. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't like any of the English dubs compared to the original Japanese only because I like the uncut material and the original Japanese music. I do prefer the new dub to the ocean only because it was finally in uncut. - PrinceZarbon 03:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then. Well I love Japanese and English, and I enjoyed them vastly. Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT, all three of them in my belief, are grand. I should be aware that while you definitely don't like English dubs, I love the English dubs, which is the opposite of what you said. This is not to offend you at all, Prince Zarbon. Dragon Ball isn't the only the anime I watched. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, what can you say about Marvel and DC? Even though I love Dragon Ball Z & GT more, I like watching both. Dekoshu talk contrib 04:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say I don't like the English dubs, I just said I prefer the Japanese because of the music in that version. And if you look at my user page, I have quite a few favorites from the Marvel Universe and DC Universe. Two-Face and Joker are my favorites from DC, in that order, respectively. And Carnage is my favorite Marvel character. - PrinceZarbon 04:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh man! I took it the wrong way AGAIN. Well, I have a lot of favorites in Marvel and DC as well, not just a few. I like Superman, but not as much as I like Goku. I also like heroes and villains of Marvel and DC. The thing is though, I am not retarded, nor I should be called one. When I say I love DBZ, I mean it. Dekoshu talk contrib 04:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I only like villains. I don't like any heroes. But you already knew that. - PrinceZarbon 04:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I heard it the first time, Prince Zarbon. If you go to my user page, you can see that I am more of a anime fan, and have lesser dislikes compared to cartoons. I love many heroes and villains, and some villains who I want to be heroes. Dekoshu talk contrib 04:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Sadly, I strongly dislike all saiyans except for Nappa, Raditz, and Paragus. You have decorated your page with the characters I'm not too fond of. Well, Vegeta I hate because he's a traitor and not only a good guy but also the killer of literally all my favorite characters. - PrinceZarbon 04:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Ohh. That's very sad to hear, Prince Zarbon. D: But that's what you want it to be, my friend. Because of what I hear from you, I can no longer speak to you, even though it's not my opinion. Even though I prefer to love more than to hate all and have no love, there are things I never want to hear or read that can disturb my mind, distract my mind, and I never enjoyed hearing them, no matter how honest the opinion was. What I'm saying, Prince Zarbon, is that I don't enjoy that unpleasant opinion at all, not even at 1%. Dekoshu talk contrib 04:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't forcing you to speak you me. I didn't intend on "poisoning" your mind either. That's a pretty negative thing of you to say. You know you can really be mean for no reason at all. - PrinceZarbon 04:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Prince Zarbon. I wasn't trying to be intentionally mean at all. It's just that I just don't agree confortably with that opinion you just said, all right. No hard feelings. I don't intend to be negative. But hey, at least you and the other users are making the website better than before. I will never set my foot on your talk page ever again, Prince Zarbon. Good bye, Prince Zarbon. Sorry for bothering you in anyway, even though it didn't. I'm not really mean at all. I just don't enjoy them, not even at 1%. I didn't say you were forcing me to talk to you, nor are you poisoning my mind. Dekoshu talk contrib 04:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC) Dekoshu talk contrib 04:45, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say anything offensive to you, just so you know. Bye now. - PrinceZarbon 04:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You know I'm not really mean. Anyway, bye. Have a great time editing articles. Just to let you know, you're a good person and have a great time in your life, Prince Zarbon. But really, I'm going to keep my promise to you that I won't interfere in your user talk page ever again. Good bye, and have a good night sleep every day as much as possible. Dekoshu talk contrib 05:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey, I just wanted to complement you on your recent edits. I always appreciate it when a user puts forth effort to write with encyclopedic style and polish. (I have to say you probably picked my favorite quote for Dr. Gero. :-P) Thanks for your great contributions! -- Nonoitall talk contr 08:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. I've been trying to contribute heavily to many wikis although Dragon Ball is my favorite as it's my favorite anime. Thanks again. - PrinceZarbon 14:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


I need to know which season come after another????? I have started with the first episode and I'm now on the 63 of DragonBall. But I have noticed that there is a DragonBall GT , Z ect.... So which one comes after another?? I know DragonBall is the first but when I'm done with that which is next. I thought when it came to the years it was made that DBZ was after DB ,but then there was DBGT, So I don't know what order there in, Please help.

First it is Dragon Ball (153 episodes), then it is Dragon Ball Z (291 episodes), and afterward is Dragon Ball GT (64 episodes). - PrinceZarbon 04:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Is this ALL of the DragonBall season there is? this one site is what told me the gt came before Z something about Goku being a teen?????? And I thought there was one where Goku was tern back in to a kid which one is that??

No that is wrong. However, in the episodes of Dragon Ball GT, Goku is turned into a child again because of a wish made by Emperor Pilaf. The events of GT still happen after Z. - PrinceZarbon 04:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok got yea Thanks man.

You're welcome. - PrinceZarbon 05:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

There is one more thing I need to know and that's the movies of DB, DBZ, and DBGT. What I need to know is what movies are there for DB, DBZ, DBGT and what time to watch them when I'm watching the seasons??? I already have the movies of DBZ (which I'm not at liberty to say how I got) BUT I don't know when to watch them.

The reason I have such big questions is that even though I'm 21 I remembered watching 2 or 3 episode of DBZ when I was 12 or some where around there. It was cool at the time but I was drown away because Digimon had just started and I was hooked; Until I was 15, that's when I stopped watching cartoons. I have just recently wonted that excitement that feeling you have when your little kid watching cartoons, but things are different know not just the age but now I have complete control of a thing celled ""THE INTERNET"". Now you know my life story about me and the show DB. WARIO88 05:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


  • 1. Curse of Blood Rubies [before Dragon Ball first episode]
  • 2. Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle [before Red Ribbon Army Saga]
  • 3. Mystical Adventure - [after Red Ribbon Army saga]


  • 1. Dead Zone - Garlic Junior [before arrival of Raditz/Saiyan Saga]
  • 2. World's Strongest - Dr. Wheelo [after Raditz but before Nappa and Vegeta/Saiyan Saga]
  • 3. Tree of Might - Turles [After Nappa and Vegeta/Saiyan Saga]
  • 4. Lord Slug [After Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui, and Ginyu Force battles/Namek Saga]
  • 5. Cooler's Revenge [After Frieza saga]
  • 6. Return of Cooler - Meta Cooler [After cyborg Frieza and King Cold/Trunks saga]
  • 7. Super Android 13 [After Trunks saga and Androids saga/Dr. Gero and Android 19]
  • 8. Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan [After Perfect Cell Saga]
  • 9. Bojack Unbound [After Cell Games]
  • 10. Broly: The Second Coming [After World Tournament Saga]
  • 11. Bio-Broly [After World Tournament Saga]
  • 12. Fusion Reborn - Janemba [After Fusion Saga]
  • 13. Wrath of the Dragon - Hirudegarn [After Kid Buu Saga]

DBGT movies:

  • Hero's legacy [after the final GT episode]

hope that helps. - PrinceZarbon 05:55, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Now I need to know when too watch each movie during a season???

Which movie is the one where Goku is a kid and he was fighting a robot and the Frankenstein robot was helping him and died in the process???? I watch a little bit of it but stopped it because it was too far from where I was and I can’t remember where I watch it or what it was celled.WARIO88 06:24, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know that but you pretty much have the order...I can classify further when they take place if you'd like...- PrinceZarbon 06:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Which part don't you know?? watching each movie during a season or knowing which movie is the one where the Frankenstein robot was helping Goku and died????? WARIO88 06:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

look at the list I drew for you right above. To the right of each title you will see when each movie takes place [in between which saga]. - PrinceZarbon 06:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I see them and got them saved. ""Awesome thanks man"" I think that's all I'll need, now I'm ready to watch them all.

Okay, you're welcome. Feel free to ask me anything else anytime. - PrinceZarbon 07:09, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I just saw another movie of DB its "The Path of Power" where does it come in in the seasons?????

Path to Power comes after Mystical Adventure and before Piccolo saga. It happens after Red ribbon army saga as well. - PrinceZarbon 15:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm back!!!! and I’m confused I have watch all of the dragonball episodes and now I’m on DBZ; but what I don’t get is that when did Goku get a son???? Does the son just appear out of thin air, I mean where is an episode or a move about him actually having a son?? WARIO88 06:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I didn't create the dragonball series so I wouldn't know the exact process of how he has a son other than the obvious fact that he gets mrried to Chi-Chi and they have a son. This happens in between the Dragonball series ending and the DBZ series beginning. I'd assume they don't have to illustrate the process of a son being born; and they don't show the second son, Goten, being born either when he appears. - PrinceZarbon 17:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Wall I didn't mean to illustrate the process of a son being born, if that was so I don't think this would be considered a kids show even if they put it where young Goku would pull of his clothes and showing a little too much, lol. What I mean is Goku and Chi-Chi raising Gohan from a baby, instead of just putting him in there at 2 or 3 years old. "You know what I mean,is there a lost episode or somthing" WARIO88 06:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Much of that material is illustrated in flashbacks in later episodes. Such as what you mentioned of Gohan as being very little is witnessed way later in the Cell Games saga in an episode entitled "Memories of Gohan". Check out that episode if you want to see a flashback of Gohan in his younger days with Chi-chi and goku (it's also where they first witness Gohan's superior powers for the first time chronologically (although the episode takes place way later in the series. - PrinceZarbon 14:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank's man that's what I need to know. Talk to yea later maybe. 02:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Adminship

First of all, it's great that you want to help out even more. At the moment, we have four fairly regular admins (Storm, Dantman, Eulalia459678 and myself) on the wiki, which has been pretty sufficient for a community this size. (It's definitely no where near the struggle to maintain things around here as it was a few months ago.) So, for the time being at least, I don't really see a need for a new sysop. That's not to say I don't think you'd be suitable though; in the time you've been here, I've noted that you're very civil, knowledgeable and willing to communicate — all desirable qualities in an admin.

