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Question, why is the page linked below locked? It doesn't seem like it should be. And if it shouldn't be, could you fix it? I appologize if I've done somthing wrong making this comment on your page, but, being an admin, you seemed like the person to ask.

Through the Mountain (talk) 00:26, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

I unlocked the InoShiKaCho page. It appears that page was met with heavy vandalism about a few years ago. If such behavior continues, it will have to be locked once more. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:07, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Yah, I protected it because even auto confirmed users kept adding that the name came from Naruto, which is 100% wrong. That was indeed 4 years ago, so maybe it will be okay now. Lol PZ and I are going to keep pretending it is normal for us to have been running this site for another 5 years yet : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:32, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

I'm glad you had locked it; that's the best course of action when vandalism persists. Additionally, I was quite aware of our lengthy patrolling of this wiki for the last 6 years. I find that our great effort has made the wiki a better place as it's been vandal-free due to the almost immediate attention we've given to the articles and what not. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:43, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

"See also" section

This section was removed because of the template:PTO which replace the usage of such a section. Also, I left a message about the trivia point you restored on Zarbon's race talk page. ShulabyninjaJeangabinTalkContribDaburawrh 17:34, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Noted. I see what you mean. The only reason I added the sections in the first place was because I wanted to link the articles that related to the given article the most. But since they are already listed in the template, I'll leave it out. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:44, February 23, 2014 (UTC)


I wanted to add some video game quotes to the page on Arale and I did but when I finished, the page messed up and instead of having the pictures and all the words, it just had numbers, letter and bracets to replace it. Can you try to reverse what I did? Thank you. Ultimate Humungousaur (talk) 10:10, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

It's already been done. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:44, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Interwiki ghost message

"So I woke up this morning and checked my wikia messages, only to find one new message sent to me from three years ago. It was a message from a person called "PrinceZarbon", who left a message on "Featured Quote's Wall". I clicked it, and it sent me to a 404 page on the Dragonball wikia. Despite the fact that I had never even been on that wikia. Ever.

Can anyone explain/relate to this?"

A user on my other wiki posted this. Did you see anything special, like seeing the username "Monkey BBZ"? A (tc) 01:52, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Update, two complants now. 
This is odd. I never sent any messages to specific members. It is very likely that the wikia uses the administrator names when sending messages automatically; the same explanation for welcome messages on talk pages for new users; which would make sense if it's anything of that relation. It is most likely that these messages are automated by wikia standards. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:56, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

DB keychains

hey PZ, maybe you can add these to your Collectibles pages.

Csp56086 3

   The         R-                              -Less      One                                             13:06, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'm on it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:16, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Article creation

Hey where can I create a new article I can't find it? Speedy X (talk) 23:59, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

On the top panel, there is a link called "contribute," click it and scroll down to "add a page" and there you have it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:32, March 13, 2014 (UTC)


I'll have you know that there was a particularly nasty User that was vandalizing your articles (noteworthy ones at that). I suggest you keep an eye out for him and I suggest an immediate suspension from the Wiki when you see him. I've seen his type before, and this shouldn't be left unchecked. Sincerely The Omniscent Shadow of the Moon (talk) 06:33, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Replying to Prince Zarbon's welcome :-).

Thanks for the heads up and welcome - Zarbon! Ill be sure to check those out to make sure I get the formatting right. More than happy to help where I can :-). Much love, and great work on this wiki! Learning alot of small tid bits I would've had no idea about otherwise. AMKR SourceAuras (talk) 00:30, April 21, 2014 (UTC)AMKR of Source Auras, Aeons Old & Air Loom Gang.

Beat me to it...

Fixed my edit before I could, haha. 

This competition sounds like a lot of fun, but be prepared for Goku to take the cake and eat it. I really don't think there's much competition. He's not my favourite, but he is many others' favourite. MrBuuAngry(BoG) Dinky TaoTheAssassin Talk Vlcs2010-05-25-13h35m05s40 21:00, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

The finish is between Goku and Vegeta. As much as I dislike Vegeta for his traitorous and betraying methods, I actually prefer him to win because he's got the best story in the series run to me... well him and Piccolo both. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:04, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Top tens

Okay, I added my picks to the categories you asked for. I already had posted on the "best fights" category a long time ago but I have a new, revised one at the bottom. Goku SS3Shakuran13Tapion with bladeThisDragonFistGokuHirudegarnMovie13endsKonatsian wizard with effectsNOW!SS3Rush 03:37, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I greatly appreciate your input. Every vote will make a difference for the final tally. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:12, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Kotobukiya Bishoujo

My mind fried

you know merchandise

make page work Oh God I'm so confused. — A (tc) 17:37, May 6, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Prince Zarbon! I think you should change the picture for the recent chi chi quote, as it is obstructing the format of the main page, doesn't fit, unless of course the quote comes from the Garlic jr. saga...then thats ok, i guess! =) Also...I think this quote might be pretty good to put up for next one maybe? =) 

Also, could we please change the formatting of the movies, and season quotes etc. to like how the sagas pages are set up? =) easier to click next, then to scroll down, and find the "See Also" section for the rest of said articles. =)?

I'm guessing you don't take requests...but maybe? plz? XD =p =)

An enraged Gohan


the animal quote is in reference to Frieza. I would need more meaning encompassing a quote as opposed to just a name-calling, but I probably will use that one as it is better than other requests like "it's over 9000" which holds absolutely no meaning whatsoever. In regards to the Chi-Chi quote, it's fine as I alter them daily and will have a new quote up tomorrow. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:58, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
Oh, Cool!=) Didn't actually expect you to respond so fast, but what about my third thing i asked you about...? would it be too much work to do for each page...or what? =)? Also...Where does the quote come didn't answer me b4...=)? WaffleGuy26 (talk) 04:25, May 14, 2014 (UTC) 
I think you're referring to the formatting for the specific articles; I think I know what you mean, it's not too hard to change that; I can do it sometime this week. Thanks for notifying me. In regards to the quotes, I choose them. I've chosen them for over 5 years now and I still have a large amount to work with. As of yet, I will not be re-using quotes that I've already used, because there's over twice that amount still to come. I also only use meaningful lines as opposed to ones without meaning. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:57, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
Update:I made the quote template and put it on the articles. It should be better now. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:32, May 15, 2014 (UTC)



Please ban him.

Ban him now.— A (tc) 21:33, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Seems like this user's already blocked, but thanks for the heads up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:00, May 15, 2014 (UTC)


How do i block a user? (Janemba's over 9000 (talk) 11:14, May 19, 2014 (UTC))

You ask me or another admin. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:58, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Prince Zarbon. Arrimas 13:44, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

can you block this guy for me.

--Janemba's over 9000 (talk) 02:28, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

There would have to be a reason attached to your request. Keffy is a fine user; do you have a reason? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:10, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

I do not care if he is a "fine" user im not telling you to ban him im saying i want to block him from seeing my blogs. He comments on my blogs are pointless and are always negative and im tired of seeing them. If you dont know how i can block him just let me know and i will deal with it.... I dont understand why there isnt a block user button?

--Janemba's over 9000 (talk) 05:51, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Problem Here

EDIT: Nevermind. It's fixed now...I'm mot sure if you did it or not...but..ya, if you could still fill me in on it, that would be good. =) WaffleGuy26 (talk) 06:21, June 1, 2014 (UTC) 

Hey Prince Zarbon~! I have a Problem. Not sure if anyone else is getting it, but since you're on in chat now, you might recive this faster. Anyway, I think the Recent Blog Button is broken, because i keep getting Wroks fine for Forum One...=p =).

