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Archive 1 February, 2009 - June, 2009
Archive 2 June, 2009 - September, 2009


I have archived my talk page. Feel free to ask any questions. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:22, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

'Bout time, lol. I got lost on the last one for 4 days. Had to call the fire dept to get me out. True story. -- 04:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Heh! Ye sure as heck's gat a knack fer makin' 'dem jokes as much as ye gat the 'bility ta spot 'em, ay mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Troublemaker on the Goku Page

Hey PZ, this guy keeps removing content from the Goku page, specifically a picture of Gohan finding Goku as a small child. I have repeatedly asked him to use edit summaries and/or discussion pages, both on the history on the page and on his talk page, and he has not. I have asked him to explain to me personally why he keeps removing the content, and he has not. I let him know that I am reporting him to an admin, so please help me sort this out. Thanks. -- 15:05, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

The Goku article is currently a mess in terms of the images. Much of the material is not properly formatted and still needs attention. The correct formatting is left, right, left, right, etc. for all the images and at the start of each paragraph notation in relation to all articles. I will look at this action, however, and see if it's a major offense. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:08, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It wasn't just the removal that was bugging me, but also the way that the user was inappropriately refusing to saying why, and stubbornly kept doing the same thing. Oh well, hopefully she/he will read some of the policies upon coming back. -- 15:25, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Hello :)

Hello, Im Yeoddots

As may notice I'm part of the membor of Dragon Ball Wikipedia. I 've been trying to update the family tree on Valese and it keeps on deleting Valese as part of Goku's Family mostly relationship with Goten as her boyfriend but it could possible be the husband of Goten because since Dragon Ball GT ended after defeating Omega Shenron. Then 100 years later, she could have some realtionship with Goku Jr. cause he's now great-grandnephew of Goten maybe Great grandaunt of Valese. So can you please stop deleting the family tree of Valese , O.K. Thank You.

Hello PrinceZarbon.

I'm not so good to english, because I come from Denmark, but I will try: I have a question, you must answer me. Dragon Ball GT have only 2 seasons. Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z have more. So.. Will there come more GT Series (Season 3 and 4 ...), or not?

No, there's no series or seasons after GT season 2, that's the end. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:34, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Yo Prince Zarbon

I want leave my top 10 least favourite moments etc but I don't know how, do you think you can lend me a hand?

that yo prince zarbon was me sorry new to this TienGinyu 19:51, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I guess you can post it here and I will transfer it in proper formatting to the designated page. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:34, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Cheers Prince Zarbon, I hope I don't mess anything up. Heres my list: TienGinyu 13:45, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

I formatted and transferred your list to the forum page. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:46, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Cheers dude thanks very much its realy cool seeing my list there 11:17, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

TienGinyu 11:18, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

a wish to the eternal dragon

On the a wish to the eternal dragon page i have noticed there is a picture covering the cast list. Im not sure if its just my computer but could you check out just in case as ive noticed the rules ask us not to move pictures. Thanks Ssj5vegeta 10:52, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

That article is improperly formatted. I will have to fix it along with many of the episode articles. I will get to it after I complete some other episodes I am working on completing. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:01, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Hey Dude

Hi Prince, funny, that's what everyone calls my little brother. Anyway, I'm Blitz. Dude I just wanted to ask you why there were so many plot holes in GT. Like, why didn't Gohan turn into an SS4, when Goku & Vegeta could. I mean seriously dude, Gohan was a the hero of the Cell & Garlic Junior Sagas. Why was his role so insignificant in GT? It doesn't make sense. How could Toriyama allow this? reply dude.

The same reason why Gohan was never the primary character. Gohan appeared in Saiyan saga. Goku is the primary character of the DB/DBZDBGT series. There are certain characters who are even more important throughout the entire series... likely Piccolo. Gohan is probably one of the top 5 most important; also turning super saiyan 4 doesn't make one a primary character, it's just a part of storyline development for Vegeta. Vegeta is probably the 6th most important character in the series run. It doesn't make a difference who progresses to what form. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:06, September 3, 2009 (UTC)


The Dragonball online page at wikipedia has been vandalized by some who keeps adding their community to the external links page and the site just creates fake ids for the game.(you do know thw beta is starting this emptember right?) In short advertisement. Wikipedia has blocked his ip adress so he next logic choice is this site. I ask that the url be block frim being able to be addable to this wiki.Saimaroimaru 22:45, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

We don't really have anything to do with that site (the one you mentioned)... so I'd need you to point out any inferences where the site is actually linked in order for me to remove it, otherwise, it can't pose a threat. Vandalism is easily fixed. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:15, September 4, 2009 (UTC)


James-50 has been re-inserting totally irrelevant and false trivia on Android 13. He's now added it three times within a very short amount of time, and I don't want to edit war with him, since I've already reverted it twice. Care to intervene? -- 02:19, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Note: An IP has just attempted to delete this message, apparently because they don't want you to read it. -- 02:23, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
The IP, who James-50 has identified as himself, has deleted his edit on the Android 13 page, which no longer needs attention. -- 02:26, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
James-50 has a history of inappropriate edits, which can sometimes be classified as vandalism. If in the future you do stumble upon more chaotic reversions on his part, be sure to bring them up mate, as I've found them awkward and improper as well. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:24, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Nice to meet you.

Cute cosplay pics. :) Little Acorn 03:38, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx mate. They are my favorite characters, after all. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:22, September 7, 2009 (UTC)


I wouldn't say just a little, more like a lot, a real lot. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:26, September 7, 2009 (UTC)



I wouldn't say everyone, just about a hundred villains only. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:28, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

How to edit names of DBZ episodes

Hey I just joined this wiki.

I was rewatching the Saiyan/Vegeta Saga today when I noticed some of the episode names near the end of that saga on this site's episode list are incorrect. I clicked the "edit page" button to change them but I could only see how to change the names of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT episodes, not the Dragon Ball Z episodes. All that appeared for DBZ was the headings of the sagas. How can I right this wrong?

-Thanks —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

And (i'm the guy who put the post about episode editing) my user name is Darth Vegeta if that helps anything —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Why don't you specify the titles and changes you'd like made, and I'll see if they are worthwhile, because the episodes are accurately titled for the most part. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:47, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'll write them on here tomorrow afternoon - I need to get to bed now. i will say that it was an oddly large number of episodes to be different. The source I'm using for what I think the episodes should be is a VHS collection purchased around the fall of the year 2000. I have the Saiyan Saga, Namek Saga, and Frieza Saga. i haven't checked everything out but the differences I noticed immediately were at the end of the Saiyan Saga and the beginning of the Namek Saga. I'll cross check the rest of what I have tomorrow but this makes me wonder: is it possible the episodes were somehow named differently in my collection's release? The names in my collection also correspond to a site where one can watch DB, DBZ, and DBGT Watch Dragon (you have to click on the episode number for the name to come up). Also shown at Dragon Ball Z blogspot (hover the mouse over the episode numbers at the bottom).

DarthVegeta 05:14, September 8, 2009 (UTC)DarthVegeta

Just so you know, the edited versions were on VHS, and of course they were pioneer releases, of which those episodes have separate and different titles since they are the edited version. But those titles are also available here as well. For example, the uncut funimation releases for the first saga is called Vegeta Saga, while it is called Saiyan saga in the edited dub. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:17, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Bulla Page

Hey, I've been having some trouble with a user on the Bulla page. Said user keeps moving pics around incorrectly, by which i mean putting DBZ pics in the GT section, putting pictures overlapping with titles, etc. I talked to the user on his/her talk page, but received only a poorly worded request for me to leave them alone. Care to have a talk with the user? -- 23:22, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

In scenarios like this, a ban would be in order. The next time the user ignores proper formatting for their own personal agenda, I'll temp ban them and leave a warning. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:42, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

K thanks. Hopefully they'll see reason, but if not, I'll let you know. -- 23:45, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx mate. I've left a warning on their talk as it seems the proper and cordial thing to do. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:48, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Well, the user didn't listen, and has once again incorrectly formatted the Bulla page. -- 23:51, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Then the user can take a break. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:59, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I think that was a good call. Thanks for the help. -- 00:06, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Always welcome, dear comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:07, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Question, when you Banned this user how come i Lost the ability to edit (I.e. I Was banned), I have no relation to this Account.How long does their ban last? i Would REALLY like to edit on My Account again.. -- Silver Sinspawn

Never Mind, I seem to have the ability to edit back Now O.O --Silver Sinspawn 09:35, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

In relation to trivia

Please don't sink this site to wikipedia's level. Wikipedia nowadays sees everything as either extraneous details or original research. Pretty soon the entire site's gonna be erased. This site needs as much info as it can get or else DBZ will die, if it hasn't already been killed by the redub. Ghostkaiba297 02:56, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what you're referring to exactly, but when it comes to trivia, it needs to be factual material, not fan-made power comparisons. This is, after all, an encyclopedic resource, not a fansite. The type of gibberish that is being removed is, for example: "Broly is the most powerful character in the universe because he destroys galaxies." and this is what we would consider useless opinion. What we want to do is maintain a factual resource and proper article formatting. The very comparison with wikipedia is a shame, since wikipedia has absolutely nothing and barely even lists characters. They've gone as far as to delete 95% of the characters, and fuse the rest into one list, and only maintain 6 or so articles altogether, so that comparison is downright out of place and quite frankly, uncalled for. However, we must try to maintain an accurate resource, which means all useless opinion must be removed from the articles. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:46, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

I Was Wondering

Who is stronger when they meet in Dragon Ball, Mutaito or Goku? Mutaito apparently csn't beat King Piccolo in the villain's youth, whereas Goku does. But when Goku faces Mutaito in their short match, Goku seems majorly outclassed.

Oh, and why do Roshi and Shen wear sunglasses all the time? Any thoughts? -- 05:02, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Roshi HAS taken his glasses off before... --Silver Sinspawn

Sunglasses seem to deal with style. It would be speculation for me to assume which is stronger, the safe bet would be to go with Goku, just because we never truly see Mutaito fight it out; he uses the Mafuba technique but that's all I truly remember in terms of his fighting. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:34, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

I know he takes them off occasionally, I was using hyperbole. Style makes sense, but I was just wondering if there was some definitive advantage or something. Guess not, whatever. Btw, I nominated a couple pages for deletion, so take a look when you get a chance. -- 04:16, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well He only takes them of in serious times (Eg. world Tournaments) So we could assume the glasses are so nobody can see Where he's looking (So To help him be a pervert) --Silver Sinspawn 04:42, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

He also uses the glasses to block a solar flare attack null and void. Goku snatches them and uses them to block one of Tien's maneuvers. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:03, September 11, 2009 (UTC)


I would have added those to his page initially but you told me about not using those breaks on pages, about it not being needed. I'll probably use them in those types of situations now. SuperTron500 16:38, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

The only time line breaks are needed is when they are in between entire sections (one line break per paragraph differential). But not ten line breaks in the beginning of an article and ten in the end which are useless. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:40, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Duck Dodgers refered DBZ

Hey, when I watched Duck Dodgers on TV a few years ago, The Cadet told Dodgers that the villagers went home to see Dragon Ball. I know its too insufficient since they referred to the Dragon Ball Franchise.-SilverPlaqueVII

That's unimportant like the others-James-50


Prince Zarbon can i add Funimation music to this site?

No, video and youtube links (music or otherwise) are not allowed. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:52, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Stuff to delete

Who's Got My Balls?! --Silver Sinspawn 02:51, September 13, 2009 (UTC) and Oricon --Silver Sinspawn 02:55, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. I'll try my best to delete useless gibberish of that nature as quick as possible. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:01, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Has it been a week already?

So, just got off his block period, and has immediately resumed the same vandalism he was blocked for a week and a half ago. -- 05:23, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Doubled the block. Next time it will be worse if it happens again. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:53, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Funny Quote

Lol, sorry but I just saw this one and it cracked me up.

After Piccolo blasts a hole in Goku, Tien says: "Coward, if you hurt him, you'll answer to me!"

Lol, if? I don't know what Tien's idea of hurting him is, but I guess blowing holes in him didn't count :-P -- 07:54, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Did my e-mail find its way to your inbox?

Hiya. I just wanted to check and see if you'd gotten the e-mail I sent out a few weeks ago. If not, let me know and I can go ahead and resend it. -- Nonoitall talk contr 09:19, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't received it. Maybe you should resend it. What's this in regards to mate? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:34, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
Got your message and resent mine. :-) No big deal, just a question about another user I thought would be better discussed away from public view. Thanks! -- Nonoitall talk contr 20:10, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

yamcha page

this is "The Original Super Sayain" Sept 14

Hey I was reading the Yamcha page and I came across this:

Due to his injuries, Yamcha spends the majority of the following the King Piccolo Saga on the sidelines. He is powerless to intervene as first Krillin, followed by Goku, and then Master Roshi and Chiaotzu are killed by the King Piccolo.

Did King Piccolo really kill Goku? And if so, how?