The community is growing, and if it keeps up, I have no doubt that we'll need to take on another admin sooner or later. In the meantime, make sure and let the other admins and/or myself know if there's anything that you need us to take care of. I'd also let them know of your interest in the position if you haven't already. They might be feeling the need for another sysop more than I am. Thanks! -- Nonoitall talk contr 08:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

That is understandable and commendable. It is rather true that four administrators perform well, though the need for one more might arise after a very many members have joined. I shall continue to contribute as always and when and if the right time comes, I will be more than willing to join your side. I haven't told the other administrators so I'd of course appreciate your alerting them and your vote of confidence. Thanks again. - PrinceZarbon 15:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I saw your appeal for administratorship, and where I stand with the situation is basically the same as Nonoitall. While there are countless users on Dragon Ball Wiki whose edits are appreciated, I think there are a core group of users who specialize in certain ways of polishing and advancing the wiki. Nonoitall often makes necessary tweaks and touch ups to new information, I do article rewrites (I did them more often before I became distracted in real-life, but I know I'll do some more in the future), Eulalia459678 welcomes new visitors, and you take the time to rectify any erroneous information. Because you have a special field that it would be easier to accomplish with access to administrative tools, I would totally support working with you as a fellow administrator, but again, I think that the 'contributions-to-administrators' ratio is pretty adequate. But I think that if the wiki continues to expand and you're still around, you could definitely be Dragon Ball Wiki's fifth admin. Storm Z Ball talk projects 18:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again for your vote of confidence. I would not let either of you down when that time comes. Of course, I would also be willing to continue with the same enthusiasm as always. - PrinceZarbon 19:14, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Piano's Death??

Piano is crushed to death by his father in the Japanese dub, so wouldn't that be his official cause of death? This whole thing about him instead getting crushed underground is only alluded to in the FUNimation dub beause they must have found the concept of King Piccolo killing his own child too disturbing for American TV. I didn't remove it because there could be something out there that varifies the statement. SuperTron500 23:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello. Piano was struck by King Piccolo by accident. However, he did not die like that. His body sinks into the ground later [as witnessed in the anime] both in Japanese and English versions. - PrinceZarbon 06:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Alright, i'll take your word for it, but he doesn't make any sounds after being crushed in the Japanese version, which seemed to indicate death. SuperTron500 00:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Here's the clip:

let the clip load and skip to 15:32 seconds into the clip to see the part where he dies by sinking into the rubble. - PrinceZarbon 03:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Heres the original clip:

let the clip load and skip to 2:41. SuperTron500 05:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Like I said, that happens BEFORE he sinks into the ground. So it can be mentioned that he is hit by King Piccolo by accident but he still dies by sinking into the rubble. - PrinceZarbon 17:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Do you have any hard evidence?? Where is it? I'm starting to think perhaps you're getting a bit smug when theres no reason to. And did you even watch my clip or were you just expecting me to watch yours and clam up? Who else dies in the series from sinking into the rubble?? Lets just say everyone does then we'll all be happy speculating. --SuperTron500 13:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry if for some reason you feel I got smug; there was no harsh intention there. I already pointed out to you that the scene where Piano gets hit happens before the scene where he sinks into the rubble. And no, I'm pretty sure he's the only character who dies from sinking into the ground/rubble, there are no others who die that way. Drum's eyes are popped out with one quick strike by Goku, Tambourine is blown to death in midair, and Cymbal is sliced in half by Yajirobe. - PrinceZarbon 19:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
And i'm sorry for jumping to conclusions. Its just i've been under the impression for three years Piano dies when King Piccolo falls on him but when i finally got a chance to see the english version last year he makes additional sounds from the time King Piccolo falls on him to the point he sinks. But still, thats the FUNimation dub, and they aren't always true to official elements. King Piccolo also claims he fought all over the universe in the FUNimation dub despite too many errors to supoport it. So all i'm asking of you is; Is there something that officially states this?

I'm not trying to contest the change, i'm just more or less trying to put my own mind to ease... SuperTron500 08:01, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

The only surefire way to confirm his death is to check out the chapter of the manga; however oftentimes, the anime elongates the character's death as opposed to the manga (for example Sergeant Purple Murasaki). The fact remains that in the case of Piano, even if you don't consider him making noises (his eyes are wide open and his mouth is wide open and he is shaking when he falls into the rubble in both the Japanese and English versions, so it's safe to assume that he was not killed (but hurt) by just getting hit by Piccolo. - PrinceZarbon 14:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Well then.. Howscome you haven't edited this info about Piano on the Other World and Hell pages? Which are still listing his death as a result of his father's fall, and readers will be confused when they see two conflicting claims of death. I also didn't notice his body moving on its own after King Piccolo falls on him, it just looked pretty stiff to me as he sinks, but thanks for showing me otherwise. SuperTron500 03:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out those pages. I will fix them when I get a chance. Thanks again. - PrinceZarbon 02:04, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Anytime. SuperTron500 03:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


Due to your dedicated efforts toward the wiki, you've been made an admin. If you haven't already, it's suggested that you set an e-mail address in your user preferences in the event that other users need to contact you off of your talk page. This also will allow you to recover your password via e-mail, should you forget it.

Suggested reading:

It's my hope that this will assist you in making even more helpful contributions to the wiki in the future. Let me know if I can help with anything! -- Nonoitall talk contr 21:35, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again, I will continue to work hard in the future and try my best to fulfill any duties and help you and the other admins in any manner. - PrinceZarbon 17:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Quote of the Day

Sounds like a good idea to me! Dragon Ball Wiki:Featured quotes seems like a logical place to archive the quotes (as featured articles are archived on Dragon Ball Wiki:Featured articles). Thanks. -- Nonoitall talk contr 07:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, thanks. That would be the best place to keep track of them, the same way as the featured articles. - PrinceZarbon 14:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I've added the first quote and I will continue to alter it daily, as I had originally planned. The first qotd will be for April 24. - PrinceZarbon 23:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


Um okay I suppose that it alright, I have had the idea for the quote for quite along time myself. I'd like to contribute as well, perhaps we can switch off month by month? I mean, I did create the actual section.
 talk contr 
00:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
No, I am sorry. I originally brought up the idea for it and it was the reason for which I initially wanted administrative rights. However, if you do have suggestions for QOTD, you can always make the suggestion in the talk page for the QOTD that I have made and I will consider using your suggestions in the future. But as of now, I have already planned out the quotes daily for the upcoming year. And I intend to go through the quotations in the order I had planned. Thanks for understanding. Here's the page for future suggestions: Dragon Ball Wiki talk:Featured quotes - PrinceZarbon 00:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I guess it really doesn't matter, I don't find it entirely fair as I had no idea of your suggestions for the featured quote, and I did go and actually create it, but guess that will be your job. Talk to you later bud.
 talk contr 
00:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Then it must have been a very interesting coincidence that you tried to add one on the very first day which I had planned out the initial quotations. I believe you can still be helpful if you want and you can tell other members to add their suggestions in the suggestion area as well. I'd appreciate any feedback as I have mapped out the quotations for the upcoming year and I look forward to more for 2010. Thanks again mate. - PrinceZarbon 00:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I guess it is haha, I was actually looking around on the Halo wikia and noticed their quote section, thought we could use one too, something I'd thought of before. But anyway I'll just go ahead and let you handle the quotes, if you need any help feel free to ask. Also, what do you think about adding more features like polls, games, and something like Dragon Ball Wikian of the month, which could be voted monthly? Well let me know, I have it posted on the main pages talk as well if you want to respond more openly. Thanks
 talk contr 
00:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I assume Wikian of the month is on the lines of something in similarity to the Featured Users. Normally, I'm not sure if that would accomplish much. However, I do agree that polls would be a great idea. And although I wouldn't want to be in charge of changing polls frequently as I will have my hands full with recent changes and the qotd, I do agree that a poll, maybe weekly or monthly, would be a great idea. I wouldn't mind having a poll about the new DB movie as I myself could express just how angry I was about the flick overall (as were any diehard DBZ fans). As for games, I'm not certain... as that would seem a bit complicated, though I would encourage any and all types of media input. - PrinceZarbon 00:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


Yeah I actually just changed my signature as you were typing that haha, but how about this one? #21A79A

Here is the link to the Hex color code generator I use, if you want to monkey around some more

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00:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Ay mate. I found some colors for the background, but I'm still not sure how to change the colors for the letters. I want to have them in black. Also, the colors haven't applied. Do I have to do something else so the background applies? Here's the link: sig - PrinceZarbon 01:03, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Or do I have to sign like this: Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 - PrinceZarbon 01:06, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

What you need to do is go to user preferences and CHECK the box that says custom signature. From their just copy and paste User:PrinceZarbon/sig into the selection, just make sure it is in this form Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3.

