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Archive 1 August, 2009 - December, 2009
Archive 2 December, 2009 - February, 2010
Archive 3 February, 2010 - April, 2010

Andriod 17

In regards to the user Legendaryss4, although he made an edit to a page that was vandalism, he did report on PZ's talk page that it was a mistake. You probably already noticed this but just incase you banned him for it  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:01, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lol i did notice, it's not a big deal : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 15:36, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Would you have banned him if it was not a mistake though?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:11, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

It looked like an accident, so probably not. For me to do the least punishment, being a 1-day temp. block, I would need to see either some harassment of another user or clear, purposeful vandalism (such as replacing article content with profanity). We never really block people for accidental stuff, especially if they're new. The only time we would block someone with no malicious intent is if we tell them they're doing something wrong, usually at least twice, and they ignore the warnings. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:47, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh right I see. I only said that to you because I thought that you might not have noticed him saying to PZ that it was an accident is all.  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:16, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

what is your favorite villains? series and movies

what were ur favorite villains in DB, DBZ, and DBGT, movies also? —This unsigned comment was made by Broly12144 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

King Piccolo was probably my favorite DB villain. Up until then, most of the bad guys all just seemed comical and weak (aside from Tao). But when King Piccolo showed up, he had a minion who he considered pitifully weak kill one of the original main characters! It was crazy to think of how powerful King Piccolo was at the time, and he was yet to even lift a finger.
Frieza was my favorite DBZ villain for a lot of the same reasons that King Piccolo was my favorite DB villain. Frieza had some really powerful minions, including the the Ginyu Force, who made Vegeta (the strongest fighter in the series before the Z-fighters arrived on Namek) look like a wimp! The way that these powerful fighters all trembled at the thought of Frieza made him a force to be reckoned with. I also really enjoyed the various form aspect of Frieza, for much the same reason that I find the Super Saiyan transformations so cool.
In GT, I'd have to say the Shadow Dragons as a whole were my favorite. It's not that they were that amazing in my opinion, but Super 17 seemed pretty unoriginal, and Baby was just too whiny for me to like. Baby also had that thing where he was a robot, yet a life-form, and was out to get revenge for some dead species that he wasn't even a part of. It made him come off as a tool/puppet, which I can't really respect.
My favorite movie villain is definitely Broly. He appeared at a time in the series where the Super Saiyans in DBZ must've thought themselves pretty invincible, having achieved such immense power in their new forms. But then out of nowhere comes a new Super Saiyan to put them back in their place and remind them that there's always a bigger bad*** waiting just around the corner. In Broly's second appearance, I personally thought he would just get whooped by SS2 Gohan. Broly wouldn't have it though, proving that fancy power-ups and extra transformations won't cut it versus his continually growing, massive raw power. Every time Broly shows up, it takes nearly every other living Saiyan's power combined (I count Bio-Broly as a separate entity, since it was a clone) to defeat him, and that makes for one heck of a foe. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:42, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Future Bulma

If Future Bulma is so important why isn't she in any of the other relations Bulma has besides Vegeta? She is not on any other page besides Bulma's family connections and Vegeta's family connections list. —This unsigned comment was made by Banan14kab (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Feel free to add future Bulma as a family connection to any character that lists normal Bulma as a connection (as long as the connection exists before the Android Saga, the point at which the universes diverge). -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:34, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so Bulla, Vegeta Jr, and his mother are not counted in this? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 19:39, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Right. I actually just updated the MoS with these divergent-timeline-created exceptions. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:49, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

The other guy who was complaining before was right. There are many inconsistencies and things on this wiki site. It's getting too confusing. Also why can't Goku and Gohan's images change? Everyone else's did. Do we really need to see all of Gohan's forms? They are in the article for Christ's sake. (Banan14kab 17:00, April 18, 2010 (UTC))

It's not that they can't change, it's that the current ones are better. And you can tell by the reverts that it's not just my opinion. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ok fine. I forgot that I am always wrong on here. All of my edits bring out a lot of controversy from users and admins alike, so I will stop trying. I have decided to stop editing (again) and this time I mean it. How do I delete my wikia account? I am not coming back on here. (Banan14kab 23:31, April 18, 2010 (UTC))

I'm sorry to hear that, but if you'd like to delete your account, I think you need to have it done by Nonoitall. If deleting your user page and talk page would suffice, and you're sure you're not coming back, then just mark those pages for deletion, and I can handle it from there. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:49, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


Hey man, I was thinking of creating a page about the actual legend surrounding Super Saiyans (I discussed it breifly on the Origina Super Saiyan talk page), but I think that will cause a lot of confusion. How do you set up a Disambiguation page and have links head to that first? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 20:23, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Since the "Original" Super Saiyan is already pretty well established, I would advise putting info about the legend itself on that page. The two topics seem very closely related, so that makes sense to me, what do you think? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:49, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think that can work, as long as we change the things about the "original" super saiyan to be the "most recent" super saiyan that Vegeta talks about during Goku's fight with Recoome. That way there can be information about that saiyan, the possibility of an actual original super saiyan, and then the legend itself. I wonder if that doesn't make the title of the article a little misleading though? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 00:44, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Idk, this whole issue seems a little tricky due to translations and such. Why don't you see what SSJGoku93 thinks? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:07, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing. It is rather complicated and get confusing. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 01:12, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


is it ok to put pics on episode pages.Majin-VegetaTheDarkPrinceReturns!1123983673 ajinVegeta 19:20, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

It is not only okay, it would be awesome! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:42, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Infinite World Goku Halo

Hello, I was wondering if you had the video game Dragon Ball Z Infinite World. IF you do could please tell me the cheat/code to get Goku's costume with a Halo.

I know it exists because I've seen it on Youtube. Please Help Me.

Aadraj11 23:50, April 19, 2010 (UTC)Aadraj11

Other World

Sorry to bother you again, but I was doing one of my first edits on the Other World article and I wanted to know from a admin if I did it well, since I am kinda new!

Aadraj11 00:19, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Aadraj11

Live action Vegeta

The user Slz2011 (Or SIz2011, I can't tell whether it's a capital i or a lower L) keeps creating, adding information to, and removing the deletion template from a page about Vegeta in an upcoming DB film. There is no source material that is cited, and all information put on the page comes from other pages (such as Vegeta's or Goku's). Can you block or ban this user? He has refused to answer questions on his talk page about it. Thanks. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 00:31, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I agree this page is a very messy one (It is also on the list for speedy deletion...)Aadraj11 00:35, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Aadraj11


While watching the entire DB series (Episodes now not the movies) i noticed that the only part of his body that piccolo regenerates is his left arm, he does this three times. Once against Goku in the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament in Dragon Ball, then after the fight with Raditz and when Cell sucks the life out of it, in Dragon Ball Z

I just wondered would you like to use this in the 'Did you know' section in the future

(SSJ2 23:13, April 20, 2010 (UTC))

Actually, the user SSJGoku93 handles that particular feature. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:10, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


Hey can you delete the page Distracting saruken? It's a useless page with has no relevant information and seems like a fan made attack. Thanks  SSWerty  04:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Manga Covers

Hello~, I'm trying to add all the missing manga covers, and had a few questions

  • Should I upload each individual image under the chapter name, or is altering the "destination file name" enough?
  • Which option I should pick for licensing?

