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Hi, Are you new here? Dekoshu 17:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Go to my talk page. Dekoshu 18:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Will you help me with the articles? Dekoshu 21:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Go to the talk page, and click the link. Dekoshu 22:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

HI from (thegavin 1998 )


Thanks very much for your contribution. It has been uploaded. -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 03:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Big Bang Kamehameha 100x

I like to have a word with you, Mr.Vixen Windstorm. It's nothing negative about you. Dekoshu 00:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

You can post at my talk page at anytime. Dekoshu 00:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the directory, Mr.Storm. Dekoshu 00:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, want to get the images for several articles? Dekoshu 01:59, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Even though "highest-powered" is suitable in the article, it would be confusing. Also, other users are editing it too, not just you. Dekoshu 02:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
I already know highest is a actual word, but not "highest-powered". Dekoshu 02:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
!!!!! Dekoshu 23:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay. What was that? Dekoshu 23:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there anything slowing you down? I'm really sorry if I'm actually slowing you down from your editing (not being sarcastic). Dekoshu 00:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
You know, you really should give other users a chance to edit on articles, too. Dekoshu 00:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again

I just wanted to let you know I've really appreciated your edits over the past couple weeks. I can see that you're not only interested in adding new content, but also improving the content we already have. Thanks, and I hope you'll continue to help out! -- {{Proxy-Connection: keep-alive Cache-Control: max-age=0

er:Nonoitall/sig}} 23:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

A stubborn user

I was on a website, and edited something. But when I go back what I edited, a user named Semperblotto is cutting me out of editing. Dekoshu 21:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not joking. This user is really stubborn. Dekoshu 21:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
absolute so, it's shame way too many editors on wikia are totally out of line, semperblotto is disgustin ahole!

Team Toyble

if you could leave the team toyble article alone i worked really hard and looked up all the information to my statments, i would appreciate it. (Goten.GT1 03:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC))

if you want we can talk about it on the talk page ? (Goten.GT1 03:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC))
lol hey storm i read it look i put it back i liked it lol. (Goten.GT1 03:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC))
hey you did Great can we make it a little longer though like add more information, PS how do you feel about Team Toyble and their Success With Dragonball AF. (Goten.GT1 04:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC))
and you wanna make another article called Dragonball AF Toyble, explaining the manga story, Plot, Chracters, Transformations. (Goten.GT1 04:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC))
i see, though Dragonball AF is not apart of The Dragonball Franchise it is authorized and has under gone agreements to get were it is now, unlike the internet articles and talk pages, i dont consider it fandom i consider it a manga of Dragonball thats not conncected to the franchise, i want to create a sepearate article about it the manga. (Goten.GT1 04:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC))
i know, Team Toyble's Dragonball AF is not connected to the Dragonball Franchise but is a Manga all its own, i will talk to nontail, i should bring up the fact that Akira Toyrima made negotiation for the Manga to be Created. (Goten.GT1 05:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC))

Good afternoon, Storm

It's me, Dekoshu. How are ya doing there, sir? Remember the word "highest-powered"? I decided to put it in Wiktionary.org. Do you know the definitons of "superpowered"? Dekoshu 19:17, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

no i cant due to most of toybles negotiation and websites are in japense due to them being a japanese publishing company only. and im not good looking up sites with a different language. (Goten.GT1 04:50, 23 November 2008 (UTC))

A Dōjinshi

No evidence can be provided that Toriyama allowed Toyble to produce Dragon Ball AF material becuase Toyble is a group, not a company, that produce Dōjinshi. Dōjinshi are made by artists or writers who prefer to publish their own materials. Avid fans of dōjinshi attend regular dōjinshi conventions, the largest of which is called Comiket (short for "Comic Market") held in the summer and winter in Tokyo's Big Sight. Here, over 20 acres (81,000 m2) of dōjinshi are bought, sold, and traded by attendees. Dōjinshi creators who based their materials on other creators' works normally publish in small numbers to maintain a low profile from litigation. -- bulletproof 04:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Awesome, however it seems Goten.GT1 brought the whole "Toriyama authorized" argument much like he's brought up multiple other arguments he's never been able to provide references or citations to back up. Is there anyway User:Nonoitall can immediately be contacted either by MSN/e-mail or some other form to settle this issue?-- bulletproof
but your just siding what you think, well i bring up effects that lead to a must have fact. (Goten.GT1 05:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC))
I understood about 37% of what you attempted to write. -- bulletproof 05:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
If this is the case, the Team Toyble is subject to deletion. -- bulletproof 05:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
You have mine and Nonoitall's full support.-- bulletproof 05:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Really? Is that the impression that I give? 0.o? I'm embarrassed XD!


In order to start cleanup on the wiki, I've started the Forum:Wiki cleanup, image policy topic. Please contribute to the discussion so that you opinion gets heard when drafting the image policy. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 25, 2008 @ 05:42 (UTC)


Dekoshu talk contrib 18:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC) I saw the image you were uploading. It was scary, but with higher quality. It needs to be smaller, though.

Re: Hey

Oh, haha. Don't worry, I don't think you're a jackass. I figured it was probably because of your inability to move the page, but I like to leave explanations for everything I do, hence my explaining proper move technique in my edit summaries. I'd have written you a message or something if I really thought you needed to be told how to move pages. ;-) -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 09:52, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

That's really great. So many articles on here are in desperate need of rewriting and sprucing up. /me winces at most of the episode summary articles. I've been pretty worn out lately, so I've just been keeping an eye on recent edits and fixing little things that get broken along the way. One of these days I'll probably overhaul another article or two that are in need of TLC though. Let me know if you need help with anything in particular. -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 08:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

This user, Semperblotto again

Dekoshu talk contrib 18:07, 29 November 2008 (UTC) I was using a computer, create an account, edited some words, and boom!; he blocked me. Come on, he wasn't being fair to me or respecting me. Why can't he be at least considerate to other users like me? He is tyrannical and close-minded. He is so inconsiderate and egocentric.

Dekoshu talk contrib 18:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
If I use my main account, Dekoshu, he won't block me for it, right? What can I do to avoid being blocked, then? Is he fair or being unfair? Is he doing what is right or is he doing wrong? And do you hear me saying something about Semperblotto? Does Semperblotto respect many users? Yes or no? Does he respect me too? Maybe I should know that I find many people greater than Semperblotto, and find better things to do other than expressing what happened in Wiktionary. Maybe you should add definitions for the words?
Dekoshu talk contrib 20:28, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I should know that I'm not alone, and there's honestly better people to talk to than Semperblotto. I'm really being sincere, honest, and serious about this.

Android 2

I'm sorry, but their really isn't any evidence to say that the pirate robot is #2. I used to think he was an early android, but an android is supposed to look like a human.....Kuriza 09:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Super Saiyan 4 Goku

Dekoshu talk contrib 19:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC) Go to the discussion page, please. I replied something.

Try to be considerate to not try editing, Vixen

Dekoshu talk contrib 17:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Look, the world doesn't revolve around you at all. And try not to be sounding all self-important and perfect, yet you're not. Do I have to talk to about this every time? Because I honestly don't want to deal with a bunch of self-important, high-handed, overly harsh snobs who think they can do whatever they want to other users and their hard work and have the selfish feeling of blocking any other user immediately who they deem unworthy. Do you want to be that kind of bad person, honestly?

