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I have archived my talk page. Feel free to ask any questions. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:22, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Poll Talk

Well here's the thing, lol, they're not all good. I mean some of the user-suggested ones are just kind of nonsensical, to the point that I wouldn't use some, but I don't want to embarrass anyone by removing their suggestion completely. Thoughts? -- SSJ4 Goku(5) 10X ..... talk ..... contrib. 19:21, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Please remove the used suggestions but maintain those that haven't been used, yet suggested by myself in the first section. Remove those that are nonsensical or just plain repeats of prior suggestions in minor rewordings. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:32, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. When I removed the used ones to begin with, I merged the ones that were repeats, I can go through and get rid of the nonsensical ones too. -- SSJ4 Goku(5) 10X ..... talk ..... contrib. 00:12, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hello again

Hello again my Prince, i thought i would stop by say hello and how is it going?VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 22:30, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I presume. I'm currently preoccupied with another site (deviantart) whilst sharing the glory of our wonderful wiki. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:45, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oh yes i have herad of that site it's pretty popular from what i hear. I thought i should let you know that the links that you gave on your user page to your favorite Wiki's aren't working. Also have you played any more First Person Shooter games since we talked last time?VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 23:51, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
Thanx, I checked it out and fixed the links. The most recent FP games I am currently playing are Chronicles of Riddick (both of them), Aliens versus Predator, Bioshock 2, and Resistance. My most wanted FP at the time is FEAR 3, it's one I truly want but am waiting for the price to drop. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:02, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah i hate how the games have to be so high i want to play Fear 3 it looks fun did you like the first two fear games and if so witch did you like better?VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 00:06, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
I loved both fear games prior to the release of the third. I liked them equally. My favorite characters were the fat guy in the first one (the one that kept sealing doors shut against the main player and died when the facility exploded but not before talking to the player while dying on the ground [I want to know his name] and the sergeant fellow with the moustache in the second game whom you wrestle and shoot him in the neck after breaking down the door. Those are my favorite characters in those two games. Any help finding their names would be awesome. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:16, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Oh i know what your talking about, i will go check and will tell you there names after i find them. =]VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 17:11, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Frieza Saga

Hello, PrinceZarbon, I have a theroy here that you might not understand right away. It is a little complicated, and once you understand what I am trying to say, you can say "yah" or "nah". Please if you do not fully understand, ask me for specifics, thanks. Okay... My idea is about the frieza saga. The topic is "The Frieza saga is the only saga in DragonBall Z influenced from a previous saga in the same series." And the saga that influenced the frieza saga was the saiyan saga. If the saiyan saga never happened, then the frieza saga would not of happened, see? It is in the same series that influenced it. Now... to back it up, the saiyan saga was influenced from goku, who was introduced in dragonball (Different series). The Garlic saga was influenced from kami who was introduced in the dragonball series (Different series). The cell saga was influenced from dr gero who was also in dragonball series (Different series). And finally, the majin buu saga was influenced from Bibidi who was well before the dragonball series (Different series). So basically, what I am saying, if it wasn't for Vegeta, who we didn't know about until dragonball z, the frieza saga would not of happened. The frieza saga was influenced from a saga in the same series. Do you think you understand? I know, its a mess. ^_^ Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 02:42, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

That's too confusing. The Frieza saga is connected to the Saiyan saga so it's obviously influenced by it... as a matter of fact, there are essentially three REAL breakdowns of the series rather than 16 sagas as with the English version. In the original Japanese, there's merely Frieza, Cell, and Buu... which means the Saiyan saga is just a part of the Frieza saga. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:21, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, yeah that is true with the japanese version and all, but this is the english version we are following right? So I do not think we should base the wiki off the japanese version or else everyone would be lost. But yes, it is confusing, but you are not saying I am wrong right? Because the cell saga and buu saga were influenced from dragonball, and before dragonball even started. So you at least know what I was trying to say right? Thanks Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 03:56, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
If it helps any, I was trying to say, that if the Frieza saga did not happen, the cell saga would still of happened, just without Cold's DNA. And the buu saga would of still played out as well, because babidi was alive. And That the frieza saga was influenced because of DBZ, where the other sagas were influenced from pre-dbz. Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 03:59, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Your hypothesis is somewhat flawed, I feel. The Bardock story takes place prior to the Saiyan era. And Frieza's story occurs prior to the events of the first saga, so technically, that's the other way around also. Frieza as a villain appears prior to the events of the Saiyan era by chronological order. We can't conveniently disqualify the movies and still say we go by the English version when this takes place in both English and Japanese. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:58, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it is confusing. But the Bardock story did not influence the Frieza saga on earth. See, the saiyan saga was going to happen no matter what. But if vegeta did not come, and no one died, then there would be no reason to go to Namek, thus the Frieza saga never happened, because Frieza maybe did not even know of earth yet. Cell, was still going to be created because of Goku's assination of the RRA, and Majin Buu was still going to be revived either way. So it is kind of like the Frieza saga was a bonus or something that did not really need to happen. So I know it is a mouth full and really hard to be put into words. So basically, even though the Bardock saga did happen, it still didn't stimulate earth to go to Namek and confront Frieza. The frieza saga was "sparked" because of the saiyans. But if what you say is true, about only being "Three sagas", then this would be obsolete. But I do believe that in the japanese version of the DVD's, they have the "Saiya-jin saga", "Furiza saga", "Gurlik saga", "Seru saga", and "Dinjo buu saga". Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:32, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I'm completely against this notion. In fact, the concept of the Cell Saga and the Buu saga is completely random and would not have taken place because Toriyama created them well after the Frieza saga. In fact, the official ending to Dragon Ball was supposed to be Trunks slicing Frieza in half... and he was supposed to be the Super Saiyan from the future and deliver the message that the future is free from danger... but instead... Toriyama extended the story to make him bring an antidote for Goku which could be used years in the future for the battle against the Androids. Technically, it's completely the other way around. I feel the Cell saga is the most useless and the Buu saga is secondly useless but not as useless as the Cell saga. The Cell Saga is so random that even Gero was created after the concept of the destruction of the Red Ribbon Army so that another saga could be created for no reason... because the fans wanted more after Frieza's death. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:14, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that it fine, and I have to agree, the Cell saga is random and there is no plot to base it off of. I know the Frieza saga was suppose to be the ending, but I did not know the finale was Trunks slicing him in half was the ending. Can you explain more on that? Was he vegeta's son, or just a random Super Saiyan? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 00:20, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Trunks was going to be the same character, no difference. He just added the Cell stuff for no reason and made it completely random. Also, I hate the Cell Games. Ultimately, it's my least favorite story arc in the entire series, including DB, Z, and GT. The only thing I remotely liked about that story arc was Caroni and Pirozhki and even they did very little and were filler. In fact, I hated the entire useless conflict between Gohan and Cell... is it supposed to be appealing to see a little kid surpass everyone and topple this guy who's supposed to have everyone's genetics inside him? It's random and boring to me. I think the saga ended up sucking because Toriyama's assistant may have helped him with that saga's written work. The android saga was so brilliant the way it unfolded and the battles between Android 19, Dr. Gero, Android 17, Android 18, etc. But then Cell showed up and ruined everything for me. He's the absolute most useless and boring antagonist character to me in the entire series and I hated the concept of the Cell Games. Why would someone hold a tournament when they can just eradicate the earth in the first place? That was useless and idiotic to me. We are introduced to actual villains who are power hungry and savage and trade planets for a living... and then we see this moronic construct who wants to fight stronger opponents because of Vegeta's and Goku's DNA in him... I hated the entire concept of Cell and the whole cell games debacle. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:28, September 5, 2011 (UTC) Yeah, is it random for him not to blow up the earth when he had the chance. I assume Toriyama was running out of ideas, and the fans were demanding more. Cell is suppose to be a real huge success amongst fans I hear. Do you not care for the character? And actually, Caroni kind of reminds me of Zarbon (Good looks, full of himself), and Pirozhki reminds me of Dodoria (Big, fat, muscle man). Is that why you liked them? And the android saga... Yes they did have something going with a good balance, but you said you liked that saga until cell came up? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 00:37, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I liked Caroni and Pirozhki for the reasons you said and because they were different from the obsessively onscreen characters we see all the time. Also, I hated how much air time was added to Cell. The manga has him much less than the anime. There's a whole filler arc in between the Cell v Trunks and Cell Games debacle that could have been avoided and it gave Cell more air time to make it even more boring. I don't think Cell sucked right off the bat either. I preferred when Piccolo whipped him in form 1 and when Vegeta completely butchered him in form 2. But when he became "perfect", the story really spiraled downward to me and became extremely boring. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:41, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Do you think that is trivia for the pages, saying they bear resemblences to Zarbon and Dodoria? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 00:46, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Not necessarily... we had that sort of information but we removed them from the trivia sections as lookalikes or characters modeled like others are simply stated in their "appearance" or "bio" sections. In fact, if you went to Caroni's profile, you'd see that the reference to Zarbon is right there near the beginning of his bio. There's a slew of characters who are ripped off from Zarbon's base model, including, but not limited to: Caroni, Salza, Angila, and Spice. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:52, September 5, 2011 (UTC) Oh yeah, I just noticed that. And what about Dodoria? He kind of resemembles Pirozhki. And Salaza? I think he kind of looks more like Jeice. And are you the one who likes Jeice, and hates Captain Ginyu? (I cannot remember, someone told me they like jeice, but hate captain ginyu). And about the android saga, you said you liked it until cell came up? So you liked the plot that was developing up until that point with androids 19, 20, 17, and 18? Personally I like 17 because of his humour and additude like "I'll shut you up". Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 01:35, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