That's all [for now >__<] Thanks Pao poeba 06:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

As for licensing, it just depends on where they are coming from. Uploading each under that chapter name sounds fine. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 15:28, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Needless comparisons

Well, i guess you have your work cut out for you. Be sure to delete them all so you don't look biassed! :) SuperTron500 (talk) 00:44, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, i'll report them to you instead of deleting them myself, as you are so much more valuable to the wiki community than i am; Especially with your socalled "advanced understanding of the Dragon Ball Universe". SuperTron500 (talk) 00:54, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Actually deleting them yourself on sight would be more helpful, and in fact quicker, for both you and myself. Also, I have no idea what "bias" you could be referring to. Like, literally no idea. Could you specify what my alleged bias is with respect to comparisons? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:00, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, i'd rather report them to you since you are important and i am not... Apparently... :P SuperTron500 (talk) 16:02, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

When was it said you are not important tot his Wiki?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:26, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Silver Sinspawn

Meh, I don't particularly want to tell you this as there is no point but he requested I did. Silver Sinspawn told me across msn that he didn't care if you have banned him and he is not coming back, so he wants a permanent ban. He also said he is working on a rivalry Wiki because everything is "wrong" on ours. I told him there was no point in me telling you but... And I know, there was no point in that but :|  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:29, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I know it might be touchy at this point, but if he does create a rival wiki, could you find out what it's called or get a link to it? I see no reason why we can't try and learn from the situation. I'm rather interested to see what all of these people he keeps talking about actually think we are getting wrong. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 08:27, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

It's like 10 people on an old forum talking about how "they" are making a new wiki. From what I read, none of the individuals there are actually doing it, they just keep telling one another that there are others on the site who are. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 13:44, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can find out. He even asked me to join them because all of our Wiki is wrong apparently. And he said that they have actually got round to making it now.  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:03, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

He's just angry about the tertiary page existing. He launched a constant stream of lies for like a week, starting vandalizing pages out of spite, and then left the wiki claiming that, even though he has contributed for several years, our info is "mostly wrong." I would just ignore anything he says. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 16:45, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

any 1 know wot dis new wiki is called Majin-VegetaTheDarkPrinceReturns!1123983673 ajinVegeta 19:30, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't exist. No one has made one (yet). -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:38, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Wow. I've been reading through the Daizenshuu EX Forums about them creating their own Wiki. They go ON AND ON without ever really deciding anything. I love their main reason: It would be a lot of work... :P I don't think this will ever happen. Most of the "Problems" they have spouted about this Wiki are things like having the English Names instead of Japanese, or using the FUNimation dub, or "dissing" Viz (Not sure where they got that) and their translations. But what kind of a world would this be if bored people couldn't complain about things on the internet somewhere else on the internet :P. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 21:11, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with you both, and I also read those forums. They make me laugh, their reasons for us being wrong LOL. Dissing Viz? :P.  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

so is sinspawn permanantly banned.Majin-VegetaTheDarkPrinceReturns!1123983673 ajinVegeta 14:01, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

No, he was just temporarily banned for using profanity and blanking the World Trade Organization article. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:45, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

hey, i mean im mad!!

but do u see what they r doing 2 anime —This unsigned comment was made by Coizan1996gohan (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

you have 2 do somethin about it —This unsigned comment was made by Coizan1996gohan (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

What? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 07:19, April 24, 2010 (UTC)


If it needs to make money to be an Occupation how do you explain Master Roshi, Frieza, and several others having Occupations??? What's more, in the Japanese dub Kami calls himself a martial artist. You act like you know it all but you don't. This is exactly the attitude i'm talking about. You guys remove what you don't like and keep what you do like. No wonder people want another DB Wiki, it's because they can't stand you guys (the admins), and i don't blame them, because i know how you guys are. Prove you're not crooked, and delete everyone's Occupation that doesn't make money (i doubt you will, i know how you guys are). SuperTron500 (talk) 15:46, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Master Roshi and Frieza have occupations because theirs make money. Now please stop harassing me about my "bias", which you have still not explained. I like when true things are in are in articles, and I don't like when false things, speculation, vandalism, etc. are in articles. If you think there is some other, secretly malicious deciding factor, then let me know what it is so I can set you straight.
As for deleting everyone's occupation that doesn't make money, I have for the ones that I have seen. It would be highly unfair of you to expect a single member of the community to be responsible for all the content of every article. Instead, I monitor edits as they are made, fix the bad ones, and let other editors know about our policies (which I did not write). -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:13, April 24, 2010 (UTC)


I did not harrass you or anyone else. I did not call you a vandal or a liar, so i can't help it if you want to ban me. You obviously aren't willing to work it out, so block me if you wish... I have a right to complain as long as i am not attacking anyone, but then again, DB Wiki is not a democracy, is it? SuperTron500 (talk) 19:42, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

It would be sad for me to get banned for something i didn't do by someone who has not been here as long as me. What about all my contributions? They were all for nothing? All the time i wasted here, and now i get banned??? It's quite unfair. SuperTron500 (talk) 19:48, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

You have not been banned yet, just be careful about the way you act on the Wiki to avoid this  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  19:51, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

10X, i did not spread lies.. I was under the impression this was a democracy, i do not like how you gave me a webster lesson but i won't complain anymore. I happen to care about this wiki and i shouldn't be banned like a common vandal. SuperTron500 (talk) 19:55, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

You did harass me by doing all of the things I stated. By claiming that I knowingly remove true information due to my yet-unexplained, alleged bias, you claim that I am lying to the community. Knowingly inserting false info into articles would also be vandalism. Since you are upset with me for qualities that I do not possess, I see no way that I can "work it out", rather, it would be worked out if you stopped harassing me, or even just stayed away from the topic of accusing me of things that amount to lying and vandalism.

As for DB Wiki being a democracy, that is actually a rather complicated subject. The community made a set of policies (the rules and the MoS), and everyone must follow those. Therefore policies set in place must be followed no matter what, but the policies can be changed if there is a consensus. This is analogous to many historical democracies, but there are many elements missing.

You should probably also be aware that not all users of this site are from native democratic countries, and may be offended if you were to insinuate that the possibility of the site not being one would be a negative aspect. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:01, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

I was not harassing you or anybody. I never accused you of vandalism either. I accused you of having bias because you removed info i added yet left other user's info alone when you should delete everybody's info equally. I would like to see a quote of me accusing you of adding lies because i never said you lied. I mutually don't want to work things out with you, so no love-loss i suppose. I was not trying to involve either of them, i just complained to them because i thought they were my friends. I was just bothered at what appeared to me to be selective editing. I don't get why certain things i do get picked on, yet other users do the same and it's left alone; So if it's not favortism, tell me why this happens. Also, i probably shouldn't bring this up to you since i doubt you like me, but Guru's page is all messed up. While his pic is good, the colors are wrong and i'm quite certain it was from a one-frame thing, and i'd like if i could add normal Guru somewhere because some people might come here not knowing how Guru looks. SuperTron500 (talk) 22:45, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Also, i did not lie on users like you say. Prince Zarbon is mistaken about Piano just as you are mistaken about Kami. In the Japanese dub Piano makes no sounds, and in the same Japanese dub Kami refers to himself as a martial artist, so you guys are the ones who are wrong. It's just lousy translations in the English dub. SuperTron500 (talk) 23:06, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Even if he's a martial artist, it's not a profession. If you find that your edits are being undone more than others' edits, which I do not feel is true, then it would only be true because your edits were not as good. Finally, I already explained about the accusations of lying and vandalism, see my above response if you missed it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:54, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever, man. SuperTron500 (talk) 00:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
As i explained, the accusations of me accusing you of lying and vandalism are false, so see my above response if you missed it. SuperTron500 (talk) 00:19, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't make sense. Making claims without anything to back it up will get you nowhere. Also, in response to your edit summary on the Frieza page, I have many pages on my watchlist. When anyone makes a bad edit that I see, I revert it. I am not concentrating on any editors in particular. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:05, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

You're right, your accusations of what i supposedly accused you of doesn't make sense, and your claims don't have much to back them up either, so why are you telling me it will get me nowhere. You have no evidence i referenced you in the edit summary. I don't wanna debate this anymore if you're not gonna ban me, so do you have anymore tips before i go? SuperTron500 (talk) 01:12, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

I was obviously referring to your reference to your earlier response, which I explained, and you had no argument against, other than nonsensically referencing even earlier statements made before mine. And I don't need evidence for things that are obvious to everyone, as I don't need to prove it to anyone. I know and you know that you were talking to me (though what you said about me was false, regardless). For your own information, I have given you a warning, and will block you from editing if you continue the actions that made a warning necessary. If you follow our rules and policies, then you will not be blocked. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:20, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

You were??? Weird. You're talking nonsense now and i'm sick of you lecturing me. I will follow the policies because they are the policies established before you were even here, so it's not i'm following your policies, but the wiki's. You should lecture users because you care about the wiki and not because you want to look big infront of everybody. Either way, i'm through debating with you. If you have anything else to say, you can find me in the forums. Bye bye now. SuperTron500 (talk) 01:34, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Could you describe when I was "talking nonsense?" It may be just that you had some trouble following the conversation, and I would be glad to point out anything you may have missed (such as my response 2 or 3 back that you forgot to read). I did not intend to lecture you, only converse and, earlier, warn you about harassment. Contrary to your apparent beliefs, the only reason to enforce policy is to ensure that the policy is enforced. There could not possibly be anything in it for me.