This was like a Week, and two days ago...=p If you know what's going on, Please Respond. Also heads up to you admins. Its best to respond on my talk page, but ok for your own page...i mean, i might forget...but ya. =p =) Ok...Bye! WaffleGuy26 (talk) 23:13, May 27, 2014 (UTC) 

EDIT: Hey Prince Zarbon! About your quotes...Could you add a link of what episode they came from? That could be helpful. Thanks! K, Bye now! =) WaffleGuy26 (talk) 03:18, June 2, 2014 (UTC) 

No, I'm not going to add links to the episodes as reference. That would take a long time for me to track down as I already pulled the ones to be used in the past so I wouldn't have to. Also, they are not all from episodes. Some are from the Funi dub, some from the Ocean, and others from the manga itself. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:29, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, ok. Well, Thanks anyway. =) K, bye! =D WaffleGuy26 (talk) 00:07, June 3, 2014 (UTC) 

Blog Question

How do you delete a blog that you've made? Do I have to ask you or one of the other admins to delete it for me? If so, I'd like to delete one of the blogs Ive made recently. Thanks! Thebigdbz (talk) 10:45, June 4, 2014 (UTC)TheBigDbz

Which one do you want to delete; give me the title. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:19, June 4, 2014 (UTC)


Can you delete my blog please

--Janemba's over 9000 (talk) 18:06, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Alright; I deleted it per your request. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:03, July 2, 2014 (UTC)


Hey man, sorry to bother, but some idiot totally messed up the page, "Tao Attacks!", with some spam crap and I don't really know how to turn it back to the way it was. Could you please rollback the edits to the last version done by me? Learner556 (talk) 16:24, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I fixed it and temp blocked the user for the erroneous actions. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:27, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
Ahhh thanks man! Learner556 (talk) 16:37, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Gallery PX

I'm really shocked by your message here. Even if I changed gallery PX, it was before the community had decided anything regarding this. I don't think it is fair threaten me that way. ShulabyninjaJeangabinTalkContribDaburawrh 00:47, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

I see users who constantly vandalize the wiki and mess up pages, and they're never blocked. Take User:GodOfDestructionBills for example. He regularly vandalizes pages, and vandalized the Raditz article yesterday. Is he blocked?! No. He didn't even received any warning messages. I you sent this aggressive message to me, a user who constantly improve pages, revert vandalism, and is open to discuss and respect guidelines for the community. ShulabyninjaJeangabinTalkContribDaburawrh 01:21, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
I discussed this with my fellow administrators before sending the message to you. It was a strong and solid yet firm stance we are holding on this regard. Do not attempt to say we don't block members when it's necessary. We do it, but only as a last resort. Also, you have a habit of not following guidelines based on what you feel is "improvement". Do not question my statement; you will be blocked if you repeatedly revert one more of an administrator's edits without proper merit. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:33, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Main page

I got it. He added a overlay to the bloglist template.A (tc) 22:38, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Will do. I already blocked him and I protected the bloglist template. This is another reason why I was generally against having templates for each particle sub-section dealing with blogs, videos, and other chat functions. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:43, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Parent Pages

Hey there! I'm reaching out to you because we were hoping to set up a "Parent Page" on the Dragonball Wiki. Here is a Parent Page example from The Hunger Games Wiki to give you an idea of what the page entails. Essentially, it's a guide for parents about the age range for different wikis with details about the franchise that might be important when deciding whether or not to allow their kids to watch it. Since you and the other admins are more knowledgeable about the series and are the actual community experts, it would be great if you could help us fill it out! Let me know if you have any questions :) Grace @fandom (profile)•(talk) 18:45, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Well, this isn't as simple as hunger games when it comes to the construct of the material; dragon ball is not a movie; it's a franchise featuring manga, series, tv films, video games, and a repertoire of other entertainment mediums. Therefore, featuring a parent page would merely limit the scope of its primary focus. the dragon ball in-verse is as complex as the star wars wookiepedia resource. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:41, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Understandable! The Hunger Games Wiki page was just an example, but we have parent page templates that actually cover movies, TV, books, and video games. The idea is to try and provide as much information as possible to those people who are interested in the franchise but aren't too sure what the content will be like. If you'd like, I can add all those templates to the Parent Page for this wikia since Dragonball has so many parts to it. What would be great is if this community could help us fill it out since, as you've proven above, you are all the real experts on the subject! Let me know if that's alright with you or if you have any more questions about the project! Grace @fandom (profile)•(talk) 23:56, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Please refer to my comrades 10XKamehameha, Shakuran13, SSJ4 Vegito, and Dark Seeker Kotsu. All administrative consensus must be met before a parent page is added. If they are all fine with it, then we can have at it. Thanks for letting me know, please transfer this message to 10X and he will forward it to my fellow comrades. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:11, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

No problem, I've left a message on 10XKamehameha's wall. Please let me know if any of you have any more questions! Grace @fandom (profile)•(talk) 15:53, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Please warn if i'm doing something wrong! I want to assist as much as I can. This is one of the only wikis' that don't have insufferable admins. Thanks :) (New World God (talk) 03:15, August 2, 2014 (UTC))

Thoughts on Goku?

Hey, Zarbon! I was reading through your very interesting profile, and I couldn't help but notice I didn't see much of Goku on there.

I mean, I know you favor the villains over heroes, and you've said why you dislike Vegeta, Goten/Trunks/Gotenks, etc. but I was wondering what your opinion is on Goku? He's a hero, so you must not like him a WHOLE lot, but he's also not annoying (most of the time) like Gotenks, or betraying like Vegeta. So how do you feel about him?

Apologies if you've actually said your feelings toward him on your profile, it was just so long I couldn't read all of it lol. OutrightUndead (talk) 06:32, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'm glad you asked me. I feel neutrality for Goku as opposed to resentment. I have the most dislike for the characters of Android 17 [betrayal complex], Cell [boring onscreen], and Vegeta [executing everyone I actually like; be it a conundrum because I like them due to their executions]. I am neutral for Goku in this sense as he tries his best to help everyone and even stays dead so further fighting does not commence in his name. These feats are honorable for a main character, but I still don't like him as he's not a vicious dictatorial warmonger or a brutal militant savage in nature. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:13, August 12, 2014 (UTC)


My brother snucked onto my computer when i wasnt looking and visited alot of child porn sites he also emailed viruses to all my friends and than ruined my reputatin on this website! what should i do?! pls help!!!!1 MEGA13 (talk) 19:45, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

You can't do anything. Be careful not to leave your login information if that is the case, especially on a shared computer. Try to contact 10X; see if he'll unblock you as he's the blocking admin in your case. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:22, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
He's just a troll PZ, don't mind this guy. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:49, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I suspected that much, which is why I referred him to your talk so you'd turn him down, sweet comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:17, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Kai Majin Buu saga episode pages

Hey PZ! ;)

  • You know how we basically copy off the Kanzenshu page for summarys about the New Majin Buu kai episodes?
  • Can we do that for there "Episode notes" and put it as Trivia?
  • I've already done it on the first episode page of the Majin Buu saga. Jawbreaker3 User:WaffleGuy26 talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 05:25, August 25, 2014 (UTC) 
We aren't really allowed to copy and paste material without crediting the source. If you know how to source each reference, you may paste the appended information but only with the proper sourcing. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:29, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
Ok...But that means we should probably do that for the summarys of all those Majin Buu saga ;p ;) Jawbreaker3 User:WaffleGuy26 talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 02:05, August 26, 2014 (UTC) 

Crediting the source on Dragon Ball Kai

Hey! Prince Zarbon, is this ok? ;)?!_Starting_Today,_Gohan_is_a_High_Schooler.

I've added the links as you said, however I'm not sure if this is "Trivia" or not. Jean told me before a couple times I'm simply just adding Information. When he was uh...Active. ;p. Do you know what happened to him? Taking "Leave" I suppose. Once/If you give me the Green Light, I will Glady do this on all Dragon Ball Kai pages. :). Jawbreaker3 User:WaffleGuy26 talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 03:05, August 26, 2014 (UTC) 

Yes, that's fine. And in some instances, it's possible to have more than one source per reference. So if you get other sources, just link them as well. The more sources there are, the easier it is to verify the accuracy and credibility of each verse. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:29, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Changing your Wikia Name

Hey, PZ! Are you able to change your name on your wikia account, or is it permanent, and you have to create a whole new account...:/...(Note: I have noticed you have the same anme to/for all wikias that you actually join.) If so, is there anyway to shift your edit counts, conrtibutions, talk page, and profile page to it? Thanks. ;) (Not saying I'd want to..I like my username. :D atm...;p :)-) Jawbreaker3 User:WaffleGuy26 talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 03:32, August 27, 2014 (UTC) 

I believe admins are able to rename user-pages for you. Although this isn't really something that is done very often. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:20, August 27, 2014 (UTC)
Oh, Alright then. Hey, and Thanks! ;) Jawbreaker3 User:WaffleGuy26 talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 06:27, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

DB Icons in Chat

Hey PZ! Are you able to Use those DB Icons you made in Chat, elsewhere like on Talk pages, etc.? :) Thanks. :D Also, can you refresh my memory on how to make them, is it (Blank)? Ok, thanks! ;)Jawbreaker3 User:WaffleGuy26 talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 05:48, August 28, 2014 (UTC) 

No, I believe they are limited to chat. And yes, it's as easy as (name). - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:40, August 28, 2014 (UTC)
Aww...Ok, Thanks! :) Nice work, if you made those. :D Also, since you love db villians so much, even more than db heroes, care to take a look at my (imo a well thought out quizish, kind of), do it, and once finished, tell me what you think of it? :D, also, do you like my old, or new sig better? (Note:I'm just testing my new sig out, not the final product, :D.) :)-)? MajinBuuFatDaburaChocolate User:WaffleGuy26 talk contribWaffle-homestyle 02:28, August 29, 2014 (UTC)  
I guess I prefer the first variant of your sig but only cause it shows the dabura cookie, dabura being one of my favorites in the buu saga. I'll rank the images... first the dabura cookie, then buu turning him into a cookie, third the waffle icon, and last the piece of round candy. I'll take a look at your quiz mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:32, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
What about the background colour? White or yellow? :)? MajinBuuFatDaburaChocolate WaffleGuy26 talk contribWaffle-homestyle 03:08, August 30, 2014 (UTC) 

Re:Which DB Villain Quiz Results

Ironically...You got: Zarbon. xD. :) 



Runner up: Second place-Burter :)

Third place: Dodoria. ;) 





Second, Third, Fourth, etc. Favourite Colour? :)? (For the Quiz.) Also, What did you think of it? :)? 

