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Hi, welcome to Dragon Ball Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User:10X Kamehameha page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- PrinceZarbon (Talk) 00:10, 11 August 2009

RE: Recent edits

Sorry I was working on another article, but yeah I suppose it wouldn't hurt to make a note about that. I'm not sure if it should be written on the dub page or simply noted in List of inconsistencies in Dragon Ball.
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02:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
That's okay, it looks like you were busy. Anyway, I figure it belongs in the dub page, since it's a dubbing error, not an existing plot hole in the manga or Japanese anime. That's why I made the note on the dub page, under it's own subsection. -- 02:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
True, good point, guess I overlooked that.
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02:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Not a problem, mind if I go replace it? -- 02:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Sure thing, I'd put it under a "Trivia" section, as it technically would be a piece of trivia.
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02:19, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Done. -- 02:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I made a small tweak, let me know what you think of the change, it's not very drastic just clears it up a tad.
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02:25, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Er, they never cleared that up. After Goku appears (after the wish is made that does/doesn't bring him back to life), they never speak of whether or not he had been dead. Frieza thinks he was, but that doesn't help, lol. -- 02:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, Goku would have most likely mentioned if he had been killed, and after his return to Earth he was questioned about how he survived and responded by saying something along the lines of "Well I would have been if I wasn't able to find a space ship". I'd say that's a pretty good indication that he did not die at any point on Namek.
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02:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I remember Goku explaining how he escaped from Namek when it was destroyed, but nothing about dying or not during the fight itself. With the idea in question being a dubbing error, FUNimation really would've needed to mention that specific incident for them to have "cleared it up" in my eyes. If they overlooked the events, then the later dialogue couldn't really apply to dialogue which was in error. -- 02:54, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
True, but to me there's just plenty of compelling evidence that clears up that Goku did not die on Namek.
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03:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Then how about: "In the FUNimation dub of episode 85, Gohan Returns, the dialogues of Gohan and Frieza lead viewers to believe that Goku has been killed, and then revived by the Dragon Balls, rather than just knocked out, as in all other versions. Though the incident is never specifically spoken of again, later dialogue seems to correct the earlier error." -- 03:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Even better explanation, well thought out! That one definitely works and explains it out clearer than the previous one.
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03:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm very glad you agree. Sorry to bug you so much, but it just really bothers me that I could be a DBZ fan for so long and never know about such an important error. I don't want others to be ignorant about this, just because of some excited translators. -- 03:34, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
No no it's perfectly fine your not bothering me at all haha. Keep up the good work!
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03:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

General Blue

I moved the trivia about a long lost brother to the trivia section. However, be aware that it's also a dubbing error and he doesn't really have a brother. That was placed in the English dub to cover what he really says, which is an interest in Obotchaman, since he's homosexual. That's besides the point though as Blue's my most favorite character in all of original DB. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:16, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay cool. It did look a lot like Blue was about to kiss him, lol, so that makes sense. -- 06:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I hate how English dub tries to avoid all these important details. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Lol, changes in sexual orientation, the main character dies, nothing Are there any other good ones? -- 06:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
There's too many. But off the top of my head, another laughable one is when Elder Kai says he wants to get a kiss from Bulma, that's not what he really says. The deal is made in exchange for Elder Kai to grab her breasts. They really should have kept that in the English dub instead of changing it to a kiss. He gets way to excited just for that, any viewer knows there's something else being exchanged here. And when Vegeta gets annoyed, he says they should grab Chi-Chi's breasts instead, which all worked out much better. All changes in the dubbing really suck. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 13:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Special Pages

Bare in mind that 21 links could be spread across fewer than 21 pages. (For example, if seven pages have three broken links each, the link count will be 21.) Thanks for working on those! -- Nonoitall talk contr 07:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd say you are probably right, except that it said 21 links when there were 21 pages listed. I've got it down to 9, but no change. -- 07:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
It looks like you're right and I was mistaken — looking at it now it looks like it's gone down to nine. I figure the wiki must only update those figures periodically. You might be able to force it to show you up-to-date figures by refreshing the page while bypassing your browser's cache (Ctrl+F5 in Firefox, I.E. and Chrome). That works when a template has just been updated and I want to refresh a page that transcludes it. If that doesn't work though, it might just be something you have to wait for the wiki to get around to recalculating. Sorry I can't be of more help. -- Nonoitall talk contr 09:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I think you're right, it must just do it once a day or so. Thanks for looking into it. -- 09:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks another question if you dont mind.

Thanks for the help. here another if you can help please how did you make your name fancy like the sigs i have seen

No problem, just remember to do it, lol. You forgot again above..........................................................................^^^^

1. As for fancy signatures, the first thing you need to do is make a page for your signature to be on. To do this, just go to your user page, add /sig to the end of the URL, and create the page. For example, mine is located at

2. Next, you need to make a page to link to, so that your entire fancy signature-code doesn't show up on every page. To do this, make another page, which will be the same as your user page, but will have a 2 after /sig. For example, mine is located at

3. On the second page, put
except, put your user name where the blank spot is. For example, for me, it reads: {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}}

4. Next, you must go to your preferences, which are located under the MORE box, in the top right corner of the screen. Under User profile, find the box marked: Signature. In the signature box, put:
Again, put your user name in the blank space. Note that this time, you are putting the 2nd page in brackets, not the first, like last time. Now check the box underneath that says Custom signature.

5. Once all this is set up, you are finally ready to begin work on your signature, which will go on your first signature page (the first one you made, the one without the 2). Standard HTML applies, as well as wiki-text. Also, make sure that your signature includes a link to your user page. In case you are unfamiliar with HTML coding, I'll give you an easy example to get started. Try putting this on your signature page:
[[User:_______|<font color=green style=background:yellow>______</font>]]
Again, put your user name in the blank spots. If done correctly, it will like this 10X_Kamehameha. Notice how it links back to my user page. There are a large variety of colors to choose from, so try out different ones. You can also add images, but make sure to size them accordingly.
If you have any trouble with these instructions, or if you have any more questions, please let me know, and I will try my best to help you. -- 23:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey There

I can't help but notice that you have been making a lot of edits recently,and a few of them haven't been..... How do i put this.... Correct, Goku died Twice,etc. I Would appreciate it if you checked something before edititng Also,could you please stop asserting you "Authority" around everywhere,other users are entitled to do what they please,as long as it helps the wiki --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 06:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I have been making a lot of constructive edits recently, thank you for noticing. The Goku issue was already resolved, and as it turns out, I was correct, but only in the version of DBZ shown on Toonami, the only version shown in my area. So I do acknowledge that about 1% (2/250+) of my recent edits have needed a second opinion to be considered "correct". I agree with you that other users are entitled to their opinions, and they should add their knowledge to articles in an appropriate manner. I don't know what you mean by my authority, as I am just another user, like everyone else here. -- 20:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: What's up with this page?

What page? ;-)

(I went ahead and deleted it since it looks like Dantman originally intended to do so, but forgot.) -- Nonoitall talk contr 06:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:The signature problem

That sounds like it would be something incredibly helpful, however, I know absolutely nothing about it nor how we would be able to add it to the Wiki. Do you have any clue how?
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01:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I know that bots can be added and run by users in a number of ways on Wikipedia, through the use of any of a variety of applications. My first instinct would be to leave the Wikipedia user who runs Sinebot a message, and simply ask for the process and code. -- 20:07, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Great job

Hey bud, just dropping by to offer some simple acknowledgment. I've noticed your hard work recently with adding categories and such, and just simply in a nutshell wanted to say keep up the good work! Great to see a newer member showing great commitment! Talk to you later and happy editing!
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01:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Happy to be acknowledged : ) -- 01:45, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Since we're on the topic, I'd like to commend you for that same reason and for gradually bringing up much areas of the wiki that needed work. I'm glad you've brought many instances to my attention and I'd like to personally thank you for your work; I agree with SSJGoku93, you've shown great initiative, keep up the good work mate! - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Well thanks again! I'm a big fan of the whole Dragon Ball series, and I'm having a great time working on this site. -- 02:48, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


Hmm, that is quite a predicament, and I'm not really sure of an answer to that. You may want to ask Nonoitall or PrinceZarbon might know. Wish I could be of more help my friend, sorry.
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00:15, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Well thanks anyway. I've ask them both too, but no other replies so far. It says it's an anti-spam thing to prevent bot posting, and I'm like 70% sure I'm not a bot, haha : ) -- 00:28, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


Just so you know,Theres NO point talking to anonymous users. they dont hang around very long,usually getting banned or just making accounts.Just letting you know --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 06:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

*Sigh*, you're probably right. It just makes me feel better to at least try, you know? -- 06:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but, If PrinceZarbon Lets you, i suppose you could keep watch of other Users (With names,i mean Actual accounts) for us? That WOULD help us alot... --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 06:41, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I already try to let people know about the rules and such, but if you're suggesting being able to block people, or other admin stuff, I think they're not really looking for one right now. Otherwise I would probably ask. -- 06:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hello Again

Hi. I'm not aware of any way to lift the anti-spam limitations that prevent numerous moves in a short time span. I will do some digging within the next couple days and see if I can't find a solution. As always, thanks for your continued contributions to the wiki! -- Nonoitall talk contr 09:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

(Albanian Wiki)

Hi! from Gokan are you administrator 10%Kamehameha]]

Hey Gokan, nope, just another user. -- 16:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


As far as the matter of Veku goes, I'm not entirely sure if he should or should not have his own article. I can't see it hurting anything, but I'm not sure if it's really necessary, as he really only had about 5 minutes of screen time. I'm not sure if he would be classified as another character either, seeing as how he technically is the same being as Gogeta, just the mistake form. I'm not sure, we may want to discuss this more on Gogeta's talk page and gather further opinions.