I don't hate Ginyu, I just hate his ending. I personally hate android 17. He's officially my least favorite character in the entire series aside from Vegeta. My hatred for them is simple; I hate people who betray the villains; the actual villains. Also, I consider 17 to be a useless punk. Vegeta at least was a warrior but I hate his actions also. My favorite in the android debacle is Android 19 (due to his extremely awesome battle against Vegeta and Goku), closely followed by Gero. I hate 17 but his fight against Piccolo was awesomeness. I loved how Piccolo beat him to a pulp; it's one of the only times in the entire series I actually rooted for a hero character over an antagonist due to how much I hate 17. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:44, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I am not saying I "love" android 17, but out of that saga, I would have to choose him, but I change favourite characters a lot. And who betrayed the actual villains? Are you saying android 17 betrayed cell? And wow, I didn't know you hated vegeta that much lol. do you hate vegeta because he... well... he killed... Zar-...bon? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 01:48, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
And by Ginyu's ending, do you mean when he was turned into a frog and killed by kid buu?Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 01:51, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

By Ginyu's ending, I meant him being turned to a frog instead of being brutally annihilated like the rest of my top favorites. No, I hate Vegeta because he betrayed everyone, not just Zarbon. He betrayed and murdered Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui, Jeice, Burter, Recoome, Guldo, and his own comrade Nappa. He betrayed his master Frieza which automatically ticked me off and he treats saibamen like disposable commodities which annoyed me also. I love the villains who hold their comrades dear and are never disloyal to their own allies. I hate people like Vegeta who go about killing anyone just to get to their stupid desires. Android 17 betrayed Gero, the man who actually worked to make him stronger. If Vegeta's betrayal accounts for that of officer disobeying his master, then 17's is failed construct disobeying his creator. I hate them both for these actions. I also hate Fat Majin Buu for betraying Babidi and Dabura. Babidi tried so hard to bring him back and all he did was betray him along with the majestic Dabura. These actions annoyed me beyond end. I hate traitors of this caliber. I love the actual villains. The Frieza saga is ultimately my favorite due to the number of villains in it. Cell saga had the least number of characters I loved (just 19 and Gero). - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:54, September 5, 2011 (UTC) Ahh, so you hate the characters who betray the villains huh? yeah, now I understand. And Vegeta betraying Frieza ticked you off? I thought you didn't like Frieza if I remember correctly. And the part about killing allies, like Vegeta did, made you mad? I remember a part in the namek saga, where frieza soldiers were attacking the namekians, and a frieza soldier was cast off and it headed towards zarbon, and zarbon kicked him into the water. Do you remember that part? Do you hate Zarbon for it? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 02:05, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I wasn't clear. When the bad guys do it, I feel good. But when anti-heroes and good guys do it, it pisses me off because I love the bad guys strongly and I know the good guys would win in the end anyway. It's bad enough that they are surely going to lose, why add insult to the injury... anyway, my least favorites are those who betray the actual villains. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:28, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, sorry that it what I meant. When the anti heros or good guys do it. Sorry worded it wrong. And did you read my part about Zarbon kicking the un named Frieza soldier into the water? And also, if you get a chance, check out my talk on Commandar red's talk page. Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 02:45, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

I just told you, it's fine if the bad guys do that; that includes zarbon kicking the soldier. but when vegeta betrays his higher officials, it is extremely annoying. However, I love the fact that vegeta kills the characters I love in the best methods, because it makes me love them more. Their death scenes make them even better to me. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:05, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I think the early deaths such as the saiyan to frieza saga are the best in the series. They are classic compared to, for example, Cell's death, who was in a kamehamhame struggle for more than an episode. It just stupid to have that kind of drama. Did you like Dabura's death? (Being turned into a cookie) Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 01:28, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


Hello PrinceZarbon. Just been wondering, what is your favorite video game ever?

No First-Person Shooters, though. Those make me rech. GohanwavingkaiGOHAN sayanHappyGohan 3Jimmykiller9GohanNewPowersNamektalkGohaneatinganapplecontribHappyKidGohan 3 02:00, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

My favorite game is a fps though... wolfenstein 3d. I hate rpg games and sports games most of all. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:29, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hmph. Kidding, anyways, there's this user CammyDouglas9000 who is keeping up an edit war on a game that does not exist. I am trying to make him stop, but sadly, he is not learning. GohanwavingkaiGOHAN sayanHappyGohan 3Jimmykiller9GohanNewPowersNamektalkGohaneatinganapplecontribHappyKidGohan 3 02:31, September 5, 2011 (UTC)


You only like villians that die in a horrible way then why do you like Colonel Silver his death was never seen. --TambouineKuririnAddress.Ep.104ponds11 will break your neckTambourine5 1277395392 15:27, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

I like him, but not as much as the onscreen death villains, such as Blue, Black, Yellow, and White. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:15, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok. --TambouineKuririnAddress.Ep.104ponds11 will break your neckTambourine5 1277395392 18:49, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


Hi i would like to notify you that CammyDouglas9000 created a non-canon page call Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkachi 4 yet again. Vegito SSJ4The Legendary SSJ4 VegitoSSJ Future Gohan badass 15:37, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Dear Zarbon,

I'm SO sorry about that, (and I hope you believe me cause this is the TRUTH) my little sister was SUPPOSED to check on one of my blogs ,but she must've ran around here taking off the stuff. Her Mom gave a little "in check thing" LOL. But sorry for that problem. It won't happen again. (She also LOVES Vegeta just like me. She's a Vegeta follower.)

BYE AwesomeDJ2011 02:55, September 6, 2011 (UTC)AwesomeDJ2011AwesomeDJ2011 02:55, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dragon ball manga

Hi princezarbon im new so i wanted to ask you something can i post the link to the dragon ball manga in a forum so that the people can read it. Goku777 00:47, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

We don't have the entire manga available here, merely summaries of each episodic review and season guides; But yes, you can link from here, this is an encyclopedic resource. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:14, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

I posted the link in a forum please enjoy.--Goku777 23:07, September 9, 2011 (UTC)


Hello, since I seem to be in the mood of helping Admins with their avatars (already helped 10X Kamehameha and Nonoitall), I was wondering if you would like this picture that is already on the wiki. It's the same as your avatar, but bigger, so it looks better on your profile. Let me know what you think. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 02:56, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
Zarbon 2

It's full size here is 250, quite big enough to fit the square. I have this tumbnail set as 221.

It's the same exact image though...? I think I'm using that same file but scaled down. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:12, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but what I meant was that avatars looks better when filling the space by your User info. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 21:59, September 9, 2011 (UTC)


Hello PrinceZarbon. Can you handle with this anon?

Recoome, Burter, Jeice, and Guldo?