It then will apply. You may want to create a second signature page under User:PrinceZarbon/sig2. When you do this just make it's contents Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3, and just go into your preferences again and paste it in. You can then freely edit your signature at any time.

I myself am not to sure about doing the letters, User:Nonoitall gave me a really great explanation on how the whole signature process works a few weeks ago, If you want to read it, it is on my talk page. I could probably try and figure it out but I haven't had much occasion to test around with it, something I'll probably figure out when I feel more like it. Hope that helps
 talk contr 
01:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Alright, much thanks. I hope to figure it out completely as I'll need to maneuver it in the future. - PrinceZarbon talk contrib 01:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Not a problem, let me know if you have any other questions that I could answer.
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01:35, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
The only weird part is the "talk" link attached to the sig. It's showing up in the template but doesn't seem to show up here. It doesn't apply even after it's changed initially in the user preferences and the template. - PrinceZarbon talk contrib 01:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I believe that is because we are already in your "talk" page, maybe go and leave a quick test message and signature in my talk page and we'll see if it works. I'm pretty sure that is why, maybe I'm wrong? Guess we'll find out.
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01:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Yep it works, it was only because we were on your talk page.
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01:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you were right. I should've known that any link won't show up on its own page, otherwise it would be a mere redirect. Much thanks. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Not a problem. As for your response to my suggestion on adding new features. Yeah I understand completely what you mean, managing those might be kind of tricky. I believe polls might be the easiest to manage. I just figured having a featured user voted by other users might be a great way to just kind of give those who work hard the recognition they deserve, but may be a bit complicated. Thanks for your opinions though, and I agree about DBE, it was just horrible!
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01:55, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Want to be a 'bottom feeder fish'? :-P

Hey, I noticed you had said you wanted to help me and the other admins out, and as such I have a bit of a favor to ask. (Feel free to say no if it's an imposition.) As you may or may not know, I'm sort of a self-appointed fixer-upper on the wiki. But, with the spike in activity recently I've gotten a few days behind, and have been having a difficult time keeping the gap from growing further. (Reviewing 24 hours worth of edits each day takes a lot more time and energy now than it did when the wiki was less active.)

The increased activity is excellent, as it means the community is growing, but the maintenance is wearing me out to the point that I think I need to take a little break. So, the favor I'm asking is if you and SSJGoku93 would be willing to watch over things around here for a couple of weeks, just so I can take a little time off and catch up as well. (I've left a message with him about this as well.) I realize it's a pretty time-consuming task, which is why I'm not asking one of you to tackle it alone. (You'd also be free to delegate parts of the task to other trustworthy users, if you so please.) I trust in both of your editing abilities and am confident that you'd both do an excellent job.

Anyway, you guys can talk it over, and if you decide it's something you can fit in, let me know and I'll let you know when I'll leave off. If it's not something you can manage, that's okay too. Thanks for listening! -- Nonoitall talk contr 08:12, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I will of course be checking in frequently and I operate well alongside SSJGoku93. I will try to frequently check the articles in order to maintain order (as there's always increased vandalism) and any help from other trustworthy members such as SSJGoku93 would be great. Thanks for passing me the message. I will try my best to check into the articles at least a few times a day. We all have our hands full mate, and it's a time consuming process, but with all our effort, I'm sure we can handle steady maintenance. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

RE: Your idea

Sounds like a good plan to me. What about things like movies, episodes, and objects etc. Do you think we should we both just try to handle those? Any whom yeah I'll definitely take heroes and support heroes and you'll take the villains and support villains, sounds like a fantastic plan. Talk to you soon bud.
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01:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm a villain lover. Yeah, I knew that would be a good concise way to maneuver the articles. I guess we could both keep track of the movies, episodes, etc. in the meantime. I've found the main character articles are the ones that are constantly being altered though, so it's great that you can keep track of the heroes so it all works out. Thanks again mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I will definitely handle the heroes, as your right, they are vandalized a lot more than smaller articles, but it is best to keep an eye on them too. I'm pretty certain we can handle it. I'd say currently you, myself, and Nonoitall are the only active admins at this time, some of the others are either taking a break or just kind of left, so I'd suppose it would just be you and I handling the vandalism etc for the next few weeks. Of course, there are other users on here who are just as dedicated as you and I, so I'm sure they'd be happy to help where they can and alert us if we are needed to handle larger matters.
 talk contr 
02:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I've found the sudden disappearance of Vixen Windstorm alarming as for the most part, I'd also found working with Vixen comforting. Dantman also hasn't been showing up for quite a while...the three of us (you, myself, and Nonoitall) seem to be the most active at the time. I assume we can balance things out, but I was thinking of a way to let other members know we're administrators merely so they can ask us for help (as I've found quite a few members have asked me questions at random for which I was happy to help). We should maybe add a list of all the administrators on the wikia so that they can easily access all our user pages and talk rather than having to maneuver through the featured users and/or community portal. Something more accessible to newcomers is what I had in mind. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah it's odd that Vixen Windstorm just kind of left and hasn't been back for a few months, same for Dantman. They are both very good guys to work with so hopefully they'll return soon. Anyways, yeah I definitely agree about making a list of the wikia's administrators, seems like a much easier solution. Got any ideas of where to put it? I'd imagine putting a link to it on the main page might be a good idea, so that users can simply click the link and select an admin's talk page to leave any questions, concerns, etc. What do you think?
 talk contr 
02:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I would recommend it to be somewhere on the main page...maybe above the "Other areas of Dragon Ball Wiki" section. It could have another highlight. Some of the sections already use blue, purple, green, orange background etc. as title highlights. We could probably give it red background and title the section "Administrators" or something else on those lines...any thoughts? I hope we can do it soon so as for easy access to new members. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:44, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I suppose putting it their would work, we just need to create a template with some info and links to administrators user and talk pages. Once we do that we can test it a little bit, then we should be able to create a highlight and a section. I was also thinking about putting it under the Featured Quote area but we may need to add another main topic toward the wikia there someday, however, do you think it could work there?
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02:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Anywhere so that it's in a place that's easy to reach for members; of prominence and accessibility for easy linking. I think it would be too low if it was under the Featured Quote area. It's more eye-catching when it's in the top portion of the page. But I'll let you handle that as you like making the templates 'n all. But do you think the color red would be a good highlight? (it sort of shouts alert). - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I see what your saying, I was just worried about the advertisement that usually appears above that section, but maybe it will be pushed up if that is added. Red sounds like a good color to me, definitely an eye catcher. As far as the template go's, I can start working on it tonight, I just need to figure on how it is going to be mapped out etc. Any ideas on what it's setup would look like, any input would be well appreciated.
 talk contr 
03:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I assume it should look the same way as the "Other areas of Dragonball Wiki" section in terms of mapping cept it should state the administrator names distinguished by admin/bureaucrat and contact info, talk pages, etc. We can make it simple and easy to access, the same way as the other template sections. The introductory sentence right after the "Administrators" highlight should be something on the lines of "For questions or comments, please contact one of the Dragon Ball Wiki Administrators. A complete list of the Dragonball Wiki administrators is as follows:" which afterward a bullet list of our usernames will be under it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
That was pretty much the same thing I had in mind, I will hope to start on it tomorrow, I suppose the template can be made tonight but I'm not sure how to make it appear above the "Other areas" section, but I'm sure we can figure it out.
 talk contr 
03:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
No rush mate. We want it to look nice so that when we put it up, it adds to the main page and also is more accessible to newcomers and members alike. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
True, I'll start on the template either tomorrow night or Sunday night, when I have a bit more time.
 talk contr 
03:25, 25 April 2009 (UTC) How are you today Zarbon? I began construction on the new template, here is the link to it Dragon Ball Wiki administrators. You can tweak it around if you'd like to, I'm sure more could be added.
 talk contr 
20:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. Lets put it up on the main page. I don't think it needs many tweaks, it pretty much encompasses the idea I had for easy access. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
The Administrators part on the main page looks good, I'm only wondering if we should include Vixen, because he currently doesn't seem to be active?
 talk contr 
04:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I thought about that but then I went to see Vixen's recent login and it showed up for yesterday. Both Vixen and Dantman had logged in and maybe they will continue to edit. I'd give Vixen another week before removing the name from the active administrators on the main page. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:01, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Silver Sinspawn and other random things.

Hey how's it going Zarbon? I just wanted to point out that I have seen some of the conversations you had with SilverSinspawn and thought I'd let you know that I left him a message on his talk page regarding his attitude and edits etc. Hopefully he will stop with the insults etc., but if not we may have to ban him for a bit. Any whom, I just wanted to also make sure your edits are going alright and if you needed any of my help for anything, so far everything's looking great, Nonoitall should be pleased to see we handled things well, being the new admins that we are. For some reason we've had a bit of an increase in vandalism in the last few days, but we seemed to have handled that nicely. Well, just checking in, talk to you soon bud.
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22:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey mate. Thanks for checking in. I appreciate your help as always. I don't know why some members are actively fierce and confrontational without reason, but I agree that sometimes the best measure is to give them bans, only when necessary. I have warned that specific member twice about the foul language. On another note, I've found an increased amount of juvenile behavior coming from many random ip's, hence their detraction and multiple vandalism of some articles. I've proceeded to ban numerous random ip's which have been triggering much of the vandalism. I've had experience with vandals on numerous other wikis and they all have the same tendencies: blanking pages, adding gibberish, adding foul language, and/or writing up false and inaccurate tidbits. I'm glad that we both have a keen eye at spotting these forms of vandalism and spam and I hope that we can continue to work together; I believe we can maintain a great community and at the same time, a highly accurate resource together. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Quote of the day

i got a question.can Quote of the day be when Vegeta says to Android 19 "Does a machine like yourself ever experience fear?", episode upgrade to super saiyan.I mean cant be today but can it be like when you have a chance?

