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Orion Invictus

aka Orion

  • I live in Everywhere
  • My occupation is Supreme ruler of the multiverse
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Welcome

Hi, Blaziken rjcf, welcome to Dragon Ball Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Goku page.

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- PrinceZarbon (Talk) 22:20, April 4, 2011

Warning

First off, please do not insult other users or edit war. Conflicts should be civilly resolved on article talk pages. Calling another user stupid and sarcastically asking if he's blind only escalates the situation. If something like this happens again, leave a message on the article talk page or tell an admin. 

I completely understand where you're coming from. The "unknown female fighter" is obviously a Saiyan - she slightly resembles Cabba and can use (what appears to be) the LSSJ form. On this wiki, however, we like to avoid speculation on articles at all costs, leaving the reader to reach a conclusion based on actual facts. Even if it's painfully obvious that she's a Saiyan, we will not put that in the article until it's somehow confirmed in the series. For all we know, it could be Dr. Gero's brain in a robot body modeled after a Saiyan. — Final ChidoriTalk 19:22, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

From What I've Heard Of Spoilers From The Episode Titles, She's "Cabba's Sister" But This Could Be Considered Speculation As Well, As We've Never Seen It From An Official Source. Bob1200 (talk) 08:13, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

you said"SSG is a mortal ascended to the level of a god, whereas SSB is a mortal using godly ki. So, you decide: is a mortal using godly ki more powerful than a mortal turned god?" this isn't true

super saiyan god is a saiyan transformed into a god, super saiyan blue is also known as ssgss or super saiyan god super saiyan. meaning its the same as super saiyan god(red) but has super saiyan stacked onto it. 


a better way of explaining it is, super saiyan god(or as i call it super saiyan red) is goku or vegeta using god ki while in base form. super saiyan blue is a super saiyan who has ascended to the rank of super saiyan god who also stacked super saiyan on top of it. meaning they are no longer in base. IE super saiyan blue is SSG1  'Actionmanrandell (talk) 09:17, November 1, 2017 (UTC)actionmanrandell'Actionmanrandell (talk) 09:17, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

Death of Super Shenron

Hi, I would like to signal you this discussion. I hope you will participate. Bye, Borticon (talk) 10:25, November 19, 2017 (UTC)

Kefla personality

This probably warrants in depth discussion, so I started one. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Kefla --Marhawkman (talk) 03:40, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

Yo Blaz

Listen up Blaziken, this all started when you tried to delete it as soon as I created it. Why start with me and not the others when Zero Mortals Plan was created. I'm don't want to start nothing but the way you acting over this keeps pulling me back. DragonEmeperor (talk) 20:37, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

I did not try to delete it. I marked it for deletion and moved the discussion to the talk page, which is what you're supposed to do. I didn't remove any content, I didn't try to stop you from building the article, I simply said "Hey, I don't think this should be here, so let's talk about it".

Orion (T-B-C) 20:40, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Do not remove this notice or blank this article.

Yo Blaziken - just wanted to give you a heads up on tagging articles for deletion. Don't blank the article.--Made up Character Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Things I do [mod] 22:26, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Why not, if it's blatant vandalism? The intent behind that rule is to prevent edit wars over potentially useful articles. Vandalism has no place on a wiki, period.

Orion (T-B-C) 22:31, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

So the admins know everything about the article.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  22:49,11/28/2017 

It was made by Danilo chaves. Based on his entire edit history on this wiki, that's enough to classify it as vandalism.

Orion (T-B-C) 22:52, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

It don't matter after an article is tagged for deletion it is left as it was before it was tagged for deletion.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  22:55,11/28/2017 

It

It doesn't matter if I am keeping up with the show or not the MoS states "In-universe articles should be written in present tense" so therefore it should be present tense saying "was" is past tense.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  21:11,12/4/2017 

It is ok the only articles meant to be in past tense are the Out-of-Universe articles.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  21:17,12/4/2017 

RE: U6 Namekians Edit

My bad. Misinterpreted what they said.--Steveo920 (talk) 01:23, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm a dumbass. 