Also, even if I was bound to the policies of Wikis, Mother Nature doesn't care about it, so it won't be affected by your petty rules, and that's a good thing for it. I know you're selflessly improving the articles for the greater good, but do you have to remind me every single time. Next time you reply to me, try to consider me as a human, not a emotionless robot who doesn't care about anybody. Also, natural disasters destroy policies. To be honest with you, you can be a little stubborn, callous, and harsh. I will ignore your reply if it doesn't consider what I am talking to you about. Change is hard, life can be harsh and unfair, and policies and rules aren't absolute. If this doesn't get through your thick head, then I don't know what does. You don't really understand, don't you? I know it's rule number 1, and if you don't have anything to make me happy and anyone else, then take out your message with me, because I honestly don't have the interest to read it right now. If you have nothing nice to say, they don't reply it to me, don't say anything at all!
Dekoshu talk contrib 17:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
You don't know me either. I can calm down now. Also, I wish you stop being so...I don't know, close-minded. I've seen many people died of sickness, war, natural disasters, and lack of safety. I guess Wikis don't have that true #1 rule: Safety comes first. You also need to calm down as well, so no one is left unmentioned and excluded. Also, I am not uncivil and I know the edit summary was uncivil, and I'm sorry about it. If you're gonna ignore the lost lives of others who are of significant importance, compared to impersonal claims, then you're apathetic.


Really sorry if I was rude--Sk 17:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

At the 100X Kamehameha a minor edit Again really sorry didnt mean to be uncivil-Sk 17:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I am really confused haha forget what I even said Thanks-Sk Nator

Good Evening, Storm

Dekoshu talk contrib 21:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Merry Christmas. Even though I had unpleasant times, I also had more pleasant times than the negative. These things happen, Vixen. If you don't want to speak to me ever again because of my behavior, then I won't speak to you either. Even you have problems.

C&P moves

Vixen Windstorm, please do not make Copy & Paste moves. They break the edit history and thus violate the GFDL by obsfucating the list of contributions to the page. If there is a title that you are unable to move to, please ask me or Nonoitall to move the page for you as we are able to move pages without breaking edit history. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 4, 2008 @ 04:04 (UTC)

December 2008

I reverted your edit and the pic i uploaded on King Piccolo's page you removed is back on for the time being. Do you have actual cause for removing it? SuperTron500 08:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, i agree now that i see what you mean. SuperTron500 22:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for putting the categories--Sk 08:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Just asking Do the episodes need to be categorized to DBZ/GT there is already a subcategory for all of them--Sk 08:30, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Ok,Thanks for the reply--Sk 08:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Ugh... non-atomic categories

I know you're doing a fair bit of categorization work (Wikipedia style), just thought I'd note to you that ideally sometime in the future I do intend to delete all of those kind of categories.

What I mean is categories like Category:2007 video games. All these categories are Wikipedia style non-atomic categories. They are real ugly ways to organize things, WP uses them because with their need for scalability they cannot install anything to improve organization yet, however we have SMW available for use.

Basically the difference is between an Atomic and non-atomic category. An atomic category is one that describes something at a base level. Categories like "Characters", "Episodes", and "Video games" are Atomic. Non-atomic categories are basically categories that could actually be described as intersections between other categories or data. "2007 Video games" is basically an intersection of "Video games" and "things made in 2007". WP creates those categories because they have no other option for expressing them.

However, on the Nartuopedia, rather than that we use SMW. For an example, "Jutsu that are Ninjutsu, and are classified as a Fire Release or Lighning Release Jutsu" on the narutopedia would be expressed not in a category, but by combining categories and semantic annotations.

Basically this query in Special:Ask: http://naruto.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=20&q=[[Category%3AJutsu]]%0A[[Jutsu+classification%3A%3ANinjutsu]]%0A[[Jutsu+type%3A%3AFire+Release||Lightning+Release]]&p=format%3Dbroadtable&po=%3FJutsu+type%0A

Sorry I can't get it to link for you properly though, just copy it into the address bar. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 17, 2008 @ 19:50 (UTC)

Well, that depends mostly on what you feel. You could keep going, but really, would you want to do that knowing that they're all basically up for deletion? ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 17, 2008 @ 21:00 (UTC)
If you wanted, we could ask for SMW to be enabled, and you could add annotations manually while waiting for infoboxes that do it automatically. A bit of annotating would probably look a bit like this. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 17, 2008 @ 21:03 (UTC)
Depends, it's easiest to get something enabled when it can be shown that the community wants it. Perhaps someone could start a quick forum topic about SMW and everyone can just chime in that they like the idea. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 18, 2008 @ 00:37 (UTC)
Depends, mostly on level of community consensus, and who I ask, and if they're active. If I can snag someone on IRC, I's near instantaneous from when I ask. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 18, 2008 @ 17:48 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Vixen

Dekoshu talk contrib 19:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC) I hope you get great presents and good luck with that.

A user named TD94 has been commiting vandalism on my talk page and the Super Galick Gun article

Dekoshu talk contrib 21:27, 19 December 2008 (UTC) He is going to vandalize some articles. Please remind the administrators about this. Thank you and sorry for being negative to you. I really am telling you the truth.

TD94 is just a plain old vandal/troll. Best thing to do is not feed them. Revert, notify an admin, and ignore. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 20, 2008 @ 23:15 (UTC)
Dekoshu talk contrib 02:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas, Dantman and Storm.

Merry Christmas, Vixen (2)

Dekoshu talk contrib 20:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC) I hope you get great presents and good luck. Don't be rude, though. I've been telling you Merry Christmas a lot, and I don't get anything from you in return. How stingy. I was wrong about you. So you're really not stingy. But are you trying to cut me out of editing? I thought you said cutting users out of editing isn't what you do at all? So you're more than just honest.

Do you have to remind me every single time? Are you some critic or something like that? I don't have to know everything. Also, if you don't want your edits to be edited mercilessly or be distributed, don't submit it. Also, I am not going to deal with someone who thinks everything and everyone outside and not having to do with wiki and just pieces of trash is just inconsiderate and insolently overbearing. Do NOT take this the wrong way, Storm, you are not like that. What Wikipedia cannot do? You know even admins have a limit. Do you have to let me what you have to submit on my talk page every time? Because, come on, you even said you don't use the computer all the time, and you can be helpful. Also, do you even care about users, including me, equally that is helping the wikis? It's obvious you're going to say either yes or no.

Re: Edit war

Hey, sorry I haven't time to get on until now. From the looks of things, the war has sort of blown over in the meantime though (at least it seems like both sides are working together to find an acceptable compromise). Let me know if things heat up again. (And/or Dantman — he seems to be on a bit more regularly than me.) Thanks -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 08:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


Hey thanks for getting rid of the vandalism(TD94's) from my userpage, I'll try to return the favor and sorry for for the late comment; just noticed it right now.--Sk 20:23, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Current conflict

It is unfortunate that the inmates apparently have to run the asylum, as there never seems to be any administrators present or reachable to supervise this Wikia during its most active hours. I believe the addition of another Sysop is vital and should be considered. As for your current situation, I want you to know that you have my full backing.-- bulletproof 09:30, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Broly article

I would like to congratulate you on your rewrites to the Broly article. Nice work! It’s a very good read. -- bulletproof 05:39, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Admins