Hello. If you have any suggestions, such as the one above, you can post them here: Featured Quote suggestions and I will take them into consideration for future quotations. Although they may not be used soon, as I have mapped out many of the upcoming quotations, I can guarantee that they will be used (I will make sure to use that Vegeta after another one by him as there has already been a suggestion for another Vegeta quote. However, I can't promise that it will be anytime this month. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't Bite the Newcomers

Its a Rule.And You Keep Deleting all My Edits.THEY ARE CALLED THE TURLES CRUSHER CORPS.not TURLES' HENCHMEN. Be Nice,i Know Because you are older,you think you know more,but BE NICE --Silver Sinspawn 05:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't bite newcomers. I will revert any gibberish and nonsense however. There are a few things you specifically need to do correctly. First, you need to stop capitalizing on the articles unnecessarily as you have done here. You incessantly capitalize in the middle of sentences as if spamming the articles. Second, if you can provide any evidence to where you see the words "Crusher Corps" included in the movie, then I will allow it. We can only allow official titles. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

God i Hate You,But, They we're Called the Crusher Corps.ask ANYBODY.and Razun calls them the Crusher Corps Once. --Silver Sinspawn 19:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't take well to demeaning remarks. Please try to keep the hatred to a minimum and carry in a dignified manner. Also, if for some reason you are offended by the spelling fixes and grammatical changes, then try your best to transgress further in becoming a better writer. You can start by not capitalizing in the middle of sentences unnecessarily. You would find that I am actually very respectful and I will never say anything like what you just said [example: "God i Hate You"]. Also, I will look at the new released version to see if Rezun says that in order to confirm it (It is not so in the original version but Funimation has changed much of the titles and phrases) - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:25, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I want to talk to you somewhere else.So we can get this sorted out.I don't mind the spelling and grammar changes, but i would prefer you not speak to me about it so often. Rezun said it when the tree was being planted, and they were talking about what they would do with the fruit.BUT, just a question: How old do you think i am?

Honestly, I don't know what your age is (nor do I care) and I don't really think it matters how old you are; that is completely irrelevant. Age doesn't make a difference when it comes to proper etiquette and better grammar. And I don't see any use of talking elsewhere. The talk pages are a fine resort for any kind of matter. I don't approve of foul language anywhere, so that really makes no difference. Also, I never spoke to you about your grammar often. I only brought it up once for which you became very fierce as a response. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
About Rezun saying it, I still don't see him mention that anywhere. I watched the new Funimation version all over again with all the scenes with Rezun and Rakasei as well as all of Turles' men. I still don't see them mention "Crusher Corps" ONCE in the movie. The part where the tree is planted, the dialogue between Rezun and Rakasei is simple enough:

Daizu: Once he eats the fruit, his power will be off the charts.
Rezun: Not that Turles needs more strength to battle Kakarot. The poor weakling couldn't even conquer Earth.
Rakasei: All of our powers will grow. We'll outshadow every fighter in the known universe.

And they don't talk again until their confrontation with the Z Fighters. If you still feel you need to contest against this, please refer to the exact runtime in the flick for which you feel the words "Crusher Corps" are being used. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:15, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Sockpuppet Ban

Yes I definitely understand, there should be 0 tolerance for spamming etc. I'll continue to keep an eye out, as I always revert any spam I see and take action on the user if necessary of course. As regards to users just being rude, immature, "brats" if you will, they deserve nothing less than a nice ban if their actions continue. Of course it is always good to give a few warnings before taking any actions (ban etc.), but if it permits, it should definitely be done.
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22:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad we agree about how to handle similar situations for the most part. I've had lots of experience dealing with these immature users, and I'm glad we agree about this. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Inexplicable Signature (Captain Ginyu)

As much as I like Captain Ginyu, I can't figure out how my signature ended up at the top of the page when I undid that last bit of vandalism. O_o; In any case, thanks for removing that. ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 04:42, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

No probs mate. Thanks for quickly removing the vandalism. This has been a very busy week in terms of vandalism, I've already dealt with over twenty anonymous ip's relentlessly vandalising numerous pages. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

"Crusher Turles Corps"

Google says they're called the "Crusher Turles Corps". Now, I don't recall hearing this in the uncut Ocean dub, but that doesn't mean they aren't called that. A couple hits are describing the units in the movie while a couple other hits are from fan sites. There's even a couple hits that come back HERE.'s up for debate until someone gets whatever copy of the movie where they label themselves and shows us otherwise, I guess.

Unless they are officially referred to as the Crusher Corps onscreen in either version, then it is not official. Fan-made names are not needed. That's why I've gone through the deletion of many confirmed fake fan names, such as Tsuno, Rittain, etc. Fan names are not official Funimation titles. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I added a new main page feature "Did you know?"

Hey how is it going Zarbon? Doing well I hope? Anyways just wanted to see if you noticed the new "Did you know" section I created for the main page (on the bottom right). I put 5 random facts and will probably change them up starting every Monday next week. I should probably create an archive too don't you think?
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00:27, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah mate. I saw the section and it looks great. The only thing is that there's lots of facts in the section and if you are going to update it and keep track of it, maybe it would be wise to limit it to one fact per week rather than 4 or 5 since you don't want to run out of facts. But yes, if you are going to do that and keep track of the section, you should definitely make a page for previous facts in order for past archive access. I assume Featured facts would be your link as it's the same title format as the featured articles and quotes, etc. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


thanks for thanking me, just felt like helping out

Regarding My Ban

I only received two warnings, and i appologized to you before you banned me........also,what does it mean by "Purposeful Ignorance"? Im not ignorant......I'm MUCH smarter than most people were at this age......... this being said,im sorry,and i hope we can get along.....--Silver Sinspawn 21:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

You ignored my first three warnings. Please do me a tremendous favor from now on. Try your best not to attack any members. You should also try your best to get along with members, including administrators, even when you may not agree with them. It shouldn't bother you that members ask administrators for help. That's what administrators are for. In fact, I will try my best to assist anyone who needs aid. If you want to be treated with respect, you must show respect. I am being formal and discreet because I want you to be a respectful member in the future. You can try by not continuing to instigate a conversation where there isn't anything else to be said. Prove that you have learned from this ban by not responding. I have faith that you will be a good editor. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay.can you do me a favor? Join My Site? i would appreciate it --Silver Sinspawn 02:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I don't have enough time to join sites. I barely have enough time to regulate within this wikia and edit in other wikias and wiki projects. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


I have a question. Okay do u know the people who make the Budokai Tenkaichi and Burst limit games. I really think I can help them out with some Ideas but they havent replied to my letter I sent them yet. In all honesty Tenkaichi 3 wasnt that great. Burst Limit was okay. With the ps3 power most of my ideas would be great it would probaly get a 9+ in reviews, and most importanly true to the fans. [dragonballgeek] 10:29, 10 March 2009

I don't have contact with the BT team. However, I myself emailed them on countless occasion. It was worth it however as the BT games included all my suggestions except for Spice. I wish I could help. Sorry. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


Yeah when I logged on earlier I noticed that those links were up top, so I just undid them. But, if these users continue, we should probably leave them both explanations and warnings on their talk pages etc. If it continues, I'm sure action must be taken.

I have seen all the images you've added and they are looking excellent, great work, on that and all other things you've been up to! I've recently been trying to add articles on characters that we currently do not have, even the most minor characters deserve a page haha. Plus other random additions etc. where they are needed of course.

As far as The Article of the Month goes, I actually was trying to decide between Frieza and Vegeta, seeing as how we just had a technique featured, so it would be best to use a character or something else. I figured we'd maybe go along the lines of something like "hero, villain, location, technique, cont.-", but if you've got any ideas, I'm all ears. I planned on updating the article on the 16th, as it will be a month since Super Saiyan was used. But yeah, let me know what you think.