P.S. How do you sign your post using the four tildes?—This unsigned comment was made by The Original Super Sayain (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time! The Original Super Sayain 21:42, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, you are right, and I've corrected the page. Goku is badly beaten by King Piccolo during that saga, but not killed. To sign your posts, simply put four tildes after your message. You will not see the signature until after you save the page (or preview). For example:
I think Dragon Ball is neat. ~~~~
I think Dragon Ball is neat. -- 00:38, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


Why isn't Shula a tournament fighter? I could have sworn there was some kind of mini-tournament thing going on when Goku arrives in the demon world and fights him. It's not like it's a big deal because i could be wrong, i just seem to remember him fighting Goku in an arena of some kind. SuperTron500 talk 03:40, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

He isn't a tournament fighter. He's a king of sorts. Goku approached the demon world. Goku challenged Shula, Shula attacked him. It wasn't a tournament fight, nor was it a tournament. It was just a challenge for which Shula successfully nailed Goku once. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:42, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
I suppose since there was no prize it doesn't count as a tournament. I remember an arena though, so it must have been for fun or something. SuperTron500 talk 04:05, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

The demons fight for Shula's amusement. Goku beats one, then challenges Shula. Goku defeats Shula, and is thus able to remove Shula's sword from its position holding the door to Demon Land open. The stage is there for random fights, which amuse Shula. -- 04:14, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, Shula's amusement where tons of warriors fight each other in random chaos doesn't account for a tournament. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:34, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Bansho Fan

Does the Bansho Fan already have a page? I looked and couldn't find one, but I just wanted to double-check before making one. -- 04:20, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it already has an article. I just had to fix the redirect. Here it is mate: Bansho Fan - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:41, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Oh okay, I'm glad I checked : ) -- 06:19, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


Now that Dragon Ball Season 1 is out, you can add it too the news.--Jeffman13 21:07, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Gotcha mate. Thanx. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:34, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Page for Deletion

List of Characters Special Speeches -- 04:54, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:02, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Delete Please

Darkness Eye Beam --Silver Sinspawn 07:47, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx, comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 10:44, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Vegeta Page

Hey, I was just wondering where that info about Toriyama came from. It had a [citation needed] note on the Piccolo page for awhile, so I removed it from there, assuming it was a rumor. Is there a quote or something we can reference for that? -- 02:36, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure this was stated, though I can't locate it right now. I even brought it up on the forum itself for the Toriyama section I opened so someone might locate the source. However, it holds accuracy to the extent that Piccolo is Toriyama's favorite character and Vegeta is his least favorite out of the primary people. We need sources for the Vegeta implication, but I can't locate it. For the Piccolo, it has been stated frequently by him that he's his favorite. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:43, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'll take your word for it since you seem so knowledgeable about his sort of thing. I'm just quick to remove things like that about the real world without references, compared to in-universe info that can be verified by reading/watching. -- 06:01, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Please just bring it up prior to removing anything of that nature. Much of the time, it is accurate; for instance Tori's statements about his favorites being Piccolo and Hercule have been confirmed. What seriously needs to be removed is all speculation, such as "this guy is the strongest breed of species in the universe because" or "this guy would have been the strongest because" or "that guy would have been living here because" or "this guy may be spawned from because" or "this guy may have dna from that person too because", stuff of that nature is what needs to be removed in all instances. all speculation, what-if, and opinionated material needs to be removed. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:25, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


If what's possible doesn't account for trivia or whatever, theres other pages you should probably fix this. I don't remember them off-hand but i'll sure send them to you as i find them again. SuperTron500 talk 05:38, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please do so. All instances of possibility/speculation and what if scenarios don't account for trivia. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:44, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
Piano's page has something in the trivia section about him being the most mutated offspring, and the Tritek war's page has speculation about it being the planet the Saiyans were in the 4th episode of DBZ. So many of these around, i guess i never realized it was wrong befor now. SuperTron500 talk 05:50, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
Those two I looked into. Any more just bring 'em up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:05, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Super Nameks?

I was reading the Super Namek page and it said that Piccolo(After fusing with Kame), the unnamed Namek, and Lord Slug were the only ones we know of that are Super Nameks. Is Guru not a Super Namek? He is as big as slug was. Also, on the Guru page it says that Guru Kami and Demon King Piccolo were the only ones who survived the climate shift.Was Slug born after the climate shift? He was pretty old when he first showed up. The Original Super Sayain 21:40, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

He's not a super namek. Super Namek is a transformation terminology, not a state of being... such as in the case of Guru, Kami, etc; they are elders and/or guardians, not super nameks. Lord Slug was a super namek. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


In episode 40 of Dragonball GT, during the scene with Goten in the arcade, he confronts a man with orange/red hair. This man looks and sounds just like the character from the show Yu Yu Hakusho named Kazuma Kuwabara. Kazuma Kuwabara is also voiced by Christopher Sabat who voices many dbz characters. They are also both very cocky. Could they be the same person? The Original Super Sayain 21:41, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

They are not the same person; although I know the guy acts and looks similar to Kuwabara. However, they are unrelated. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:55, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Plz Delete

Saiyaman, Coola No.256 (the latter because its a duplicate of the Magma page) --Silver Sinspawn 08:39, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

I don't remember a planet being named Magma. I went and deleted the one article, but I need you to clarify if Coola 256 is the proper title, because Magma just seems like a fake name. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:52, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

It was stated in the doore page,and the list of planets page, as both planets being where doore is from,and the planets original name was magma (Supposedly) and so that article has more info on it --Silver Sinspawn 22:06, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

In accordance with your wishes

Due to you saying that no movie characters are filler,i've deleted all filler categories from each original movie character (made for the movie), was i right to do so,or should it be changed back? --Silver Sinspawn 09:57, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

The moon

Hey I'm sure you're getting tired of me but I was wondering if there was a page about the moon yet. It has been blown up twice, impersonated, and has Monster Carrot and his men living on it. The Original Super Sayain 21:40, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

The moon has an article. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:45, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Icarus, and GT

About the filler,should i remove all GT characters from the list? and what about icarus, he was designed for the movie,but then featured in filler later,so do i delete him form the list? --Silver Sinspawn 22:08, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, all GT characters need to be removed from filler. And Icarus is not created in the series, his inception was in the movie-verse, therefore he's non-canon but not filler. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:44, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

So he shall be romeved from the list.What about Video game characters (e.g. Soba) ? --Silver Sinspawn 00:49, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Soba is non-canon but not filler. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:20, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

So all movie,GT,and Game characters are to be removed from the list...? --Silver Sinspawn 01:21, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, as none of them are filler. They are all non-canon. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:17, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Done.Anything else you want me to do? --Silver Sinspawn 04:00, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Well, thank you for what you've done. I assume there will be a necessary category in the future for all the non-canon characters who are not filler. Maybe "Non-canon characters" will have to be the proper titling for movie and GT characters. Thanks for fixing it for most of the characters though. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:13, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Page for Deletion

Dragon Ball Kai: Attack Of The Saiyans -- 10:23, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Done. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:37, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Goku's Age

Was Goku 11 or 12 during the Emperor Pilaf Saga? I know he was 12 during the 21st World Tournament, but i thought there was some time between events. SilverPlaqueVII has me under the impression he was possibly 12 at the start of Dragon Ball. SuperTron500 talk 23:06, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Please ask my comrade SSJGoku93 about Goku's age. He's more learned in terms of the protagonists' ages. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:37, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Delete this please

Knock (Because it is a duplicate of the page Nok) --Silver Sinspawn 23:52, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Done. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:37, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Filler Convo from Silver Sinspawn's Page (Con't.)

I'm glad you agree that non-manga also satisfies the origin-differentiation needs of the site. I think it's straightforwardness and lack of any ambiguity can help improve upon the ease of interpretation of the articles. -- 01:18, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes. All goodness, as long as there's some form of differentiation, then it's fine. Glad you understand mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:23, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

To Delete

[1] i have to put it in a full link,because otheriwse it would just add the catergory to the page --Silver Sinspawn 07:38, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

I give up.

Still, I can do this more often for my fan-art. I apologize I caused. SilverPlaqueVII 14:36, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

It's alright. You may remove it yourself or it will be removed systematically. If you don't want to remove them yourself, please notify me which articles you've added them to, and I will proceed to remove them. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:48, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

IP Block

Please block this user, as he has vandalized a user page, along with other pages. -- 23:18, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Also this user, who I presume to be the same vandal, but is a vandal in his/her own right anyway. -- 00:10, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
And one more, though this one only made one transgression. -- 00:49, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yet another vandal account: Haze Shenron. -- 01:00, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I took care of Haze Shenron.
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01:29, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
Many of these vandals operate in the same manner or are the same person. I've dealt with this scenario and multiple account abusers are very annoying. Thanks for the patience guys. It takes a lot of patience to deal with them. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:35, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yay teamwork! -- 01:37, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

As a matter of contact

Remember when i when i had my IP blocked for an unknown reason? Well, incase that happens again,or if you want to talk,do you have MSN? It could make some of our work faster too,if you have it --Silver Sinspawn 05:56, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

The first time you were blocked back in May wasn't for unknown reasons. It was for your continued disrespectful remarks. But that was quite a while ago and you've shown some improvement in terms of how you interact with other members. My msn is the same as my user name, Prince Zarbon (but with a space in the middle), but I'm not on all that much. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:51, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

No,i mean last month/early this month. Okay,whats the address? --Silver Sinspawn 07:15, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

I sent you a notification through msn. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:51, September 22, 2009 (UTC)


He wants his account and contributations removed i said no prob should i do it? just wanted your athoritey.--InoNOTHING 13:04, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

not really. you shouldn't get mixed up with another member's user pages or information. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:08, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Fine he just wants it removed since he doesn't want to be apart of Wiki anymore and i wanted to ask you first before i did anything.--InoNOTHING 13:12, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I understand. But we can't necessarily deactivate accounts once they're created. Just leave it as is, it's a lot of hassle removing info from members who want it removed. They can do it themselves if it matters that much to them, but admins can't deactivate accounts. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:20, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Right i'll keep that in mind for future refrence.--InoNOTHING 05:14, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

User Difficulties

I would like to report SS4 Gogeta for changing the content of the in-use image files, with no edit summaries or discussion, even after multiple warnings. -- 22:08, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Also, WikiUser99 for the same thing, most recently on File:Androids.jpg. -- 22:13, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

SS4 Gogeta not only changed the Bulma pic again, but also altered a Hercule pic, both of which I have reverted. I recommend action be taken. -- 02:38, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I concur with your recommendation dear comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:53, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

2 Cases of Vandalism

Both using explicit and inappropriate language on the Goku page. One is, and the other is Goku1995ftw. -- 13:47, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism has been improperly formatting pages repeatedly, and has admitted on my talk page that he/she is doing it on purpose, along with making a personal attack at me, which I have since reverted, since I didn't want profanity on my talk page. -- 19:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Which names to use?

Which are really the best names to use for the characters? English anime names, English manga names, or Japanese names?

Under our manual of style, we are operating under the English anime names; however the manga and Japanese names are listed within the character infoboxes to avoid confusion. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:42, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

How come?

Well, I was on the Top Hero page, and I noticed that the picture of Gohan was his alternate version. So I switched it to a pic of the present time-line Gohan, but it was changed back. Don't you think that a pic of the present timeline Gohan would be more apropriate?

Right, I didn't notice that. I will revert it back. The reason why it changed was because another edit had to be reverted and it was reverted along with it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:43, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :D

Huge Inconsistency

In King Kai's explanation of the origin of the Saiyans, it is implied that they were native to the planet Vegeta and didn't have the technology to reach other planets until after they defeated the Tuffles. This is very inconsistent with DBGT saying that they came from outside the planet, yet this wiki doesn't acknowledge this inconsistency. I even made acknowledgment of this on the DBGT page, but 10x Kamehameha deleted it. It deserves consideration.

An inconsistency of this nature should be stated in a trivia section for the appended article. It doesn't belong in the bio nor the story of the article though. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:48, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
I've added a note in the trivia section of the Planet Vegeta article. Please do not delete it. Furthermore there is a line aomewhere in the Japanese version of the anime where I think Frieza or one of the Frieza-related characters remarks about how Vegeta was named after the his planet, which would contradict the notion that King Vegeta named the planet after himself.


Hey pal, it's been a few days since I nominated the canonocity article for deletion, or more specifically a merge with the inconsistencies article. At least half the information simply lists inconsistencies, which are more appropriate on the page of that name. Let me know what you think about this. I'm not suggesting any content removal from the site, just a large-scale move to keep things organized. If you like it as is, then only an admin can remove deletion nominations anyway. Have a good one. -- 03:48, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Hey mate. Personally, I think the canonicity is not appended to the inconsistencies in and of themselves. It's actually a separate idea as inconsistencies are existent in all versions whereas canonicity is altered by versions. It shouldn't be merged, but that's just my thought on the matter. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:51, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Oh I totally agree with you. My issue with the canonocity article is that, currently, about 80% of it is just a long list of inconsistencies between the manga, the various TV series, and the movies. That part of it is what I think should be moved. -- 04:12, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the portions that are in relation to inconsistency should be moved mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:13, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

My Page

Hello PrinceZarbon. how do i put my picture on here? And also how do I take the deletion portion off my home page so I can redo the templates? -TreVegeta17

please don't create unnecessary templates. User pages are not supposed to have templates, and the ones that had been created were unnecessary to begin with, it's why they were deleted. About images... go to the "add image" bar next to "new page" at the left-hand side under "community". make sure to specify the image type and make sure it's a correct format (for example jpg). some images are deleted, make sure that it's proper. let me know if you may have any other questions. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:07, September 25, 2009 (UTC)


After a week off, has continued to vandalize pages. -- 20:27, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'll give him a longer one this time, but the third strikes an out for this fellow. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)


HEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!! I cant login! I dont know how to turn on cookies! I use Internet Explorer! No one will help me! You are my last hope Zarbon! HEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!! 21:01, September 25, 2009 (UTC) RexKai, partner in Encyclopedia Completion.

Well, I guess you can try using firefox or another internet provider. It's possible that your settings on your computer are the reason behind that mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:00, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
Nah, i fixed it. I am DoomKai now though. Please answer my post farther down. I would like some help researching those characters and making pages.

Important Information That will lead to Encyclopedia Completion From RexKai

Hello, im that guy that said "I cant login! how do i turn on cookies! I use Internet Explorer Please Help!!!!"

Anyway, I have gathered a list of characters from the anime series' Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and Dragonball GT that i have confirmed that are not in our site. My previous list was incorrect, and i would like to give you the correct, revised version of which 10x Kamehameha and I have begun research on. I would like to recruit your help in this, as I myself cannot login, and I need a thorough person, thus an administrator, to take my place. I will relay any information I collect to you. I am counting on you to help Kame' and me complete this encyclopedia, at least character wise.

I have come to the attention that we are missing the following: Panputt, Anjlla, Torble, Kllla, Maraikon, Shlela, Rozu, and Demetrius. Most of these characters, I discovered spectating and taking notes on characters listed WITH PROOF OF THIER EXISTANCE on videos of lists of characters not in the Budokai Tenkaichi Series.

I also read non-picture manga slides, though I must still check the manga characters of which are not in the encyclopedia. Yes, I am also referring to Neko Majin Z, although I do not consider most of it to be true, I do believe that some of it's characters do relate to the timeline, as all of the Z-Fighters appear in this particuler scene, which is a fight against Kuriza and his company.

These characters are Oujo, Ikeman, and Zankuku, of which killed the Z-Fighters. But, as rare as the manga is, I could not gather information to which whom was killed. I do know only Buu, Krillin, Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks survived the slaughter, up to and after the point the available information is hazy.

Also, another thing. Onion, one of the THREE illusion saiyans links to Scarfaces page. Please fix this problem, as Onion is an entirely different person.

And so, I have prepared a list of things to do for you. Things to Do:=> 1. Help us research.