Actually I've talked with Dantman about adding another administrator. Being pretty new to administration and even wikis in general, I would appreciate having another admin around, but he brought out that this is a relatively small wiki, and that two admins is probably adequate, which I can understand. That's not to say the case is closed though. I agree that you've thoroughly demonstrated your goodwill toward the wiki, and I definitely appreciate all the contributions you've been making. You might talk with Dantman about it if you haven't already. He's got more experience under his belt than I do, and might have more insight to share. -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 11:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm actually active most of the day. My work involves programming at a computer so I actually have wiki open and ready even then. I just don't pay as much attention to the Dragon Ball wiki. The wiki here has a better group of people catching spam and bad information coming to the wiki, at least better than what I can catch. So normally the only thing I open up are talkpages to see if there are any important discussions or disputes going on. But a message on my talkpage normally won't take to long to get to me.
I've actually ignored some of the Candidates for Deletion on purpose. A large portion of that category are old deletion tags, and so it's not as clear what pages should actually be deleted as the current community hasn't actually looked over them and agreed that they should be. I've also been waiting on a clear resolution to the image policy discussion before deleting any bad images. And as for the redirects, Wikia has an extension which pisses me off enabled here. "HardRedirectsWithJSText", it's supposed to help with SEO, however they way it is implemented is insanely stupid. It basically turns classic wiki redirects into actual HTTP redirects and completely removes the normal "Redirected from" link. To replace this they save a cookie (one of the absolute stupidest methods of maintaining that kind of data across pages) to find what page you were redirected from and inject it with JS (meaning it's also impossible to easily get back to the actual redirect page if you have JS disabled). This of course breaks like hell when you try to open multiple redirects from a category at once because it screws up just about every last one of those redirected from lines contains false information. I had them disable it on the Narutopedia but I haven't gotten around to re-prodding again after a staff member rejected my request to have the extension disabled here. To be honest the extension is ridiculous, I can understand wanting to fix SEO, but not coming up with a proper way to let people do maintenance and rejecting requests for it to be disabled blaming it on the community for not tagging redirects in a way that stops them from redirecting, is completely irresponsible. I already made the suggestion that they should just disable hard redirects for logged in users (the issue is web-crawlers like Google's search bots that they are trying to improve SEO for. So since they always are anonymous disabling hard redirects for logged in users will improve SEO still, and still make it possible to do maintenance and also allow people without JS to see redirected from links if they login).
Since Nonoitall is ok and you don't seem to get into any disputes with other users, it should be fine to give you sysop. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jan 1, 2009 @ 09:40 (UTC)

About the edit...

"If I remember correct, Chiaotzu's "wife" is revealed to be a doll Tien hands to him after they defeat Master Shen in Mystical Adventure."

Oh ok, so the whole thing about the wife was just a lie? If so, then fair enough. I just remembered that almost everybody reffered to her as being his "wife"... KneeKicker 20:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh I see, fair play then. Guess that pretty much explains it all lol. Thanks for the information and the pic. KneeKicker 11:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey can I upload Image:Akira21.jpg to wikipedia, I am a little concerned that it may not be free, and I dont know much about Image policy and stuff. Anyway I know this has not much to do with DB wiki, but it would be a help--Sk Nator 10:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I upload it on the GNU Free Documentation License as I found it on DB wiki and both sites use GFDL--Sk Nator 10:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I'll upload that anyway and see what happens,lol ThanksSk Nator 10:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009

I hope you weren't complaining about me when you stated too many images are getting uploaded. We're pretty much supposed to assume good faith, so yeah..

Anyways, i'll move the removed pic to the saga page, and if you ever feel like it you can replace the pic of them seperating i uploaded with a better resolution (the one i uploaded was old). SuperTron500 06:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Movie Actors

Hi there, Vixen Windstorm, and congratulations on your new position! I noticed that you moved all of the actor's pages to one large page. Doing so seriously reduces DragonBall.wikia's Google ranking. As you can see in this forum, Nonoitall said that it "sounds like a reasonable compromise about the actors.". As noted on the James Marsters talk page, Sk Nator said that "This is not that related to Dragon series.It would be better if it were to be in Wikipedia." This is not true; whereas one page with all the actors compiled on it would bring little traffic from Google and other search engines, having each actor have an article would bring many more viewers, which, in turn, brings new members. Please leave me any thoughts you may have on the subject :)--Eulalia Talk 05:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

This is turning into a nightmare

I am really getting tired of users when they should just say nothing or say something that isn't even slightly negative. If what you're doing isn't helping you, then try another day or another time or never. I can be civil from my own free will. I also am finding you keep doing something that isn't right. If you fed up with me, I can be fed up with you, too. I am not completely uncivil. I have been through a lot of hardships that you don't even fathom and understand. If you are not going to listen to 100% of what I am going to to send you or say to you, then I don't have to listen to what you are going to say either. If incivility isn't what keeps the users' privileges intact, it could also happen to you without even expecting it. Nobody else but you in this site, thinks about me being incivil. If you're doing this exclusively to me, then it isn't fair. Every human being deserves much better than this, EVERY HUMAN BEING. If you're this excessively stubborn, then I can stand you no longer. Dekoshu talk contrib 02:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Enough, both of you

Enough both of you. Dekoshu, reverting at every chance Storm has to respond is only aggravating the situation. Quit being so antagonistic and respond in formal manner below Storm’s comments. And Storm I don’t know how this started but this discussion should take place in a mediated environment. There is no need to let escalate this any further. I suggest this be discussed in our Wiki forum. -- bulletproof 03:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

A forum page has been created. Please direct this discussion here → Forum:Request for Mediation: Dekoshu and Vixen Windstorm -- bulletproof 03:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I understand how frustrating it can be, believe me. Would you be willing to try to sort this out? -- bulletproof 03:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Still can't you guys sort this out? Your Leader Mr. Kazi----- Talk
Dekoshu talk contrib 04:47, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
This is pathetic and useless. As much I want to hear positive sentences, I am sick of being having to be nothing but a useless user on this site. I am dealing with excessively frustrating situations like with Storm.

Episodes: Uncut Version

Storm, I'm confused. Which is the 'first' episode? The New Threat or Reunions? --Neos 09:01, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Re. Sidebar

Well this is what i see but I think its something with my browser or computer, this has happened before--Sk 05:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

will dragonball af become real

will dragonball af become real

i think it should because dragonball gt didnt have many episode so i think everyone sould see goku and the rest of the gang turn super sayin 1-10 and bring other dark people back to fuse and they sould do a movie on goku v.s superman even if i think goku sould win

I am sorry that you feel that way, Vixen

I am sorry of what I said to you and was being uncivil. It's just I get stressed out, even in a calm demeanor. Frankly, just because you are doing your job now as a admin, doesn't mean you can be always right and never wrong, and please don't take everything for granted. Don't say that you're always right. From this day forward, I will focus on what really matters. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk Templates

I just had a doubt and an idea. Why doesn't this wiki use talk templates? They're a lot of fun and make the discussion pages more organized. I suggest you use them; of course it's not my place to choose. And an idea: why don't we do something like "Who is the best hero?" and then place different characters and give reasons and quotes as to why they are the best hero (or whatever the category). Example: Gohan. In the page, we place a picture of him, a quote and something like this: 1. He defeated the first villain Goku didn't. This could be a forum and there could be diverse characters. I hope you take this into consideration and thanks for the welcome!! SSJ4Ichigo 04:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying. It's just that I saw in the final fantasy wikia the talk templates I was telling you about and thought they were neat and cool. And the forums too. In fact, if you can check it out, here's the link:
And while you're at it, check some user's talk page to see the templates. Thanks and no prob on the touch-up of Yo! Son Goku and his friends return!!, that's what I'm here for!! SSJ4Ichigo 18:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Nameless Namek

I like the page you made for the Nameless Namek. I was hoping someone would do it but wasn't sure if it'd happen. Since Kami and King Piccolo were virtually identical wouldn't the original being also be like 7 or 8 feet tall? Just wondering because of the size of King Piccolo. SuperTron500 13:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thats weird, i thought you said the height thing was worth a mention. Also, maybe Namekians height decreases as they age, i don't know but obviously they were both the same size when they were shown to have seperated into two. SuperTron500 22:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh? Well, i did it because i thought you were saying it was a good idea and i thought it'd save time. No big deal for me really since those who've seen the earlier stuff in the anime will probably figure out he would have been taller once. SuperTron500 14:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Thats a shame that it hasn't, but thats out of my hands. Also, i don't know what you meant when you mentioned Lord Slug and Guru as far as your idea Nameks actually grow larger as they grow older.
Kami and King Piccolo were virtually identical and i honestly can't see anything about Kami and Piccolo Jr. being the same height in the Androids Saga as anything more than an animation update maybe (infact, i noticed Kami appeared to be shorter later on when he appeared compared to the way he looked when Goku first came to the lookout). It'll probably never be explained unless it comes straight from the horse's mouth, though i noticed when King Piccolo's youth was first restored he got bigger, so maybe thats why the whole age/size increase theory doesn't work for me
So really at this point this is just us exchanging opinions, i respect yours in the discussion and hopefully you respect mine. --SuperTron500 02:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

In Development

Hey there!! Just letting you know that I already started developing "Kame House". It's in the forum section of the wiki. I just hope it can be maintained and updated by the wiki's own members. Try to look into it and thanks!! SSJ4Ichigo 20:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the trouble, but I just have a request: I was hoping I could "promote" the new forum on the main page in the content section. I was going to do it myself, but I thought it would be inapropiate to do it without your permission. Please consider this. SSJ4Ichigo 00:26, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Moving main page

I was reading this and I thought if it was a good idea to move the main page--Sk 19:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks anywaySk 04:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Enjoy a great day, Storm

I am calm now. Dekoshu talk contrib 01:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I suggest we make small talks.

