7,563 Pages
Meshack's Talk
Archive 1


There, I archived your page. I just used a random image and colors, so please tell me if you'd like anything else. Otherwise, it's pretty easy to edit yourself. It seems functional, but it's been a long time since I did this so hopefully there's no problems haha. -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 22:51, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Meshack (talk) 22:51, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

But Stan, why are you so mad, try to understand, that we do want you as an editor

I see even after you've been unbanned, you're still having edit wars. Let's exclude the instance of Pan and the other characters deaths and the undoings. I see you've had an edit war on the Innocent Buu and Majin pages (three days ago) over whether or not Majin is a race.

It's a chooseable race in many video games. In lieu of an actual race (Because Buu *was* created artificially) we choose to insert the next closest canon (video games) rather than leave a blank space. Any information (with citation) is good information, as long as it is correct. So if another option pops up, we'd keep both listed and mention where which came from. It's the reason we have races listed for people like Buyon. While they didn't come from the anime or manga itself, the extended universe can be considered a source for some form of information to place in.

I don't wish to war with you. Not at all. I want us to all get along so that we can edit this site properly. There are people who still think we're an unreliable source, and I'm hoping we can change that. We can't do that if people are edit warring. I follow your contributions, I see you delete a little more than you add. If someone differs in opinion, take it to the talk page, don't war. --Silver Sinspawn (talk) 19:42, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Are you undoing my edits just to spite me now? Please provide reasoning for what you do. --Silver Sinspawn (talk) 08:05, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

I saw your post before you edited it, and I'd like to mention that when Buu destroyed the earth, and only the good were wished back, we'd assumed that many *evil* characters were dead. But then later on we found out that Pilaf and Ginyu lived. We were wrong, because we speculated. If we go through and edit every character page to say they died when Frieza blew up the earth, we might still be wrong. The reason we can only mention characters who we see die is because we simply don't know if anyone else *did* die during that. We don't know who was on Earth, besides people we see. In this universe, where space travel and the like are possible, it's entirely feasible that characters could go on vacation to space or different time periods, etc. Bottom line is that unless we saw them die, we don't know if they did. --Silver Sinspawn (talk) 16:16, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

that's why it was undone. I saw your comment and you said it was speculative and so I undid my edit Meshack (talk) 20:34, February 18, 2016 (UTC)


But the anime is the correct canon, the manga is merely promotional. If it's Sadal in the anime, then it's Sadal. I'm changing it. Don't undo it. --Silver Sinspawn (talk) 21:34, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

even if it is promotion, it still calls the planet Salad. And saying, the anime is the correct canon", doesn't make any sense. it's the same situation as ssgss and super saiyan blue. just wait Meshack (talk) 21:35, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

The manga isn't written by Toriyama, the anime is. So when it's spoken as Sadal in the anime, it's Sadal. What do you want to wait for? They'll likely never cover it again, so we'd be sitting here waiting for the dub, while the rest of the world reads up on our false information we present. --Silver Sinspawn (talk) 21:40, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

what? toriyama is not writing the anime. he wrote the outline, the same one toyotaro is given. the thing is there're two names. don't change it from salad to sadal yet Meshack (talk) 21:41, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Fine. I'll leave it, for now. But I'm not sure we'll be seeing much confirmation any time soon. --Silver Sinspawn (talk) 21:45, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

we may get a guidebook for dragon ball super. and when that comes out, we'll change it to whatever that has. in the mean time, we can add both names to the page Meshack (talk) 21:48, February 21, 2016 (UTC)
Guidebook does not take precedence for article titles. Read the MoS. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:47, February 23, 2016 (UTC)


Can we skip the edit war? lol.

"Magetta has a resemblance to that of a robot's though he is a human."