2. Add pages for Panputt, Anjlla, Torble (No I am not referring to Vegeta's brother, I really am saying Torble), Kllla, Maraikon, Shlela, and Rozu (Rozu, I know is a name mentioned by Bardock, of whom I believe he is referring to the man he killed, saying "So (mumbles a hard name to understand, which I believe to be Rozu) is one of Frieza's elite...") and Demetrius (who's name is listed on the characters page, but does not have a page. He is also in the Bardock Special.

3. Clear Scarface's page of Onion rerouting, as he is not Onion, he is Scarface

4. Help us research into Oujo, Ikeman, and Zankuku.

5. If research is complete, create pages for Oujo, Ikeman, and Zankuku

6. Help us complete this great encyclopedia! Thanks Zarbon.

By the way, I am not trying to offend you by the way I am speaking, and do not want to bore you with the length of this message, but please consider it. I do need your help.

DoomKai 14:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC) DoomKai, God of Doom By the way, how do I make a signature?

All the characters you listed already have articles. The name spellings you wrote up are all inaccurate. For example, Panputt is Pamput, Angila, Torbie, Killa, Maraikoh, Sheila and there is no Rozu. Those are fictitious names. The Demetrious you speak of is an inconsequential background person who's name is only created for the english dub. There is no Oujo, Ikeman, and Zankuku, and the fights between Kuriza (if any) aren't from DBZ, they are from a comedic spinoff, Neko Majin. Please do not create or add these names to articles, as they have been removed before, and rightly so. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:36, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

roshi page

hi there zarbon, i'm relatively new to wiki but have been trying to make minor changes where i can, to clear things up.

I just wanted to point you in the direction of the Master Roshi page, it looks like the table got messed up, and i don't know the way to format it back to normal. Thanks for reading, and for keeping this site well kept! =]

Thanks for bringing that forward. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:38, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


Major vandalism today by -- 20:20, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx again. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:28, September 28, 2009 (UTC)


Is there anything wrong with adding when Cha-La Head-Cha-La was released on its page? SuperTron500 (talk) 01:05, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

The release date of the song? No, why would there be anything wrong with that? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:22, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Repeated Vandalism has continued to vandalize the Goku page by removing an informative image without using an edit summary, the discussion page, or giving cause in any other way. He has been blocked twice for doing this, with his second block having expired quite recently. -- 03:52, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Seems a perm ban is in order. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:07, September 29, 2009 (UTC)


have you ever been to this website? It has some info and a lot of pictures. Don't know if it helps any or not.

And here is a site with all of the episodes of all 3 shows plus movies and kai for free. The Original Super Sayain 21:46, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I have been to both those sites frequently. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:29, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Legendary Super Saiyan 3

Zarbon, I am one of the few people that have realized that the new form of Broly in Raging Blast is not Super Saiyan 3 but Legendary Super Saiyan 3. It looks JUST LIKE Legendary Super Saiyan except for no eyebrows and SS3 hair. So everytime I try to create a Legendary Super Saiyan 3 article it wont save it. Help. BrolytheLegend

Speculation is not included on this site. Unless you have more proof than just claiming something, please leave it out of the articles. Alternatively, feel free to talk about want you think the form might be called in the forum section. Thank you. -- 03:01, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

its not speculation. i'm just saying that its not ss3 broly in raging blast, its lss3BrolytheLegend

I'm just saying I am 100 ft. tall. Q.E.D.? -- 05:22, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

legendary super saiyan 3

Zarbon, I am one of the few people that have realized that the new form of Broly in Raging Blast is not Super Saiyan 3 but Legendary Super Saiyan 3. It looks JUST LIKE Legendary Super Saiyan except for no eyebrows and SS3 hair. So everytime I try to create a Legendary Super Saiyan 3 article it wont save it. Help

I can't help you because this is now becoming what appears to be rambling. It doesn't matter what it looks like, it's an SS3 form. It doesn't need an article for that. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:25, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
It is a SS3 form but you have to be specific. It's LEGENDARY Super Saiyan 3. Anybody can see that. Saying it's just SS3 is just like saying False SS is just SS. BrolytheLegend
It's all speculation. Until the game comes out and it's actual title is revealed in-game on the menu screen, we can't assume any names. Therefore, the best is to avoid all confusion and all speculation. Leave it be until the game is released. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:06, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Favourate character list

I've noticed your list seems to feature few (if any) Good guys guess you must like the villans more huh?--InoNOTHING 07:34, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I only like villains. If you would have read the minor detail prior to my list, you would have seen that I don't like any heroes, only villains. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:25, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I noticed it's just a little suprising since most fans have a mix of favourate heroes and Villans that's all also i was wondering was your username inspired by Zarbon looking similier in looks to that of a prince? (his'Beauty' side that is) just asking or was it something that just came to mind? since he is your favourate character after all.--InoNOTHING 13:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

There's something i want to put on the power level section of Zarbon which is the possibility of how strong Vegeta could of been when he killed him since acording to facts Zarbon had a power level of 30,000 in his second or Beast form Vegeta must at least be in the mid-high 30s but i don't really want to put it down without permission if that's okay.--InoNOTHING 05:35, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah i didn't want to put anything down unless it was offical that Vegeta was stronger since of course he had that near-death experiance which most fans now saiyans grow stronger after having one. Also i think their fights were probable the best example of this ability since prier to their second fight Vegeta coudn't defeat Zarbon in his second form but coulld after having the near-death experiance do you think that could go on the Saiyan articale perhapse?.--InoNOTHING 13:32, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Good i'm suprised no one has put it up already.--InoNOTHING 13:47, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

SUp :D

Hey it sasori-dana from deviantart!!!! but here i am jeice mate!!!!

Hello there comrade. Do you like the DB wiki? It's the best resource for encyclopedic material in relation to DB. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:30, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah i like it! its like the most amazing DBZ info place evar!!! i have gained so much info off of here its not even funny! you guys must knwo ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOT about dbz dont you lol

Why thank you mate. We try our best to maintain an accurate and reliable resource. :] - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:00, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

What he Means is we have the best minds in the world working on this XD --Silver Sinspawn 06:37, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Could You Merge these?

Pulse Drive and Meteor Burst, its the same attack. --Silver Sinspawn 09:44, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary. The Meteor Burst has Turles listed when it should be an image of Vegeta. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:21, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

So,should i remove all Turles info from the page,and put it on the Pulse Drive page? --Silver Sinspawn 06:42, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Just Dropping in

Hey Zarbon, how are you bud? Just thought I'd stop in to see how you are. Sorry about my recent declining inactivity, I've just been preoccupied with school etc. I will try my best to come on more, hopefully I will have more time soon. Anyway talk to you soon.
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03:41, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
Hey dear comrade. I've been trying my best to maintain the site; I love your checking in, thanks I'm fine and I hope you're doing well also. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:31, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Tiencha Page

I left a message to the user that keeps messing up the format. Hopefully he/she will listen and find a more constructive manner in which to edit. -- 08:00, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Most of the time, the users are unaware of the mess they make when they screw up the initial templates. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:04, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Page to Delete

Para Para Boogie. -- 08:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Done. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:14, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Tien Quote

Come now friend, surely you remember the quote from the English dub of the Saiyan Saga! Remember when Nappa blew the helicopters up with a news crew inside? It was humorous! A lot of people laughed at the prospect of EVERYONE managing to escape. Please restore the quote, its grand.

Yes, I remember the quote, but it established absolutely nothing in the article itself. This isn't a humor zone or joke central. These articles are supposed to be encyclopedic resources, not a source of comical gestures or dubbing errors for laugh value. Sorry, but if I find any unrelated insertions for no apparent reason but to be laughable, I am removing them. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:04, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Dragonball Kai Episodes...

Hi I'm really sorry but I tried adding the missing Dragonball Kai episodes from wikipedia but I don't know how! Could someone do it plz?

Super Saiyan 4

Pictures on the articale of Gotenks and Gohan as Super Saiyan 4s request removale if I may ask you kindley don't want to do it myself incase of suspision--InoNOTHING 11:16, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Flying Nimbus

I was watching Dragonball episode 43 and an old man in the village with muscle tower claimed that there used to be many flying Nimbus's flying around, but they were getting rare. Could this mean that Korin took all of the Nimbus's and kept them? Or could all of the other Nimbus's belong to people that have climbed Korin Tower and received them as gifts(like Roshi)and they could have all passed away since not many people live as long as Roshi. I was wondering if you knew anything about it. The Original Super Sayain 12:57, October 6, 2009 (UTC) 12:55, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

It may have been a reference to people being able to use the nimbus more frequently in the past. But the nimbus cloud isn't limited to people who climb Korin tower. There are likely many ways to obtain a nimbus and use it. This would all be speculation though, and better not to be in an article. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:44, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Page to delete

Commander Swaffeloor Please note the small inappropriate image photo-shopped on the main image here, it is explicit and may qualify as vandalism. -- 22:04, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism, twice on the Bulla page. -- 01:05, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

done. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:01, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Vandal on Golden Great Ape Page -- 23:42, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Vandal on Golden Great Ape Page -- 23:42, October 7, 2009 (UTC)


Sounds good to me bro, whatever works out best for you. I'm going good, you? Also, I've been working on a project for a few hours now, I do not want to post it on your talk page, but simply search for "Template:Main Page". Basically it will tidy up our welcome section and will allow for more info and navigation etc. Lemme know what you think?
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01:19, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
I'll check it out mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:31, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
Glad you like it, I actually planned to do something like put all 3 logos, Dragon Ball on the left, DBZ center top, and DBGT at the right, what would you think of that? Needs some other tweaks too before being put in use of course.
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01:38, October 8, 2009 (UTC)


How do I leave edit summaries. I mean I keep chanign Goku's article becuase it is not necessary to say he has an alternate timeline self. There is a link to it already on his page. You might as well state Future selves for anyone else that appeared in DBZ: "History Of Trunks". Its superfluous. Also for Tien, his infobox is incorrect. They should state everything like the fact that he appeared in all 3 Dragon Ball series. So there. just tell me how to leave edit summaries so I dont have to deal with people who are asses.—This unsigned comment was made by Banan14kab (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!


Hey this is Banan14kab. Can you please help me out. I am very confused about the editing process on this site. I dont know how to do edit summaries. Can you leave me some helpful poins on my talk page. I dont know how to contact other users. Also can you tell me how to undo edits you've made to a wiki? for example how tog et Goku's page back to normal when I accidentally remove things and save it. Please help soon. Thanks in advance. (Banan14kab 02:27, October 8, 2009 (UTC))

Re: Congratulations

Thanks a lot, PrinceZarbon. So if I am going to be a moderator here, I have to help make sure that everything is in good shape and there’s no trace of vandalism, huh? Well, I’ll do my best with this new job now. I gotta admit, though, I feel a little nervous for now, but with you, SSJGoku93, and Nonoitall helping me out here, I’m sure I’ll do a really great job along with the other new moderators, 10X Kamehameha and Sega381. Thanks a lot, man, and happy editing! 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp Oct. 29, 2009 (UTC)

Our new moderators

I am very happy with our choices, these users are very reputable and fit the bill perfect. This added help will make things a lot easier around here. One question though, in regards to the difference between "Sysop" and "Moderator", what would you say the difference is, as I'd like to add a correct description on the Admin page. Thanks and talk to you soon.
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23:59, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta

PrinceZarbon the second exclusive character in Raging Blast is a Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta guess there won't be a new character exctley but what can ya do heh?--InoNOTHING 03:54, October 9, 2009 (UTC)


Hate to add to your dissapointment,but,Not only is SSJ3 Vegeta in RB, I Heard,no Dabura AND: Dragon Ball Reborn is the name of the new DBE Movie.that means its confirmed --Silver Sinspawn 04:11, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry mate he's not going to be on here for another 3 days.--InoNOTHING 04:15, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

dragonball episode 48

The opening of episode 48 says that its called deep sea blue, but in here it labeled deep blue sea. The Original Super Sayain 15:36, October 10, 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for clearing that up, just wanted to assure I had put correct info into the Administrator page. I'm guessing I should add their named to the current admin list on the main page as well?
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00:29, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
looks fine mate. Thanks. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:51, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

DB Release Question

yo zarb, its TienGinyu again, was wondering if you knew the next release, i think its DB season 2 in November, but the DB movies haven't come out yet, and i don't now when, + the OVA dvds. Do you now??? TienGinyu 19:20, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

The movies are not yet slated for release. They may be released in conjunction with the last season of Dragon Ball the same way Dragon Ball GT movie was included with GT season 2. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:50, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that PZ, but there's 30 episodes for the last season so why have the movies with the last season ??? And what about the OVA's ??? TienGinyu 18:11, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

That's how funimation operates. I don't know why it's like that but it just is. The OVA's may not be released. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:40, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

On the Dragon Ball (anime) page it sais that the movies will be released as a double feature, is this true or have they now changed it? TienGinyu 18:21, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reffered by 10X

He said you were the guy to go to for English dub. Question in discussion page for Tien. I had another comment/question on the King Furry discussion page, if you have the time to answer.

Thanks for the help,

  • King Furry Yea that's what I was thinking too, but it seems that everywhere that I look people call him King of the Earth, which is so confusing. Another thing about him that I found odd is that I am almost positive I heard him say that he was elected to his position, yet he keeps his throne for forever. This leads me to believe that in the Dragonball world once elected a King is able to keep their throne until they die.