And we have been doing an excellent job :^) ! Talk to you later.
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22:09, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Heya mate. Yeah, I was thinking of character, etc. for article of the month. But then I thought of locations too...I was thinking the planet of the Kais, if proper images and more attribution were added, would make a nice article of the month too. On terms of characters for article of the month, I think we should stick to lesser known characters, so that people would become accustomed to them and know more about them, such as Grand Kai, Olibu, etc. I'm all ears on other suggestions.
In terms of some pages that need heavy work, Majin Buu's page is currently horrid, merely because it has information on all forms which currently have their own separate pages as well. If all those forms have their separate pages, for example, Evil Buu has his own page and that same information and image, etc. are on the Majin Buu page, it makes the separate pages useless. What should be done is a heavy cut from the Majin Buu page and links to the other forms so that specific page strays away from so much clutter. That page seems to be one of the most cluttered out of all the villain pages. I checked out the hero pages and the Goku page may need some cleanup in the future also (where there's too much in-depth stuff in the movies he's in, should all be on separate pages) but the Buu page is the most problematic one out of all the villains. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Well the Majin Buu Page is the way it is because many users had wanted there to be one page for the whole character instead of a bunch of seperate pages (Like with Cell). So, thats what I did, the only problem is I of course dont have the power to delete the other pages so that still needs to be done by an administrator. Thunderbender18

Yes but the other pages aren't a bad resource as separate pages. The Majin Buu page however, with all his forms, is a nightmare. It's much better to have his other forms as separate pages as they are initially different characters, Example: Evil Buu. Evil Buu battles Majin Buu (Good Buu) and swallows him up. They are entirely different entities although they spawn from each other's anger outlets. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:34, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeh I kind of agree, the only reason I made them one page is because that day I had noticed Fat Buu didnt have his own page and spent quite a bit of time designing it only to have it promptly deleted after I was finished, because apparently many people wanted there to be only one page for Buu and no one had found the time to do it, so I just took it upon myself to do it.I personally liked it the way it was before with each form having their own page and therefore more information. Thunderbender18 22:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Essentially, that is the goal. To make each character the best resource on its own. Evil Buu and Majin Buu are separate characters. It's not like they are transformations the same way Frieza and Cell are. They are different personas, different agendas, and different onscreen characteristics entirely. I personally dislike Fat Buu but I like Evil Buu. And others feel otherwise; vice versa. They aren't the same character so therefore, best course of action would be to separate them. Would you like to give them separate pages, or should I handle that, it is a bit of a grueling process considering all the different moves each character has attributed to each of its forms. Kid Buu has a slew of moves attributed to himself and Majin Buu has his own maneuvers, etc. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Well since I'm the one who put them all on one page I guess I should be the one to seperate, It really shouldnt be that hard since all the information on the page is already seprated between the four forms. I'll try to start later today and I should be finished tommarrow. Thunderbender18 23:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks mate. I'm glad to see you take initiative. I trust you to handle it well. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
The whole Buu thing sounds like a great idea, creating separate articles for forms seems like the most logical thing to do. As far as the Article of the Month goes, I'm liking the idea of using minor characters, didn't think of that before.
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22:10, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay I reverted the Majin Buu page to the way it was right before I merged all the articles into one page and am now in the proccess of re adding changes that were made since then (whitch will take a while). After that I'll start remaking the pages for the individual forms Thunderbender18 21:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Frieza Soldier

Dude, your cosplays scare the Hell out of me.

Anyway! Thanks again for correcting my mistakes. I do want to ask, though... Where did the inproper name of "Zaso" COME from? Was it a fan-made name like "Ultra Super Saiyan" or something? The two sources I saw said it came from Dragon Ball Z: Sparking! METEOR, which seems logical enough considering I have NO clue what Frieza Soldier's bio says other than "FRIEZA SOLDIER" up at the top... ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 07:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

There is no Zeso. He never has a name in the series. There are two soldiers who are modeled similarly like the Frieza Soldier in the series. One is Zarbon's scout, who is executed by Krillin. Another is among the slew of men who attacks Bardock in outer space. Neither of them is named. They are simply soldiers and scouts. They are unnamed characters and fan-made names will not do. These names were removed for a reason, so that they wouldn't be added again, as this is an encyclopedic resource. I went through lots of trouble prior having all the fan made names removed. Among them: Rittain, Tsuno, Pomegren, Orin, Jaggerai, Onion, etc. These are extremely annoying to constantly remove.
On another note, by scaring you, you mean you like my cos right? I've had much positive feedback in terms of character accuracy on other sites, i.e. deviantart, as all my favorite characters are the villains and especially henchmen (they have extremely detailed design and hue.) - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
So uh...does that mean "Coconut" or "Tanger" are fan-made names as well? (The former being the orange thing with a fish-like face (which is also Frieza Soldier's Color 2 outfit in the Budokai Tenkaichi series) and the latter being someone else of the same race.)
And I'm always taken aback a little when I see such detail put into cosplays. A lot of time and effort must have gone into those costumes... ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 20:06, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes mate, Tanger and Coconut are also inaccurate fan-made names, which I had to scour to get rid off. We can only allow accurate, encyclopedic and sourced material here. Anything that borders on fancruft and/or fan-made trivia, and/or website created material is highly inaccurate. Anything that comes directly from bird studio/toei and/or Akira is official. I'm glad you brought this up so I could clear it up. I had a complete list of all the inaccurate names which were deleted as normal housecleaning earlier. Can't locate it right now, but I'm sure I could let you know if there are any other inaccuracies if you bring 'em up here.
About the cos, yes, it took a very long time to construct the actual costumes and perfect the material, as well as the hair. Salza's wig, for example, was a tidal wave, a very rare style which I had to pay hundreds to have produced correctly and accurately, time and patience isn't even half of it. The costumes are also custom. And the scouters, have to be accurate as well. [Alien species are always my favorites] But I'm glad you noticed mate. Others I planned on doing are Jeice, Angira, Kogu, General Blue, Spice, and Caroni. Pretty much all the handsome elites in the series, as they make up a huge percentage of my favorite characters (and my actual facial structure matches theirs as opposed to others (which is good as they are my favorites). - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Majin Buu article

I already messaged you about an hour ago that I was in the middle of it, please read the message above for more details. Thunderbender18 22:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright mate. I meant don't be swayed by what the likes of Vegerot will say, such as the talk page for Buu. Doc Lithius' statement should be enough to comprehend the situation. I'm surprised that specific page was allowed to get so problematic. Some people prefer clutter and gibberish to coordination and easy resource and accessibility. But that doesn't mean we have to allow it. I just wanted to say how appreciative I am of your effort and anyone else who is helping to decrease the clutter. I very much appreciate your help. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeh my comment to Vegerot was meant to be sarcasm, he was one of the first people who complained when I merged the page in the first place.

Any way I've now reverted the page to the way it was before I merged it and re added the additions since then. The character history is now one block instead of divided between the diffrerent forms and the biographies of the diffrent forms are shortened. Also I took out all Techniques and Trivia that werent under the all forms section. If the page is still to cluttered then some one else is free to revise it further. I ll now start making the pages for the different forms. Thunderbender18 23:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

The Super Buu article is pretty much ready to go on the site but I cannot add it due to the fact the name redirects to the Majin Buu Page. Thunderbender18 23:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I will fix the redirects. First compose all the separate articles and let me know when you're done. I will automatically fix the redirects in the next hour so they go to their appropriate pages. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Alright, the articles shouldn't redirect anymore. Check them out. Add the articles for Evil Buu, Super Buu, and Kid Buu into their pages accordingly. Most of the Majin Buu article has all the information on separate moves, etc. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

A few template deletions

Hiya! (I'm back — kinda. :-)) I was just catching up on reviewing some edits and noticed there were a few templates you had deleted such as Namek Saga/Edited Episodes. The summary was that the contents were already present on the saga articles, but I wasn't sure if you were aware that the deletion of the templates removed the content from the articles they were transcluded into (such as those very saga articles, as well as the somewhat deprecated Episode Guide list). Since deletion is an administrative action, I didn't want to go undoing it without checking with you to make sure this was a mistake and not something you intended to resolve by some other means. Anyway, let me know, and thanks for keeping an eye on things around here while I've been gone. I'll probably back to helping out with maintenance by this weekend. -- Nonoitall talk contr 23:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mean to delete the templates mate. I wanted to delete the pages which were separately created by an anonymous ip. The pages were made with no other material on them but the same material that was on the saga pages (which I have heavily worked on recently.) I was unaware that the templates themselves had been done away with. However, that can easily be fixed although I hope there won't be separate pages for the edited and uncut versions as that's highly unnecessary. I'm glad you came back as there's been much pressure from numerous anonymous ip's constantly vandalizing pages and additional irrelevant information being added and relevant information being removed/terminated. I'm glad to see you've returned mate. Let me know what we need to do in order to proceed in reviving the templates. I think it's a basic process. I'll get to it and have 'em back in the next hour or so. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, no big deal. Since it wasn't by design I'll help out. I saw you added those images to the saga pages — looks good. :-) -- Nonoitall talk contr 10:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I got the templates back up, hope they look good as new. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply: Majin Buu Articles

Yes I definitely agree about splitting up the forms, as most are different entities like you said. As you may have seen, I massively touched up the whole overview section on the Majin Buu article, just to make it sound a bit better, links, fixes etc. And of course I'd be happy to fully assist in these new Buu articles as well.
 talk contr 
02:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks as always my comrade. I was looking over the Buu related pages and now it seems much better and accurate as a resource; The Buu page was the messiest out of all the villain pages, but now it seems better. There's still some repetition and minor fixes to be made, but we've made lots of progress in one day.
On another note, I've noticed Vegerot's childish antics; he's been adding a lot of gibberish to the talk pages with numerous exclamation marks... not sure if that helps prove a point on his behalf, although it does seem highly infantile. He's been trying to add Youtube/Google video links on a few pages I've noticed. If I find any others, I will revert the additional madness, though I hope he resists the urge to add more useless material. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I know that the article was shortened and divided up between the different pages but something needs to be done about the huge gap in the biography of the Majin Buu article. It goes from Super Buu senses where the warriors are to Kid buu goes in for the kill. Thunderbender18 22:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Then summarize that in one sentence as it doesn't pertain to Majin Buu and shouldn't be repeated in his profile to that extent of ten enormous paragraphs. Something on the lines of after an extensive absence, Majin Buu is seen again... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I've got one question about this whole thing. Are fat buu and Mr. Buu the same being?Elementite 17:50, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Fat Buu is Mr. Buu. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