Hello, where are the user boxes for Recoome, Burter, Jeice, and Guldo? I did not see any... Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 23:54, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't know. All the available userboxes are here. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:23, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, that appears to be really strange. There are no user boxes for the names I mentioned. It is rather odd. I guess I cannot do anything about it. And to change subjects, I noticed on your favourite characters, you have "Gulp" in there as your 100th or something favourite character. I cannot believe it. You have played "Spyro Ripto's Rage"? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 04:11, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
Anyone who hasn't should. The Spyro games are quite awesome. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 17:42, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, Gulp is my favorite due to his first fight being my favorite in the spyro games. I loved how it was an arena battle instead of just a few scorches and the enemy is downed. Also, Gulp's battle theme is my favorite. I also like his comrade Crush, but Gulp's ultimately my most favorite in the Spyro games. I like Dr. Shemp in the first game, but Gulp topples all for me. Even the last fight has him in a cybernetic suit; the missile mounted shoulders are awesome as well. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:24, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
Wow, I cannot believe this. I officially worship you now. That game is my absoulte favourite. I love Gulp and Crush. They are by far on of my favourite characters. Do you know who the main villain is in Ripto's Rage? I kind of named my user name after him... And I love the games on the PlayStation. What do you think of the newer Spyro games? And why do you care for Gulp? Because he obeyed his master and fought until the end for him? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:39, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
Indeed. The very fact that Gulp and Crush remain loyal and battle to the end is reason enough for me to love them. Also, I choose preference based on the awesomeness of the actual battle and the musical bgm involved in each. About the newest games... I don't like them as much as the first five in the series. Basically, I don't like the whole story with Cynder and Malefor. It sort of bores me, considering they are just two more dragons versus the awesome villains of prior... such as Gnasty Gnorc and his minions, Ripto's crew, and the Sorceress along with her alliance. I thought that the new games were lacking in villains and they really sucked when it came to bgm, except for maybe one. I also thought Gaul was a rather downgrade of a villain, along with the basic design of Malefor. I preferred the original games by a long, long margin. Newer games doesn't necessarily mean better characters, better story, or better music. It just makes the graphics slightly better... but that's about it. Graphics are like... the least important thing to me, so yeah mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:53, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
I totally agree, I love the earlier games as well. I do not know how much you care for the Spyro series, but I love them to death. That is why my user name is Ripto22475. Ripto was the main villain in Ripto's Rage and I just took a liking to him. The way he is short and the fact he controls the territory he does, along with his two most loyal and strongest minions. The newer games do not have that good of a plot and characters, but since its still Spyro I play them here and there. But they do not compare to the first three. And I see you play a lot of videos games. The same goes for me. Ask me and I might of played it :). And I would love to have a quiz with you over Spyro (Preferbaly the first three), but again, I do not know how much you are addicted to it. What do you think of Ripto? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 21:03, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I am more of a henchman/follower lover. I do prefer the supporting villains to the main ones. Same goes for all fiction, including Dragon Ball and all other entertainment mediums (television, movies, games, books, etc.). I do like Ripto, but not as much as the minions throughout the series. I pretty much like a slew of supporting villains from the Spyro, Crash, Ratchet n' Clank, Jak n' Daxter, Sly, Ty, Scaler, etc. all games in this genre... (primarily known as platform games). However, my most favorite genre of games is FPS (First Person Shooters) as they have extremely compelling story lines and very vivid villains. I hate sports games, racing games, and rpg games. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:17, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I love first person shooters as well. Games where you can explore maps and meet characters, it is entirely entertaining. And I also noticed you like "Scorch" from the third Spyro game. If I remember correctly, he was that dragon like creature that could fly and was also a boss in one of the levels under the sorcerer command (Spyro Year of the Dragon). What was redeeming about him in particular? Because he was the last boss before you fought the sorcerer perhaps? And Crash... ahh what a wonderful game that was too. Supporting villains such as Tiny, N-Gin, and the other ones I cannot remember off hand. What kind of consoles do you own and play mostly? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 23:26, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. Scorch; for the reasons you stated... and because of his battle overall. I did also like Buzz (the frog-like boss, the first one in that same game). When it comes to the crash series, there's many I like, such as N Tropy, Dingodile, Tiny Tiger, etc. but N. Gin is ultimately my most favorite character in that series. My favorite consoles are those under sony; all the playstation systems. I do like the xbox systems also, but not as much. I absolutely hate the wii and its controls. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:18, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh yes Buzz. I remember having to charge at him to knock him in the lava and have Shiela (Forgot name) do a head butt on him. There were other bosses in there as well such as the creature that was grey and had a gun? He would shoot at you, I believe he was the second or third boss (Forgot his name). And I do care for the playstation games as well. Mainly the PS1 just because they have better games than the newer ones. As for Crash, indeed, the characters you mentioned are all very good villains. Not so much Tropy because I think he was his own main villain. I prefer to play Crash Bandicoot 3 Warped. That has all the villains you mentioned. That one is a very good plot and a series of adventure. And judging by that you do not like wii, I assume you haven't played the FPS Paper Mario the thousand year door? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 03:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for just kind of butting in here, but the Crash games are amazing. I'd say my favorite character would be.....oh, what's his name? The Polar his name Polar? Anyways, since you seem to be talking about Naughty Dog games, might I bring up the Jak and Daxter series? I think that it is definetely one of the best ND series out. The first Trilogy are the best games, imo. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 03:30, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
Lol, Ploar bear? Yes I think that is his name. Not sure of Jak and Daxter though. Have you've heard of Spyro jimmy? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 03:35, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, but of course! I haven't played them in a LONG time though. I still think the best game was the first, with saving all of the Dragons. Gnasty Gnork! Gotta love that guy! AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 03:38, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes the first was pretty good, but nothing compares to the second. In the first, Spyro was epic of course, but the controls kind of were lacking, and you could just run and jump. Which isn't bad, just limited. I still love it though, don't get me wrong. I remember paying the balloon guy to take me to new worlds for gems. have you've played the other two on PS1? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 03:46, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I have played Ripto's Rage, but sadly have not gotten the chance to play the third. Hopefully I can pick it up sometime at my local Vintage Game/Music/Movie store. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 14:35, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
PrinceZarbon did you read my reply to your last comment? And Jimmy thats sounds like a plan :D Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 18:56, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


Hey PZ. Can you archive my talk page again? I'd like this picture, but at full size please. Thanks! ^_^ AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 02:28, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
done. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:19, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


This guy named User:NOBER vandalized the Dabura page. --DARK 05:42, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:12, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


Can you archive my talk page with this picture please?
D B w i z a r d
20:11, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
Vegeta's big bang attack
done. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:19, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


Hello, what does archieve mean? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:28, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's a procedure where previous talk information is stored and the talk page of a user is cleared for more recent chat. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:18, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Do you know of how people have "Pictures" in their archives? For example, 10XKamehameha has Gohan reading a book for his archive. How would I get this on mine?

The mechanized Frieza, with his father, King Cold

Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 12:52, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
Easily. First, I'd have to archive your talk page... it's just that you need more chat on your talk page to archive as it serves that purpose. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:37, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, it seems I got the picture on my archive, but the problem now is that it is too small, and I do not want the words on the top of the picture. Is there some way you could possibley move it towards the right of the screen and make it bigger for me? Here is a link to my talk page. Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 17:13, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, sorry for all the messages, but I got it to the size I want. Now, I just need it to the right of the talk page. And there are some lettering on it I would like removed as well. It is around the image that says "Image" and "65px". Is there any way to remove those from my image? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 17:24, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

You seem to have formatted your page fine... if you can do that yourself, then you're all set. The numerics of 65px merely means the pixelation size of the image; you can't remove those as it would just re-format the image in the generic size. Image or File are simply extensions of the file you are trying to show on your page; so removing that would completely take out the image. You need those to make the image appear on your page. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:34, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, lol, I had a little help on that part, so I am good to go. Thanks for looking into it though. And on another note, how is your wikiapedia life? Busy? And any games you are currently playing? I heard you liked FEAR 3, correct? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 00:07, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think its about 31 pounds right now. Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:49, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

someone putted a porn photo

hey princezarbon a user name wowywow10 putted a porn photo in the photo gallery.--Goku777 01:30, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I've proceeded to remove this material. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:36, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Image unprotecting

Hello PrinceZarbon. I noticed this picture on Gohan's page, that has two quite noticable black lines on it. I have
Screenshotsdbztvspecial2 175
cropped out the lines, but I cannot upload the cropped version of this image, as it is protected, since you used it in the quotes archive. Is there any way you could unprotect it, so I can upload the much better, cropped version? NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 12:22, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
It can't be another version. It was used in that format, so it should stay as such in the archive. You may still upload another of that type using a different title. If I were to unprotect the image, it is grounds for deletion at any time. I need to keep them protected to avoid deletion. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:16, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I understand. Sorry for wasting your time. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 18:23, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I think its fine. You did not waste his time, you did not know. :) Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Special Gift

Hello PrinceZarbon, I went ahead and made some templetes for you. Which one do you like better? And what ever one you like, just switch to source and copy (I'm sure you already know). So here's a gift from me to you!

Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 22:45, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't think it's worth having templates for the character's form... it's the same character. We don't have separate templates for Frieza form 1, 2, 3, 4 and Cell form 1, 2, and 3... so this kind of doesn't meet a purpose. Sorry mate. I look at Zarbon as one character, not two. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:18, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh okay, well there there if you want them. And actually, cell, does have his three forms. They are under imperfect, semi perfect and perfect. Just thought I would help you :( --Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 23:46, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate it, mate. I just think we need one for each character, really. There's lots of characters that don't even have the templates... like Lord Slug's men... or Cooler's men... Red Ribbon army members, etc. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:55, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
It's fine, and you are right, there are no Lord Slug's men and Red Ribbion army people, but I thought you liked Zarbon monster form too. Just like his base huh? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:44, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
Not true. I love his beast form, I don't refer to it as "monster form" though... it has no official reference (some games refer to it as beast, others as monster, and some as demon... or even second form. Either way, it's one character, not a separate character, so I love Zarbon overall, both forms, that's why I see no purpose in having separate ones for the same character. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:06, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, there is no official name for it, but I thought monster since that is the most popular. One game also has it listed at "Post-Transformation". Which name do you call it by? Beast? Monster? Post-Transformation? And since we are on the topic of Zarbon, why is it exactly he is your favourite in the whole animated series? Do you have action figures of him because they sell them on ebay if you want a figure of him. Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 21:51, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