Strange huh? Anyways sorry to post this here, I know this info doesn't belong here and would be more useful on the King Furry talk page but I seem to have lost the edit button for the discussion on that page, is it just my browser or has it disappeared for you as well?*

  • also still not fluent in HTML so I haven't entered any of the info talked about today, really enjoy the discussion though thanks again*

Dragula42 00:18, October 15, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

The phrase "King of the Earth" can easily mean one of the kings of the Earth. It may be titular in that there is more than one king of the Earth. After all, he is a king, and he is from Earth, so it's possible that him being a King and "of" Earth, just means he's one of the kings of the Earth. In the manga (which is the most accurate resource), it just depicts him as the King of that area. It's possible that he's king of one sector though. I wouldn't conclude that he's king of the entire Earth though just based on that. It's a matter of how you look into it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:04, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Lord slug

I was playing Dragonball Z Budokia Tenkaichi 3 and there is a spot in the game where you can look up character info. and in that page there is a spot where you can select any character and chichi has some preset comment about them. I picked Lord Slug and chichi said that she heard something strange happened to slug at the world tournament. Do you know what she means?The Original Super Sayain 00:09, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Cool observation. I assume you mean the opinion Chi Chi gives about all the characters. I don't know what she means about Lord Slug though. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:33, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
likley a mistake on the VA or creaters part.--InoNOTHING 14:18, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Maybe Chi Chi confused it with Piccolo in the tournament. Heh. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Hah Hah Hah yeah but then again she never really cares about anyone or anything but Gohan and Goten.--InoNOTHING 14:33, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
True, although her comments in relation to the rest of the characters seems to be accurate. Like what she says about my favorite guy: "For that beautiful face to become so dreadful..." awesome. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:49, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
I found how she said "This is the form of Vegeta when he first became a delinquent well he was a delinquent in the first place" hilarieuse.--InoNOTHING 15:06, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Lol @ that. She calls so many people delinquents. I like Chi Chi for her strictness. She was a gorgeous choice for that voice-over. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:37, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Spice Boys

How is the Spice Boys not a reference to the Spice Girls and not trivia? It is apparent and obvious that when they came up with the name they had that in mind and reference it. It is like trying to claim that Vegeta did not come from Vegetable.

The Spice Boys are not related to the Spice Girls. Their names are related to condiments and their leader is Spice, has absolutely nothing to do with the Spice Girls because the Spice Girls are not named Mustard, Vinegar, Salt, and Spice. Don't add that again. Also, there was no Spice Girls when the Spice Boys were created. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

- Of course I know that they are not related. I'm simply saying that the name is an allusion to it. You should know that the names in DB are allusions and puns to many things, your screenname "Zarbon" comes from the Japanese for Pomelo. Also, they are called the Spice Boys in the Funimation dub, and when was the Funimation dub recorded, in the late ninties and early two-thousands, well after the band was formed. - User:Misterdonutman/sig 16:00, October 17, 2009 (PTC)

Their names are NOT an allusion to the group. Their names ARE an allusion to the condiments and foods. I ALREADY know that their names are based puns on foods, clothes, instruments, etc. BUT NOT BANDS. that's a mere coincidence. It's not TRIVIA. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:50, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

hey, you're back!

hey zarbon, i had a question for you!

i'm planning to go to a cosplay convention (as jeice lol) and wanted to know if you bought the scouters you are wearing in the pics on your user page or if you made them. i've been searching around but can't really find any decent retail ones, but yours looks really good.SSJ8Gotenks 00:47, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Messup on Bubbles page?

I was reading Bubbles page and read this: "He also makes a cameo in Bio Broly telling Goku that Broly's acting up in Hell, and that Pikkon and Goku need to take care of the situation."

I'm pretty sure that Bubbles can't talk. Shouldn't it be King Kai doing the talking?

And also, was Goku even in Bio Broly? And if he was, why would they reference Broly in Hell when the movie is about his clone and not actually Broly?

And I was also wondering if Chi Chi's comment about Lord Slug is important enough to make it in Lord Slugs trivia, or if it is just info that doesn't help the page.

Delete please

The red ribbon war --Silver Sinspawn 07:17, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

You're wrong, there is a difference between irony and coincidence. Irony means "poignantly contrary to what was expected or intended", Coincidence means "a striking occurrence of two or more events", the fact that he was killed by the same person again is coincidental and not ironic. It was ironic the first time he died because his creation killed him, but him dying again by him makes it a coincidence. Seeing as how he was killed by him one time, it would not be ironic anymore because it already happened once, it would be ironic if he didn't kill him a second time. Don't be stubborn as to not take what others have to say, these are definitions not opinions.

It can be ironic on more than one occasion. And no, in no way was it coincidental. What is coincidental is that he killed Dr. Myuu as well. But it's not coincidental that he killed Gero on more than one occasion. It's ironic that he betrayed him on two occasions. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:39, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


Hey, I was wondering when the title Legendary Super Saiyan 3 was made official? I saw its new page, complete with fan-art and no references, and last time I checked this was still just speculation. However, I noticed that you have edited the page and left it intact, so I trust you know it to be true. A lot of editors are changing other articles based on this, so could you let me know which legit source this title came from? Thanks! -- 18:42, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a legit source for this; the title is either Super Saiyan 3 Broly or LSS3 Broly, I don't know which is accurate; I merely formatted the line breaks (if it was up to me I would remove all of it, but all will become apparent in November when the game is released) I was thinking we could fixate the title of the article in the best case scenario when the game is released. But until then, we don't have an official title (I guess we can keep the unofficial one for this month until the game's release). - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:03, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Hey Dude

Hows it going,you got any work i can do? --Silver Sinspawn 00:27, October 22, 2009 (UTC)


Hey I looked it up and bubbles does say Broly is acting up in hell. Sorry for the trouble. The Original Super Sayain 14:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

1000 year-long life?

I was reading the Z-warriors page and under the dead z warriors section it said the Elder Kai gave Goku a 1000 year old life. I went to the Goku page to check it out, but it's not even mentioned. Is it an implied side effect of Elder Kai giving his life to Goku?The Original Super Sayain 22:29, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea about this. Is it a possibility limited to or exclusive to the anime rather than the manga? Possibly. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:26, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea. I asked 10x kamehameha about it also, but he didnt know either. He did delete it though. It was probably just something someone put up there as speculation or thought they heard it somewhere.The Original Super Sayain 15:44, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

What's Up?

I'm Dabura for Halloween, lol. -- 05:10, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Heck yes. I love Dabura. ^_^ Nothing much is up though, cept for the constant reverts of useless line breaks and occasional vandalism here. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:14, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Oh man those linessssss. Yah, I know what you mean. After pretty much every edit I've made in the last couple weeks, the site has inserted line breaks everywhere and I've had to go through and take them back out. -- 05:55, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

See, you know exactly what I mean. And the anon ip's don't help any either because they add line breaks at random all over the articles. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:04, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Major Metallitron

Oops. Forgive me. I didn't realize 'first to' was not trivia because it's on various other pages you seemingly missed. If i ever see them again i'll sure fix them for you though. I also don't understand why you overlook certain things yet delete other things instantly. I hope those rumors about favortism among admins isn't true because there's no sense in working with people like that. SuperTron500 (talk) 06:49, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Who is the first android Goku fights? I'd like to know since i was seemingly mistaken. It can't be you consider every 'first to' entry to be "not trivia" or else you wouldn't have allowed that thing about Metallitron being the first to identify Goki as an alien to stay. Facts like those aren't trivia, yet stuff about how a character in something completely non-DB related supposedly resembles a character from the series is? From what i saw of the Blue Dragon villan Destroy he hardly resembled King Piccolo at all if any. So obviously that's someone's opinion and not a fact. SuperTron500 (talk) 07:06, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
I probably should have titled this Trivia, but i guess it's too late now. Oddly you made fairly recent edits to both Tambourine and Fasha's pages yet overlooked the info in the trivia section, but i fixed them both and will continue to fix them as i find them, mate. Ironic how i could do the job of being an administrator if someone gave me a chance because i actually do have some strong areas when it comes to editing. However, i don't want to be an administrator, i get more satisfaction out of knowing i'm just a simple editor who doesn't have to pretend to be perfect; i mean no disrespect, but it kinda seems to me having to constantly display knowlege is just part of the job. --SuperTron500 (talk) 07:38, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
Nothing is ironic about any of that. And no, first times of instances that Goku does something doesn't account for trivia on another character's article. If I did overlook those trivial errors, then I will locate them and delete them. More than often, anon ip's add numerous useless gibberish to the trivia sections, I try my best to remove inconsequential instances to the best of my ability. I'm sorry I missed the bits on Tambourine and Fasha's articles about same sounding voices, I've been deleting those myself, as they don't account for trivia either. Thanks for pointing those instances out, they are numerous and plenty on many articles. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:07, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Your talking about the fact that non-DB characters looking like DB characters is not trivia, so I just wanted to point out that under Frieza's trivia it states that he looks like a Xenomorph from alien and it also states that cooler's final form looks like predator. I don't know if this fits your description above as being non-trivial, I was just throwing it out there because it has been there since before I joined this site and I did not want to delete it. Vegeta also has one under his trivia saying that he looks like Kazuya Mishima of the Tekken series.The Original Super Sayain 15:56, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

The xenomorph is actual trivia; the look is uncanny. But I don't know about the Kazuya one, that may have to be deleted as well. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:23, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

If it was just a mistake it wasn't ironic. I have had a bad habit of seeing things that remain on this wiki and get the impression they accounted for trivia, and all i can do is try to improve with the knowlege i gain because i know it makes me a better and more informed editor. I agree not all things about a character's appearance should be removed, like Major Metallitron is obviously based on the Terminator. Also, i noticed the resemblance between Frieza's third form and the Xenomorph, and even read once Akira actually stated he intended it that way, but i've never been able to find the article again so i'm not sure if it's true or not. Personally i didn't notice any likeness at all between King Piccolo and Destroy other than the fact Destroy has a beehive shaped head like King Piccolo's old form and Destroy folds his arms alot like King Piccolo's young form. SuperTron500 (talk) 20:40, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's understandable. We agree that some of these likenesses are actually based on film references, so we need proof but it's still fine to keep these instances. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:04, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Vegeta page

Sorry I messed up the Vegeta page. I thought it was worded a little funny so I changed it and added a little more detail. Sorry for the inconvenience.The Original Super Sayain 16:30, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

It's alright mate, I simply revert anything that messes up the construct or formatting of an article. Even more important than the information itself is that the article be maintained in an orderly and properly formatted fashion my dear comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:38, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Is vegeta considered a main dbz villian? or is Frieza the first main villian? i was confused because Vegeta has his own saga, but most don't consider him to be one. The Original Super Sayain 19:09, October 23, 2009 (UTC).19:08, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Vegeta is not a main dbz villain. He's an antagonist in the first saga but that's it. The first primary villain is Frieza (followed by Cell, and finally Buu.) Former antagonists don't count as villains. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:24, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Ok thanks for clarifying.The Original Super Sayain 21:23, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


Can i have help setting up a talk page?

I'd be glad to help, can you be a little more specific as to what you would like on your talk page...? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:46, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

how to add things to it

Princess Snake

Even though it was not in the trivia section, i removed the bit on Princess Snake's page under 'Appearances in Other Media' about how she has yet to appear in any video games. I have left the part about her appearing as an optional battle in Legacy of Goku because that was the only important/notable fact. Not only was it unimportant, but it contradicted the statement under it that she was in Legacy of Goku. Thank you. SuperTron500 (talk) 18:03, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

How can I insert another alternate name for a Character?

Hi, I'd like to know how I'm on the safe side if I want to add some more alternate regional (nick-)names for Dragonball Characters as it's the case with Muten Roshi's (already inserted) german name/title which would translate back to something like "Master/Ruler of all Turtles" (or so). In my country, e. g. the Ninja Murasaki is referred to as "Ninja Lila" ("Lilac Ninja"/"Violet Ninja") and Korin-sama is called "Meister Quitte" ("Master Quince"). Now there's a problem that with the aforementioned, respectively, it seems that the Character Infobox can't be altered anymore as it looks like a solid bitmap or something alike.

Would be nice if anyone can provide me with help or suggest so that I can take on the challenge of editing the names where necessary. ^_^

Thx Vegeccolo 21:45, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Technically, these international names aren't needed in the infoboxes or articles of the wiki itself. They can easily be placed in the proper country of their origin. For example, there is a German wiki for German Dragon Ball names and a Spanish wiki for Spanish Dragon Ball names. This is an English wiki, so we don't need any of the international dubbing names in that context, as there would be well over 20 different dubs of names for each and it would just create confusion on the English wiki itself. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:48, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Edit: A good but still homehow strange argument as, on the other hand, the names of the German, Spanish, French, Italian, Klingon [...] Voice Actors are accepted ;-)

Likely because they are more widely known and are slightly notated... the voice actors are notated, not the character name differences by the way. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:07, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Dragon ball confusion

I'm sure this is just one of many plot holes in GT, but I haven't seen anybody talk about it yet. How could the Shadow Dragons come from wishes made on old dragon balls? When Dende came to Earth, he made his own balls so the old ones would no longer be here right? Also what happened to the balls when Piccolo fused with Kami? Did they disappear?The Original Super Sayain 19:56, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

The evil dragons are not from one set of balls, their energy is accumulated from all the evil energy in the Dragon Ball universe. The balls don't disappear from Piccolo fusing with Kami (it just makes him one entity) so the only time they would disappear/turn to stone is if Piccolo died. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:59, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

What was the purpose of Dende making his own balls when piccolo had his own?The Original Super Sayain 14:15, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I believe the purpose was wish capacity. Dende's balls have a different wish-granting capacity, forged from the powers of the Namekian dragon and in conjunction with the Shenron of Earth. Lesser number of wishes but more wish-granting power. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

File:Chichi 20goku 20married.jpeg

I have been trying to figure out the origin of File:Chichi 20goku 20married.jpeg for a little while now. The picture looks so real yet i don't recall seeing it anywhere in DBZ or DBGT and i do know for sure it is not from the original scene in DB. I wrote to 10X Kamehameha about it, but pretty much he redirected me to the user who uploaded it, XOzelinkOX, but he has not been back for quite some time. I was wondering your opinion on this picture while i wait, or if you happen to know where it comes from (like a guidebook or something). I would like to resolve this because if it's fan-art it should be removed like all any other image that is such, regardless of who likes the picture and who doesn't. Of course, i'm not saying my version of the wedding picture should replace it, but if this is fan art someone should upload a new pic from the actual scene. SuperTron500 (talk) 21:35, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea where that picture original resource is, or where it is derived from. However, I can assure that I've seen it prior and for some odd reason, I also remember it to be official. It may be from a guidebook or Daizenshuu, even if it is not from the anime directly. But we do need to confirm it's source before keeping it on articles. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:19, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
It looks familiar to me aswell. I believe it's official, though i kept thinking maybe it was from a scene in DBGT i don't remember. It is probably from the Daizenshuu. If i find anything confirming this i will forward it over to you aswell. SuperTron500 (talk) 23:34, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Neko Majin Z