With the SSJ2 GT Goku speculation, I'm pretty sure he is listed as a Super Saiyan 2 in the GT Perfect Files, but I could be wrong. There were instances where when he transformed, he gained lighting etc. (characteristics of a SSJ2). However, Toei Animation has been known to make "mistakes", such as adding lighting in just for effect, or forgetting it all together (such as the whole Gohan Full Power SSJ or SSJ2 vs. Broly in Broly: Second Coming). I'll try to find a SSJ2 clarification ASAP. Talk to you soon.
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22:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for checking that out for me. After some consultation with PZ, I made a failed fusions page, compiling all such instances. With the SS2 thing, I watched the whole series pretty recently, and I think he only goes SS and SS3 in it. I just didn't want to change to article without a second opinion. If it was just some bad animation nonsense, then I'm glad I asked (silly Toei Animation, lol). -- 22:53, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the heads up man SaiyanZ 06:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Haha, no problem. It's not like he would block you or anything like that, he's just more used to what's "encyclopedic" and whatnot. -- 06:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, alright SaiyanZ 17:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


Sorry for writing on user page. Can you please help me with the signature? SaiyanZ 19:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Raging Blast characters

OK we all know they had some characters left.

What happens to all movie characters besides Broly and Hirudegarn (since he's giant)?

And What happens to all Dragonball GT characters such as SSJ4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron.

We all know about there has been no news of any exclusively Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball GT characters. and This is the only Tenkaichi game that has no giant characters confirmed thus far?But what happen to them.James-50 12:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, James-50, maybe they just figured the giant-ness was too much of an advantage against some characters. For example, I'm not sure that Videl in Budokai Tenkaichi 2 could use any blast moves against the Great Apes. -- 19:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

well I wouldn't mind about giant characters, that goodbye for Golden ape Baby and other saiyn apes. we just make sure if there was news in Raging blast from either SSJGOKU93 and Wolfclawstudios in youtube.


Don't worry about that, I already helping a new accounts by editing, nothing bad. User: James-50

other members did send some message means they aren't fake or whatnot besides SSJGOKU93 wouldn't mind about it. User: James-50
No no no I not been told by a admin? We I see other accounts that is red mean they been new and edit like the admins do. User: James-50

good , nothing's wrong


I've noticed you edit alot How old are you? what do you do for a living? but thats not why i'm here I wanted to say,im going to be making a lot of edits soon,and i thought you could help me out? --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 08:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really big on sharing personal info online, but I could certainly help you out, what's up? -- 10:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay,Well i'm Just going over some little stuff right now,but I'm going to be making a few edits on things android saga related --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 04:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


I'm just here to say thanks for answering the question on the Elimination tournament, I hsould of Answered it since i am the one who made the tournament but my computer was dwon for a while, so thanks for that and i Really think you could become a Future Admin lol. LSSJTrunks

Well thanks, and you're welcome, it was no problem. -- 22:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Spirit Bomb

I need your help, please edit the Spirit Bomb page because I added two new users for the technique, but the format got messed up, and I don't know how to change it back. Please help!--SaiyanZ 04:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Done.svg Done
P.S. I left out the bit about Imperfect Cell, because he might've just been bluffing. -- 04:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I think it would be good to add Gohan to that list, as he did (reflect it back). If we do, we should add the reflection part --SaiyanZ 04:38, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it would be best to just take Kid Buu and Gohan and put the fact they they deflected the Spirit Bomb in trivia. I mean Goku deflects tons of attacks over the series, but I would call him a user of the attack. I'm gonna go ahead and make that change. -- 04:41, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, cool --SaiyanZ 05:39, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Sig Help

Hey X10, I want to Change my Signature like Fancy and stuff. like Prince Zarbon but instead of blue, maybe Black or so. I have no clue how to do it? any Advice. also how come my User name is always Red and says page doesn't exist. i was doing the same way since i started this user and it was always blue? now its red like This --LSSJTrunks

Forget about the Red and Blue name part, i got that fixed up but i don't understand how to Fix the Sig up like that. User:LSSJTrunks

Well, it is a bit complicated to do on here, but I think the discussion above could help you out. -- 23:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah i looked at it and I really don't understand much of it? User:LSSJTrunks

Alright, well the first step is to start using your automatic signature, instead of typing it in every time. After your comments, put for tildes, like this:
I am commenting on the Wiki. ~~~~
Try that out. -- 01:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Not sure i understand but ill try ~~~~ like this?


Yes, but without the nowiki part, that was just to show you what it looks like when you type it. Just do the 4 tildes. -- 00:21, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

do i put anything in between like my name <LSSJTrunks> 01:34, September 2, 2009 (UTC)</LSSJTrunks>/ Sorry i'm not good at computers. User:LSSJTrunks

Nope, you did it correctly in the middle there, where your IP came up. Try it again, and sign it at the end the same way (where your IP address, followed by the date appeared after you saved the page. -- 01:41, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Vegeta and Super Saiyan4

Vegeta himself said unlike Goku, he cannot transform into a Super Saiyan 4 on his own in episode 62 of Dragon Ball GT. Thljcl 01:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I watched the episode, and I see why you think this. First off, being in any form of Super Saiyan slowly uses energy. This includes Super Saiyan 4. Now, what happened with Vegeta is that he became Super Saiyan 4 for the first time (the only time in GT) with the help of Bulma, using the Blutz Wave Generator. When he had used almost all of his energy, he reverted to base form. This is similar to when Super Saiyan 3 Goku is fighting Baby without a tail. During the fight, Goku is badly beaten, and he reverts back to base form due to lack of energy.
Now, after Vegeta runs out of energy in 62, he asks Bulma to use the Generator again to give him energy. Theoretically, this may have given him enough energy to again become a Super Saiyan 4. However, that isn't to say that Vegeta could not, at some point in the future (after his energy has been regained from eating, sleeping, etc.) turn into Super Saiyan 4 again on his own. Much like any Super Saiyan transformation that Goku attains in Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, Goku has to be pushed to the very edge to transform the first time, but then easily enters the forms at later times. This may be the case with Vegeta's Super Saiyan 4 form. However, since Vegeta has run out of energy at the end of 62, and since he is not seen again after having the time to replenish energy in the natural way, it can only be speculated on whether or not Vegeta can transform on his own. I hope this helps you understand why your edit was incorrect. If not, let me know specifically why, and I will try and explain further. Happy editing. -- 02:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


what u mean dont start that....Gotenks an ultimate gohan .....both gohan an gotenks both toy with buu so how is possible on gotenks wiki that it sates Gohan is much more powerful then gotenks? plus there are no power levels after the frezza saga so any statings like that is juz an assumption (GotenSSJ16 05:58, September 3, 2009 (UTC))

There is a really long explanation that ends in Ultimate Gohan being stronger than any of the SS3 characters. It's confusing and cites the original Japanese manga, which is the definitive source in these matters. Check it out on the Gohan article's discussion page. -- 21:14, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

ima see.....its hard to belive though cause both characters toyed with buu so i dont understand how Gohan can be more powerful...So gohan is in the league of vegetio an gogeta? (GotenSSJ16 22:24, September 3, 2009 (UTC))

Ultimate Gohan is very strong, but I don't have a definite answer for you. However, Nonoitall might, so I would ask him/her. -- 23:30, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

instead of just trying to undo everything how bout you just help out an help fix the grammer an spellin. (GotenSSJ16 03:33, September 4, 2009 (UTC))

Since you only added a few pieces of content in your 10+ edits, it was easier to undo all of it. I figured this way you could add back in the actual content, but my hope was that you would not also change the format back. -- 03:38, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

alright kool you sound like a cool guy. so since im new here how bout you help me out first? (GotenSSJ16 03:39, September 4, 2009 (UTC))

Alright, I'll go through and fix the format and spelling stuff manually. I'll try not to remove too much content, save for the info box pic, which is really blurry. If you can find a better quality version, feel free to use that. -- 03:41, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

alright let me know when your done. (GotenSSJ16 03:45, September 4, 2009 (UTC))