He is my favorite character for various reasons. I've stated it prior in previous archives. He will remain as such... he's elegant yet deadly... the beauty who hides a dormant beast. Also, the very essence of his battles against Vegeta are brilliant (he topples Vegeta with ease the first time around; rendering the scene my most favorite fight scene in the series; and the bgm matches best in the instant of his transformation; he has the best execution scene, extremely brutal and satisfying... there's far too many reasons why he's my favorite. And yes, I do have almost all the collectibles related to him; I made a checklist of all related material and there's 42 figurines made of him. I have 39 of them. I am missing very few. I have also collected all things related to my other 2 favorites, Dodoria and Cui. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:11, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I guess Zarbon's fight is pretty epic (The earlier ones are). I own a few dragonBall figures as well. I collect the gashapon figures. Just because they are better quality and they look more realistic. Here is my Zarbon one. Do you have this one? Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:38, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, dear comrade. I have quite a few of that same one. I buy a large number of the same ones (duplicates) to have lots. I am missing just a few figures... if you would like, I may show you my collection... and the ones I'm missing. Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:58, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
Sure, that would be fine if it is fine with you. Let me see if I can get mine up too. I have the gashapon series, with characters such as Frieza (All Forms), Ginyu Force (All members), Zarbon (Base only), Dodoria, Qui, Nappa, Vegeta, Saibamen (Six total), Raditz, and a bunch of others. I really want the King Cold figure, but for some reason its marked as 47 pounds. How much do you spend on yours? I think I have about 63 pounds into my collection currently. Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 23:57, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I had a complete collection of those gashapon figures from series 1 through 20-something... but I sold them all because I only want my top favorite characters. I don't want the rest, especially no hero characters. I'll try to find my collection photos and upload them for reference the next chance I get. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:11, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, that sounds great PrinceZarbon. I'll wait until you are able to upload it, and I'll try to get mine up if you are interested. Kingcold6ColdSon&FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 16:32, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

The following are basically my prized possessions... the numbers that are encoded in red are the ones I am missing or in need of, these are the only known figures of each character out there... and the only characters I want everything of... my Zarbon collection, Dodoria collection, and Cui collection - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:16, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, nice collection dude! i got fifteen figures myself, my most prized one is this my Medicom Piccolo. Is 5 dollar a good price for three gashapon figures? Cui, Dodoria and Zarbon? how much did you pay for those three? the ones where Zarbon and Dodoria hold dragonballs and Cui doesn't. Btw are you aware that the Zarbon no. 28 and Dodoria no. 8 figurines are also available in gold? Keep collecting dude! NappaAndVegetaVsZFightersK.Raditz(Kai)True SaiyanNappa01EliteBardockWarriorsRaditz1 09:37, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are they gold or are they silver/gray... I may have them also. I'm still positive I am missing the last few of each aforementioned section. I need them but cannot locate them, especially not the Zarbon prototype #42 and model kit #39. I need those greatly... they are extremely hard to come by and rather old; they were produced a long time ago. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:23, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, i cannot help you with that, however i can give you the link to the gold ones, here it is: I myself am in possesion of the Gold Nappa, Goku and Raditz. The Zarbon and Dodoria figures of this set are pretty hard to obtain. NappaAndVegetaVsZFightersK.Raditz(Kai)True SaiyanNappa01EliteBardockWarriorsRaditz1 20:37, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
I seriously think I have those already; I just didn't add them to the montage... If you EVER come across the ones I mentioned though, let me know as I will be fast to pick them up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:40, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
Sure thing bro, i'll just add your link to favourites to compare if i ever come across Zarbon figures, and if i see any new ones i'll just report them to you. See yah. NappaAndVegetaVsZFightersK.Raditz(Kai)True SaiyanNappa01EliteBardockWarriorsRaditz1 20:53, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pic you would like

Hey Prince

I found this pic and i thought that you would like it, you have probably already seen it before but i thought i would show you incase you havent already. I thought you would like it because you are a fan of villians and i am pretty sure these three are your favorites. Hope you like it :)

Cui, Zarbon and Dodoria

Hey, thanks. Those are indeed my top 3 favorite characters in the entire series run. They seem to be gameshots placed into a collage, nice. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:23, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


Hello PrinceZarbon, I've seen that you've archived many talk pages, could you do mine as well?
DB Multiverse main picture
If you want to do it, could you use this picture? Goodbye and take care. Dr. Kochin madYou can't defeat me!Bio-man!Nor my creations!Roshi vs Bio-warriors 2 17:17, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
This shouldn't be a problem. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:42, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
Thank You! NappaAndVegetaVsZFightersK.Raditz(Kai)True SaiyanNappa01EliteBardockWarriorsRaditz1 09:03, September 22, 2011 (UTC)


Hey PrinceZarbon. How are you doing? Anyway, I wanted to ask, do you have a prefered version of your favorite characters (Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui)? Say, do you like them more in the Ocean, Funimation, or Japanese dub, or DBZK dub? NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 19:42, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. My favorite is definitely the Japanese version as it is the closest to the original idea. I hate the Dragon Ball Kai version overall because it cuts out most of the brutal scenes and most of the best moments; as well as the fact that I hate the music in Dragon Ball Kai. My favorite voices, as well as my favorite background music (composed by Shunsuke Kikuchi) are all in the original Japanese. I didn't like the Funimation dub or the Ocean dub nearly as much as the Japanese, but I prefer the Funimation dvd releases to the Ocean because the music was horrid in the Ocean dub. I still feel the worst overall is the Funimation television version; the version that included Bruce Faulconer's music (I hated most of the music by Faulconer except for a very minor few like "Pikkon's Theme" and Android 19's "Electronic Circus")... while in the Japanese dub, I loved a ton, and I mean, a ton of music (especially "Kyoufu no Ginyu Tokusentai" [which plays when Zarbon transforms and pounds Vegeta], "Dai Nijuuikkai Tenka-Ichi Budokai" [which plays when General Blue executes the electric eel], and "Tenka Wakeme No Chou-Kessen" [which plays when Recoome unleashes his relentless blasts against Gohan]) These, amongst others, are ultimately the deciding factor for me. Also... on another note, I hate, and I mean, strongly hate the attack titles in English version... for example: Mercenary Tao's "Dodonpa!" sounds MUCH better to me than "Dodon-ray". Dodon-ray just sounds stupid to me. Basically, I prefer the Japanese version when it comes to music, attack sounds, and overall feel. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:09, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
Awesome, it's nice to see another person who likes the Japanese dub, as that dub is my favourite by far too. How the characters spoke thier lines I prefered, and emotion. Plus, some of the translations are stupid (Kuririn being changed to Krillin). It kind of ruins the pun in his name, same with Jheese/Jeice. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 20:15, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
I agree about that as well. However, what ticked me off the most was the music being altered to begin with. I really hate the English dub music for the most part. It's neither climactic nor orchestral. It just sounds like techno junk half the time. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:17, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, the music can effect your viewing experience. Music makes scenes more tence, or emotional, so if some horrible music is playing in the background, it can ruin the mood. I really like the new quote you just put! General Blue is awesome. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 18:59, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, General Blue is my favorite in all Dragon Ball when not counting Z/GT. When counting both Z/GT, Zarbon takes the cake for me. But, General Blue deserves more attention, so yeah... btw, he's in 14 consecutive episodes, just like Zarbon. They appear in the most amount of canon onscreen episodes in order... most other villains appear less (the ginyu force altogether is in less than 13 in consecutive order. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:09, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
I did not know that, that's quite interesting. Yeah, I liked General Blue the moment he ordered the exacution of the soldier picking his nose, and he was just cool all around. I wish he had a better death, Tao's tongue thing was awesome, but I wish Blue died a different way, like blowing up or something. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 19:14, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
I liked Blue's death; I felt it was the most powerful and climactic in Dragon Ball and the music matched it well. Actually, I liked most of the deaths in Dragon Ball except for Purple (getting that stupid bomb thrown on him at random) or Silver (not seeing what happened offscreen; that really pissed me off)... But for me, Blue had the best death, closely followed by Drum... and General White. My least favorite ends in Z are those of Dabura, Captain Ginyu, Cell, and Buu... those just plain sucked to me... especially Ginyu for a non-death. I hated Cell's death scene most of all because it bored me to death. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:19, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
I'm surprised, I thought you would hate his death by tongue. My favorite death in DB was King Piccolo's. A hole in the stomach must hurt, lol. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 19:24, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
I felt neutral about King Piccolo because he was a primary villain... but his death was alright... I still preferred the other deaths... especially Drum's. I loved the way Goku just slammed into his face and his eyes and brains came out as he fell to the ground; I hate dragged-on deaths. I love ones that are quick and over swiftly and in a more memorable fashion. For example, my overall least favorite deaths are those of Cell and Kid Buu... followed by Dabura. Those annoyed me most of all. My favorite death scenes are Zarbon, Frieza, and Jeice... and a few others... but those are likely the most bone-cracking, and spine-breaking. I like those the best. I hate the blast versus blast drag-on type stuff. On another note, I was wondering... what are your favorite fights in DB... mine are General Blue v. Goku and Krillin, Sky Dragon slapping Goku around, Shula smacking into Goku, Drum v. Tien, and Nam v. Goku. I actually found the Piccolo fights to be the most basic in Dragon Ball. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:11, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
My favorite fights would have to be.....I love most of them, but Nam vs. Goku, Jackie Chun Vs. Goku, Shula vs. Goku, General Blue vs. Goku and Kuririn, Drum vs. Tien, Tien Vs. Goku. Not in any order. I agree, with villains dying in a brutal manner is mostly awesome, a punishment for thier own brutal deeds. My least favorite or most boring deaths are Cell's, Dodoria's (Felt he should have been punched around like Zarbon), and Super 17's. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 20:17, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
You prefer Buu's lame death to the quick roastings? I prefer when they're quickly taken out no matter how as long as it doesn't last long for them to die... I hate dragged on deaths. The most dragged on were Cell and Kid Buu. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:30, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
I liked Cell's death personally. I really enjoyed the music that came along with it. "The End of Cell," was it? AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 20:32, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
@ PrinceZarbon, Nah, I did not really enjoy Buu's death, but I do not hate it like Cell's, because it was Goku killing a main villian once again, but it was kind of dull. The beam struggle against Gohan and Cell was really boring, even in the manga. @Jimmykiller9, I felt that music did not really fit, I think I may be one of the few who dosen't like Bruce Faulcnour music, and likes Dodoria (Although PrinceZarbon is the same). I feel Dodoria is awesome, but loads of people hate him because he is "Ugly". NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 20:38, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
Well, I actually prefer Japanese music to Faulconer as well, even though I do love a few of his pieces. And as for Dodoria, I like the character, but I prefer the manga version as I dislke both the Japanese and FUNimation voices. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 20:41, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
Honestly, I can care less about the voices... I'd rather judge the character overall and the mannerism... as well as the story attached to them; what they do; how they look, and what happens to them; and how they die. I really loved the Frieza saga characters; all of them, but I strongly hated most of the Cell saga minus the likes of Android 19 and Dr. Gero. As for the voices, look at General Blue, his voice wasn't really amazing in the Japanese version, but his character rox overall. Voices are probably the least important thing because loads of countries voice the show and none of it turns out perfect, but the music is extremely integral; and the English version music is just bollocks compared to Japanese. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
Well put, PZ. However, I care about the voices as I am an aspiring young actor/voice actor, so it bugs me if the voice doesn't represent the character. And yah, the Frieza Saga is definetly my favorite, it's the only saga where you can classify me as a Vegeta fan. But, first and foremost, the Ginyu Force is tops in that saga. And to be honest, I don't really like Android 19, I felt that they could've replaced him with a much better character. The music is indeed important; I feel that I am the only one who likes Kai music the most. Too bad the pieces were plagerized, I was about to demand they award the composer. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 01:55, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