I didn't add false fan info (as far as I can tell, though one can argue over translation sources). Everything's credited from the magazine that published the series in Japan and from a sourcebook. The book is the one made to go along with the Toei anime festival where DBZ movie 3 premiered, so it is official (potential canon debates aside). Also, I'm not as familiar with the nuances of this wikia. On Wikipedia, the rule of thumb is that trivia sections aren't encyclopedic, and if possible should be integrated into the main article. Since this info is biographical in nature, and these characters have short, list-worthy bios as it is, it seems more orderly to me to add a sentence or two to the bio rather than create a trivia section. Onikage725 15:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

No, sorry. The only material that is allowed in the bio section is from the anime only. As you stated, the material was printed and handed out in a festival. That in and of itself, is non-canonical. And I'm sorry, but I can't disregard canon. That's what makes this an encyclopedic resource. I can only allow it to go into the trivia section, at best. And even then, it becomes almost irrelevant or highly inconsequential material. If it's not stated in the manga or anime, then it is truly inconsequential. Any second-hand resource can only be integrated into the trivia section. That's why the trivia section exists, for things like that. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Much of the info was also in Weekly Jump, as I said before. And is this the Dragon Ball wikia, or the Dragon Ball anime-only wikia? 'Cuz I didn't realize that this only covered the anime, and from an in-universe from perspective. But hey, it isn't that important to me, and I said I'm not that vested in it. You have the info and the source- do whatever you want with it, or ignore it. Just one further question. This place runs on a different set of guidelines than the main Wikipedia, then? Because they've really spent the last year or more drilling us out of the habit of using trivia sections over there for anything more than just a temporary info dump before someone can edit info into the main article. Maybe a sentence leading in under the main bio like "Furthermore, supplementary material provided this background info." or something like that. Onikage725 16:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
The situation at wikipedia is no comparison. You won't find any information whatsoever. There, the likes of tertiary and even some supporting characters have been completely removed and only main characters have been kept. Of course the trivia sections have been eliminated completely there. It is only natural that we maintain these ideas in a concrete manner, in a trivia section. But I still don't see the comparison. Whereas here you can add all related material when it comes to Turles' men and there, you can't even mention their names, much less add this information you've wanted to add. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Hm, I didn't know it had gotten that bad. I haven't edited DB articles in awhile. I was mainly referring to general Wikipedia moreso than what the DB editors are doing (if I recall, Collectonian and Sesshomaru basically had them in an iron grip, so I backed off). So I guess my suggestion is to add it under the main data but in that section, sourced and with a lead-in that says where its from. Why? Because as biographical data, it is all we have. The main stuff now is just fan-analysis of the very brief appearance of the characters. And the book was licensed by Toei, who made the anime and had design notes for the movie characters from Toriyama. Onikage725 18:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
That's not how the articles are drafted though. Material pertaining only and stemming from the anime appearance itself is what goes in the biographical section. For example, take Amond. Amond arrives with his comrades. He proceeds to battle against Krillin. He is then defeated alongside his comrades by an enraged Goku. That would be the preferable biographical section for that character. Anything else wouldn't correspond to the offscreen material. Anything that is reference to the character but offscreen would go in a trivia section. This is how we are maintaining it here. I'm sorry, but this will make for a much more accurate encyclopedic resource. I'm surprised you didn't know what happened on wikipedia though. They've completely merged all the characters (aside from the likes of Goku,Gohan, etc.) into one horrid page. And they won't even allow images of the characters, much less information. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah! At a glance, it seems that any character that isn't a main villain or Z senshi doesn't even merit a mention on the list. I'm very disappointed. And I understand about the other trivia thing, if that's how it is handled here. I'll take a look at it in a week or so if noone else wants to (I have a week off from work coming up). Onikage725 20:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

The new article of the month

I decided now to go ahead and use an object for this months article. I'm going to try and attempt to go in the following order after this new article (Hero, Villain, Technique, Object, Place, other random article). That is sort of what I had came up with, but of course you're welcome to put any suggestions in, as the article of the month is not just mine. The object I chose is none other than Future Trunks' sword. What do you think? Should we keep it or do a different one? Any suggestions or thoughts?
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19:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
The only suggestion I have is that you check the accuracy and spelling, etc. in the articles you choose for the future. That one seems to be well-formulated though. Go ahead mate, you can put it up. I was thinking of anything related to the black water mist, sacred water, and/or kami's lookout might make a nice future article of the month too, as it deals with the planet's guardian, etc. If you are going to put one image on the main page, I'd prefer one of the sword itself rather than one with Trunks holding it or Frieza getting sliced, as it was initially Tapion's, etc. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I actually created that article a few days ago, I was very surprised we did not have one on it. Just figured that sword is pretty popular among the Dragon Ball fan base, so it might make for a good featured article. I definitely agree on a future featured article being something along the lines of Kami's Lookout...that would be a perfect place to start when dealing with locations. Finding an image of just the sword is sort of tricky, but I'll try and look (also just want to throw in their that it is actually not Tapion's sword, you can read a little bit more about that on the page itself. Seeing as how your more of a villain fan, you may not have known that XD).

Yeah, I meant the model. If you can't find an image of the sword used in the Hirudegarn flick, I'd assume one from the Trunks saga would be fine. However, I've scoured the net and was unsuccessful in finding a single image of the sword without him holding it. Assuming it has to be a screenshot, I'd still prefer one of Trunks with the sword rather than him putting the sword to use (anything where we can see the blade better would work.) - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:58, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
For now I'm just going to use the image of him holding the sword, as he is not really "using it", but if I happen to come across just an image of the sword itself, I will definitely change it. Let me know if you happen to find anything.
 talk contr 
20:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Goku and Friends return

You sure they are fillers? The special wasn't "filling" anything plus filler is considered non-canon and the special could be considered canon since it doesn't contradict anything and was written by Toriyama, unlike other movies that can't even take place--Rod|talk 01:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

This is untrue. Much of the movies were aided in writing by Toriyama himself. And much of the characters in the movies were all designed by him although the storyline was implemented by many as a joined effort. Movie 14 is the same as the other movies. Filler is anything that isn't manga-derived. If the initial conception was in manga format, however, it would not have been filler. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
True but this special was actually written by Toriyama (though not the actual script) In any case wouldn't it be any better to change the category to "Move Characters" "Semi canon characters" or something like that? I don't really feel that "filler" is the correct term--Rod|talk 01:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
It's a lot simpler than "Semi canon characters" or "Movie characters" as that would create a problem in accordance with the rest of the movies. They are filler regardless of anything though because they don't slide into the series storyline as much of the movies have these technical dilemmas. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Majin Buu Article

It seems you and I are in disagreement about the Majin Buu articles and I'd rather talk about it here than have another edit war.

The term Majin Buu is the name given Bibidi's demon creation and all its forms, not just the fat one. The Majin Buu page seems to have become a page just for Fat Buu when it is supposed to the main page for all the forms.

Also I know that we've been trying to shorten the page as much as possible to avoid clutter but we cant just leave the character history page with a huge jump from the creation of Super Buu to Goku and Vegeta inside Super Buu's head. The way I had it before provided a brief as possible summary of Majin Buu's character history with the in depth story on respective pages of all his forms, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Evil Buu, Kid Buu. Thunderbender18 03:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

No, sorry. The Majin Buu page is intended to be for his Fat Buu form, also known as Mr. Buu, etc. There is no need for a "main" page just for Majin Buu and pages for his forms. The entire reason behind cutting his page into forms is to avoid having a main page with all the same information repeated as gibberish. All the information you want to be on the Fat Buu page needs to go under the title of "Majin Buu" henceforth. Any information in relation to the other forms, you will have to add on their specific pages; and please don't repeat attacks and character history on all the pages. The history of Kid Buu and his attacks need not be repeated on the Majin Buu page and vice versa. The entire concept of having separate pages is to limit them to the specific character. For example, if you don't see Kid Buu doing the "chocolate beam" attack, then don't add it to his page. That belongs on Majin Buu's page, but not on Kid Buu's page. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Random Question

Hi PrinceZarbon, I need to ask you a question that's really not related to this article: Will there be a DragonBall Z Budokai Tenkaichi 4 and a DragonBall Z Burst Limit 2 for Xbox 360 and PS3? I am just asking this question, because i heard that spike might continue making for DBZ games since DragonBall Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 did a good job with the highest game rating then DragonBall Z Burst Limit. Do you think it is likely that they are making a DragonBall Z Budokai Tenkaichi 4 and a DragonBall Z Burst Limit 2 at the same time for the Xbox 360 and PS3? DBZfaner100(talk) 05:5, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

As of now, there are no plans for either of those in upcoming releases. I believe the Tenkaichi series has run its course as they said the third installment would be the last. However, I'm not a game developer, so anything is possible a few years down the road. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


