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Hello, 10x. Could you warn him or take care of this? I have told him more than 4 times to stop inserting false information into articles, but even though he has apologized several times, he continues to do so. Yon!米津愛主!Golden Frieza artVisit my talk page! 14:59, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

He seems pretty reasonable, if misguided. I think he'll learn to be a better editor in time. Your notes to him seem to be helping. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:07, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Yon!米津愛主!Golden Frieza artVisit my talk page!

Second DragonBall wikia

Found a copycat wikia:

I replied to your post. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:30, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


The user SuperBen 1000000 screwed up Explosive Fire Cutter article. Please revert it to the way it was. Bargeta (talk) 22:40, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

You already undid his edit, is there another problem? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:57, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Enter the article and see yourself. The images are from an animanga. Undo it did not solve it. Bargeta (talk) 00:02, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, fixed. Bullza (likely accidentally) overwrote the technique images with those animanga scans, which he/she used on another article. SuperBen's edit was deleting the animanga image in the infobox, which wasn't ideal but was an improvement after Bullza's accident. Long story short: everyone was trying to help, and now everything is fixed : ) -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:11, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Featured Wiki Videos

Hey 10X Kamehameha. I'm Julia from Fandom's Community team. By now you may have seen our announcement about Wiki Modernization and how we're using featured wiki videos to reduce the number of ads on the site and improve the performance of all Fandom wikis.

For the future we plan to have wiki videos in many communities and probably also on Dragon Ball wiki. If you are interested in which video types we might use you can find some great examples in this blog post. When we start producing videos we maybe will also reach out to you, other admins, and users to be involved in writing video scripts or being part of the production process.

Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Thanks! Springteufel (talk) 13:25, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Julia. Let me know what we can do to help. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:29, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Can you

Can you rename all Zamas pages to Zamasu because that is the actual English name now?  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  23:41,4/26/2017 

Looks like the page has already been renamed. Let me know if any other pages have permissions issues. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:43, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
Hello, and oh, this is another user, 10x, u see the message from new visuals at the very bottom there is a new message i recently written, it was supposed to belong here in this "can you?" page and please kindly and respectfully read it please, if you want a hint, then its all about the problem with the sloppy eiting of articles. —This unsigned comment was made by F100100 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please sign your posts. I will read your note now. Generally people overlook new notes put this far back on a talk page (2 months). -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:49, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

I saw that most of the new articles had super-bad and sloppy "amateuristic" editing, it makes me wanna vomit, like i would be forced to fix every crude and poorly-pronounced words they made, some of the articles i properly fixed, they reedited it again to look even more horrible, while the first DBZ/GT sagas and related articles looked like been made by professionals, the DBS sagas and recent aticles are done by these sloppy editors and the way they tell the saga's stories, it was horrible, i wish you should do something about this, 10xF100100 (talk) 12:22, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, please feel free to contribute and edit the articles to improve them. Just complaining doesn't help. Older articles on a collaborative site like this will naturally be more refined. Also, you seem to be a bit new to editing talk pages, so FYI when you edit threads that have 20+ newer ones after them, most users won't notice your post. Consider making a new topic instead. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:31, July 12, 2017 (UTC)



a person called gargoyle 1 possibly insulted me when i said i was an indian, he said oh my god i didnt know you are an indian i am out so i am quite hurt by this and feeling insulted  so can you please warn him once

thanks, mystrymist the omnipotent interplanetory idiot Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 16:02, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

I took a look at it seems like you misinterpreted his comment. You accused him of discriminating against you since you were Indian, and he said, "What?! No. I didn't even know you were Indian until I saw this, my god."; this is Gargoyle 1 saying he didn't know you were Indian. He then follows up with "I'm done." meaning he's finished arguing with you. I don't see him insulting you anywhere. *You* did call him a "Sailor Moon fanboy", though, which he apparently took offense to. — Final ChidoriTalk 19:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Final Chidori. He used that expression in frustration/surprise, a reaction to you saying he discriminated against you as an Indian when he didn't even know you were Indian. I didn't see anything on the thread that seemed racially motivated, or even acknowledging any races at all. Just lots of people trying to compare different fictional universes with incompatible physics, etc. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:03, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