Should be all set now, just make sure to leave the spacing the same. Oh, and if you want to add any pictures, have them alternate left and right within the article. Lastly, each of the characters only needs one link within any given article. Happy editing. -- 04:00, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

so the lines thing is a rule to. (GotenSSJ16 04:12, September 4, 2009 (UTC))

Lol yah, there are a lot in fact. Maybe you should check out the Manual of Style for editing. -- 04:14, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Goten's Dragonball GT section looks unorgized that y i added lined. (GotenSSJ16 04:16, September 4, 2009 (UTC)) u know another wat to fix it.

what u mean manual style for editing...what u saying. (GotenSSJ16 04:58, September 4, 2009 (UTC))

What I am referring to is this. -- 17:24, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

i was wondering how strong do u think Majuub compares to Goten an trunks? since their arnt powerlevls in Gt an Goten an trunks never had the shot to face super baby vegeta 2, so we cant compare fights? what do u think? (GotenSSJ16 18:51, September 4, 2009 (UTC))

Uub at the end of DBZ has as much power as Kid Buu, who beat almost everyone, including Goten and Trunks (before fusion). After DBZ, Goku and Uub train nonstop, while Goten and Trunks study and work, respectively. At the beginning of GT, I would say that Uub is already stronger than either of them. Since becoming Majuub makes him even stronger than this, I would have to say that Majuub is the strongest of the 3 in GT. -- 20:10, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

True end of Z uub did have as much power as kid buu. but keep in mind the 10 year period between the buu saga an end of z goten spent of his time being trained by goku trunks im not sure bout, (evidence yo son goku an his friends return, Goku's final statment to goten an trunks to keep on with their training). So over 10 years Goten would most likly gain enough power to surpass that of kid buu (uub kid). the 10 year after that nothing states that Goten an trunks give up training (trunks most likly slowed down dramacticlly due to his job as president of capsule corp. Goten on the other hand seems to have time to train yes he has a girlfriend but we shouldnt state that, that makes him quit training look at gohan an goku no one said anything when they started dating chi chi an videl. Plus Goten loves Fighting an training an hes a saiyan so we cant make assumptions that he gave up cause we see he a has a girlfriend. so uub's training with Goku must have increased his power alot but i dought it would pass Goten who shows no sign of Stopping training since the buu saga, an when uub becomes majuub i feel that he equals with Goten, Trunks. plus he even offered to fuse with them an Gohan told him just rest up an fusion with them will be possible, an fusion requiers 2 fighters with the exact same power levels. let me know what you think? (GotenSSJ16 21:39, September 4, 2009 (UTC))

i know its not about that an i know the rules bout being blocked an i dont care bout being blocked trust not gonna be disrespected like that (GotenSSJ16 01:16, September 6, 2009 (UTC))

wow ight watever......what happend to the pics they cant be moved around wow? ight, but wat about his main pic? that can be changed right? (GotenSSJ16 01:23, September 6, 2009 (UTC))

The pics generally shouldn't be moved around. Some of the basics of putting pictures in articles are to have them go back and forth (left and right) as they go down the page. The pictures must also be in the same section as the content of the pictures. For example, a picture of Goku fighting Cell would have to be in the Cell Saga section of the Goku page. If their are two or more pictures in the same section, then the second picture goes above the second paragraph, the third picture goes above the third paragraph, and so on. The main picture can be changed, but the picture must be the best representation of the character that can be found. Basically, a good quality picture showing most of the character as they normally appear. I took down the two pictures of Goten that you had made his main pic because the first one was very blury, and the second one left out a good deal of Goten's body. -- 06:26, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

oh ok i see thnx....i had a personal question with the new release of dragonball kai do you think its possible that their can be a series after that maybe one based on dragonball online. because as we all know dragonball online is akira toyrima series of dbz stated by himeself. do you think they would take it their...because i feel that they brought dragonball kai to bring the series back to life so they can bring out a new series, rather then pulling out a new series out of no were (GotenSSJ16 14:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC))

Nah, I can't really see a new series being made. Dragon Ball Kai is probably just to make more money, both from the networks it's airing on, and and the dvd sales from hardcore fans. If a new series comes out, I would guess it would be some kind of abridged Dragon Ball. -- 18:36, September 7, 2009 (UTC)


Do you thinks that 13 and broly looks the same in the trivia, or you just delete it?

It is not trivia, as it is just an opinion. Info like characters looking similarly belongs in the forums, not in the articles. -- 02:21, September 7, 2009 (UTC)


I don't want to make false stuff, but Does 13 and Broly looks same even thier size and personality is different.fine I ust deleted it anyway.

Thank you. Also, is it highly inappropriate to delete messages from one user to another, except on your own talk page. -- 02:24, September 7, 2009 (UTC)


誰もあなたのロボットのお好きですか? —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

おそらくロボット16。 -- 18:58, September 7, 2009 (UTC

あなたが純粋なロボットのみ16、13およびセルのような —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

About that Chaozu page edit

"23:14, September 8, 2009 10X Kamehameha (Talk | contribs) (27,607 bytes) (Undo revision 111531 by KneeKicker (talk) I don't think seeing who the winner is influences his decision not to kill his best friend) (undo)"

But the thing is, that was actually stated in the manga, so it kinda does have a part of him refusing to paralyze Tenshinhan.

Chaozu to Master Crane, DB Vol.11, Viz, pg.162: "Ten... Is fighting at full strength for the first time... I...I want to see how the tournament ends too...."

I mean, the guy said it himself. - KneeKicker 00:13, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Oops, you're right. I'll revert my undo. Apologies. -- 00:15, September 9, 2009 (UTC)



Sorry, but I couldn't figure that one out. -- 20:00, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

the other guest means

English:That's all the character in Raging blast they made or this is a joke? - James-50

Well then,
これは冗談ではありません。 -- 20:09, September 12, 2009 (UTC)


I've just created a few pages: Ninja Aka Ninja Kon Ninja Cha Ninja Nao

could you complete these articles using your knowledge plus things from Ninja Murasaki? I would do it,but im busy for a while --10:39, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Please don't re-create those articles. They were deleted from the Murasaki section rightly, because they aren't named in the series nor the manga. These names are unofficial and listed in non-canon verse. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 16:42, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


I'll try using Photoshop. On the alternative note, I use PowerPoint/Paint. For now, ima heading to school. Cheers! SilverPlaqueVII 12:18, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Gohan info

I have the Japanese manga by Bird Studio, but there seems to be some contradictions regarding the SSJ3 Goku/Ultimate Gohan and Kid Buu/Super Buu argument. The panels contradict each other, so I'm going to stop editing the Gohan page --SaiyanZ 02:00, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to edit the page, just don't take down info dictated by the Japanese manga. If you want to add something that was in the English version, then it would be fine to make another paragraph and do so. But whatever, it's up to you. -- 02:23, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yea the thing is though, Kid Buu is stated to be the strongest Buu, yet Goku says he can't beat Super Buu. Same with Gohan and Gotenks, and you get the point. Do you think we should take the Japanese manga part out for good, and don't add anything to it? --SaiyanZ 19:32, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

At the conclusion of the fight, Goku states he could've won if he'd wanted to. This pretty much discredits the majority of things said during the fight. I would listen to Nonoitall and leave it as is. -- 21:52, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yea, but I am NOT the one doing it, it's my friends who keep messing. But that won't happen again, promise --SaiyanZ 14:24, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


There might of been some tense error, but did you have to restore the punctuation and spelling errors i fixed on the Yamcha page? Little Acorn 02:38, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

When I see an edit and notice that half the material added changes grammatically correct info to a grammatically incorrect format, I will most likely revert it. Feel free to change other things on the page, as long as it is done correctly. -- 03:02, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Okay Whats the problem

i just found out where to leave messages and stuff cause i'm new and i want to know whats so bad about changing bulma's picture before you jump on my back at least explain first. SS4 Gogeta 01:17, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I explained how to properly add pictures on your talk page. The problem is that when a picture is changed, editors see the change on the page. However, when a file is changed, this cannot be viewed by merely looking at the edits on the article. Please use the instructions which I placed on your talk page. If you continue to misuse the site, your editing privileges may be temporarily or permanently revoked by an admin. -- 02:31, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


why do you minimod so much? chill out, especially since you are not a mod. you make me want to vandalize just to get you worked up.—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I think a better question is why do you want to vandalize an encyclopedic resource that others have tried very hard to keep accurate and reliable. Being arbitrarily destructive is in bad taste, and if that's all you want to do, then I suggest finding another place in which to do so. -- 18:56, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

or ou can leave the modding to the mods and stop obsessing over a website that in no way reflects you or your contributions. also, the name of this post was '(profanity deleted by 10X Kamehameha)' not 'complaint'—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Two things here, I greatly appreciate 10xkamehameha's contributions and his overall help and support. He may need to tone down just a tiny bit in terms of his modding towards other members, but he is committed and seems to be well-informed and wants to learn more. There is absolutely no reason to vandalize or get anyone worked up. Maintaining an accurate, encyclopedic resource is our core desire in the long run, any which way we can. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:15, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'll try and tone down a bit, especially for new members who are simply unfamiliar with proper formatting here. As for our IP friend here, be assured I will continue to take action against blatant vandalism such as yours. -- 21:18, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, these random ip's can be a bit irritating and try to instigate problems. We need to remain calm and level-headed in our approaches. In the end, we want the same thing: to maintain the best resource possible. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 21:21, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

hi there

i noticed you make a lot of contributions to this site, so i just wanted to point you in the direction of the Broly: The Second Coming article. the inconsistencies section is very incoherent and scattered.