MajinBuuFatDaburaChocolate WaffleGuy26 talk contribWaffle-homestyle 07:40, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

It's fine. my first favorite color is green. my second-favorite color is blue. third is red. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:38, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Hey! I checked your Profile page, so your fourth favourite colour is Pink, and Fifth is Black? Our colour choices are suprisigly very similiar! =). Mine are 1: Green, 2: Red, 3: Black, 4:Blue, and 5: Pink (Majin Buu! :)-) p.s. 1: Did you vote on my poll?

2: So...Good, not great. You've done a better db villain   quiz before? Thats ok i guess...:/ :P :)?

and 3: Is it you who is in those cosplay pictures,or someone else, or perhaps some of them specifically are you, and others, are other people? ;), K, Thanks. :D MajinBuuFatDaburaChocolate WaffleGuy26 talk contribWaffle-homestyle 01:02, 

August 31, 2014 (UTC)

I'll try to answer all your questions.

1. dunno...? are you referring to the poll that states which of your sigs are better? I voted for the first choice, your original sig.

2. I have made db villain quizzes myself; previously on facebook where i gave a heavy amount of questions with numerous selections.

3. yes it's all me.

- Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:14, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Oh...? Interesting. Could you link me to it? I'd be interested in doing one your own. You haven't made any "Which DB Hero are you" quizzes I take it? :P. :)? p.s. Did you get Zarbon by doing your own quiz, or...not? :)? (P.s., I have told you only Dbz and GT villians right? Caus I haven't watched Dragon Ball yet, It was stated on my page, if you didn't already know, I guess you also added Db Villians too, a.k.a, "General Blue"?. :)?MajinBuuFatDaburaChocolate WaffleGuy talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 12:49, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Hyperbolic Time Chamber (TP)-Talk Page

Hey PZ, can you take a look a this, and give me your thoughts/opinion, (Remember, only on the Talk page) If the link doesn't work, just go to the actual page, ok? :). Thanks. :D: MajinBuuFatDaburaChocolate WaffleGuy talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 02:11, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

I took a look at it for you and added my thoughts. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:07, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Custome-made Pictures

Hey PZ! Also, can we upload custom made pictures, or are we not allowed to alter pictures in any way, like drawing on them using paint, etc. I mean, It is for my Profile page/Profile pic, or ("Avatar").? Obviously not allowed in pages/articles of course right, but your Profile page/Avatar? ;/? Respond? Thanks in advance. :D MajinBuuFatDaburaChocolate WaffleGuy talk contribDaburaCookie.Ep.235 04:35, September 1, 2014 (UTC) 

You can't alter previously uploaded images that are currently in use. But you can upload your own creations and tag them with the proper copyright and/or informational attachment and use the images on your user and talk pages. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:06, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

I need your help

I need your help. First off User:GianG has been edit warring on List of birth dates and the Dragon Ball Timeline. Second off I need to know if his translation of Dragon Ball GT Perfect Flies from Italian to English is right his translation says that Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. where born in age 880 so they are 9. I asked him what he used to get his translation and he never answered it really.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  09:04,9/6/2014 

In instances where there are no sources or any related material to prove the age, just revert the actions. I will look into the edit warring and if so, temp ban this user for this behavior. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:12, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

External site polls

Hi PZ! I don't think we should post poll results on articles. After all, there are hundreds if not thousands of polls of that sort available online. It feels like its the opinion of a handful of fans that happen to work for a popular external website, and not anything published by a DB-licensed content source. Would you agree? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:34, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

For example, upon watching/reading the top villains list on, they are just picks by some fan on their staff named Andy Law. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:44, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
No, actually, the watchmojo polls are more official as they are clearly spread across the web as opposed to being limited to youtube or google video or some random fan poll. If they were fan-made polls, I would definitely agree 100%. But watchmojo, much like ign, wizard publications, or anime magazine publications, is a strong reference site. Any other sites, I would definitely agree don't deserve any mention. But these specific highlights are very well known on the net. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:02, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

To test the crux of your assertion that watchmojo is relevant based on being comparably well known to IGN, I ran a quick google trends search. To set a point of relative comparison, I included the term "Dragon Ball" on the chart. It's clear that while IGN is a well-established media source for 10+ years, Watchmojo is very new and not yet established as credible.

In terms of popularity compared to Youtube top ten lists by fans, another search shows that Youtube top 10 lists are in fact more popular than everything combined on Watchmojo. In fact, the top hit when I ran my own google search for top 10 dragon ball villains watchmojo was the watchmojo video posted on youtube. I have to conclude that individuals making top 10 lists on youtube, which we both agree are not valid references on articles, are at the same level of popularity as watchmojo. Watchmojo is not licensed, the list was made by one fan, and it is much less popular than IGN.

I don't like to do the "impose my will" sort of thing, so if you can get a consensus to add Watchmojo as an official reference for articles, let's do it on the Manual on Style talk page. Until then, I'm going to use the normal convention of reverting the site to the state before the disputed edit. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:51, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

I started the topic and I would truly value your input. My hope is that we can get at least a semi-formal standard in place for deciding what can be referenced in articles. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:07, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
I didn't say that watchmojo was more popular in that sense. What I meant was that it is distinctly more official. All the fan-made material on youtube is less-known. If you go to youtube and type "top 10" dragon ball or anything of that context for lists, watchmojo is the first to show up, not the fan-made material. I have no dispute, but most of the material on watchmojo seems much more official than that of any fan-made material. I'm not for the removal of all video links or anything of that caliber. I'm simply against having the video links show up on the site itself, if you would remember. After very careful searching for top lists, watchmojo is the only one that shows up with an enormous viewer rate. It's as official as you can get without it being made by Funimation or Toei itself. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:52, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

I think the challenge here is we haven't established a good way to say what is "official" other than licensed media and guides. Hopefully we can figure it out with the community's help : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:24, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Gotcha. You realize that I greatly agree with your mentality in that regard. I just think we need to establish some form of criteria where we can include merit of relative sourcing as it makes for a great encyclopedic resource. As long as we don't include any fan-made material, I would like to think we should be able to source such licensed guides or the like. This is, in and of itself, our core mission; to highlight a consensus so as to aid us in our future sourcing and allow links to certain online resources. What do you think? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:30, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, licensed DB guide books are definitely official enough. We need to establish which non-licensed sources (IGN, WatchMojo, YouTube, etc.) are good enough as either a simple list of named sites, or go the route of setting specific criteria that any site can be judged by. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:21, September 9, 2014 (UTC)


That slideshow is amazing!!!!!! Wow!!!! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 18:34, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

I worked hard on it. I'm currently working on finishing the rest of the slideshows pertaining to the Brutal Moments, Emotional Moments, and Characters. I hope you'll like them, mate. We can switch them around and rotate them as you like when we have all four. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:17, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

I can tell you worked hard! Monthly rotation sound about right? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 18:10, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

I am pretty sure we have a vandal on the lose

I am pretty sure User:JohnnyStrapon is a vandal can you check to make sure I am right. Also User:Greatgokugay is and User:JohnnyStrapon are adding fan made pics to Beerus and the one User:Greatgokugay added was porn or hentai whatever you want to call it I undone and reverted the edits but User:JohnnyStrapon is going to keep on adding it.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  04:47,9/14/2014 

Never mind User:Dark Seeker Kotsu took care of it.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  05:20,9/14/2014 

Thanks for the heads up. If such behavior continues, feel free to report it and one of the admins will deal with it as swiftly as possible. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:44, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
Will do.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  21:16,9/14/2014 


i am 12 and what is this Auibnbrnbia (talk) 01:10, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

If that's a user page, it doesn't fall under the same consensus as the articles or encyclopedic material. What users choose to write on their own user pages is their own business although we encourage that foul language is kept to a minimum. I would recommend not getting involved with users like that if you are offended by such behavior. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:14, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Villain Expert Needed!