Sorry, I'm a dumbass.  DeletedTheEngieDeletedTheEngie (talk) 19:50, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

List of consistencies

They were rolledback they still count as inconsistencies is why.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  22:35,12/28/2017 

What does? I removed some fan-made inconsistencies ("Why didn't character X just use power Y to solve problem Z?") and others that were not inconsistencies at all (Bulma lied about her age, which is made clear in the arc, if you're paying the slightest bit of attention). I also removed some attempts by fans to make the inconsistencies (that actually are inconsistencies) look better by claiming they have some in-universe explanation, which is just fan speculation that has zero basis.

I can only conclude you didn't actually read what I removed and just rollbacked my edits because you saw I was cutting down on the article length.

Orion (T-B-C) 01:19, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

I read every bit of what you removed and I even read your edit summaries. I can only conclude that you don't actually know what an inconsistency is and why the possible in-universe reason it happened is there. An inconsistency is something that shouldn't be like that when it was something else before or it makes no damn since like how in the hell did Krillin go from being in Saiyan Battle Armor to his Turtle Hermit Gi so damn quick or why in the hell did Bulma's hair change colors, Those are inconsistencies right along with the fact that in the Funimation Dub Dende asked Mr. Popo to go get the first aid kit when Dende has Healing abilities. Now the explanations help us understand why that possibly happened. Also your reasons for removing something that everyone (including you) had excepted after so long are not valid especially the ones that are inconsistencies and explaining them.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  02:14,12/29/2017 

There are many in-universe reasons for why something could have happened. Infinite reasons, in fact, and none of them matter, because all of them are fan speculation and nothing more. Furthermore, what I removed were not inconsistencies in any way, shape, or form. Bulma lied (clearly indicated by her attempting to silence someone who corrected her), Dende was an idiot. That's it. Now, if Dende had said he couldn't heal someone, for example, that would've been an inconsistency.

As for your "age" argument (not to mention telepathy, since you apparently know what I accept), that's just silly. I can name literally a million things that many people accepted for a long time that were still inequivocally wrong, because that's not how reality works.

Orion (T-B-C) 02:19, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

A bit of insight

Hello, just would like some "approval" or some "critique" on an idea for the Violent Fierce God Slicer (scythe) article. As you may know, it has been properly named in games like Dokkan Battle and FighterZ. And it is in clear need for separation because the names refer to separate techniques as well. I have two ideas: first is to have three articles referring to the scythe "Scicle of Sorrow", the rift "The Work of the Gods", and the combo rush attack "Chaotic Dance". The other idea is to have The Work of the Gods and Chaotic Dance merged into one, but have the rift be in either the first or second article. What do you think? SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 02:48, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

To put it bluntly, I don't care. After being here a while, I see why people don't like this wiki nor its administration. Unfortunately, it is the one populated by the smallest number of weeaboos, as evidenced by their usage of the English language in articles as opposed to Japanese transliterations.

Orion (T-B-C) 11:05, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

Vegeta SSG color image

This is an official image [1], It is the only color image that shows his face well.--Sharingan91 (talk) 20:40, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

I tried finding that image on that website, but I was unable to. I can find the colored cover image and a black-and-white version that has more details, the latter of which seems to be the basis for the image you're adding, but I couldn't find an official colored image like that. Can you link me to it?

Orion (T-B-C) 20:46, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

At the bottom of the page.--Sharingan91 (talk) 20:49, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
I see it now. Thanks.
Orion (T-B-C) 20:51, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
^_^ Furthermore, Toyotaro in Twitter shared this image (7 November 2017), ;-) . [2] --Sharingan91 (talk) 20:54, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Frieza

Hello friend, can you help me with something. i want to create the frieza article in albanian language. is this possible?? Sadsadas 2 (talk) 15:52, January 8, 2018 (UTC) Sadsadas2

It's possible, but only on the Albanian language wiki for Dragon Ball, if it exists.