I hope this clears up some of your misconceptions of how editing works and the role of Sysops here at the wiki. Please follows the rules and policies in the future, and try to use discussions, rather than personal attacks, when there is a disagreement. Thank you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:41, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, i admit i was wrong in the way i handled the situation, but i did not intend to call anyone a liar or a vandal, and i wish you could at least forget that part, but i'd like if we could forget everything and start over, and maybe even be friends. Lol, sounds crazy, i know, but i kinda had a revalation and i saw that i should have handled things in a more mature way. I'm not a bad person at all, i want to help this wiki and do what's best for the wiki's sake and i'd like it if we could all be a team kinda like the Ginyu Force. I'm sorry, and i hope you will forgive me. SuperTron500 (talk) 01:48, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

That sounds fine. I feel bad in that you felt you needed to apologize, because I honestly don't see any of this as personal. When I edit and take disciplinary actions, I try my best to stay as impartial as possible. I apologize if I was getting a little stressed dealing with this, but my advice is just don't take it personally when others revert your edits. In literally any situation, including when you're disagreeing with a Sysop user, you can always bring the issue to that article's talk page and look for consensus. If most people feel one way, it's part of my responsibility to make sure that the popular decision is applied. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:58, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, no... I was way out of line, and acting immature. It wasn't entirely that i took it personally about my edits being reverted, but also i was feeling frustrated i was never given a chance to be an admin and it made me feel like i wasn't seen as good enough or not as good as the admins. Now i see that it doesn't matter what rank you are, but how much dedication you have for the wiki. I wouldn't say i was exactly jealous, but i was envious in addition to kicking myself. I think we both frustrated one another a bit, but i think we are on the same page now. I hope you'll post on my first topic in the forums if you like Raging Blast or just want to comment on my ideas. Thanks for understanding. SuperTron500 (talk) 02:08, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re: 10X Kamehameha

I had not noticed that SuperTron500 had posted on my talk page earlier, I must have missed it somehow. Otherwise I would have posted something about it earlier. The way that he posted on my talk page makes it seem that I am in an agreement with him, in my opinion, but I had nothing to do with it.  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  19:49, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

No need for concern, I consider who says what rather carefully, and what others say on your talk page is not your responsibility. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:02, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for your understanding  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:03, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Hey there. I would like to point out that I am in the same position as SSJ4 Lewich on this issue, just for the sake of getting that information out there. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 21:13, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

A few things

Hey man now that you are on would you mind checking a few things for me? So I created a deities page, basically because I don't like seeing that red broken link on some character pages :P. Also you any good with techniques?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:56, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like we now have two pages, page 1 and page 2, that are nearly identical. We probably only need one, and page 2 has all the links from other pages. This means I'll probably delete page 1, is that alright by you? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:34, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
By delete, I mean put a redirect from page 1 to page 2, so you will not see broken links. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:35, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
No problem, I did see the Deities page 2, however I decided to make a list since the other was a category? I thought that it would be Ok however  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:25, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Category pages function themselves as alphabetized lists. By simply writing an explanation above the list, you'd effectively have the same list page as the one you created. I suggest moving what you had on the page you created to the list for just that reason. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 07:46, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Right gotcha. So how come we dont make categories for the things such as List of Mothers?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  11:02, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Probably just because no one's gotten to it. If you've got the time, that would be a good thing to categorize, and then you could make the "list of" page into a redirect. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 15:30, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sure I can do that. I take it I wouldn't do it for pages with descriptions, such as List of techniques used by Goku?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:35, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Nappa Kills

I noticed that you removed the trivia on Piccolo's page about being the only Z-Fighter to be killed by Nappa. This is technically true, isn't it? I mean, Tien effectively killed himself by using all of his energy, and Chiaotzu blew himself up. It's not a great piece of trivia, but I think we should put it in. Maybe it would be more poignant if we put in how the other Z-Fighters were technically NOT killed by Nappa? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 01:26, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe on the Nappa page, if you feel strongly about it. It just doesn't seem that significant, being a technicality and all. I mean, Tien fighting with Nappa caused Tien to die, and same with Chiaotzu. Plus Nappa killed tons of civilians, so it's not like Piccolo was his only kill. Idk, it doesn't seem that significant to me, but if you want to add it to the Nappa page that he kills a Z-fighter, then that's fine. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:01, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, yeah I agree it shouldn't be on the Piccolo page. Yeah, it isn't very significant, but I was wondering if there was another reason as well. Thanks man. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 03:17, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Pages that can't be moved

Hey there again. There are some episode pages that can't be moved as another page already exists with the new names. The pages are currently at His Name Is Cell and The Monster Is Coming and I'd like to make the i's lower case in the word "is". Can you help? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 03:37, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

You're all set. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sweet. Thanks very much. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 04:00, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I've got two more for you in this department. The List of planets page and the List of races page should probably be capitalized correctly, as they are viewed so often. The capitalized forms are already redirects, it would seem. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 19:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The World's Strongest

Hello. I was wondering if you have seen the second DBZ movie. If so i would like your opinion on whether something is a dub error. Thanks. SuperTron500 (talk) 04:38, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I have, but only the dubbed version, what's the question? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:57, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Do you think Dr. Wheelo being imprisioned in ice for only 50 years is a plothole? Master Roshi is over 300 years old so if Dr. Wheelo and Dr. Kochin knew of him when he was younger it doesn't sound like he would have looked young 50 years prior. Dr. Kochin also seemed to mistake Piccolo for his father since most of the world didn't know his name apart for some spectators at the World Tournament. I really gotta check that out when i get the movie because it's pretty confusing. Either way, Master Roshi was still probably the strongest warrior on Earth 50 years prior. SuperTron500 (talk) 06:43, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think you've got it right that Roshi was probably the strongest 50 years ago. In fact, during Dragon Ball, I remember some policemen who saw Roshi and immediately recognizing him. This probably means that Roshi won the world tournament fairly recently, and at a time when he looked as old as he was when he met Goku. I would speculate that Roshi may have won even one of the latest tournaments occurring before the earliest one in Dragon Ball. If that were the case (and I may have forgotten someone saying otherwise), then it would seem to follow that Roshi could have won a tournament taking place just over 50 years prior to Dr. Wheelo's imprisonment. Then again, it's just my speculation. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:58, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but your speculation's logical. I love the way the first two DBZ movies have more of a DB feel to them. I just figured from the Bio-Men and Dr. Kochin to Master Roshi being an old man made me think they were expecting the Roshi from when he was still young and a student of Mutaito (though i believe Mutaito would have been much stronger than Roshi). I love how filler material usually defies logic like how Master Roshi holds his own against the Bio-Men and those Bio-Fighters; How Mr. Popo holds his own against Goku and later Goten and Trunks; And how Mutaito holds his own against Goku. Though i think Goku may have been stronger than Mr. Popo, Kami, and Mutaito in terms of sheer brute strength but that they defeated him fairly easy because he had not mastered his ki yet; I don't believe the strongest warrior always wins but now i'm the one speculating. Thanks for your insight. SuperTron500 (talk) 19:59, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page

Could you change something on the main page for me? Down the right hand side in the "Special Content" section if you click on the Characters section it takes you to a page which has been redirected then redirected on that page. Would you update the link for me? Thanks  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:40, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it's working fine to me. It's usually a little tricky to go through the format to find specific links, but I'll take a look when I get some time. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:24, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

That's wierd. It has now started working for me also. Before when I clicked on it, I was taken to a page which was meant to redirect me, but didn't because it had I had already been redirected onto that page from another :P. If that makes sense?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:21, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Could've just been a glitch. Or maybe someone was moving the page at the time, who knows. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 13:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oh well, sorry for the bother  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:11, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki Language Links

Hey there man. Another user has started going around including interwiki language links. In talking with him, it seems that they work on a number of other wikis. Is there some reason that it doesn't on ours, or are we running something slightly different? I just figure it isn't a fluke with multiple people trying to do it within a short timeframe. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 01:33, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The users posting to you are mistaken about the language links working on other sites. Specifically, I just checked the Spanish Dragon Ball Wiki, and the English Final Fantasy Wiki. Both have language links embedded within the code of their articles, but none of the links appear in the articles.
However, on their sites as well as ours, the usual method of traveling between language sites still works. That is, typing things like es: or ja: in the search bar. It's unfortunate that the language links aren't working, but that's no reason for people to keep adding them back into articles. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:45, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I looked at the spanish and german versions and found the same thing. I have to wonder though how they can be under the impression that they still show up and work. With only one user mistaken I can understand, but it's harder to believe that both users have the same impression (one that is easily noticed as wrong or right) with there being nothing behind it. Know what I mean? It just kinda makes me scratch my head. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 01:53, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

My guess is that they haven't checked their own sites for the links recently. They probably just saw all of ours being taken down and immediately thought of re-adding them, without first considering why we would do that. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:17, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

piccolo can clone himself

I think that you should put that piccolo can clone himself on his page —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Information regarding Namekian physiology can be found here. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 14:49, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


Whats up? I haven't been here in a while so i might need some help with this again —This unsigned comment was made by Goku12 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Not too much, it's been pretty good for me. Let me know if you need anything. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:28, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


Just incase you didn't notice them, mind grabbing them for me? Teen_gohan and Me.  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  19:32, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Merge please

10x Kamehameha, would you merge Blue Water dub with this article? Thanks!! Goku ssj4 kamehamehaSPVII Logo NewSilverPlaqueVII;talk contrib SPVII Logo NewVlcsnap-2009-12-24-23h25m18s11319:49, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I just redirected the shorter page to the longer one. Is that what you meant by merge? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 07:55, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Friezas unnamed race

No problem i was only trying to get more info down.