Hi. I was wondering why Neko Majin Z characters such as Onio is listed among Saiyans. Since Neko Majin Z is a spin off and not official or truly related to Dragonball canonity. And to list Kuriza as a relative to Frieza also seems odd to me. I'd like to hear your opinion about the subject. RenbuItsuQiRinKai 00:06, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I'm personally against this as well. I'm against having anything from the spinoffs in the Dragonball canonicity, and the same goes for Kuriza. But, some of my comrades may not feel the same way. I suggest you also bring this up with SSJGoku93, my co-admin, and if he agrees, I will remove the links to the Kuriza and Neko Majin references myself from the Frieza article. The Neko Majin stuff can be kept intact in its own articles without infusing it into the rest of the Dragon Ball universe. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:58, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Okay. So i shall do.RenbuItsuQiRinKai 10:20, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
PZ. It seems that SSJGoku93 haven't been online for a while so the Neko Majin thing will probably not be answered for quite some time i believe. So i guess it's going to stay. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 21:54, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


If a character only appears in a show during a flashback, the show should not be added to the catagories on the character's page, correct? SuperTron500 (talk) 06:43, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Since you said we're friends, or comrades or something like that; i hope you don't mind if i consult you anytime i'm unsure of something. I think that could help reduce the number of mistakes i make in regards to content that belongs and doesn't belong. SuperTron500 (talk) 07:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
You're all my comrades. I want to make that evident. The only people who aren't are the ones who go and vandalize the articles with useless gibberish and/or foul language. Hmmm... in the case of flashbacks, if a character appears in a flashback, it must be noted still. An appearance is an appearance, be it a flashback or not. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
But i added Dragon Ball Z to Major Metallitron's page because he briefly appeared when Master Roshi was telling Marron about kid Goku and the Red Ribbon Army, yet it was removed. I'm just sort of confused by this, aren't you the one who removed Dragon Ball Z from his catagories? SuperTron500 (talk) 21:08, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, now I see what you are saying. About the categories, I thought you meant from the articles themselves or the initial appearances in the infoboxes. No, only their main appearance should go in the categories, not their flashback appearances, those are too brief to be noted as categories. I was a bit confused about what you initially meant. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:53, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
I see. I guess i messed up on alot of pages but i'll try to fix all the ones i can find. Is it worth noting on Metallitron's page he appeared during the Androids Saga? Also, ever notice how for such a minor character he sure make quite a few appearances, though most of them were filler after his defeat. SuperTron500 (talk) 23:57, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Everything should be noted in the articles themselves, even the flashbacks, so yes for Metallitron in that case. But not in the categories. Metallitron would be a DB character in the categories. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:10, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


How can I create those tiny so-called "userboxes" (like the ones on your wikipage) and possibly integrate them up here?

I especially would need boxes spotting text content like "[language] is my mother's tongue", "user is capable of posting in English", "user is fan of Lina Inverse" and so on. Are there matching examples available at some place in the WWW?

Vegeccolo 11:56, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not certain what you mean by userboxes... if you are referring to my wikipedia userpage, I did not create any there, I merely copied and pasted existing ones. Since this is a centralized DBZ wiki, we don't need userboxes here. That is limited to the wikipedia itself. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:31, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Spam Article

I noticed that an article has been created that has absolutely no contribution or meaning. Biological Saiyan Thought you could remove the page since i lack information about how to do so. RenbuItsuQiRinKai 17:41, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to notify me of any other spam articles, I'd be glad to remove them. Thanks mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Just doing what i can:). I have developed a habit checking updates and edits, spying for vandalism^^.
I absolutely detest vandalism and spam, not to mention this whole line break gibberish that some of the ip's are randomly inserting. I would appreciate all the help I could get at reverting spam and vandalism. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:17, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Then we agree on that part mate.RenbuItsuQiRinKai 01:13, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
Yup! Of course. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
Don't know if i should tell you, but i found this blank page that were just recently created. Dynamite Monday.RenbuItsuQiRinKai 01:19, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
Done. ^_~ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:22, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
The same Blank page recreated Dynamite Monday - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 22:54, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Dr, Kochin and the dragon staff

I think what he means to say is that to have carved the dragon Shenron; he would have to know what Shenron looks like, and therefore he must have seen him. Dragula42 04:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

It's speculation. We can't have any of that on the articles. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:08, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for getting to it, that page was up there for a while. The term still exists and here
Out of curiosity, where does the term come from? why is it so widespread? Dragula42 05:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

The term is likely fan-made, as are many that have been removed prior. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:12, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Raging Blast

Hey. I'm curious, if i decide to get a PS3 and Raging Blast, will i meet you online? Would be fun to battle you^^. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 02:09, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I dunno, I don't play games online multiplayer normally, just the single player on very hard and with some of my friends. But if I learn how to connect, sure why not. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:13, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
I'm the same. I was just amused by the idea of battling you, or anyone else for that part. The trailer's making me want to try out the multiplayer. I wonder which character you would be using.. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 02:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
I'm well in the Tenkaichi games with Zarbon, Piccolo, Burter, Cell, Omega Shenron, and Kid Buu. I guess I'd likely use Zarbon and Kid Buu for the most part. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
Good to know^^. Actually, i kinda figured Zarbon.. Do you prefer the Tenkaichi or the Budokai series? - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 23:08, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
I hate the Budokai series aside from Budokai 1 because it was without my top two favorites in all history, Zarbon and Dodoria. I of course prefer the Tenkaichi series a thousand fold based on roster. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:45, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Okay. I found the Budokai series playable, but not nearly as entertaining as Tenkaichi,2 and 3. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 21:51, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Although I have all the games, my favorite installment is Tenkaichi 2 because it treated my favorite character like a god (he got his own story mode). And it had the longest story mode overall out of all the games with over 100 missions. Tenkaichi 3 was very short with less than 60 missions. Tenkaichi 2 is my most favorite installment overall. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:59, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Okay, i personally own Budokai 1 and 3, and have experience with 2, and Tenkaichi 1 and very soon 3. I have played Tenkaichi 2 at times but never the story mode. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 22:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Then you're missing out because Tenkaichi 2 had the best story mode. All other games were very short in comparison... less than half to be precise. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:18, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Yes i've realized that. Maybe in the future i will purchase Tenkaichi 2, but right now i've got stuff on my prio list. First is a PS3 for christmas, which i will pay half for, then Raging Blast then a new computer since my current is lacking in many areas. Maybe somwhere in between i will have time/money for T2. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 22:45, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
I don't know how BT2 can even equate next to the amount of cash you just prioritized. lol, considering the fact that it's only $10 now... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:08, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Well, it's not that it's too expensive, it's more that Tenkaichi 3 will take some time to complete to it's fullest, by learning and using all characters (a little hobby of mine) and then it's not that long until christmas when i'm planning on buying PS3 and Raging Blast, then after a while i might buy T2. Why i mentioned i'm buying a nw computer doesn't make any sense. Must have forgotten myself a bit. After i buy the computer anyways, i'll wait for DB Online. Mostly it's about time to fully complete every aspect of the games. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 23:38, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
If I were you, I'd have bought BT2 long before and just got the rest later, since it is the overall better game. For example, Burst Limit was for Ps3 but it sucked and was lame by comparison. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Well my intention was to buy BT2^^, but since the store in my little town in the little country Sweden doesn't have any version later than BT1, so i have to buy it online, i found eBay as the best place, i searched and only BT3 was available for the PAL system and PS2 so i was left without choice since i sincerely want another BT game since the one i have i've been playing to it's limit. And that's why:). Also, what do you think about the great character amount in BT3 compared to BT2? - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 23:50, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
It's not that different... there's only 10 people more in BT3... the only good thing is for multiplayer... but since I don't care about multiplayer as much as single player... BT3 sucks compared to BT2. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:12, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell more about the multiplayer on BT3? What's the difference and can you go online? - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 00:20, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
I don't know... like I said I don't play multiplayer... only with my friends who come over and rarely. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Ok, i guess i didn't pay attention^^. Well, the game's supposed to fall down in the mailbox any day now, hopefully tomorrow, so i'll check it out myself ^-^. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 00:32, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
cough, just to get involved a sec, i hare the budakai games, cause the way you fight, like, side on is really annoying, and the tencakichi (not spelt it right im sure) is much better cause of game quailitiy and character usage. also, i love vegeta. cause ee's half eveil hlf good. such a good combo VegetaTheOnlySayian 18:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)


PrinceZarbon, this guy is adding some useless line-breaks to the Majin Buu page and several others. Since my computer refuses to let me undo his edits, i'm asking you. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 02:30, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I noticed and I've blocked temporarily, I hope this user doesn't continue to do that. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:52, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


I just have a question. What was blocking for a week supposed to do? I still made edits though and was just wondering. I wasnt trying to commit vandalism or anything, but I would like to know. (Banan14kab 17:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC))

What was the reason for your block? If people add useless line breaks to an article, it is likely that they deserve a block. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:50, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Stray Article

Hi, I would lie to report an article called Super Saiyan Goku. It's trash, and I recommend deletion as soon as possible --SaiyanZ 00:06, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it by redirecting to the Goku article. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:36, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I don't really see how the Super Saiyan Goku article is trash. Super Saiyan Goku is just the name of a story mode level in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3, in which Goku fights Lord Slug. How about remove the redirect to the Goku page, and then we move the Super Saiyan Goku article to the name, "Super Saiyan Goku (Special Saga)"? 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

This is indeed a BT3 stage, and had a fairly complete description and categorization as it was. I'm going to restore the page, but move it to Super Saiyan Goku (Stage). If this is not alright PZ, just change it back I suppose. -- 04:03, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
It's fine, as long as we specify that it's a game article and not Super Saiyan Goku as in the character, then the article can stay. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:13, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


Hi Prince. I'm curious. Is it against the rules for me as a regular contributer to tell people to for example sign their posts? Well more like advicing them to do so. Or is it not my duty nor business? - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 21:28, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

It's fine for you to tell them to sign their posts... as long as you do it in a courteous manner mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:41, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Okey. Good to know, since i don't want to be meddling with admin stuff ^^. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 21:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

An even more proactive thing to do is just to tag their posts yourself, by putting {{unsigned|UserName}} after their comments, where UserName is the user's username, lol. I do this when I can, but we should really look into a bot. -- 00:32, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I am allowed to do that? I didn't know.. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 18:09, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why not. You're just letting the community know who said what, which is always helpful when responding. -- 20:08, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know.. Just felt like asking first, acting later.. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 23:42, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Salza blade page

Hey zarbon i looked on the salza blade page and there is really nothing on it. i was wondering if you could ask people to add to the page. Thank you- marioman86

I added a bit more info as well as an image. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:09, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Help wanted

Hello folks, I need a little guidance for learning how to insert pictures in an article in a "properly formatted" manner so that they don't f*** up the pattern or so. Thx Vegeccolo 09:09, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Have you ever thought of looking at how other images are formatted properly in order to duplicate their format... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:09, November 4, 2009 (UTC)


Hi Prince. I wonder if a regular contributer like me can have assignments, like stuff to do. Since i feel that i would like to help more than i do. Maybe you could figure something even a regular contributer can do. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 23:54, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't have any specific tasks to hand out. Feel free to search the wiki for errors in spelling or grammar mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:59, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks anyways mate:). - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 20:18, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

It's been a long time

I wanted to make a Dynamite Monday article without any fooling around like the others, but it was locked to prevent recreation. Dekoshu talk contrib 00:02, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Try making an article for it now. I decreased the block capacity so you can edit it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Mr. PrinceZarbon. Dekoshu talk contrib 00:12, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:30, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Gigant Rock Throw

Would you mind cheaking if my version of the Gigant Rock Throw articale is okay compared to how it was origanaley? thanks.--InoNOTHING 05:54, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed some minor stuff/spelling. Looks fine. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:59, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I could be wrong PZ, but isn't that move called either Giant Rock Throw or Gigantic Rock Throw? -- 06:08, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I believe the move is inaccurately spelling ingame. I don't know if we should alter the title because the inaccurate spelling is official, although the obvious and logical name would be "Gigantic Rock Throw". - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:12, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

They misspelled it in a game? Oh jeez, lol. Your call PZ, I would just merge the 2 pages into 1 once you decide which to go with. -- 07:43, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I redirected it and added the additional information. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 08:11, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


Is anybody here who speaks Russian and can tell the guy who posted "Спасибо" that English ist the default language around here? (I already added such a line there and I'm telling you that in hopes you won't think it was me who posted the stuff in the first place) ;-)

Vegeccolo 09:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


Kamehameha/degree kamehameha Un-official technique/article. The user who made the page has created this himself and obviously misunderstood something about the wiki. The user also altered the Kamehameha section. A warning/notation might be in place? [[User:|Thomas Katsioulas]]. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 20:17, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

My absense and other things

Hey Zarbon, sorry about not being around lately, I have just been preoccupied with life etc. I should be making more of return later this month. If you could please let the others know somehow, I would be very appreciative. Thank you for understanding. Also, I found this quite puzzling. Here is the first American English trailer for Raging Blast [2], note what the computer echo voice says "Transformation in Progress, Power Increase Imminent". Dead on to what our Template:New Content says, wonder if it is a coincidence or something more? Found that odd haha. Take care bud.
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23:23, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it's a coincidence at all. Major lol. Remember when you came up with the idea to do that template, and when we discussed back when to have that template's wording be specific and even chose the best image for it, and I went through the trouble of locating a gif version for the template... well, it may be more than likely that the people behind the English version of the series stumbled upon this awesome resource and used this very awesome phrase that we love. Props to them. Major lol though dear comrade. Major lol. On another note, it's alright about your absence. I may be absent on some occasions too, like for Thanksgiving week. But I'll be sure to paste that on my userpage and talk page in order to avoid confusion. My recommendation is that you simply post your dates of absence so that you aren't contacted by members in the timeframe that you may not respond. On another note, our choices for mods have been working well, and have proven themselves to be quite worthy. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:32, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
When I first heard the voice say that I was a bit shocked. That was never mentioned at all in the series, and was something original I came up with because it sounded cool. Man if that is how they got the idea, that is amazing. 21:21, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
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Broly Article

This sentence did not make much sense to me.

In the video game Budokai Tenkaichi 3, the Strategy Style Z item Broly Style describes his fighting method as "doggedly pursuing the opponent."

Is 'strategy style' supposed to be an adjective expressing 'z item' and the name of the z item is specifically 'Broly Style'?
If so I think this sentence is missing something, perhaps some form of punctuation. Not sure what would fix it though. Dragula42 06:53, November 7, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42


Sorry, I didn't know about "My Talk." I'm still learning how to edit articles, but now I'm reading the manuals.