Orion (T-B-C) 19:22, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

David Gray

Are you aware that David Gray is only a pseudonym for James Marsters? Shugesh (talk) 23:50, January 22, 2018 (UTC)

I'm aware that many people claim that, but nobody seems to be able to provide a single source.

Orion (T-B-C) 23:51, January 22, 2018 (UTC)

I can send you to a source and it's Geekdom101. He mentions in one of his videos that David Gray is James Marsters

LokeTheBrave (talk) 19:11, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

An official source. I can make a video saying he's not if I chose to.

Orion (T-B-C) 19:13, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

Watch James Marsters' TV and film roles and you'll hear they are the same personDagonX (talk) 05:15, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

An official source, please.

Orion (T-B-C) 07:08, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Insulting Me? Really?

Any reason you chose to take a pot shot at me? I never once disrespected you. I just have a very direct way of speaking. You, however, insulted my intelligence, attacked my personality, and chose to rudely degrade me. I understand you thought I was insulting you, but I made no indication that it was a personal attack. You, however, attacked me personally. Please do not insult another person's intelligence like that. It's disgusting. ExyleCage (talk) 22:37, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

And you are...?

Orion (T-B-C) 22:40, February 18, 2018 (UTC)


i don't know what your problem is with insulting people, but i'm reporting you to adminstration Nikon23 01:47, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Beyond Super Saiyan Blue

Ok. I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm slightly offed at you noting an "obsession" with my edits to Vegeta's new form. I just keep track of my edits ad when they're changed. "Beyond Super Saiyan Blue" was even noted as an unofficial title and described as a power rather than a title in it's opening paragraph. This was even before the current change to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Evolution. I was accurately trying to keep the article in a more sensical format. I didn't make time to take it to talk, but please don't insult my person as some guy obsessed with particular edits...Banan14kab 20:27, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

You can't simultaneously say that you keep track of all your edits and also say you're not obsessed. Nevertheless, your edits were reverted several times and you kept going back to change it, so you do come off as kind of obsessed. The fact that you didn't make time to take it to talk is not an excuse to disregard proper wiki protocol.

Orion (T-B-C) 21:13, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

It's just notice when my recent edits get changed. Really not that difficult. Sometimes I happen to revisit a page an notice. I do other things with my time. So if I came off as that that isn't my character or intention. I just kept seeing my edits changed. Also it takes more than one user to edit war. so was I the only user disregarding protocol? I thought I was making simple changes. That's what everyone does on here. What's the general rule of thumb? If I want to make a change it has to be discussed, but users can make changes when they want to? Banan14kab 21:43, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

The rule of thumb is: if your edits are disputed (which yours were, many, many times), you take it to talk and leave the article as it was before the disputed edits until you reach a consensus. So yes, you were the one disregarding protocol.

Orion (T-B-C) 21:58, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Ok. Banan14kab 22:08, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

About Ultra Instinct literal translation

I saw that you undid my last edit on the article Ultra Instinct, saying that This is supposed to be a literal translation.

The point I made in the talk page of this article is that Key of Egoism is actually a bad translation, even when going for a literal one. Japanese people certainly don't understand egoism anywhere when looking at the original Japanese terms because of the context in which they're used, as it's a misinterpretation. That's why I proposed the more correct literal translation The Secret of the Body [Moving] on its Own, with what's between bracket being implied.

Anyway, at first and without any context, Japanese would literally understand Migatte no Gokui as the Secret to Selfishness. I wonder why people of this wiki settled for Key of Egoism. I think that most people reading Key of Egoism won't even understand what it's supposed to mean.

Xinyingho (talk) 00:02, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Asking for forgiveness.

Hi Orion,

I remember our first discussion and I'll make sure to not ignore what other people were saying.

