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Blalafoon

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Banned From Chat
  • I live in USA
  • I was born on September 30
  • My occupation is Grocer
  • I am Male

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Hella!

Hai, hai.

Just letting you know, the part on your profile that says: "Challenges: None right now. :(" is outdated.

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Your chat ban

Actually ascii IS considered spam, as it floods the chat and thus serves the same purpose as spam to intervene with the conversation at hand. I would unban you, but your confrontational behavior about the whole situation is prompting me to keep you banned, but just shorten the ban. Technically, you ought to have already been banned, since I run by a two-kick-one-ban policy, but I was trying to be lenient with you. You can have the rest of today to think about why you should be respectful when dealing with others, as well as thinking about why you should moderate what you post. Next time, giive it a look over and think "Hm, will posting this get me in trouble?" before doing it. That is usually an effective tactic to prevent incidences like these.  Dark Seeker Kotsu   02:24, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

First of all, you had spammed by typing one word a line before then, then I kicked you twice for ascii. You shouldn't have even done it the second time, since I told you the first time not to do it. Had I not been lenient, you would have been banned after the second ascii for doing it anyways.

Second of all, we don't need to add ascii to the rules. Spam is any message that is overly repeated, long, or nonsensical, as well as anything that might flood chat. As it falls under spam, there is no need to add a rule exclusive to it. Ascii floods the chat because though the characters might make a picture, half of the time none of them even work and they are usually still way too large to be posted in chat.

You really have no excuse to justify the contradictory ascii that got you banned. I check every message before I input it in chat, no matter if I'm only saying "Yes" to a user about something and no matter how fast chat is going. I should also think that one might notice an overlarge and excessive use of characters in the text entry box. It's not as easy to overlook as a curse might be, it's actually very noticeable. It's not that I didn't have proper insight, it's just that you chose to break the "No spamming rule" on four separate occasions last night.

Thirdly, the "kills baby" thing has absolutely nothing to do with your disrespectful behavior. By disrespectful behavior, I'm referring to you calling me "ban-happy" even though I clearly gave you more chances to cease spamming than I should have, and just the message you left in response to me banning you was so overwhelmingly rude, despite not breaking any rules. Adding that you were disrespectful to me in the ban log is a footnote as to why you remained banned for a day instead of me removing the ban in its entirety, which I would have done if you weren't so rude about it happening in the first place.

"Confrontational" has nothing to do with lying, though it does make me suspicious of whether the ascii that got you banned was an accident or not. Most users I meet that will do something like that on accident don't come at me with an aura of confronting me, but they present themselves politely and I am apt to undo the ban because of that. Most of the users I know that intentionally broke rules and knew they were in the wrong came at me with the same callous attitude. Maybe you need to read over just how you sounded in your first message, you don't seem to understand just how rude you were about it, trying to accuse me of different things and calling me "ban-happy" and whatnot. Please learn to communicate with others in a more respectful manner. -- Dark Seeker Kotsu   20:11, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Endings

Do you have a source for this? Or the names of these magazines? Goku SS3Shakuran13Tapion with bladeThisDragonFistGokuHirudegarnMovie13endsKonatsian wizard with effectsNOW!SS3Rush 01:11, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Ban"""

Now allow me to say some things in defense for myself (which Tre hasn't allowed at all). My responses are in Bold.


"That is a total load of bull and you know it Geti. I banned you because you flat out disrespected me and called me a sucky admin. That wasn't aimed at flame, that was aimed at me."


the "sucky admin" part was directed at flamedude because he literally called me a jerk and that no one likes me, and that I should leave the wiki for the greater good of the wiki. When I denied and asked why I should listen to what I believe to be a sucky admin, I was banned.


"I REFUSE to be disrespected by a newcomer to this wiki who thinks he can be a mofoing *** whereever he pleases. You got what you deserve, and i understand that blala might say otherwise, and i don't care."


I have no idea how this has relevance whatever to what I am doing. Objectively, you guys can nerf me, and give legit reasons why. I have no idea how I am mofoing or whatever, because I was merely speaking like how I normally would, since, if you realize, I pose no REAL threat to the wiki. This, as again, is another completely subjective argument that would, objectively speaking, have nothing to do with why I am banned.


"You've been a pain in the a** ever since you joined this wiki. All you've done here is complain, whine, and think you were better then everyone else. Algebratic my a**. You're not a "destroyer of arguments" you're the person who makes them in the first place. You think that if you continue to whine and whine that you will get your way. That we will bend to your will and allow you to walk all over us.

News flash buddie, that's not how this wiki works"

The first sentence is subjective, the second sentence is just an excuse saying that giving evidence to support my viewpoint is "whining" and thinking I am better than everyone else. The third sentence has no relevance and is completely out of point. The fourth sentence is blatant criticism to a random chosen nickname I have given to myself, and is just him finding excuses to fault me. The last 2 sentences are basically an assertion that he believes I can somehow stomp over an Admin's decision (Logically Impossible). I do not try to walk all over you guys, merely try to explain my point.