Hey PZ. Someone raised an issue about villain races and I was wondering if you could weigh in? Thanks! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:40, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I added my bit; thanks for the heads up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:54, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


Please delete the black and white avatar photo, it is visible from google and I am trying to erase my image from the internet for privacy reasons.Lazarus Plus (talk) 17:19, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I don't know exactly what avatar you're talking about but you can link it and I'll take a look. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:54, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Edit warrer

Legoviking285 wouldn't stop edit warring after his warning. — A (tc) 19:43, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I checked it and blocked this user for 1 week. If such behavior continues after the block expires, a more lengthy block should be passed along. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:12, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


actually there is one thing that you can help me with ho the hell do i use the kameahamea wave on Dragon Ball GT: Transformation or the other goku moves cause i never owned it i play it online with an emulator and i do use the save state cheat thing like everyone does i use it for just save files cause my mom's pc doesent save coockies for some reason (KTEfan1998 (talk) 16:58, September 23, 2014 (UTC))

The default controls are:

(GameBoy Advance Control = Keyboard Key)
Up = Up Arrow
Down = Down Arrow
Left = Left Arrow
Right = Right Arrow
Select = Backspace Start = Enter
Button A = Z
Button B = X
Button L = A
Button R = S
Speed Boost (quick speed through loading screens etc.) = Space Bar
Screen Capture (take a picture in-game) = F12
GameShark (to enable cheats) = C
From: Source, and Source - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:12, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Edit war

User:Bardock ssj2 is edit warring on Turles I have started a section on the article talk page about the edit he is making but he will not reply. He has left me a message on my talk page before I made the section. Also I replied on his and let him know the rules which he is still not following this isn't the first time he has done this. Yes I am edit warring also but only because I have already went to 10X about and the Bardock ssj2 is still giving me problems. His edit says that Turles's armor is purple or gray I even asked him when did it ever appear purple and he only answered it by making the edit again and in the appearance section saying purple as in the pic above.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  04:21,9/24/2014 

I blocked this user for one day. If such behavior continues after the block expires, I will hand a more lengthy block. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:05, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
He had already stopped the edit war and posted on the article talk page after I left him a message : / Goku20, try and just ask one of us at a time per issue from now on. We kind of punished this guy twice. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:28, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
I will try.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  00:41,9/25/2014 
10X is correct. In the future, we need a single admin to respond per similar situation. I was unaware of this user's halt of his actions. However, this is why the first block is quite limited; approx. 1-3 days in order to serve primarily as a warning as opposed to a lengthy block. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:45, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Great job!

Hey there. I really love what you did with the Top Ten Most Brutal Moments forum post. Obviously, you put a lot of effort into it and the outcome is simply spectacular. Very well organized and statistically documented. I highly appreciate it. Keep up the awesome work! - Sarabada Talk Contrib. 21:43, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm working on two more of the same caliber and I hope to please the community here! - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:05, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Main Page Slide

Looks cool and all, but I think you should shorten it to like fifty or twenty. I don't know anyone who's gonna go through a hundred slides. Just saiyan. --City♥Lights[stars] 23:19, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

I had to choose between 50 and 100 as there are always too many submissions [around 200] so I made the second hundred as honorable mentions and it's the only way to include everyone's preference in one large result. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:29, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Look, look! d

Piz 4 pz

PZ, look what I got in the 3 months I was away lol Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 20:28, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I'm strictly a villain collector myself. I don't collect any pokemon stuff as I don't like it. The rest of the anime stuff is fine, but I limit my collectible merchandise to specific characters I love. If you got any DBZ-related merch, you can show me that I guess. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:07, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
I don't, lol. I really wanted to have Gilgamesh, but I don't think he is a true villain. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 16:17, October 4, 2014 (UTC)


Yo zarban sups dude umm can i edit the 100 top 10 charecters cuss i need to edit Ultimate Masenko's Picks or you can do it yourself and change the name Ultimate Masenko to Ultimate Chakra and put Future Trunks and Gohan as Number 1 and kidbuu as Number 2. thanks dude! Latest ChakraLatest

Sorry, we don't allow edits to the order itself to previous submissions as I've closed that thread. That's why when they are chosen, it is highly suggested it's confirmed before being added. However, I can easily alter the name to be "Ultimate Chakra" per your request. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:08, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

help meeeeeeeeee

Please. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 21:36, November 5, 2014 (UTC)


I have a question. Are pictures like this one
aloud in article's anywhere? A user has added it twice to Mr. Popo and I undone it and the first time I didn't leave an edit summary but the last time I did.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  06:08,11/24/2014 

Nope, not allowed! Tapion13 Shakuran13' Talk' 06:48, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  07:23,11/24/2014 

Para Para Brothers vs Android 18? 

Hey PrinceZarbon, do you think that the Para Brothers could perform their unique dance to control Android 18?35Baragon (talk) 21:19, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
PicsArt 1418243852980

"I can't stop!" - Android 18

I'm neutral on this matter albeit the fact that I strongly prefer the Para Para brothers to the role of Android 18. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:53, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
Eeeeeh, why, PZ? The Para Brothers aren't villains, y'know. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 01:13, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
What do you mean why? I hate Android 18 and Android 17 the most in the entire series. Well, them along with Cell. I'm neutral for the Para Brothers but at least I don't hate them. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:38, December 11, 2014 (UTC)


I have a question, the Dragon Ball: Xenoverse the 2 Players the Multiplayer playing on stage World Tournament Stage, because they did not play in Stages: Cell Games Arena, Plains, Kami's Lookout, Mountain Road, Supreme Kai's World and Planet Namek. Alexribeiro.soares.7 (talk) 20:17, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Playable Character in Dragonball Xenoverse Question

M8, i heard from credible sources such as dragonball fanon wiki,

that big the cat is confirmed and playable in Dragonball xenoverse?

is this true? I LOVE BIG THE CAT!!!!!! 11:12, December 15, 2014 (UTC) 

I don't know who you are referring to? Is it Beerus? Because if you mean him, then yes, he's confirmed. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:12, December 15, 2014 (UTC) 
i'm referring to big the cat as in the character that i have as my avatar, would he be playable?
also i did a little bit more research before asking you again, as this time i went on sonic fanon wiki and looked at this page for information : Link
just for confirmation M8 I LOVE BIG THE CAT!!!!!! 03:26, December 17, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think that is actual information as it is on a fanon like you yourself stated. It is more than likely a joke on someone's part. I myself like Dr. Robotnik a.k.a. Dr. Eggman from the Sonic verse. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:25, December 17, 2014 (UTC)


The user SuperKamiNail has been editing pages, so ban pls TheFrodo. . . Talk . . . Contribs. 02:29, January 23, 2015 (UTC)




Thank plz. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 20:29, January 30, 2015 (UTC)
I don't get it. I protect all the images I upload so they aren't tampered with after insertion. Why would you bring that up? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:45, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah but it's not like there's someone always vandalizing pics. You do this manually to each of the pics, right? It's sort of pointless. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 17:21, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, we're in disagreement with this as in fact, I've had countless, numerous times where I've used images in the past and they've either been altered by having their titles changed leading to broken links or just plain removed from articles by members who decide to add different variations of the images. By protecting them, this removes the possibility of either form of tampering. If anyone wants to add pics, they can feel free to do so but there's no reason to tamper with previously inserted and previously used images on these articles, especially the collectible resource ones which I myself am the primary contributor. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:51, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Seems worth doing because it prevents some vandalism. No downside that I can think of other than PZ's time to do the clicks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:57, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Add interwiki link please

Hi, could you please add a link to the lithuanian wiki on the main page? Or tell someone who can, thanks


I need your help Bullza is adding the box office gross for Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ and it has only been in theaters in Japan so far and I undone his edit the first time but he re-added so he is edit warring this isn't his first time either.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  19:32,5/18/2015 

I've blocked the user for a day to prevent warring. When the block expires and such behavior continues, notify me and I will lengthen the block to a week. Thanks for the heads up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:28, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

No problem the whole reason I didn't use the article talk page with is because I tried before and he didn't stop the edit warring so I seen it as a lost cause with him. Thanks for helping.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  02:39,5/20/2015 

You are terrible. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 02:43, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
Sandubadear, is the above comment directed at user Goku20 or me? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:32, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
He re-added the box office gross but a different one this time.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  15:18,5/21/2015 

why are you changing it back to the 29 mi gross even though it was updated to 30 mi? Don't. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 23:29, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, I'll keep track of the gross to make sure it's current. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:57, May 24, 2015 (UTC)


Hey, I just sent you an email. Take a look when you get a chance, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:43, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'll take a look mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 07:09, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
I responded to your email comrade. Lemme know if you got my response. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 07:15, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry if I am prying.