Why was the fifth form removed? Because it's non-canon to the manga or something? SuperTron500 (talk) 18:07, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Where was it removed from? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:50, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

A user had placed a second picture of the fifth form on the Frieza's Unnamed Race page, and the entire form was erased when it was taken out. This has sinse been remedied. I went through the history to find out, and it looks like that's what happened. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 23:54, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


Hey can you tell me how to get quote boxes? Thanks -- SSWerty  08:15, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Check out how here. I would put a quote here, but it messes up the format a little on talk pages, so it's easier to leave a link. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:47, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
Okay got it.  SSWerty  08:59, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Names that are descriptions

There are a bunch of pages around the wiki where the title isn't actually the name of something (ususally because there isn't a real name for the character or technique) and is instead a description of what it is. Some examples would be things like Vegeta Jr.'s Mother or Frieza's Unnamed Race. It should probably be noted somewhere that these aren't official names for these things, and are just terms used for the sake of being able to discuss them. What do you think? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 17:15, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I just undid that one edit you made because those descriptions are just that- descriptions, and not unofficial names. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:41, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yes I understand that. I just wanted to open up the concept of where and how to put it in articles for discussion. Should there be a sentence about them being "fan made names" or perhaps just said somewhere that an official name for the character/technique/race/organization has never been mentioned? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 20:04, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

That second option, just mentioning that there is no official name, sounds good. I would avoid saying that they are fan-made names, just because they usually aren't names. Vegeta Jr.'s mom is a correct and official way to refer to her, and is not a name, the same way that you could officially call me a DB Wiki editor. Does that make sense? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:49, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I'll be sure to add that into articles when I come across it. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 01:40, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Future Goku's gi

Lol.. I gotta ask you; Do you think Future Goku was still wearing the gi he wore on Planet Namek at the time he died? I know it's speculation but i'm interested in what you think. The only time we really see him, the blanket covers up most of his gi so we can't see which one he's wearing. I personally think he wouldn't be wearing the one he wore during the fights the Androids and Buu because the training with Piccolo never took place so they probably never added aspects of eachother's clothes (Goku's gi becomming symbol-less with an obi and Piccolo's gi's top becomming like Goku's), also Future Gohan wearing a gi similar to Goku's on Namek makes me think this. Tell me what you think. :) SuperTron500 (talk) 18:19, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know, the pre-Vegeta training sessions between Piccolo and Gohan still took place in Future Gohan's timeline. However, even with that closeness with Piccolo, Goku's death probably made everyone feel a little like they were fighting for him (although it's eventually the same with Piccolo). So I don't really know how to answer this one. Future Gohan is a very different person than the regular one, and I don't think I can predict his mentality very well : / -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:28, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Forum Question

Hey there, there is a knit-picky question being brought up in Forum:Battles Lists. If you have time, we would appreciate your input. Thanks very much. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 18:02, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Fusion pages

There are two pages: Fusion and Fusions that offer slightly different information on the same topic. What would be the best way to combine these pages into a more concise one? Or would it be easier to make one of the pages cater to a slightly different angle on the subject? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 00:58, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

If you have time, it would probably be best to combine all the information and appropriate images onto the fusion page. Once that's done, you can simply turn the fusions page into a redirect to the fusion page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:24, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, no problem. I'll sift through the two of them and splice them together. When I'm done, if you could take a look at it, that would be greatly appreciated so I know that I haven't epically screwed something up. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 01:27, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, I'm not worried, but sure, that sounds fine. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, all set. I'm going to make the Fusions page into a redirect now. I think there are some format issues with the new Fusion page, but I know that will get cleared up in the near future as people read through it. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 02:42, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good man, nice work! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:34, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks man! There was a lot of extra information on the fusions page. I wonder how it went unnoticed for so long. They were completely viable pages each :P. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 03:38, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Voice Actors

Hey man. So I may be mistaken, however I cannot seem to find just a page of Voice Actors, like listed what characters they voiced, dub etc. Would it be suitable to make such a page?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:38, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

That's sounds like a good idea. Why don't you set it up in a table, listing each character on the left, and then the various dubs on the top? The middle would be filled in with the voice actor(s) who played the character on their left in the dub above. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:32, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah that was the kinda thing I had in mind. Is there anywhere that I can find every single voice actor, in order to construct this table?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:17, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well there's a category for FUNimation voice actors, but idk if you'll have much help after that, unfortunately. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 13:17, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I also amended a Japanese voice actor category, but unfortunately there are not many in it seeing as it is new  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:23, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Neko Majin

Hey there. The name of the main character in Neko Majin is actually Neko Majin, just like the name of the manga. The article about him is Neko Majin Z (character) and should probably be changed, but there is a redirect preventing it. I know I ask about this kind of thing a lot, but would you mind helping out? Thanks man. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 05:08, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

All set, and don't worry about it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:49, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks man. Hehe, I just don't want to be a constant bother while editing. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 15:32, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Voice Actors

So I am just away to create the page, should I have some sort of "introduction" so to speak or just head straight into the table?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:51, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

A short explanation would be nice, maybe 2-3 sentences? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:12, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I just realised, this table is going to be massive with the amount of characters there are  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:27, May 11, 2010 (UTC)



SiebeSniper 19:35, May 11, 2010 (UTC)


I understand i went a little too far on that guy.. i'm not here to curse but to add content. Don't i won't do it again for my account's sake. :3

SiebeSniper 20:02, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

We wouldn't block you just for that, no worries. It's understandable to be mad at vandals, just try to clean the language clean, since we are an all-ages site. Thanks for your cooperation and happy editing! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:17, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Majin Piccolo

Hello hey thank for leting me in and i wan ask you what is your opinia a but my kamehameha move i invented it my self

Thank again you could leave your coment ab but my kamehameha move on my talk page —This unsigned comment was made by Majin Piccolo (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time! Oh well i invented it my self but if ther was on Dragon Ball it will be asom Thanks i will stil invented new moves from my minde and i will not dispoint you THANKS!!!!!!!


I counted Catnips 47 22:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

That is called original research, here on a wikia site, and that is not a reliable source of information. As for the Toriyama info and sketches, that might as well just be hearsay and fan art if you don't provide a reference to a source in your edit. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:48, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

How do you source material ? Also, I don't understand how something like that is unreliable. Surely, if we could all see something, it can be agreed upon. If I counted all the kamehamehas used in the series and then placed it in the it unreliable, or does it just have to be verified by a second party ?