Mysterymist 2

hi,how do you like my contributions to this page?in manga section, i added a new picture and it shows how dbz is related to shim chan

thanks,Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 06:27, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:03, May 2, 2017 (UTC)


10X, I was the one who implemented the usage of conjecture on the wiki a while back, but when I did I forgot to add it into the naming conventions - I only remembered to add it in recently.--Neffyarious (talk) 12:54, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Yes I saw. A template at the top of an article should be something that affects the entire article and is very important. Good examples of things at the top of an article are disambiguations to make sure the reader is on the right page, stub notices to encourage people to add content, and warnings that there is sexual content coming and younger readers beware. The fact that a form's name doesn't have a source yet only affects the name, and not the rest of the article's content, so it shouldn't go above everything else in a separate box. Not having a reference tag on the first use of the name should be enough for anyone to know it's unsourced, or at most a line in the article saying so. We have to be very selective in what merits an above-article template, and lack of a source for 1 word is not enough.
As for the MoS, new policies should be discussed on the MoS talk page before being implemented. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 16:43, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Instead of removing the template, shouldn't you use talk to discuss it being altered?--Neffyarious (talk) 05:43, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

No, such a major change should never have been implemented without discussion on the Main Page or MoS. This is not a style or grammar issue with one line in an article, it's a major clutter on the top of many articles. The fact that it exists it not enough justification to leave it that way in this case. Let's focus on pros and cons. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:58, May 18, 2017 (UTC)


I misread your position and I would like to formally apologize for my jump of the gun. I would like to note that as an administrator of DBU I would like for us to get along and co-exist. I apologize for taking you out of context as it seems it was bad judgment on my behalf. And if i’m wrong I do not want to be wrong for a second longer. --New World God 01:14, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

I would also like for us to co-exist and get along. We are all trying our best and we all have the same goal. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:02, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Missed Dragon Ball Super Episode

Do you have any idea why there was never anything added to Episode 82 of the Dragon Super Anime? —This unsigned comment was made by Crimsonskydeath (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please sign your posts. It seems that no one has added the summary yet. Feel free to do so yourself. Otherwise please be patient, our community is entirely voluntary and someone will update the page when they get a chance to do so. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:35, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot

if i want to be an admin for this wiki,how much would it take for me and what should i do for becoming an admin? do i need to be elected?

i know everything about fusions heroes xenoverse super.....Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 15:37, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

We look for users with a ton of experience on this site, they should be very technically knowledgeable, they should get along well with everyone, they should be very helpful to others, they should follow the rules all the time, and they should know all of the policies. The actual process of giving someone admin rights is based on what the site needs, and it consists of a combination of community recommendations and usually a discussion among the current admins.
Also, please start a new topic when leaving a talk page message unrelated to the previous post. Thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:17, May 22, 2017 (UTC)


Hey 10X, I'd like to hear your opinion on this. — Final ChidoriTalk 14:45, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Done. By the way, would you mind archiving some of the MoS talk page? I tried earlier but my browser fought me. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:55, May 28, 2017 (UTC)


just to report, gargoyle 2 is a sockpuppet of gargoyle 1 

[here for reference]

sorry i am not biting him as you see he is here quite a while to be called newcommer

Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 16:05, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I left him a message. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:15, June 3, 2017 (UTC)


Was their discussion in regarding the fusees of characters where the fusion is video game only? I believe they should still be listed as fusees on the character's like Trunks being listed as one of Present Gohan's fusees.--Made up Character Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Page I ignore Things I do 04:07, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

I recommend you bring this up for discussion on the Manual of Style talk page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:03, June 4, 2017 (UTC)


Can you come vist my wiki Heroes Unite Wikia —This unsigned comment was made by dbzgtfan (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please sign your posts. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:59, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Slider project by Bullza

If you didn't know what exactly the latest things in the Manual of Style talk page was about, it was about at first, the idea by Stryzzar, and then my "idea" to use the sliders created by Bullza months ago but was never used due to as you said, problems in a browser that shows the whole article cut out. Bullza is currently, well not really currently, checking in that browser to see any errors. Eventually, Bullza will try to get your approval again, as well as everyone else's, to see if anything is wrong. See it for yourself if you'd like . But yeah, I'm just wondering what you think about it as of now, will it make everything better, or worse? SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 08:06, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Indeed I've checked up on it quite a bit since. I've checked a bunch of browsers to see if there were any problems, I checked Google Chrome, AOL, Microsoft Edge, Opera, Puffin and whatever browser the PS4 uses, I've checked the Desktop and Mobile versions, I've asked Final Chidori and Neffaryious. There hasn't been any problems with the tabbers being in place.

