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my mistakes

I am fixing my mistakes on talk pages I am sorry about those thank you for pointing out that talk pages are for disscutions and I will try to help out more I am new at wikia so I am learningA saiyan warrior 18:09, January 6, 2011 (UTC)


Hello do you think dragon ball gt ruined the series? Neil 9444 03:13, January 7, 2011 (UTC)Neil9444 oh and can you make me a signature? Some with blue and black Neil 9444 03:13, January 7, 2011 (UTC)Neil9444

Nope, GT did not ruin the series, it was very similar to Dragon Ball for the first half, and almost as good as Dragon Ball Z in the second half. As for signatures, you can use my tutorial at the top of this page to make one. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:16, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Kaioken x50

Tell me how much sense this makes... It was Kaioken x 50 because a Super Saiyan multilplies a Saiyans power 50 TIMES Then a user suddenly comes along and puts x49. I Come along and CORRECT it and he reverts it again. I correct it again and all of a sudden everyone else is jumping in. I shouldn't be threaten with no nosense about a block because if you guys pay attention to the pages history you would see that it use to be Kaioken x50. I don't see how a simple user's ip address can simply com along, put wrong info on a page, and everyone suddenly agree with him. I mean 49 makes no sense I work with pre K Kids and even they can see that 49 is NOT equal with 50. Captain Kazi----- Talk

Please use that article's talk page, the decision is not up to me. Just post your opinion on the talk page, wait a week, and see what the issue is. Resorting to insults is very disrespectful and doesn't help anyone. In fact, it is likely to make others think much less of you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:12, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

? Resorting to Insults. Ha now that's Funny. I was actually telling the truth. Kaioken x50 has been on the page ever since I been on this site. Now someone changes it to Kaioken x49 and everyone suddenly thinks it is a goo idea. So I can put Goku uses Kaioken x19 against frieza right? After all Kaioken x20 just doesn't sound right to me. I already know you guys think less of me considering how many times I have edit here and they are reverted. Captain Kazi----- Talk

Seriously, stop insulting me. It's not allowed on the site. Also, use the article's talk page, not mine. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:12, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Seriously, I am not insulting you I am proving you guys wrong on the Kaioken thing and you guys do not want to hear it. It is not being insulting it is just plain wrong. Captain Kazi----- Talk

There is no reason for this: "I mean 49 makes no sense I work with pre K Kids and even they can see that 49 is NOT equal with 50." And I don't know who "you guys" are, because this is just my talk page, not the community's. Use the article talk page... -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:19, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well that is how I tell the truth. And the reason I came to you because you kept reverting it and threaten we with a block of some sort. After I reverted the 49 off the page from the user you kept stepping in. 3,000,000 x 50=150,000,000 3,000,000x49 =147,000,000. Right or Wrong? The Community doesn't have the problem with the 50 you do. Captain Kazi----- Talk

I am not the user who put 49 first, please use the article's talk page, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:27, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I know you aren't but you have a problem with 50, which is why I came to you. Captain Kazi----- Talk

I have a problem with edit warring, and the solution is I tell the users involved to use the article talk page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:42, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I shouldn't have to go to the article talk page if the Information is therefor incorrect. As a admin speaking to another admin I will tell you not all of our edits are 100% right. On my site I am the siter leader and I have made some edits that are wrong I mean if we are wrong we are wrong bottom line. Captain Kazi----- Talk

I don't know what site you are the leader of, but on this site we have strict policies regarding disagreements about facts. At this stage, the thing to do is to put your side on the talk page of the article. You will make no progress by convincing me either way. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:54, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

So let me get this straight. You want me to go on the talk page of the article of the magical Kaioken x 49 which straight up point blank wrong and wait a month for an answer? If that is the case let me explain to the people how Goku used Kaioken x37.5 against Meta Cooler. I shouldn't have to the Information is wrong. IDK why I need to go onto the talk page if the info is wrong. Captain Kazi----- Talk

You will make no progress by convincing me either way. Please use that article's talk page, the decision is not up to me. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:07, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Believe me I don't need to. Convincing a person he is wrong on a article page is not necessary. Hmm Kaioken x50= Super Saiyan. Disprove that, please, or I will have to report you for vandalism. Captain Kazi----- Talk

You will make no progress by convincing me either way. Please use that article's talk page, the decision is not up to me. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:07, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Believe me I don't need to. Convincing a person he is wrong on a article page is not necessary. Hmm Kaioken x50= Super Saiyan. Disprove that, please, or I will have to report you for vandalism. The decision obviously has to be up to you if you keeps on reverting my edits and putting the wrong edit. Captain Kazi----- Talk

No it is not up to me, I am simply reverting your edit warring until you do the proper thing, which is use the article talk page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 08:13, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Alternate Timeline

Best-case worst-case makes perfect sense. Worst-Case meaning no more z-fighters, best-case meaning no more villains. Haha I mean come on, I slammed you with facts that belong on that page, not the talk page. I hope everyone reads this.

  • Cell and the Androids no longer exist in that world. (confirmed fact)
  • Babidi never showed up in the first place, and even if he did show up later there would be no one powerful enough to resurrect majin buu. (this is the only speculation)
  • The Baby saga in dragon ball GT was focused on the black star dragon balls. No piccolo/Kami = no black star dragon balls, ergo no Baby on Earth. (um, duh?)
  • The Super 17 saga wouldn't have happened either because Gero and Myu needed two Android 17s to open up the portal. (um, duh?)
  • And the shadow dragon saga? again, no piccolo/kami = no dragon balls. (um, duh?)

That, my friend, is a best-case scenario. Or should I use another term other then "best-case worst-case" to make you happy?

The only reason I can think of you deleting my post is because you don't like being wrong. I proved you wrong over and over again on this post. At least at first you countered with facts, now your just like "that belongs somewhere else." Way to get butt hurt :p oh and can you reply to me in a personal message? I wanna know right away when you reply, and pm's alert me no matter what page I'm on.

Time is man made, so it's always 4:20 00:28, January 8, 2011 (UTC)Tokeupdude

I see what you are trying to say with "best-case worst-case", but the wording doesn't make sense, people don't talk like that. I don't know what "Haha I mean come on, I slammed you with facts that belong on that page, not the talk page. I hope everyone reads this" means, you might want to try and write a little more clearly. The villains stuff is all speculation, no one can say for sure what happened in the future. The real world has no Z fighters but is far from peaceful.
The talk page of an article is for formatting and general discussion about that particular article. Since the space given for an edit summary is limited, there was not enough room to discuss the matter, and you using my talk page proves that. Before making rash judgments, you would be better off doing a little research about the topic, in this case this site. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:41, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I dont care about my grammar on talk pages. And how is the "villain stuff" speculation? Its not and you know it. I will bullet them to make them more clear.

"...wording makes no sense." So you agree that what I'm saying is true. Since you seem to understand where I'm coming from, you could have used your obviously superior English skills to more properly state my information instead of deleting it altogether.

Time is man made, so it's always 4:20 01:20, January 8, 2011 (UTC)Tokeupdude

Don't put text in the middle of my comments, put it afterward.

After you explained it on this page, I agree with your assessment of the villains. Saying the wording does not make sense means just that, and nothing else. In fact, the idea behind it is also flawed, due to war, robbery, etc. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:29, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


why did you delete my edit on Obilu?

Who is this? If you sign your posts I can check what you're talking about (I make a lot of edits and I don't remember this). -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:21, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Something I wondered about

Hi. You know how, to turn Super Saiyan, you need to first have a emotional upheaval. What was Goten's emotional upheavel when he transformed? I mean, it's a possibility that the first time he transformed was when he was training with Chi-Chi, but getting hurt isn't that much of a emotional upheaval, is it? I'll be glad to hear your insight on this 02:44, January 8, 2011 (UTC)SSJAdraj

Oh, I have no idea, it's never shown. I would guess that either Gohan or Chi-Chi had him imagine someone close to him dying, or maybe he was just angry about never seeing his dad. Just my guesses though. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:55, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Man! I realy needed the help and if you need eneything ask me to im a pretty good expert on dragon ball,dragonballz,and dragon ball gt. mainly dragon ball.

Sweet, but don't forget to sign every post : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:59, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Camel Cigarettes?

I already posted this on the talk page for companies, but it seems like that page isn't visited that much so I'll ask you directly. In the episode where Porunga is summoned at Capsule Corp a building is shown that says "CAMEL" on it. The font that camel is written in is the same type of font that camel is written in on a pack of camel cigarettes. Since McDonald's is on the company page, can Camel Cigarettes go on the companies page also? Time is man made, so it's always 4:20 13:53, January 9, 2011 (UTC)Tokeupdude

Seems like a coincidence, so I'd say no, just the word CAMEL is not enough. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:11, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

A green M doesn't necessarily mean McDonald's either....isn't that a coincidence also? (By the way, if this appears above your text I can't help it, its under yours in the edit)Time is man made, so it's always 4:20 00:14, January 10, 2011 (UTC)Tokeupdude

That's so weird, lol, yah it was above but I moved it. You should try using the preview button before saving your edits. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:28, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Answer the question about the M though?Time is man made, so it's always 4:20 00:37, January 10, 2011 (UTC)Tokeupdude

I don't know about McDonald's then, I'd have to see a screen shot. If the proof is insufficient, that should probably be taken off. However, I do know for a fact that the real McDonald's is a sponsor of the Dragon Ball anime series, so that makes it likely that it is true. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:40, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Off topic, but my bad on the alternate timelines section. I thought you agreed that it was worth mentioning (at least thats what I got out of it) so I put it up. Won't happen again (I finally got my text to go under yours lol. Now I just gotta figure out how to make it look clean).Time is man made, so it's always 4:20 00:48, January 10, 2011 (UTC)Tokeupdude

Depending on your preferences, specifically the way you view text when editing, you can use colons before paragraphs to effectively add tabs. This helps to distinguish when the last person is done talking and you start. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:54, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Problem solved! I was editing in WYSIWYG mode. When I switch to source mode its way easier. I still have a lot to learn though. Time is man made, so it's always 4:20 01:41, January 10, 2011 (UTC)Tokeupdude


hey i think we should add a heroes category for goku gohan piccolo etc... mainly because many new dbz fans dont no who the heroes of dbz are also i think we should add a anti hero category 3855cannonplace 19:05, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Both of those categories have been suggested but are not needed. There Z fighter category already exists for the primary defenders of Earth in Dragon Ball Z. Please do not create those categories. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:25, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! :D

Thanks for "welcome". I'll try do revert vandalism, but I can't create/edit articles, because my english is very bad Gogeta SSJ5 23:41, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it was an accident

Yeah, it was an accident. I was trying to get the template for it, but I accidently deleted it. But I Made sure I put it back. Sorry. AscendedDreamer 17:49, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, no problem then. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:44, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

wiki to encyclopedia?

hey can you please tell me how or do this for me? i want my talk and edits and sigs onto encyclopedia but idk how. thanks Images-1 6.jpegITSImages-2.jpegOVERImages 7.jpeg9000!Ezio-Auditore-de-Firenze--Assassins-Creed-2-psd27127.png 23:43, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Just make an account there and then create the pages from here over there and copy over the old info. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:45, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
oh ok thanks i wasnt sure im dumb lol. Images-1 6.jpegITSImages-2.jpegOVERImages 7.jpeg9000!Ezio-Auditore-de-Firenze--Assassins-Creed-2-psd27127.png 23:49, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Mystic Gohan

How is Gohan able to turn Super Saiyan in GT, when he was unable to do so after having his potential unlocked by the Old Kai? /TheSaiyanPrince--Vegeta\

I'll answer this after you sign your post. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:33, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

How do I sign this post? What's the significance of doing that?