Do you see how confusing that is, mate? Saying he's "a human" implies he is a member of the human race, in which he's clearly not. Saying he's "human-like", "humanoid", etc is different but still uneeded. Yes, he has human-like characteristics, but so does Frieza and just about every other character in the show. We're not going on Cell's page and saying he's "human", nor are we going on Piccolo's page and claiming he's "a human" either. -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 06:25, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

I know Magetta is not a Human but he's a human, meaning he is not a robot but an actual humanoid. I only added human because people would think he's a robot. Don't change it Meshack (talk) 06:27, February 28, 2016 (UTC)
"I know Magetta is not a Human but he's a human"
Are you joking? You *do* know that human isn't a proper noun, right? As in, "a Human" and "a human" are literally the same thing. You're claiming that Magetta is a member of the human race, which he's not. You didn't say he has "human-like qualities", you didn't say he's "humanoid", you straight up said that he's "a human". Also, please don't tell others what to do. Realize that you're not some special snowflake and that everyone else's opinions are just as valuable as yours. -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 06:35, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

Quick Tip

Just wanted to let you know that you can edit pages as a whole instead of clicking edit on each section and sorta flooding the recent activity page. It's not against the rules or anything, but it's much easier anyway (minus not getting extra edits in your edit count, but who cares about that?) -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 20:53, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

i know but i don't think about doing that all the time Meshack (talk) 20:56, February 28, 2016 (UTC)
Honestly, I'd reccomend using the classic visual editor/source editor (you can default it from your settings), it's so much better than the newer and buggy one. I personally edit a lot faster with the old one. Matter of preferences, though. -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 21:02, February 28, 2016 (UTC)
that's what i use and prefer Meshack (talk) 21:09, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Meshack,
If you find a better quality image of an image that is already in the wiki, please just replace the file by using the old image's File History. It will avoid creating duplicate. The Rush (talk) 21:15, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

I tried but an error happened. since you're trying to give people tips, try getting images that doesn't have numbers on them Meshack (talk) 01:07, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Meshack, did you prevent me from editing Frieza page?

Proper Nouns

Would you say that "Saiyan" is a proper noun? I'd wager it's not, because "human" isn't a proper noun either. Opinion? -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 00:37, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

The name of a race is a proper noun, is it not? Meshack (talk) 00:39, March 6, 2016 (UTC)
I know that "human" is not a proper noun, so I'd apply the same logic to "saiyan". "Super Saiyan" is a transformation/title. -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 00:42, March 6, 2016 (UTC)
"Nationalities/Race: Capitalize the proper names of nationalities, races, tribes, etc...."Writing 2 I think there's a difference between human and Human. Capital H Human is the race and lower case human is a living being but idk Meshack (talk) 00:48, March 6, 2016 (UTC)
A living being is an "organism". This is the best explanation I've found for  it. "Human" should be lowercase while "Earthling" is an actual proper noun. Also, where's the source on those episode titles being false? -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 02:32, March 6, 2016 (UTC)
Well, the next episode is "Turn Anger into Power! Vegeta's All-Out Battle!", which is not what we were given earlier. I think we shouldn't add episode titles when they are "leaked". we should wait until it is said in the episode Meshack (talk) 02:34, March 6, 2016 (UTC)
Did you get this from the episode preview? It could always be a faulty translator. The previous leaks were all accurate. -- Final ChidoriTalkContribs 02:42, March 6, 2016 (UTC)
Nah, this guy is the best translator known to Dragon Ball, Herms Meshack (talk) 02:44, March 6, 2016 (UTC)


Can I have the source on Frost being manipulative, please?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 05:04, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

HD images (talk) 06:35, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

maybe, manipulative is not the right word but he is sneaky. watch episode 34 Meshack (talk) 05:22, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

meshack.  I see that you are on often.  Maybe we should just talk.  You into that? —This unsigned comment was made by TNTDiscoCisco (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

yeah, sure. also, add you signature Meshack (talk) 22:41, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Why are you so intent on removing everything I have?  Why?  I do know what I am doing.  I'm just helping make all the pages better and adding necessary information.  Why are you ripping on me? —This unsigned comment was made by TNTDiscoCisco (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

  1. You add "trivia" but it's not trivia.
  2. When you were adding the quote, you messed the page up and you had no idea what you did because you use the crappy new editing system Meshack (talk) 23:33, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Alright.  But, what would you classify as trivia?  Because alot of people remove things I believe are trivia. —This unsigned comment was made by TNTDiscoCisco (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

something interesting like the character's hobbies, interests, popularity, favoirite foods, etc. things like this. a lot of the "trivia" on here is not trivia Meshack (talk) 23:45, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, join my wikia if you like animes and nice page. —This unsigned comment was made by Anthony1550 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Screenshot 2016-02-16 at 3.17.58 PM