"We are not makers of history, we are made by history." (talk) 02:03, March 10, 2018 (UTC)Spinopharoah 2:03:15


Sorry about that

Hey, sorry about editing your message on Talk:Jiren. It was an accident; I highlighted "Anilaza" to look up the character, but I must have hit the space bar— deleting the word— without noticing. Was never my intent to edit the comment. — Charchetype (talk) 07:57, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Correction

I noticed you added a pluralization to a borrowed word that is already plural? I removed the "s" because "Anime" is a borrowed word. If you were to say multiple anime and manga, you'd not require an "s".JoJolion (talk) 07:19, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Like "ninja" and "samurai", as well as a bunch of other, non-Japanese borrowed words, there's nothing wrong with pluralizing them according to the rules of the "borrower language". In fact, the very idea of "borrowed words" is that they become part of the language that borrowed them, thus adhering to its own grammatical rules. Animes is just as acceptable as anime.

Orion (T-B-C) 07:47, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

As someone who's studied linguistics, I don't think you know anything about language theory judging by that argument, but that's fine. Have a lovely day. :)JoJolion (talk) 04:53, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

That's what I was taught by people who did study linguistics, and you're forgetting the main thing about languages - they're defined by the people who speak them, and not the people who study them. "Animes" is widely used by English speakers.
Orion (T-B-C) 07:29, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

I normally wouldn't jump to Orion'd defense over anything, but he's right on this. It doesn't matter if you studied linguistics. If something is widely accepted, then it is usually considered the correct way of doing something. The way Orion pluralized the word "anime" is completely acceptable in the english language. ExyleCage (talk) 05:01, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

Calamity Blaster

I have already left a message for discussion on the talk page of Calamity Blaster, a while before I made the edit. Then I made an edit and had it reverted several times before a discussion has been had about it. Unless I need to leave a comment on DragonEmeperor's page as well I do believe I've done my due dilligence.Tenevhrael (talk) 09:13, April 16, 2018 (UTC)


Fanon Wiki

Hakai does sending the souls to the Other World in Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki, in my version. Zekons (talk) 11:00, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Apologizing

Yo, Orion. Gonna be honest here. I've said some things to you in the past that I'm not fond of. I just wanted to apologize for that. So, I'm sorry. ExyleCage (talk) 19:59, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

Water under the bridge, but you have my respect for apologizing.

Orion (T-B-C) 19:14, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Cooler

Really? Cooler can't use instant transmission? The second most famous user of Instant Transmission?--Marhawkman (talk) 15:04, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

When did he use it?

Orion (T-B-C) 19:15, April 29, 2018 (UTC) He was first seen using it in Dragon Ball Z: The Return of Cooler, and has used it in pretty much every appearance since. Seriosuly... it's listed in the article in several places.--Marhawkman (talk) 00:24, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

I have seen it, which is why I googled it.

Hey, I saw the episode where Trunks transformed to his anger form, so I HAVE seen it.  It's still no excuse for a video giving spoilers about the rest of the season.  The article was about the form, the video told me Trunks kills Black.  See how that was unnecessary? Game Thruz (talk) 16:55, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

You can mute the videos as well. Bottom line is, only Wikia has any control over those videos.

Orion (T-B-C) 17:00, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


Fine, I get that, are you an admin?  If you are then you can talk to someone to get the video removed yes?  If not you're wasting my time with your conceit. Game Thruz (talk) 22:39, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

No, I'm not, and I don't think even admins can get it removed. It's part of Wikia's attempt to minimize on-screen ads. I'm just giving you advice on how to deal with it without having it removed (which, as far as I know, is impossible). I don't see why you have a problem with that.

Orion (T-B-C) 06:45, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

If you're not adming perhaps you shouldn't talk down to people as if they're stupid. 

I have no problem with you trying to help me, or the fact that it can't be removed, but I don't need to be told not to read something if I haven't seen it yet, thanks.

Excuse me for trying to contribute so other people don't have the story ruined for them as well.

Perhaps you shouldn't reply to people if you're just going to be that arrogant. Game Thruz (talk) 20:35, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

You wouldn't have been the first nor the last user to come to a wiki and complain about spoilers. Too many people do that. I was wrong to assume you were one of them, but it wasn't arrogant of me to assume it. My assumption was based on my personal experience with complaints like yours, since the majority of people with that complaint are actually too stupid to avoid spoilers on their own.