Hey, just wanted to let you guys know I can get back to maintenance now. Because the wiki is as active as ever, I was wondering if you guys might be interested in divvying up the work between the three of us (and anyone else who expresses interest and seems capable of the task). (Perhaps each of us could review changes for certain days or certain times of the day?) My thinking is that with all three of us sharing the task it won't be too burdensome, and then if one of us needs to take a break, the other two will be there to pick up the slack. Would you guys go for something like that? -- Nonoitall talk contr 10:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

SSJGoku93 and I have a good thing going in terms of checking/maintenance. I normally check up on all the villain articles a few times a day and he checks on all the hero articles (in order to revert vandalism and/or irregular additions). We sort of work better maintaining certain articles. And we switch between checking the objects, locations, organizations, races, etc. I don't have a better schedule fit seeing as to the fact that I'll have to always update something on the main page myself (QOTD) which I will always be handling myself. However, you should be able to perform a check on all of the articles you feel necessary as a run-through while I limit my checks to villains and SSJGoku93 limits his checks to heroes. On another note, I'd like your opinion in regards to this article: Dragon Ball Z: Abridged - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply: Symbols

Yes I definitely agree, I was just fixing up and categorizing the ones that were added by someone who apparently seemed to have worked pretty hard on them. But, I also agree that it would be more convenient. Should we get working on it?
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00:03, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking that maybe we should compile all the necessary components first; I mean which symbols we can think of which aren't already listed in that category, and add them all in, then we should fuse them on one page and delete the separate pages. But I'm loving the way the images are looking, it's a great resource, and an overall great feature to have; very encyclopedic and very origin related. I know we're missing the symbol of Cooler's armored squadron (the one I'm wearing whilst under Salza guise) - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, lets see. Off the top of my head I know that Future Gohan had his own kanji, Boss Rabbit, Emperor Pilaf and the Majin Symbol. As for others I'd suggest we look around and see if we can find any.
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00:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Cool mate. I'm just really loving the entire idea of having these symbols in one uniform page; it's probably unique in itself to this wikia as it makes for a really nice resource altogether. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree. I'm going to go ahead and make the article, should we just simply call it Symbols or Kanjis or Symbols and Kanjis or? Any ideas?
 talk contr 
00:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking of something along the lines of "List of Symbols" and we could have in the description complete guide to symbols and kanjis in the series and movies. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, so I'm currently in the middle of creating it, now do you think I should just redirect all of the current pages or just do a copy and paste, followed by a deletion of that page?
 talk contr 
00:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I assume we should first copy and paste everything into that one page and delete the separate pages. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, we were in the middle of discussing the issue in the talk page

You also did claim you would not revert, only to go back on that statement and not only revert but also protect the page. This Zarbon constitutes abuse of sysop powers and thus will be reported to the Bureaucrat assigned to the Dragon Ball wikia. Sysops are not to have their powers involved in disputes where they are personally involved in. Additionally please note that Wikia is not a sister project to Wikimedia and therefore Wikimedia’s guidelines and policies do not affect this project. -- bulletproof 04:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I did not say I would not revert. I said YOU should not revert! And then I protected the page in order to avoid further reverts. Look what I said last. I have now brought this matter up to my fellow administrators and they will also join in the fray. I was hoping to avoid further confrontation on this matter but I've seen you further abuse the page to your liking in the past and was forced to take action. If for any reason you still feel the movie is for "mixed" reviews, please try to prove this on the talk page. That's why we are civilized people, so that we can avoid compromising situations. You will find that I'm actually very patient, open, and flexible. And your accusing me of "abusing sysop powers" is not only limited to your own set of principles but it's wrong in and of itself. I have thus far NEVER abused this "power" and neither do I plan on doing so. I've literally brought this issue up prior to even protecting the page. So, may I ask, how DARE you even say that to me, knowing that my behavior has been cordial and patient with you. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:58, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Just a follow up on that, [2] I believe you said "This is the last time I revert" but hey its cool, this will all be resolved soon. -- bulletproof 05:04, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Here let me post the ENTIRE sentence for you to read in case you may have problems: This is the last time I am reverting this. Do not revert to "mixed" reviews. See what other members have to say about this first. Numerous complaints have led me to add a citation to the article
It's funny how you neglected the rest of the sentence. You seem to have failed to read the second half of my assertion at your leisure. I warned you twice prior to my protection of the page. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
You have also apparently failed to notice that I've added more than 4 other reviews in order to clarify for you, since you expressed that one source didn't particularly convey the message accurately enough. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:11, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Regarding DB Evolution talk page

Hi. I've commented on the matter on the DBE talk page. Thanks for dropping me a line regarding your concerns! For future reference, when you do have a fairly strong opinion about what's said on an article, it might be advisable to have another admin protect the page (if it really needs protecting). If someone else isn't around to do so and you have to, make sure and leave a note on the article regarding explaining that there's a discussion going on. Back when I first was promoted to sysop, Uberfuzzy gave me some good advice with regards to page protection (and any administrative tool, really). Hopefully he won't mind my sharing it:

"as an admin, one the reasons you have the power to lock a page is to prevent edit wars just like that. you are within your right to do so, as long as its not a permanent lock, and that you make sure you let people know you are doing it to give the parties involved time to cool down and think about their actions.

remember, that having that sysop by your name doesnt make you better or worse then the other editors, your opinion matters just as much as others, it just means you have more buttons to click on. if you have an opinion to either side in an edit war, make your voice heard. if it elevates to the point where you must do something admin'y, remember to do so in a unbiased way, and not let your powers be the deciding matter.
— Uberfuzzy

I only mention it because I'm sure bulletproof was probably feeling threatened by having a differing opinion from an admin (especially given one of the edit summaries you left), and really no one should have to feel that way. I know it wasn't your intention to be threatening, but sometimes we can get so caught up trying to improve the wiki that we get a little over-protective. Sometimes we just need to slow things down so that things can get talked out. (I figure that's probably why you protected the page.) Anyway, no harm done, and hopefully our course of action with this article will get all ironed out shortly. :-) Thanks for your continued contributions towards the wiki! -- Nonoitall talk contr 09:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for the helpful advice as always. I had no intention to leave a protection. I just temporarily did that in order to prevent an edit war. You can see almost all protections I've made are in regards to vandalism or edit warring, which are two elements we are trying to avoid. In any case, I will notify you if the need to protect a page of this caliber comes up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:24, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Manga Scan

I might be able to find it if you know what in what volume/chapter it's in --Rod|talk 03:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

It's in volume/book 21 or 22 when going by complete 42. Or 5 or 6 based on DBZ series by Viz. It's in the beginning of book 5 or 6 for DBZ series. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm missing most of the Freezer saga, but there's a convention in about a month and I'll probably be completing it--Rod|talk 04:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Final Saga Notation

Well the Frieza Saga being the last Saga is mainly speculation, no one knows truly what Toriyama intended, he might have just said that, no one knows for sure. There has always been all types of rumors going around that the next saga was "Supposedly his last" it's to surprise everyone. Just like Hideo Kojima and the Metal Gear Solid Series, the next game is "Supposedly his last" it's all to surprise the fans and hype it up. Well actually i've heard that the Cell Saga was intended to be the last saga not the Frieza Saga, and because there is no evidence of the Frieza Saga, or Cell Saga for that matter being the last Saga and because it's speculation, then I think it should be removed. And look, in the end, the show didn't end at any of these sagas, so it doesn't really matter anyways, who cares. What matters is the material we have now, and the fact that he did finish it, the way he wanted to finish it. And i'm glad he finished it the way he finished it, any earlier and it would have felt as if a lot would be missing. I think the Dragonball Universe is complete the way it is now. Look if you find a credible source which I highly doubt then you can leave it, otherwise I think it should be removed, the Frieza page should be filled with facts, not rumors or speculation. I'm sorry if that's what you believe but if you can't back up your statement with hard evidence then that paragraph should be removed. So until you provide any sort of evidence, then I'm going to remove it. Also if you want, to make us both happy you can begin the paragraph by saying, "It has been rumored that...." or "It has been speculated that" or maybe even "Even though it has not been credited some fans believe that....". Let me know what you think.

Final Saga Notation

Very well then, but since you can't find a credible source, you should at least start off the paragraph saying "It has been rumored that...." or "It has been speculated that" or "Even though it has not been credited some fans believe that....". Ohh and really, if piccolo was toriyama's favorite, why didn't he make him the main character?? lol jp, but really all that, that you're saying is what you believe because you've read it somewhere, that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. I don't believe everything I read, especially if there are no credible sources, another reason why I think the paragraph should be started with one of those quotes above.