Instructions for how to sign posts, and the reasoning behind doing so, can be found here. I hope I don't seem obnoxious by not answering yet but this is a big pet peeve of mine, and it's an easy thing to do. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:33, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Gogeta SSJ5

Hi, 10x Kamehameha, I have a simple question. Where I can upload pictures? Gogeta SSJ5 18:37, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Press the upload photo button on the left of the screen. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:33, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Why where the List of characters Killed Bu Gohan and Trunks Deleated

it really doesent make sense because their was a list for goku and vegeta.(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13344/278005-15/066-Vegetto_super.jpg 20:37, January 15, 2011 (UTC))

Please sign your posts. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:18, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Mystic Gohan-2

it's me once more....So, How is Gohan become a Super Saiyan after having his full potential unlocked? When he originally tried to turn Super Saiyan after the ritual, it failed. But he does so in the GT series...HOW??

TheSaiyanPrince--Vegeta 03:30, January 13, 2011 (UTC)TheSaiyanPrince--Vegeta Time= 22:30

He never loses the ability to turn Super Saiyan, here's what actually happens: Old Kai tells Gohan to power up to his new ("Ultimate") form by doing "that Super Saiyan thing." All this means is that Gohan manipulates his power in a similar fashion when transforming this time to what he does when he goes Super Saiyan. Based on the series, there is no reason to think that he ever lost any of his existing transformations, he simply gained a new one. I hope this helps! -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:00, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I almost understand how it works. So I'm assuming that because Gohan cannot attain the Super Saiyan 3 form, he simply powered up more than a Super Saiyan 2 (because it seems his Ultimate Form is stronger than the Super Saiyan 2 form.) Or is it that his Ultimate form is separate branch of power up?
TheSaiyanPrince--Vegeta 21:12, January 13, 2011 (UTC)


I added some pictures on some articles and you removed them, I am wondering why you have taken them off so I may not repeat the same mistake again.

Sincersly yours,

AKidNamedTristan 05:09, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I did this for various reasons, as presented in my edit summaries. As a side note, edit summaries are required. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:13, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty then :) i will check that out thank you for your time.
AKidNamedTristan 21:56, January 13, 2011 (UTC)


What up with u editing Krillin back to saying he didn't meet 18 in Trunks time 18 DID say she was mad at 17 for killing"that guy she thought was cute" as well as runing everything she likes after he asked her the reasons why she was mad at him.

Pleas sign your posts. Also, you added that they had met before, when it was clearly implied that they had not. The other bit you added was extraneous, and had nothing to do with Krillin. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:13, January 14, 2011 (UTC)


Which is your favorite DBZ movie?

Kuririnmaster22 13:03, January 14, 2011 (UTC)kuririnmaster22Kuririnmaster22 13:03, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Umm the Broly movies are pretty cool. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:17, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

#17 Page

Someone, I don't know who, keeps vandalizing #17's page, and I think it should be brought to someone's attention. I keep trying to edit the mistakes they make, but they remove my edits. Under "Personality", it should say "Initially a reckless anarchist, 17 later reveals himself to be more than a rebel without a cause" in order to be accurate, but someone keeps adding "little" before more. This conflicts with his entire bio if it reads "little more than a rebel without a cause", implying #17 does little to contribute to the Z Fighters. Clearly this is incorrect, because #17 joins forces with PIccolo to fight Cell, and he also donates energy to Goku's spirit bomb.

Also, this person removes the "Alliance with Piccolo" heading. This should be included because #17's alliance with Piccolo is very crucial, not only in the battle against Cell, but also to assert #17 as a non villain. This makes #17 the first of the three androids to join forces with the Z Fighters, which should also be mentioned in his Bio.

I would really appreciate it if you could do something to prevent this person from further vandalizing the #17 page. Thanks. --Shadowsage 17:54, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

17 is indeed little more than a rebel without a cause. His only motive ever shown is survival and having fun. His "alliance" is merely an attempt at survival, so you should leave the page as is. Additionally, your contributions page says that you added something different than what you say you added. Finally, use the page history to see who did what edits. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:45, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thank You! 'Till We Meet Again!

File:Kid goten and kid trunks super sayian.jpg

Lets Talk Really Soon! Kay!

Dear 10X Kamehameha I Wanted To Thank You For Sending Me A Message In Case I Needed Help I Am I Huge DB, DBZ, DB , And DBGT fan! I Hope We Can Be Friends. Like Goku Would Say: Till We Meet Again! See Ya!! Dragonball expert 02:46, January 22, 2011 (UTC)Dragonball Expert

Reverted Edit

Hey, I've seen you revert my edit. May I ask why? This is a canon wiki, not a fanon wiki. Conjecture needs to stay out of articles; so saying that those three saiyans are "generals" is no more true than saying krillin is a saiyan. I realize you are prolly an admin, and a very active user, but things like this are why the wiki is such a low quality site, and why we at fanon wiki do not promote this place. Of course, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this matter, thanks! -KidVegeta

It can be assumed that the familiars of King Vegeta are high ranking military officers, based on other aspects of the Saiyan military that have been shown. What you said about Krillin is just wrong, I don't know where you heard it. If you got it from the fanon site, it must have been made up by a user. Also, I think you may have mixed up those quality assessments, as, according to google, this is the most popular Dragon Ball site in the world. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 08:11, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. You didn't seem to understand basically anything that I said. Arguing about how "popular" this site is, is neither here nor there. But I can try again. While it's true that you can say that these saiyans are "super elites", based on explained culture, it's a stretch to say they are generals. We don't have very much info onto what the saiyan military structure is, and to give out "fanon" ranks like that is just a poor show of quality. This is a fact based wiki after all. I think it should be changed from "generals" to super elites, but you'll probably revert my edit there, too. Anyway, I'd like to hear your continued thoughts, of course. Thanks. -KidVegeta

It says (likely generals), and this is perfect. The parentheses indicate that the passage can be read without the statement, and the word "likely" indicates that while not known for sure, there is a very high probability, based on the series, that it is the case. "Fanon" is a term meaning something that comes from a fan-written piece of fiction, which obviously does not fit this case. "Super Elite" is something that you made up, and is not a military rank, so it should not be written anywhere. Also, popularity is an adequate measure, since people going to the site multiple times indicates that they have not found a better site and switched to going there. It is also objective, whereas rude, unfounded claims about "low quality" are not. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 16:47, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Warning

Hey, thanks for the warning. But if you don't mind, I'd like to talk over this with another admin. I hope you understand. Thanks. -KidVegeta

You can discuss most anything with anyone, I don't mind. Just remember the site rules, including not to personally attack anyone here. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:30, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I was wondering why in the Arcosian article is says that "it has been suggested that the Arcosians are actually Frieza's race" but I only see one similarity of the two races and it is that they are all small in size like Frieza's race but the only reason this might be true other than the height simalarity is that the Arcosians bodies are hidden under their cloaks so we don't know if they look like Frieza's race or not. My question is that is this a statement from an offical website or in a book, or is it just something many people thought was true and was then posted? Also if this is a statement from an ofifical website or book why is there not a reference to it?

Friezapic.jpgIceMoonCloudFrieza1stform.gifFriezaRobotNV.png 08:30, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Seems like speculation to me. There's a lot more validity to the suggestion that Frieza's family is a line of mutant Meatians, given the striking resemblance. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 09:25, January 30, 2011 (UTC)
Yes there is but that also cannot be confirmed but now I have another question, should the reference to the Arcosians and Frieza's race similarity be removed, since on the Meatian page there is no reference to the similarities of the Meatians and Frieza's Race or the point that it is probably speculation? By the way if you haven't noticed my sig doesn't link to my user page, I followed your instructions... Could you help me? Friezapic.jpgIceMoonCloudFrieza1stform.gif FriezaRobotNV.png 09:44, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it is noted on the Meatian page, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. As for your sig, there are several issues with it, why don't you try it first without the images so that you can work out the kinks first. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:53, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why did u change the Jeice edit back?

I noticed u changed my Jeice edit back from appears as a member of King Cold's crew to appers to be a member? Are u saying he might not be a member and King Cold just recruited him for the mission? A member's of Cold's version of the Ginyu Force perhaps as he could be related to Jeice or could he be part of King Cold's elite? What do you mean by appears to be? Super Saiyan 09

Who wrote this? You need to sign your posts. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:16, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Is that how u do it? Not exactly sure how? Anyway what up with the Jeice edit? Super Saiyan 09

That's fine. The Jeice edit was reverted because speculation is not allowed, we know next to nothing about that character. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:54, January 31, 2011 (UTC)


Why is everyone deleting my edits to Kamehameha and Masenko!? -- Goldenguy511

Because they are speculation. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:12, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Starting a petition.

Hey. I'm new and am using a cellphone to view this page lol but I was wondering if you read my subject in the forums titles "my raging blast 3 ideas" or something to that extent. I'm trying to start a petition and need help and was wondering if you knew how to help me out. I also eventually would need someone who can read spike.game.co.uk 's website and guide me thru it. If you can help at all and this is within your power please i'd appreciate if you would do so. Thanks for everything!

How you do this name part???