The Kai music didn't match the series well for me... I felt closely to the Shunsuke Kikuchi compositions in the Japanese dub. I still felt that music plays a tremendous role in feeling the emotion behind the scenes... and although I wasn't fond of the Kai music, I wasn't very fond of the Faulconer music either. I felt the most emotion from Kikuchi's original orchestral compositions. They completely gave life and matched the exact climax moments in the series. It is integral that sparks fly with the music instantaneously when a character pulls off a distinct signature move or makes a sudden movement/twitch... the Japanese music did this precisely and with deadly precision. On the matter of 19, I felt his fight was the best thing about all of the Cell saga as most of the rest of it just plain bored me... I absolutely hated 17 and 18... found them to be an utter useless waste of time (and they looked boring as heck)... as well as the fact that I absolutely detested their role of malfunctioning traitors (likely my least favorite characters in the entire series run). 19's fight completely filled me with joy (especially seeing that rotten Goku getting pounded when inflicted with the virus... and 19 enjoying the deadly tight grip as he tried to suck his life out of him... the sheer brutality and pleasure made for a great fight scene; especially when Vegeta showed up and handed 19's own behind to him. That was Just. Plain. Awesome. And what happened to 17 and 18... nothing... they just got absorbed into Cell's more boring construct, like he wasn't already boring... he became even more boring... spouting "perfect this", and "Perfection that"... and "look at me, I'm perfect..." but all he really was, was just plain boring the entire time. I found that entire Cell debacle to be the absolutely worst moment in the entire series; I actually enjoyed the useless filler material more than Cell's canon battle. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

How do you all feel about the opening theme? I myself, am really bored watching the opening theme in English all the time. Just now I checked in the setup and listened the original Japanese music. The Japanese opening is much better, it really sends shivers all over my back haha! Nappa01True EliteBardockWarriorsRaditz1 09:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's better, although I love the bgm most of all. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, "Rock the Dragon" is completely LAME. "Cha-La Head Cha-La" is superior in just about every way. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 15:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I really expected you guys to feel the same way. Btw, which episode is (are) your favorite(s)? I just found out mine: Picking Up the Pieces, and why? Yajirobe gets the truth told right in his face, so he knows how other people feel about his cowardliness, and mostly because of the sad music, the flashbacks, and the manner on how everyone acts. All of the sadness is just something we rarely get to see in Dragon Ball Z. It's not like any other, that's why i like it so much. - Nappa01True EliteBardockWarriorsRaditz1 15:22, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I have too many favorite episodes... but my favorites deal with the most brutal fight scenes matching the music perfectly... in respective order...

  1. Zarbon's Surprise - Zarbon transforms and pounds the life out of Vegeta with relentless brutality.
  2. Let the Battle Begin - Recoome pummels Gohan using his bomber in a nonstop fashion.
  3. The Trap is Sprung - General Blue executes the electric eel with deadly precision.
  4. Recoome Unleashed - Recoome pummels Vegeta and Krillin with ease.
  5. Blue, Black and Blue - General Blue pumps up when facing Goku, and whoops him around after paralyzing him.
  6. Gohan, the Hunted - Zarbon battles Vegeta a second time; Vegeta rams his fist clean through his stomach.
  7. Videl is Crushed - Videl gets butchered in the tournament by Spopovich's ever-awesome combos.
  8. A Dark and Secret Power -Videl's systematic slaughter at the hands of Spopovich begins.
  9. The Notorious Mercenary - Tao executes General Blue swiftly... "Now that playtime is over, show me my real target"
  10. The Hunted - Dodoria butchers the Namekians in brutal fashion, all awesomeness... and snaps Moori's neck.
  11. Upgrade to Super Saiyan - Vegeta pummels Android 19 after intervening in Goku's scuffle.
  12. The Secret of Dr. Gero - Android 19 gets eradicated by Vegeta's ruthless onslaught.
  13. Another Super Saiyan? - Frieza gets sliced in awesome fashion.
  14. Vegeta Attacks - Vegeta mutilates Pui Pui with ruthless nonstop awesomeness.
  15. The Prince Fights Back - Vegeta butchers Dodoria after the secret of his planet's destruction is revealed to him.
  16. Frieza Strikes! - Cui is executed by Vegeta.
  17. Battle Cry - Drum fights Tien in brilliant fashion; and Goku takes him out in a single hit, knocking out his eyes.
  18. Piccolo's Decision - Piccolo's final decision to share the fate of planet Earth; a brilliant and tragic ending.
  19. Nimbus Speed - Nappa eradicates Piccolo in front of Gohan. One of the most climactic and saddest scenes.
  20. Final Atonement - Vegeta's sacrifice against Buu is awesomeness.
  21. The Power of Nappa - Nappa's relentless onslaught against Earth's fighters... oof when he punches off Tien's arm.
  22. Sacrifice - Chiaotzu's sad sacrifice against Nappa was awesome.
  23. Lesson Number One - Nappa gets executed after his valiant efforts.
  24. The Fall of Muscle Tower - General White is executed by malfunctioning Android 8.
  25. Gohan, Defeat Your Dad! - Jeice gets butchered exquisitely by Vegeta's bone-cracking maneuvers.
  26. Goku vs. Sky Dragon - Awesome fight sequence by Sky Dragon; his movement is extremely brilliant.
  27. A Dangerous Union - All the awesome villains of the past return for this awesome cameo-riddled episode.
  28. The One-Star Dragon - Eis blinds Goku and gets butchered for his treachery; awesomeness.
  29. The Monster is Coming - Piccolo owns 17's rotten carcass.
  30. He's Here - Piccolo continues to own 17's rotten carcass.

That's just off the top of my head... but the first ten is in exact order for me. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:04, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

That's a lot, lol here comes SaiyanElite with one episode. For me are No. 3, 5, 7 and definitely 17 favorites as well. - Nappa01True SaiyanEOB 01WarriorsRaditz1 18:14, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Quite a list you got there, Z. Yah, those episodes are all awesome, I would have to say Upgrade to Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 3?! would be my favorite two. I love how in Super Saiyan 3?! both the transformation and Goku beating the crap out of Buu. I really found Fat Buu annoying, so it was nice to see him getting pummled. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 19:54, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, so you felt about Fat Buu as severely as I did against Vegeta and 17... I really hate those characters... but I hate characters for their actions, not so much for how annoying they are; Fat Buu is on my top 10 least favorite characters also, but because he betrays Babidi and Dabura, not 'cause he's annoying. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:53, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
Wow i feel the same way, my absolute most hated character is Vegeta above anyone else, because he killed almost everyone I favor. And the Saibamen, for killing Yamcha. Yajirobe a bit for letting down his friends. Puar, because it's just some cat with no major use in the series. Turles because he's the worst villain ever, Buu too, all forms. He's just so annoying always repeating his name, it isn't Pokémon ok!? it's DBZ! lol. And the last ones I can think of are Babibi and Supreme Kai, SK is very annoying because he talks to much and tries to interfere all the time. Babibi because he's a major coward who just controls others and does nothing himself. - Nappa01True SaiyanEOB 01WarriorsRaditz1 21:11, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
Well, I didn't like Dabura for some strange reason. As for Babidi, I was actually kind of sad when he was killed, his personality made me laugh. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 21:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I myself love all actual villains in the series. The ones that start out evil and die evil. The only exception for me is Cell... he just plain sucked for me. I loved every single supporting villain in the series from Shula... to Sky Dragon... to Eis Shenron... to Dr. Myuu... like I said, Cell is the only actual antagonist I disliked. And my least favorite characters are the traitorous scum like 17 and Vegeta who betray those who are actual villains. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