It's alright, as long as we avoid improper formatting, all is fine mate. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:04, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

talk page

Hey man! I just set up a talk page.......thank you for helping me.—This unsigned comment was made by Marioman86 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Question about General Blue

Was there an explaination (or at least giving hints) as to exactly WHY General Blue was loyal to the Red Ribbon Army? I don't think it was ever explained (I haven't watched Dragon Ball at all, save for parts of the Piccolo Jr. Saga)? I just find it odd that he seemed to be absolutely loyal to that evil army for apparantly no reason whatsoever. If not an official explaination, can you at least tell me why you think he's loyal to that Army (since, you know, he is your favorite character in Dragon Ball)

I mean, at least with another German-descent character who served in a somewhat antagonistic force in another series, Frank Jaeger, at least had a reason for being absolutely loyal to Big Boss's cause (Big Boss had saved him three times. First in The Mozambiquan War for Independence, second during the San Hieronymo Takeover where Big Boss freed him from his persona of Null, and third when he was an operative of RENAMO who was captured by FRELIMO soldiers and tortured. I never really understood his reasonings as to why he was loyal to the Red Ribbon Army in the first place. Weedle McHairybug 02:52, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

General Blue was the absolute most loyal due to his militaristic discipline and generally his love for following a strict code of ethics. He was also primarily loyal out of fear; most of the members of the Red Ribbon Army knew within themselves that if they were to fail, it would be punishable by death. His execution was imminent through failure as he himself repeated this when his failure of retrieving the Dragon Balls cost him his own life. He also wanted to collect the treasure from the pirate cave, for example, but for the honor of the Red Ribbon Army and not for his own selfish desire. There is a strong parallel here between this powerful General and someone such as Colonel Violet, for example, who was placed in similar circumstances and acted for the betterment of her own ends... by stealing treasure from the vault. Do I love the character of General Blue due to his brilliant enigma and charisma as a soldier, as an antagonist, and as a brave elite... the answer is yes. Do I feel military discipline and strict loyalty, old-fashioned ethics and behavior goes a long way in making for a strong character... the answer is yes. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:32, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so I guess he's the Red Ribbon Army's version of Elpizo from the Mega Man Zero series (well, you know, before he became involved in the rebellion, ironically after he was nearly executed for false premises of rebellion). I think I can understand that. Although, Considering what Staff Officer Black said about Blue having a dismal record, I'm surprised that he lived as long as he did if this so called "dismal record" was indeed accurate (Wasn't it implied that even one miniscule failure would result in immediate execution).
It's a bit of a shame, though. His love for strict discipline and a strict code of ethics could have been put to good use instead of just for the Red Ribbon Army's evil goals. Then again, he wouldn't be your favorite character if he did.
BTW, does Commander Red slightly resemble Big Boss to you? It's probably a coincidence (especially seeing how Dragon Ball was made before video games were even mainstream), but still. Weedle McHairybug 03:46, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't characterize the army itself as evil per se, although they are antagonists. Staff Officer Black is also a very loyal man, he was loyal to the army himself and wanted the best for the army. The one disloyal fellow (other than renegade Colonel Violet) is actually Commander Red for betraying his entire army for the pathetic goal of becoming taller; hence he deserved to be executed for this childish gesture. The men of the army are loyal for the most part. In the scenario for General Blue having a dismal record, the fact that he's a General is in and of itself a great feat, so he wouldn't have been dismissed as easily as privates or regular low-ranking soldiers. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:08, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of the RR Army, did Goku just defeat all those poor Cannon Fodder soldiers or did he really kill them? (If he did, it would add just another reason to why he defenitely is NOT my favourite character)Hey, those men have/had wives & children to feed. Should they instead have preferred to refuse Army service in the name of 'Political Correctness'(Hello? I'd like to purchase this estate. And if it's okay, I'd like to pay with my political correctness. Thanks.);-) A situation that reminds me of Star Wars' Storm/Clonetroopers or any other movie with Nazi-based villains^_^ Vegeccolo 07:28, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Baring in mind that General Blue is based on a Sturm Abteilung (SA) officer of the Nazi order himself, this isn't far-fetched. Many of the Red Ribbon Army soldiers of course had women and children to feed and had their own families. And of course Goku is a murderer of the highest caliber, but he's the same as any other hero who murders all the villains out of their own principle. But it's the same concept here with killing them as it is with any military conflict, and that is that the strong survive and the weak perish (although it may seem very much a factor of Darwinism and survival of the fittest, that is what life is about)... and why I chose General Blue's very iconic phrase as the primary one for his article. And in this sense, it's also integral to note that I love all military officers from the Star Wars universe, especially Grand Moff Tarkin, who happens to be one of my top 3 favorite star wars characters; the other two being Darth Maul and Darth Sidious, and I absolutely hate Darth Vader for being a traitorous scumbag and betraying Lord Sidious. I also like the "Nazi-based villains" as you put it, because they are all dying for their orders and their loyalty. These are the true men I love in these tales, because their lives end with tragedy, yet they lived powerfully and served with honor to the last breath. So about this political conundrum, this enigma so to speak, the best way to explain it is that there is no such thing as an absolute good and absolute evil, but there is such a thing as victory, for one man's victory is another man's tragedy. The same can be said about my ultimate favorites in DBZ, Generals Zarbon and Dodoria, they are the highest ranking Commander Generals in an army of millions and they serve loyally to the final breath, dying with a fear from their master, finding themselves between a rock and a hard place and constantly with a heavy burden... and serving with utmost loyalty with military discipline. It's Vegeta who is a jerk for killing them all and betraying them even after they spared his life. But then again, I would not have loved them all so much if they did not perish in the heat of battle. For through death, they all become immortalized with a climactic ending and warm my heart for them. And after all, isn't it better to live shorter, yet exquisite and be executed... than live long and have a lame and boring life... that of which is one in mediocrity and anonymity? That's how I feel about this scenario (all the best characters are the ones who are killed, and brutally, because they portray more power and enigma through their role than the ones who live throughout the series. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:39, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
You know, I'm a bit suprised that you considered Darth Sidious to be a favorite, seeing how you seem to hate characters who are trecherous (which Darth Sidious was, by every definition, trecherous.). I also think that you're the first person I have ever witnessed to actually consider Grand Moff Tarkin to be a favorite, I'm serious. I mean, no offense, but TVtropes implied that Grand Moff Tarkin wasn't exactly popular in terms of the star wars fans. I'm all for the following of laws, as well as being brave, but I don't think I can support Nazism as a whole, after what they did at those camps... (shudders at the thought of the Holocaust, despite it happening fourty to fifty years before I was even born)
And you're right about the Victory part. One person's Victory is another person's tragedy. Heck, in some cases, One person's victory is that same person's tragedy. Take Big Boss (or rather, Naked Snake) from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. Warning: This does contain major spoilers for the ending/events of the game:
His first Victory (the success of Operation Snake Eater) was a very tragic and serious impact on his life, as not only did he have to kill The Boss due to complications that "weren't even" drafted, he had to do it under reasons he didn't even know about and in essence was just used (The US Government basically wanted the Philosophers Legacy, so they had The Boss fake her deception to try and recover the Legacy, but "complications" arose when Colonel Volgin decided to fire one of the Davy Crocketts at the Sokolov Research Bureau, thus "forcing" the US government to revise the mission entirely and have Naked Snake assassinate The Boss and recover the legacy [they never even told him about the legacy, either], as well as assassinate Colonel Volgin.). Of course, it wasn't about six years afterwards until he learned that the account wasn't entirely true. He's one example as to how one can both experience Victory and Tragedy at the exact same time.
In regards to Politics, you're correct, there isn't a "timeless" or absolute enemy. I mean, even Hitler was at least kind to his dog (and that guy was probably one of the most evil people in the world.). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that an absolute evil cannot exist. I mean, in my religion, Satan and his fallen angels are basically an absolute evil, just as God is an absolute good. Weedle McHairybug 16:20, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
You've got a nice story attached to the whole Metal Gear scenario (but I don't know the Metal Gear series well enough to judge them.) However, Tarkin and Sidious are my ultimates aside from Lord Maul being the greatest for me in the Star Wars series. When "Duel of the Fates" came on and Lord Maul removed his hood, that to me was the greatest scene ever in the history of all Star Wars. Of course I prefer villains who ruthlessly butcher the heroes (but that's my own joy, it doesn't mean I'm right) and neither does anything prove that the heroes are right for killing the villains.
When speaking of Satan... I don't see that character as an absolute evil. Satan was a high ranking General archangel himself before desiring to become a higher ranking power in God's domain, so to speak. He wanted equal or more power than that of God's. He desired to obtain more power and his own desire was a result for him to be punished. Those who seek more power are corrupted by it. And as a result, God punished him by sending him down to hell. So Satan decided that because he could not have what he wanted, that others should share his misery. The character of Satan appeals to me because he wants others to feel his pain, suffering, and agony. He is a very dynamic character and I relate to his passion more than others. Does that mean I forsake all religions, absolutely not. But I don't inherently believe that all religions are absolutely good either... being a fanatic follower of any religion is in some cases, worse than being like Satan, because the end result is worse. Satan at least was confined and bound by nothing when he realized that God wanted complete control over his followers. Satan rebelled against the power of God, but at the same time... he was more loyal to mankind's suffering than God has ever been... as Satan described, God wants to play with everyone as if they're puppets in a master plan... and he just wanted to ruin that heavenly regime out of trying to do what others never dared to do. Satan's own courage to step up against God is in and of itself admirable. The same cannot be said about the likes of Vader, he just sucked for betraying Lord Sidious (a man who actually ruled with an iron fist and deserved to rule out of having such enigma and prowess as a powerful leader).
I am very attune to military discipline and I like it above all other things. And when looking at history itself, I find that the greatest men are those who dared to leave a mark on mankind, and to hell with the consequences. These men, for example, include but are not limited to... Genghis Khan, Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and a hundred others of which I am greatly fond of for leaving a drastic mark on history be it shunned by man... they shall never ever be forgotten for they are legends through their actions and shall be a stagnant part of my essence and have gained my respect as men who have fallen but whose memory shall remain forever, like the frozen glaciers of an icy tundra. In my belief, a man is powerful for the mark he leaves, no matter the damage done. And also, the exit be grand when man takes his own life in order to avoid dying at the enemies hands. In order to understand this deep emotion and morality, you would have to delve greatly inward to the fondness of the military even over human rights. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:29, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Considering your arguments, it sincerely may be a lame excuse for me to claim that I don't like one character for defeating entire armies single-handedly while I like Veggie for appearantly the same reason^_^ Characters who are pure good or pure evil and/or switch sides surely is a cliché that's way as old as mankind itself. Usally I prefer guys, who, if I'm allowed to use the WWE slang, are some sort of "Tweeners", meaning that they have a trait or weakness like drinking, lechery, gluttony, corruption, phobia for cats, dogs or whatever as this is just human rather than standing above everybody else and all kinds of sin or causing bullets to melt by pure will ;-)

And btw, I kinda liked Tarkin, too 'cos I like the actor (Peter Cushing, also known from these then-famous Hammer Horror movies, though I partially feel sorry for the Vampire in the end)

The summary of all this supposedly is: Who is the one to decide what's good or evil? The Vulcans?? The Illuminati??? *bg*

Vegeccolo 11:33, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

True, but to a certain extent, I understand your liking for characters who are attune to gluttony, corruption, etc. because I too share that enigmatic desire to sympathize for them. But the only differential here is that the characters I like: MUST, and I mean, MUST meet with an unfortunate end... literally be killed brutally, in order for me to like/love the character. I like the man who meets a tragic end as opposed to the victor because through the tragedy and through the scene itself (the method of execution), the character lives forever onscreen. This is true immortality for me. The villain must be a villain until final breath and die a villain. He cannot be changed in order for me to like him. All my favorites fit well into this description and category, not just from DBZ, but from all movies, television, games, shows, series, comics, manga, etc. They must suffer a brutal and tragic death for me to love them. It's a victim complexity, so to speak. I ultimately hate traitors a lot, especially the likes of 17 and Vegeta, whom are very arrogant and betray their masters and creators. These are the people I hate most. Same can be said about Vader from Star Wars... who else... Wolverine from X-Men for betraying Stryker's mission and especially my favorite on-screen villain Agent Zero. See, they are the true villains. Traitors who go renegade or act antagonistic aren't villains, they are just fighting to reach their own desire. Hence, I have great love for characters who start out villains and die as villains and don't ever change. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:28, November 10, 2009 (UTC)


I give up. No matter what I do, like breaks are still happening. I'll just upload images, so that others can use them.

Thank you god. You realize how helpful this is? What you can do if you want to add certain images, just notify me of them after uploading and what articles you'd want 'em on. That way, we'd avoid the whole line break dilemma altogether. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:01, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Speaking of which, I've been having a fairly large problem with the Wikia's as of late whenever I try to edit articles. Mainly, whenever I make spaces, at (quite literally) random points, the spaces are under the space programming code used on word processors, and the rest of the time is a normal, space-bar space. Weedle McHairybug 23:26, November 9, 2009 (UTC)


urm, I've edited the Trunks page the other day, caus some idiot uploaded a photo and left a massive break in the line, which annoyed the hell out of me. I've seen it on quite alot of pages, and it's really frsutraating because it just make it look messy. I don't know if you could do, like a line check or something, if you have that much free time. Cause it's those sloppy things that make the Wiki look bad, and it has some really useful information. Like, enoy line checking, I'll correct any if I see any aswell. So, like, keep up the great work dude. (Y) VegetaTheOnlySayian 18:30, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks mate. I appreciate all the help I can get. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 23:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Line break on Master Roshi page

I'm not sure to remove this or not, it is unlike most line breaks I have seen. it says this br style="clear:both" / but with <> around it Dragula42 06:11, November 10, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

I removed it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:16, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, so, in the future if I see a strange one like that again, I should remove it>?
For the most part, yes. Unless it's absolutely necessary... but an instance like that is rare. So probably yes. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:20, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Budokai 3 Page

Hey PZ, how's it going? I just wanted to let you know that I had put those breaks in the Budokai 3 page to separate the "gallery" section from the voice cast. Is it alright to have the two sections totally overlapping like this? If so, I'll keep that in mind in the future. -- 06:33, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

No line breaks. If anything, the formatting of the article needs to be shifted, meaning the voice cast needs to be elsewhere... or we don't need a gallery of that magnitude... but either way, we can't have line breaks at all. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:36, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll let you reformat that page then, so it doesn't look so messy. --

I reformatted it. Now it should be fine. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:58, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Okay cool, nice formatting tool for that gallery. I might just try that out some time. -- 02:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Shin Budokai: Another Road page

PrinceZarbon, I would like to inform you, since you're one of this wikia's administrators, that the specified page was recently vandalized by an anonymous user. Please, check Shin Budokai: Another Road's article talk page, where I specify where the specified article was vandalized. Thanks for reading. Vegeta - San "The Prince of all Sayans? Shouldn't I be the King of all Sayans? Hmmm.... 22:02, November 10, 2009 (UTC)"

Done.svg Done Vandalism removed. In the future, feel free to simply undo vandalism on sight. The only reason to inform an admin. is if you don't know how to fix a problem, or if a user consistently or especially offensively vandalizes, and made deserve a block. -- 22:58, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. The problem is that the vandalism was on the game's storyline, which I don't know, and I didn't want to "ruin the page's credibility" if you know what I mean. Sorry for the incovenience. Any vandalism on sight that I know about will be changed. Just one question: If i correct vandalism, should I report it? If yes, how? Thanks again. Vegeta - San "The Prince of all Sayans? Shouldn't I be the King of all Sayans? Hmmm.... 23:06, November 10, 2009 (UTC)"

thank you prince zarbon

thank you for the note prince zarbon

I uploaded

I uploaded some new images.