~~ tht one n only ~~

Please be more specific, I don't know what you're asking. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:13, January 31, 2011 (UTC)


Why did u delete my post? everything I posted was 100% accurate, using examples straight from the manga. Ur wiki is wrong about many things found in fpssj. first of all, ur wiki says gohan was ssj2 against dabura and buu without any proof whatsoever. Second, it again claims Broly fought goku and gohan in fpssj. There is no proof to this, it is speculation, why does it deserve to be posted more than my counter arguments found straight in the movie? Third AND MOST IMPORTANT Goku defeated Yakon by turning ssj2, not fpssj, it's found staight in the manga. I'm trying to correct obvious lies and biases found in your article. Like how it appears to say cell is equal with goku, whereas im simply adding that cell wasn't actually trying, and that he outclassed Gohan because he raised his speed between the two fights, found directly in the manga

I believe you will find the answer to why I reverted your edit if you read the rules, standards, and manual of style. Additionally, since this is the English Dragon Ball Wiki, we use the far more popular English media, the anime, as our primary source, in order to avoid confusion. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:41, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


also, why are we not allowed to edit the Broly page? ALOT of the information found is speculation, for example that goku punched and reopened his stab wound, when he was actually stabbed in the chest not abdomen it wasn't there, also that his planet blowing ki blast was doable by any dbz character, so that should be thrown out, also that Goku put all his power into one punch, that's speculation, he clearly dodged and overpowered Broly. Alsohis power never ceasing to rise and nothing costing himm any ki in lssj form? also speculation. Why do u allow these posts but not mine, when my fpssj posts r all facts based on the manga?

Everyone is allowed to edit the Broly page, perhaps you misread something. See my above response for details. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:43, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


1.) in the english media they say nothing about what form goku was in when he fought Yakon, but vegeta still realizes that Goku is stronger after he sees how strong he is vs Yakon. Therefore, it's still assumed that Goku was a ssj2. So why does the wiki say he was a fpssj?

2.) the wiki says Gohan did worse than Goku vs Cell because of Gohan's inclination not to fight,or his gentle nature, however this was the cause, not the reason. Cell wants amusement, he liked fighting Goku because he was fun to fight, he was unable to catch Gohan until he increased his speed, making him stronger than he was against Goku. this is in the english media. I also stated he wasn't trying against Goku, as can see from master roshi saying he's still fresh, and his later fpcell form. This is also straight from the media. the article seems to suggest that if gohan had attacked cell, his fp form at it's fullest would defeat him.

3.) Your article outrights says Broly beat Goku and Gohan in fpssj form. This is not a fact, it's simply widely supported speculation, as many ppl feel that it likely happened in the 10 days of waiting for Cell. However, there's plenty of reasonable doubt about this known to anyone who's a big fan of dbz. 1. they r said to be taking a break from fighting the androids, not cell, and this is an alternate reality movie that isn't supposed to fit anywhere, like turles, cooler, etc., Trunks is less muscular and is wearing his android saga capsule corp clothes, Gohan looks much younger than in cell saga and is wearing his android saga clothes as well, Gohan and Goku should be always ssj if this is b4 cell to train their fpssj forms, yet they clearly rn't in the film, Piccolo seems to be around ssj fighting strength, which he was only at in the andriod saga, this is all reasonable doubt that has just as much proof behind it as man of the ideas found in Broly, so I don't see why they got erased. Also, in Broly the edit button isn't there, it said read only, unless I was looking in the wrong place

The forms can be clearly seen in the anime, read our pages on the various forms for details. Your second question is not worded clearly enoughfor me to interpret. Also, no speculation is allowed, such as alternate reality theory. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:01, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

yep, locked out

tried to edit Broly. said I couldn't, it's been locked out to prevent editting. am I doing something wrong? is there some other file I can actually edit?

Can you please sign your posts? Reading the information at the top of this page will actually show you how and answer your question. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:00, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


why are you deleting my articals i am one of the biggest dbz fans and want to tell people about it

Who is this? Please sign your posts. If I deleted your article, it was probably fan-art. This is the official db wiki, the fanon one is here. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 18:30, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


I Just thought that the Perfect Weapon quote was a little on the cheesy side, and Cell could do better. I think the quote I posted defines him as the type of unique villan he is, not just a cliche, cocky evil guy statement.

What about I just not put the Tournament mention at the end and just have this, "There is no secret purpose...I simply want to get as much out of this planet as I can...before I destroy it!" It shows how Cell just want's a challenge for the lulz, at the selfish cost of an entire planets population, I think that's pretty epic. What do you think?

Please sign your posts. The perfect weapon may seem cliche at first, but the context is an origin 20 years back, and it defines the character very well. However, if you really dislike it, feel free to bring up the issue of changing the quote on the Cell talk page, where the community will be able to discuss it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:50, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


Hey so I noticed some mistakes as I've been watching the series in Japanese. In one of the Dragonball episodes with Piccolo Jr. he bites into a fish. Aren't Nameks only supposed to drink water? Piano also states in Japanese that Piccolo Daimao can eat and lists food for the cooks to make (not sure if you want to count that one). When Yamucha, Ten, and Chaozu are wished back from in the Freeza saga they are on Kaio's planet but they automatically appear on Earth when they are wished back. Son Goku had to run back down the Serpentine Road and Piccolo had to be wished to planet Namek. One more is Piccolo ages quite quickly before the Tenkaichi Tournament in which he faces Goku (full grown by age five). Dende seems to age at a regular rate i.e. still being quite young after three years. And appearing to be a teenager during Boo's Saga. These are just some I've noticed I'm not sure if you'll accept them. Sgt. Frog 23:30, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

It is stated that they can survive on only water, but they are seen eating, so it's probably just a fun thing for them. When the Z fighters are wished back, it is actually by a different dragon, which explains the different result. Piccolo was a spawn of King Piccolo, who consistently spawned ready-to-fight monsters, so he likely engineered Piccolo to age quickly. In contrast, the peaceful Namekians of Namek desired normal lives. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:48, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that answers all but one of them. You said that the Z fighters are wished back by a different dragon. Then why was Piccolo still on Kaio's planet when he was wished back by the same dragon? Son Gohan and Kuririn had to have him wished to Planet Namek. Kuririn being wished back makes sense because they wished him to the check in station for Earth. The others were still with Kaio. Sgt. Frog 08:22, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

That's actually a new question : ) Same thing though, that's a different dragon than either Goku getting wished back after Raditz or the gang getting wished back after the Frieza conflict. I hope this answers your question. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 08:39, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry...what? It's not a new question. I'm trying to make a point. This is an inconsistency. The point I'm trying to make is that Yamucha, Ten, Chaozu, AND Piccolo are all wished back by the SAME dragon. Piccolo wasn't transported to Earth or even Namek. He was WISHED there. Yamucha wasn't wished back to Earth however Kuririn was (in a manner of speaking he was wished to the check in station) but Yamucha just randomly falls from the sky. Then Ten and Chaozu also randomly appear. The only reasonable explanation for why this happens is because their bodies were still on Earth while Goku's was whisked away by Kami. Even if that was the case shouldn't they appear in their deceased bodies which if I remember correctly were in Hoi-Poi Capsules? I know you're going to try and shoot me down for this saying some nonsensical stuff about the dragons and I realized I really don't care. I have better things to do than sit around and argue about crap like this. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as a jerk, I really am. However, like I said I'm not going to argue about this. Arguing with DBZ "fans" is like arguing with a group of ten year old kids. It seems that no one can have any opinions other than what everyone else agrees with. If I say the Majin Boo saga is the worst thing to happen to the Dragon Ball universe and that it's even worse than GT. I'm going to have the members of this wiki chasing me with torches and pitchforks. The cool thing is the real DB fans aren't on this wiki they're out in the world living actual lives. Thus, why I abandoned this wiki some time ago. I just realized a couple things that weren't on the list so I wanted to bring them up to you only to know they would be shot down. So, with this I depart. Sgt. Frog 20:56, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, you could be a little more polite when discussing a tv show. Personal attacks because I like an extremely popular anime? And why is "fan" in quotes, does this mean that I am just pretending to like the show and that my year+ editing the site was a facade to fool some wiley internet foe? Seems a little strange to me...

In any case, it actually was a new question. At first, you said, "When Yamucha, Ten, and Chaozu are wished back from in the Freeza saga they are on Kaio's planet but they automatically appear on Earth when they are wished back. Son Goku had to run back down the Serpentine Road and Piccolo had to be wished to planet Namek." To this, I explained that the characters had been wished back by different dragon, who presumably had different rules. Then, you asked a different question, about Piccolo instead of the other characters, which was, "Okay, that answers all but one of them. You said that the Z fighters are wished back by a different dragon. Then why was Piccolo still on Kaio's planet when he was wished back by the same dragon?" I hope you see that I answered your first question as fully as possible given what you had said, and did not intend to omit anything.

Having hopefully resolved that, let me more fully explain my answer. Goku was revived by Kami's Shenron. Piccolo was revived by Guru's Porunga. Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu were revived by Moori's Porunga. Now recall when Dende took over the post as guardian of Earth. He shows that literally anything about the wishing rules can be changes by the new guardian, and very easily, albeit so long as a certain balance is maintained. Thus, we are forced to believe that Moori did so when he revived Porunga (probably needing to make a new model from scratch anyway). -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:22, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Great Ape Edit

If u see the intro (it's only the Japanese one I think) the Great Ape's fur is purple but u edited that back why? Super Saiyan 09

Blog Issue

I posted a few blogs yesterday and it isn't letting see me all the comments on them for example we have What if Raditz raised Gohan evil? but it's only let's me 2 comments on it when there are 5 and keeps telling me the webpahge has expired? Can u explain what's going on? Super Saiyan 09

Forget that post

The blog issue is over however I want to report an inappropiate page labeled "Your Mom's Vagina" It's on Recent Wiki Activity Super Saiyan 09

Please provide a link. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:18, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
Never mind, I got it, it was a category. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 08:42, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Purple Great Ape

Now that the inappropiate page is dealt with why did u change the edit about his fur being purple in what I think is the Japanese intro Super Saiyan 09

Because it sounds dubious and you did not provide any proof. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:51, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's against the rules to post videos so how can I? Type Dragon Ball Japanese intro Youtube and you can clearly see a purple Great Ape Super Saiyan 09

You would need an image. However, it is almost certainly just the lighting, which would make the whole thing not matter. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 18:13, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

I just watched the English, Japanese, and French?( I think) and he is purple in all three. Type Dragon Ball intro into YT and see for yourself unless u already have

Please sign every post. Also, you don't need to convince me, but rather to properly reference a source. Also, if it's lighting it doesn't matter. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:22, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot because posted this in a rush. You saw the purple ape in question? I'm done so once you reply this discussion is closed Super Saiyan 09

I did not look for the video you are thinking of. If you want to make an edit, you need to do the research yourself, I am unfortunately rather busy. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:11, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
The Great Ape is Navy Blue. It is Pilaf Castle's borken roof in front of the ape that is purple. Jeangabin666 21:52, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm Back!!