Goku's Muscles


Instead of mass-reverting his edits, you may want to discuss the categories with Tiencha first. justsaiyan -- Final ChidoriTalk 02:35, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

i was going to... Meshack (talk) 02:36, March 12, 2016 (UTC)


The Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 HD Remastered released for PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC via Steam look this site: BabyKratosxZeus (talk) 21:21, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Wilt K (Added section for organization)

Why don't you let me contribute? —This unsigned comment was made by Wilt K (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Meshack isn't trying to stop you from contributing, he's just disputing your edits. If you believe that he's unjustified in doing so, feel free to solve the debate on the article's talk page. Everyone here is an editor and we all share an equal opinion. Also, please remember to sign your comments. -- Final ChidoriTalk 18:01, March 18, 2016 (UTC)
I'm only doing it because there's no need to change it unless it's a quote from DBZ Kai and you're changing a quote from DBZ. Other than that, there's no real need to change it. I should've said something to you about it Meshack (talk) 20:04, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

Help You

Friend needs your help, the Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 of Game Infobox not appear to release date, can you please fix the Vgrelease in Game Infobox please. Alexribeiro.soares.7 (talk) 19:56, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

okay Meshack (talk) 19:52, March 19, 2016 (UTC)


Meshack you are welcome to debate things on talk pages and you've seen how patient I am personally in discussing the Super versions issue with you for now 4+ months on the MoS talk page. What I won't put up with is that after you lose a debate and the community consensus is against you, you sometimes wait a few weeks then revert the change in the hopes that no one will notice. You are obviously doing this deliberately, and knowingly attempting to circumvent the rules. I caught you doing this twice now on the List of inconsistencies article. If you try and get around the rules and the community consensus to do whatever you want here, you will be blocked like you are now for 2 weeks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:55, March 23, 2016 (UTC)


Listen, I'm not gonna have this trivia debate with you even if you're gonna tattle, unless you're an admin of this wiki and I know for sure that trivia I've recently added is not necessary, only then I'll know for sure, if I want know this then I wish to know this from the admin themselves, not you. Only then I'll take it down once I've received confirmation from the administer. ThunderBeam707 (talk) 5:58, 4-3-16 (UTC)

Powers in video games

I'm not entirely against removing the video game part in each character's "Power" section, but don't you think we should leave in the parts about character's power in video game original story scenarios?--Neffyarious (talk) 15:42, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

Original stories, yeah. Those should be kept Meshack (talk) 15:45, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

In that case, I'm fine with you going ahead and removing the parts of the video game sections that are not about original stories.--Neffyarious (talk) 15:53, April 4, 2016 (UTC)


Please do not add new categories without asking an admin first. They add clutter, most ideas for categories do not add much value, and they are a big hassle to clean up when they need to be deleted. In particular, the "Universe 7 Characters" category is useless. There are a few Universe 6 characters as of the latest DBS episodes, so "Universe 6 Characters" is a good category. "Universe 7 Characters" is literally every other character in every other series and piece of media, so the category is going to encompass hundreds of characters with nothing to do with DBS making the categorization irrelevant. The universes is a DBS concept, and by calling out the Universe 6 characters the important distinction has already been made. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:02, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, but with the "Universe 7 Characters" I was only going to add the characters that're in the manga and Super. But you can delete it if you want Meshack (talk) 01:04, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
Same with the teams. Universe 6 Characters overlaps category:Team Universe 6 so we don't need two separate categories. Team Universe 7 is just Goku Vegeta Piccolo and the nipple guy, we don't need a category for a few guys fighting together briefly. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:08, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
In that case, sorry for adding the category to a bunch of other pages. I thought it was a legit category, whoops. Are you able to delete the whole category, or do we have to go back and remove them all manually? -- Final ChidoriTalk 01:05, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
The categories have to be manually removed from all the articles manually, it's a pain. This is why it's especially important to discuss categories before adding them—they take a long time to undo if needed. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:08, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Are the Team Universe 6 and Team Universe 7 categories okay? Meshack (talk) 01:09, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