Orion (T-B-C) 20:41, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

About List of Sagas

Hey, I may be a little new here but why did you remove the Toei sagas section? They are the official Japanese versions of the sagas, I mean the Toei sagas are in every single DB series so why not put them in one page? WBC the Seijin Fan (talk) 14:04, May 23, 2018 (UTC)WBC the Seijin Fan 5/23/2018

Trivia

Care to explain to me why my trivial edit was removed comparing Goku and Starfire? ChocolateElemental (talk) 08:41, July 5, 2018 (UTC)

I only saw that your edit inserted a bunch of nonsense into the article. That's why I reverted it.

Orion (T-B-C) 09:32, July 5, 2018 (UTC)

Why do you guys keep reverting the Turles information when the sole source you guys are relying on - which is a third-party magazine, by the way - is contradicted by direct guides from Toei both before and after the publishing date of that V-Jump article? And then offering no explanation?Jjgp1112 (talk) 13:50, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Excuse me?

You know, you keep throwing around that I’m starting an “edit war”, but who’s the one constantly undoing my edit with a source? Maybe rather than completely erasing my edit, change it, add “whether those two are the same person remains to be seen”. You see, this is why I get frustrated with you guys here. I will add that edit again, this time alter to not imply anything (something you should’ve done instead of being all talk) until this issue is dealt with. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 00:39, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

You made edits based entirely on speculation that I disagreed with, so I reverted them, as is my right as an editor, and told you to take it to the talk page, as is your duty as the person who made them. Instead, you were stubborn and decided that your edit was perfectly fine, so my disagreement was obviously irrelevant, and decided to start an edit war.

It's not on me or anyone else to fix your stuff, no matter how much you want to believe otherwise. You were at fault.

Orion (T-B-C) 09:01, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

Hit's Trivia - List of people that killed Goku which includes Frieza

You can't count Frieza killing Goku in Xenoverse 2 in that list. Video Game kills do not count toward the main series kills.

LokeTheBrave (talk) 18:57, September 11, 2018 (UTC)LokeTheBrave

The trivia point says "franchise". Games are part of the franchise.

Orion (T-B-C) 18:58, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

No, the games are apart of a different set of franchise from Dragon Ball. They're not the main franchise, therefore they don't count.

LokeTheBrave (talk) 19:00, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

A franchise is the total sum of all licensed materials related to a certain subject. This includes games, comics, cartoons, magazines, and so on. You are in the wrong here. Take it to the article's talk page if you want more confirmation, but stop edit warring.

Orion (T-B-C) 19:02, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Heroes

Hi, why you cancelled the official link i added for Dragon Ball Heroes (Avatars)?  Carloalberto95 (talk) 21:23, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

As I understand it, it's not OK to add links to other websites in the middle of articles.

Orion (T-B-C) 21:24, October 3, 2018 (UTC)


Where can i put it? Can you help me? Did you open the link? Is very helpful Carloalberto95 (talk) 21:27, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Just put it as a reference at the start of the article. Do you know how to do that?

Orion (T-B-C) 16:48, October 4, 2018 (UTC)


Nope. Carloalberto95 (talk) 16:57, October 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hello! I am Stacie from London. Well, I am quite new here so I wanted to ask if you could help me out? 

Cure Amour89 (talk) 11:25, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

July Broly Edit

Sorry if this bothers you, I just wanted to make sure you understood this and that I'm not trying to staft an argument with you in anyway. I noticed you put a report about me to Bullza's page saying I added headcanon to the page. Just wanted to let you know that I've only ever edited the Broly pages for grammar and not information, as I tend to avoid adding information if I don't pay attention to a character. The headcanon was probably something with incorrect grammar I was trying to fix. Again, sorry I brought this up. I just have this need to explain my actions when they've been misinterpereted. (Probably spelled that last word wrong. Never could spell that word.) ExyleCage (talk) 05:37, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