Hey there 10X, how is everything going? I'm back from what was a MUCH longer than expected absence. I'd love to catch up with everything that has happened here and on the Encyclopedia. I'll leave this same message there, just in case you check one over the other now. Let me know what is going on, any new projects I can help with, or anything else, otherwise I'll just get back to doing things the way I used to and pick up the projects I was working on where I left off. Thanks man! GTGohanBlue.jpgGroup6blue.gif400 1203477316 wwwtengoverguenzablogspotcom-luis-v-blue-goku.jpg 18:53, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back dbzgtgoku, when you were absend the wiki pretty much died. i'm just being honest. 90% of the users have left. anyway let's hope we can still make something out of it, welcome back. —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Welcome back! Lol, well I wouldn't say died, but most of the users have indeed moved to the Encyclopedia. The majority of the work here recently has just been deleting vandalism and having long, tiresome conversations with new users who are not aware of the policies, format, etc. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:48, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Galaxy Quadrants?

I couldn't help but notice that only South Galaxy has a page of it's own. While I suppose East and West galaxy wouldn't maybe warrant their own pages... I would think that North Galaxy certainly would as, I assume, Namek, New Namek, Vegeta, and Earth are all part of that part of the north galaxy.

There anything that can be done about this?- Joegt123 04:53, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, why don't you start the page up with as much relevant info as you can using the Manual of Style, and then others editors will help you out. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 09:51, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
Alright, North Galaxy is created. The Manual of Style kinda confused me though, so I just copied what was in South Galaxy and suited the details.- Joegt123 16:46, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hey no worries, the article looks good, nice job. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:45, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


So I editted the Broly page. These r how I changed it.

I changed the whole everyone gives goku their energy, which he releases in one punch that reopens the stab wound to describing how goku catches broly's punch and emits the powerful ki after being empowered by his friends, Broly briefly charging up, then i said as the planet begins to fall apart beneath them, they charge each other. Broly's attack misses it's target, while Goku delivers a powerful blow to his abdomen. Broly's signature green energy leaks out of the point of impact, his skin appears to crack and emit green light. Broly cries out in agony and then explodes, seemingly defeating him.

This is exactly what happens in the movie. I keep posting it, and some guy keeps taking it down, without any facts to back him up. the stab wound theory is opinion, not proven, not fact, therefore what actually happened should be listed instead.

I also erased that he has no ki consumption because it's never said or even implied. I put that his power rises on multiple occasions while in the lssj form, but whether it's a trait of the form or whether it's Broly simply increasing his power level is up to debate. Once again, I replaced opinion with fact, while maintaining the original message. Now, y exactly does the original message deserve to remain more than the actual facts found in the film? If they don't, is there something that can be done to stop this one guy from dictating the page with opinion and not fact?

your last message was by Yoyepo Yoyepo 13:28, February 5, 2011 (UTC) Yoyepo February 5,2011

I can't tell what you're trying to say in the first part of this message, you will have to be more clear. First you seem to say that you added the stab wound part, then you seem to say that you removed it. His power level is stated to be constantly increasing multiple times, including in guides. That is supposed to explain why he just gets stronger and stronger, even when he's not training. In terms of the power increase, it's stated that it's always happening, never that it only happens while he's in a certain form. I know you are calling it a fact, but you haven't stated the evidence needed to validate such a claim. You do this quite a bit while providing your reasoning for edits, and it seems to be frustrating to other users.
Also, I removed the word "annoying" from your message, because you shouldn't be calling other users names. I don't think any regular users on this site are simply doing things to be annoying, we are trying our bests to make the site even better. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:53, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

ostrich ray gun

I can't tell the difference between fpssj and ssj2.—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Hey, 10x. You wanna deal with this guy? He's been plastering this all over articles. I've undone three changes in the past hour or so. Joegt123 22:43, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
Make that over a dozen. Joegt123 23:23, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, any help would be appreciated, the same user keeps making new accounts to dishonestly circumvent his brief block, which gets extended each time. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:31, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Saiyan 09

U seem to misunderstand my edit. The edit was that he should NOT have mistaken Gohan for Goku as he already encountered Adult Goku during the Piccolo Jr. Saga. The biggest explaination for this is that he panicked and thought it was Goku and temporarily forgot their encounter at the World Martial Tournament. It's either that or an inconsistency.

I'm refering to Mercenary Tao Super Saiyan 09

Oh I know, that was the part that I meant should just be in the body of the article. It's not an inconsistency because he was practically blow up and we can assume by the metal implants that he suffered head trauma. However, it is interesting and might be mentioned earlier. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:22, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

BreakingJesus 57

Not all of us are yoyepo. He's been telling us on Youtube what nonsense you've been spreading on this site. He's told us all about the whole light blond hair thing, and the pictures he's uploaded on youtube show Vegeta, trunks, Goku, and even Gohan at ssj2 against the cell juniors all had the light blond hair. Even Goku had the light blond hair against frieza for probably over half the fight. and the manga clearly shows that goku went ssj2 against Yakon. The manga is the most cannon source. You can't simply disreguard it and say he was fpssj, when it was never stated in either the manga or anime

-BreakingJesus 57

Did he also tell tell you about his edit warring, ignoring of talk pages, refusal to follow or read our Manual of Style (the instructions users must read before editing), or insulting of other users with inappropriate language on an all ages site? His block has nothing to do with the hair color issue we were discussing, it is only because he wasn't following the rules after being warned 3 or 4 times. Afterward, he started writing personal insults about me, not on my talk page, but in the text of articles. Please read over his talk page, and you'll see what I mean. Thanks and please examine the situation for yourself rather than taking anyone's word for it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:05, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Help

AFAIK, only the staff have access to account IP addresses on Wikia. However the prevent-account-creation function should prevent accounts from being created from the same IP address. Note that this can be circumvented either by using a proxy, or if the user has a dynamically assigned IP address (which is probably the case for most internet users) and the user reconnects to get a different IP address. (In other words, it might not be due to a technical failure to block the IP address that he keeps causing mischief.) -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 05:24, February 7, 2011 (UTC)


I looked over his talk page. He doesn't have any writing on it at all. Seems kind of odd to me. and when I asked him about it, he said that 1.) on the fpssj talk page, u weren't checking out his proof, u were disreguarding it w/o providing any examples that proved him wrong. 2.) he says he went to his page, and it said he was unable to edit it because of the ban, so he twice created accounts to ask you how to appeal and show u the fpssj page was wrong, and u extended his ban. He specifically asked me to mention that you called him dishonest for creating another account, even though he said he used the same yoyepo name specifically so you'd know it was him, and that he did it to tell you he didn't know how to appeal. 3.) he says you're missing the point that he presented you with tons of evidence, and you wouldn't update the page, leaving it inaccurate.

He also, in not quite as friendly language, said he doesn't care about his account and just wants the page fixed so he can get back to making amvs. As a huge dbz fan myself, I know he's right about the Yakon fight. Vegeta actually says goku went ssj2 in the manga. and if u watch the cell games, all the super saiyan forms there have the"signature fpssj whitish hair" while they rn't fighting. To be honest, it's kind of annoying to find this info on this site to me too. it doesn't make sense that the page hasn't been corrected yet. 06:54, February 7, 2011 (UTC) BreakingJesus57

You make some good points, and I appreciate you reading some of the conversations about what's going on. If you check out the talk page we were discussing, you'll see that we had only exchanged 3 or 4 messages when he changed the article to the way he wanted it again. By site policy, everyone needs to wait until there is a consensus, even if it's just a majority vote. Yoyepo quickly became frustrated at the 3 of us who disagreed, and decided to try and change all of the articles to reflect his opinion. This was before he had posted any images as evidence. As for the talk page appeal, you can see by comparing his block log to his proxy account's block log that he can in fact edit his talk page. His original account block does not stipulate "cannot edit own talk page", while the other one does. He has always been able to edit his own talk page, and since I wrote it on his talk page, he knows this, and is simply lying when he says he hasn't been told. In fact, when you are on the site and a message has been left on your talk page, a bright orange bar appears to let you know there is one waiting for you. You probably saw this when you got the automated message thanking you for editing the site. I hope this discussion has helped to clear some things up, and that maybe you can pass things along. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 10:50, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

well, I checked out the talk page. I didn't find the three ppl u said were arguing against him. Also, I saw that u argued with the daizenshuu. These, to my knowledge, were not written by Toriyama himself, whereas the actual manga is. and in the manga, these are said

1.) by trunks after time chamber b4 semi cell fight - Vegeta finally surpassed ssj. But it wasn't until now that he became proficient using it.

This implies that he has developed a form that is a step above ssj, hence y ascended ssj is another form with very clear physical differences.

2.) Goku in the time chamber says that ussj is too slow, and that a regular ssj has a better strength speed balance. He says they will stay at ssj at all time until it constitutes their base state.

3.) when Vegeta sees them, he thinks "wierd.... they.... are they still just super saiyans? No... there's something more... Vegeta, like Goku, recognized ussj's weakness immediately, hence him not using the form against cell. Yet when he saw them walk out in fpssj form, it took him time to realize it was different than normal ssj. If they had a clear difference in the color of their hair, I doubt Vegeta would have had to think whether or not they were normal ssj. It's far more likely what he thought was wierd was that they were normal ssj, yet they had no ki consumption like when they were in normal base, since ssj had become their base. This explains why he says "there's something more", rather than it's something else. The yakon thing is clearly stated in the manga, and I have yet to find any time where it was stated that he was in the fpssj form. If this is in fact found somewhere, please tell me so that I can check it out —This unsigned comment was made by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please sign your posts so I know who I am talking to, it gets confusing when multiple people post in the same topic. The people I am referring to included people reverting his edits on that and other pages, there were three or four, including me. I'll just ask so that we're on the same page: do you understand that his block had nothing to do with whether or not his info was correct? I hope the answer is yes, but let me know.
Now, if you read our Manual of Style, which is linked at the top of the main page, and again on your talk page, you'll see that guides hold a certain level of canon on this site, albeit lower than the anime or manga. This means that without a direct quote, we have to go with official guides, like the Daizenshuu, which was approved by Toriyama (though you are right, not written). Such a quote might be Vegeta saying something like, "They look exactly the same as they did before," (Full Power Super Saiyan example, which seems unlikely considering he was seeing Gohan for the first time) or, "Kakarot has surpassed the Super Saiyan transformation!" (as Goku kills Yakon). To reiterate, these are not quotes, say are examples of what would need to be presented. I am not saying such quotes do not exist, but as they have not been presented, the guides are still the best reference so far. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:58, February 8, 2011 (UTC)


hi uuummmm im a youtube friend of yoyepo91

not only is the white hair fpssj idea wrong, as it was shown in all forms of ssj in all the sagas, but that the manga specifically says that Goku went ssj2 against Yakon

yoyepo says 1.) that he can expect a video about dbz wiki administrator corruption based on him, and 2.) that yoyepo says "guess what? I've created an alternate anonymous account with which I have yet to address you or even talk or go on the fpssj page, so you'll never figure out who I am. —This unsigned comment was made by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Hello Yoyepo's friend, please sign your posts, as requested at the top of my talk page, it helps us know who is talking. In terms of the issues he and I had been discussing, they may have been correct, but we never got to find out, at he decided to start vandalizing articles, insulting people with inappropriate language, and breaking other rules before he presented any proof : /
Another user, YoungTopGunn, recently presented evidence and politely discussed the issue. As it turned out, he was correct, and will fix the article using a quote that he looked up. Yoyepo may have been correct, but he gave up his editing privileges when he decided he liked vandalism more than correctness. I don't know what he told you, but he was blocked only for breaking rules, and obviously not for the hair issue, which is ironically being corrected now. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:42, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ssj trunks

hey again 10x kamehameha, the post before, not the most recent post the old unsigned one, was me, I just forgot. and whoever the second person is, prob either young top gun or another friend, I showed yoyepo his talk page and he said