It has to be verified by an official, authorized source if it is something that could easily be mistaken. For instance, some Kamehameha's are used by name, others are not. This, paired with the huge number of times one would have to count, makes it unreliable. References are done as follows:
Goku has the ability to fly<ref>URL of website, or episode number, or volume of official guide, etc.</ref>.
-- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:42, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

/* help */

I need Help with my wiki Sondow209 22:54, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I don't usually do much in terms of other wikias, but what do you need help with? I can certainly give you guidance at the very least. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:43, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

SSJ3 and USSJ are the same thing

there the same thing because in the animation goku said that ssj2 and assj are the same thing if ussj is the next step past assj it would be the samething as ssj3 —This unsigned comment was made by Vegeta ssj5 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please sign all posts on discussion and talk pages. Goku does not say that Super Saiyan 2 and Ascended Super Saiyan are the same thing, he just refers to them both as being levels above Super Saiyan. Ultra Super Saiyan is not the the same as Super Saiyan 3. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:53, May 15, 2010 (UTC)


Hey 10X, I was waveboarding the internet when I cam across a very good picture of Vegeta showing his multiple appearances. I wanted you to take a look at it and see if we should put it on the Vegeta page. Here's the link : [1] BrolythelegendBroly 7 15:00, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but we do not allow fan art in our articles. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:13, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, that makes me think, is Goku's infobox picture fan made? I know its probably not, but where does it come from?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  19:49, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Not sure, you'll have to ask whoever uploaded it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:20, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

I looked for the source of the Picture and found that it was a copyrighted image by Bird Studio/Shueisha and Toei Animation. I highly doubt it is fan made since there is no fan signature. I have contacted the person who found the image to ask for the source. If it is real, should we put it in the Vegeta article? BrolythelegendBroly 7 03:48, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

I personally like the other one better, but you can always put them both on the talk page and look for a consensus in favor of change. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 09:16, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

spirit breaking cannon

i added an image for the attack a while back but dont know how to create info tables. i figured sum 1 may com across it and create it. but no one has. cud u do it.Majin-VegetaTheDarkPrinceReturns!1123983673 ajinVegeta 21:45, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

You're all set : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:57, May 16, 2010 (UTC)


Hey man, could you take a look at the Forum: Episodes and see what you think. I appreciate any input  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:37, May 17, 2010 (UTC)


Hey there man, I know you had helped out some other users to archive their talk pages, and was wondering if you could do the same for me? It's getting a little messy, hehe. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 19:56, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

You're all set! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:55, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much man! I'll use what you've done this time as a template for archiving in the future. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 22:03, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. Yah, as with most templates and things on the site, archiving is easy to continue once it's been done once. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:05, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Email

Hey, how's it going? I checked both the e-mail account I presently have registered on the wiki and my previous one (spam bins as well) but apparently the message didn't make it to me. :-( -- Nonoitall talk contr 04:50, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yup I got it this time, and have acted in accord with your suggestion. Thanks for the heads up! -- Nonoitall talk contr 08:13, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey there man. Nonoitall mentioned that you told him I might deserve rollback privilages. I wanted to express my appreciation for your support. I love being here at the wiki, and the rollback feature will certainly help! Thanks very much. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 19:16, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome. It should serve as a great tool for undoing vandalism and obviously bad edits very quickly. Remember that rollback will not allow edit summaries, and will be marked as a "minor edit," so use it with discretion. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:01, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, good advice, thanks. I'll keep that in mind as I'm going through. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 20:06, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Vegeta Forum

Hey 10X, could you comment and vote on this forum? Thanks BrolythelegendBroly 7 22:01, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


How do you create signatures like the one you had on the message you sent me?


Check out an earlier answer to the same question here. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:36, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


So I watched the AMV that you linked from your page and I was wondering if you like the band Korn, as they are the band playing over the top. Not much relevance to the wiki or Dragon Ball but I'm interested.  SSWerty  08:41, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really into classic rock more than anything, but I liked that one music video a lot. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:15, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I mostly enjoy heavy metal and that sort of music. Btw, I was looking at the featured users section on the menu yesterday, and I saw my username there. I don't have any special privileges that I know of, and I thought that you had to be an administrator or something to be in that category. Is it based on amount of edits or something? Cos I also saw people there like TheDarkPrinceReturns! and Brolythelegend.  SSWerty  05:30, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, it's just the number of edits. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:48, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


I have a questione what hapen with my edite on Kamehameha and i edit somnting on the Broly page yesterday and no is gon can you pleas help me pleas —This unsigned comment was made by Majin Piccolo (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I don't see any edits by you on the Kamehameha page, but your edit on the Broly page didn't appear to make sense (what is the Ultra Force?), so it looks like it was deleted by another user. If your edits don't follow a specific format, other users will usually delete them. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 07:02, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


Hi, 10xKamehameha!! I have sth to ask you! I edited a part in Dragon Ball (anime), about the release date of the first DB movie. I wrote July 27 (according to and you edited it again and wrote December something... Which is the real release date? Thank you!! angelus0901

I don't know when the release date is off hand, but then again I did not change the release date on the Dragon Ball (anime) article. The user who changed the release date in our article was, so why don't you ask him/her? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 13:14, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


What's up? Ok so I found the page List of Factions and I was thinking, should many of these sections have their own articles as well as being on that page, such as Dodoria's Elite. I wondered because Bardock's Elite has its own page? Also, on the List of Factions page, should the sections such as "Z Fighters" have a small paragraph or two written about them, but still keeping the link to the main article on them?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:41, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Those all sound like good ideas, carry on : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:20, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I havn't had any access to the internet the past couple of days and not much for the forseable future. I will try to get this done when I can  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  14:21, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, there's no rush or even obligation haha. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:49, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Page deletion

The page Dragon Ball Multiverse is recieving a considerable amount of editing even after being labeled with the quick delete template. The edits take up space on the list of recent changes and whatnot, making it more difficult to look through important solid edits to viable pages. Can you delete the page? I believe it has a small talk page as well. Thanks --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 21:41, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:56, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Majin Piccolo

Hello i have a questione how can i get a functione like fan of the z fighter or fan of the vilians or that i lived in Romani can you plese help meor 1 with King Kai i want and what i muste do to get them —This unsigned comment was made by Majin Piccolo (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please sign all posts on talk pages, and start new topics when you are not referring to the same issue as the previous poster. If you would like any of those templates on your page, just copy them from other profiles that have them (from the code you see when you press "edit page". -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:56, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

New Article

Hey 10X, I was thinking of making an article which is a major meme involving Dragon Ball Z and Cell, otherwise known as Shoop Da Woop or the "IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZER" meme. Should we make an article about this like the Over 9000 meme? They are both equally famous. BrolythelegendBroly 7 19:34, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Shoop da woop involving DBZ is not as famous, and is also entirely fan-made, so we do not have an article on it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:10, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Similar Pages?

While I was doing the whole factions thing, I saw these pages and was wondering, are they not essentially the same thing? Planet Elite Force and Bardock's Elite. The Planet Elite Force is obviously better written and if we were going to delete one, what should it be called, Bardock's Elite or Planet Elite Force?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  11:39, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Since the first one is on a summary page, they can probably both stay. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 18:29, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

But remember I said I was going to make pages for all the factions listed on that page, should I just do both?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  11:59, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the name of the Planet Elite Force, in the article, to Bardock's Elite. If you want, feel free to move most of the info from the Factions page section to the Bardock's Elite page, which does seem to be lacking in substance. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:18, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Template Change

I wanted to change the picture in:

To the following picture:

Normal to ss

Because I though it would be more fitting, DragonBallZGTGoku said that I should ask an admin first (because its a template), would this change be ok? DargonBall talk contr . 00:48, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think the current one is a better fit, but you can ask SSJGoku93 for his opinion, since he made it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:04, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

super 17

just out of curiosity, i noticed on yor user page, u have a pic of every major villain from their paticular saga except for super 17. any paticular reason 4 dat. Majin-VegetaTheDarkPrinceReturns!1123983673 ajinVegeta 00:10, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

He's just not one of my favorites, and was never the strongest fighter, unlike the other villains I picked. I also left out some others that I don't like as much, such as Tao, Raditz, and Pilaf, but not all for that reason. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:05, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

OVER 9000

How long have you been on Dragonball wikia? —This unsigned comment was made by OVER 9000 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I've had this username since August 2009, but I'd been editing a bit earlier anonymously. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:33, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

admin types

i was just reading the admin section and found out there are three different admin types. moderator, sysop and buyrocrat. wot is the difference between them?Majin-VegetaTheDarkPrinceReturns!1123983673 ajinVegeta 21:20, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sysop (system operator) powers include: rollback, deleting pages, protecting and unprotecting pages, and blocking and removing blocks. We currently have 5 active users with sysop powers, which includes those listed as sysops as well as those listed as moderators. The latest 3 of us to be made sysops were given the title of moderator, as we were given the powers to help fight growing vandalism and generally poor editing. Within most websites, the terms: administrator, moderator, and sysop are all interchangeable, so I don't think anyone will notice if you ever call someone the wrong thing, as it is kind of confusing.
As for bureaucrats, they do have actual powers beyond a sysop. Bureaucrats can change other users' roles, giving them rollback, sysop, or bureaucrat status, or removing it. We currently only have 1 active bureaucrat, Nonoitall. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:50, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Kamehameha users