Hi dude i hope you're having a good time right now. Sure you remember me for the thread i made about Jiren's fighting style, something it caught my attention was one of you comments saying TV tropes is not a reliable source. ¿Are you speaking for experience with the site? Oghta (talk) 04:13, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

Gine Edit Error

Thanks for fixing my error, while trying to update that she did indeed died during Planet Vegeta's destruction as shown in the movie I broke the character box and by the time I noticed it was already fixed. That's what I get for using a tablet to edit instead of a computer.Masgrande (talk) 22:26, January 11, 2019 (UTC)

Daikaioh is NOT accurate

Daikaioh is NOT accurate. He's Dai Kaioshin (Grand Supreme Kai)

Hi, it's been a long time, don't know if you remember me but i did a thread in this wiki a time ago. Did you watch the movie of Broly? The new.Oghta (talk) 18:25, February 23, 2019 (UTC)

Quotes for Super and Broly

I'm creating the quote pages for DB Super and I started with Dragon Ball Super: Broly (Quotes). I'm asking all users who are good with quotes to help adding them in. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:58, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

I assume you'd require English quotes, right? The movie has not been released in my country, and it's unlikely they'd release the English dub.

Orion (T-B-C) 13:58, February 28, 2019 (UTC)

Its released online on some of the anime sites. DragonEmeperor (talk) 20:02, February 28, 2019 (UTC)
I forgot to reply, my apologies.
Regardless, I'm already the de facto "quote guy" on another wiki and really can't be bothered to do it here.
Orion (T-B-C) 11:34, March 16, 2019 (UTC)
Alright. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:50, March 16, 2019 (UTC)

let me explain this to you as clear as I can.

"  If the long blonde hair is Super Saiyan 3 and the red body hair is Super Saiyan 4, what is the giant monkey form in between them called?
–Angelica, Phoenix, Ariz.

While any Saiyan can turn into a giant monkey–called the “Oozaru” form in the Japanese–when he looks at a full moon (Goku does a few times in DB and his son Gohan does it once in DBZ), this is a special mode only achieved after the Super Saiyan 3 level. "

The requirements for Golden Great Ape are possessing a tail and possessing the Super Saiyan 3 transformation and of course Blutz Waves are necessary. Now WHY do you think the SS3 form is necessary?? Because it is literally part of the transformation. Otherwise they would have never said Super Saiyan 3 was needed at all. Stop edit warring. SS3 is necessary to use Golden Great Ape. FlatZone (talk) 21:07, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Reading comprehension and logic are very important here. FlatZone (talk) 21:08, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Movies DBZ Canon

Orion Invictus, I know you do not know about the Canon or Non-Canon of the Dragon Ball Z movies, because it was revealed in Daizenshuu 6 that Akira Toriyama said that the 13 movies of Dragon Ball Z is considered a different a different dimension of the main story of the mangá is as it was parallel dimension as it were Janemba, Broly (DBZ), Cooler, etc. But less of the 2 movies of Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F', because the 2 movies is considered the canon just the like the movie of Dragon Ball Super: Broly what is canon, but the GT do not know if it is canon or not. If you do not know how to look List of Dragon Ball films in Daizenshuu 6. BabyKratosxZeus (talk) 03:07, May 19, 2019 (UTC)

"Considered", you say. Considered by who? Show me official documentation stating what is or isn't canon. I already know that there are as many opinions on "canon" as there are fans.

Orion (T-B-C) 07:45, May 19, 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to repeat the 13 films of Dragon Ball Z is considered the movies "as stories in a different dimension from the main story of the comic". I'm entirely just an audience member for them." Toriyama said. It's like a story in a parallel dimension understood, you are in sixth Daizenshuu volume are on the two sites looks: https://comicbook.com/anime/2017/02/21/dragon-ball-akira-toriyama-movies-canon/ https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/daizenshuu-6-akira-toriyama-super-interview/ BabyKratosxZeus (talk) 16:28, May 19, 2019 (UTC)

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