i would fix it myself but i don't know the format for wiki pages and i didn't want to do something out of place. thanks to you and the other contributes for making this site so good!—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I'll take a look. -- 21:23, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
Done.svg Done I cleared up the grammar and details of the first part, as well as separating the info about Videl for better ease of reading. Unfortunately, I couldn't make heads nor tails of the second paragraph, so I had to remove it. -- 21:30, September 24, 2009 (UTC)


Hey man, I am RexKai (i think) and i dont know how to login to my username, as well, i dont know how to turn on cookies! You mind responding to this on your page? btw, you contributions rock on this site. Thanks, from RexKai to you. FINAL FLASH!!!


(supposed to be a person firing Final Flash, lol)—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Nice sketch, and thanks for your kind words. There should be a button in the top right of the site which says login. Click, there and you'll have the option to enter your username and password. As for turning on cookies, that's a matter within the options of your internet browser. If you tell me what you are using, I may be able to help. -- 23:04, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

RexKai's Retry

Well that was wierd, i ended up in another persons talk bubble? Here is what i wanted to say:

Hello, I need help loging in to wikia. I see that you are a long time member, and i would like to be able to make contributions under my username and not some random ping. I am dedicated and have tried to make an Oujo page three times now. I wasalso the one that updated the sections in Characters, and deleted the Frieza's unknown race wikitext, as it was messing up the page. I also recreated the same section. I would like to get information down on some many few unrecognized characters that are not in the encyclopedia. (They are Oujo, Ikeman, Zankuku, Onion, Rabbit 1, Rabbit 2, King Chapa, Panputt, Anjlla, Zeeun, Gokua, Torble, Kllla, Ledglo, Mutchle, Nezi, Terror, Maraikon, Shlela, Rozu, and Demetrius) Please respond to my new post, and please help me gather information on these people.

Oh thank you, I am using Internet Explorer, latest version. Please help. 23:05, September 24, 2009 (UTC)Your new rival, RexKai

Lol a rival, oh dear. We do have a few of those articles, but I'll see about those that we don't. -- 23:07, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, now as for cookies, i am using Internet Explorer, how do i enable them? Wow, the search has failed me! I put all of those names into the search and it turned out negative. lol, please tell me which ones and how to enable cookies on Internat Explorer. Thanks Kame'. gtg man, cya. 23:13, September 24, 2009 (UTC) RexKai, partner in Informaton


Oh, I agree with you and thanks for pointing that out. Like you said, there are a good many users who accept the anime as being canon as well, and it's not our place to call them wrong. And at the same time there are some (who are equally entitled to their opinion) who only accept the manga as canon. I apologize if my wording implied that I was calling the anime non-canon. (As we know, it's not our place to make that distinction for our readers.) I only meant to address the fact that the manga and anime have different levels of canonicity, and finding a way to include information from both without downplaying one or the other is something that I think will help to make everyone happy. Anyway, I imagine we're pretty much in agreement on that, though my choice of words may have made it unclear just what I meant. Thanks for your input and your continued contributions to the wiki! -- Nonoitall talk contr 05:25, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

impressive progress in rank

I'm impressed on how fast you moved up the ranks ever thought about being an administrater like PrinceZarbon or Nanotail? I'm also impressed cause most newcomers like James-50 often put up fan art and facts and are often banned as you should well now but you haven't so well done so far pal.--InoNOTHING 07:53, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. If another admin is ever required, I will most likely apply for the position. -- 20:21, September 25, 2009 (UTC)


Hey, uh, you forgot. I cant enable cookies? Ring a bell? I use Internet Explorer man. Please respond! Help! This is RexKai! Do you hear me! HELP! I USE INTERNET EXPLORER, HOW DO I ENABLE COOKIES!!! HELP! 20:58, September 25, 2009 (UTC) RexKai, partner in Encyclopedia Completion

Maybe I forgot, or maybe I'm strategically gaining an edge over my rival....hehe, jk. Go to safety, then to settings, then click the privacy tab. Adjust the meter to a lower height than "Block All Cookies". I suggest "Medium". Let me know if this works. -- 21:02, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, i don't mind, you already have a "headstart" so don't even try. Good luck. And to success in our goal, I am no longer your 'rival.' Think of me as your partner. Good Luck on completion man. ;)

Most of these characters, I discovered spectating and taking notes on characters listed WITH PROOF OF THIER EXISTANCE on videos of lists of characters not in the Budokai Tenkaichi Series.

I also read non-picture manga slides, though I must still check the manga characters of which are not in the encyclopedia. Yes, I am also referring to Neko Majin Z, although I do not consider most of it to be true, I do believe that some of it's characters do relate to the timeline, as all of the Z-Fighters appear in this particuler scene, which is a fight against Kuriza and his company.

These characters are Oujo, Ikeman, and Zankuku, of which killed the Z-Fighters. But, as rare as the manga is, I could not gather information to which whom was killed. I do know only Buu, Krillin, Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks survived the slaughter, up to and after the point the available information is hazy.

Also, another thing. Onion, one of the THREE illusion saiyans links to Scarfaces page. Please fix this problem, as Onion is an entirely different person.

And so, I have prepared a list of things to do for you. Things to Do:=> 1. Tell me how to enable cookies in Internet Explorer. 2. Add pages for Panputt, Anjlla, Torble (No I am not referring to Vegeta's brother, I really am saying Torble), Kllla, Maraikon, Shlela, and Rozu (Rozu, I know is a name mentioned by Bardock, of whom I believe he is referring to the man he killed, saying "So (mumbles a hard name to understand, which I believe to be Rozu) is one of Frieza's elite...") and Demetrius (who's name is listed on the characters page, but does not have a page. He is also in the Bardock Special. 3. Clear Scarface's page of Onion rerouting, as he is not Onion, he is Scarface 4. Help us research into Oujo, Ikeman, and Zankuku. 5. If research is complete, create pages for Oujo, Ikeman, and Zankuku 6. Help us complete this great encyclopedia! Thanks Kame'.

By the way, I am not trying to offend you by the way I am speaking, and do not want to bore you with the length of this message, but please consider it. I do need your help. Also, thanks for the tip man. Please help Zarbon, Yourself and Me finish the character section of this fine encyclopedia. 21:40, September 25, 2009 (UTC) RexKai, partner in Encyclopedia Completion

So far, not so good. Hold on 10X. 22:09, September 25, 2009 (UTC) RexKai, your Partner


I FINALLY LOGGED IN! My new name is DoomKai. Good to see you again bud. DoomKai 22:25, September 25, 2009 (UTC) DoomKai, God of Doom

Good, glad I could help. -- 22:26, September 26, 2009 (UTC)


Nvm our plan 10X, zarbon cleared that up. DoomKai 14:56, September 27, 2009 (UTC) Doomkai

hello there 10X

i just made an account here because i wanted to get in touch with PrinceZarbon, but i noticed he locked his page. However, you were able to leave a message after he locked it.

sorry to bother you with something like this but can only confirmed members leave a message for him? and is there another way to get in touch?

thanks dude, i just see how active you are on here and can probably help. SSJ8Gotenks 00:06, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, only confirmed members (those with a username, like yourself) can currently leave messages for the user PrinceZarbon. He has temporarily protected his page due to recent vandalism from an anonymous IP user who repeatedly changed his/her IP address in order to harass him. His page will most likely be open to all again in a week when the protection expires, but until then, if you are for any reason unable to talk to him yourself, feel free to ask me anything you need and I can either attempt to handle it or pass it along to an admin. -- 00:30, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry for the inconvenience but my user talk page has recently been greatly vandalized and I was forced to protect it. I hope that the same user stops this infantile behavior and the useless creation of sockpuppet accounts, I would prefer to greatly avoid any more idiotic remarks from abusive vandals. Thank you very much 10XKamehameha for being cordial and understanding the situation. You're a great comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 00:49, October 8, 2009 (UTC)


Due to your dedicated efforts toward the wiki, you've been made a moderator and given sysop privileges. As a moderator, any help you can provide in keeping the wiki clean and polished will be greatly appreciated! If you haven't already, it's suggested that you set an e-mail address in your user preferences in the event that other users need to contact you off of your talk page. This also will allow you to recover your password via e-mail, should you forget it.