Hello PrinceZarbon and sorry if I am prying where i should not be but i think the Dragon ball admin page should be edited to add new admins and remove former admins who are no longer admins.I noticed this when looking through it.

From Blood King OWLtalk 14:47, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

We don't remove previous admins but we do add all the new ones; rather than remove previous administrators, we maintain the fact that they are now "inactive" so as to avoid confusion. The active administrators are listed above. Notify me if we are missing any admins we are not listed and I'd be glad to add them to the list for you. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:40, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ok and thank you for replying. I do not have a vast knowlage about the how many Newer admins here that are not on the list but there are Dark Seeker Kotsu and Anemicne. Sorry but at the moment they are the only two that I know about that are admins and are not on the list. 10X might know all the currently active admins but this is all i can do for the moment.

from Blood King OWLtalk 06:32, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

Both are currently listed mate. Please see here: Admins List. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:05, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

Both listed on the main page as well. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:06, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you for the list I did not know there where two lists i only saw this one sorry

Blood King OWLtalk 07:52, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Well, that's just a category page based on whether the userpages are tagged with the admin category. Some users are moderators whilst others are sysops; this is merely a category that differentiates that. You'd want to look at the lists as 10X and myself pointed above for locating the admins mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:40, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hello princeZarbon i have 3 questions

Hello princeZarbon im new and i saw how helpful you are in the hell talk page please answer my 3 questions do you think Tambourine Drums cymbal went to hell? and do you think piano went to limbo? and what do you think happened to Lucifer after his death? (Spice boys (talk) 00:16, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

I believe they all went to Hell. There are many characters who are killed throughout the series who don't appear in Hell but that's merely continuity and doesn't alter the fact that they are more than likely residents of Hell. Tambourine, Drum, Cymbal, and Lucifer are all in Hell. Piano I'm not sure about myself as I don't even know if he died when he sank into the rubble but since he doesn't appear after that it's more than likely he perished as well. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:25, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks princeZarbon for the help (Spice boys (talk) 19:25, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

PrinceZarbon please answer my last questions well last for now do you think bardock king vegeta and both there crews and the saiyans killed by frieza went to hell? and do you think the spice boys went to hell? (Spice boys (talk) 19:59, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

These are technically the same question you're asking as prior; I believe they all went to hell including the Spice Boys and the majority of the Saiyans due to their ruthless behavior prior to their deaths. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:48, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

oh sorry ok thanks PrinceZarbon for the help (Spice boys (talk) 18:15, May 30, 2015 (UTC) PrinceZarbon please help sorry PrinceZarbon but i really need to ask you this why didn't the creators show any of these villains in the hell escaped scenes? like tambourine for example please answer i really Don't understand why they didn't include them (Spice boys (talk) 22:37, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Same reason why most didn't appear. It would have been too much to animate. They chose the most primary and significant of the manga villains and included them all and didn't bother with some of the anime-only antagonists as they weren't onscreen long enough in their initial appearances. It saves them time to have less animation and this is no different when it comes to anime. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 07:09, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

thank you PrinceZarbon it makes sense (Spice boys (talk) 16:31, June 5, 2015 (UTC) the Spice boys did go to hell i have facts - in the Japanese version when Spice and vinegar were revived by the makyo star Spice said to gohan they crawled out of hell for revenge (Spice boys (talk) 02:27, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Just letting you know that the characters tend to say things like that all the time. It's a metaphor. They are comparing the increase in power to that of Hell's vastness. Regardless of that, I assure you that the Spice Boys are in hell even if they don't appear in the canon material or after their demise. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:52, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks but thats what Spice said in the Japanese dub but thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 19:27, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, and in the Japanese version, a lot more metaphors and comparisons are used. This is a good example of one. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:27, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

thanks PrinceZarbon your theorys are very plausible and agree with them i wish tambourine drum cymbal could be add in the hell residents though but all well and im not sure if piano end up in limbo because it look he was killed by king piccolo (Spice boys (talk) 10:40, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

It wouldn't matter who had killed Piano, either way he likely would be in hell. The problem with Piano is that we can't confirm if he died the way we can with Tambourine, Cymbal, and Drum. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:06, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

ok thats true thanks again (Spice boys (talk) 18:31, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

do you have any idea why grandpa gohan and guru were never see in heaven? and what about 16 after his death? (Spice boys (talk) 21:43, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

You don't have to make a new topic; you are generally asking the same question as before. Whether characters appear in "heaven" or "hell" in the db-verse after death is a matter of animation choice. Much of that doesn't appear in the manga anyway. However, in the case of Grandpa Gohan, he did happen to appear in heaven and was even brought out by Baba to assist as one of her warriors in that saga. Even in the end of DB, Grandpa Gohan is seen with Annin, in what can be an extension of the DB heaven universe. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:12, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

ok PrinceZarbon thanks and its just that i can't find someone who likes dbz none of my friends likes dbz. that's why i go online and ask you these questions and i make topic because i thought it would help you find my questions better (Spice boys (talk) 20:58, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

PrinceZarbon please answer what do you happen to 16 after his death? (Spice boys (talk) 01:03, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

You can ask me the questions, I meant you don't have to make a new topic every time you have a question. Are all your questions related to what happens to the characters after their death? In the case of 16, since he was not a part of hell's army, it's safe to assume he was sent to heaven or was simply destroyed; depending on whether 16 was a pure mechanical construct or a cyborg such as 20 & 19 (as they both had human brains and some parts). In the case of 16, it is safe to assume he was either in heaven or didn't have a soul to be sent to either. He definitely was not in hell; that's the best response in the case of that character. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:22, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

ok i understand thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 17:10, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

please answer PrinceZarbon do think dabura only went to heaven because he was comfortable in Demon realm? and do you think kid buu getting reincarnation into uub was a one off thing and didn't happen again to other villans? (Spice boys (talk) 17:21, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Dabura was sent to Heaven as opposed to Hell because King Yemma deemed it so. He believed Dabura's being sent to Hell would accomplish nothing so he was sent to Heaven instead. Kid Buu was the only one I know who was reincarnated as Uub and that was only as a result of Goku's wish prior to eliminating the evil incarnation of Kid Buu. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:37, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

think you Zarbon king yemma did say in the Japanese dub the demon realm was like hell (Spice boys (talk) 09:41, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

princeZarbon please answer what's canon battle of the gods or GT? im confused (Spice boys (talk) 18:09, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'm upset and disappoint why did they remove tambourine drum cymbal piano from the hell list when I add them):? i know you said no tropic but i really need your opinion (Spice boys (talk) 16:32, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

I removed because we only add characters actually seen in Hell, or in Fusion Reborn or GT. Tambourine, Drum and the others are never seen in these places so if we add that they are in Hell it's speculation. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 16:35, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

OK well i didn't think it would hurt to add them since there's no proof that they not in hell and they are evil and king piccolo in hell I mean where else could they go ? I still want Zarbon opinion on this (Spice boys (talk) 17:23, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

We can't add anyone as appearing in hell if they don't do so onscreen. It's safe to assume that Tambourine, Drum, and Cymbal are in hell, but since we do not see them onscreen after their demise, we can't add them on an article with definite sureness that they are amongst hell residents. In response to your question on GT canon, it is not canon. It is anime-only. I believe "battle of the gods" and "resurrection of f" are now canon to the manga as both are drawn from Toriyama's initial vision. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:26, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

thanks for your opinion and answers PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 09:57, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

also though king piccolo sons are listed in dbz hell encyclopedia (Spice boys (talk) 10:26, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

PrinceZarbon please answer i know Lucifer is probably in hell but do you think its a possibility that he was sent to heaven as punishment? because i heard that Lucifer was a demon king of the demon realm although im not sure if hes from the demon realm, then again Wouldn't bulma seen him in heaven? also do you think Ghastel in hell? (Spice boys (talk) 16:27, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