I'll definitely help remove them, then. -- Final ChidoriTalk 01:23, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
Universe 6 Characters greatly overlaps category:Team Universe 6 so we don't need two separate categories. Team Universe 7 is just Goku Vegeta Piccolo and the nipple guy, we don't need a category for a few guys fighting together briefly. Categories should be used when it's something readers are likely to want a list of that they can't get elsewhere. No one watching DBS is curious about which characters are from Universe 7; it's basically every character. They won't be wondering who is on team universe 7 either, since they're all in the same frame in the few episodes they are united.
Examples of good categories are something like "characters who die and remain deceased" or "Demons" or "Androids" or "Fathers" where someone sees something that's not obvious who they all are and wants a list on the spot. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:33, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
Okay, the last few categories I made was DB Characters, DBZ Characters, etc. are those good? Meshack (talk) 01:51, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Ok.  BTW, how do you have 13,000 edits?  That is insane. —This unsigned comment was made by TNTDiscoCisco (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Again?  Why undo my part about Whis' personality?  What was the problem? —This unsigned comment was made by TNTDiscoCisco (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Edit Warring

Look man im gonna tell you,the letter V doesn't exist in the Japanese language,Kanzenshuu and Reddit often gives imperfect translations both aren't official resources,when a word that uses V in Japanese its replaced by a B,so stop the edit war or im gonna tell an admin that you are edit warring again. {{SUBST:Usuario:YonedgeHp/Firma}} 20:23, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

it wasn't even a war and it still doesn't change the fact that you're wrong Meshack (talk) 23:43, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

My Respects

Hello, I am NWG and I commend you for your drive to aim to change the wiki. I've seen you immensely involved to change the wiki and you have my respects. --New World God 12:06, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks lol Meshack (talk) 14:12, April 10, 2016 (UTC)


You are blocked for 1 month for edit warring. This is your second block for edit warring, and your fourth block overall. I'm sorry to see that you failed to follow the site rules barely 1 week after returning from your last block. You can't just make an edit 7 times in 6 hours with multiple other users telling you to stop and refuse to use the article talk page the whole time. You know the rules and my colleague blocked you for doing the same thing before. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:03, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Block #5

You had a pretty good run there, using SSGKakarotto to edit while you were blocked. I started to notice that he was acting a lot like you, and decided to dig into his editing periods. Funny thing was, he created his account 11/5/2015 after your 10/25/2015 block, and stopped editing before your 2 week block expired. Next, he edited from 2/2/2016-2/11/2016, while you were blocked from 1/30/2016-2/13/2016. Finally, he edited 4/17/2016-present, and you've been blocked 4/11/2016 to present. Your response to this message sealed the deal. You are now blocked for 3 months. Next time it's permanent. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:01, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

Why'd you ruin my perfectly good edit on the Beerus page?! (Neilstar007 (talk) 14:58, September 19, 2016 (UTC))


Why'd you ruin my perfectly good edit on the Beerus page?! (Neilstar007 (talk) 14:59, September 19, 2016 (UTC))

Welcome Back

Hey, just saw you got unbanned. Welcome back :) hopefully you follow the rules this time haha. -- Final ChidoriTalk 19:22, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

Shishishishi Meshack (talk) 19:25, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

And i really, really want you to slow down with your editing. you gonna turn into,Jeangabin666  you don't have to do 10 edits an hour every hour of every day. it's too fast, too much, it fills up the recent wiki activity page so i can't see what other users do.  and will eventually get you in trouble again and if you get banned again there is no way. NO way you will ever come back. you know this don't you. 0551E80Y (talk) 19:34, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

I don't know why Jean is but I'm pretty sure I edit for the better of the wiki because it's a mess. I'm trying to make it look more presentable and remove the bad stuff and keep the new stuff. You can't get blocked for edit... a lot. I'm not getting blocked again. I'm not the same user I was in May Meshack (talk) 19:39, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

I am the say way too. but you don't have to have edit litteraly every hour. it's too fast, you're going overboard with this. 10 times says that this is a 'community created wiki' which means everyone edits together not just one person doing al of it. i'm respecting that by only doing an edit on article once in a while, to me it's about the community. 0551E80Y (talk) 20:11, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