Oh no problem. I am totally cool with that BrolythelegendBroly 7 04:46, June 4, 2010 (UTC)


Tell me what you find wrong with my edits and I might be willing to concede. LeCreuset1987 07:28, June 6, 2010 (UTC)LeCreuset1987

Please make a new category when editing on talk pages. In terms of your edit to the Cell page, I, and apparently the other user who undid your edit, prefer the current wording. I find it more technically accurate than your rendition. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 07:34, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

You're going to have to be a bit more specific. How can one possibly characterize Cell's personality as polite. If anything, his quasi-aristocratic tone is rather condescending towards those he meets. I await your rebuttal.LeCreuset1987 08:05, June 6, 2010 (UTC)LeCreuset1987

It's just my opinion, it's not going to change. The proper way to go about this is to bring it up on the talk page. If the consensus of the community is to keep/change the wording, then that is what we'll do. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:21, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Tien Discussion power and abilitiess

Please discuss Tien's regeneration with meRhm 89 08:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Um, he can regenerate. I'm not sure what you're requesting. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:22, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm asking you to go to Tien's discussion page under Power/Abilities as I will prove he could not have regenerated his arm in a discussion with you.

Problem with messages

I'm having a problem on my talk page with leaving messages. It seems to compile them on top of each other rather than separating it. I wonder if you may know what the cause of it is... It's been happening for about a week now... My tildes won't show up either... - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:34, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Bardock DBO

An Due to DBO being Canon........shouldnt the bardock from the DBO series the one that got Controled Have his own seperate article, the Same Way Future Trunks has a seperate article from Trunks?.....We can Place the same info as Bardock until the Dieing by Frieza Part, an all the video game appearnces, then we can state his role in DBO after he survives From Frieza. ( 02:03, June 7, 2010 (UTC))

Nope, it's fine as is. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:56, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


sorry about the false edit on kaioken i thsought for sure tien did it agianst burter and jeice —This unsigned comment was made by TienShinhan88 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Unless someone says the name of the attack, or it's especially unique, we can't be sure. Don't sorry about it though, a lot of people think that he did, it's just not a sure thing, so we can't post it. Don't forget to sign posts on talk pages : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:54, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


Hey man, could some action please be taken on User: for major vandalism on the Trunks page. Thanks in advance  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:44, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Taken care of. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:15, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sweet thanks  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:18, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Online

Hey i was talking with SSJ4Lewich an we thought it be a good idea to creat DBO appears in Icons for characters info boxes, what do you think ? (GotenSSJ16 15:50, June 7, 2010 (UTC))

See the message I just left on your talk, I have now changed my mind :P. Also I edited this page to create a new section incase you forget to do something about the first message I left you. Sorry if I am not allowed to :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:51, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

As SSJ4 Lewich mentioned earlier, DBO is a video game, and there are a lot of those. I know some people have gotten the idea that it is somehow more important than other games, or even GT and parts of DBZ, but for our purposes it's just another game, so I'll have to say no to your idea. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:20, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


hey man. i created a blog out of curiousity on a certain topic. i was wondering if u wud have the time, u cud check it out and leave yor toughts on the matter. thnx. click here to view. Majin-VegetaTheDarkPrinceReturns!1123983673 ajinVegeta 17:17, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


Just wondering, when I came back to the Wiki after being absent for a while, I noticed I have started getting an option for block? Like when you reverted those two edits just then, if I click on the changes, the summary says (Reverted edits by Nubescout (talk | block) to last version by 10X Kamehameha). Any ideas why this is happening?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:35, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, that's weird, why don't you try it out on the IP that I blocked for a week (try to change the setting to 2 weeks) and see if it will let you. I'm kind of interested to see whether or not you can. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:48, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I would have tried it earlier but didn't want to incase I blocked anyone :P. Just out of interest, if you block someone, can you unblock them? And it said:

Permission error The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, Wikia Staff, Helpers, VSTF. Return to Main Page.

Hmm, we didn't used to get the option anyways I don't think?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:54, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yah you can easily unblock someone, if you have the power to block in the first place. And you guys shouldn't have been given the power so it's probably just a glitch, I wouldn't worry about it. For an example of unblocking, you might check out my block history lol. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:58, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, how come you had to unblock someone?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:59, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Did you look here? It's the list of when I've been "blocked". -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:10, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
I've seen the block thing too. When I tried clicking on it, it didn't work so I assume it's just a feature that the people who created Wikia forgot to limit the button to only those with admin powers. Btw, why did you block yourself for "consistent vandalism"?

Lol, clicked the wrong button. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:59, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

How did you unblock yourself then if you were blocked? Lol  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  13:06, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

possible decendant from Goten

The GT perfect files state that he is a decendant from Goku an not anythin else about relations with anyone else in the family, the english version is the only one that states that he is pan grandson, the japenese version dosent even state Goku jr being her Grandson, so for goten its should be put as well as for gohan possible Great Grandson or Great grand nephew, an under pan it should be put English dub, grandson/ and possible grand aunt. Since there 2 different dubs with 2 different views on decendant, an Gt perfect files stating him as a decendant an nothin more, we should put it down 50 50 rather then goin with the english dubs view. (GotenSSJ16 23:44, June 7, 2010 (UTC))

Actually no, we go with the anime. Please read our manual of style before editing further. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:39, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


Hey there. I have a format-type question. On a lot of techniques we have their only user given as the inventor too. This is a pretty big asumption isn't it? I mean, there are only a small collection of techniques that have a stated inventor somewhere in the series. Could we change the ones that do not fall into such a category to "Inventor = Unknown", or remove the line in general? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 02:31, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

There should probably be a case-by-case basis for this, so much so that I would almost say leave them as is. The thing with a lot of the techniques is that even if it was sort of invented by someone else, it is usually the case that each user has their own variation of the move. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:04, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Name Template

Hello DragonBallZGTGoku said i should ask you on how to get a Name Template like his so how do i?Sonicdude11100 05:33, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Check out my instructions for custom signatures here. Let me know if you need further help, too. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:06, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


How did you come up with me trying to spread hate? I hate know one nor am trying to make any one hated if I said you are giving opinion and not truth this constitutes hate? maybe you thought I mean't you are evil like the Pharisees which I clearly never said the only thing I said you have in common is that you cling to your own ideas of the truth rather than the truth.

Please tell me what was so hatedul so I can explain myself better and show that I was spreading no evil but using this as an example of how I think your reacting as you said that everyone that is the crowd agrees with you so I showed an example to show that this proves nothing but that you must love their opinions since it agrees with yours more than the truth that Tien never says he can regenerate nor with an ability.

However if I be blocked for saying this so be it as I do not apologize but rather say that you miss understood me. Again quote my own words and I will show you that you misunderstood and tell me why it was hateful for if I made it sound that way I apologize but I do not apologize for what I said just because of a miscommunication.Rhm 89 09:28, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

How about we don't talk religious beliefs on a kids' cartoon website and forget the whole thing. Sound good? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 09:36, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

As you can see religion is important to me, so I will not say I will not talk about my religion but rather that unless asked about it or if one brings it up or religion up I will refrain from it for to deny my beliefs is to deny who I am.

Anyway let's refrain and I will venture to finish the discussion in a different way so let's reverse time so to speak.Rhm 89 09:46, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Tien Talk Page

Yeah sure, that's no problem. I just couldn't help replying :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  13:09, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


I was reading through your archive, looking for the message on how you told me to do it before, and I saw that recently DragonBallZGTGoku asked you for help on this, and you said that once you have archived your page once, its easy to do next time. Is there something else you do the second time around? Or just the same as what I did before?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:45, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

You just keep adding rows to the existing code, it's pretty easy. You can check out my current archive code to see what I mean. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:38, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Bardock's Team edits

I noticed you editted out the trivia I added about their original designs and you left the reason of "source?" I was just wondering why you just deleted them off instead of posting on my page about it? Im just curious is all I can easily give you the source which is right here:

Character designs at Osu 4:10 eastern central June 8, 2010

When you take information from another website (rather than from your own observations), you need to put a reference on the article saying so. I can show you how with one of the articles, if you like. I'll go do it for the Tora page so you'll know how for the future. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:14, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ah Okay thank you for showing me that. I was also going to add the picture of the original designs in the trivia, but I was on my ipod and I dont quite know how. X.x

Thank you for explaining also, Im just starting to get around wiki. (obviously) Osu 4:25 June 8, 2010

Yah it's no problem. And you're right, I probably should've asked before just removing everything. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:00, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

No worries man, I understand its okays. Just glad we fixed it all, and got it there. Not many people know about the original designs. Osu 5:05 June 8, 2010

Did You Know?