This applies to all characters. If they do not appear in hell... we can't confirm them to be there. Additionally, the reason why many of the movie characters and filler characters do not is due to the fact that animators chose not to place them in the initial rendering. It has nothing to do with whether they are or aren't in hell. Many characters who have died don't appear later in the series; this doesn't mean they aren't in hell or in heaven or vice versa. It just means the animators chose not to include them, primarily due to their limited appearance, non-canon appearance, or just the fact that they were movie characters and did not appear in the series run. These are all animation choices, not a grounds for which we follow their final resting place. Lucifer is a movie character. So is Ghastel. Both were inherently created for the "Princess" movie and killed off in the same flick. This is why they aren't mentioned in other DB canon. The same can be said about all the other DB movie-verse villains. The only recurring villains from the movies that I can think of are Garlic Junior, Cooler's squad and Cooler himself because they were slightly more popular. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:02, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

i know we can't add them i accept that but that's not why im asking i still want your opinion on who you think is in hell, i know you said you believe Lucifer in hell but i was having doubts because i heard Lucifer was a king Demon of the Demon realm and you know Dabura was one sent to heaven, so please answer my questions i will be very grateful do you think Lucifer is definitely in hell and not sent to heaven as a punishment I'm sorry for asking about Lucifer again but i want you to get rid of my doubts and do you think Ghastel in hell? Btw its my birthday today not trying to take advantage just letting you know (Spice boys (talk) 09:55, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Since we know we can't add them... I think that Lucifer is in hell; regardless of being a demonic entity, he's not the canon King of Demons as Dabura is. So he's likely in hell along with Ghastel. There's also Shula who rules the demon realm gateway. He'd likely go to hell if he were eliminated as well. That's my opinion. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:58, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

well he does look like vampire thanks PrinceZarbon very much for your opinion and i agree (Spice boys (talk) 20:37, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

PrinceZarbon please answer why was piccolo able to go to king kai planet was it because he sacrifice his life for gohan? (Spice boys (talk) 00:39, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, as Kami described it, Piccolo had released the hatred from his heart ever since he had began to train Gohan, which resulted in his vengeance to be relinquished and he wasn't satisfied by just eliminating Goku along with Raditz, which added to his transition to the "good guy" side. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:42, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 10:11, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

PrinceZarbon please answer do you think king vegeat and his crew went to hell? and do you think Bardock crew like fasha went to hell? im asking because im unsure how Evil they are (Spice boys (talk) 01:14, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

The case of King Vegeta is a tricky equation as he's much like Paragus. He also spent his life committing numerous crimes and was eventually executed by Frieza. This didn't make him a good person regardless of his actions. The same can be said about the majority of the Saiyan warriors. They primarily conquered and destroyed numerous lives. Just because they served Frieza not knowing their own fate until their eventual demise doesn't make them heroes. I think they all went to hell, but this is my take on the matter. I have to make an exception with Bardock. I think he not only stood up against Frieza, but also attempted to sacrifice himself to save others. When sent back in the time loop, he even attempted to protect some basic inhabitants from Chilled; so maybe Bardock didn't go to hell, but I can't be certain as he did spend the majority of his life as a warrior. If any of them was spared from hell, it would have to be Bardock by my speculation. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:29, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 02:07, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Forum update

I think it's time for use to switch to the newer forums. These forums are easier to navigate, messages don't need to be signed, can be easily organized, closed, and a thread can be highlighted for everyone on the wiki to see. Switching will not delete the old forum, but archive all the messages to be seen later. — A (tc) 18:16, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

PZ, I looked over these and I'm okay with it if you are. I thought you should be involved since this will prevent future editing on existing forums. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:58, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
Is there a way to maintain some of the most active forums and their history without deleting them because they have a tremendous amount of member posts...? If we want to move to a new service or style for the forums in general, we need to maintain the following forums or convert them into archive format first or transfer them somehow as they have heavy contribution:

Lets work this out first before converting anything. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:40, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

They won't be deleted, only archived. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 22:49, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
Here's what it looks like.A (tc) 23:02, July 6, 2015 (UTC)


Hey Zarbon! Could you please make a page for Explosive Assault from Xenoverse? I Love that Attack! Billybob125 (talk) 06:29, July 28, 2015 (UTC)


How come I can't edit discussions, on posts? Have I been blocked? If so why? Very seldomly get on here but have a couple of topics I want to discuss, but it says I do not have permission, because the posts are all protected from editing. It told me this when I tried to make my own topic. Would appreciate a response soon thank you. ~ DKEUE363 (talk)

You are not currently blocked. It is more than likely that some discussions are out-dated or simply archived which means you can't post in those specific ones. This is common with older discussions as we archive them allowing for new ones to be made and avoid clutter in general. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 07:14, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

question About Vegeta respect

PrinceZarbon im pretty sure i see either  Ginyu or cui  on the Left not far from king cold when Babidi saids thats right im the great wizard Babidi, my question is it ginyu or cui? (Spice boys (talk) 16:34, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Neither. It's one of Appule's race or Appule. The characters present at that scene are Frieza, Cell, King Cold, Appule [or race], Guldo, Jeice, Burter, Recoome, Dr. Gero, Goz, Mez, and numerous random hell demons. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:13, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 20:32, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

question about piccolo?

PrinceZarbon please Answer how come when someone is Killed by piccolo jr they Don't get sent to limbo? (Spice boys (talk) 00:02, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

When was someone killed by Piccolo and not sent to hell? The only times Piccolo killed anyone was Raditz, Sansho [Garlic Junior movie], Wings [Lord Slug movie], Salza, Neiz, Doore, and the Saibaman, all of which were evidently in the slew of escaping villains and hell residents. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:10, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

i think you misunderstood my question, i know they all are sent to hell a part from Goku who was Killed by piccolo to get rid of Raditz but my question is why Didn't they go to limbo instead of hell? because anyone who is Killed by king piccolo and his offsprings are sent to limbo but not anyone who is Killed by piccolo jr why? (Spice boys (talk) 18:51, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

That's possibly just an instrument of writing that was changed along the way in order to maintain congruence with everyone else killed in the series after that point. Many things were altered to maintain this format. Toriyama also retcons a few things here and there to better fit the story implementation. Also, much of what is said in the dialogue about being trapped in "limbo" may also be a metaphor. Characters such as Master Roshi and Elder Kai use such metaphors in their basic speech to convey stronger emotion. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:45, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

ok Thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 17:54, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

is pikkon canon?

PrinceZarbon please in your opinion do you think pikkon canon? (Spice boys (talk) 21:07, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

please Answer PrinceZarbon is pikkon canon? (Spice boys (talk) 22:55, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Pikkon is not in the Dragon Ball manga so he is not canon to the original story. He is only canon to the anime run and was also not present in the Dragon Ball Kai variation, so it's obvious he is not canon to the manga. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:54, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks PrinceZarbon ive never read manga (Spice boys (talk) 16:58, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Your power levels list

I apologize to come off as demeaning, but I feel like your power level lists are all grossly farfetched, and should be revaluated. If you go into the comments section of your LSS power levels page, you'll see I provided evidence to these claims that also seriously poke a hole in all of your estimates. Please take a look. With my estimate, I have Whis at 270 billion. This number is surpassed by every Saiyan on the list I commented on. Please don't take offense, and hear me out sincerely. I feel like you'll come to an understanding. --Iar Sensei (talk) 14:52, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I don't have a power level list. If you are speaking about something in the forums or on the blogs, then they are the opinion of other users. If you are referring to a power level page on the wiki itself, then that article is almost always being re-evaluated. I've never actually argued for any of the power levels one way or another. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:46, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 My apologies. I was misdirected. Forgive me. Iar Sensei (talk) 02:34, October 8, 2015 (UTC)


PrinceZarbon please Answer do you think Guru and the Supreme Kais who were killed by Majin buu went to heaven after there deaths? (Spice boys (talk) 00:05, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

I've pondered that myself in the past, but I don't have a definite answer. I think Guru did as he mentioned fading involves passing and anyone who passes obviously goes to one or the other. The Supreme Kais and Grand Kais I am not certain about as they are the highest deities in their quadrants of the universe. Also, the one I'm most unsure about is the Grand Supreme Kai, who was absorbed by Majin Buu and gave him the fat presence and appearance. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:23, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 16:14, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

Portable Infoboxes and Why They Are Important

Please join your community on this thread. Portable Infoboxes  Your input is very important. Pinkachu@fandom (talk) 02:31, November 17, 2015 (UTC)


I own a DBZ website and i was wondering on a affiliation? Beyonder (talk) 00:11, November 19, 2015 (UTC)BeyonderGodOmnipotent

Sorry, this is the wikia, we don't have affiliation with any other websites aside from the official links for the Dragon Ball media and franchise. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:32, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

an old freind

hey im not sure if you got my other meg. but do you know luffy? if you do plz let me know --Leapord (talk) 19:23, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

Not sure to whom you are referring, but if this is in regard to the main character from OnePiece, then yes I know the character. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:44, December 24, 2015 (UTC)


PrinceZarbon please answer do you think Ninja Murasaki went to hell? (Spice boys (talk) 15:53, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

If we are to presume that he died, then yes he went to Hell. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:09, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

ok thanks PrinceZarbon (Spice boys (talk) 21:01, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

SuperHik72 (added section for organization)

who is founder hereEзекијел Блеф (talk) 19:51, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