If stuff has to get done, it doesn't matter who does it. This wiki is lacking and I'm trying to help. You're doing nothing but just complaining how I'm doing everything while something should have been done while I was blocked. 20:15, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

No that's how you see it. and that way of thinking always invites conflict. you're determination to not only edit over every little thing but keep it like that will only spurn trouble for you. it seems you don't care about the community. 0551E80Y (talk) 20:22, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't be here if I didn't care. Meshack (talk) 20:26, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

so it's clear to me that this path you have chosen will eventually hit a road block that could result in you getting banned and ultimately you learned nothing but who knows only time will tell. and just slow down on your edits i'm not asking you to lower your high quality edits i want you to do less in a certian time period so others get their chance. is it really that hard?  0551E80Y (talk) 20:29, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

Probably not now Meshack (talk) 20:32, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

FIne, fine. i'll go i'm gonna take a break. i'll come back in 3 weeks. bye 0551E80Y (talk) 20:39, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

Dude Meshack, welcome back bro.  It feels like I haven't seen you in forever.  You may not remember me, but I remember you.  I didn't know you were banned, and I can't imagine how you could have done something so bad you were banned for like a month or something like that.  You missed alot of additioin on this page.  I mean, I created the Saiyan King of Universe 6, Copy-Gryll, and I think a few other pages.  Glad to have you back bro.  TNTDiscoCisco (talk) 13:49, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah. It's kinda good to be back. Back on the grind. Meshack (talk) 13:53, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

The rest of my edit summary

at Xenoverse's page.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  19:46,9/19/2016 

For one you are removing the display title thing, second off I am trying to keep it consistent with Xenoverse's page and if I am correct all the other articles on here.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  19:49,9/19/2016 

I'm removing it because it shouldn't be there. I was planning to remove the italics from the pages I added it on but you're making that hard for me. Meshack (talk) 19:50, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

Then you would have to remove Display Title from ever other article that it is on.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  19:58,9/19/2016 

You're acting like I'm not going to be editing a lot Meshack (talk) 20:01, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

Also I think I seen somewhere that Display Title is supposed to be used and I am sorry if that is how it is coming off. I am glad you are back and I hope you don't stop editing here (which means I hope you don't get in trouble). I am just trying to keep stuff consistent.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  20:04,9/19/2016 


You seem to be making some pretty big changes without any discussion. That's not a good idea.--Neffyarious (talk) 04:04, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

I didn't do any big changes... Meshack (talk) 06:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

  • Completely altering the setup of the "Battles" section, renaming pages without a reason and putting DBZBOG and DBZRF outside of the Super section are all major.--Neffyarious (talk) 13:51, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

Well, Battles was one of the things I changed months ago, if you didn't know. So I think it should be the way it was. If you were referring to the transformations then sorry and I'll be sure to discuss that. I renamed Future Trunks to "Future" Trunks because that's the official name for the arc as presented by Toei. You guys didn't even consider adding the quotes. Often when future Trunks is mentioned in a title, quotes are used around mirai which means future. I changed Demon Realm King and Demon Realm Supreme Kai back because I shouldn't have done it in the first place so I was reverting it. At the time I did it, I was mad that I couldn't use the original names for characters and that goes along with anything related to the Shinjin. Battle of Gods and Resurrection F were already out of Super. I read that 10X said it was okay 14:00, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

Why I have undone your edit to both Xenoverse games

Because we have changed the whole what word in the section headings need to be capital and also we don't use site navigation as a section. Also because I don't agree with your edit. Now I did remove the Display title because of Dokkan Battle.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  23:38,9/20/2016 

Don't ever order me to do something again.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  23:51,9/20/2016 

Deletion Template

As stated on the deletion template you're using, do not blank articles you mark. Thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:54, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

If you actually look, they were already blank. I was going to tell you before yo left the chat but those deletes are useless redirects Meshack (talk) 02:58, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

They were not already blank, they were redirects. You deleted the redirect function making the articles blank.