Alright mate. I will notate "It has been speculated that..." on the page as citation. I've also provided a source where Piccolo is his favorite character. Check it out under trivia on Piccolo's page if you're interested. It's been there for a long time now. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it. Ohh and will do. I guess everyone has their own opinion on their favorite character, even the author himself. Doesn't change anything, lol. My favorite character since I was a kid is and always will be Goku, he's my idol.
Goku is almost everyone's favorite, aside from Vegeta being a common favorite. I personally don't like any heroes. I'm a villain lover cross-dimensionally speaking (from tv, movies, anime, comics, etc.) I have a list of over 400 favorite characters and they're all villains. I don't like heroes as they, to me, aren't designed as enthralling as villains. In terms of DBZ, I have a clear-cut top 100, and they're all villains who are executed brutally (as a result of their own brutality). I don't particularly like any of the other main villains, as they aren't very enigmatic in their behavior (Buu, Cell). The only main villain who remotely makes my list is Frieza. But hey, everybody has their own opinion. I've found that most fans like the heroes and especially Goku and Vegeta. I dislike heroes (not only because of their initial appearance, design, construct, etc. but also because they are instinctively responsible for exterminating all the characters I actually do like. Should make sense. But the beauty of it all is that everyone has their own opinion my comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

can i get some help!!!!

hey prince i need some help.i know you have a "packed schedule" but yeah help me by making ssj5 through ssj 10 pages

I don't exactly understand what it is you are saying by making ssj5 through ssj 10 pages... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply: DBE talk page

How's it going bud? Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner, I've just been pretty busy this weekend. Any whom, I went ahead and read over what was talked about over on the DBE talk page. I suppose BulletProof does bring up a good point that is wasn't exactly terribly panned, but wasn't praised either. I'm going to try and stay out of this argument, as it seems better for the 2 of you to settle it. If you want my personal opinion, I believe we should say "mixed", but follow that up with examples of reviews that say the film was terrible and reviews that say the positives about the film. Let me know if you really DO need me in on the discussion. Talk to you soon.
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02:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Regarding the forum rules

Okay,that said,you should respect my opinions,as that is the forum way.also,i'm sure Turles Beat the Z-fighters,it happened after goku's spirit bomb failed.and they fought flying up the tree of might.....

I'm getting tired of moving your comments to the bottom of the talk page. From now on, please try to post your comment at the bottom; the most recent material goes in the bottom, that's how a talk page is formatted. Also, you are allowed to make a topic about abridged and chat about that there. About Turles, most of the stuff is repetitive. I do respect your opinion though, that's why I'm responding. I've also created a topic covering abridged, just for fans like yourself. Have fun mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Z: Infinite World Vegeta (GT)/ Piccolo

Can't Vegeta(GT) go Super Saiyan 2. & Piccolo doesn't really fuse with nail i think he synu's with Nail.

Piccolo and Nail fuse. They even call it a fusion. I don't really think Vegeta goes ss3 but he does go ss2 prior to GT. He may not undergo the transformation during GT, but he is capable of doing it as witnessed against Semi-Perfect Cell. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


Neither of those names are taken from the manga, all of them are taken from a special Jump issue (Dragon ball adventure or something) here's the translation|talk 01:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, if it makes any difference the new super exciting guide and daizenshu 7, both supervised by Toriyama, have the same info--Rod|talk 02:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

It makes sense that they would; it's still trivia information. Please try to maintain them in the trivia sections. I will put the Akkuman and Murasaki trivia in their sections but if you've got any other important ones like those, follow this consensus and just add them in the trivia section. Only manga and anime insertions go in the bios mate. Thanks. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

New here.

So, I don't know much about editing wiki yet, so for the moment I think I am going to stick to spell/grammar/word use checking. I might do more later, but I don't want to mess with something and end up breaking the page. Thanks for your offer of help though.

Re: In Regards to the Invisible Man

Hi. I see your point. By our current manual of style and the consensus established regarding naming conventions, the name would simply be "See-Through" in that case. Thanks for pointing that out! -- Nonoitall talk contr 06:03, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

No prob. Following the current manual of style, and based on the emphasis on the names derived from the anime as opposed to the Viz translated manga, that would be the correct title, See-Through. Thanks again for looking at this, I'm always grateful for your input mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


Hello PrinceZarbon! I'am Pokémon493. --Pokémon493 17:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello there. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
PrinceZarbon Hello again! idgo you inform me that just because English is a little, but my native language is Spanish. ---Pokémon493 00:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Dynamic Signature


Just wondering... I notice you and Nonoitall appear to have retroactive signatures; signatures which retroactively change in old posts with your signature in them whenever you alter your signature page. Is that, like, a higher-up feature? Or do I just have the wrong kind of code written in my signature thing? (Currently "{{SUBST:User:Doc Lithius/signature}}".)

Thanks! ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 02:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I actually don't think I have a retroactive one currently. I altered it last back on April 24 and kept it as such. If you check my posts prior to the 24th of April you will see that my old sig is still visible and remains unaltered. If nonoitall is using a retroactive one though, it is highly possible, but I am not aware of how to alter it furthermore. I initially contacted SSJGoku93 in order for help regarding the sigs. He helped me a great deal. I myself don't know much more about it than any other member; it's possible that nonoitall understands a whole lot more in regards to toying with the sigs, etc. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, I say this because if you look at YOUR signature in posts and you look at MY signature in posts, YOUR signature is always a simple template whereas MY signature is the whole she-bang of coding despite the fact I tell the signature to call the page as a template, not copy-and-paste its contents... I'm not sure what I could be doing wrong. I just want my signature to act like yours instead of adding 300-some characters of useless content to the page. D: ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 13:29, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Makes sense. I believe what I did back then (or SSJGoku93 did for me) was create a separate template and establish it as the sig. Then, he made another template for which he copied and pasted the initial construct there, calling it the same thing but with sig2 attached in the end. He told me to take the overall template afterward and placed it in the custom sig bar under preferences, for which it altered the sig, limiting the amount of material pasted, etc. If you follow the exact same instructions I did (under SSJGoku93's guidance), you should be able to pull it off. If you scroll up on my talk page (which I should be archiving sometime soon), near the point where the title says "Re: SIG", you will find how SSJGoku93 helped me have a substantially shorter sig, etc. It's the same instructions I followed. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's hopin', eh? Cheers, mate! ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 01:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh heck yeah! It works! I'm gonna have to go thank SSJ now! ^_^ And thank YOU for pointing out this neat trick! ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 01:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
You're always welcome my comrade! :] - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:05, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Spice Boys and Ginyu Force

Spice resembles Zarbon, not Jeice. Vinegar resembles Recoome, not Mustard. Guldo does not resemble Salt, except for both being short. Burter resembles none.

Well that's why it's called resembling, and I was talking about their height, I forgot to put that in there lol, that's important information. So i'm going to go change it.

Move Log

SSJ2AJB Hey PrinceZarbon, what's up? I want to ask you something about the move log here. I've been seeing other users move the titles of different article pages to more appropriate titles. However, I tried it once, but I was a bit confused on how to do it. Can you tell me how you move article pages to more appropriate titles on my talk page?

Well, the page I'm trying to move is the Heat Dome page. In the Budokai Tenkaichi series, the attack was actually called Heat Dome Attack not just Heat Dome. I want to put in the correct name by moving the page to the correct name, but I don't know how. Can you please do it for me?
Thanks for moving the Heat Dome Attack page, man.
Much welcome mate! - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


Thanks! Like I told SSJGoku93, I've been working on a section in my wiki productivity tips section for signatures, since it seems to be something a lot of people ask about. Thanks to both of you for your vigilant efforts around here — it's really begun to show as an improvement in the wiki! -- Nonoitall talk contr 22:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Quick note

How's it going Zarbon? Any whom, recently I've been noticing you've been kind of harsh when it comes to banning users that vandalize. Now I'm well aware there is a 0% tolerance level here for that kind of activity, but for example the user you just blocked for 6 months, really only vandalized a few small pages. I am in NO way defending him or any other of the vandalizers, but don't you think 6 months is a bit harsh? I personally think a month would have been sufficient, but it was your call to make. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just simply saying 6 months seems a bit harsh. Now if it was a user who constantly did a bunch of vandalism in horrible ways then yes, but a couple non sense changes and foul languages doesn't really deserve more than a month or two at most in my eyes. Like I said, I'm not "yelling" at you, just expressing my thoughts bud, everyone has different opinions and tolerance levels. Talk to you soon.
 talk contr 
00:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I assume some users get their kicks from vandalizing administrator pages. But that's not in the least bit funny or appropriate. Sometimes, if I find the material that is being altered is extremely offensive and/or excessive in terms of foul language, I will infinite ban them. I will adjust the ban setting for this scenario to a lesser amount. However, if this specific user keeps doing it after the ban is up, we will of course be forced to take action. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I 150% know where you are coming from, I was just simply saying that it seemed a bit harsh given what that user actually did. But like I said, that was completely your call to make as he definitely did not do anything positive for this wiki. Anyways, lets keep up the good work! I'm trying to think of some new feature we could use, but not sure yet.
 talk contr 
00:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not defending the dude myself, but I do have to admit... At least he had the cajones to vandalize things with a registered user account rather than skirt around with an anonymous IP address. It's not often I actually see such stupidity/bravery in a user. XD ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 01:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Aye mates. You'd think he'd do it as an ip address, but to become a member just to vandalize; it becomes a mockery of what we're doing here. But admittedly, quite laughable. XD indeed mate. XD. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Reply on #17 and #18

I agree, the only reason I added the categories is because they would technically be considered full villains in the alternate timeline, and sense we have no way of separating them yet, that is why I added those. I'm all for making "Future" pages for both of the androids, in fact, I'll do the honors if you want?
 talk contr 
20:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes, that way the actual 17 and 18 don't have two contradictory categories on them. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
All done now, add more where you feel necessary etc. Heres the links if you want to check them out. Future Android 17, Future Android 18.
 talk contr 
00:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Excellent. Now we can remove the villain category tags from the original 17 and 18. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Reply: Image

I understand what your saying, I only moved them around because it looked kind of silly being all alone under the infobox, but I suppose you have a good point about all the images being bunched up etc.
 talk contr 
20:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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