Dragonballz, No relevance, no wiki material, no article. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 14:02, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

deleted. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:45, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Raging Blast

Has Raging Blast been released in the US yet? I think the date was set for yesterday. I just ask because I'd really like to find out whether they decided to go with SS3 or LSS3 for the English title of Broly's form. -- 04:48, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

It's been released and I played a few levels, though my having absolutely no interest in Broly's forms... I don't know yet lol. I just played some of my favorite Namek saga stuff and I found the controls to be very hard as opposed to the prior installments. I wish they would have kept the Tenkaichi controls. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:03, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I loved the old controls, especially for wii. It's like you punch hard, and your opponent goes flying- very submersive. Anyway, someone on the LSS3 page made an edit saying that the in-game form is named SS3 Broly, not LSS3. Can we please just delete that whole speculative page, now that the form doesn't exist? -- 05:17, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'm allowing you to handle the LSS versus SS3 situation. Since I have absolutely no reason to deny either and haven't confirmed any myself, if you do know which is correct and know for one to be inaccurate, feel free to delete the useless article dear comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:22, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you. Since there has been much excitement throughout the past month or so, I've merely marked the page for deletion and commented on the prospect on its discussion page. I'll give it a few days for discussion rather than simply enforcing, as to respect the opinion of all the users. -- 06:33, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars

Hi. I just noticed on your Wikipedia page that your favourite SW character is Darth Maul. I find this interesting since it happens to be my absolute favorite aswell. My second favourite is either Darth Tyrannus (Count Dooku) or General Grievous. I'm just a bit curious, what are your reasons to like Maul? I'd like to see if they differ from mine. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 17:06, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Lol wait I wanna guess first. Um, let's see... Darth Maul is the number one follower of Darth Sidious, he is a bad guy, he is absolutely loyal to his master, and he dies in a gruesome way. Do I win a prize? Lol : ) -- 21:44, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Nice guess my dear comrade. And very close to my own inclinations and feeling. But with one minor addition. The fact that Maul is loyal, like most of my favorites. Well, generally speaking, Lord Maul is my most favorite in Star Wars. Others I ultimately like are Grand Moff Tarkin, Darth Sidious, Count Dooku, and Mas Amedda. Pretty much all the people who actually stay loyal to the Sith order, and don't betray. Maul I fell in love with ultimately from the moment that he removes his hood and "Duel of the Fates" begins in the background. He's the most powerful character I've seen in terms of mannerism, enigma, and loyalty to his master above all other things. Unlike Vader (whom I strongly despise), Maul portrays the ruthless characteristics and emotionless following of orders which I respect, like a true military gentleman. I just feel that he's the most powerful man in the Star Wars universe not only due to his construct as a character and his overall enthralling behavior and mysterious voice, but also because of his appearance... his Zabrak heritage and facial tattoos of red and black are all the more compelling and beautiful... a nice visual treat. If all that isn't enough, he's also a man who dies in combat, my favorite kind. The fact that he stays true to his order and dies powerfully in the end in a brutal and ruthless manner just sent me spiraling to love him, his death scene is unparalleled in Star Wars. Considering the only other person who dies half as beautifully was Mace Windu (and he's a hero and I only like villains who stay villains and don't change along the way), it shouldn't be any wonder that Lord Maul would be my favorite. My favorite quote by Maul is from the spoiler where he says: "Fear attracts the fearful... the strong... the weak... the innocent... the corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally." This is a powerful precept of striking fear into the hearts of your enemies and using it to your advantage. That is why Maul is such a ruthless quagmire, a stagnant figure of oppression, and using his own facial visage to strike fear into his enemies is something I admire and respect. Because lets face it, his enemies are morons to me. Same goes for the entire Jedi Order.
Other than Maul's powerful development and training as a Sith apprentice, my other favorite moments in Star Wars are "Order 66", executed by Darth Sidious in Ep III, and carried out by his minions. When Mas Amedda (whom I love for knowing of Sidious' secret all along and conspiring with him to kill their enemies) lured all the Jedi scum into locations and tricked them to an extent that they were brutally massacred, I enjoyed it, it was a clever camouflage of prowess and unparalleled thinking. It's equivalent to DBZ's Saiyan genocide that was implemented by Frieza, Zarbon, and Dodoria; for whom I also hold dearest to my heart. Another of my favorites other than Maul for being militant and soldierly to his final breath, and Amedda for conspiring for so long and also remaining loyal, are Sidious... for being the guiding hand and the puppeteer of the illustrious Sith Order and creating and manufacturing chaos in order to reach his ends of galactic control, very admirable... and then Grand Moff Tarkin, whom also was a very militant and respectful man and followed orders distinctly and beautifully (brilliant job by Cushing as an actor) and he died beautifully and with emotional shattering when the Death Star exploded in the sky and we saw him in the middle of thought in the final moments of his life... a very sentimental moment for this powerful character.
Whom do I hate and detest in Star Wars? Simple. Traitors. Vader takes the cake the same way Vegeta and Android 17 do for me in DBZ and Wolverine in X-Men. Pretty much all the people who "act" like they are antagonists but end up being a conundrum of a hero or anti-hero. Those who betray the true villains are those I despise the most, because they act on their own accord and don't follow orders like my favorite characters. For example, Zarbon and Dodoria are my ultimate favorites in DBZ because they are not only designed beautifully and are appealing in their appearance, they also perish in a powerful manner and very brutally. I prefer characters who die in a memorable way as opposed to those who live and live throughout the entire series. Those who captivate the screen in a shorter amount of time do a better job for me than those who last forever, because through death... my favorites live forever in an immortal coil of a suspenseful demise. This is true for Maul the same way that it's true for all my other 600 or so favorite characters. What they share in common is a beautiful, and mesmerizing, yet at the same time, powerful and brutal demise. And I love that about them. Was my analysis helpful to you, dear comrade? I hope I've generally emphasized my love for these characters in an understandable and comprehensive manner. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:08, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Most of what you've explained applies to my love for Maul. My favourite scene from that movie is the moment he stabs Qui-Gon ruthlessly and to see the despair of the apprentice is a great pleasure. Even though i would have preferred if he lived to take the role of General Grievous which was his orignal purpose, his death was memorable and beautiful. I'm glad you took the time to explain so intensely and extended. But, i'd like to know your thoughts on Dooku and Grievous, two other villains of the Clone Wars era. Also, i share your despise for Vader, though for other reasons. My reasons is that he caused the end of the Clone Wars, a war i enjoyed. Palpatine's masterly cunning and brilliance is also a nice aspect of villainy, to mastermind both sides of the Clone Wars to achieve his goal and succesfully destroying the Republic is a great feat in my eyes. Even though some heroes can appeal to me, a villain of a series is often my favourite, because in the end a villains character is much more developed and appealing, both in characteristics and apperance. I often get my impression of a character through their appearance, like in DBZ my favourite is Broly, whos appearence and behavior appealed to me, since i like characters that causes great destruction. And my close second Friezas appearence is also beautiful and well constructed, and his mannerisms and behavior and destructive power appeales to me. I also tend to like characters who are mercenary's. Like Boba and Jango Fett. For someone who is hired for money to yet be loyal and die in service is a wonderful character to me. But what are your thoughts on Dooku, Grievous, Boba/Jango and other things i've talked about? P.S, it's nice to talk to another somewhat dedicated Star Wars fan. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 10:26, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
I love Dooku like I said. I love that he fell in the heat of battle and served loyally even though he was being tricked all along, used as a pawn/substitute for a greater scheme, so to speak. I love him for that strongly. Minor differential dear comrade. I'm not crazy about Grievous in general because he's a mechanical cybernetic unit... I generally don't like anything related to bots... I'm more of an organic character lover. For example, I strongly detest Gundam and Transformers and consider them to be two of the worst series ever due to my hatred of bots in general. As a character however, Grievous isn't detestable, I'm neutral to him. About Boba and Jango, I'm sorta neutral but I don't like their initial appearance as its borg-like, I didn't see them playing much of a role to be honest... and I liked how Windu took out Jango... because I didn't like Boba as a child, his appearance annoyed me so I enjoyed to see him suffer. About DBZ, I don't like Broly... I personally don't think he's a villain, but more of an antagonist who is mentally insane/unstable. He is, after all, a demented maniac bent on destruction... but he's not a calculating sadistic killer like Frieza and his men; he doesn't commit to genocide and predetermined evil. He's more of just a lunatic/psychotic than a calculating killer. I'm more fond of the very smart, developed, and overly dramatic villains as opposed to the ones who just want to destroy out of anger and hyper-psychotic tendencies. He's one loony maniac that Broly, and with a speech impediment to boot... and the whole obsessive compulsive with "Kakarot" and limited vocabulary, possible turrets syndrome, temper tantrums... and schizoid persona, he's overall more of a lunatic/sick puppy than a villain per se. Ultimately, my favorites in DBZ are, in this order: Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui, Jeice, Burter, Recoome, Guldo, Android 19, Pui Pui, and King Cold. I pretty much love these characters for their emotional and enigmatic deaths... and their sentimental development as villains; they portray a great deal of cowardice when they are executed, and I strongly, strongly, strongly love that about them. Morally speaking, a true villain needs to exhibit this trait of fear in order to be powerfully developed. My least favorite DBZ characters are: Vegeta (for betraying his master and comrades), Android 17 (for betraying his creator TWICE), Nuova Shenron (for betraying his own brother), and don't take this the wrong way: Broly, for betraying his own father and committing to patricide. I honestly felt Paragus to be one of the only other Saiyans I liked aside from Nappa and Raditz to be my only other acceptable ones. But yeah, like I said... my favorite scenes in DBZ, other than when Zarbon headbutts Vegeta consecutively eight times in a row in a brutal combination... is when Zarbon and Dodoria ruthlessly execute the little Namek children along with the elderly. Now that right there is what I enjoyed. Because unlike an on par fight, this was just sheer cruelty on screen and it surpassed all the other destructive tendencies witnessed. Nothing beats the look on a Namekian child's face before he gets butchered by Mr. Z and Mr. D. Plus they do it with such equal finesse and elegance. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:21, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
I like Grievous mostly because he's a fallen warrior that was foolen into crashing and then turning into a ruthless servant who died in service of the CIS, even though he disliked his leaders he followed their orders. He was loyal, yet brutal and cunning. And i too dislike the young Boba, but as a grown up, he shows great loyalty towards both the Empire and Jabba the Hutt, until his death he did service. And he's the rival of one of my least favourites, Han Solo. On the topic of Cyber/Robot characters, i tend to like the strict do-what-your-told policy of robots, and cyborgs such as Grievous with character yet loyalty. I see their mechanical parts as a sign of they being loyal, the only exception being Vader. I actually like Vegeta somewhat, not very much until recently when i read a very interesting Doujinshi/Yaoi where he and Kakarott falls in love. While in the canon DBZ universe, i find him somewhat annoying but i'm mostly neutral towards him. I never watched GT yet, so i don't know that much about Nouva, more than what's said on the Wiki. Though i believe that is most i need to know. But i do not care for characters i haven't seen. Broly i like much thanks to his appearence, since if i like a characters appearence the first time i see it, i generally like the character, unless this character is being a completely despiseable douche. I also like characters with insanity and lunatic tendensies/behavior. Not like Janemba and other monsters, but characters whom are mentally instable and raging, somehow that appeals to me, since they have no scruples and their never going to switch side, they're incapable of it. Broly is a character whos silence fits his character, i would not like him that much if he spoke like anyone else, it wouldn't fit him. Zarbon is a character i like, again for the first impression and his appearence. Though i dislike Dodoria for the same reason. I disliked his appearence from the start, and his behavior only annoyed me more. Then when i saw "Bardock: The Father of Goku" special, i stated to dislike him for damaging Bardock and killing his crew. Since i happen to fond saiyans. But Zarbon is one of my favourites in the series, like number 15. I also like characters who dedicates their life to kill someone, or are obsessed with something so badly, they die for it. I find the scene's where they destroy Broly disturbingly bad. I don't consider them worthy of ending a character who are build up to be so strong, to be defeated with one punch respectively three regular saiyans. As i've said, i like characters oftenly for their appearenc, which causes me to like heroes aswell, but ultimately, my favourites are almost always villains/antagonists. I do agree though that Broly's no villain, but his character appeal to me alot. Though i generally dislike the Legendary Super Saiyan transformation. I think he seems a bit too lunatic. The regular Super Saiyan form is way better in my opinion. He seems pretty normal in appearenc, and he got the silent killer instinct look on his face. He's also very handsome in this form, which appeales to me even more. I also like some heroes as Supreme Kai, who are supposed to be gods and overly beings. Like in One Piece, the character Eneru is greatly appealing to me. My favourite scene of Dragonball is probably the end of the Dragonball series when they reminice over the years they've known eachother after Goku defeated Piccolo. A touching moment. I greatly despise all chapters/episodes after Kid Buu's defeat, when Goten and Trunks are grown up, and everybody's aging. And GT's only worse. I'm dissapointed with the outcome of these chapters, and the severe aging of characters, though it' nice with a series that allows aging, the things after Kid Buu is just wrong for me. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 19:33, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Honestly, I hate Saiyans in general. The only Saiyans I remotely like are Nappa, Raditz, and Paragus and that's because they're the only official villains. I pretty much hate all the heroes (literally all) and I... very much, and I mean very much loved how Dodoria butchered the Saiyan scum and pummeled Bardock... that to me was Godly. I also consider Saiyans to be monkeys because I hate their look for the most part (they look like average humans without any alien palette). What I enjoyed the most was how Zarbon and Dodoria suggested to Frieza to literally commit to the genocide of the Saiyan race and eradicated the Saiyan scum altogether... sorry I feel very happy about that. But, what I didn't like was that they left jerks like Vegeta and Goku alive, and that resulted in their own downfall years later. It was an error in judgment, but primarily an error in Frieza's judgment. Zarbon had suggested that every last one of them be butchered. And Dodoria later confirmed that he would not have made the same decision as Frieza about sparing Vegeta's crummy carcass. And I just love their look too. I love alien characters with different skin tones and palettes. Hence, it's understandable why Maul owns the rest in Star Wars the same way Zarbon and Dodoria own for me in DBZ. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 20:49, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
I kinda like the pure-blooded saiyans due to their personality and their appearence. I tend to like some characters that you're "supposed" to like, such as Bardock who is the protagonist of his TV special. Some protagonists are appealing to me, though not all. Hence why my favorites usually ends up being Antagonists. I will probably always dislike Dodoria, due to that i disliked him from the beginning. My favorites are almost always attractive in my eyes. So that's one thing almost all my favorites share in common. In Star Wars though, since it's a live-action series i usually go by characteristics, though Maul's gruesome appearence is appealing to me, his character is why i really like him. But yeah, in Mangas and Animes my favorites are 90% of the time attractive in my eyes. The other tn percent needs to be greatly appealing in character and behavior for me to have them as favorites. Though usually, these two combines. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 12:55, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