"This wiki people that have ideas for a rp can speak out. For those that want to make a character a bad guy or a good guy to do it. For those that have suggestions on what to change on the wiki to go out and speak to the founder about it. But you think you're above that. Above those people. You think you can stand above us as if you're some kind of kai. That's not how it will work out."

I have never once asserted that I think that I am above that, nor have I shown this in any way. This is just a blatant subjective argument as to what he thinks I am doing. I will state it clear now, I am only WORKING in South City now, and I am in no way "Above those people", nor have I in any way told Tre that I thought I am above him. What I DO believe however, is that decisions made by admins regarding subjective things, like nerfing my character, is prone to arguing, he believes that I should treat his opinion as if it were law and NEVER go against it, which is against my principles of Free Speech. He even thinks that I should respect the opinion of Flamedude22 calling me and Ellen a "useless sack of organs". 

To me, this is a very flawed assessment and completely biased argument on his part, because he has misinterpreted what I stand for.

"I've held my tongue for almost too long to bear. I'm tired of all these new users trying to buff and OP their way to being one of the greats. To be a "legendary rper". That's not how this wiki runs. You can cheat your way all you want in video games and MOMPG or however you say it. But not here. Not on this wiki. If you can't respect that, you can leave. It's fine, most of the people here are annoyed with how you treat them and how you act anyway.  I'm speaking this out for those who are tired of all your complaing. Those that have had to deal with this ever since you stepped foot here. For flame, for gohan, for sakemi who's delt with you on UDBW. And for all the people who have talked to you over on lookout that just don't like the way you OP EVERYTHING"

This is another completely subjective argument which can be easily debunked. He forgets that you can nerf me, as can the other admins, using OBJECTIVE methods. For example, we had no problems with your balanced assessment and decided nerf, however me and Ellen have had something against Flamedude22's nerf, because he is completely biased and is removing everything. He thinks that we are cheating and that you miraculously have no power over us (which is not the case) and that somehow people not liking me is a valid reason why I should be permanently banned and prevented from interacting with others on the wiki. 

Now I will be going on to Flame's argument

"This has to end, we can't let Geti and his friends push us around and berate us and the other users. They have made this wikia a less pleasant place to be. Think how much more we could of gotten done, if they hadn't been holding us back with there incessant harassing. I honestly don't know if the wikia will be able to survive their continued battery. Who would want to be in a place where you have to fight these people every day. "

1) I do not berate them and "other users". If you noticed, by "other users" he is referring to himself, Tre and UG98, not really anyone else.

2) "made this wikia a less pleasant place to be". If you realized, my edits did not involve scolding people on message walls, only involving talking to you about unrighteous bans.

3) "Think how much more we could of gotten done, if they hadn't been holding us back with there incessant harassing". Banning me and me being unhappy with it because it had NOTHING to do with the rules is not "incessant harassing". Flamedude22 is just trying to act innocent over here.

3) "continued battery" I presume he's talking about Bantering, which, in all honesty, I do not believe to have any REAL effect on the continued functioning of the wiki. All their arguments stem from purely chat and Signature Attacks and NOT about other, objective things we have done.

4) "fight these people every day". Since the first day I came here, I did not fight, merely ask questions. I was quite until Flamedude decided to make enemies out of me, alongside some others who believe my Sigs are OP and thus bear some kind of grudge against me.

Anyways, regarding my previous block by Flamedude, here is my entire conversation with him on this wiki. In sequential order.

"If  you couldn't read the Lord of Smashes properly, here is what it actually does.

First it knocks you from whatever Hap you are to 1 HP. Then heals you for 25% HP INSTANTLY (No OHKO problem ANYMORE)

For several y turns, you heal 5y% HP per turn.

Decaun gets an increased hit chance from then as well.

Before you block me, I hope you can actually read HOW the ability was changed. In this case, your argument no longer applies at all, giving the enemy a rather significant advantage.

So could you unban me?Geti186 (talk) 22:12, September 18, 2013 (UTC)"


Next is his response.


"Droping some one down instantly to any level of health is not allowed. I repeatedly warned you to not redo my edits, now your being punished. I should of banned you for much longer than I did, consider yourself lucky to only be banned for to day. I won't be as lenient next time."

                                            [1][2]FlameDude22[3][4] 00:10, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

From that I can see his point, because his initial argument against me was that I cannot have even a 1% chance of killing someone.

Anyway here is my followup response.

"Last I checked, there was never any rule involving disrespect and the like. Unless you can cite a valid example from your very own Site rules page?

From what I can tell, you are just nerfing me because you are completely biased against me. Before saying I disrespect your opinion, please respect my opinion first. You have no right to shove your own opinion down my throat if I don't accept it.

I will be changing my ability once more, because, as you said, I can't damage the enemy that way (on chat you phrased it in a way which says that your problem was with the low hp and chance and the potential to OHKO). I reverted your edit because YOU YOURSELF did not specify what the problem is with MY ability.

Next time, before taking away the ability in unscrupulous ways, then banning me for editing MY ability, please inform me what exactly is wrong with it. Not everyone is like a sheep following the herd and there are bound to be disagreements, and I hope you will do so PROFESSIONALLY before attacking me with your personal bias.