I'm pretty sure I checked that talk page and couldn't edit it, but I don't remember ever seeing someone else posting on it. that's rly wierd I'm going to have to check it out

So I don't think you're going to have to worry about the corruption video. he said he only checked his talk one time and it said he couldn't edit, So the dude probably only checked his profile page. you said that the message at the bottom appears when someone sends u something in talk, but it appeared for me a bunch of times simply while posting here, sending me messages like thanx for the edit, so I've already started ignoring them as spam. U guys should get something cool like the inbox on youtube that has a number next to ur messages to tell u how many uv got and where they're at. That would be pretty tight and make it more accessible to members.

on one he says Goku is ssj2, on the other he's shown in ssj2 form

and to my knowledge, the daizenshuu only says it's another form, not that the hair is any different. So i think it's fair to say that Yoyepo was right, despite acting like a jerk. and wow this internet site is annoying it keeps logging me out for some reason and when I hit publish it doesn't always do it the first click, but I'm glad cuz Yoyepo told me to send this as his final message

Okay, checked out my talk page, I guess u were right about me being able to appeal. Wish u had just explained that to me instead of calling me dishonest when I asked u about it, I mean sure u said check ur talk page, but I thought I had checked it and u were just saying that to sound honest and were intentionally blocking me out. Btw yall's bans r far too harsh. a ban for a first time edit war offence is 2 weeks? thats unreasonable it should be a one day ban first ever ban, then 3 day then 2 week. but it rly doesn't make a difference. I'm not a hot headed idiot, I just absolutely hate when I feel that an abuse of power is being made. I know now that I was incorrect in my assumptions and out of line with the insults. I, however, also know that vandalising a wiki site is just about the worst crime commitable on a wiki, one which no administrator will likely forgive. And let's be honest here, even if I was forgiven for it being a misunderstanding, The least the length of my ban could possibly be is still months, seeing as I acted vengefully when I became frustrated, and there's no excuse for vandalism. months long bans to me is basically the same as an infinite ban, seeing as I will have long lost interest by then. So I guess I'll have to create another account and never mention Yoyepo again. With that in mind, I believe this is the last time u'll be hearing from me. Well, not rly, as I'm sure U'll probably be talking to a surprisingly knowledgable member by the name of, maybe dbzmaster fan 87, or frieza is the king 29, or w/e name i think up, which will probably be a million times cooler than those, seeing as it will be my permanent account. until then, so long 10x. Oh, an PS. I asked my debate buddy from youtube Young Top Gun to come set the record straight, seeing as this evidence was already posted and ignored. Have fun with the debate me and you should have had. We debate on youtube and always tie because he is just as knowledgable when it comes to dbz as I am, if not a little more.

So yea, I've checked back on your messages and saw young top gun did get it changed, I know Yoyepo's going to be very happy when he sees that. It's pretty funny though, cuz he never gets pissed off unless someone blocks him from a youtube video, and then he's always like "dude, do me a favor and help me put this jerk in his place" Trust me, I'd know, its the only reason I'm here. But anyways, since fpssj is fixed now I don't have much reason to be here, so I'll see u around Ssj trunks 05:31, February 8, 2011 (UTC)ssj trunks

Yah, checking your talk page is pretty important, since it's the only way we can communicate with users. And don't worry, you only get 1 automated message ever on our site, and it's a friendly welcome with links to instructions for editing. When it comes down to it though, I told Yoyepo that he could edit his talk page on about three different pages that he was actively editing, so either he wasn't reading anything anyone else wrote, or he was lying, there's simply no other option unfortunately. As for the block issue, we do in fact take vandalism very seriously, and after 3 warnings, we don't hold back. Even then, the right thing to do is read our rules (which Yoyepo refused to do, lol) and wait it out. Making a new account just for spiteful vandalism gets you permanently blacklisted on any site. Also, I hope you don't mind, I removed the images because they're already on the correct article talk page. By the way, could you kindly post a link to where Yoyepo posted instructions for you to post this? Thanks! -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:45, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

he posted it on a youtube video he called corruption on dbz wiki, but he's already deleted it —This unsigned comment was made by Ssj trunks (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Honestly, I think that's really funny lol. By the way, don't forget to sign your posts. Oh and could you send me the link of where he gave you that message? -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:17, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
Um..Yoyepo is a friend of mines on youtube, but I never made a post in here, just to get things clear. I just found this page out right now.
YoungTopGunn 09:23, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

what the hell?

why are you deleteing my posts? that is uncivil and extremely rude of you. i am NOT writing bull crap on the pages and stuff so why delete it?

I have no idea what this is referring to or who this is, you'll need to sign your posts. Also, since it is required that all users use edit summaries when editing, I am sure that I explained why I did whatever I did. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:02, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

ssj trunks

Oh, I get it, you don't want more dudes coming on to give you the whole yoyepo ban speach. no worries, on youtube the comments r attached to the video, so the link to your page is gone. if u want to check him out, go to youtube, look up yoyepo91, and click on his name under one of the amvs, if u've got something to say to him u can type it right on his channel. But anyways dude if thats all then would u mind letting me know how to delete my account? I don't want this site's emails in my inbox, kinda a closet nerd, if my friends found out I'd be a laughing stock. Ssj trunks 07:05, February 8, 2011 (UTC)ssj trunks

I can delete your user page and talk page, but I can't delete the account itself. Should I go ahead and delete those? -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:12, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

if that's going to keep me from receiving emails, sure. But I'm pretty sure it won't, seeing as nobody's going to b going to my talk page to chat with me. Is there a way u can block the site from sending me any emails? Ssj trunks 07:35, February 8, 2011 (UTC)ssj trunks

I can't but you can, just edit your preferences. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:37, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

btw, Yoyepo's argument was never that u didn't tell him he could talk on his talk page. like I told you, he said he was pretty sure he couldn't edit on his talk page, cuz like i said b4 he was prob on his home page. Doesn't make much sense for him to make a new profile named yoyepo and specifically ask you how to appeal if he was just lying and trying to get past the system. He still says he's not sure if he could appeal on his talk page, says he's pretty sure his talk was banned on that as well. And he still says u were doing a bad job as an administrator, because he was still presenting u with indisputable evidence, so u shouldn't have simply deleted his messages w/o reading them and thinking, hey that is true, guess I can't let it be inaccurate. Oh btw, I'm not rly breakingjesus 57 from youtube, he just happens to be my friend on youtube who didn't want to get involved, and let me use his name. Young top gun is legit, you can check him out on youtube, he's actually asking me to edit the fpssj page for him right now cuz he's not home and using his cell, plus i dont think he rly knows how. So anyways I was thinking about using this account as my main, but ssj Trunks? what a bland name, right? lol oh well, I don't have to do the whole pretend to be ur friend for kicks thing. Btw u, sir, have impressed me, I didn't think u were particularly clever, but I can tell from ur questioning u knew I was Yoyepo and couldn't ban me because u couldn't verify it. So now u can, my final present from me to u, since I'm in such a good mood that the fpssj is actually going to be correct. bye bye now, I have to think of the perfect account name for my new profile.

You could go ahead and make another account, but that really would be dishonest, as you vandalized the articles and have been extremely deceptive in your most recent actions. In lieu of you continuing to try cheat the system, I am willing to resent the original Yoyepo block to 2 weeks, so long as you agree to read the Manual of Style and rules pages, as originally requested by the first message on your talk page. Let me know what you decide. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 08:42, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

but I don't like the name Yoyepo. Sure, it's my youtube name, but I made a much better profile shortly afterwards with a much cooler name that I was planning on using as my main. If I told u that name, could u just ban that one instead? (real name is lower in this message, but id appreciate it if u read my fpssj argument first, hence I posted it later.) btw is it cool if I post amvs and educational (like proving blowing up the solar system with one kamehameha takes far more energy than it would for Broly to blow up the galaxy with many blasts, seeing as solar system one blast would have to consume the whole thing, (diameter of over 4 billion miles) and counting the open space between planets thats a much more powerful blast) videos from youtube on my profile? also, I know ssj trunks is an illegal second account that will be banned, but I hope u listen to this one point I want to make b4 deleting it. My bud young top gun has sent me messages on youtube about the fpssj page, and I told him to make my slideshow, but idk if he knows how, so ill post it real quick. the fpssj page still says this.

"When relaxed, the user's hair appears more of a yellowish white, but when powered up, the golden glow seen all the time in the first transformation makes a return."