You even like Broly? AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 22:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I should have been more specific. When I said all the villains, I meant all the canon villains in the series. My top least favorite characters comprise of the following:

  1. Vegeta - a$%head who betrays his lord and master, as well as his comrades and elites; and goes against his orders; all traitors must be executed; summarily shot under the military chain of command.
  2. Android 17 - idiotic malfunctioning brat loser; hate this jerk so much, sometimes I feel like pushing it to number one; the fact that he betrays his creator Dr. Gero ticked me off... and the disgusting attitude and the way he went about it annoyed me far too much... I can't believe I rooted for a hero character (in this case, Piccolo) to hand him his own buttocks. But this is a very rare occasion.
  3. Cell - moronic creation and overall failure; since when does making a random "tournament" to challenge one's skills qualify as "evil", it's just competitive... what a lame saga and a lame ending to a lame character who wasted time onscreen.
  4. Majin Buu (Fat) - whiny and infantile jerk bas%&%rd who betrays the likes of Dabura and Babidi. Such a stupid concept... and the fact that it reminds me of a doofus pokemon thing... by calling out its retarded name.
  5. Nuova Shenron - big-time traitorous jerk who betrays his own brother Eis Shenron just to have that whole honor bit achieved with Goku... since when does corresponding to honor account for betraying your own brethren... scum like this is what ticks me off most of all. Especially the kind that helps the heroes progress.
  6. Pan - far too annoying to handle; I believe this character's presence was the complete reason as to why GT failed and had to be stopped after a mere 64 episodes.
  7. Broly - idiotic character who appears randomly and is supposed to be "uber-powerful" without any sustained back-story... Goku made him cry? Give me a break... he's just an idiotic moron who spouts a one-word phrase over and over and makes Spopovich seem like a genius college graduate with a degree in physics.
  8. Gotenks - a stupid pompous combination of two already stupid characters. I honestly do not like the entire concept and idea behind "fusion", but that's me. I hate fusing two pre-existing characters to make another; which turns out to have a more dumber and jerk-like attitude.
  9. Kid Trunks - little upstart brat with a very self-loving attitude and extremely pompous; I really hate the child characters who act like this.
  10. Kid Goten - for the same reasons as Kid Trunks... they suck so bad and are so annoying to stare at when they pee here and there randomly and achieve nothing crucial but bickering and whining... so annoying; they are to Z what Pan is to GT.
  11. Vegito - another random uber-powerful combo of two pre-existing characters whom I certainly don't love. And to think that someone like this has a fanbase with his one and a half episode appearance... and it's accomplishments being... well... getting turned into a candy... so damn annoying.
  12. Android 18 - another pompous jerk along with that useless 17... The way the character went about showing herself off and acting like nothing is wrong... or just acting calm and pissing me off with that attitude by thinking she's too good. I actually wanted Vegeta to own her and lay down the law, and I'm a villain fan...
  13. Gogeta - another useless concept of a fusion... I really don't like fusions, especially when they're randomly supposed be this strong for no reason.
  14. Arale - moronic little girl who is supposed to be stronger than actually powerful villains in Dragon Ball...? What the heck... she should have stayed in Dr. Slump-ville where she belonged and just went and got some metal to chew on in Penguin Village; we certainly didn't need her childish presence in Dragon Ball...
  15. Trunks - jerk Saiyan scumbag who is supposed to appear and be stronger than all the Super Saiyans of the past...? what the heck was this concept of eliminating Frieza in one fell swoop when the guy lasted 90 episodes of extreme deadly power and having an enormous battle clash against all the heroes. I really hated his attitude too... oh a savior from the future who has come to make things better... and he's supposed to be this young teenage heart-throb... moronic concept.
  16. Janemba - stupid ripoff of Buu's prior concept... well... all the movie villains are a ripoff of the series villains (who are actually good in comparison to the movie villains)... but this one was just way too stupid... like Buu wasn't bad enough, there had to be another moron to join the circus.
  17. Pikkon - idiotic filler character who is supposed to be able to topple all the villains it took like 150 episodes to take down... what a useless character... unbelievable how foolish of a concept this character constitutes.

Well, that's just off the top of my head... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:26, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, you really let yourself go huh? Yeah, like i said before i mostly feel the same about this, especially Vegeta and Majin Buu. Really hope Vegeta dies. I was totally disappointed when Krillin let him go. And Pikkon is a cool character, the creators only shouldn't have made him own all of the villains with one punch. That really confused me back in the day, Pikkon defeats Cell with a single blow, and Goku, who wasn't even strong enough to beat him, later wins from Pikkon... Wtf? - Nappa01True SaiyanEOB 01WarriorsRaditz1 10:26, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

That's because Pikkon was filler. They never stop to think when making filler or non-canon characters, they just create them and make them "gary-stues" or "mary-sues"... which means that they'll just be uber-powerful for no reason and be able to topple everyone else. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:07, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oh God, I HATE PAN! Whiny little B*tch, she made me hate GT Gohan and Videl for having her! Why the HFIL does every series find that they HAVE to include such an annoying character? GOD!!!! AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 20:16, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's because they feel they have to appeal to the masses... which in this case means the inclusion of little children characters; for whom I have a great distaste towards. The only child character who didn't suck was likely Gohan, but that's just because he wasn't as annoying and b*&c^y. The relationship between Piccolo and Gohan placed them in a situation of survival... and forced him to learn to be a man, and fast. In the case of someone like Pan, all we see is a stupid little girl being annoying and whiny and yelling out for "grampa" constantly. I strongly feel that this stupid character was the reason why GT's ratings and overall eventual ending was brought quicker. If only Pan had not been included, the series may have had more redeeming qualities. Pan is the archetype character that people continue to hate strongly and viciously... she's the ultimate annoyance of the series. I'd give a close second to little Trunks and little Goten for grabbing screen time where we didn't need them to... especially in the case of seeing them peeing here or whining there... I didn't enjoy that much either. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:34, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I didn't mind the little twerps all that much (Goten's innocence made me laugh). And yah, I agree that big animation companies seem to think that having an annoying-little-kid character is crucial to a TV Show's success. And while I don't think Pan is the only reason (Super 17 Saga's unoriginality, anyone?) that GT failed, it's a pretty big part of it. GT did bring some cool things (Super Saiyan Four and 10X Kamehameha come to mind), but is HUEGLY overshadowed by its predeccesors. I think GT would be good as its own anime and have nothing to do with Dragon Ball. I think it is hated by so many because it had MASSIVE expectations to live up to, and sadly could not meet very many. AVatarZane ..... talk ..... contrib. 22:57, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the only redeeming episodes of GT for me were Piccolo's Decision (because of the extreme overwhelming emotion involved here) and A Dangerous Union (solely because all the villains of past made cameo appearances)... I didn't even care much about Super 17 and the main villains really; they weren't strong concepts either way. I still personally found the Cell Games to be my least favorite saga out of all the sagas including GT and original DB... I actually hated the Cell Games more than all the filler material and the movie universe combined. The only redeeming factor of the Cell Games to me was Caroni and Pirozshki and that says a lot; I hate when all attention goes to one single villain instead of a huge roster of bad guys; that's what made the rest of the sagas enormously better to me. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:48, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia sections

Hello PZ, i have read your small discussion with 10X, over look-alikes in Triva. On Tapion's page it says he bears a extemely huge resemblance to Link from the Loz series, both in looks as in deeds (Time-travel, comes from ancient time). Should this info be removed? - Nappa01True EliteBardockWarriorsRaditz1 08:40, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Possibly; I believe all such information belongs in the talk pages, not the articles themselves... as that sort of information doesn't coincide for official material; and we want official material on the articles, not assumptions. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:15, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


Cool, one of my pics managed to get into one of the quotes, cool. Anyway, Hello PrinceZarbon once again. Just wanted to say, our last conversation I really enjoyed, it was intelligent and interesting. Can I ask, are you a fan of ironic things in a character? Say, a villain who loves to decapitate people, get's decapitated himself? NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 20:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you read my mind. I love irony; it's a close second for me to the feeling of morality. Genuinely, I love a character to meet a grisly fate, but that just closes it even better. For example, my favorite character in "Road to Perdition" (Connor Rooney) kills the main character's child and wife while they are in the bathroom... and he himself gets the exquisite death of getting shot in the bathtub while in the bathroom [I love that death scene, and the overall method of execution]. My favorite character in the Sopranos is Brendan Filone; he hijacks trucks and goes against orders... only to get shot in the eye while in the bathtub (and when the hitman executes him, he says "Hi Jack, Bye Jack!" which ironically means... "hijack"... you go bye, bye... get it? 'cause he hijacked the trucks. To answer you, yes I love irony and especially when it is intertwined with epic death scenes; nothin' beats a bathtub execution for me, though. That's my favorite form of death scene. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:27, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
Ah, that's awesome, I love things like that in a character. Lol, that death scene for Connor Rooney sounds awesome. Yeah, I have always liked a fact when a villain loves a certain way to torture/kill his victims/enemies, and then dies in that same way, or a similar fashion. :D NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 21:33, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