I was wondering about the new "Did You Know" section on the main page. The first one says that a saiyans hair style doesn't change from birth. Shouldn't this be hair LENGTH instead? It has been shown through the series that hair styles can change, such as Nappa losing his hair, or Vegeta cutting his hair shorter in GT. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 03:46, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

I believe the working theory is that the longest hair style shown for each Saiyan is most likely their "true" hairstyle, and all shorter versions have been shaved on a daily basis. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:33, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

User Page

Ok. Some user edited my user page earlier here, I tried to revert it and edit it but get a message saying the page could not be saved and may have been blocked by the spam filter. Could you try to edit it and see if you are allowed?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:04, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wait, I just got it after trying to save it multiple times. Thanks anyway. I warned the user on his page not to do this again, is that enough?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:07, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yah that's fine, it looks like someone that's never made another edit, so they probably just don't know how wikia sites work at all. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:54, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Power Level "Hierarchy" chart

I was thinking that there should be a chart that shows characters relative power levels (as in who is stronger than who), this way, there's no need to figure out a bunch of bogus numbers for powers, instead, a single chart would show who is stronger than who in an easier to read format. Painfuldeath 05:33, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

We actually do have a List of Power Levels page that does just that, using only official statements and documents. Unfortunately, there are no power levels stated in the media after a certain point in DBZ, so the listing stops there chronologically. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:58, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

I see... I was thinking I chart that had relative strengths of characters in relation to each other with no numerical value atributed. For example, it is safe to assume SS2 Gohan is stronger than Perfect Cell. Therefore I think a list could be constructed using these assumptions and it wouldn't be too hard to substantiate it with evidence since no numerical values are needed, the fights themselves are pretty good evidence. Painfuldeath 06:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

That might be a fun thing foryou to do on your user page maybe, but too hard for an official article here. The problem is that, aside from the characters who couldn't be compared to one another due to lack of fighting, each character's power changes constantly. Take for instance Dabura and Cell. Yes Dabura beat up SS2 Gohan, but was Gohan as strong as he was when he fought Cell? Broly is another tough one: he could obviously beat the main characters one-on-one, including SS2 adult Gohan, but he was defeated by a blast from everyone together. Might such an attack have worked against one of the Buu's? You can see why ranking everyone, and doing so using only hard evidence, would be near impossible. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:49, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

List of Film Villains

How come on this page, its just the villains from Dragon Ball Z, and not from Dragon Ball and the GT special?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:54, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Because it's incomplete? Lol. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:01, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh xD I guess that's why :P. I'll get on that. Also, don't you find it hard being the only admin who is active everyday for time period. Not that its the admins fault but do you not have a lot of work to do having to go through loads of edits that have been made in that day and having to reply to talk pages etc? Just wondered lol :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:25, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'm currently the only very active sysop, but there are others who would respond to messages on there talk pages, at the very least. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:30, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah SSJ2AJB is the only other is on at a daily basis. Like I noticed that some pages that I have marked for deletion, sometimes don't get deleted for a couple of weeks, not that its your fault just that there is a lot to get through at some points  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  09:04, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Haha sorry for the lateness then, you can always feel free to remind me if I miss one. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 09:34, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

No no, not at all :P. You have enough questions to answer without me adding to them haha :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  14:36, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Online

Hey, just reading the Unnamed Namekian Hero page and under his techniques, I wondered whether or not I should put the Hellzone Grenade under his techniques as I am sure that in the DBO trailer he uses it. Just thought I'd check it out with an admin first.  SSWerty  11:39, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Actually don't worry. Just found that the Scatter Shot page is linked to Hellzone Grenade.  SSWerty  11:43, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask (apologies if it isn't!):

May I ask how do I add footnotes too show the reference I've used?

thank you.

FlyingNimbus 12:22, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


Instructions can be found here. Please do not link to things like a video illegally posted on the internet, though. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 12:38, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the belated reply! Thanks so much for the help though, I'll have some experiments with it later(don't worry, I won't be saving my messy experiments on this site though!). I'm really sorry about the link, it's just that I've tried edit pages before elsewhere and some were undone because "there are no evidence", so I thought I'd try give evidence for this first edit just in case...(but evidently failed big time.xD). Apologies I'm such a newbie to this whole thing! @_@.
FlyingNimbus 22:09, June 19, 2010 (UTC)FlyingNimbus


Hey 10X Kamehameha!

This is Gotenisawesome. I've noticed that much of the site has lost pictures that were once there. Not only on this wikia, but in every wikia, I believe that we should put these pictures back. The more pictures, the better.

How do you mean pictures have been lost? And not always, sometimes if there are too many pictures on a page, it can make it look unorganised and messy  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:00, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what pictures you're talking about. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:47, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

DBE Sequel

James Masters has pretty much said the movie has been postponed or canceled. The IMBb or whatever is not trustworthy as anyone with an account can edit it and has been there since before the first Movie was released. Proof? At one time they claimed 50cent was gonna be a voice actor for something in the Legend of the Zelda playing as Epona's voice, and yeah we know that was wrong.If you want a sequel section than you must add a sentence or two talking about how filming has been postponed or canceled based on what James Master has said.Umishiru 08:24, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's Over 9000!

Can we consider a page lock on the It's Over 9000! page, its becoming a very high traffic area recently, would you agree?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:49, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

That's what we would do it the problem were vandalism, people adding nonsense, etc. However, it seems to me like the actual issue is legitimate confusion from people trying to be constructive, so it's probably a matter best resolved on the talk page. As for the Dragon Ball Kai and Z Kai quotes, I've only seen the Japanese version, so you guys will have to sort this one out. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:40, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Most of the time, it is people changing the quotes to something else, then someone else will come along and change the exact same quote. How come you have only seen the Japanese version? :O  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  08:44, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I just have basic cable, so I don't get the nicktoons network. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:58, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh I see, and I guess its not the same as watching it online?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  09:00, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'll probably get around to watching it online in English, but I'll wait until it's done it Japanese. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 09:02, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is the Japanese version aired on TV? Which channel?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  09:03, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

On tv in Japan probably, but I watch online. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 09:26, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Don't you find it annoying watching in Japanese? :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  09:52, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yah kinda, but it's further ahead than the English. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10:04, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is that why you are watching in Japanese rather than the english version?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  10:16, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 11:23, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

How many episodes are they ahead anyways?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  11:45, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Japan is ahead by 44 episodes (16 vs. 60). -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 11:52, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Woah! I thought it would be something like 5 or 10 episodes :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  11:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I would just wait, if that were the case. I mean Japan was showing Kai before it was even officially set to be dubbed in English. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 12:01, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! Im such an idiot! I knew exactly what you were talking about but I forgot about Dragon Ball Kai :P I have no idea why I did that  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  12:15, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Changed Pages

Don't know why my edits for Pilaf's Castle and Gun were reverted. I just reworded some the poor grammar on both of those pages. However, I kept all the information intact. It obviously has nothing to do with not having a username like I first thought. Btw, sorry for all the edits on this page, I'm kinda new to this

Firstly, please remember to sign posts using 4 tildes. Secondly why would we revert your edits just because you were an anonymous user? And the edits you made were poorly worded. Sorry 10X Kamehameha  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:16, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, fair enough I guess. Mucho2 21:21, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your cooperation, by accepting it and moving on. Be sure to let me know if theres anything else I can do for you on my own talk page. Thanks  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:23, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Planet Trade Organization

Hi there. PrinceZarbon and I have each reverted the edits of a user on the Planet Trade Organization page. I brought the issue up on his talk page and in my summaries for editing, but he has failed to respond to either, continuing to add in the information. Normally I'd be willing to talk about the validity of his addition, but it does not seem that he is in the mood to talk about anything. Could you please block that IP address? It's User: Thank you. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 19:33, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind. PZ got it.  :P --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 19:39, June 14, 2010 (UTC)


I noticed DragonBallZGTGoku, moving all the directories on characters pages, further down the page. But don't you think it looks better the other way? King Kai is just one of the pages I looked at, but try it back where it was, I think it looks better?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:28, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, idk why he moved those, I'll ask him to put them back. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:32, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Would the Directory of Z-Fighters Support be suitable for Android 8, since he never actually fights in Dragon Ball Z, when the Z-Fighters was first formed? Also is it okay to leave a line between the coding for infobox's and the main body of the article, as it makes it much easier to read, or would it be considered a line break?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:07, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Not sure, see what it looks like and just use your best judgment. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:14, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't actually create any white space in the appearance of the article it just makes the coding easier to read  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:25, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Then it doesn't really matter, either way is fine. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cool thanks  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:28, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


can SSJ4Lewich (may be spelt differently) continuously delete my edits?