The problem with this is that it's not seen "all the time" in any other ssj transformation in the series except ssj3. My theory on this is because ssj3 is constantly radiating energy, as it takes so much energy to maintain, (fpssj was white for the longest periods of time in battle, but at full power it still went golden like the others) so it's basically like ur always powered up. All the other forms up to ssj2, when they rn't powered up, such as when toying with someone, r seen with the yellow white

take a look at this. it shows goku as a fpssj at the cell saga, compared to ssj2 gohan when he fought the cell juniors, ascended ssjs trunks and vegeta while not powered up, and goku when he toyed with frieza. they r all the same yellowish white when they rn't powered up and exerting large amounts of energy.

so, since you need proof for something to be included in an article, and the white hair is not only unproven, but is also shown by the slide show to exist in all the sagas and all the ssj forms, I believe it should be omitted from the fpssj page. And I'd appreciate if u could keep the ban on Yoyepo permanent, and instead ban my other account instead. I named it The Perfect Warrior, hence y I told u I had to come up with the perfect name for my new account. pun on words lol. I've also uploaded some pretty awesome pictures on that which can be used for the frieza page for 100% Frieza, ssj2 gohan, Goku ssj page, and the Cell page (I included good pics of him powering up to full power so u can have a pic of that in ur wiki, which currently only says he powered up but doesn't show it at all. It was a pretty big moment in the show and I think it needs to be represented, as it took like half a dbz episode just to trans).

anyways I guess now I'll be getting banned, So i'll see u in two weeks. Though I do have rediculous impatience due to my ADD, so I'll prob lose interest by then. I'm going to try to post one of my amvs to my profile right now while I still can, U should check it out it's an old one I made b4 i got better software but it's still pretty tight has like a 90% approval rating on youtube. and If I'm able to post it and I'm not allowed to on this site just delete it lol

Ssj trunks 20:27, February 8, 2011 (UTC) ssj trunks, February 8, 2011

Okay, that's fine, I'll disable this account and move the block to The Perfect Warrior. In terms of videos, they are not allowed on the site, as to make all pages easily viewable by readers with any type of internet access or connection. However, you can certainly post links to your videos and any images you like. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:19, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Tien Page

All better now. Don't ask me why it wasn't working before, as I haven't got a clue. :-) -- Nonoitall.png talk contr 02:21, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lol k thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:16, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Cooler's power scaling

The power scaling of Cooler is way off in his article because it says.

t was shown he was evenly matched with Goku in his base form. However, when he transformed into his 5th form, he far outclassed Goku even when he went Kaio-ken x20 (which made him at least equal to Frieza at 50% of his maximum power, and presumably much stronger, as Goku at this point had already defeated Frieza and become stronger by an unknown degree since then)

We know how powerful base Goku is in movie 5 is, at least after he eats the senzu bean and gets what is likely a zenkai. Anyways, after base Goku fights 4th form Cooler, Cooler says.

"You do as well as I expected, enought to have defeated my brother"

This was said in the original Japanese version of movie 5 before the Kaioken technique or the SSJ transformation even come around. So Cooler thinks base Goku is strong enough to beat Freeza. As you can see, my edits were correct so I changed some things on the power section. Here's what I wrote

In movie 5, it was shown that 4th form Cooler was near evenly matched with Goku in his base form. However, one interesting fact is by the time of movie 5 base Goku (after his received zenkai) had become so powerful that Cooler states after battling him that base Goku is powerful "enough to have defeated Freeza". Cooler then transformed into his 5th form where he far outclassed Goku even when Goku went into Kaio-ken x20, and lost only when Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan who dominated him and blasted him into the sun. However, Cooler is able to survive at the end of the battle with Goku.

Understanding Goku's base strength in movie 5 is essential to understanding 4th form Cooler's strength. It shows the 4th form Cooler is roughtly equal to Freeza's maximum strength. Base Goku fights and gains the upper hand on Cooler. Base Goku in movie 5 is stated to be strong enough to defeat Freeza. So 4th form Cooler is in the range of his brother's max (which was his forth form) and Cooler's final form is ridiculously strong. —This unsigned comment was made by VictoriusIII (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

First off, please sign your posts, as instructed at the top of this page. Second, I'm not going to get involved in this unless necessary. What you need to do is use the Cooler talk page, and make your argument. If no one disagrees for a week or two, then you can change the article. If someone disagrees with your proposed change, then you will need to discuss the issue until a consensus is reached. What you may not do is edit war. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 18:00, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Incomplete page

The page Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files stops in mid sentence about its release date Super Saiyan 09

I don't see any problem on the article, can you be more specific? -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:09, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's not incomplete now must have been a computer glitch or I didn't seeit but I swear it was incomplete before. Super Saiyan 09

No problem. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:40, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Forum Page


I have noticed that in theforum page people are getting rid of all the forums and are writing messages, some are just saying hi and other messages but others are using vandalism but both are not supposed to be there. Also all of the people that have edited this page are not registered users and though I keep changing it back to the way it was before I come back to the forum page and someone else deletes all the content on the page and puts a message there. This is probably a stupid question but this isn't supposed to be like this on the forum page is it? I guess since many different unregistered user are writing on the page it seems strange, I would understand if it was just one person but there was about 7 different people making that kind of edit? Friezapic.jpgIceMoonCloudFrieza1stform.gifFriezaRobotNV.png 05:29, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

They should not be deleting other people's comments. Please give me the links to any forums which you fell need intervention. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:11, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

The entire forum page that lists all of the forums is the link, but it seems that you have fixed the edits but I am afraid that this deleting of others comments will continue and some of user registered or not will just delete the info and write somthing like when I reverted the edits before, but I suppose there isn't much anyone can to do about that. Friezapic.jpgIceMoonCloudFrieza1stform.gifFriezaRobotNV.png 06:45, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

We could put protection on the page, but that would prevent both vandals and well-intentioned users from editing the page. In this case, the page might be best left unedited by anyone, since it's just links, so we'll have to see how this plays out. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:37, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
I agree everyone should deserve to edit the page if they have good intentions. I guess all everyone can do is try to fix the page if it is vandalized. As time passes I really hope it plays out for the best for that page.
Friezapic.jpgIceMoonCloudFrieza1stform.gifFriezaRobotNV.png 01:58, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Im Sorry

Hey 10X,

I am very sorry about the mistake I did twice by creating that page, you blocked me for a month and I now learned my lesson, so I'm sorry for nearly ruining Dragonball Wikia!

But I am now trying to make up for my mistake, I created a page on Hero(Dragonball Heroes) I hope you like that page, I really tried hard on it, since it's a Japanese thing and I really don't know japanese!

So once again I am very sorry! =)



No, there was too much vandalism from anonymous IP and new users before the protection. Since you have registered an account, you just have to wait a week or two before the site recognizes you as a non-new user. In the meantime, read our Manual of Style so that your edits will be productive. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:42, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Shut It Up! Teefkids 04:19, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

If you are telling me to shut up, that is very rude (and weird, since you messaged me on my talk page). If you mean the protection, just be patient. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:36, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


hey man i dont know if you remember me but i left a wile back and i barley said bye to any one and since it think Dartkprince left i want to try to say bye to everyone i can. I want to thank you for not doin my sig because you helped me learn how even though it looks kinda clunky cause of me XD. ALOT of people say yer mean you werent to me in fact you seemed very patient BYE FER EVER [[User:Saiyn prince 5821 150px-SSJ2Vegeta.jpgSaiyn prince 5821]]171px-134.jpg 00:19, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well thanks, I appreciate the compliment. Until we meet again, sayonara! -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:27, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Rudeness on my talk page

I haven't been by in a while, and I noticed you left a very rude message on my talk page. Specifically,

" Do not simply put your comment in between other comments, like you tried to do so again. "

The use of italics in this context is not appropriate for a calm, civilized discussion. In addition, it's pretty common practice when dealing with a THREADED conversation to leave your comments in the appropriate part of the thread (mainly, the section you are commenting on). On top of that, I have not received any notices previously on this subject, so implying that I have done so before is misleading.

In addition, I feel the wording used in your statement goes against the spirit of Wikia and the Dragonball Wiki, specifically http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Wiki:About#Feedback_and_questions "Be Bold", not to mention your own talk page:

  • Be polite
  • Assume good faith
  • No personal attacks
  • Do not bite the newcomers
  • Respond in a mature manner
  • Be welcoming
  • Maintain civility at all times

Also, I looked at the Manual of Style page and saw nothing that said threaded conversations were against the rules

I do not mind constructive feedback, but I do not tolerate rude feedback.

BrentNewland 03:09, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

My use of italics in this context was appropriate because it added emphasis, not hostility, to my point. I used my edit summaries to explain the mistake you had made several times, but you ignored my statements. At the top of my talk page, you'll find the instructions, "Put new text under old text." This is contrary to what you had been doing, which was putting new text above old text. Regardless of what you have seen on other websites, that is how this one works. For many issues, you have a choice about what to do, but formatting is almost always kept consistent by administration on wikia sites. I do not believe that my message was rude in the context of events, but I am sorry if you feel offended by my straightforwardness. I meant only to construe that I was frustrated with you ignoring administrative requests for you to follow our format. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:27, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


Hi I just wanna say thanks for the message. you seem nice! I'll contact you when I have problems ;D Template:Unsgined

Great, I'll be around. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:27, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Inappropiate behavior on blogs

I was looking at Emperor Pilaf's page and saw a photo of a person who resembled Gohan as he appears in GT is there I then made a blog of this joking that he must have time traveled or something and A Wikia Contributor told me to shut the hell up with my weird theories and called me a fuzzbag. I replied telling him that was uncalled for and since I just wrote that 5 minutes ago he didn't but if does write more unnecssary stuff on the Wiki could you block him for it? SuperSaiyan09

Why don't you post a link to the blog for me and I'll take a look. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:16, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

The name of the blog is Gohan cameo in Dr. Slump if you search recent activity you should find it. It should also be on the main page under recent blogs. Super Saiyan 09

Mature tags.


Look, I don't want to force you to consider adding in the Maron pic. In fact, personally, I'd rather it not exist, and would prefer it if you didn't add it in, and that's the honest truth. However, I was wondering about not allowing nudity in the wiki due to it being for all ages. I mean, hey, I don't want it either due to my religion as well as the little kids sake, but I thought adding it in while trying to keep the younger audience from accessing it was the entire point of the Mature tags creation? You know, this:


"Mature Content Warning!"
‎This article contains some content involving a mature subject or situation and may not be suitable for younger audiences

On that note, I did commission Captain Jim Logan to try to find proof that this was in the Irish dub, since he was the one who stated that it was from that dub. I'll even post what he said in my talk page this morning as proof:

"I apologise for what V.1 did, he is my Cousin and he has gotten me and himself into trouble MANY MANY times in the past. But yes that picture he uploaded is real, its like from some Dub in Ireland Captain Jim Logan 03:17, February 17, 2011 (UTC)"

For good measure, here is the direct link to the comment: User talk:Weedle McHairybug#V.1. I would have posted proof of even the recording of the video just for good measure if I were him, not to boast or anything, just trying to state what is. Weedle McHairybug 19:54, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