That's all I have to say. Sorry if I'm being patronizing, but do your proper procedure. I don't care. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

My bad, Vixen Windstorm

No really, my bad, sir. I am sorry for being negative again. It's just that I can't seem to trust myself anymore in the face of adminstrators. Might as well saying that this I am nothing, and of no importance at all to this site. I am such a failure, that I still have unpleasant difficulties. To make an explanation, I am not patronizing and neither are you. And, we all already know that nobody especially on the Internet, should be exploited. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Serious comment from me

I am sorry for all the trouble you had to go through. I am not a dominant user at all, and never will be a dominant user. Also, that doesn't mean that you're a dominant user, which I don't hear you say that you are. Even though I am not an adminstrator, I am contributing in a English Wiki. Even though I got some of my writing being reworked and/or removed by other users, which is true, doesn't mean I should be happy about it all the time. Somebody corrects it and life goes on. Frankly, I shouldn't be happy to you about this. I hope you realize that you are not a dominant user, either, and that you can be too rigid, even if the procedure is proper. Not everyone's opinions are welcome if they happen to be against the policies of the site. As far as I know, maybe you never wanted me in the first place and you have a grudge against me, which you don't have against me. I am still really sorry, though. Even though you're an administrator, doesn't mean you can be a bully to others, which isn't the type of person you are. Everybody can contribute, and if your work is edited mercilessly or redistributed, then why submit it? Not all administrators like you are intolerable. I hope you're not treating the other users, including myself, like total newbs and peons. Nobody likes that. They can do something else that doesn't involve this site, like being with their family, be at the park with friends, etc. . I know this isn't real world at all, but even though I really wanted to improve the articles, I wanted be of a lot of help. Maybe I should make my own Wiki. I should appreciate your rewrites on the articles, and I know most of the words. But even I can contribute like the others. Don't die, man. I'm not kidding and not to be negative, don't die man. I know that you already know this, but the real world is NOT exactly the same as here. In the real world, events must be taken seriously and considerately, and being an admin will not help you there. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

No, I am not trying to mock you. I typed it in all by myself. I am no dominant user, like you said (again, I typed it all by myself), and also, like before, doesn't mean that you're a dominant user. Please literally read every single word I typed in just for you. If this isn't enough, I don't know what will. I can be calm and sensitive, but I cannot be too rigid. I am but a user in the Internet. I cannot be sitting on my chair talking to you every time you responded on my talk page, or even at anytime. I am not here just for kicks. I am here for purposes. What I cannot do is what can do. There is an opposite, and no opposite. There is neutrality, and there is no neutrality. There is equal, and inequal. When you meant you are at the same cailber, were you refering to me? Because you are not at the same caliber with me. Dekoshu talk contrib 03:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi there!! Just saying thanks for contributing on the forum. I fell really good about it and will continue making topics and stuff. Now, I'll just have to make people know about it and start editing it. But thanks!!SSJ4Ichigo 03:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Wow. Thanks for watching over me. Since this is such a big deal go ahead over to pages like Master Roshi's, Orin's, Grepe's, Commander Cado's, and Colonel Silver's, theres still plenty of good will you can spread around in removing these terrible fan made pictures! SuperTron500 13:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Templarion Prime on the Freeza Page

Hey Vixen, I was just reading your bio..grats on the admin position. That's pretty cool.

Anyway, it looks like we're both dancing around edits to the Frieza page. I'll just say it now, I don't really agree with some of the King Cold personality bits you added to the personality section. To me, these ARE valid personality traits, but don't really fit in the opening, overarching description of Freeza's personality. If anything, I think that the "Original Conception" section just below the personality intro should be moved up, but other folks thought otherwise, so I let it go. That's why I considered having an "interaction with family" type section, and I don't think I'd be alone in that. I'm not too picky as far as these things go though, and since you're the admin. and the information you're presenting is valid, I'll go with whatever you decide.

About this cluttering stuff, I don't really follow the edits you made. I get not having the page cluttered with images, but I didn't really see the problem with having the images following the bio. Is there a "wiki aesthetics guide" out there, so to speak, from which I can get a better idea of what is typical or accepted? If it's just your opinion you're going on here, I understand, but if there is some template or format for wikis that deals with this image cluttering issue, I'd love to read about it.

Glad to have you on board...it's nice to have another regular editor on the Freeza page.

- Temp

Edit: Sorry, but after I posted this I noticed some of the incidents that you have had with folks..."objecting", shall we say politely, to your edits. I just wanted to clarify that while I respect those folks' edits, I am in no way interested in sullying your rep. as an admin. My whole reason for working on this site actually started with the pretty low quality state of the Freeza page prior to November 2nd, 2008. I totally agree with you that quality should be the key factor. I guess that is largely the reason I wanted to clarify the points I made above, so that the best quality can be obtained from multiple refinements. Anyway, I'm hoping I didn't come off negatively, but I just wanted to clarify that in case I did come off that way. Thanks.
Thanks for getting back to me. I also noticed, after you pointed out the image problem, that the rest of the page is suffering from these problems. As you're moving alphebeticall through the pages, I might try to tackle this in the style you mentioned to get it right. I think I can at least make some improvements on what is there now. Templarion Prime 13:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Image Captions

SSJ2AJB What does it mean to, "hover the cursor over the image"? Is that how you can get the image caption? If so, can you tell me how?

On my mouse, when I'm trying to get the tooltip to appear on the image, do I have to point with the left click or the right click?
So when I left click, the image itself appears, and when I right click, there's an options menu of that image? If that's the case, do I have to look for something that says "Tooltip" on the options menu?
I'm still confused on the tooltip image caption thing. Is it okay if we just include the captions back on the infobox technqiue template? That should restore the captions back on the images in the technique infoboxes. It helps describe what the image above is about.
Oh, now I get the tooltip thing. I went to the 10x Kamehameha article, put my mouse on the image and the tooltip appeared. I just got a little stumped on it at first, but now I know. Thanks for the help.