Anyway, your ban on me was unjustified,  as there is NO SUCH RULE pertaining to your extremely subjective "disrespect"Geti186 (talk) 06:15, September 19, 2013 (UTC)"


Followed by his completely disrespectful response


"Who wrote that for you? Stop pretending like you know the rules better than me. If you reverse my edit again you will be banned for a week with out question, and I will not acknowkedge you when you beg/threaten for me to lift the ban. [5][6]FlameDude22[7][8] 13:09, September 19, 2013 (UTC)"


My response


"This was completely written by me, for your information.

There is no "Pretending to know the rules better". Why? The rules are perfectly stated in text on your very own wiki. My interpretation of the rule is determined solely by that, and I believe your judgement that I have broken the rules is an invalid one.

Also, I am not "reversing" your edit. I am adding an entirely new effects for that ability I wish to have. In that manner, I am NOT reversing your edit. Your problem with my ability was the instant reduction of HP to 1, this ability WON'T have it.

In case you couldn't notice, this is neither a beg, nor a threat to you, merely my own personal opinion, which your highly intelligent self seems to take as a threat to his/her superiority as an Admin.Geti186 (talk) 13:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC)"

His response

"The wikia is technically a dictatorship. We can do pretty much whatever we want and we don't have to explain ourselves to you or any user, for that matter. Have a nice day. [9][10]FlameDude22[11][12] 14:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC)"

My response to his completely messed up definition of what wikia is.

"From how you responded to me, it is quite clear that you cannot actually receive criticism and look at things in a logical and objective manner. If anything, the dictatorship is decided by Blalafoon, not you.

"Deciding" whether to remove an ability must have at least some form of consensus. If the ability is legitly OP "I can compare X ability with Y ability and this shows that X is too strong", the user cannot complain. It is apparent that your lack of explanation would only lead to problems (for example, me getting banned because I thought that I had followed YOUR guidelines (where I couldn't OHKO the enemy anymore). Apparently I was wrong and obviously, you once again did not address the problem directly.

Competent admin, hopefully you may clarify problems with me in the future, because discussion is the only way consensus can be reached. Hopefully your emotions won't get the better of your judgement.



Regardless, there was no "warning" to this ban, and you certainly didn't follow the rules decided upon. May I ask how you came to the decision to ban me? Since the edits I reverted were merely me trying to match up to your pre-set criteria.

How old are you, anyway? 13?



Also, you pretty much confirmed that you didn't bother reading through what I had said, courtesy of your misquotes. Are you dodging the topic?Geti186 (talk) 14:39, September 19, 2013 (UTC)"


And that pretty much ends the entire conversation here. As you can see Flamedude22 can't keep a calm mind and completely ignores the stated Site Rules when he bans people. He is also completely biased and not objective. I hope you can see my point, Blalafoon, in that I am the victim of this ENTIRE situation.Geti186 (talk) 06:21, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Blocked

Dear Blala, if you hadn't noticed, from the thread Blala, 

I am BLOCKED from your wiki as a whole by Tre.


Now I don't know what's on his mind, but could you please unblock me? I NEVER deliberately broke the rules and he is literally treating Wikia as if it were a dictatorship (which I believe to not be the case). I wish to continue RPing there but Tre is ruining my experience.Geti186 (talk) 09:40, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Stats

The stats issue, obviously is pre-nerf. The Alpha must have fed you false lies again, because the new stats post-nerf are nowhere near whatever calculations I ever did before. What's wrong with my own calculations? must it be for the whole world to see? the Sig page is open for everyone, you are free to do the Math. Those calculations before? Completely inapplicable post-nerf. I wonder why you're chiding me because of this.


Good of the wiki? I have only tried to be reasonable. I apologize for not being Western like you all, courtesy of my background. Anyway, if you check Tre's signature, he ha a 50% damage resistance, which makes him effectively have double the HP.


Anyway, I'm not going to let 1 month's of work go to waste, so all my belongings and money will now effectively be Ellen's (I presume Money for everything is refunded).


Thank you for your kind understanding. I shan't be bothered anymore unless I need to.Geti186 (talk) 03:05, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

DBZRP

You ban me for nothing you brainless boy.

Got people do worse than me like Sakemi (who bully Kameron esters for 1.4 million EXP), and you never ban him?

Got people like Gogeta Jr get their characters to level 50 so fast, you never ban him?

Got people like Zane got help from Prynce to EXP Farm, and you never ban him?


You seriously dunno how to use brain.


"manipulate the system, drive the community up a wall", can tell me how to manipulate system? Drive community up wall? They rage because they don't like my grammar, then you blame me for this?


Share my ways to other users? They got brain then they can fight properly. I only hint Kameron Esters because he really dunno how to fight. It's wrong to teach people how to fight like Natch? You biased founder?


"hack our game" - In your sweet dreams I got hack your game. You tell me how I hack can? I bet you can't even explain properly how. My stuff all take from Ellen and your people stuff, and now you call me OP for that?


Anyway, since I gone, I pass Ellen all my stuff and item.ReaperOfSeas (talk) 10:38, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

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