The tag is for mature content, not adult content. It is very different to talk about breasts than to show them, which is where we draw the line. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:29, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
But... didn't some of the pics or at least the one that actually validated the existance of that tag in the first place actually show breasts? You know, the one where Bulma had to expose herself to get Roshi to have a big nosebleed to expose invisible man? Anyways, I hope you at least now know why I thought it actually was in an Irish dub now. Weedle McHairybug 20:33, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well we did once play around with the idea of a template to hide adult images until you clicked it, but it didn't seem like a good enough precaution. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:39, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I guess that is a good enough explaination. Well, did you at least understand why I thought that that Maron image was from the Irish dub, and apparently not a fake image? Weedle McHairybug 20:42, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yah, I gotchya. I could just tell from the image itself that it had been poorly edited. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:47, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Just out of curiousity, what details gave away that it was poorly edited? On that note, I might need a link to the doctored image (meaning, where it originally came from outside of the Wikia) so I could practice and make absolute certain that the next time someone tries to upload that image or a similar doctored nude image or any doctored image period, I'll be ready to counter it. Weedle McHairybug 20:49, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Just rough edges and different styles of art on the same image mostly. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:40, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to need to find the original source of that image anyways. I mean, I don't want to make the same mistake twice, and although I personally don't wish to look, I'm going to have to do so if I am going to prevent myself from making the same mistake as before in regards to this. If you know sites that hold it so I can try to analyze and find any evidence of it being fake, can you please tell me? The only thing worse than looking at nude girls is making a mistake about it being real or fake. Weedle McHairybug 22:04, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know where it came from, and you probably don't need to be looking at that kind of material. Instead, just do a google search for "bad photoshopping" or something where you can see how to tell when something is fake without feeling uncomfortable with the material itself. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:06, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that's good enough for me. And thanks. Anyways, Logan stated his friend saw it on some site that streams dubs. More information will come later. Weedle McHairybug 23:09, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hey man

Hey, first I like Dragon ball Z, Dragon ball GT, and Dragon ball Z kai. I was wondering, I read the rules for this wiki and went to another page and I saw the guy posted something saying you made a mistake with 'who's and whose' and you said you would fix it and you a pretty cool signature, is that special signature a 'just administrators' thing or what, cause if so I want to know how to do that on my wiki or is it just for this wiki? Austin Smith, Catishot1, Big Bang Kanehameha X100 03:36, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

You can do it on any wikia site, and any user can make/use one. Instructions can be found at the top of this page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:10, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Puar edit

Why did u remove the Puar edit. If you see the episodes where Goku is attackinG the Red Ribbon Army base everyone thinks Goku will be killed but Puar says Goku can handle it by himself. Super Saiyan 09

You made a claim that would literally be impossible to prove off of a single event that doesn't even concern all other characters. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:10, February 19, 2011 (UTC)


hey how do you favorite a page?

You just edit your user page and list them, there is no additional application. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:12, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Profanity Comment

There's a profanity comment on this blog

Battle damaged characters I've edited!(Raging gohan's version)Battle damaged characters I've edited!(Raging gohan's version)

Could you remove it? ASSJ R GThe Ultra ThunderSSGTransfo4.pngEdit Countcontribs 12:09, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Got it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:34, February 25, 2011 (UTC)


can you help me on me new wiki it called Dragon Ball Z Kai cuts can you help.!

Please sign your posts, as requested at the top of this page. I will check out your site. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:14, February 26, 2011 (UTC)


Hey there mate I just wanted to say i found your how to make a sig link VERY helpful!!!! so thanks so much for that! I still can`t figure out how to get images on my sig though could you please help me?! I`d like these 2 if possible please and thanks again!! P.S(your sig is about the coolest thing I`ve ever seen that mustve taken a while!) thanks again!


Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gifJeiceJeice123.jpg 04:53, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. How's that? -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 18:59, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
Thats PERFECT thank you so so so so much!!!! This is great I hope I can be a great admin like you one day well thanks for the help c ya round mate :D! Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gifJeiceJeice123.jpg 19:35, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dragon Ball: Legendary Super Warriors Incarnate

This video game doesn't exist. It's the name of a wiki. Google it or ask for it on video games website forums, it doesn't exist. Jeangabin666 19:13, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Great thanks. In the future, when it's not obvious, you can always use the delete template to state the reason. The article's talk page is good too. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:02, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Big tails and shadow fan

hi you wanna be frinds and is it ok to edit —This unsigned comment was made by Big tails and shadow fan (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

ha thaks

Hi, sure. Don't forget to sign your posts though. You can certainly edit, but make sure they are good edits by reading the Manual of Style. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:07, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

thaz i well and i did


Help! :)

Hey 10x I was just wondering if I could help/do anything on this wiki to help make it better do you have any jobs I could cause I`d love to help make this wiki the best it can be! Let me know please. Thanks. Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gifJeiceJeice123.jpg 07:32, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well there isn't a ton to do, since the series have been around for so long and not much new stuff is happening, but you can always update Kai episode articles as they're released. Other than that, if you talk to Nonoitall he might have something going on that you could help with. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 15:47, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Immature editing

The page Poop(actual name) has some childish content and I don't how to edit it back. Note(someone else may edit first so if it's still there or not when you get this let me know. Super Saiyan 09

Dealt with. Super Saiyan 09


hello i was wondring if you can put a picture as my default i tryed and it wont let me plese help me thxDbz7 02:04, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Your default what? -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:08, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

i want this pic as my main picDbz7 23:41, March 3, 2011 (UTC)


i want this as my main pic

I don't know what you think a "main pic" is... -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:01, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
lol i mean your main pic is goku doing the kamahameha and i want this oneDbz7 00:46, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Haha I think he means his avatar right?! Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gifJeiceJeice123.jpg 04:46, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
yea thats right i want that pic as my avatar.


Hey could you please put these pics on my sig I can`t figure out how to?!? {{SUBST:User:Burter/sig2}} 03:34, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


It doesn't look like your sig is working normally right now. Why don't you try and get something basic sorted out, and then I'll help you with the more advanced editing, like adding images. If my guide isn't clear, you can always ask me to clarify steps. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:32, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

ok I`ll message you back when i get iit right! ok so I have a little problem I did the sig thing right but when i click it it takes me to the wrongs persons page! Do you know how to fix that??? BurterTGFP.pngBurter!BurterDBK.png 05:59, March 5, 2011 (UTC) Wait nevermind I got it but can you still please help with the pics haha sorry to be a bother :)! BurterTGFP.pngBurter!BurterDBK.png 06:02, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Are you the same person as Jeice? -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:58, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

No. Hes my friend we decided it would be cool to do this BFF Burter and Jeice thing :D! Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gifJeiceJeice123.jpg 04:20, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I understand thats fair! Thanks for the sig it looks AMAZING! YOURE AWESOME!!!!! BurterTGFP.pngBurter!BurterDBK.png 05:56, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Just checking, only because everyone's only allowed one profile each. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:07, March 6, 2011 (UTC)
Burter's sig is all set! -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:09, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah that did turn out pretty awesome can you change my left picture on my this one? This will be my last favor I promise! Thanks!

Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gif

Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gifJeiceJeice123.jpg 06:02, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

All set. If you checkout the edit I made to change the pic, it's probably easy enough to do yourself in the future. Literally, just change the name, haha. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:53, March 6, 2011 (UTC)
Haha oooo thanks a lot!!! It looks great! I get what your saying now haha I fell kinda dumb! Well thanks for being truly awesome! C Ya! Tn JeiceWithHandStickingOut.gifJeiceJeice123.jpg 19:31, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

(is kid buu fan)


I, Tyler, am a long time fan of the Dragon Ball series as well. I have carefully calculated Super Buu's height in comparison to Gohan's height when they stood face to face in "A Whole New Gohan." On my screen Gohan was 5 inches and Super Buu was 7.5 inches. Gohan as an adult is 5'9 (according to the wikia). Usuing algebreic concepts I multiplied 7.5/x by 5/5.75 to get 5x-43.125. Next I added 43.125 by both sides to get 5x=43.125. Finally I divided 5 by both sides mean x=8.625 feet tall. .625 is equal to 5/8 of a foot. Half of that is 2.5/4 of a foot, multiplied by 3 equals 7.5/12 of a foot making Super Buu aproxximatly 8'7.5. I apoligize if it is incorrect.

Hi Tyler, I appreciate your work and thought into this. However, that is something called original research, which is not permitted on wikia sites. This is because animation is not always consistent. What we use instead are quotes from the series and official statements from creators or guide books. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:07, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh well. Thanks for the tip.


You told me that I keep editing the Kuriza page. It's true, but for a good reson. I posted a picture of Mecha Kuriza and somone keeps changing the caption to "Kuriza in his Final Form". May I ask for you to tell them to stop? Thank you. Pengmunk!!1! 20:12, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Pengmunk, sorry but Kuriza in DBZ 2 V (as well as in Neko Majin) has no Mecha form. His transformation in this video game is clearly the final form he used in Neko Majin. Jeangabin666 20:31, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Even if it's an alternate color scheme, it's really just speculation to assume Kuriza is "Mecha" based solely on one image. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:28, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Power Level Page

What happened to the Power Level Page? It used to go up to the end of GT I'm pretty sure but now it stops after Frieza with exception of few movies. Also you know if Vegeta gained any strength from being healed by Dende after Krillin's blast or did he just keep his old strength? In other words who was stronger at the end of the Frieza Saga Vegeta or Piccolo(fused with Nail)? Super Saiyan 09

I'm not sure, I don't think there are many power levels given officially for GT. Regardless of the method, Vegeta certain should have experienced a zenkai after recovering from near death. At that point, it is difficult to determine who was stronger. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:29, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, i'm pretty sure it was Vegeta because he fought Final Form Frieza fairly well until he lost confidence while Piccollo was even or slightly better than Seconf Form Frieza.Vegeta6.jpgVEGETATheLegendarySuperSayiiaVegeta5.jpeg 05:20, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Good point. Also, awesome sig! -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:19, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

South Kaioshin Daniel

who do you think would win Piccolo vs Goten and Trunks no fusion i think Piccolo cause Goten and Trunks had trouble with Android 18 and Piccolo is tons stronger then Android 18 you'r thoughts? South Kaioshin Daniel 18:30, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

It depends when the fight would happen. When Piccolo fights 18, Trunks is a baby and Goten has not been born yet. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:29, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

When did Piccolo fight 18?ASSJ R GThe Ultra ThunderSSGTransfo4.pngEdit Countcontribs 19:37, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I mean 17, who's just about even in power. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:42, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Age 677

I have another question about the age 677 page. was it deleted due to false information? Because the information on that page was information from a page on this wiki! (list of Character ages) so whats up?

I don't know who wrote this, plase read the top of this page and sign your posts. The article was deleted because it doesn't make sense. An article about one year should not exist only to reference several. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:10, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
O.k., I understand. Thanks. -BabaTrunks9872

Fullum/Fu-Lum Page

Please do not assume things when you edit peoples' pages. Fullum is spelled F-U-L-L-U-M. Not Fu-Lum! Fullum. I have an official Dragonball Evolution DVD and in the subtitles it even says FULLUM WARRIORS. —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please sign all edits so I know who is talking. As for the page, there was already an existing page an existing page about the same topic. If a name change is decided upon, the old article should be moved- there should never be two articles about the same thing. As for what the name actually is you should discuss this with whoever started the Fu-Lum page and find out what the source of that spelling was. This discussion should take place onthediscussion page of the article it pertains to. Then, use the Manual of Style (which you should have read before editing, as requested on your talk page) to determine which spelling is preferred. Do not simply create a second article, and do not write comments in the article itself. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:22, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


Can you take a look at this. Jeangabin666 14:19, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

I've left a warning about our policies on the user's talk page. Let me know if the problem continues. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:23, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Help me

Can you help me please in the forum What new fusions would you like to see. I appreciate 10X Kamehameha

Please sign your posts, I can't help you if I don't know who you are. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:51, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


Hey, this is BabaTrunks9872.