As Maximilien Robespierre was guillotined in real life after having so many beheaded; makes him all the more cooler, ay? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:43, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it sort of fits into real life, but it's more for fictional characters for me. I am however, actually quite interested in several figures from history, also people who helped out main tyrants and rulers, such as Heinrich Himmler (Who reminds me of Captain Dark), and others. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 21:48, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, he completely reminds me of a fat version of Himmler as General Blue reminds me of some other nazi elites as well. They are my favorites because of the disciplined mannerism also. I love those characters; the Third Reich era elites make up all my favorites in war-related material; especially the likes of Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler, Josef Goebbels, Reinhard Heydrich, Martin Bormann, and many others... I also like the Italian elites like Benito Mussolini and his comrades along with the Japanese Imperial forces... including Yamamoto, Hideki Tojo, and Emperor Hirohito; there's lots of 'em I like... from past history, namely Caligula, Genghis Khan, Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte; these are all tyrant-like rulers and pretty much transfer well as characters in the fictional plane; which is why there's so much trivia attached to them; I myself like them all... I'd have to say the Third Reich elites are ultimately my favorites overall though; namely Kaltenbrunner with his awesome near 7 foot stature, facial structure, duelling scars, and overall rank as chief of the police force right under Himmler. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:54, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


Look here this user has been threating to destroy the wiki. While the user "THISWIKIBLOWS" has been changing the names of many pages,vanadalizing them and making his own pages. That happen to be completely inappropiate. With names like" Colonel A** hole" and so on.

I've deleted these articles prior; I will deal with this nuisance asap. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:27, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


What do you think of categories like "Video Games where <insert name> is playable" I notice that Dragon Ball Z: Ultimate Tenkaichi has a whole paragraph full of categories. Mr.popoSSJ4 Vegito Is A Secret SpyKrillinglasses 23:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

As do many of the other game articles; It's fine, the purpose is to portray which games each character is in through categories. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


Apparently someone named User:Vegito123 (I'm guessing he has a bunch of accounts, considering there's Vegito1,1234,12345, etc.) is vandalizing the Videl and Zangya articles. --DARK 01:01, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see Vegito123 having any contributions in regards to or corresponding with the act of vandalism. But I'll check the Vegito1, 1234, and 12345 to see the contributions of these names. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:51, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
I believe he meant to say Supervegito 23. Mr.popoSSJ4 Vegito Is A Secret SpyKrillinglasses 02:56, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I've temp blocked 'im. Lemme know if it continues and link me their username again just in case; I'll block all the connected profiles; if such activity continues, I'll be forced to perm block in the future. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:32, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of it. Mr.popoSSJ4 Vegito Is A Secret SpyKrillinglasses 03:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


Hello PrinceZarbon. Could you please check out this blog please, thank you. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 23:35, September 30, 2011 (UTC)


Hi prince, thanks for your message. I do have a question actually. On the Ultimate Tenkaichi I am trying to add gogeta and vegito to the playable characters. Proof for super saiyan gogeta:

and proof for vegito: (doesn't actually show vegito playing but if you look at the created characters fighting style it is vegito type.)

But someone keeps taking down my edits. I would appreciate it if you could put them in for me. Plus I don't know if I should put them as their own characters (which it seems they are) Or under Goku and Vegetas transformations.

I'm uncertain as to why; if the characters truly are confirmed, but there may be a discrepancy in terms of their appearance; I haven't followed the newest game release roster as vividly, but I'd say that it's unnecessary to revert edits or become engaged in an edit war, please just let the article ride itself through; if what you say is true about the appearance of those characters in-game, then you shouldn't worry because they will most definitely be added to the confirmed list on an eventual basis. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:26, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Z Quote of the Day

Hello, I just had a general question about the "Z Quote of the Day". I am sorry, I do not mean to come off as rude, if I do, I am sorry, I don't mean it like that, but, how come the Z quote of the day is really long? Like a paragraph to read through. I remember the quotes that were nice and short to read like "What's a Goku?" (By King Cold, my favourite by the way), or "Tutti Frutti" (By Niki). It's just I like the quotes you have, its just its really long to read, and as for me, I like quick Z quotes so I can continue with my day instead of reading a book. I don't know what other users think, but that is just my opinion on it. So sorry, nothing personal on it. Thanks. Kingcold6ColdSon&amp;FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 20:46, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Some are long and some are short. I don't break quotes down; if they last about a paragraph, then I will submit them as such; some people like the long ones, others like the short ones; both are fine as long as they are exactly as quoted in the series. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:29, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, thats fine and all, but its just a "quote" is a breif saying, maybe lasting a sentence. Two sentences would be pushing it, but still acceptable. A lot of the "quotes" that are up (Currently for example) are like an article, rather than a saying. Maybe it would be better if it was called "Z Passage" of the day. Or something like that. Kingcold6ColdSon&amp;FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 01:51, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but you're wrong about that because what you're referring to is a "quip" more than a quote. Quips are exceptionally short and normally don't have much meaning attached to them. Quotes, on the other hand, have lots of meaning through a lengthy phrase. Hence, for example, there's perfect resources for quotations that are actually longer than what you said. I myself prefer quotes to random quips, as they hold greater meaning through phrases. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:29, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I really like this long quote. It shows King Piccolo's twisted and evil personality without having to watch a single episode. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 07:43, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, that is the purpose as King Piccolo's wickedness makes him better. There's a slew more where this came from mate. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:55, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yay, I like quotes like that, that reflect a little of their personality in it. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 18:05, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yes that is true. I am not saying "Change it", I was just leaving my opinion on it. There is nothing wrong with it, no, but it just takes a lot to read. And the plus side with the long ones, is that it does reflect upon their personalities. How do you pick out the "quotes"? Do you come up with them, or do users leave suggestions behind for you to look at? 20:36, October 2, 2011 (UTC)Kingcold6ColdSon&amp;FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword
I do take suggestions, but I haven't had that many; I've already compiled most as it is, it's just going to take me some time to expunge them all through time; I do select all the actual quotes that have meaning over those that don't, such as "it's over 9000", is just a meme thing, but holds no actual significant meaning... that's about it. They have to merit some form of meaning on a stand-alone basis. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:57, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, that sounds great, where can I leave my suggestions? Do you have a link? Kingcold6ColdSon&amp;FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 21:16, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you may find prior suggestions at the talk page for the featured quotes. That would be the best place to make suggestions; I'd approve of some and deny others, but that's likely the best place to put them. Thanks, again. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:01, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I left a suggestion, but it seems someone deleted it. Did you delete it? It's gone. Kingcold6ColdSon&amp;FatherRipto22475KingColdNVKingColdHoldingTrunksSword 21:25, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Piccolo quaterplicate images

Could this image be delete File:PiccoloImage.jpeg, there is at least 4 images similar to it. Jeangabin666 19:05, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

No, because that image is in use on the qotd archived. If you find an image that is protected by me, then it is in use on some form or level, even if it's a duplication of others. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:00, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Request

Can you delete the Vi as it is fan material. Mr.popoSSJ4 Vegito Is A Secret SpyKrillinglasses 02:14, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that page. Mr.popoSSJ4 Vegito Is A Secret SpyKrillinglasses 12:35, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:35, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Is that you?

Are those pictures of those people in DBZ outfits you? EntertainmentFan14 14:56, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they are. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oh wow, you really know how to get into character. EntertainmentFan14 20:38, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I just like the villains most of all. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:29, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ultimate Tenkaichi