Suggested reading:

Be sure to let PrinceZarbon, SSJGoku93 or myself know if there's any way that we can assist you in your new role! -- Nonoitall talk contr 10:55, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot everyone. I think that this will be a great opportunity for me to help keep this wiki the great resource it already is. I hope I can help to maintain a large portion of the workload here and make everyone else's lives easier for it. Thanks again. -- 20:59, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Congrats and further notes

After my initial agreement that you be made a moderator, I am proud to say that my comrades have also agreed that your effective editing has been a great deciding criteria for your promotion. Allow me to tell you how we have been operating as a trio up to now. As administrators, we have been checking and watching most articles on the wiki. I find it crucial to note that our role entails plenty of reversions and checks to avoid vandalism. To check articles systematically and maintain them is your primary goal; as it is ours as well. You are well capable of handling many inter-wiki related tasks. I'm confident that you will continue to help us greatly in the future. And I await to see your development not just as an editor and contributor, but also as a veteran of the wiki itself. Thanks for your efforts prior and I hope you're an effective contributor but also an overall lenient moderator where needed, and strict where applicable. I have great faith in your ability. Congrats and thanks again, dear comrade. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 12:12, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the vote of confidence PZ, I won't let you down. -- 21:00, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta

What are your thoughts and feelings about SS3 Vegeta Kamehameha?.--InoNOTHING 05:02, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty excited about it. It always kind of bothered me that you had to select Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta as an individual character, so hopefully you'll now be able to go straight from base through to SS4. -- 05:08, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah of course as you probabley already know this new game doesn't feature any GT characters but maybe a sequal will.--InoNOTHING 05:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, well that's too bad then. -- 12:28, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Don't feel bad like i said "maybe a sequal will" which as most of us should know if the game does well (which i'm sure it will) they will make another game so get your hopes up who knows what the future holds.--InoNOTHING 12:36, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

What i'd like to see knaw is SS3 Gogeta what do you think about that?.--InoNOTHING 12:57, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

SS2 or SS3 Gogeta or Vegeta would be pretty sweet, especially since Goku and Vegeta now have their own forms through SS4. -- 17:08, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

True it would be sweet i said about Gogeta cause of SS3 Broly and individualey Goku and Vegeta even as SS3's wouldn't stand much of a chance i belive but as Gogeta they would stand a better chance that's why i said that about SS3 Gogeta.--InoNOTHING 09:56, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Rollback Info

SSJ2AJB Thanks a lot for the rollback info, 10X Kamehameha. Now I understand it.

How is SSJ Vegeta stronger than SSJ Goku?

Hey man, long time no see. Can you exactly explain to me how Vegeta was stronger than Goku while fighting Android 19? Oh, and congrats to your upgrade to Moderator --SaiyanZ 19:37, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't been over the primary sources of those articles in a couple years, but if I remember correctly, it may have been due to Goku being weakened by the would-be fatal heart disease. -- 21:46, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

So it's only because of the disease? --SaiyanZ 14:19, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can remember, yah. I mean, the disease did almost kill him though, so you can see how serious it was. -- 16:53, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Goku was impeded by the disease before he fought Android 19, I know that, but what if he wasn't afflicted with the disease? Would he still be weaker than Vegeta at that point? --SaiyanZ 20:00, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Probably not. After the Frieza Saga, Goku seems to have a solid lead of Vegeta. -- 21:19, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, so then why do so many people make a point about Vegeta being stronger than Goku then? The same can be said on so many other instances in the sereis (example: when facing the Cell Jrs.) --SaiyanZ 03:09, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

It's just because it was such a significant event, and it took such a long time for Goku to get over it. -- 03:37, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Vegeta Page

All right. Thanks I feel stupid for trying to change it now. I'm sorry (Banan14kab 03:01, October 13, 2009 (UTC))

Don't worry about it. We're mods because we know useless grammar facts like that, you just keep on editing. -- 03:08, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

super buu

Ok i get that you think kid buu is the strongest now tell me how he is becuase i beleive that super buu with gohan absorbed is the strongest heres why: it took super vegito to beat super buu and against kid buu vegeta and goku played rock paper scissors against each other on who would fight kid buu if kid buu was stronger they would have fused or at least fought together and even though kid buu destroyed the planet its nothing great even frieza could have destroyed the earth. —This unsigned comment was made by DarkNimbus (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please refer to the discussion pages of the Buu articles for an in-depth analysis on comparisons between the two. -- 20:52, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

hey! :(

Hey! you deleted the stuff i typed on vegetas personality. its not like i was making up false info those were true facts! and you deleted it :(

First off, I realize that you made the edit in good faith, so I don't think you were lying or anything like that.
However, I undid your edits for three reasons. Firstly, you ignored the format of the page and tried to make some sort of subsection where one needn't be made. Secondly, most of the info you added is already in the personality section of the article. Keep in mind that the articles are meant to be concise summaries of their content, and not a fully-detailed document. Finally, the bulk of what you added are not facts, they are opinions. For example: "Vegeta goes Super Saiyan during Dragon Ball Z" -fact. "Vegeta is a grouch" -opinion. Even if something is true, it only belongs in an article if it is very important, and definitely a fact. -- 04:10, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Wedding Picture

And just where did this "better quality" image of Goku and Chi-Chi's wedding come from? Because it's not from Dragon Ball. Is it from Dragon Ball GT or a guidebook or what? SuperTron500 (talk) 15:56, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

I do not know the source of the better quality image, as I did not upload it's file. You might ask the user who did, XOzelinkOX. -- 19:01, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
The prospect that it is of better quality is not fact, but your opinion rather. Also, for all you know it's fan-art, but i guess we'll found out. SuperTron500 (talk) 19:19, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

It is of higher resolution and displays the characters with larger original proportions. Both of these aspects help define the visual quality of an electronic image. I am not giving my opinion, but merely stating facts. If it turns out to be fan-art, then the image should be removed from the article. -- 19:23, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Oh well. He still hasn't responded. Sooner or later this will have to be resolved though. SuperTron500 (talk) 20:40, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


Hey I'm new, I left a message or two on a few talk pages, I figured that's where they are supposed to be, if not sorry about that. Anyways I got an message on my page thing from you after posting something on the Tien Discussion Page. It was sort of an observation/question kind of thing so I didn't want to add it to the actual article until I knew if it was true...

Let me know Peace,

Dragula42 22:58, October 14, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

What you did was exactly right. For that particular question, I would ask PrinceZarbon, who is more familiar with the manga sources than I am. The reason for this is that basing something off of dubbed anime is sometimes just something that the voice actors or translators added in, and may not be totally correct in some ways. It makes sense, since Tien can grow many arms, but run it by PZ just in case. -- 23:59, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Hm, some very rude people.

ou know when you leave messages to try and get some idea, well ie discoverd there are some rude people on this site. I dont think its pleasent if there are people leaving nasty messages. (please refer to Talk:Terror) for a crude example. VegetaTheOnlySayian 09:55, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hey,all i was saying is,i made the page for a reason,and you said we didnt really need the page,so yeah. --Silver Sinspawn 12:06, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hello new user, I'm sorry you feel that way about the site. In most cases, apparent rudeness is caused by a misinterpretation, which is what I believe occurred here. It looks like you feel the stub template, which suggests that more info be added, is unneeded, due to there being no more info on Terror. Silver Sinspawn appears to have thought you meant that the page itself is unneeded. While Silver could have been a little nicer about it, I think that he just wanted to make the point that all characters deserve a page regardless of importance.

Seeing as how your intention does not appear to be deletion of the page, but rather the justifiable deletion of a small detail on it, I can see how the comment may have seemed harsh. I'm going to remove the stub template, and hopefully the conflict will be resolved. -- 20:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


It was just a minor edit of a space from a period dot and the next line in the text D.Dark. 20:55, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

That's actually just an automated message for new users, but we do appreciate any help editors can provide, be it big or small. -- 20:57, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

hi there, sorry

sorry for the wrong trivia. i was going to post a couple more similar things on other characters page but i will not because you said it is not trivia. still getting used to wiki format sorry for confusion and hope i am more help in future. have a good day =] 01:11, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. In general trivia should only be in the form of facts, never opinions or observations, and it should almost always be information which is not mentioned anywhere else in the article whose trivia it is. -- 01:27, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Raging blast

Is the Demo version coming this week or next week?—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Not sure, I actually just have a Wii, haha. -- 18:36, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

RE:LSSJ3 Broly

In one of the trailers Goku apparently says "Densentu no Supa Saiya-jin Suri," meaning "Legendary Super Saiyan 3." I was a bit skeptical at first, but I suppose it does not hurt to keep the article for now, although I would much rather wait until it is 100% confirmed, meaning a cited source or just plain seeing the name in English. As far as the fan art is concerned, I see where you are coming from, as yes we do not allow it. However, it proves as an example as to the fact that many fans drew and depicted Broly as a Super Saiyan 3. So, this is debatable. If it were up to me, I would blank the article right now and keep the construction and new content templates up until 100% info is referred to, but I will not yet. Perhaps we as well as other users can discuss such an action on it's talk page?
 talk contr 
21:07, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
Alright, that sounds good. PZ gave just about the same answer, and suggested the page be left up until confirmation in a month. -- 21:22, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Gogeta article

Hi again. I would just like to point out that my Gogeta edits were pretty accurate. It should be mentioned that he appeared in DBZ becuase of the movie Fusion Reborn, just as it says on Cooler's article that he appeared in DBZ, because of his debut in a DBZ film, like Gogeta. I was simply modeling the Gogeta article after the Cooler one and it is more accurate. Please do not think it is vandalism or change it back. Thank You (Banan14kab 22:32, October 21, 2009 (UTC))

The function you keep adding, CanonTo, does not appear to exist. I am undoing your edits because you are adding in something which does not work on the site. Please be aware of the site conventions when making edits. Thank you. -- 22:40, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

1000 year-long life?