Also, redirects are not statements of facts, they are useful helper pages to benefit the readers. Is someone with a big Majin M on their forehead a Majin? Maybe, maybe not. Is a casual reader likely to search for Majin Broly after seeing a screenshot online? Absolutely. This is the usefulness of redirects. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:04, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

The thing is, they are not Majin so there's no point to have the redirects. Meshack (talk) 03:05, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

No, that is wrong. Reread my statement. If readers might guess they are Majins even incorrectly, the redirect is worth having. Redirects are here to be helpful, especially in the cases of common misconceptions. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:21, September 21, 2016 (UTC)
ok dude Meshack (talk) 03:22, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

Second warning: do not blank articles. You do not decide what gets deleted. You mark for deletion and an admin reviews it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:49, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

At first I didn't know what you meant because the article was alreadu blank but now I know. Sorry. Staff Sergeant added it did he? Meshack (talk) 01:52, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

YO. if you want to remove the specualtion about shu being revived by porunga. go right ahead. mos says no spec allowed anyway.  but DO NOT remove actual evidence of something that has been seen such as ox king laughing. and i highly suggest you rewatch dbz as i think you're knowledge of the filler episodes may have gotten rusty. also slow down on your editing. 0551E80Y (talk) 01:56, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

Again, you don't tell me how to edit. Also, Ox-King laughing has nothing to do with Shu. It says that Chi-Cho told Gyumao that she kicked him out. She wasn't talking to him but about him. It shouldn't be there. Meshack (talk) 01:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

"While Mr. Shu does not appear again after this, Ox-King is later told the story about how his daughter threw him out of the house, much to his amusemenT' [i should have nevered removed that dragon template box on that article.]  who is gyumao? i'll give you the transcript of ox king's speech if you want  

'chichi darling you threw him right out the window 'laughs uncontrollably' poor guy should have known. like husband like wife. oops sorry, and then you chased him off the property;

i have the episode right here on my computer. 0551E80Y (talk) 02:07, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

Hi. It's nice to have you back, and hopefully you'll use the talk page more than the undo button from now on. I don't see a reason to tag the redirects as its useful information to those who only known sagas, character, or forms by that specific. For example; if someone only know the AB Group dub, and nothing else than they'd search for Big Green instead of Piccolo. Also you should really discuss in the article talk page before you move something otherwise it'll confuse the readers. And lastly don't blank the article when tagging, i know 10X already told you this, but redirects still count as article content. Happy editing--Made up Character Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Page I ignore Things I do petition for db fusions outside of japan-euro-amerca 04:02, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

you was wrong from the beginning in the first place, when you chnaged it to great saiyaman no. 2.  back to the same tricks again already Nikon23 01:15, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Your grammar is wrong but I wasn't wrong brcause I had sources and you made a fake name Meshack (talk) 01:18, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

it wasn't a fake name, that name was used in Dokkan Battle. and you have no right to try and talk about someone's grammar when you can't spell "Because". Nikon23 01:22, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Edit war

Your edit is disputed, and Nikon is requesting a source. Didn't I tell you not to edit war any more? Your being very reckless here. Stop, and use the talk page, and provide the requested source.--Neffyarious (talk) 03:33, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Neff, there is already a source there. He didn't bother to look and just UNDID MY EDIT. Are you not seeing this?!!!! that user is exactly why i was block previously and i'm not going to let him get away with this. Meshack (talk) 03:37, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

When you edit is dispute, the page is left how it was before you edit, and you discuss it on the talk page, and use a source to back up your claim.--Made up Character Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Page I ignore Things I do petition for db fusions outside of japan-euro-amerca 04:06, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Why are you even mentioning that to me? I already know Meshack (talk) 04:14, September 23, 2016 (UTC)


don't like threats , don't make me report you again. just revert the edits and keep it moving , sir Nikon23 04:22, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

"Warning" is a threat (see how hypocritical you are?) and please do not contact me ever again Meshack (talk) 04:26, September 23, 2016 (UTC)


I removed the ones that were tagged as Candidates for deletion, but there are still a shit lot of them [1]. It takes a long ass time to type all the thingies in AWB, so I'll do at least the ones in the Ultimate Mission page later, and if I miss any, please tell me. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 19:19, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

alright Meshack (talk) 00:46, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

"XenoVerse 2"