The founder hasn't edited here in years, he won't be able to help with anything. Try talking to an active admin. I'd suggest 10X, our bureaucrat, he's friendly and has a lot of knowledge on the wiki. You could also ask me, but I'm not an admin so I wouldn't be able to help with anything that needs admin rights. Cheers. -- Final ChidoriTalk 20:35, March 7, 2016 (UTC) 
The founder of the wiki has not been active for quite some time. Feel free to ask me or any of my active admin comrades if you have a query. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:08, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

Splitting Articles

I posted the following in the forum and the talk page for the manual of style, but I wanted to also message an admin directly about this: With Dragon Ball Super's release, we've seen plenty of fillers from Dragon Ball Z no longer fitting into the timeline, the biggest being the Other World fillers with the villains in Hell, as well as GT. I think it's safe to say there are now two versions of this series, similar to Full Metal Alchemist and Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. I propose we do some sort of split in a similar vain to the current continuity and original continuity articles on where I'm an admin. The "original" in this case would be Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, and all the movies before Battle of Gods, and the "current" in this case would be Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Kai, and Dragon Ball Super as well as the newer movies. As of right now, articles are confusing due to the split between continuities and the fillers that go against Super. I myself get very confused when I look through articles to remind myself of things from older episodes and wanting to know what's actually canon. I think this is one of the best ways to fix this. Thoughts? Diamonddeath (talk) 20:08, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think we necessarily need to split the articles to signify the canon versus the non-canon. Canon in Dragon Ball isn't in context the same exact definitive chronology as seen in other franchise (as said Full Metal Alchemist vs Brotherhood and/or Hellsing Ultimate vs Hellsing original and the like). I believe we should include all data pertaining to each article to remain as such but regardless, push and pull up specific data in order to maintain that chronological continuity; however, we can't specify one dimension as canon and the other as non-canon as anything released of Dragon Ball material is canon to itself albeit not completely contributed by Toriyama himself. In order to avoid confusion though, I agree that the articles do need to be formatted in a more chronological method but not actually split up into separate articles. For example, we should place all the "Toriyama canon" material first and then move along to the other sub-sections on the same article and include the DBGT and DBZ filler beneath. That's the best way to incorporate all material on each article without actually splitting any of it up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:06, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

I want to inform you that a user has posted two pornographic video links in the forum disscussion called "Ideas about SSGSS and its variations and other things continued". Please take them down. Pseudo Super Saiyan Jake (talk) 03:40, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

I searched that forum but did not find the links. They may have already been removed. Thanks for bringing it up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:31, May 29, 2016 (UTC)


Hi PrinceZarbon. I've been trying to help make the dragon ball wiki a more acurate place. I've used kanzenshuu as a source for info. I was thinking if you could make me an admin so i could help improve the accuracy of the site —This unsigned comment was made by JCDom (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Welcome to the wiki, JCDom! Your efforts to make this place more accurate are appreciated. I'd recommend reading the Administrators page for information on how to gain admin rights, as you can't simply receive them by asking. In general, users who have been rule abiding, helpful, and well-liked by the community are promoted. If you're serious about becoming an administrator, I'd recommend reading and familiarizing the rules and Manual of Style as well. Hopefully that answers your question, PrinceZarbon hasn't been online in a few days so I thought I should help get you an answer quickly. Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) so people can distinguish your messages from others. -- Final ChidoriTalk 16:05, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
We do not acknowledge administrative rights by immediate approval. I'd encourage you to dedicate your time to applying your knowledge and making constructive and precise edits in order to strengthen your exemplary history editing here and keep an open mind. We maintain administrative rights for the future if we need aid in that regard, but as of yet, we are not currently looking for additional administrators. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:15, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

Slider Update

Hey, Zarbon. I'd like your opinion on this since you're one of the main admins who maintain/update the main page. Any critiques? Thank you. -- Final ChidoriTalk 23:34, June 17, 2016 (UTC)

My Username

Could you please change it to "The Golden Warrior"? WaffleGuy talk contrib 02:56, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

Admins can't change names, you'll have to submit your request to wikia over here and they'll change it for you as a one-time only deal (provided the name isn't already taken. -- Final ChidoriTalk 03:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

Zamasu question

Prince Zarbon? Couldn't picked a good name like that myself. Also i have done some edits to the Zamasu pages and hope you improved all four of them.

Zamasu (disambiguation)


Goku Black

And Future Zamasu

Dragon Ball Sagas Template

How can one edit the "Dragon Ball sagas" template? I noticed the wiki now seems to treat the Potaufeu Saga as part of the Universe 6 Saga, so I figured the template should be updated to reflect that. Diamonddeath (talk) 02:45, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I removed the potaufeu link from the template since you suggested it's a part of the Universe 6 saga. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:19, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Long Time Since We Last Talked

How have things been for Frieza's best Admiral? Have you been watching Gotham lately, I will say I'm liking Barnes for the same reasons I like Harvey Dent now, his role last night was incredible. Mad City has been a fun season so far, & we both still agree about the importance of beauty. Without the smallest scraps of true beauty to observe, life isn't worth living. Art in its many forms requires beauty & life needs more of it. Anyway it feels nice to talk to you about stuff again Prince Zarbon. WaterKirby1994 (talk) 15:09, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

Hey mate, I've been preoccupied with the amv project which I don't really know how to share for more views: here and here but aside from that, I've seen Gotham s1 and haven't watched Gotham s2 yet. Aside from Two-Face being my favorite DC character, my second-favorites are Joker and Riddler. Two-Face is the representation of Justice & Chance whilst Joker is the persona of Chaos & Competition, and Riddler the Conundrum & Question. The rest of the villains are single-layered and don't have as much depth as these three constitute. I've found Mr. Freeze to be a favorite of mine in the past due to his relationship with his wife as seen in the animated series, but his role and anguish is very limited to that story. The concept of Two-Face is my absolute favorite as the sides of the coin reflecting the scarred and bitter persona and the handsome and justifiable dynamic make it the most moral character and the fallen white knight of Gotham makes it even more amazing. I also watched Daredevil s1 and haven't seen s2 yet, but I have a feeling I will be liking s1 more anyway. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:15, November 8, 2016 (UTC)
Season 3 of Gotham is amazing, there are even more dynamics such as Law Without Rules (a trait that applies to Jim Gordon throughout the series), as well as that Freeze is in the 2nd Half of Season 2, which seems to follow the usual formula for him. Then there is Galavan who is the main villain in Season2A with an epic role in the 2nd half, & I think you will like him considering how you like villains dying. Also keep in mind that some characters come back after dying in Season 2 of Gotham. I will say that there is way too much uglyness in American Society these days, much to my frustration. People choose to wear trashy clothing where I live, which is completely alien to me in idea Zarbon. Far too many Americans these days are completely unprofessional, while I prefer to wear a tie to work each day, which kind of gets frustrating. Well hopefully things are going well for Frieza's coolest admiral.WaterKirby1994 (talk) 02:32, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
Sorry if I went too far yesterday Admiral Zarbon. WaterKirby1994 (talk) 22:42, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
I started watching s2 of Gotham a few days ago. I don't like that they named that stupid dude Zaardon and Gordon spells his name Zardon, the one who busts out the remainder of the psychos from jail as the name sounds too much like Zarbon. But then again, so does king Zarkon from voltron. To me, the top three DC villains are Two-Face, Joker, and Riddler in that order for moral complexity and plot device usage as well as the symbolism. Just asking, do you know a way to better share the aforementioned videos I made? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:06, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the intrusion, but have you tried making a Reddit post? The Dragon Ball subreddit would be a pretty nice place to post it, as would a subreddit like /r/AMV. Great work on the videos, by the way. -- Final ChidoriTalk 20:33, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about the late reply, it's been this really busy month Prince Zarbon. I will say that if you hang in with Gotham Season 2, the 2nd half really makes up for the unlikable aspects of the 1st half. As for Voltron I really couldn't get into it, & yeah I admit it sucks when someone shares a name with an excellent character & isn't nearly as good as that character. Hopefully you have had some success with your video sharing problem over the past month & it's always nice to have conversations with you Admiral Zarbon. WaterKirby1994 (talk) 22:07, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