Hey I'm not sure if you're an admin. yet or not(You should be), but you seem pretty knowledgeable, could you help me out?

I was on the Z Team page and under the dead z team section it states that Elder Kai gave Goku a 1000 year life. I went to look it up on Goku's page but it's not even mentioned. Do you know the story behind this info?The Original Super Sayain 22:52, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, after Goku died fighting Cell, he was not brought back to life again until they needed him back on Earth to fight Buu. Elder Kai gave his life to Goku, and in doing so died so that Goku could live. However, the length of that life carrying over to Goku is just speculation, so I'm am going to check that little bit out, and change it if it's worded incorrectly. And yes, I have been made an admin, a moderator specifically. Happy editing. -- 00:08, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Dragonball online

If Dragonball online is a direct sequel to DBZ and it was created Toryamma as the article states, then would that make GT unquestionably uncannon like many of the movies. I know that some don't consider it cannon but I pretend it is and the game would kinda kill all of GT's credibility would it not?The Original Super Sayain 01:08, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

That depends on what happens in the game. As long as no main characters are erased from existence or anything, it probably won't contradict anything from GT. In addition, Toriyama is most likely only overseeing character designs and such, rather than running the project himself. -- 01:37, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Thats good to hear. Do you know when the game is comming to America or if it's going to cost anything?(Like buying the disc, paying monthly fees, etc)The Original Super Sayain 15:34, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know when it's coming out, but I assume it will have a monthly fee similar to WoW and other MMO's. -- 17:29, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Vegeta page

I just edited the Vegeta page to make it a little clearer. I've never edited anything this big so far, could you take a look and let me know if I messed it up?

Also, just before Dodoria died, he called Vegeta "Vegetable head" a clear joke about his name being a pun on vegetable.

I also had one more thing. Under Frieza's trivia, it says that he is the only villian to survive a spirit bomb, but Vegeta was actually the first to survive the spirit bomb.

Thanks for all the help so far The Original Super Sayain 15:31, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Never mind about the Vegeta page. PrinceZarbon changed it back so I guess it wasn't good.The Original Super Sayain 16:25, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Custom Signatures

Hey, 10X Kamehameha, since you told me about the signatures, I went to your talk page and saw the directions on how to get a custom signature. I pretty much got down the first step, but I don’t know how to make those color fonts on the first and other steps, so all I can put now is 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp . Can you help me out with the color fonts on my signature?

Yas ok so right now, you have a problem in that the contents of your /sig page is a template that says "put the contents of the /sig page on this page", which is what's causing the loop. On your /sig page, delete what's there now and try putting [[User:SSJ2AJB|<font color="yellow">SSJ2AJB</font>]], and then make a page called User:SSJ2AJB/sig2, and put {{User:SSJ2AJB/sig}} on it. Then, in your preferences, check the custom signature box and put {{User:SSJ2AJB/sig2}} in the space.
Also, make sure that when you alter your /sig and /sig2 pages, you're always working in the wikitext, and not on the standard editing screen. Let me know how it goes, and I can help you with customizing after this part is complete. -- 17:35, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, so where do I go to view my preferences? Is it in my user page somewhere? 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

In the top right corner of your screen, to the left of Log out, there is a more button. Click this, and the third option should be preferences. Click that, and then you'll be looking for the Signature section, which is between email and gender. -- 22:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'm there on the preferences page, but one of the tabs say, "User profile". Do I just fill out "User profile" tab or do I have to fill out the other tabs, too? 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

Yo, 10X Kamehameha, I finally managed to create my signature. Take a look and tell me what you think (well, I guess you can already look because my signature is on your talk page here). 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

Looks pretty good! Glad you figured it out. -- 02:21, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks for helping me along the way, man. 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp


i just asked another moderator this, but i think he may have logged off and i want to do a little more editing tonight. however, it seems like when i edit, a whole bunch of line breaks appear. is that because of something i am doing? and how can i recognize/fix them? thanks for the help Frieza'sScouter 22:24, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I actually have the same problem, and it seems that know one knows why this happens. After making an edit, try hitting preview, rather than save. If there are extra lines added, then remove then from the article before saving. It's tedious, but it gets the job done. -- 22:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay thank you very much. it seemed like the edits i made were more of an inconvenience than a help! >.< Anyway, looking forward to working with you and the other contributors on the wiki. I've been lurking for a while and have seen some vandalism and errors, so i figured I may as well make an account and help out! Frieza'sScouter 22:42, October 24, 2009 (UTC)


hi there 10x Kamehameha. what is the real format for the episodes? they seem to be drastically different, and many of them are lacking details (no doubt because the three series are over 500 episodes =P). The namek saga episodes are by far the most detailed, is that the format we should go with? I'd like to re-write some of the less detailed ones as I rewatch episodes. Frieza1stformFrieza'sScouterFrieza1stform 17:01, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

In general we don't like re-writes unless absolutely necessary. I would consult PrinceZarbon about episode format. -- 19:57, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


"Various canonical inaccuracies, ranging from the Kamehameha Wave being taught by King Kai to Goku fighting Frieza in all four forms." Kai Taught it to goku, and not having met roshi, it is implied Kai invented it --Silver Sinspawn 22:33, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

It can be likewise speculated that the King Kai was taught the move by Supreme Kai, but that does not make it true. If you want to mention King Kai teaching Goku the move in the game under trivia, then do so, but do not add any speculation to the pages. Thank you. -- 22:50, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Bulma Article

Before anyone has a fit and reverts my edit, i just want to say that I thought it was a nicer picture of Bulma rather than the one taken from DBZ: World's Strongest. Can you and the other admins not revert it? someone edited the Super Saiyan 2 article recently in the same way so i do not see any problems with it. I hope you understand. (Banan14kab 06:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC))

I've already explained that that is an incorrect usage of the site. Do not alter existing image files. If you want to change an image on a page, you must upload a new image, and edit the article itself by switching the two. The content of the images is irrelevant in this practice, what you have been doing is the wrong way to go about it. -- 08:21, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
Ok, fine. This is getting kind of complicated now, but o well. I'll try to edit the Bulma article the correct way later.

(Banan14kab 17:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC))


Hello 10X! I wonder if you would care to help a newcomer to understand how to create a signature. I've understood everything besides how to create the actual signature. Thank you. - RenbuItsuQiRinKai 19:17, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, the first thing you should do is read through the basics here. If you have trouble following any of the steps, let me know. -- 20:47, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a problem with the code [User:_______|______]], since i wrote my username on the blank spots and i changed the colors. And yet it does not look like a signature, only a link. Any ideas? BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 21:32, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it up for you. The first problem was that you were working in the rich text, not the wiki text. The second problem was that you forgot to write "style=" before background. Let me know if you need any further assistance. -- 23:52, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

How do i know when i am working in the Wiki text? And thank you very much for helping me ^_^ If it is not to much trouble, could you help me making the font bold? - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 00:02, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Your signature is now bold. When you edit your signature page, you should a good number of buttons above the box you are writing in. The button farthest to the right, which looks like a small, black chalkboard, will allow you to "View Wikitext". Click this to work in wiki text. -- 01:19, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very very much! Now all i have to do is learning how to put the "Talk" "Contribute" thingy's^^. P.S, you rock:D. - BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 01:34, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, it's no trouble at all. -- 03:39, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, i fixed the Talk Contrib thingy. And added pics. I checked out your code (Of course i didn't change anything) and learned alot^^. What do you think? -

BrolySweating2 RenbuItsuQiRinKai Talk Contrib BrolySweating2 07:26, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Looks pretty sweet, I'm glad my page helped. -- 07:36, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


I need your feedback here on this issue mate, it's concerning nudity on the wiki itself. Check it out here on the talk page for this episode. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:51, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Video Game Articles

I can not help but notice that video game articles have so many categories that they seem to become useless on the page (in that you have to search through several to find the one that you want). Is there anything that can be done about this?