Hello PrinceZarbon. Do you think you'll be picking up Ultimate Tenkaichi in October or later? From what I have seen, it actually looks pretty decent, and it has characters you like, like Zarbon, Dodoria and Cui included, plus, the character creator might be interesting to try. Also, can I ask, what are your least favorite fights in the franchise? (DB, Z, and GT.) Good job with all the quotes by the way, if you need a certain pic for a quote, you can ask me if you need to! :) NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 20:42, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I will be buying the game mate. My least favorite fights are Cell v. Gohan, Cell v. Goku, Broly v. Goten and Trunks, Captain Ginyu v. Goku, Janemba v. Gogeta, Super Buu v. Vegito, Super Buu v. Gotenks, Kid Buu v. Goku, and Goku v. Uub. But Cell v. Gohan is my overall least favorite in the entire series run. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:53, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
I agree with most of those, the Super Buu vs. Vegito fight really bugged me, how Vegito could still fight as a candy, plus, Vegito should have been weaker, becuase when Vegeta and Goku fused, they seemed to have gotten some extra power out from nowhere. I don't hate the fusion dance or potara concept, but I did not like any of the fusions actually done in the series. Speaking of Ultimate Tenkaichi, do you think you'll be making some characters? It would be cool to fight you, I own a PS3. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 16:00, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, the Super Buu v Vegito fight is my 2nd least favorite because of the silly candy fighting bit. I will probably play online, though I don't play as much as before as I don't have as much time. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:27, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Nice new edits on your profile. Cool to see what you think about the entire franchise. I made a page for Shunsuke Kikuchi a while back, if you want to link it on your profile. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 20:23, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
I linked it; thanks. I wanted to update my page because people asked me the same questions on numerous occasions, so I updated my page to incorporate this information and answer questions easier. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:36, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
No prob. Found cool video you will like, Zarbon vs. Vegeta first fight Japanese dub. Also, great job on making the pages for Shunsuke Kikuchi's soundtrack, he deserves credit for his masterful work. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 19:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
As you can tell, I am slowly going to add all the instances where the tracks I love most play throughout the series run and annotate them within the articles; and yes, the moment Zarbon transforms is my favorite in all musical intrigues where Kyoufu no Ginyu Tokusentai plays in the background. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:23, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
On another note, I looked at your user page and agree about all the characters you hate, as I hate them almost all of them also... seriously, those same ones... But I want to know... why do you hate Supreme Kai? He's the only one I don't hate... I actually feel neutral for him as I found his role to be rather minimal; he did hardly anything much so I don't know why you'd hate him; just curious as the rest makes sense to me minus that minor facet. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:32, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
It's cool you agree with most of them. I "dislike" Supreme Kai because I found him annoying, for being the ruler of rulers, he did not do that much. Also, there was just something about him that ticked me off that I can't really explain. I was just not that keen on him the moment he spoke, even in the manga. I'm not sure if that was a good enough explanation, but those are the reasons I have. Now I'm going to steal your smile for this, ^_^ NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 20:43, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dammit, that was my smile! My smile I tellz ya. But yeah, I sort of understand; you don't like that he didn't do much... I just can't hate someone for that myself, I'd want them to have more of a role if anything... I would have liked better if he stayed separate from Kibito too, I hated that he was forced into staying with Kibito in that fused state. Now... let me grace you with another smile here, slightly different. ^_~ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:31, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I don't hate characters for not doing much, but for him, bragging about himself being the ruler of rulers, and his power, he just dissapointed me. Plus, I found his attitude a little annoying. Thanks for the slightly different smile, XD. ^_^ BTW, nice pics you have been uploading for the soundtrack pages. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 09:15, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad. I'm going through slowly adding all the tracks I love most... Primarily all the selected Japanese tracks. I might add some of the Faulconer stuff in the future, but likely not much; just the ones I feel were well-made ("Pikkon's Theme" and "Electronic Circus".) For example, I absolutely hated the whole Cell theme in English version, and they had loads of versions of that same exact track, it annoyed me so much to hear it; it was random techno notes... which didn't appeal to me at all. I pay very close attention to music as it's one of, if not THE most important thing to me in the series; it seriously makes or breaks the series for me; the only other thing I judge the series on is the fight scenes, and there's not many of those I love either; well, there's a few as I stated, but the ones that strike me most in the series are Zarbon v Vegeta... Recoome v Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin... Android 19 v Vegeta and Goku... Nappa v. Piccolo, Gohan, Goku, Krillin, Chiaotzu, and Tien... and Spopovich v Videl. Those are my top-tier fights. The rest don't cut it when it comes to EXTREME CONSTANT brutality. But that's just my opinion. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:07, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm a big fan of the brutal fights, putting protagonists in a troubling situation, with some devasating losses and/or injuries, or both. I'm also a fan of fights where there are interesting techniques and fight moves performed, such as Sky Dragon vs. Goku, Shula vs. Goku, Tao Pai Pai vs. Blue (I have grown to respect the tongue thing.), Tien vs. Goku (I really like the Kikoho) and that's a reason why I like DB more than Z, most of the fights were more interesting to me. If a character has an interesting set of techniques, that can make me like them, such as Sky Dragon, Shula, although if a character just plain annoys me, that can make me hate them, despite having awesome moves. Athough I like characters most due to thier personality, and actions. I generally am more interested in what villains do, but I can love heroes equally the same, although villains usually I'll start to like more then heroes. Most characters in a series I like, some I find bland, and some I find bad. Music can really break or make a series for me too, and I can't stand most of Bruce's music, (Never been a big fan of rock.), Shunsuke really made the anime exciting, or sad, or happy when it needed to be. I think my favorite scene in the entire anime (DB, Z, GT) is either Zarbon pummeling Vegeta, or Kuririn's first death, which the Japanese music really helped. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 08:09, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Krillin's first death is one of my favorite scenes as an emotional scene also; It ranks as one of my top ten most emotional scenes. I separate the emotional scenes from the brutal ones, as Zarbon v Vegeta is my favorite of the brutal ones. Technically speaking, I agree about most of Dragon Ball's fight scenes being better. I have those minor exceptions in Z though. I hate most of the main battles in Z, as you can tell. I completely was bored from the whole Cell debacle and the Buu quarrel. I only like the Frieza debacle as it was suited to match the rest of the series perfectly. By the time it hit Cell, it was no longer about the Dragon Balls, it was merely about Super Saiyan level ascension whatever. I really think the Cell saga is what destroyed the original concept of DBZ... and since in Japan, DB is actually one series (in the manga, there is no Z... it's all just 42 volumes... the first 30 volumes are awesomeness... But once Cell shows up, it gets really lame to me... so it's fine for me up until after 19's battle). - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:48, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
I own all the manga books, and I know it's all one series. I agree with the Cell arc ruining the flow of the series, it did not become about Dragon Balls anymore (The thing in the titles name!). I know you have to change things up a bit sometimes to keep fresh, but not change the main thing that largely. I can see why Akira wanted to end it at the Frieza arc, wraaping things up perfectly, finally knowing about Goku's mysterious backstory, why he had such weird traits (Tail, huge eating.) and I felt it would have been a great ending. It also explained Piccolo's myserious backstory, and the Drsgon Balls also. I like Frieza far more than Cell and Buu (All of them), because he had an interesting backstory, and had fears of his own, not completely fearless. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 17:57, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Well, when we examine Toriyama's opinion, he himself likes Frieza's arc most... he himself hates Vegeta most... he himself likes Piccolo most of the heroes... and he himself prefers Hercule out of all the supporting cast. I find his opinion to be better than the likes of younger audiences, who seem to like useless and stupid characters like Broly or Pikkon (the mary sue types who are too powerful for their own good and serve no purpose than to just be uber-powerful for no reason)... I myself am a strict villain fan, but I understand Toriyama for liking Piccolo over the rest of the heroes [his story is just plain awesome]... Toriyama admittedly gave Vegeta like seriously... the best backstory with Frieza and his men... but made him coincidentally... such a jerk... which is a conundrum since his story is very good but he's a jerk. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:04, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with Toryiama's taste in his characters, because I like Piccolo and Mr. Satan, but not Vegeta, however, his backstory with Frieza, being a slave almost all of his life, really was interesting, intense, and the same for Nappa and Raditz. I wish Raditz's backstory of being Goku's brother was more deep, as it did not really effect the story in any way, nor lead up to anything much. I hate uber powerful characters who have no reason to be that strong, and don't have an interesting backstory to back it up. Frieza may have been quite mary-sueish when fighting against Vegeta, Kuririn, Gohan, and Piccolo, but at least Goku before going Super landed some decent hits, showing Frieza is not unbeatable. :) I think Toryiama knew after the Frieza Arc how popular Vegeta was, so he needed to give him some "Badass" moments, (Pwning Semi Cell, kicking around Majin Buu.), to please the fans, despite not liking the character. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 22:47, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I felt that Vegeta had all the best moments in the series out of all the heroes when it came to the brutality aspect. Piccolo had all the emotional moments... I felt that Vegeta's bone-cracking maneuvers were the best amongst all the heroes and he was the most relentless and ruthless of the protagonists, which made him annihilate his opponents in the best possible ways. That just made me love his enemies though, not him; since they were the ones getting butchered by him. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:23, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
I liked those moments too, although Akira may not have enjoyed drawing them, as he is quite critical of his work. ^_^ Vegeta I actually did like in the Saiyan Saga, I thought he was quite a twisted character, but when he got to Namek, he just started to annoy me, complaining about Super Saiyan and things. Although, I think Akira did a great job with the entire franchise overall, because even though I don't like Cell very much, many others do, and he has managed to hit many people with his work, and who still love it to this day. I think my favorite Vegeta moment in the entire run is him ripping off Android 19's arms. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 23:32, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Android 19 v Vegeta, coincidentally, is my favorite moment in the entire Cell Saga... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:35, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, XD. Wow, this has been one long conversation. Sorry if I dragged it on. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026Super Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPaiSend me a message!PIccolo12 23:39, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
That's fine; I'll be archiving my talk page soon anyways. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:25, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


Hello PrinceZarbon. If you could, can you please archive my talk page for me? Also, can you use this photo for the archive? Thanks!-- 02:31, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
I've archived it mate. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:49, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much!-- 13:28, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Zarbon being a mutant

In a fan made page I made. I revealed that in addition to each having their own race Zarbon, Dodoria, and the Ginyu Force are mutants and that's how they got their powers. I was wondering what do you think of making Zarbon a mutant? Supersaiyan09 20:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think nothing of it; He's an alien to me, not a mutant. Sorry I only go by canon. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:49, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
I respect that. Just curious. I actually did keep him as an alien but he's a mutated alien. Just curious what do you think of Dodoria as a mutant Supersaiyan09 05:41, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Same concept. I only go by canon for all the characters. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:42, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
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