Would you happen to know which dubs/ points in the series its mentioned Katas belonged to the dragon clan? In the FUNimation dub of DB Tambourine laments something to the effect of "How could we the warrior tribe be beaten by you?" and since Tambourine's actually a Namek is this based on anything stated officially? I just figured since he's Katas' grandson this was meant to say Katas people were called the warrior tribe. SuperTron500 09:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


How do you tweak images?--LocC 09 01:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

oh ok can anybody do it or just you? --LocC 09 01:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
ok but say if you find a blurry image on the website. is there a way to make it clearer?--LocC 09 01:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
oh allright thanks man. --LocC 09 01:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


What's the matter with it? Glock 18 15:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I will agree with you about quality (screen from youtube). So I'll re-up it in better quality, aight? Glock 18 17:38, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Aight, I understand. I'm fucking out of this shit. Glock 18 18:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Mutant Namekians

Where exactly would King Piccolo's mutated son's fit in Namek caste types? I'd say due to their low power levels they'd fall under support types since thats all they really were portrayed as. SuperTron500 17:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Frieza Trivia

I guess it was my fault for not getting my point clearly across. My point wasn't that they censored Frieza coughing up blood. My point was, they were more willing to show Goku spitting out blood than they were to show Frieza coughing up blood, when Goku's good and Frieza's pure evil (the protagonist and antagonist, actually). Ghostkaiba297 00:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes I am referring to the FUNimation dub. Ocean never did Episodes 72-90. Ocean did 1-53, then FUNimation did 54-167, in America FUNimation did 168-276 while in Canada Ocean did 168-276, but they still included the same graphics as FUNimation's edited versions did. The graphics permanently changed starting from Episode 54. Of course, FUNimation did all the uncut versions.


I'm kinda new to this websight, so I was wondering if Role-Playing is allowed, and If it is then I would like to role-play with you ^_^ --Baracuss 02:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Image Inserting Problem

SSJ2AJB Something's wrong with the editing. When ever I edit something, all I ever see is the Hide Editing Tips and the Enter Widescreen options, but I don't see the New! Add Images option. Can you tell me how that happended?

Planet Vegeta Image

I was wondering why you deleted Image:Planet Vegeta.png. I saw that you have uploaded another image- Image:Planet Vegeta.jpg. I suppose you didnt know about mine. As it seems you took mine to be a repeated image. I think i had uploaded fiirst and my image is larger, showing the two moons of Planet Vegeta and also having the name diplayed under it (in japanese as seen in the TV Special Bardock: The Father of Goku). I think it would be better for my image to be there than your because I had uploaded first & you image is almost it same (not a better version).Deshkap 2006 12:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Multiple Topics

Planet Vegeta

Sorry for considering the deletion wrong. Thanks for the parameters that only the planet should be focused. I had uploaded 2 more planet images. I will change them too.


I did not know about the List of inconsistencies in Dragon Ball page. So it was my mistake. I may advice to redirect Glitches to the list. Thinking of it I havent seen any redirects in this wikia (in Wikipedia, we can go to the redirecting page where there is no content but the redirect).


The episodes pages are not displayed properly. There is no link to the previous or next episode in a page. Is there any episode info box like the character info box? I have seen one like that in the episode page of another wikia (Avatar Wikia). Another point is that the recap should be retitled as synopsis/ summary/ plot. Give your opinion.

Talk Page- Same Topic

I started this as a new topic. Should I continue in the same headinhg from next time (I mean does continuing in the same heading gives the box alerting a new message).

Thank You

Deshkap 2006 13:02, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


Friend Vixen and hopeful fellow Spice fan, Spice is my favorite DBZ character and I'm putting great thought and time into making his page great. And everytime I do, some dude changes it. I'm responsible for about 80% of the Spice page, I love Spice, I put interesting info about him, constantly. He is a enigma and I want to be as informatative about him to DBZ fans and potential Spice fans. There was protest about Spice not being an any games, read the past DBZ BT forums and other DBZ game forums. There's hardly any merchandise of him, just the DVDs and card game. I got nothing against you, I praise you for this DBZ Wikia, but I'm just trying to do my part as a DBZ fan. I'm putting in info that is relevent, I'm not making things up here, I agree with the Black water mist thing, I didn't put that. I find it unfair that Trunks, Piccolo and etc, have millions of paragraphs about such small subtitles and Spice hardly any. Contact me on Harpiro@yahoo.com. Try and understand. I love how you fixed up that Spice pix, it's gorgous now.

Can u plz sign ur name so I can find it easier to talk to you and address u by name? Use four of the ~ things. Anyway, it's nice to meet someone who appreciates how cool yet enigmatic Spice really is. Some of my stuff has been changed by VixenWindstorm too, like Frieza's blood being censored but not Goku's, and King Kai swearing. All my hope goes to the contrary, but I can't shake the suspicion that I made an enemy on this site. I already have one on Wikipedia. His name's Bignole. Ghostkaiba297 22:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


I was just wondering because no one ever gets on Dragonball Fanon -_-' And I don't plan on creating any Fanon articles here on Dragonball Wiki. But I just wanted to know if it was ok to Role-Play like on a User's talk page only, because I was banned from Halopeidia for doing that... Thanks for the welcome ^_^--Baracuss 03:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I am already a member there, but nobody is ever on it. The last edit on there that wasn't mine was made over two days ago -_-'--Baracuss 03:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Angry Kamehameha Image

Trunks (Super Saiyan 2nd grade).jpg

SSJ2AJB Hey you know you've been uploading new versions of images like this image here? Well, which ever websites you're using, can you try to find and upload a new version of the Angry Kamehameha? I think that image was taken off of Youtube.

Alright, take your time. Thanks.

Angry Kamehameha Image

Hey, I just uploaded a better image of Goku using the Angry Kamehameha. If you can upload a clearer image of Goku using the Angry Kamehameha soon, that would be really great. Thanks!

Paragus Trivia

Whats so great about the similarities between character deaths? And is there any proof this was intentional? It's just... odd.. SuperTron500 04:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Do as you wish, but i'd like you to know i was merely asking. And i haven't seen Akira the movie (yet).

Can we stop being enemies?

I noticed u like to delete stuff I add to the site (particularly regarding Android 17), but don't think I didn't notice that after u deleted the part in Makyo Star about Salt mentioning his sister, you put it onto Salt's article. And the Paragus trivia, after u took all that time to delete my 17 trivia (point being, he suffers two unspecified deaths in DBZ, and both are by a main villain of the show). So can we stop being enemies? Please? One can't pretend that we are currently enemies, but both of us have added some useful information to this site. We have the potential to get along perfectly. Can't we stop hating each other? Ghostkaiba297 03:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Battle of the Saiyans

Hey how are you doing? You can go ahead and delete that article... I haven't been on here in so long (doubt you remember me?), forgot how to do some things. I was planning to make articles showing the information about the various battles throughout the series, kind of like how war battles are set up on other Wiki's. If you could give me a hand with it that would be great, but If you don't like the idea just let me know why... Thanks SSJGoku93 00:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Android 17's death and absence

I'm not going to re-add the trivia to his article, but I'd like to point something out. So what if 17 was judged as a villain by King Yemma? Cell most certainly was, and King Kai said "When Cell blew himself up he should've been sent to Snakeway with us! So that means Cell was not destroyed! He's alive!" That's how they knew he was still alive because he wasn't there.

And about Salt, I checked the history of his article and from the looks of things, you added the thing in there. Ghostkaiba297 05:15, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

It was Cell that King Kai expected to see, not 17. 17 was never even mentioned in the episode, I don't think. But yeah, when Cell DID die, we see King Yemma sending him to Hell. Ghostkaiba297 06:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
OK, this is ridiculous. Basically, if it's both written by me and about Android 17, it must be deleted. Why? If u like him that much, u should know that he is the reason my most favorite number is 17!!! If we have so much in common, can't we get along? PLEASE?!
I read ur previous response. The previous souls absorbed by Cell? Cell absorbed 17 in a different way than he did the others. We know he survived the absorption, cause 18 did, but with the humans, he jabs them with his tail and sucks them in a bit at a time, and they are killed by it. For 17 and 18, his tail opens up like a pob (that's how I describe it, a pob is a killer plant from the Jumanji film) and he sucks them in. So they were already dead by the time Cell selfdestructed.
Speculation? Have you never seen the episode Borrowed Powers? He sucks them in a bit at a time. If he does regurgitate humans that he absorbed that way, they would be in little pieces. 18 was in one piece because Cell opened his tail up and swallowed her whole. It's like his first way of absorbing is chewing them up. I mean, just look at Piccolo's arm.
I don't think you get it. Cell sucked in a bit of the guy's insides at a time. You've seen Borrowed Powers so you'll know what it was like. Why else would Cell need to open his tail up in order to absorb the androids? Why is it that an android was regurgitated instead of a human? Yes, I do think it strange that with him relatively human-sized it is questionable as to how two human-sized androids could fit inside him at once, but I don't know how much more clearer I could make it. Yes, I'm sure there must be more to the androids being absorbed, but what about the humans? It's just like how Edgar gets his insides sucked out in the movie Men in Black, if you've ever seen it. Can you expect that man to survive? Do you think that they just "re-form" inside him after he sucks them in? He swallowed 17 and 18 whole, that's why he was able to regurgitate 18 completely in once piece. But anyway, this talk page is becoming a little crowded with our talks about how Cell absorbs people... maybe you should start a forum, entitled "the Debate over Cell Absorbing Humans" or something. I would, but I don't know how... Ghostkaiba297 05:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
OK, I've created a perfect thread on the forum... so its ur turn to talk about ur opinions on how Cell absorbs peaple cause I already talked about mine. Check the forum index under the wiki discussion. If you don't know how to get there, ask and I'll tell you. Ghostkaiba297 16:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: GIFs

Hey, yeah, that's fine with me. As far as I'm concerned, the long period of silence means there are no significant objections, and I've already been doing some weak enforcement of the no-GIF policy (mainly to prevent the introduction of more GIFs into the articles). Thanks for taking on that bear of a task! -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 10:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Super android 13 trivia

the reason i put hatred is because if you look at the articale it says hatred that's why i put that in with it saying hatred okay?--InoNOTHING 09:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

About : "unnamed finisher"

Unlike other energy waves this attack is charged up over the head and fired as a large beam, If that isnt enough to constitute it as a technique I dont see how attacks such as "Big Bang" or others that are just simple blasts can be. If there is certain criteria that need to be met in order to keep the attack on the Android 18 page please tell me how they could be met. Thunderbender18 17:44, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


Will the MMORPG Dragon Ball Online tell us how the majin came to be and born? Will the Majins have the Special abilities same as Majin buu?


(Eva unit05 01:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC))


Thanks for that tip on signing. You've only been here a couple of months and your already an admin? Very impressive. Asakura Yoh 18:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Which articles need rewriteing?
And to the guy who mentioned Majins, Majin Buu was an artificially created life from [think Shadow The Hedgehog from Sonic The hedgehog], so thats how he was born. All of the other majins are powerful warriors with whom babadi has given extra powers, and caused them to be consumed by the evil within their heart, as well as being forced to obey him. The only exception to this was Vegeta, and Dabura, right before he was killed by Majin buu.
Asakura Yoh 22:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Image Tooltip Help

SSJ2AJB Yo, I need your help. Remember you told me about the image tooltips in the technique infoboxes' image captions? Well I've been putting them in the images a while ago. If you're not busy, can you come help me with them or address other users to do the same thing if they're not busy?


Why did you erase my contribuition to the Turbo Norimaki article?Why?He DID have an I.Q. that high!that made me sad,did you know that?Before erasing people's contribuitions you better think about their feelings!

My apologies

Hey,Vixen!sorry for that little famdom in Turbo's article,okay?I just forgot that the movie characters are non-canon and i simply remenbered about the marvel characters and talked about them!But now i understand the wikia's policies!No fooling around now!--Ultimate godzilla 23:02, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Dude,i already apologized!Now,just leave us alone and i'm going to be happy.


could u plz stop undoing everything im doing the things im doing rnt bad u just think they r Watshisname 01:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


everytime i add something to a page with ur little logo thing it messes it up and spreads it out can u tell me y it does that

but y does it do that when i dont tell it toWatshisname 03:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

thank u

thank u for getting rid of tose things for me its not like im trying to make them pop up


Uploading New Version



Hey I need your help. I wanted to upload a new picture version of the Super Masenko right beside me here. I have a Dazzle DVC 100 to capture the Super Masenko image on DBZ BT3, but I don't know how to save it and put it in my picture section on my computer. You told me before that you were taking screenshots of DBZ Movies and Episodes by yourself and not from any website, right? Well, can you please tell me how you do that and I'll try to find a similar way to upload the Super Masenko image?


heya! are cosplay photos not allowed even for one's user page...if an image isn't uploaded into the pages, a cosplay image can't be kept on a user's own user page? - PrinceZarbon 04:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

heya again. I replied to the link you gave me about the photos. In the fanart photo section you gave me a link to on my user talk page. Please respond to me there. Thanks again mate. - PrinceZarbon 20:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Stop Changing it

Stop Saiying that Cell wasnt an USSJ it wasnt Friezaz thing because frieza kept his speed ( I think)

Vegeta's and Nappa's first appearance

Hey Vixen. I tried to note Vegeta and Nappa actually first appeared in the anime in something of a teaser flashback in episode 2 but apparently somebody wasn't happy with it and removed it. Where would be a better place to note this? I can even upload the picture and show it to you incase you don't believe me, it clearly shows the wrongly colored Vegeta and Nappa by Raditz' side when he was explaining the nature of the saiyan race to Goku. SuperTron500 14:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The World's Strongest Team was the name of the episode, but i'm not even gonna waste my time screwing with it if one of you are just going to remove/revert it, because obviously someone felt it didn't belong. SuperTron500 14:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Excuse my absence

Hi!! Sorry for my absence, but I've had trouble with my internet at home and couldn't log in as much. But now I'm back and will continue to edit. Sorry and thanks!!! SSJ4Ichigo 19:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

New Quoting

SSJ2AJB Hey, something's wrong with the quoting. When I was going to Goku's page, I didn't see the yellow box with the quotes and episode/movie name inside. Instead, I saw big quotations marks around the episode/moive in which the character says their quotes. Oh, and about the quotes, they look really small and a little hard to see. Did somebody just change the Template:Quoting page?

Thanks for reverting the quotes. Those other ones were a little awkward because they looked small and a little hard to see. But now, they look big enough for someone to see. Anyway, thanks a lot, Vixen.


Vixen Windstorm, if AnimeBot syncs a template please poke me to add an exclude or add an exclude for the dragonball wiki yourself to the template page itself on the Animepedia. Simply reverting won't solve anything since the sync bot will just /fix/ it back next time it syncs. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Feb 25, 2009 @ 02:52 (UTC)

Nameless Namek

I uploaded the only pic i have of the Nameless Namek's first appearance and added it to his page, hopefully you won't break your neck to remove this one. I also have a few shots of when Kami and King Piccolo seperate in the same episode, which is different than the scene Guru sees when he probes Krillin's mind, but i'm not sure i'll upload them unless i can find a proper page to put them. SuperTron500 21:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I think the image looks pretty good on the page and fits in well. I think its cool how it has a blue tint to it while the one of him as a kid has more of a red one. Hope you keep it on there. SuperTron500 23:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Tell me what you think of the addition already! Haha. SuperTron500 12:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


Good to know. This one is also a nice pic but i haven't found a right place for it yet. I guess its supposed to be King Piccolo but his strange lack of a kanji confused me since without it the pic appeared to be showing the Nameless one.

Help request

Could you please give me a hand with Kami's page if you get time? I've tried several times to fix the annoying gap in his page and it just won't go away! SuperTron500 18:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind. Just after i wrote to you it dawned on me maybe his picture placement was the problem. SuperTron500 18:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello I'm new to this so please help.

Hi, I wanted to help you guys out in this wiki. Are you ok with me doing some articles on Budokai Tenkaichi 3 attacks and such? I see you have a lot of them red, which meanse no article. I'll be glad to help.

Merger/Deletion of Unnamed/Inaccurately Named Characters

Hi. I am responding in regards to the conversation in the discussion page for Slug's Soldiers. Should I go ahead and fuse/merge them all into one page and/or add deletion/merger tags to them all (whom we have confirmed are unnamed and/or inconsequential? - PrinceZarbon 02:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

OK then

I'm just wondering how did you find out that it really is called the Oozaru in the movie?


The source may have been inaccurate.I hope we can settle this out properly.Stardoctor 21:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

OK Thank you.

I have an idea.how about I delete the Movie Oozaru page and just leave a little part for it on the original Great Ape page?Stardoctor 21:33, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


On Youtube,a user has actually seen the movie confirmed it.So could you put my information back up? Stardoctor 16:59, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


What's it take to move up in the ranks around here?? -SuperTron500 00:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

My fault, SORRY!!!!

Thanks for helping me find Sandbox sorry if I disrupted anyone. That definitely was not the goal and I hope was not the outcome. Thanks again. P.S. as one may tell I am not good with anything online in general.

10x Kamehameha

SSJ2AJB Hey Storm, it's me again. This time I want tell you something about the image in the infobox in the 10x Kamehameha article. Well, as you can see in the image, Goku in his Super Saiyan 4 form is performing the 10x Kamehameha. The tooltip says that he is performing the 10x Kamehameha against Syn Shenron. However, I was watching DBGT Episode 56 where Goku was fighting against Nova Shenron and Eis Shenron. When Goku was using the 10x Kamehameha right before the encounter with Eis Shenron, the brief picture of Goku's face with the 10x Kamehameha looked identical to the one in the image of the 10x Kamehameha technique infobox, so it is certain that image tooltip should say that Goku was using the 10x Kamehameha against Nova Shenron instead of Syn Shenron. If you watch DBGT Episode 56, you'll see what I mean.

Also, we should also say that Goku also used the 10x Kamehameha to combat the evil Shadow Dragons while finding the Dragon Balls with Pan. I just thought you should know.

Goku's gi

Why does Goku and his friends gi's change colors???? Why?? Obviously you know since you removed that bit from the List of inconsistencies. I know you're not full of crap, so lets hear it. If i don't get a straight answer soon i'll add it again and keep adding it until you fully explain. Also, i'm going to remove the info about Vegeta's colors in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 soon because its no more important than it is regarding Nappa's colors. Thank you! SuperTron500 09:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

And for gods sakes can't you see Nappa's armor is yellow and DARK BLUE, not yellow and Black? Either you're blind or do you just randomly revert pages because its easier than getting in them and picking things out to fix (at this point i'm not sure which but hope its the latter). Either way it looked stupid, so once again i wasted my time and energy correcting it. SuperTron500 10:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I also decided to be fair and remove that crap about Lord Slug's base size. Who cares about it? It neither increases nor decreases in movie 4, period. And also with your logic as it was when you came up with the whole theory a Namek's size increasing with age i guess that means Nameless Namek was a midget since Kami and Piccolo were the same height in the Imperfect Cell Saga. Wow, i never imagined the nameless one was a midget, but i take everything you say so seriously i actually believe that ;). SuperTron500 10:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Um, alright then, but i honestly didn't see it. I was rethinking the importance of a couple things i took out but overall were they important? SuperTron500 00:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Note: The two Goku's outfits are almost completely different in color

Also, what exactly with Toei is attributed to that with the animation? I'll admit DBZ animation is slightly more crisp but DB and DBZ only aired a week apart. So pretty much what i am asking is; Was it a different animation team, a new studio, new epuipment, or something else? Thanks. Also, Kid Goku's outfit colors are never updated in any newer sources i've seen. In the picture i posted you can see his outfit is still reddish and has a black belt when those colors should match Buu Saga Goku also in the pic. So you see, that part about early Z bugs me.. SuperTron500 00:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I can believe it. Toei added strange animations updates when not exactly needed. They also do this in GT, i think.. Maybe the poster wasn't official Toei animation work, because Kid Goku's color's aren't updated at all
Also i've still been trying to resolve the whole size plothole with Nameks; Is it an important fact that King Piccolo and Kami only rip away as indentical beings in Guru's Gift? In Earth's Guardian Emerges the Nameless Namek expells the evil from within, which only creates a black figureless apparation. I've always wondered which was what actually happend but Guru's vision always seemed more realistic to me.. SuperTron500 08:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Whatever. I'm planning on making a page for the guardian before Kami, so be sure not to screw with it unless you have good cause! =D --SuperTron500 03:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Bros. Kamehameha-Family Kamehameha Redirect

SSJ2AJB Hey Vixen, there's something I want to tell you about. I've been trying open a new article for Bros. Kamehameha, but everytime I try, it always redirects to the Family Kamehameha. I think this is because somebody put "Bros. Kamehameha" as an alternate name for the Family Kamehameha before. (I mean in the text, not infobox.) Is there any possible way you could delete the Bros. Kamehameha name that is redirecting to the Family Kamehameha?

Okay thanks for showing me the Bros. Kamehameha redirect page. Now if you need me, I'll be editing the Bros. Kamehameha page.

Eternal Darkness trivia for Janemba

What you mean Fusion Reborn precedes Eternal Darkness by over a decade? Eternal Darkness came out in 2002! That was around the same time the Buu Saga aired on television, and that is the saga that this movie would have taken place in! It'd have to have been 1992 to precede it by a decade! And even if it did, can you name any movies or games aside from Eternal Darkness and Dragonball Z that use that technique? No, so it's notable regardless of which came first. Ghostkaiba297 15:08, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

In 1999, the Saiyan and Namek Sagas were being shown on TV for the first time! ...or was that just in Canada? If I had to guess, I'd say u live in the US, since it's pretty much the main country of the world... when did the Saiyan Saga and the Namek Saga air for the first time in the US? What about the Fusion Saga? Cause I'm guessing Fusion Reborn would have come out sometime around then. Ghostkaiba297 21:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ultimate Kamehameha


Hey Storm, I just want to ask you something. Well, I was on the List of techniques used by Gohan page and noticed that a new technique called the Ultimate Kamehameha had been put on there. It said it was golden colored and used by Ultimatte Gohan against Super Buu (Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed). Do you think we should accept the new technique or erase it?

Well, okay, I'll get started on the Ultimate Kamehameha on Sunday. (I have to go camping with my dad, brother, and scout troop for Friday night, Saturday, and Sunday morning).
Okay, I got the rough draft for the Ultimate Kamehameha on paper. I just need to copy it on the article page on Sunday. See you then!
Hey, it's me again. Well, as you may or may not know, I just completed the Ultimate Kamehameha page on Sunday. I'm sorry I didn't tell you about it on Sunday, but I got back from camp and was busy with a few things. When you're not busy, feel free to take a look at the article and tell me what you think.
Alright, thanks for the appreciation about the Ultimate Kamehameha.

Fat Buu

Kid Buu, Evil Buu, and Super Buu all have their own pages with Majin Buu a page for all the forms. Why then, cant Fat Buu have is own page? Thunderbender18 23:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay well I tweaked that page on Cell but I dont want to save it without your approval of it. If you message me back I'll save it for a few minutes so can review it and then change it back. If you approve then I will work on condensing the Majin Buu page also.
Thunderbender18 02:48, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'll do it on the Sandbox right now then.
Thunderbender18 02:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
The page is up on the Sandbox now.
Thunderbender18 02:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Then is it okay to change the Cell page now and start working on condensing the Majin Buu Page?
Thunderbender18 19:57, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, the Majin Buu Page is now condensed, I didnt do the conventional merge method so I still need to delete the other three pages, and also I forgot the Character history but Its late so I'll do all that tommarrow.
Thunderbender18 03:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

How does goku dies

This page needs to be deleted.-- bulletproof 19:41, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I found that page on the Recent Changes page. -- bulletproof 00:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Deleted redirect pages

Hey there. You deleted two of my redirects (cc & super saiyen), and gave the reason "Redundant redirect." Could you please explain what you mean? I put those up so someone searching "cc" could find Capsule Corp, as that's a common name, and I know misspelling Saiyan is also common. I'm new to Wiki in general, so I'd love help. Thanks. Jimbomonkey1234 03:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. I wasn't totally sure what the redirects were for. I'll be more careful next time. Jimbomonkey1234 05:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


Can you help me make a Sig,please?

gohanRULEZ 14:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey no problem :) My username is devan2 and I was the one who made that edit to Goku. I have a question: Does Goku become an adult naturally in Dragonball GT? And does he live with his family in the otherworld at the end? Devan2 20:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

List Of Players From Dragon Ball Z

SSJ2AJB Hey, I was on the Recent Changes page and I saw this new page. I decided to take a little look to see what was edited. However, all I saw on that page was the word "Bitch." The only contributor was That page needs to be deleted

about chracters

hi iam mazen who is you and who is your favourite chracter my favourite chracter is android 18 or cyborg 18


I have been thinking about this subject for awhile now and I am finally feeling like it would be useful to the wiki to add it. What I am talking about is that we should include a section in each of the main articles for the movies and specials where it says what in the movie or special made it non-canon or canon to an alternate universe. What do you think? Imortality is a curse. 06:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Hows it goin Vixen

Hey man hows it going? I don't know if you remember me at all, but I took a couple month brake and now I'm back to edit. I was wondering, how exactly do I make my own customized signature? If you do know, I'd love to hear how, otherwise I can probably figure it out somewhere else. If so, thanks a bunch, good to hear from you again. SSJGoku93 04:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Just saying hi

Hey, just wanted to let you know I've missed seeing you around the wiki the past couple weeks. I hope all is well, and if you're taking a break from wiki-ing, I hope you're enjoying yourself! (I took the liberty of answering the above question about signatures.) Hope to see you soon! -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 10:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Article concern

An IP recently created an article called Flash Bang. The IP has also been making questionable edits as of late. He has continued to add FPSSJ and SSJ2 notes to the Goten and Trunks articles. With this on top of the lack of evidence for the actual technique, there is reason to believe that this article was created from pure original research. -- bulletproof 03:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back!

SSJ2AJB Hey, Storm, what's up? It's nice to see you again. I've seen you've taken a few months break and now you're back. PrinceZarbon has achieved administratorship in your abscence and he's been doing a pretty good job, but, you're a good administrator, too. Drop by my talk page anytime you want. Thanks!

Alright, good to see you again.

Re: Hello!

Great to hear from you again! I've kind of been busy with real life lately too and haven't been able to maintain things like I once did, but SSJGoku93 and PrinceZarbon have been helping out tons to maintain order here. As my current wiki project I've been working on a new, revised manual of style. I'm hoping to have it up later this week (which I said about a week ago, LOL) and then as a community we can hopefully work out the details and get it finalized fairly soon. (It'll be nice to get all the recently established consensus consolidated into one place and stop depending on the draft MoS that's been sitting in the forum for so long.) Anyway, it's great that you're around again — I'm sure your input will be invaluable in establishing the new MoS, in addition to all the other great ways you help out around here. -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 06:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


Well, thanks for your welcome, I'm, and I was just passing by, and saw that error. But didn't even think about editing it lol. Uhm, I didn't register earlier because I don't know a lot about Dragon Ball, so I don't think I can be enough help for you people. But well, that template message encouraged me to register (lol, I'm so influentiable), and here I am. Hope I can help at something. --Masatoshi 09:05, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

New Image Request

SSJ2AJB Hey Storm, it's SSJ2AJB again. Remember a few months ago when I asked you to upload a better image of the Angry Kamehameha. If you haven't done that yet though, it's okay, I'm already over it. The current image is a little fuzzy, but at least it's better than the one taken off of YouTube.

This time, however, it's a little more serious. Recently, I've opened up a new article called the Flashing Kamehameha. It's a golden light flashing version of the Kamehameha used by Gohan in his Super Saiyan 2 form. He used the attack a few times to try and destroy Majin Buu's egg, but wasn't powerful enough. The last attack sent Majin Buu's egg into the air. I then saw Gohan firing a larger and more powerful Flashing Kamehameha at the egg, to no effect again. I thought I would call that move the "Super Flashing Kamehameha" and tried to find a screenshot for it at a website called, "www.myfavoritegames.com" However, they didn't have it.

In your spare time, could please upload the image of Gohan firing the Super Flashing Kamehameha? Here's a link to a website showing DBZ Episode 217, the episode where Gohan uses the Super Flashing Kamehameha. When you see the video, Gohan will be performing the attack at 8:58-9:01.

Try to upload this image as soon as you can. Thanks!

New Manual of Style up for review

Hi! I just wanted to let you know that a newly proposed Manual of Style has been written and is undergoing review on its talk page. Please make any of your concerns or ideas known so the manual can be finalized and put to use as soon as possible! Thanks. -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 06:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

New Angry Kamehameha Image

The new Angry Kamehameha image.

SSJ2AJB Hey Storm, I've got some good news for you. I've finally found a much better image of the Angry Kamehameha. When I was looking up some episode screenshots for DBZ Episode 217, I noticed DBZ Episode 90 screenshots and one of them included a clear image of Goku firing the Angry Kamehameha. I decided to upload that image and here it is to the right of me here. You don't have to worry about uploading a new version of the Angry Kamehameha because I already did it. But still try to get that image of Gohan firing the Super Flashing Kamehameha image uploaded as soon as you can (read the section that reads "New Image Request" above Nonoitall's message). Thanks!

Um, hi?

Hey there, hope you remember me and I'm sorry I have been absent for a while but I've had some HUGE problems and couldn't connect but I see the forum has come a long way and I hope to hear more from you!

#17 page

Prince Zarbon has been vandalizing the #17 page, removing some words from #17's bio, causing it to become very controversial. For quite some time now, the statement in #17's bio that I am referring to has always said, "Initially a reckless anarchist, 17 later reveals himself to be little more than a rebel without a cause," and in the History page it says Prince Zarbon has continuously removed words making the statement "Initially a reckless anarchist, 17 later reveals himself to be a rebel without a cause," which conflicts with his entire bio. I've tried putting this on Prince Zarbon's talk page, but it keeps saying the page cannot be editted.

Community discussion

Hi! There's a discussion going on here that would greatly benefit from your input. -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 05:30, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Are you still active? Is it okay with you if I try to finish off the List of Playbale Charcaters in Budokai Tenkaichi 3? BardockGoku  talk  contribs Goku SSJ Namek by shadsonic2-1-.png 06:57, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


HOW could you CHANGE your NAME??? NyanCat.png 21:35, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

This is interesting. Good to see you still edit on wikia Vixen, or should I say Grisly. NappaEyeLaser.Ep.026.pngSuper Saiyan GoateeTaoPaiPai.pngSend me a message!PIccolo12.jpg 21:37, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey whats up? See that you changed your name.Gokussj3uc4.png BardockGoku  talk  contribs Goku SSJ Namek by shadsonic2-1-.png 04:54, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Oh okay, say since you are on, would you like to check out our new Chat feature?Gokussj3uc4.png BardockGoku  talk  contribs Goku SSJ Namek by shadsonic2-1-.png 05:06, January 24, 2012 (UTC)


Hi there. Maybe I was unclear earlier, but just one category is needed for things related to the collectible card game. We don't need separate categories for cards and types of cards. Thank you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:40, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Grizzly..i saw you posted screen shots from Dragon Ball Online. I have been trying to play it forever, I am a very avid World of Warcraft player with 8 max lvl90 characters and Id really like to find a new MMO and Dragon Ball Online looks amazing since it combines WoW and DBZ. Can you tell me how and where i can start playing?