Correctly spelt, just with a space between SSJ4 and Lewich. Also I did reverted your edits because they were speculation. We don't include speculation on this Wiki. If you don't understand, then look at what you wrote. You said "although it is unconfirmed" which immediatly makes me believe it to be speculation  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:07, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


The directories should be the first thing on a page, even above quotes, can you please put back the ones you moved? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:33, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean in terms of coding or in terms of appearance?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  15:06, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
And no worries, I already got them for you  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  16:11, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'm a little confused, but this would be a good chance to figure it out. I have been moving the directories and quotes below the Infoboxes for a while now. My reason for that has been that the infobox becomes shifted down and leaves an awkward blank space above it when the quote and directory is above it in the code. Moving them below the Infoboxes moves the infobox up, but still leaves the Directory and quotes visually above everything. Do you want me to move the actual CODE above the infobox, or did I mistakenly put some quotes or disambiguations above the directories? --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 01:16, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The problem was just that. You had moved many of the directories code below the quotes, which in turn, made the quote boxes cover some of the directories. I also think he means in terms of coding too, but im not sure. In my opinion, the directories should be first in terms of coding and then the infobox, im not sure how everyone else feels on this however?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:31, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting. I've always thought it looks a little weird with the directories first in coding. The infobox is dropped down and kinda awkward. And I really thing the quotes should be below the infoboxes in the code. That pushes it WAY down. Think we should ask the community about this one on a Forum, or shall I just reiterate these questions to his talk page? Actually, why don't I just go ahead and do that first. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 16:38, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The main thing is to keep the directories above the quotes, the infobox/directory spacing is not as big of an issue. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I moved all the directories for characters and techniques back to the top of the coding, is that ok?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Spam Filter

I'm not sure what is going on, but when I tried adding a period to the end of the single sentence in the trivia section of the Piccolo's Return page, a page came up saying my edit had been blocked by the spam filter. Can you let me know what exactly this means? Hehe, I wasn't aware that periods at the end of sentences was spam :P. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 16:58, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

....And then almost immediately after this, a user was able to creat a page devoted entirely to spam. I'm wondering if the Spam Filter works at all :P. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku  Goku ssj4 gt-openingTalk Contributions. 17:01, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's a wikia central thing, we don't control that unfortunately. Mostly it just blocks specific website links. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Lol

I know! I was hoping you wouldn't notice. I knew as soon as I pressed the save button I was like phail! :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  20:40, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, ok

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What? Please sign all posts on talk pages. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think the user is referring to the section "Question" from earlier on your talk page  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:28, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's true about the Old Kai quote, I'm looking into it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:32, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Potara Fusion

I know this is true, it was me that added the earlier line in. But don't you think the second scentence is speculation of a sort?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

10X, read this before you look into itttt!!!! :P  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  21:38, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I really hate when people say things like "most fans think...", because it's not like there was a poll or something about what most Dragon Ball fans think, but just saying many people in that case is fine, because its a relative term. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:47, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I just don't like saying things on here, unless they are certain you know?  SSJ4 Lewich  talk  contribs  07:30, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


How's it been? Just wondering, how have i been doing lately? I've been trying not to add useless info. SuperTron500 (talk) 22:38, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's been good, thanks, you? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:48, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
A tad excited about Raging Blast 2. I can't imagine who the brand new characters are, i just hope it doesn't turn out to be something goofy. I know most people don't like DB characters but i miss the nostalgia factor of the DB Saga in Tenkaichi 3, especially fighting King Piccolo as Kid Goku. Most, i noticed, complain DB characters can't fly but at least King Piccolo could. Will you be bummed about any DB or DBGT characters? SuperTron500 (talk) 00:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I like a ton of the DB and GT characters, but I too am a little annoyed when I get a character who can't fly in a random match. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:27, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I hear you, but that was the beauty of flight capsules. I do think Health meters for DB characters needs updated a bit. SuperTron500 (talk) 00:48, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Which games had flight capsules? Those sound awesome. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:51, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Tenkaichi 3. Probably my 3rd top favorite along with Tenkaichi 2 and the very first Budokai. Some people think Teen Goku and Teen Piccolo are wastes but we never see Goku use the Feet Kamehameha or Piccolo use his giant form in DBZ (though them both using those respective attacks against Raditz might've been kinda neat. SuperTron500 (talk) 00:56, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
And i hope they don't overlook weaker serious charcters like King Piccolo, Tambourine, and Drum for gag characters like Abo and Kado. Um, it can be argued Drum is a gag character but i don't think so. SuperTron500 (talk) 01:03, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, serious characters are more welcome than the minor characters they sometimes throw in. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:17, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong, minor characters can be fun to beat up on sometimes, i just would prefer serious characters comming first. I personally don't mind if it takes another year or two for Abo, Kado, or even that long to get Hercule back. In Tenkaichi 3 i used to beat up Hercule with Nam. Nam was purposely designed to be stronger than Hercule in the game but who do you think would win if the two actually fought in the story? I mean... Hercule's supposed to be strong for a human but we never see him doing anything Nam probably couldn't do, plus Nam is a fearless fighter and can use his senses in a jam so maybe that would give Nam an edge. SuperTron500 (talk) 01:27, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'd probably say Hercule would win. Aside from Z fighters and the like, humanity seems to generally get stronger in the series, in terms of technology, intelligence, etc. Since Hercule is the legit world champion for awhile, while Nam never is, I'd go with Hercule for the win. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:41, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I couldn't understand why Hercule couldn't even do Nam much damage in Tenkaichi 3, they ought to fix that. It's just speculation but i think Nam might have stood a good chance of winning if not for Master Roshi, Goku, and maybe Krillin. But maybe Hercule's even stronger than Master Roshi, in his elderly base form at least. Teen Tien from the 22nd Tournament vs Hercule would be a more interesting matchup though. SuperTron500 (talk) 01:57, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I feel like Roshi could probably beat Hercule, but just because Roshi has had hundreds of years of training. I mean it took him 50 years to the learn the Kamehameha. Hercule doesn't even look fifty years old! Haha. Roshi wins because of training, in my opinion. Tien would definitely be a good fight. Since Tien can "fly" at that point, I think Hercule having that jet pack would be a good balance. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:16, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

DB/Z/GT Boxsets

Sorry to create a new topic but this is not really related. I'm kinda disappointed the DBZ season boxsets have different frames from the DB and DBGT ones, i wanted to watch the story from start to finish but different frames will be odd. SuperTron500 (talk) 02:20, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean frames? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:58, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well, DB and DBGT season sets have fullscreen and the DBZ ones are widescreen, are they not? SuperTron500 (talk) 03:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds kind of annoying. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:10, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
Hmm. I wonder if i should just buy the sets and ignore it or wait and see if they'll translate DB and DBGT. I trust your opinion, what do you think i should do? Also, i can't decide if Furnace of Eight Divisions should be listed as part of the Other World - Should i just let DragonBallZGTGoku's revision be? He's our friend but there's some kind of connection, since Grandpa Gohan is there. SuperTron500 (talk) 11:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Idk about future plans for sets, but the Furnace is on Earth, so I think it's fine to list it separately from Other World. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:25, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, i knew you'd say that. Anyway, Granpa Gohan's presence and the fact Goku can't summon the Nimbus are the best examples it's not in Other World. Also, just wondering... Have you ever removed/reverted/edited an admin's edits? SuperTron500 (talk) 01:57, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, it's perfectly fine to do so if you have justification. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:15, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


Is it worth listing Melee's race as possibly Makaioshin like how it is in Dabura and Shula's page? Just wondering because Melee has Kai features like Shula and Dabura. SuperTron500 (talk) 12:10, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Makaioshin apparently means "Demon King," so since she's a female, I would say no. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:24, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
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