The categories listed are usually used to find a list of pages, and not for general reference on the page they're on. Basically, you wouldn't go looking through categories to see who is in a game, you'd look through the link to see what other games a character is in. Categories can be a little messy-looking on video game and some other types of pages, but they are a powerful reference tool when needed. -- 04:11, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
Ah, ok ty for explaining Dragula42 04:15, November 10, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

Line Breaks on Future trunks page

why did you add them? --Silver Sinspawn 07:54, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

My mistake, I have removed the extra lines. There is some formatting problem with the site that adds in lines after some edits, and it is unintentional. -- 15:16, November 12, 2009 (UTC)


What u mean meaningless edits (GotenSSJ16 15:31, November 12, 2009 (UTC))

The whole point of written why Goten allows pan to win is so fans who dont know much about the show can read it an know more rather then reading that an beliving pan can defeat Goten wen she cant. (GotenSSJ16 15:37, November 12, 2009 (UTC))

I apologize, but if you do not use proper grammar and spelling, your edits will be deleted. Also, the meaningless edit in question was the edit in which you merely added "Goten is powerful." to the beginning of the Power section. Completely meaningless. -- 21:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Apology on Goten article

Hey 10X Kamehameha, I’m really sorry about my edit on the Goten article. I was trying to revert Aliceaz1’s edit, but I didn’t pay a little attention and I ended up reverting KneeKicker’s edit. No hard feelings, I’m sorry about that edit. Thanks for reverting my edit though. I’ll make sure I’ll have a good eye on the next time I edit time, so sorry and thanks again. 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

Not a problem, accidents happen to everyone. -- 02:57, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I Like [insert thing here]

Have you noticed how these pages keep coming up? --Silver Sinspawn 07:43, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I've been deleting them as quickly as I can. I don't know why there are so many recently. -- 08:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Deleting Articles

Do you know how to delete an article. I acidentally made one and I don't know how to delete it. You can find it by searching Dragonball Theme Music in the search bar. Can you delete it for me? It's just a blank article. Thanks.

Does anyone know how to delete articles because I accidentally made one and I don't know how to delete it. It can be found by just searching Dragonball Theme Music in the search bar. It is just a blank article and I think it should be deleted. Thanks.

I will try and locate your article and delete it, thank you for informing me. Only users with admin power can delete articles. -- 21:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

King Cold related

For the sake of me maintaining my sanity and not becoming psychotic, please deal with the King Cold dome color situation for me... refer to the image I provided on my talk page as reference. If you feel it's green, do what's necessary, but I consider it blue. I really need to sleep today though. Exceptionally tired. Love ya mate. ^_~ - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 06:41, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Super Saiyan 4

Hey again 10x Kamehameha. I would just like to point out that there is a major inconsistency in the Super Saiyan 4 article. Under the "Appearance and Power" paragraph it states that both Goku and Vegeta have signature techniques as SS4s. This is actually false because Goku did create the 10x Kamehameha as a SS4 in the Baby Saga, but Vegeta did not develop the Final Shine Attack as a SS4. He first used it in the Super 17 Saga and that was the only time. He did use Final Flash as a SS4 though, but he never used Final Shine as a SS4, therefore the article is false. Only the video games give SS4 Vegeta Final Shine as his ultimate attack. So could you please correct it? I would, but I don't want to be mistaken for vandalism and blocked (again e.e). Thanks! (Banan14kab 20:30, November 17, 2009 (UTC))


Also as a precaution I will explain my Bulla edits so I am not blocked for a third time. There were inconsistencies with Bulla's age. Her article said she was born a year after Kid Buu's death which was in 774 Age. For awhile it said her birth was 778 Age which is incorrect because that is 4 years after kid buu's death. I have already corrected it to 775 Age which is consistent. Also I have corrected her ages on the character age article. Hope you guys understand and realize I was right in correcting this. It is not gibberish or false data because it is consistent with the information you guys have put on Dragon Ball Wiki. Thanks (Banan14kab 20:59, November 17, 2009 (UTC))


Sorry. I really don't know how to use edit summaries though. Also I didn't know about your requests. I'll leave it as FUNimation, but I just wanted the link to go to Funimation Entertainment. Also about the SS4 article thats not exactly what I meant. It's just Vegeta never used Final Shine Attack as a SS4 in the anime so I thought it inconsistent that it was even in the article at all because he only used it once in Dragon Ball GT during the Super 17 Saga. Perhaps the article can mention that while he never used it as a SS4 in the anime it is his SS4 special technique in several video games. Thanks (Banan14kab 23:00, November 17, 2009 (UTC))

Alright, I can clear that up then. Please remember in the future that if an admin repeatedly undoes your edit, you should probably discuss it with him/her rather than just edit-warring. To write edit summaries, which should be used often, simply fill in the reason you made the edit you are making in the long, white box marked "Summary:". It is directly to the left of the "Save page" button, you can't miss it. -- 23:20, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Sorry for all the trouble, just trying to make Dragon Ball Wiki as good as it can be!

Dragonball AF

Here is a link for some Dragonball AF information, so that you can update the page.--SuperSaiyan3Broly 23:50, November 17, 2009 (UTC)(User:SuperSaiyan3Broly)


Hello, I was asking Prince Zarbon a question and we could not seem to come to an absolute conclusion, he suggested that I ask another's opinion. This is the link If you have an opinion on the matter. Thank you. Dragula42 19:07, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

In my opinion, energy absorption and absorption (of a physical entity) are two totally different things. This would mean that the android's energy absorption only belongs on the energy absorption page. While one could give an excellent argument of there being very little distinction between energy and matter, backing it with examples of entire life forms being converted to energy in the DB universe, I believe that would be well beyond the scope of complexity needed here. To reiterate, I believe these should remain separate articles. -- 22:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
Meaning Medamatcha's ability goes on the energy absorption page?

Yes, since he only absorbs energy, and nothing physical, like what Cell or Buu do. -- 22:22, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Prilin Edit Response

No problem, I thought that adding this picture would be clearer than black and white pictures presented there. If there is anything else you would like to do just say the word. —This unsigned comment was made by Gotenks (GT) (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!


How do I delete my wiki account? I was wondering how to ask since I may decide to cancel it in the near future. Apparently everyone else can make edits except me so having an account now is worthless.

I believe you have to talk to one of the bureaucrats to do that. -- 16:56, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

User talk page archives

Hey, 10X Kamehameha, what's up? I just came by to ask you a question: how do you make user talk archives? I've been to different user talk pages before and I've seen their archives that are used for storing their old messages. Because I already know I have a lot of messages I want to store in an archive, can you tell me how to make an archive for my user page? 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

Hmm, it would be easier for me to just archive it for you, it that's alright. Care to tell me how many messages to archive and I can help you out? -- 21:52, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
Sure, thanks. If you go to my talk page right now, you'll see that there are 1 to 94 messages there. Could insert 1 to 60 messages into the archive? 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

You got it, it might be a little more or less depending on the order that people posted, just in case someone say posted in 61, and then in 60 again, but I'll do my best not to separate questions from answers or anything. -- 22:08, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for archiving my talk page. 510253-3411355-gohanSS2 SSJ2AJB talk contrib GohanSuperSaiyanArmsUp

You're very welcome. -- 22:26, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Zarbon's absence

while Zarbon is getting married and stuff,i geuss i should refer anything to you? speaking of which,got an MSN account? --Silver Sinspawn 06:11, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

I do not have an MSN account, but feel free to come to me with anything I can help you with. -- 22:05, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
Should make would make things easier.,also delete: Korin's Tower?