I finished watching S2 of Gotham. I actually thought it was very nice in some aspects but still had some stupid plots that did not interest me, such as the Court of Owls... I actually hate the whole cult stuff and I find the Court of Owls along with anything that has to do with Ra's Al Ghul to be very boring. I never liked any of that stuff in the comics or the shows. The best things to me about S2 were of course The Riddler and then Jerome Valeska who represented the original Joker. These are the types of characters I highly prefer to the likes of cults and clans. Hoping to see them flesh out Harvey Dent the same way they did Riddler. My least favorite scene in the whole season was the bazooka takedown of Azrael. That was so poor and camp it was funny and stupid and that is the kind of stupid cartoony moments that ruin a show for me. Actually, now that I think about it, that was the most camp scene and was so random and idiotic it was like rubbing out this Azrael fellow cause they ran out of ways to kill him. It felt so over the top and poorly written. After that being said, I did very much like Hugo Strange and his laboratory business. That was conducted well. He's more the type of character I enjoy. But I did not enjoy the cult attached to Theo Galavan nor did I enjoy the Court of Owls; both concepts failed to me in comparison to the whole Maniax crime spree. Riddler takes the cake in the season to me with the scene he gets caught and Jerome was an amazing guest star; he even stabbed his dad clean through the eye, my favorite method of execution in all tv and film. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:28, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Personally I found stabbing/impaling through the chest as my favorite form of character's dying, & prefer the crushed to death concept (Frieza telekinetically did that to kill Krillin with enough force that he exploded). I found the freeze related deaths cooler in Gotham, & had a feeling you would like Professor Strange, he & Freeze were my favorite characters in the 2nd Season. Fish returning was also awesome, & the development for Penguin & Riddler was excellent. Fair warning is that there is much more Court of Owls in Season 3 than there was in Season 2. Well its always enjoyable to talk to Frieza's Ultimate Admiral, Prince Zarbon. WaterKirby1994 (talk) 21:15, December 14, 2016 (UTC)


Yo, who would I speak to about possibly getting my "fanon" affiliated with this mother wikia?

18px The Perverted Copy Wheel Eye of Justice 18px 22:52, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Response to the Response

I would definitely share it on Reddit, but one of /r/dbz's rules states that only the original creator of an AMV has permission to share it on there, presumably to stop people from stealing work. If you're still interested in posting there, making a Reddit account is fairly easy as it requires no email adress. It's just about 10 seconds to input a username/password and the account is made. It could also be shared on the Dragon Ball Wiki facebook account, though I'm not exactly sure who runs that anymore and it's been inactive for quite a while the last time I've checked. I'll try asking some friends in DBZ groups if they can share it around, but other than that I don't have any other ideas. -- Final ChidoriTalk 03:35, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

okay, any help is highly appreciated. thanks in advance if you can share it on dbz groups and ask some friends; all help is appreciated. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 08:29, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

Chat question

dude i need to ask how did you do the Chat Options for here i wanna get them on my wikia (if youre 18 you can join it if you want but just warning you it gets really adult) KTEfan1998 (talk) 17:18, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not responsible for the chat functions, they are an addendum to the wikia layout. Maybe if you start a wikia, you need to make sure the settings allow the chat function capability. The chat, blogs, etc. are the areas I use least. You might want to check here: Link 1 and here: Link 2- Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:26, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

Main Page

Hey there, PZ. You've contributed a ton to the main page, so I'd value hearing your opinion on this list of proposed changes to the main page if you're available. Thank you. — Final ChidoriTalk 02:33, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

I gave my opinion on the matter. I am highly against the removal of supporting cast members but I am fine with the addition of others. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:46, January 6, 2017 (UTC)


Long time no speak Prince Zarbon, *kneels* how have you been? Anyways i was wanting to ask you why havent you dressed up as any more characters? --VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 19:18, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hey mate. I haven't had time although I have gone to a few conventions in the past three years. I was dressed as numerous other characters but they weren't from the Dragon Ball franchise. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:46, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Interesting, Id love to go to a convention sometime ive still never been. What are they like in person? Ive only watched videos. If you where to dress up as another DB character who would you have in mind? So far the Salza one is my favorite. Lol what was ur favorite to play/be? VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 22:24, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Well, I would still prefer to complete the remainder of the handsome elites, some of which include Angira, Kogu, and Spice. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:33, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

Hey PZ how do you feel about Whis? I thought hed be one of your favs considering he greatly resembles the likes of Zarbon and Spice. Even though he is a good guy he does have villiounes traits such as not caring when Beerus blows up a planet for not having good food. Hes one of my favorites these days. Whats your take on him? VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 09:55, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

All I like about him is his design and his attitude, but that's as far as I'll go. It's the actions that make the character for me in the long run and Whis just isn't evil so he doesn't make my list. I actually dislike Beerus strongly in terms of attitude and behavior and I am neutral for his design. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:57, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

I feel the exact sameway about Beerus, i do love Whis though. VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 22:10, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

New Saga Group and Ideas

With the latest Dragon Ball Super episode/saga having a new intro, I'm wondering if it might be possible to consider it a new Saga Group. Or perhaps we can make a new one even sooner than that. Since the multiverse and Gods seem to be sticking around for now, maybe we can split them up by major developments. In which case, the Gods of the Universe Group can be the God of Destruction Beerus and Golden Frieza sagas, and a Gods of the Multiverse can be for the rest. Or we can be a bit more specific in the names. Perhaps the first group can be the God of Destruction Group, since during the Golden Frieza saga, Beerus and Whis seem to still be very new and Beerus still remains somewhat of a threat, even Frieza fearing him. Or perhaps God of Destruction Beerus can be his own group, with Golden Frieza and Universe 6 being a group about Goku and Vegeta training under Whis. Perhaps an Angel Training Group or something similar. Then maybe "Future" Trunks and Universe Survival can be in some sort of group referring to larger threats to the multiverse such as a Multiversal Peril Group. These are all different ideas, but I think it could potentially work out. Also, It might be better to organize the Sagas infobox to be in chronological order. Whether or not GT is no longer canon, it still takes place years after Super. Any thoughts on this? Diamonddeath (talk) 04:50, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

I personally wouldn't rename any of the sagas or sub-sagas by preference. I'd go by whatever the Japanese version is currently calling them until there are other sub-saga breakdowns officially released in the English version. Remember that there are only 3 or 4 sagas of DBZ in Japanese version but by the end of the English version, there were 16. I'd just allow the sagas to finish airing before giving any of them titles in order to avoid being unprofessional or work-in-progress in terms of formatting. However, when it comes to the chronological ordering of these sagas, yes I agree that Super should be fitted prior to the events of GT. Please bring this up with my fellow administrators and see if they concur. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:07, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

We are already making it known in the Saga infobox's that the Super Sagas come before GT and Peaceful World Saga, since as of right now Super takes place in the 10 year gap.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  00:16,2/7/2017 

Interesting, it looks as if someone did indeed separate the sagas. Still, even though it is mentioned that it takes place before GT, I think it should be placed before GT in the sagas info box. Diamonddeath (talk) 01:38, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

Second DragonBall wikia

Found a copycat wikia:

I left a comment in regards to this. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:48, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

can you rename this image

Frieza is spelled wrong and it needs to be in capitals

Frieza's Latest Appearance

Hopefully you're ok after how Super just had Frieza team up with the Z-Fighters. The 1 thing you said you didn't like happening to villains has happened to 1 of your favorite villains, I thought about you when I read that & learned it wasn't a joke. Do you want to simply dismiss Super as NonCanon so you can still like Frieza? Or have you lost your love of Frieza, Prince Zarbon? Well GT & Super are completely different timelines so you always can consider GT the canon sequel to Z. WaterKirby1994 (talk) 03:30, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't consider either the complete canon; GT nor Super because neither is completely the brainchild of Toriyama. Both were derived from the minds of others with the assistance of Toriyama at a secondary level. When it comes to the Super show, I enjoyed episode 19 due to the silhouettes of Zarbon and Dodoria being shown; that was the best type of cameo to be had. Episode 20 was just amazing because of how Frieza defended Zarbon and Dodoria and put down Tagoma. I highly enjoyed the fact that he held them in the highest regard. To quote Sorbet's idiotic statement: "Tagoma's been an outstanding warrior under my command, sir. I would dare say that he rivals even Zarbon or Dodoria at their peaks." After blasting at Tagoma, Frieza quickly followed an amazing response: "You should have held your tongue. You compare this insignificant nothing to Zarbon and Dodoria? Was that a joke? Ha! Either you brought the most cowardly of all my troops to my welcoming party, or the Frieza Force has become woefully faint of heart. How do you expect us to run an empire that strikes fear across the galaxies while we're cowering from a handful of Saiyan garbage!" That quote alone made Dragon Ball Super worthwhile. He even defended the honor of Zarbon and Dodoria over his own father, King Cold; whom he didn't mind leaving for dead. What I'm trying to say is that power means absolutely nothing when it comes to my mind-set. I look at Zarbon and Dodoria as the best due to their usage as devices; they were the only other ones as sinister and evil as Frieza himself in the Dragon Ball story and this is what Frieza meant. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:21, June 13, 2017 (UTC)


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