I noticed that there is no article or reference to the Crazy monkey tecinque that Goku uses during the 20th World Martial Arts Tournament. Now I don't think I have the exspierence to make an article and if I try to make one, it will probably end up getting deleted. This is where I ask you for a favor. Could you try to make an article on this topic or at least tell me where to reference it in another article. If there is already a reference to this topic and I just happened to miss it, could you please tell me where I could find it, it seems like a intresting topic to read about. Now this may be a silly topic to write about but it would be highly appreciated if you considered helping me write it, due to my lack of inexspierence. I hope you read this and think about helping me.

The article is here: Mad Dog Fist. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:43, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I never knew it was also called the Mad dog fist. Is it only called the Crazy Monkey Techinque in the anime? Or only in certain dubs? -BabaTrunks9872

I'm not sure actually. Feel free to add alternate names to the article though. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:59, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


Thank you man :)

I'll do alot of edits and try clean up anyone elses worng edits I am a true dbz fan and i look on this site everyday and yeah I just wanna help out.

Hey man yeh looking faward to helping this wiki out also removing the junk from spoliers

Ill help in every way i can (SuperVegitoo)

Hey great, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 14:10, March 15, 2011 (UTC)


Hey thanks for the message. The name's Raditz and i'll do any thing to become the ultiment saiyan. i'll do my best to improve the wikia as much as I can. {How dare you defy your brother}

Umm, great! -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:29, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


hi! thank you for the answer!

if I can ask, I'd like to see the complete "the plane to eredicate saiyans" because I've seen it in dragon ball raging blast 2 in the category "videos" but I have been tell that there is another one more complete with more enemies and 4 (not 1) destron gas!
I would see it, maybe with the subtitles in italian, but in english it's ok!
can you tell me the title or the link where I can download it?

THANK YOU a lot, Bonossj3 (:

as you can see I'm not good in using this wikia, i'd like to chat with you about dragon ball if you want, please send me an e-mail on this : marcobono_95_@hotmail.it

sorry for the disturbing bye! :)

I'm waiting for your e-mail !


Hi, unfortunately what you're trying to do sounds illegal, so I will not be able to help you with that. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:32, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

list of flashbacks in until we meet again

I was reading the Until We Meet Again page and it says Super 17 isn't recapped but then it says all the escaped villains from Hell attacking Earth is recapped at the bottom of the list. Which is it? Super Saiyan 09

Took care of it myself if I'm worng change it back Super Saiyan 09

I re-watched to make sure, neither Super 17 not the villains' escape from hell are recapped. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:03, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

List of Inconsistancies

The wish to revive Piccolo was made with Guru's dragonballs. Even if the rules for Kami's and Guru's dragonballs in that particular regard were different, King Kai would have known Guru's rules. Not Moori's rules, as they had yet to even be formed at that point in time. Joegt123 23:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I had a discussion earlier with someone who was comparing body-location problem with the later revivals done with Moori's Dragon Balls. The difference just after Namek is that neither Goku's nor Krillin's bodies have been retained in the afterlife, whereupon they would have a location other than where they died. That was the case with Goku after Raditz, and Piccolo after Nappa. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:14, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
That makes sense, I suppose. Though it does raise other questions like why they wouldn't have had their bodies. Joegt123 00:19, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Kind Kai was probably wondering the same thing, lol. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:56, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

User: ShitballsRevenge

You wanna take care of this guy there, boss? He's spammin' stuff up. There's also 4 images he uploaded that need deleting. Joe DBGT Logo.svg 123 Z Ball.svg 09:51, March 22, 2011 (UTC) (also, yay signature =D)

Sure, I'll take care of it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 15:45, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Trunks, Bulla, and Vegeta Jr.

I don't know about you, but I'm kinda getting tired of people making edits that difinitively state which one of them is the grandparent. Maybe you should lock those articles so 'contributors' can't edit them any more. Joe DBGT Logo.svg 123 Z Ball.svg 04:49, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

It would be pretty drastic to block all editors, but I'll take a look. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:43, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
I don't mean block all editors, I mean block 'Wikia Contributors' the unregistered users. It's usually one of them who edits it. Joe DBGT Logo.svg 123 Z Ball.svg 07:47, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, how I edit forum post?

Hi, can you please say me how edit forum post? I don't see any edit button, and I forget put my name on my choice.

Pleas sign your posts on talk pages like this one, there are instructions at the top of this page for doing so. As for forums, there should be an "edit" button on the top of the page. It will be the third tab from the left, after "forum" and "discussion." -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:03, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Do Not Know

how do you submit something for discussion for deletion. I didn't understand the page about it. Jeenking

Just type the following at the top of the article you would like to mark: {{delete|"reason for deletion"}}. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:02, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks.Ninja in the Shadows 21:04, March 25, 2011 (UTC)


Do you think it was smart of me to try and delete the Page called Bath. JeenkingNinja in the Shadows 21:17, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

You didn't do it quite right, try copy-pasting the template I showed you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:23, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks i fixed it. you know, your always helping me. I wish there was a award i could nominate you for. Jeenking Ninja in the Shadows 22:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Cell absorbing SSJ4 Goku

Can you take a look at Cell's page. I think that this sentence: "Combining his own power with the maximum power of Goku's Super Saiyan 4 form would prove him to be one of the most powerful villains in the entirety of the Dragon Ball anime." is speculation but User:ZPRN thinks it is a fact. Jeangabin666 23:34, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Can you please direct me to the article? -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:30, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
I think we resolved this issue on Jean's talk page, but here Cell. Joe DBGT Logo.svg 123 Z Ball.svg 03:33, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

My Campaign

I have a campaign to take down Bath the Page. I put it on the discussing for deletion page. Since you have sysop privileges and i think you disapprove of that Page too. So since you have Sysop privileges can you try to delete it. Jeenking Ninja in the Shadows 00:05, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

You have too discuss this. Jeangabin666 00:10, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks I didn't know. Jeenking Ninja in the Shadows 11:59, March 26, 2011 (UTC)


Woah. You're a complete DB Fan... 50pxNo, please don't eat me. I have a wife and kids, eat them.70px 12:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)


I made a goal to get 100 edits before April, and I just reached 100 edits.

Cool, congrats. Although I don't know who this is, lol. Please remember to sign your posts. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 19:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

sorry its jeenking. jeenking=Ninja in the Shadows 19:56, March 26, 2011 (UTC)


when I edit my profile and send messages to people it won't let me put pictures. Do you know whats wrong with it? jeenking=Ninja in the Shadows 20:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

First, you should make sure that the image has been properly uploaded to the site. After that, the general format for posting images looks like: File:(name of image).(abbreviation of the extension, like jpg or png. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for vetoing the deletion of death the stage, and changing the name. Your very nice, you know that. I am the author of it.

Haha thanks, and don't forget to sign all of your posts. As for the death page, it was a purely objective decision, but thank you for your kind words. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's not showing the button to put pictures their. jeenking=Ninja in the Shadows 21:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

That only appears on new user pages. Write what I just showed you to add them elsewhere. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

But what if i don't know the file name. jeenking=Ninja in the Shadows 01:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, when you upload an image from your computer to the site, you have to pick the name. There should be a button on the left that says "Upload photo." -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blog Help

Hello i was wondering if you could help me with deleating my blogs as i don't want them anymore.VegitoSS.pngVegito SSJ4.jpgSSJ4 Vegeta.jpgGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSs4goku anime.jpgSs4GOGETA.jpgGogeta photo.jpg 01:29, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

At the top of the page you'll find instructions for posting here. Put new text under old text, not between please. As for blogs, there's no need to delete them, you can just ignore them if you are not interested in them anymore. Also, the method for deleting them does not work properly. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Ok thank you anywaysVegitoSS.pngVegito SSJ4.jpgSSJ4 Vegeta.jpgGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSs4goku anime.jpgSs4GOGETA.jpgGogeta photo.jpg 01:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


Hey 10X I just finished my sig, but I couldn`t figure out how to get pictures could you please put these 2 on each side, and maybe tell me how to do it? Thanks!  SpiritBomb   =D 03:06, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

DragonballZ-Movie07 1527.jpg

Sure, it's pretty easy. Check out my instructions, they're linked at the top of this page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:38, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


I can't get any picture to work as my avatar pic, how do i do it? Legendary Super Saiyan 04:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)3/27/11, 12:18 a.m.

You should be able to click on the empty box where it's missing and pick a file to use. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Gohan vs Goku ss3

Hello agian I am having a little argument with someone on if it is stated somewhere on this site that Goku ss3 is stronger than a Mystic Gohan he says it is and I say it isn't I just want to know if it is?VegitoSS.pngVegito SSJ4.jpgSSJ4 Vegeta.jpgGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSs4goku anime.jpgSs4GOGETA.jpgGogeta photo.jpg 17:41, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

During Wrath of the Dragon, SS3 Goku is able to almost singlehandedly defeat Hirudegarn, albeit using a lot of cunning in addition to great power and a new move: Dragon Fist. Earlier in the movie Ultimate Gohan tries to fight Hirudgarn and, if I recall correctly, is knocked unconscious with a single slap. These events occur after the end of the Dragon Ball Z TV series. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Humm but it is also proven that super syian 3 Goku couldn't lay a finger on super Buu but Gohan could have killed him.VegitoSS.pngVegito SSJ4.jpgSSJ4 Vegeta.jpgGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSs4goku anime.jpgSs4GOGETA.jpgGogeta photo.jpg 20:29, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want to get too much into that, just because it's 1/3 of all of DBZ we're looking at, but basically at the end Goku says that he could have ended it at any time, but wanted to let the younger generation try and do it first. How true this is, we don't know, but it pretty much skews all comparison info between Goku and any other character during this time.
However, if Gohan is stronger during the Buu sagas and then stops training again, it would be reasonable to assume Goku eventually surpasses him during his training with Uub, at least by the time of Wrath of the Dragon. More evidence of this is shown during GT, when Goku reaches another level entirely, SS4. -- SSJ4 Goku(2).jpg 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Ok thank you for clearing this up for me. =]VegitoSS.pngVegito SSJ4.jpgSSJ4 Vegeta.jpgGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpgSs4goku anime.jpgSs4GOGETA.jpgGogeta photo.jpg 20:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)