Users in need of a talking to

its come to my attention that a few users have been making poor edits,and since zarbon wont promote me to mod,ive got a list of users that have made some rather crap edits:

  • Dstebbins
  • Dragula42
  • Weedle Mchairybug

And i'll alert you to any others

Could you specify exactly what these users are doing wrong? Also, feel free to let other users know our policies if they are unsure- everyone in the community is entitled to guiding new and/or confused users. On that note, anyone, including yourself, should feel free to let others know if they think they are doing something wrong. The only difference between you and me, in terms of inter-user authority, is that if a user is editing so poorly that it becomes vandalism, I can block them. -- 05:19, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I've warned them all plenty of times.zarbon and i talked about this. Dragula has added plenty of line breaks to articles,made unnecessary pages (duplicates),and has edit wars from time to time Weedle is trying to convince people General blue is straight.and he talks about sexuality a little too much --Silver Sinspawn 05:41, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'll take a look at their edits and see what's going on then. Thanks for letting me know. -- 05:58, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
I was already banned for the line break, since then I've been removing line breaks, I haven't made any duplicates, I've been using the talk pages... and 3. that conversation was between myself and him, and it was deleted, and I agreed that it did not belong on the wika, and I ended the convo when I noticed it started to turn for the worst. You are mad simply because I exist... get over your grudge Sinspawn Dragula42 06:03, November 24, 2009 (UTC)Dragula42

Please try and stay civil everyone. That being said, I concur that Dragula42 has most recently been acting as a constructive editor. -- 06:09, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Final Shine Super Saiyan 4

I know I have talked to you about the Super Saiyan 4 article before, but this is really irking me. As a wiki you should want as much accurate information as possible. Like I said Vegeta never used the Final Shine Attack as a Super Saiyan 4 in the anime. If you don't believe me watch the final four episodes of Dragon Ball GT again. I'm serious. He used it one time only and that was in the super 17 Saga when it debuted. So in the Appearance and Power article where you say " while Vegeta, in his Super Saiyan 4 state, uses an attack he calls the "Final Shine Attack" that is still false. That is why I made the edit earlier to make it more accurate. So please can you finally make the information consistent with the anime? I'm asking respectfully. (Banan14kab 06:30, November 24, 2009 (UTC))

I appreciate your thoughts here, but I think you may be confused about this site. We are not just a site devoted to the anime adaptions of Dragon Ball. As a matter of fact, many here would be very happy if we set aside all information which regarded the anime, in favor of a format devoted the the manga alone. In terms of the movies, the anime series, and the video games, though they are not necessarily the "purest" source of Dragon Ball media, they are all equally included on this site. I must therefore respond to you that events in the video games (aside from what-if sagas and the like) have as much right here as the anime, which includes GT. -- 06:43, November 24, 2009 (UTC)



Trash the vids and block

Yo! This guy here has the videos on his User page. Could you trash the vidos since its not allowed and block him. Thanks, dawg! Goku ssj4 kamehamehaSPVII Logo NewSilverPlaqueVII;talk contrib SPVII Logo NewVlcsnap-2009-12-24-23h25m18s113 (21:24, November 25, 2009 (UTC))

You know this issue came up the other day, and I'm a little torn here. As you know, videos aren't allowed on articles, and if you look into old enough conversations, it's so general readers with slow connections aren't hindered in their viewing. However, many rules have exceptions for user pages, such as the rule which forbids putting pictures of real people on the site. Additionally, outside links to pretty much anywhere are allowed, as well as fan-art. Therefore, I am tempted to say that videos are okay on user pages, but the official ruling will have to wait until one of the the more senior admins returns. Therefore I would say leave this matter alone for now, but ask PZ or SSJGoku93 when they come back. Sorry I can't be more helpful. -- 21:59, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Gogeta Page

Whatever happened to no saying he's Super Saiyan and no saying he's Super Saiyan 2 till official information comes out? Also, what's with taking out my posts on Gogeta's half relatives? Piconoe 04:59, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

The part about the relatives is fine, it was removed as a byproduct of using a tool called "rollback", available to admins. Feel free to add the info about half-relatives back, if you like. Raging Blast features "Super Gogeta" by name, who is known to be Super Saiyan. It was made very clear in the Super Saiyan 2 discussion page that there will be no fan speculation allowed on articles, and if you knowingly do this again, I will be forced to block you. -- 05:14, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
Well, saying that he is only Super Saiyan 1 while called Super Gogeta is speculation as well. It is speculation that the electricity is merely a byproduct of his power that suddenly appears in a game that already has two other brand new Super Saiyan forms (SS3 Vegeta and SS3 Broly). Could the trivia be at least edited to say that until further evidence comes out, it is not known if he is still Super Saiyan 1 or if he is indeed now Super Saiyan 2? Piconoe 07:22, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

It is not speculation that Super Gogeta has appeared (regardless of the game) as a Super Saiyan. And no, it cannot be stated like that, because by similar logic I could say anything about any character that isn't 100% redundantly defined in Raging Blast, even if it is known to be true. The only thing to go on here is some sparks from Super Gogeta's aura, and there have been sparks on other Super Saiyans' auras in the anime. -- 09:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

His hair has also shown changes, and there is a difference between constant blue sparks during the entire fight and power-up/transformation/and other temporary effects. Those two things (electricity and hair) are the two biggest changes upon going Super Saiyan 2 and he shows them both. Piconoe 23:01, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

His hair is the same as it's always been, it's just a cell-shaded style. -- 23:48, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

I don't mean the color, I know that's the cel-shading. I'm talking about the tips, most notably around the circumference of his hair. They are relaxed and droop in every rendition I've seen of him and in Raging Blast, they are fully erect and curve slightly inward now, too. Though it could be the models they are using. But to say that a sudden change in hair and the electricity is coincidence is just as much speculation as me saying they mean he's in Super Saiyan 2. It is speculation saying he is one or the other. Until there is official proof he is one or the other, you can't say he's a specific one unless you say he could possibly be either one. Piconoe 01:59, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

"you can't say he's a specific one unless you say he could possibly be either one." I have no idea what that means, maybe you can just find another page to edit. I've made it clear that without an official source as a reference, there will be no speculation, and I won't be discussing this further unless that happens. -- 04:15, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

I'm just saying with all these sudden changes, saying it's nothing is speculation as well. Also, I was having a hard time with trying to make that make sense. What I was saying is, "You cannot say he is Super Saiyan or say he is Super Saiyan 2 unless you say there is a possibility he could be either or". I agree saying he is Super Saiyan 2 without official evidence is speculation but you are doing just the same. Piconoe 06:51, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Please Delete

Please delete this page: Which attack out of these is the best- kamehameha, spc. beam cannon, final flash, and spirit bomb. —This unsigned comment was made by TheDarkPrince (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Another admin has done so. Btw, don't forget to sign your posts. -- 05:19, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Can you also delete the (Omega Shenron and regular Shenron look nothing alike) page.--TheDarkPrince 13:48, November 27, 2009 (UTC)User:TheDarkPrince

It's a user blog, not an actual article. Piconoe 15:18, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Pages to Delete

tiencha kaioken, Dsd, Robin --Silver Sinspawn 11:57, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Me too, I saw it! Goku ssj4 kamehamehaSPVII Logo NewSilverPlaqueVII;talk contrib SPVII Logo NewVlcsnap-2009-12-24-23h25m18s11315:11, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I've deleted the page and temporarily blocked the user that made 4 similar, gibberish pages. -- 21:40, November 28, 2009 (UTC)


Yo! I just found this fool vandalizing Jinzōningen #14 and Babidi pages. You need to dealt with him severely. Goku ssj4 kamehamehaSPVII Logo NewSilverPlaqueVII;talk contrib SPVII Logo NewVlcsnap-2009-12-24-23h25m18s113 15:16, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing that to my attention, but please understand that that is no vandal. It was simply a new user, and one who went through the trouble of making an account, no less. The user didn't know not to add video game images, and probably didn't realize that putting an image on the same line as a section title would mess it up. In any case, I left the user a message explaining a few policies of ours, so hopefully they'll figure it out. -- 21:51, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Do you know?

Do you know from what DBZ episode this image is?


Episode #104 - Frieza Defeated!! Goku ssj4 kamehamehaSPVII Logo NewSilverPlaqueVII;talk contrib SPVII Logo NewVlcsnap-2009-12-24-23h25m18s11316:40, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Someone was adding line breaks to the articles

Seriously, they need to be removed. Thank you. Dekoshu talk contrib 22:53, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Could you be more specific. Maybe say who and to which articles? Thanks. -- 23:30, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

SuperGoku2036. Line breaks in Spirit Bomb. Dekoshu talk contrib 23:50, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I've left him/her a message about not adding unnecessary line breaks. -- 23:58, November 28, 2009 (UTC)


This wiki is really starting to get vandalised.Cant wait till Zarbon gets back from his wedding.,could you talk to this user,they've been making a few Edits that arent right : User:Fashas-guy --Silver Sinspawn 01:19, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Done.svg Done -- 01:30, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Blue Water Expansion

I just expanded a few voice actors for Funimation and added Caitlynne Medrek. Anybody up for the Blue Water dub and actors/actresses expansion? EDIT: I personally like the FUNi dub better since they had it on YTV from DBZ Ep. 54-167. Goku ssj4 kamehamehaSPVII Logo NewSilverPlaqueVII;talk contrib SPVII Logo NewVlcsnap-2009-12-24-23h25m18s11302:46, November 30, 2009 (UTC)


halo im new here and my question maybe is stupid but how i can get the stars to get the new figths of the game dragon ball raging 12:52, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

I apologize but I do not own the game, and this is not a game tips website. I suggest looking for a related FAQ on -- 21:29, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Yamcha Spaz

Can you please please please tell me which episode did yamcha give the speech about goku.......i know that it is in the android saga but i dont know when so can you please reply to my hotmail please that will be the best thing ever if you tell me. My hotmail is ok so please!!!!!

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