List of Symbols

The List of Symbols page claims Goku wore Kami's Kanji. Could you happen to be able to verify this? I don't remember Goku ever wearing it in Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z. SuperTron500 (talk) 08:19, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I honestly don't remember what kanjis Goku himself wore... but it's possible that he did wear Kami's, even for a short time. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:01, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
I guess i'll just ask around. It shouldn't be there if Goku never wears it in the anime or manga. I never saw it on him in the anime so i'm assuming if he did at all it was in the manga. Goku's kanji never changes in Dragon Ball, just in Dragon Ball Z after he recieved training from King Kai. If it was infact the manga then it might be worth noting, if i can get it confirmed. If we never see him wearing Kami's kanji then it is pure speculation that he did wear it. SuperTron500 (talk) 00:33, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
If in fact it's speculation, then it needs to be removed, in that case. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:37, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Line breaks

What exactly causes line breaks. You didn't specify i caused them in Mr. Popo's article, but i wanted to find out what causes them anyway incase i caused ANY because i don't want to end up getting blocked for it. SuperTron500 (talk) 05:55, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It's likely one of two things. The internet browser or search engine being used (example: Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox) or it is likely from the editing tools being used. I've found other oddities being left from different editing tools used, such as (nbsp) type additives in the middle of phrases, these are also problematic as much as the line breaks. Whether it's the browsers or the editing tools, or a combination of both, it's a great dilemma and we need to combat this strongly. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:22, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like this site very much

If you're not too busy with your tracking you should totally delete I like this site very much. I suspect it may be vandalism. SuperTron500 (talk) 11:45, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Not exactly vandalism. More like a non-wiki article from someone who misunderstood that you're not allowed to create such articles. I was actually on my way to report the same page to PZ^^. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 12:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like extract boloney

I don't want to directly call it vandalism because i don't know for sure what it is. I do find it uncanny that frequent edits like these are being made almost daily as of late. SuperTron500 (talk) 07:28, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Personally i feel stuff like this is the reason only registered contributers should be allowed to make edits, that way we wouldn't have to deal as much with vandals or miscellaneous edits made by people who don't read the welcome page. Though i suspect many of them are kids. SuperTron500 (talk) 07:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I Alerted him to the article a couple of hours ago,when he wakes up he'll deal with it... --Silver Sinspawn 07:35, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not like i expected him to anytime but. Thanks for telling me you alerted him, i guess. SuperTron500 (talk) 10:52, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
If these articles/spam aren't deleted instantaneously, they will be within the twenty-four hour range so there's no immediate rush; they will eventually be deleted by myself or one of my comrades. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

New Image

Since I was told to tell you before replacing an image. I'm planing to replace an image of Pui Pui. New (

That replacement seems fine because it's the same exact screenshot in better quality. Continue to notify me for any other villain article image changes, and I will let you know. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 15:58, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

So it's okay to replace an image as long the new(of course, of a better quality) picture is the same screenshot/scene?

As long as you alert me of it beforehand. The likes of which I mentioned to you, are already of fine quality and don't need to be altered. I'm primarily only tracking the villain articles, so whatever infobox changes are made to the hero related articles I am unconcerned with. But for the villains, since I would have to re-check any changes made, I would of course appreciate any heads up prior to it, because if it isn't to my liking, then I will just have to revert it. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:17, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Quote of the Day

Hello. I'm new to DB wiki. i would like to suggest a quote. It's from Gogeta in Fusion Reborn. it's one of my favorite quotes.

"Every voice you create has an echo. Your own bad energy will be your undoing." Ztr9 16:53, November 15, 2009 (UTC)Ztr9

I shall move it to the suggestion section for future usage on any given date. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:16, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Ztr9 17:18, November 15, 2009 (UTC)Ztr9


Could i just ask... What makes you like zarbon so much ???—This unsigned comment was made by Rossjnd (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Read through my talk page to find more reasons. But to cut it short... handsome, elegant, ruthless, well-designed, colorful, dies loyal, these are contributing factors. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:38, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Articles by User:Dbzpro2matrix that are useless that should be deleted.

I discovered that a few articles are created by this troublemaker that should be deleted (or in other words, redirect.) Could you block him please. Goku ssj4 kamehamehaSPVII Logo NewSilverPlaqueVII;talk contrib SPVII Logo NewVlcsnap-2009-12-24-23h25m18s113

That user actually contacted me, apologized, and asked how he could delete the one article he accidentally created. I have since taken care of it, and I do not recommend a block, seeing as it was a (mostly) self-resolved accident. -- 21:59, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Something Funny

So as I was giving a block to a consistent vandal today, I accidentally switched the reason and time. I immediately noticed my mistake and went to fix it using the block shortcut on the IP block page. However, I clicked the wrong block button, and subsequently, infinitely blocked myself, lol. EPIC FAIL. I quickly fixed it, and no harm was done other than me creating a block history for myself, but I just thought you'd get a laugh out of that. Have a good one. -- 03:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Epic Fail? More like Uber Epic funny. Lolzeth! But all's well in the end. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:26, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

can u add people as your friend and are u getting DB RAGING BLAST

bad image

princezarbon supersayin4 has pictured a naked woman picture

I've proceeded to remove the spam and block the user in accordance. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:17, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


prince zarbon r u there?


i like dragon ball z to a lotAlicezzz2 01:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)alicezzz2

uh... ok... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:16, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

who do you like on dragon ball z i like goku alicezzz2

have you ever thought of checking my user page... ? I have one hundred characters listed that I love... all villains though, I don't like heroes. My three most favorites are Zarbon, Dodoria, and Cui. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

zarbon is cool but he is a little funny looking to me Alicezzz2 01:29, November 17, 2009 (UTC)alicezzz2

you don't need to create separate sections, just edit under the same one. I don't like any regular looking characters because they are lame to me. I only like colorful ones and aliens. I hate the human-looking people. When it comes to DBZ, I am very racist because I like aliens and demonic characters. Zarbon is a reptilian beast and a dynamic of the blue-skin beauty and the beast at the same time. He's got a Schizoid personality where he is handsome and elegant and at the same time brutal and sadistic in his grotesque form. He's my ultimate favorite, but I like all the alien characters. I hate all the saiyans because they look lame and boring to me (minus Nappa and Raditz because they have very nice attitudes.) - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:33, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

the sayions are not boring i like all of them evein goku alicezzz2

That's why it's called your opinion. We're all entitled to our own opinion. I personally am only a fan of villains, no heroes. So the only Saiyans I like are the evil ones. I dislike all heroes. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:46, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

your right you like all vilens and i like all heros so no matter witch way you look at it we can both have our own way alicezzz2

See how nice it is when people reach an agreement? You like Goku, I like Frieza. For every hero lover, there's a villain lover. It all works out perfect like a beautiful enigmatic puzzle. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:06, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

King Cold


Cold's dome is BLUE! this is laughable

I would like to know what makes you think that King Cold's dome is dark blue.

I swear to god, allah, buddha, the supreme kai and any and all powers, if you try to revert King Cold's head/dome color, I will be forced to ban you... and of course recommend that you get your eyes checked because you're likely colorblind. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 04:50, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you look closely at the picture on the article, because it clearly looks dark green.

Is there an opthamologist or optometrist near you... I suggest you get your eyesight checked, because you clearly want to create conflict. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 05:32, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Look, I don't want to create conflict. But I know dark green when I see it. I even asked a bunch of people and they all say it is dark green. But I will admit there is some dark blue in it.

Looks kind of like a dark aqua to me. I have to admit that it looks bluish and greenish. -- 06:00, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
I'm not going to argue about this. It's blue. It's not green. lol. For example, Zarbon is blue skinned. Green haired. He is not green skinned. Not aqua. King Cold's dome is not green. It's blue. This is not up for debate. King Cold is essentially one of my top ten. ^_^ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:08, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Look why don't we ask another administrator to decide this? Does that sound fair?

Absolutely not. What part of this is not up for debate do you not understand? - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:13, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it's blue in that picture, but it's not blue on the article.

because that one image you are referring to is a cel image. It's from a cel shot, not from a screenshot. I'll proceed to remove it if it bothers you so much. It's the second one right, the one where there's rocks floating? It's a cel image, not a screenshot. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

It's sort of a bluish green and if you don't agree, watch this vid. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT IN ENGLISH!

Videos are not allowed on the wiki. This is getting out of hand. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:36, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Did you even watch it? Why are videos not allowed anyways?

Youtube/Google links are not allowed! Do you want to challenge that notion too for some odd reason? We aren't going to allow them on the wiki... they've been removed prior on countless occasions as regular housekeeping. They are systematic cause for inter-wiki problems; we simply don't allow video links. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:44, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Well no one told me that!

Sorry mate. You're right, the error is on our part. We may need to have a warning up in regards to the video links not being allowed. We might put up a warning on the main page or even maybe the automated messages. However, other questions and answers might be aided through the current MoS [manual of style]. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:52, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

PZ has asked me to intervene in this matter. I happen to agree that in the television show the dome on King Cold's head appears to be a very dark combination of green and blue. However, the picture show here clearly portrays it as blue. I am therefore going to make an adjustment to the article which represents both versions portrayed by the official media sources. I hope this serves to end the conflict in a way which satisfies all parties. As for the video, these are definitely not allowed on the site. While no one may have told you this, it is your responsibility to read over our policies before editing. Obviously, we will be forced to remove inappropriate content. -- 06:54, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you my sweet comrade. Now I can get some sleep today. Love ya all. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:55, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds fair to me.

New Images

Final Burst Cannon

King Kai's Planet

Yes or no?

The images are fine mate. Like I said, the only time you should bring it up is if it's a villain's infobox (example: like you did for Pui Pui). Otherwise, I allow you to switch these at your leisure. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:06, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Oh I see. Thanks!

King Cold

do you like king cold alicezzz2

Check my user page... you'd see that he's #10 on my favorites list... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:51, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

i see it thats cool alicezzz2

Bulla, Android 18 and Marron's pages

Hi, First of all, sorry for my English, it may be not perfect. The ir a user called Super Saiyan 4 that is always changing pics unecessary, erasing things with his edits (look Marron's page right now). Can you please talk to him in order to control his messy contributions.

Thanks in advance. I don't want this sound as a personal attack, is not. But it annoys me a lot every morning seen this guy changing everything wrongly.

Regeneration page

On the Regeneration page the title for the Tien segment is "senzu," Why is this? Does it mean like Senzu like the bean? that doesn't make much sense to me, I was going to change it to something like 'Myths' or 'Fictional Claims' but I thought I'd ask first. Dragula42 06:22, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

Been Meaning to ask

Also I've had this question for a while, as well as a few others, but this one I really think needs changed. I believe that the Medas drain ki (energy) from an individual and therefore should go under the energy absorption page and not the absorption page. Tell me what you think, thanks. Dragula42 06:27, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

Interesting observation. Energy absorption is a form of "absorption" still; if anything, it can be listed on both. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:03, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, but that unfortunately raises a new question in my mind. Would the Androids energy absorption techniques also go under both articles then? and if so, is there a point for having two articles?Dragula42 18:41, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42
Generally speaking, I have no personal opinion on the matter. Try asking some of my comrades about this. I do feel that both articles are necessary to differentiate the maneuvers... but at the same time, some would go under both I'd assume. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 18:45, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Another Question

I was planning on searching the wiki for all 'Tao Pai Pai' and changing them to 'Mercenary Tao,' for the purpose of consistency. However whenever I search for 'Tao Pai Pai' it leads me to Mercenary Tao's page, how do I get the wiki to show me all the pages that say 'Tao Pai Pai.' OR for example if I were to do the same for any character, say I wish to find all the pages that say "Goku" or all the pages that say "Vegeta," is this possible? Dragula42 19:02, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

I can't alter that for you... it has to do with the search engine you are using and the place you are typing it in (for example, advanced search) you would have to enter advanced search rather than the regular search in order to locate all the articles that contain a phrase such as "Tao Pai Pai" redirects. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:06, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
Ah! Advanced search Fantastic, that will make research much easier as well, tyvm. umm maybe a stupid question but uh, where is advanced search? *embarrassed* Dragula42 19:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42
Try typing in some random equation and it will bring you to default random advanced search. As follows:

- Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 19:22, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you good sir. Dragula42 19:34, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42


I don't think I've ever heard that one before. Of all the characters you could favor... Why do you like Zarbon so much? ChessMasterXZ 14:50, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

If you examine my talk page, I've already mentioned it prior. I only like villains. And I only like the ones who are killed brutally; and at the same time have exquisite colorful designs. Elegant, handsome, brutal, well-designed, etc. all plays a contributing factor; just look through my talk page for more... but in order for me to love a character, the character must be a villain and die brutally. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 14:53, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
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