Source on the capital V in Xenoverse? Looking around websites like Gamestop, Amazon, Steam, and Microsoft, they all seem to either spell it "Xenoverse 2" or "XENOVERSE 2". -- Final ChidoriTalk 17:25, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Why do you think the abbreviation is Dragon Ball XV? Just like in PlayStation how the abbreviation is PS not P. I dunno but I mainly wanted to remove the colon Meshack (talk) 17:29, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Well at first it was "XV" partially because it was the 15th dimps DB game released on console or something like that, now they're keeping it as XV for consistency. Some people use "MS" as the abbreviation for Microsoft, even though it's not "MicroSoft". I'm fine with removing the colon, since that doesn't seem to be showing up on any sites. Are you fine with changing it back to Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2? -- Final ChidoriTalk 17:36, September 24, 2016 (UTC)
Sure and change Xenoverse Meshack (talk) 17:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Plz keep a watch on the Recent changes and the move log because of a certain guy who keeps redirecting the episodes page names so there are a lot of double redirects. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 19:29, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

yeah I know Meshack (talk) 19:34, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

Next time give him a warning or something. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 19:50, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

Why r u moving BoG and RF away from the movie section? Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 20:06, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

Manual of style. According to 10X, you style the page according to the manual of style Meshack (talk) 20:08, September 25, 2016 (UTC)


We unblocked you because you said you learned to follow the rules now, but you lied. As soon as you faced a few people who all disagreed with you and said you were wrong, you started making personal attacks against them including myself. You have not learned to respect others or consider opinions other than your own. Even facing many people who all say your idea is not the best, you would rather make insults than have an open mind. You also recently lied about how often I edit to try and make me look bad and lied about site stats to try and make a point. You are blocked again. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:35, September 26, 2016 (UTC)

What rules did he break now, if I may ask. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 02:02, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Personal attacks. He lied and said I only come on once a week to try and convince others we need new admins. Then, while we were discussing whether Japanese anime sub names or English anime names were best for article names for several days, he said I must not be aware that there is a Japanese anime which is why I'm wrong and my ignorance is holding back the Wiki. On another talk page he called an edit I made stupid because I referred to the multiple universes in Super and he said there are no alternate universes and I must have meant timelines. He also lied about how popular the site is to try and get us to be more like another Wiki (another user pulled up the real stats and we were more popular, with more users and edits). He has been blocked many times by multiple admins for this sort of thing and we gave him a chance to come back because he said he would respect others and the site rules. He failed to carry out his promise. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:17, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
He does want to help the wiki though, there are reasons why the wiki is laughed at in bigger circles, and he was trying to fix them, while I just gave up trying. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 02:24, September 26, 2016 (UTC)

I recently got a complaint that he was putting the Super content from movies directly before the mostly identical Super content from anime and manga in article bios. This was discussed and decided against previously. Whether or not he wants to make the Wiki better, he makes it worse by attacking users and ignoring consensus and other policies. He is unwillingly to work collaboratively and thus not a good editor to have on this Wiki. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:39, September 26, 2016 (UTC)

Double-checked, and he was part of the discussion that ended in a consensus on the MoS talk page saying he should not be making BoG and RF sections before Super anime/manga in articles. This is not the first time he has ignored a consensus and done the opposite hoping no one would remember or notice. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:48, September 26, 2016 (UTC)

R.I.P ~ Meshack


We just blocked a sockpuppet of yours. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:02, November 17, 2016 (UTC)


I've unblocked you, please don't make the same mistakes as last time. It is your local hero, Bullza! Have any questions? Talk here! 20:52, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I won’t Meshack (talk) 18:41, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Guide Angels

Yes, though I couldn't find a raw scan from the manga itself in Japanese, I did my research and found numerous mentions to said term in multiple summaries and analyses from people in Japan in regards to that chapter, so it's definitely legit.

Even so, can you send me a scan? Just to make sure. ~ Yon ~Great King Cold SDBH World Mission artworkVisit my talk page! 18:25, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

I agree with your proposal, but it still needs to be discussed here in order to reach a consensus. ~ Yon ~Great King Cold SDBH World Mission artworkVisit my talk page! 00:25, May 1, 2020 (UTC)

Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted.