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Broly's friend

Sorry. I figured it would've been a good time to mention how the green pelt he wears is actually a momento of the giant Monster he befriended back at Planet Vampa. I don't really know how to spell it's name (Baa). WhalBP (talk) 19:37, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

The creature looks like this:


WhalBP (talk) 19:41, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Series Switch

Please don’t make new series switch templates, thanks. Especially not for a video game since there are so many. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:50, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't the anime of it still count as a series. DragonEmeperor (talk) 20:53, December 16, 2018 (UTC)


Dude. You've recieved numerous complaints. Stop undoing everyone's edits without saying why you're doing them. There were perfectly legitimate edits in Broly:BR's personality page that you undid not just once, but twice. Thus is getting annoying. You're literally the only one allowed to make any edits according to you. ExyleCage (talk) 11:56, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

I only removed parts that weren't needed. DragonEmeperor (talk) 17:12, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Defintitely missed the point there my guy. You remove things too often and decide whether something can stay or not without taking it to the talk page. It's not exactly fair to everyone else when you're the only one who gets to make important/big edits. ExyleCage (talk) 17:37, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not doing all of the big edits by myself. Plus, last time I tried to take it to the talk, a certain user pushed me over the edge. Because of that, I'm leaving for awhile when Super ends. DragonEmeperor (talk) 17:44, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah. I know. I argued in favor of you but the mod never took the time to warn him when he clearly insulted your intelligence. But you still need to take it to the talk page and come to a concensus before undoing, or making, an edit. It's only fair and it'll keep you out of trouble. You just gotta keep calm and br careful. ExyleCage (talk) 19:20, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

I tried explaining it to him in the edit summary but he still didn't listen. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:01, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

That's when you drop the subject and report him for edit waring. Explaining in the edit summary doesn't really do much because he'll just get pissed and start talking crap. He's been blocked for that sort of thing before. I honestly don't see why he wasn't this time, why he was clearly attempting to provoke you. That, however, does not change the fact that you need to be open to discussion on these sort of things. Notice how I conceded in the Gogeta talk page? Sometimes you have to take a break and regroup. Nobody will think less of you for it. In fact, you'd gain a great deal of respect by asking people to discuss the matter. Once it turns toxic, report it and say nothing else to the toxic person. You'll avoid a LOT of complaints and insults by doing so. ExyleCage (talk) 22:51, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

That's why I'm a taking break for awhile. It used to be fun but now its almost like politics. Stressful. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:47, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Other languages

Is it necessary to create templates for Chinese and Korean languages since the Korean and Chinese releases of Dragon Ball Online are from Korea and China respectively? Wc12271991 (talk) 08:01, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

No. DragonEmeperor (talk) 09:09, December 24, 2018 (UTC)
Would you recommend adding the hover template to those? Wc12271991 (talk) 22:08, December 25, 2018 (UTC)
I think using the nihongo template is alright for those languages. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:21, December 25, 2018 (UTC)
However, nihongo means "Japanese language". Wc12271991 (talk) 22:51, December 25, 2018 (UTC)
Well, people don't really bother with the other languages, so there's no need to create a template for them. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:34, December 25, 2018 (UTC)
I see. Wc12271991 (talk) 23:45, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

SS Blue (Evolved)

I'd appreciate if you left the SS Blue (Evolved) page alone. Shinka is already represented as an alternate name, it's just taking up space on the page otherwise. I don't want to contact an Admin about it, but I can if you want to pursue this further, but you and I both don't want to waste our time with that. Fused Zamasu (talk) 20:21, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

Its still sourced information. DragonEmeperor (talk) 20:24, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

Seeing as you're not stopping, I'll be contacting Yonedge about this matter. Fused Zamasu (talk) 06:46, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

I already reported you. Everything is sourced but you wanna keep removing it for no reason. People need to know the original name for this form just like how Super Saiyan Blue was called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:53, December 28, 2018 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed you reverted my edit on the "Full Power Super Saiyan 4" article. I'm not angry with you and I'm not going to rude to you, I just want to give you a chance to explain your decision and then let me explain my side, and we can both come to a polite, peaceful conclusion. I'm going to be direct with you and say that I don't believe my edit should have been revised, but I want to hear your thoughts on the matter to avoid any kind of edit war. DoctorBleed (talk) 06:25, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Your trivia wasn't wrong, it just needed to be reworded as SSJ God can be achieved by the ritual involving other Saiyans or special divine training. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:34, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Vegeta Trivia

Can you please stop changing my edits concerning Vegeta original animation colors in his trivia and why did you remove the information regarding Vegeta’s color in his debut appearance in the dragon ball full color manga? Whenever you remove someone’s edit you need to notify them immediately on why you changed it. I don’t see any valid reason as to why his colors in the dragon ball full color manga while he makes his debut appearance can’t be there. I liked it how it was before you changed it. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 22:57, December 28, 2018 (UTC)).

You removed my edit for no reason as well. Plus, I merged the part mentioned about DBZ Kai into it. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:13, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Alright sorry about that, I know I did that and should of told you but before you removed parts of my edits concerning Vegeta coloring fix in Kai and in the Dragon Ball full color manga so I undid your edit because I felt it should be there. I’m going to be honest I was kind of a little upset that you removed it so I undid your edit without your knowledge. So please if you remove someone’s edit or parts of it please notify them immediately. And if I undo your edit I will notify you immediately on it next time because I know I should of told you beforehand. Thanks for at least adding the Dragon Ball Z Kai part but give me your reason as to why the dragon ball full color manga can’t be there. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:26, December 28, 2018 (UTC))

I didn't remove your edit as the only edit I did yesterday on Vegeta's page was changing the redirect to King Vegeta. Today, I fix redirect and just merged Kai. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:31, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Alright glad to know that. But I did change a little bit of your edit by adding more explanation to the Kai version of Vegeta’s animation coloring in the trivia also maybe the dragon ball full color manga doesn’t have to be there since it’s manga and not animation only because the error happened in the animation and not the manga. Should I remove the dragon ball full color manga? I want to change a little bit of stuff about Vegeta concerning his coloring error. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:42, December 28, 2018 (UTC))


What was the point undoing that? I just made sure the Super Saiyan Blue link showing on the God-Like Saiyan page just like Super Saiyan Rosé and Super Saiyan God. SSGDaniel3 (talk) 00:30, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Super Saiyan Blue is already linked, remember it was originally called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan first, so it is linked through that.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  00:45,12/29/2018 

Seriously?? If thats the case, then the links to Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Rosé shouldn't be there since both forms have the links through SSGSS as well. It makes no sense. SSGDaniel3 (talk) 01:03, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

God and Rosé are separate forms, SSGSS is the original name for Blue. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:07, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, never mind. And DragonEmperor, what you said about Rosé isn't entirely true. According to what some of these pages are saying, Rosé is not too far to be a separate form, but a separate level and color. Sure SSGSS is the original name for Blue, but in some of the pages they keep saying Rosé is SSGSS. So I'll leave this alone for now. SSGDaniel3 (talk) 02:41, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

That part about Rosé was my mistake, but you already understand what I meant. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:43, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah. Anyways, I'll respect your undoing on the SSB link. 👍👍👍 SSGDaniel3 (talk) 02:56, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Tagoma Quote

It's been corrected and modified, just like you asked. BlazingWolfJanne

Thanks. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:32, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Why did you remove

Trunks (Future) now being able to sense Godly Ki?? FlatZone (talk) 20:42, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

I know, but I think he gained it from training with Future Supreme Kai. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:19, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Stop reverting my edits for no reason, please.

Stop reverting my edits on Gogeta and Grand Supreme Kai's pages for no reason. For one, the section about Gogeta's appearance is full of bad grammar and misinformation that I corrected. And Grand Supreme Kai isn't Daikaioh; Daikaioh was a mistranslation on FUNimation's part. Strawberries1 (talk) 01:54, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

He call Daikaioh by the name Funimation gave him like we call Shen by his: Hero. As for Gogeta, I mentioned skin tone difference in the trivia since he does have Goku's skin in Fusion Reborn. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:08, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

"Daikaioh" was a mistranslation in the original FUNimation dub. It was corrected as "Grand Supreme Kai" in DBZ Kai, which is dubbed by FUNimation as well. We should be using the newer, accurate name instead of old, inaccurate one. And base Gogeta does not have Goku's skin tone; you can't say he had it in Fusion Reborn, because base Gogeta wasn't in that movie. Gogeta was only shown with peach skin as an SS1 in Fusion Reborn; everyone has peach skin in SS1.Strawberries1 (talk) 02:18, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Well talk to Neff for Daikaioh's name then cause he's the one who changed it to that. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:24, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Very well, but stop reverting my edits to the Gogeta article. DBS Broly is the very first time Gogeta's base form was formally introduced in the franchise; it can't be determined what his base skin tone was before. Strawberries1 (talk) 03:28, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

I'm glad we're past the skin issue. Still, there's no need to revert my other edits. "Body structure" is a redundant term to use; the actual word you're looking for is "physique". "Physique" refers to how a person's body is structured; better to just use that word instead of needlessly using more text. Strawberries1 (talk) 09:29, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Already fixed it. DragonEmeperor (talk) 09:34, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Why remove my talk on Dark Broly's special attack?

It's blatantly a homage to how he killed Paragus, and we could add a trivia point to it since it's a shot for shot copy. I supplied links as evidence, so I don't see why you removed it from the talk page.(Hadrimon (talk) 20:08, January 2, 2019 (UTC))

Tournament of Destroyers

Frost's win against Goku was annulled and he was allowed to return. I literally have the manga in front of me. HalfShadow (talk) 20:08, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Then you have use "In the manga" because in the anime, Universe 6 kept the win, but still allowed Goku to return. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:39, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough. HalfShadow (talk) 00:12, January 4, 2019 (UTC)


How is that not a typo? "whis" is not a word.Marcusbwfc (talk) 08:17, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

Actually Whis is a word and also the name of a character in the series, who apparently acknowledges the piece of trivia in the anime and/or manga.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  08:28,1/5/2019 
Ah. I put her as a link on the page then to avoid future confusion.Marcusbwfc (talk) 08:51, January 5, 2019 (UTC)
Whis is a guy. Do you even watch the show?
Orion (T-B-C) 11:41, January 5, 2019 (UTC)


I'm told (and saw at least one example) youre undoing Gogeta Omni's edits without an explanation as to why. He's a new user so he's not going to understand or appreciate it and that just puts new users off from editing.

Make sure you explain if you have to undo someone's edit.Bullza (talk) 16:22, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Please, DragonEmeperor . Why are you still undoing my edits without giving any explanation? At least leave some comments on my talk page or in the edit summary or the talk page of the character.

Every edits are removed by you without giving reasons for it.Gogeta Omni (talk) 03:57, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Because you keep making mistakes and re-adding information that's already up here. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:37, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

You should still be giving explanations. It's incredibly rude and disrespectful to undo edits without explaining why. This is what we've all been trying to tell you. ExyleCage (talk) 04:39, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Right and now this guy is saying he won't edit here again and that's exactly what I mentioned to you more than once, you're putting people off from taking part by being too controlling. It's why despite you asking to be made an Admin it's unlikely to happen because of your attitude with other users. You can't just keep undoing people's edits, especially without an explanation, likewise you also can't be going to other users talk page and leaving them a warning. You aren't an admin, you can't give people warnings.Bullza (talk) 14:33, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Actually Bullza yes he can give people warnings as long as he does so in a friendly way like "Hey your edit is disputed so please leave the page as is and take this to the article talk page till a consensus is reached or until no one has replied after you gave them enough time to notice the new section", heck he could do what I have done which Gogeta Omni is mentioned which was leave a message on his talk page. Anyways while I agree to some extent that it is rude and disrespectful not to leave an edit summary when you undo someone's edit, at times the one undoing the edit could be in a rush (I have been some of the times I didn't leave an edit summary) and forget to leave one.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  14:43,1/15/2019 

Question about the Goku who got killed by Goku Black

How is the Goku that got killed by Goku Black even from Universe 10? Wc12271991 (talk) 21:23, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

It's not talking about Universe 10, just the timeline itself. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:43, January 10, 2019 (UTC)
The one in that universe or the one in Universe 7? Wc12271991 (talk) 23:56, January 10, 2019 (UTC)
Timelines contain universes; not the other way around.
Orion (T-B-C) 00:06, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
Then how do you explain the main timeline being unaltered in Dragon Ball Super if it's altered in Dragon Ball Z? Wc12271991 (talk) 00:23, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
What do you mean?
Orion (T-B-C) 00:14, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
Future Trunks went back in time for the first time and during his first trip, his time travel altered the main timeline. In Dragon Ball Super, he went back in time in order to escape from Goku Black. Wc12271991 (talk) 00:23, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
It's a little complicated, but I'll try to explain. Trunks' first time travel created a branch in the timeline. Because this event (Trunks traveling through time) was not part of the original timeline, it created a branch - in one timeline (his original timeline), he didn't travel through time; in another (the one the series takes place), he did. The second time he traveled through time, however, since it didn't create another branch, was already part of the original branch he created when he traveled through time the first time. In other words, his second time travel was part of the established history of the series' timeline.
Orion (T-B-C) 00:31, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
Is that to say that Goku Black is from a branch in the timeline? Wc12271991 (talk) 00:37, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
Well, yes. Future Trunks' timeline is the original and unaltered timeline. That's how everything was supposed to go. The timeline the series take place in, from the Cell saga onwards, is a branch of that original timeline. Goku Black's timeline in Super is the inevitable conclusion of Trunks traveling back in time the first time.
The timeline we're now following, the one where Zamasu never became Goku Black because he was killed by Beerus, is a branch of that branch in the timeline.
Orion (T-B-C) 00:49, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
So, the Goku who got killed by Goku Black was in Goku Black's timeline; not in Timeline 1? Wc12271991 (talk) 00:55, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure which timeline you've designated timeline 1, but yes, the Goku who was killed by Goku Black was in Goku Black's timeline, which is the one resulting from Trunks' first time travel.
Orion (T-B-C) 00:58, January 11, 2019 (UTC)

Fandom TOS

Fandom TOS says that one may not remove anything from their Talk Page/Message Wall. They may only archive it. https://www.fandom.com/curse-terms-of-service Just wanted to let you know because you removed someone's edit from your talk page, which isn't allowed. ExyleCage (talk) 16:06, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

NervousShipper wasn't even talking about nothing and messaged me outta nowhere. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:05, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
Where does it say you can't remove anything from a talk page or message wall?
Orion (T-B-C) 18:09, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Hold on, that was MY mistake. It was on this page and I read the sentence wrong. https://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Talk_pages It says it's POLITE not to remove something from the talk page. Not against the rules. I acknowledge my stupidity, and I'm sorry. ExyleCage (talk) 20:51, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Pic for Note

I'm sorry. I was trying to add a picture of Note I took into the gallery. Didn't know why it wasn't working. —This unsigned comment was made by Super Saiyan 2 Note (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

You have to download it first, then upload it through here. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:15, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

this was the image I was trying to do.


https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:168DED69-95EE-41FA-BCC1-B41F62039213.jpeg —This unsigned comment was made by Super Saiyan 2 Note (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Its added. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:25, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

I'll get one for Viola, one for Forte, one for Beat, one for Erito and one for Basaku. The photos I took are from Youtube videos. —This unsigned comment was made by Super Saiyan 2 Note (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:AEF59B09-2303-46BE-9BA6-FDF17BEE43B0.jpeg this is Viola. —This unsigned comment was made by Super Saiyan 2 Note (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:98ED4262-DD5D-4F6C-ABE3-11AC4FF12160.jpeg Forte

https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:60CD6AD1-B478-4D4B-8869-653179AC94C9.jpeg Beat

https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:3164337B-4AA2-43FF-A958-3B003D0AAE65.jpeg Erito

https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:E6BE3D5C-A471-4B9C-823C-DAEBA6700F5D.jpeg Basaku

now edit them —This unsigned comment was made by Super Saiyan 2 Note (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!


why did you delete my edit i had on kuriza which was a minor personaity edition i added which had minor grammar issues aside from that it was compltely factually


Ahem. I was adding to the gallery. That's all. Leave the galleries alone. —This unsigned comment was made by Super Saiyan 2 Note (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I'm not the only one that removed them and their just snapshots with terrible quality. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:50, January 21, 2019 (UTC)
Indeed those pictures are not suitable quality, they would need to be screenshots rather than snapshots. --Neffyarious (talk) 21:54, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Zamasu in DB Legends

heres the link: https://legends.dbz.space/news/444 —This unsigned comment was made by Ti9MK97s (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Its Future Zamasu. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:39, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

True Golden Freiza

Thats what happens in the movie. Every source Ive seen has considered the movie canon, so what happened in it should be considered Usage & Power. —This unsigned comment was made by Ti9MK97s (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

True Golden doesn't appear in the movie, only Golden. Ask anyone up here who watched the movie and they will tell you. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:11, January 22, 2019 (UTC)
I did see the movie. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM9LZk9irKg 1:14 —This unsigned comment was made by Ti9MK97s (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!
That's Golden Frieza. I seen the movie as well, True Golden Frieza doesn't appear in the movie. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:26, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

True Golden Frieza is anime-only, so we don't list it as appearing in the movie, what appears in the movie is Golden Frieza. --Neffyarious (talk) 22:33, January 22, 2019 (UTC)


Why did you undo my message in Heat Dome Attack Unnamedblockster661 (talk) 10:43, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

Because I checked the link and its not Heat Dome, but something different. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:35, January 26, 2019 (UTC)
What is it then? Unnamedblockster661 (talk) 00:06, January 27, 2019 (UTC)
Just a wall of flames as there's nothing similar between the techniques. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:34, January 27, 2019 (UTC)
Is there a similarity to any other attack then?

Unnamedblockster661 (talk) 06:19, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think I ever seen anybody use an attack similar to a wall of fire. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:40, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
Burst Attack makes a fire wall. Unnamedblockster661 (talk) 12:17, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
I listed it on List of influences on popular culture. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:05, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

Reverted edits

I knew there was a reason this wiki was stuck in the stone age. Some egomaniacal asshole that isn't even a mod, who won't let anyone touch his precious pages and reverts anything he can find an excuse to even if it improves the page. Do this site a favor and leave my edits alone. Ahawowow (talk) 01:02, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

I agree.TerronScibe (talk) 15:04, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Like your one to talk. I changed Dabura's quote to match that of the english anime dub exactly. Why did you undo my edit when their was no real reason to? Mugiwara1994 (talk) 13:25, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

I honestly didn't notice it was changed. I was deleting the empty spaces and listing the navigation and quote on different lines. DragonEmeperor (talk) 17:17, February 24, 2019 (UTC)


User:LordSchmee's edits were not vandalism of any sort, and he took the time to explain his stance, you should really have responded when undoing them - even just with "use talk". --Neffyarious (talk) 17:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)


It appears there is a dupicate on the Dragon Bal Timeline page.

The event of Bipidi using Majin Buu to attack the Kaioshins appears twice, I think its just a typo. The first is the original, which happens 5 million years before age and cited in the Dazenshuus. The second is tagged onto the info about the Multi-Uversal hide and seek game in era 239,856 before age. ​​​A source isnt even cited for the second one, so I tried to correct this but my change was reverted. So I fugred I would let you know why I changed it and you can look into it.

Quoted below:

5 Million years Before Age
Bibidi successfully summons Majin Buu who destroys thousands of planets. Four of the five Supreme Kais are killed with Buu absorbing both the South Supreme Kai and Daikaioh, adding an aspect of good to him, as well as changing his appearance. Eventually, the East Supreme Kai kills Bibidi and leaves Buu's shell on Earth.
239,856 years Before Age
Sometime around or after this point, the All Universe Hide and Seek Tournament had to be cancelled.
Sometime after this point Bibidi unleashes Majin Buu, who kills the North Supreme Kai and West Supreme Kai and absorbs Daikaioh and the South Supreme Kai.

Macprodukshunz (talk) 03:33, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Its not wrong, there are two versions of it. One from Dragon Ball and one from Dragon Ball Super. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:36, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
Actually, I just found out what happened and removed the second deaths. Something different happened in that year and put that info up instead. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:58, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah according to Merus, on page 16 of chapter 43 in the Dragon Ball Super manga, Buu absorbs the Daikaioh 5 MILLION YEARS after Moros capture. Since Moros capture was 10 million years before age, that means Buu's attack on Kaiōshins is still the same, 5 million years before age, because 10 million - 5 million is 5 million. Which means DBS is consistent with the original version in the Daisenzuus. Macprodukshunz (talk) 17:08, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Oh I just realized its been edited, thnkas for looking into that. Macprodukshunz (talk) 17:11, January 31, 2019 (UTC)


Is there any particular reason you are removing the edits I am making to the Lucifer article? I would say it is notable to list him as the main antagonist of Movie 2, especially since, like I said, every other movie villain is said on their article the movie they are the antagonist in? Dont Be a Sad Panda (talk) 04:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Because its the trend for all main villains. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:09, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
... I'm sorry, I don't understand. Are you saying it's the trend for all main villains to be the main antagonist in their film? Because if that's the case, then why does every main villain article, such as King Gurumes or Bojack, list the movie they are the antagonist in in the beginning article, EXCEPT for Lucifer? Should their mentions be removed as well? Dont Be a Sad Panda (talk) 04:15, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
I'm saying every villain is mentioned in which movie or saga they are antagonist in. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
It looks like you reverted your edit back to mine. I'm glad we could reach an understanding. Dont Be a Sad Panda (talk) 04:22, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
I didn't notice it at first because I was editing on multiple pages. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:25, January 31, 2019 (UTC)


On Guardian#List of Guardians you removed my edit and said "It's still sourced" what does that mean? There is no real life religion in the world of Dragon Ball. —This unsigned comment was made by TerronScibe (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

That section you removed was from Daizenshuu 7. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:47, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
It is not mentioned in the orginal Daizenshuu 7: Dragon Ball Encyclopedia! Either submit a weblink that proves it or I'll contact administration.

TerronScibe (talk) 04:15, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages

A heads up, you may only remove posts on your own talk page, and those that clearly do not belong on the article talk pages (e.g. something that would be better suited to a blog than actual page discussion). --Neffyarious (talk) 20:28, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

What the hell

What the hell Dragon my edit to Ultra Instinct (transformation) had no reason to be undone, the image is in the gallery twice.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  22:17,1/31/2019 

The camera moves up slowly to reveal Goku's body. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:36, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
The image I removed that you re-added was the same as the one that has a caption under it, they are both
Ultra Instinct Goku Full Body.jpg
.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  23:54,1/31/2019 
I just removed the second one as I didn't know it was added twice. DragonEmeperor (talk) 00:44, February 1, 2019 (UTC)
Ok that was what I had done.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  01:18,2/1/2019 

The Vandal

Notice how he stopped screwing with you when I told him I reported him to administration? I didn't think it would be that easy amd honestly thought he was gonna start vandalizing MY page. Lmao. ExyleCage (talk) 02:34, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I reported him when he was doing it. He even kept saying "BLOCK ME TO STOP", so I'm sure he'll be gone for awhile with all of the evidence I gave to Neff and 0551E80Y. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Super Ep 111

Didn't Jiren also say he was needed to defeat Maji Kayo were Dyspo couldn't? Thenmark2 (talk)

Except Maji wasn't that much of a threat as Goku and Hit were. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:10, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Tobi's appearance and alternate name

I was only editing his appearance and alternate name spelling. His appearance was blank, and noone didn't think about editing it, so someone had to do it and I did. I added some real detail to his visualization. And his own name did have an alternate spelling. Never undo a persons edit without a consult man. —This unsigned comment was made by Paladin78 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I tried fixing the appearance section but it was over detailed. DragonEmeperor (talk) 20:38, February 7, 2019 (UTC)


The user Awawowow is again saying you're undoing his edits without explaining why. Either tell him directly on his talk page, use the article talk page or at the least explain in the description of an edit before undoing more of his edits.Bullza (talk) 13:02, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

I wasn't finishing fixing his edit. DragonEmeperor (talk) 17:40, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Broly: "Biography" vs. "Film appearances"

I've been under the assumption that the whole point of the "Film appearances" section of an article is to provide information from movies that don't fit into the main timeline of Dragon Ball. If this is the case then surely biographical information about Dragon Ball Super: Broly should be included in the "Biography" section of all articles as the movie is part of the main Dragon Ball timeline. O21014 (talk) 16:55, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

The idea had to be nixed. This also applied to Battle of Gods and Resurrection F as well but that created a confusing mess where both the movie and anime version of the same story was lumped together in the main biography.
There's only one version of Broly so far but we have to be consistent, so all the movies go together, canon or not.Bullza (talk) 17:09, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Tertiary characters

If you come across any pages like this - Peruka, which are practically empty pages for nobody characters, then feel free to point them out because they can be merged with the List of tertiary characters page and then those other pages can be deleted.Bullza (talk) 17:09, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Full Body Image

Hey, sorry to ask about such a meaningless question, but It's something I always wondered how to do.

Ultra Instinct Goku.png

This image of Goku is only a close-up, as you can obviously see.

Ultra Instinct Goku Full Body.jpg

This one, however, is a complete full-body image after achieving UI.

Here's where my question lies: How does one take an image and make it a full-length/full body one? I remember that scene. It slowly showed Goku's new form, with the camera slowly going upwards from his feet, all the to his head, but not a complete full-body shot of his form in that specific scene. Is there an App or something that allows someone to take a full-body screenshot?

Again, sorry for the idiotic and meaningless question, but It's something I've been looking to do for quite awhile, but never knew how to. I'd appreciate it if you knew how to, and told me about it. Thanks in advance.

HygorBohmHubner (talk) 02:57, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

I don't know how since I don't focus on photos. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:53, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

SSJ and LSSJ edit warring.

Put a stop to it, child. If you don't I'll have to report you. If you have a problem with it, talk about it in the respective talk pages like an adult. —This unsigned comment was made by Rogeta234 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

It was changed that way by Neff due to it being official in DBS. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:23, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

I might have a talk with him about it. In the meantime, quit your edit wars on articles.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:46, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

Android 17 edits


We've talked about it before, but apparently to no avail. I even took it to 17's talk page, but got no reply.

Anyway, I really wish you would stop undoing my edits. As I tried to explain to you, Goku doesn't say in Japanese that he will try not to kill 17, in DB Super ep.86.

I've checked that passage in its original Japanese language, and here's what Goku actually says: "本当は しねえつもりだったけんどよ" (hontô wa shinê tsumori datta kendo yo). I even checked the actual quote from Japanese web sites, to be sure I understood properly.

And there's not the shadow of a doubt that this is indeed what Goku says. It literally means "to be honest, I didn't intend to (go super Saiyan Blue)". Nothing about him trying not to kill 17.

The official English subs, written by Crunchyroll, also say the same thing: "to be honest, I didn't intend to". Same thing with the official English dub. And the French dub. Or any other dub, for that matter. Every single dub/sub is faithful to the Japanese text that says that Goku didn't intend to go SS Blue.

Here are the dialogues exchanged during the fight, taken from a Japanese web site. Any online translator will confirm that I am right.

17号「そんな変身も できるのか。」(so you can transform like that, too)

孫悟空「本当は しねえつもりだったけんどよ。」(to be honest, I didn't intend to)

17号「手を抜いていたというわけか。 ふざけたやつだ。」(so, you were holding back. You're a real jokester)

孫悟空「そういう お前も 本気じゃなかったみてえだな。」(I guess you were not serious either)

17号「フン。 続きをやるか。」 (hmpf! Do you want to continue?)

孫悟空「ここなら 森も関係ねえから 思いっ切りな。」(there's no need to worry about the forest here)


I don't know where you got your info from, according to which Goku says he'll try not to kill 17 in Japanese, but that is false information.

So, I would really appreciate it if you would let me do my edits, as they are based on FACTS that can be easily proved.

Thanks a lot.

Pierre.senninger.7 (talk) 12:55, February 14, 2019 (UTC)Pierre Senninger

First off, I said his talk page, not a thread. Second, that info was founded by an admin with lots of sources, but he hasn't been up here for awhile so the info has to stay the same until we get a clear consensus. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:43, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your reply. I understand better now. Maybe that's what Gokû was supposed to say initially, but that line was changed at the last minute. If that's the case, we should still rephrase that part. As it is, you would think the subs don't match what Gokû is actually saying. Pierre.senninger.7 (talk) 23:35, February 14, 2019 (UTC)Pierre Senninger

Like this, "In the official subs, after becoming Super Saiyan Blue, Goku also notes that he did not intend to go Super Saiyan Blue during the battle, but did so because of how strong Android 17 was. In the original Japanese version, Goku said he will try not to kill 17." DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:44, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

That's still problematic, as it leads you to believe that the English subtitles say one think, while the original Japanese dialogues say something else. In other words, you're under the impression that the person/team that translated from Japanese to English made a mistake and totally mistranslated what Gokû is actually saying. Although that's not the case, the English subtitles are 100% accurate.

I guess we should let the admins have the final word.

Pierre.senninger.7 (talk) 00:04, February 15, 2019 (UTC)Pierre Senninger

Last chance

This is the very last time I'm going to bring this up because it's happening way too often now. Yet another person has come to me and said that you've been undoing his edits for no reason, particularly regarding images. So I took a bit of a look and sure enough, two images that were added to the Broly section, which were a good addition, you took out...you didn't explain why you did that but you did.

Same thing happened last week with Ahawowow, the two sections above this mention a similar thing, this is now the third time I've had to leave a message here just this year as well, amongst other examples.

I'm sure you have your own reason for doing so but that's not good enough because these other people don't know it and just get annoyed by it.

So I'll make it as clear as I can. If you're going to undo someone's edit, explain in the edit description why you did so. Do not get into any edit wars and instead go to the article talk page. You've had more chances with this than most other users would have gotten purely because of the volume of contributions you make but if this happens again I will have to block you for a little while because all these issues people have brought up don't seem to be making any difference.Bullza (talk) 15:06, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

I think I should add that were have been far too merciful with you DragonEmperor for far too long at the expense of the goodwill from the rest of the community.. I told you last year what you could have done  to avoid making yourself this controversial figure by following my instructions which would have worked and yet you chose to ignore them and made created a bigger impact for yourself for when the bill comes due.

I am certain that your actions, choices and method of how you chose to do things here will have lasting effect  for us admins on how to handle users that chose to do things the way you have.  Future users after you that chooses to follow in your footsteps of mass editing daily and undoing other user's edits without explaining to them will be met instantly with  being thrown the book about the rules at them and would not be accepted gracefully for mass editing daily which causes people to view them as trying to take over the wiki by themselves, as users who have complained about you, describe you as when they come into conflict with you.

While wiki editing to make articles about topics as high quality as possible for readers to enjoy. It should never come at the cost of ruining the community over doing it. This kind of acitivity will be condoned in the future from now on. 0551E80Y (talk) 15:58, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

You know what I'm done here. Even when I started explaining my edits I'm still getting this. I wasn't undoing for the hell of it. I was fixing the small mistakes other users do. I'm even asked another user to take an issue to the talk page with me. If a user think I rubbed them the wrong way, they leave me a message and I'll tell them whats up. I did this before and after talking it out, we come to common ground because it was a misunderstanding. But you know what forget it cause I'm leaving forever and never looking back. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:06, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Here to Talk?

Hey it's me, a concerned user. I've noticed that you've said that "you're done with this Wiki" but you're still here. Care to explain? SpaceGhost4 (talk) 04:17, February 19, 2019 (UTC)Buzz Lightyer

Are you being serious or trying to start something again. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:00, February 19, 2019 (UTC)

True Golden Frieza

so why did you undo my true golden freiza edit? you already undid my edits in the past with no response even when you where wrong. so can i ask why  Shin the science guy (talk) 00:51, February 26, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

The part you removed has a source but it never added for reason, so I added it. DragonEmeperor (talk) 00:54, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

uhm what? you re added him having the pure progress? the "evidence" and source does not prove anything (since it assumes sidra =toppo in power) —This unsigned comment was made by Shin the science guy (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Frieza is a confirmed user of Pure Progress. You can also talk to Neff since he found the info. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:48, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

show me the confirmation then Shin the science guy (talk) 02:56, February 26, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

What Conformation? DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:00, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

You said freiza is a confirmed user of pure progress.where is the confirmation? —This unsigned comment was made by Shin the science guy (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I gave you a link on Neff's talk but if that's still not enough, you could wait for him to respond back. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:36, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

Ultra Instinct/Broly movie edit.

I feel that the Ultra Instinct cameo in the Broly movie needed acknowledgment that we do not know the exact nature of its appearance just like we don’t know of green hair Vegeta is actually foreshadowing or is just an artistic choice. Much of the community (DB, not fandom) really seems to be debating these two, and it’s frustrating because Nagamine likes to fiddle with the color palette so such things might have no real consequence. I have no idea why you removed it because it looks like you don’t really give many reasons to anyone.

Don’t bother replying. I’ve already filed to close my account, don’t have any use for it otherwise. But a little bit of reasoning here and there might make for some better first impressions for new users. —This unsigned comment was made by JediJuliusDavin (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I never said it was it either, only similar due to appearances. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:38, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

SSJ A-type

you just love undoing edits without telling anybody a reason. Broli-type
Broli appeared in the movies. A-type is distinguished by him not having gold hair while he’s a Super Saiya-jin. B-type is a powered up Super Saiya-jin state. He’s called the legendary Super Saiya-jin, since he loves destruction and slaughter, like the Super Saiya-jin of Saiya-jin legend. Both types are from when he fought with Goku on New Planet Vegeta. C-type is his form from when he battles Gohan and the others on Earth; he later transformed into B-type. It’s a Super Saiya-jin that’s evolved differently.
 it clearly states he never wasin the form in  the first movie Shin the science guy (talk) 23:16, March 1, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

It made its debut in the film. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:42, March 1, 2019 (UTC)

You just don't understand it at all, do you?Rogeta234 (talk) 23:58, March 1, 2019 (UTC)

Rogeta, what are you interfering for. Shin and I are discussing this issue. DragonEmeperor (talk) 00:04, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
Because you've been doing it for so long, a lot of people are getting sick of it. That's why. You can't just revert edits without providing an explanation with solid evidence.Rogeta234 (talk) 00:07, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
I have started explaining but you show up out of nowhere trying to start something as usual. DragonEmeperor (talk) 00:12, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

Not gonna lie this Rogeta guy is right .  you keeping undoing edits and following your info .  also how can it make its debut in the film if the info clealry states it only appeared on earth. Shin the science guy (talk) 20:53, March 2, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

Because it says when becoming enraged at the appearance and mention of Kakarot he proceeds to transform from Super Saiyan A-type into C-type Super Saiyan (with green hair) - back to A-type Super Saiyan - and then into Legendary Super Saiyan. There's even a picture right here. DragonEmeperor (talk) 00:10, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Do you even check your sources? One super saiayn c type has golden hair(normal super saiyan) 2nd that an animation error(literally look a second later he is blue haired) Shin the science guy (talk) 01:52, March 3, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

Do you even remember how sometimes the hair turns green in c type. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:56, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

No because it doesn't.(unless you count kale who is completely different). either way how are you thinking its c type> the "green hair" is blue literally a second after its obivously an animation error(unless you believe goku is a redhead)Shin the science guy (talk) 03:47, March 3, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

Well you know what, talk to Neff then because your doing the same you did with Pure Progress and True Golden Frieza. Unless someone else agrees with the change, the page will have to stay the same way it was before until there's an agreement or an admin assists. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:55, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Ah i see no proof . gotcha Shin the science guy (talk) 18:35, March 3, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

Exactly. It was just an Animation error and nothing more.Rogeta234 (talk) 18:40, March 3, 2019 (UTC)


Super Saiyan A Type is confirmed as an actual form, what’re you all debating? Chrome0X (talk) 16:58, March 5, 2019 (UTC)

We were talking about C-type appearing in Broly TLSSJ. DragonEmeperor (talk) 19:37, March 5, 2019 (UTC)

I dont think talking to this guy gets anywhere at allShin the science guy (talk) 02:56, March 6, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

C Type is his normal SS form B Type is Legendary A Type is the suppressed form of his SS. What’s the debate about? Chrome0X (talk) 00:45, March 7, 2019 (UTC)

Its already over and settled. DragonEmeperor (talk) 00:57, March 7, 2019 (UTC)

when was this settled? Shin the science guy (talk) 16:25, March 9, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

Dont really remmeber us settling anything over super saiyan a type Shin the science guy (talk) 16:26, March 9, 2019 (UTC)Shin the sceince guy

Seriously its like you just want it their because you dont want to be wrong.It NEVER APPEARED ONCE IN THE MOVIE. never. its an animation error. just like goku hair being red. BY your own logic broly went from super saiyan A type then to C type and then back to A type then into legendary super saiyan, I cant understand why you are so stubborn. Shin the science guy (talk) 01:50, March 10, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

The guide says he used it on Earth, not that he only used it on Earth. Would be pointless to say "he used it on Earth and for a split second on New Vegeta". The change back to A-type is the "animation error", as they clearly animate his hair going from blue to green, and then cut back to a previously used frame of A-type. C-type is also in the flashbacks in B-TLSS. --Neffyarious (talk) 16:41, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

First of all i am talking about when broly is transfomring into legendary suepr saiyan . where not talking about if he ever went in it the movie(thought the way i word it is wierd). A type is not the aniamtion error. . C type(which i have told dragonemperor it was not as the hair colour was pure green,c type has barely noticable greenish tint) lasted literlaly only a split second and in that excact frame you can see goku hair as  red,.Its a clear as day aniamtion error .Rogeta and me agreed on this .only emperor wants its the same for some reasonShin the science guy (talk) 17:31, March 10, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

You heard him say A-type was the animation error. That means that part has to be rewritten. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:14, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

Neff saying it means what excactly?  Hes an admin.Not the movie writer. that how he  sees it and I already explained it wasnt the case Shin the science guy (talk) 22:32, March 10, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

I never said any of that. I'm just saying Neff has good sources and that A-Type was the animation error since Broly powered up to C-type, then goes LSSJ. Going back to A-Type doesn't make any sense. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:41, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

Really?  How are you not getting what i said. He didnt go C Type at ALL. thats not c type . the hairstyle is comepletly different .In the exact same frame  as   "C type" other charatcers hair is coloured differently as well. C type is the error not A type. he only went A type and Legendary super saiyan in the entire movie(unless you count the paragus flashback) A type is superr saiyan with the crown on it. C type is no crown on it. C type is his normal unsupressed super saiyan .You understand now?Shin the science guy (talk) 21:33, March 11, 2019 (UTC)Shin the science guy

Even so, 0551E80Y and FlatZone agreed with me on the talk page that it should still count and Neff said that A-Type was the error after his hair turned green. If you still can't except what the community chose on that talk page, take it up with them because this isn't getting anywhere right now. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:12, March 11, 2019 (UTC)

Ultra Instinct -Sign-

Why are you removing the info I put on the ultra instinct -sign- page regarding the universal conflict saga? I put quite a bit of effort into it, it's objective, it's specific and it's to the point. Someone else also came by before. He didn't feel the need ti remove basically my whole text! He just a made sensible edits. But you just remove it without any explanation, and going from your page this is a complaint you get a lot. You could at least have given feedback.

I will undo the edit once more. We can debate together what fits and what does not and come to a mutual understanding and then adjust the text as that, but I do not accept this disrespectful behaviour. —This unsigned comment was made by Turbof1 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Imma need a source, chief

I'm recently seeing the edition conflict that happened in the article of Dragon Ball Heroes and I also gotta agree with Rogeta. Super Dragon Ball Heroes Universe Mission 7 just came out in Japan 3 days ago and I haven't seen any official info or leaks regarding the next mission. The information is nowhere to be found, so I must ask you to bring a credible source for your claim before continuing undoing his edits. ~ Yon ~Want to join my army?Visit my talk page! 20:19, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

If your talking about the info with Goku Jr., I didn't list that BabyKratosxZeus did. I assumed he found a source for that, but I guess he didn't. Plus, this isn't the first time he did this. DragonEmeperor (talk) 22:38, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

Cmon DragonEmeperor

You’re trying to make it seem like this whole wiki is about you and your edits shouldn’t be disputed. We know that you’re a large contributor and know a lot about Dragon Ball but please stop changing things that were already established especially what you did in the Grand Minister page. If you’re doing rewording or fixing a mistake that’s fine but don’t remove some information that was already established. And please cease from edit warring over something like this, it doesn’t really make that much of a a difference to the page even if the old information is kept. or else we would have to get an admin involved. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:06, March 16, 2019 (UTC))

Can you please bring it to the Minister's talk page. I already left a message for you. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:09, March 16, 2019 (UTC)

Ban for Vandalism

Is it possible to ban this Yaronos user (even if temporarily) for his constant, and ridiculous might I add, edits and vandalisms on the Goku Black and Jiren articles? I mean, a small joke here and there it's cool, and sometimes entertaining, but this? That's stupid AF.

HygorBohmHubner (talk) 19:52, March 20, 2019 (UTC)

Me and Sosuagwu17 already reported him to 0551E80Y and listed the evidence. He'll be gone in no time. DragonEmeperor (talk) 19:56, March 20, 2019 (UTC)

Tail Slicer

calm down you don't have to attack me and bite my head off —This unsigned comment was made by Molly Baker (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I'm not. I'm just letting you why your edit was changed before you start losing it, that's all. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:34, March 24, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not angry I'm calm I'm just worried worried about my faimly  also which   vegeta did cell inherit his big bang attack from  wss it it future or present  because I rember all of cells donors coming from s future timeline   I know he used the attack brefily on androind 16 in his semi perfect form I just wasn't  sure if he saw the attack from androind 17s memory and learned  by mimicry or if he inherited the attack —This unsigned comment was made by Molly Baker (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Cell inherits their techniques but he used his version of Big Bang Attack on 16, Big Bang Crash. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:21, March 24, 2019 (UTC)


I hope you're happy, kid. You just made a user quit the wiki.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:30, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

I did not. Me and Sosuagwu17 just struggle to agree on certain things. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:52, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

It's time for a break

Well we've finally reached the breaking point, this is not because of something you've done specifically today but a result of the many issues we've had over time added up. I've now had a second person, Sosuagwu17, tell me how he's done with the site. Theres likely been others in addition to that considering all the problems that come up.

You make a ton of contributions, which in ways is a good things, you make a lot of little fixes and tweaks to pages most wouldn't want to waste their time with. When a characters name is changed, you'll go through the articles and change all the links and things like that. On the other hand all the negativity around this place seems to revolve around you, issues that are putting off other people from contributing and causing some to leave. You're too stifling, people can't make an edit without you jumping on it or undoing something. I know you have your reasons for doing it, I know you aren't doing it out of spite but it can't come at the cost of other people anymore.

So you've got to be banned for a while, I'm sure there will be a lot of things that will sneak through because of it but other users need a break to contribute without feeling like there's someone breathing down their neck. We can't let this Wiki appear to be the kind of place where one user gets to control everyone else's actions even if comes at the cost of having a few more errors and misinformation on here. I'm sorry but it has to be done.Bullza (talk) 02:59, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

You did the right thing, Bullza.Rogeta234 (talk) 03:07, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

I'd like to speak a little in DragonEmeperor's defense. While I definitely feel the break is needed so he can cool his head off I do not believe he's the only one at fault in some of these situations, quite a few users that demonize him are just as bad or in some cases worse and are quick to turn things into a fight rather than a discussion (I'm even a little guilty of that). Dragon just has significantly more "offences" due to being dilligent and constantly trying to edit and fix the wiki in his own way.

Were he to post on the talk page first, wait at least a couple hours or a day to ensure others get a chance to argue the case for their edit then I'm sure there would be no issues. I'm sure the admins are well aware of this stuff I just wanted to put some support behind their decision of holding off for this long in the hopes he would change, I think it was a calculated risk that just didn't happen to pay off. I know I'm just a lurker here for the most part but I've been paying attention to the saga of DragonEmeperor and just felt like throwing in my two cents as I don't think the positive impacts he's had here should be forgotten or disregarded.Tenevhrael (talk) 11:04, March 27, 2019 (UTC)


I’m truly sorry for your block. I never intended for it to go this route nor did I tell him to block you. You’re really not the main reason why I’m leaving. I’m leaving because I have other things on my mind that are really important such as school, home and job and I may not have time to be on this wiki to check up on things. Now that you’re going to be gone from this wiki for a while, I really don’t know how this wiki will turn out when you’re not there to check up on this wiki and watch over this wiki. I really tried to have Bullza change his mind to unblock you but he still said that he’s still giving you the block as he’s giving you enough chances. Please don’t take your block personally against me as I do feel we could have talk this through with one another and really come to a mutual understanding when cases like this happen. If anything i’m just as guilty and deserve the block for fighting and edit warring. If you’re reading this or read this after your block expires please know that I’m truly sorry it had to come to this. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 19:22, March 27, 2019 (UTC))

Come Back

Pls come back. It was solely my fault for your inactivity. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:06, June 27, 2019 (UTC))

It's been over a month since your block ended and you haven't come back. Pls do edit here when you have the chance or want to come back. You're still recognized as a member of this community and it will be sad for me if you don't come back. You really used to edit here quite often but after your block you haven't edited here for a while. It's not like you DragonEmeperor. Please come back and even if you decide you will no longer edit here, you will still be remembered by many users including myself as a great contributor despite the complaints. Despite our fights, disagreements and ups and downs, I still consider you a great editor to this wiki. Thanks for your great contributions to this wiki and how much time you put in here making this wiki great as best as you can. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:06, June 28, 2019 (UTC))

He broke the rules and had to pay the price. Rogeta234 (talk) 01:08, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Actually he didn’t because I was the one that instigated the edit warring between us and he was just following site rules. By reverting my edits on how it originally was before the dispute. So I was just as guilty. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:14, June 28, 2019 (UTC))

At least you have learned from your mistakes. Rogeta234 (talk) 01:24, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah I know learnt from that. But still. It's still sad for a user after a good number of years of contributions and especially having an edit count such as his not coming back after the block. I know it is never good for a user to undo edits without explanation but I feel he never did that out of bad blood but he was just being too overly protective and like Final Chidori said sometimes protecting something you love to the point where you don't let other do anything to it may seem like you coming out as a jerk and that is what happened with DragonEmeperor even when warned so many times from Bullza about the numerous complaints he has. I don't take DragonEmeperor as anyway of a bad guy but I do feel he should've at least communicated better with other users so most users in the community don't view him as a bad guy which he's not. I think if he decides to undo someone’s edit he should've regularly left an explanation in the edit summary or leave a user a message on why he undid their edit so he would've communicated with users a lot better and these complaints would’ve come. Because being an editor here, editors don’t explain every single edit they undo so I'm not going to expect DragonEmeperor to explain every single edit he undoes but he should at least explain most of them. (Sosuagwu17 (talk) 01:35, June 28, 2019 (UTC))

I would suggest you read what I wrote on Bullza's talk page in regards to a User's editing the way Dragon did. Sosuagwu. It's designed to help to understand a balance between being a good wiki editor and being a good user who participates in the community to help made th wiki a better place for all from group effort. People who have edited the way DragonEmeperor and before him Meshack edited, seems to lack that understanding and act on it and causes so many upset users who get turned away because they felt they had no way of participating here. It is why there was so many issues with this user. If he does come back but continues to behave the way he did in the past those troubles will start up again. 0551E80Y (talk) 02:38, June 28, 2019 (UTC)


Hey Dragon, I just saw that you messaged Bullza a few days ago informing him of your return. I just wanted to say that I’m glad to welcome you back here after its been about a year since you were last here and even if you don’t edit as much as you did before I’m so happy to learn about your latest status in the wiki. I hope things are going well while you are still taking break from here. Whenever you feel comfortable returning to the wiki you can always come back to edit as much or as little as you want to despite the ups and downs here. I’m glad to here from you here again and a while since I was promoted as an admin. Have a good day my friend.

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Welcome back, man. Mini Goku turns Super Saiyan.gif Sosuagwu17 Talk  Contributions  04:41,8/7/2020 Mini Vegeta turns Super Saiyan.gif

Don't touch to Vietnamese Dub page

Hello. You don't need to give a full name of character in that page, it really make the page is so ugly, messy, lengthy and distracting. I have deliberately set up it very short to save spaces, as well as make the page look nicer. So I hope you understand and don't edit it anymore! Thanks! Duy goby (talk) 18:26, October 19, 2020 (UTC)

Are you blind?

Hey I told you don't need to give a full name of characters in page Vietnamese dub. But you still keep doing it. Are you blind? Duy goby (talk) 13:53, October 23, 2020 (UTC)


Done, thanks for the heads up! La Grey Zuliana (talk) 02:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

SDBH manga

You asked -> Where did you read chapter 7 at?
Raw Manga (Japanese) : https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=SuperChronicles&set=a.1358187387892778
Summary (English) : https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/status/1379491508156440578

Monocool123 (talk) 19:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Inhabitants of Plant

This is the only official name we have for this racial group. Why did you revert something that's been this way for a long time? Meshack (talk) 02:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Its old name was still linked to alot of pages and they had to be fixed. DragonEmeperor (talk) 17:57, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Restoring the Assault Rain Redirect for Human Extinction Attack

I really think that Assault Rain should be restored as a Redirect for Human Extinction Attack as currently there are five official video game sources which use the name Assault Rain for Human Extinction Attack. However I thought I'd check if this is enough justification to warrent it being restored.RaphBlade7 (talk) 17:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)