This wiki has already started to use tabbers more frequently for the images anyway and there's been no issue with that. It's definitely something that should be used and becomes more necessary as time goes on. Aside from it being used in the abilities section I believe some people want to use it now to separate the Super anime and manga stories on characters biographies which has also become more necessary as time goes on.Bullza (talk) 16:57, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

There are a small handful of huge pages which would benefit from a tab for techniques. Hiding certain media would be adding bias and is strictly against Wikia's mission statement. Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:42, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

Those small handful of page are the pages that are amongst the most popular, Goku, Frieza, Vegeta etc. Obviously someone like Android 8 wouldn't warrant the tabbers because his page isn't a mess. Nobody was talking about hiding anything, that was never the intention so I don't know you got that from.Bullza (talk) 01:55, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

He's talking about the Anime and Manga biographies. But, aren't we kinda being biased for making the manga info too short compared to the anime info? If we use sliders, it might encourage editors to add more info. Not guarenteed, but it might. You're right about that 10x, but do you have a better solution to what's going on lately? People are complaining left and right about this the anime and manga stuff being too unorganized. Now or not now, either way it's going to have to be necessary. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 01:59, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

I think everyone agrees on tabs for techniques on those articles. Picking a default media type and hiding the rest is absolutely not appropriate for a Wiki. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:01, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

So we can use tabs now for techniques. That would be really beneficial if we could because it'd do a lot for making the page better, that's good then.

I still don't know what you mean by hiding a media type. As far as I know all people wanted was to have a section that describes what happened in the anime version and a section that describes what happened in the manga version and you'd use tabs to switch between the two versions. Not something that was ever necessary for us to have until this latest saga where the manga was radically different.Bullza (talk) 02:21, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

And one thing, what the heck were you talking about when you said we could use reference notes? I tried to find it on the Manual of Style, but I found nothing. Probably becuase I'm a bad finder. So, what is it? And how was this supposed to help with the organization? SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 03:29, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

DB anime and manga have always had differences. Using tabs for media types would necessitate hiding another type. This is against the Wikia mission statement of writing articles without bias. Reference notes are these: -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:10, June 25, 2017 (UTC)
I get that the anime and manga versions have had differences before, but it was always small changes like adding a bit of filler here and there, while preserving the overall events. The way Toyatoro does it is a completely alternate style of story telling. The differences are to the extent of the Battle of Gods movie and the Super adaptation of BoG. Other wikis have separated the manga and anime versions before if they get too different from each other, Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki makes separate pages for it. It's just seems really redundant for "in the anime" and "in the manga" to be repeated 3 times on one article. Stryzzar (talk) 02:18, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

Hiding anime or manga content is biased, and leads to very long, very redundant content. "In the anime" and "in the manga" should not be used. Reference tags are much better: -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:21, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

I never said to hide them man. All I suggested was separating them into two sections so that the anime plot sits under one heading and the manga under another, without having to go back and forth between anime-to-manga. Stryzzar (talk) 20:17, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

Tabs always force you to go back and forth, that's what we want to avoid. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:47, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

New visual?

The users "SuperBen 1000000" and "Rogeta234" are adding something uncommon onto Gogeta's page. Is that acceptable or should remain the old one? —This unsigned comment was made by Bargeta (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

I'd refer to the section above the one you made to find that out. You should join us to convince 10x to put these new tabbers for the separation between anime and manga because lately, it is a mess.SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 23:32, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

We're giving it a try for techniques on a couple of the longest articles. It will not be used to hide manga or anime content as SuperBen has suggested. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:13, June 25, 2017 (UTC)


10x, please tell those guys to edit each article (new or old) properly i am already tired and annoyed of fixing and correcting the horribly made edits they did (like fixing words like the hypened titles, don'ts couldn'ts, didn'ts, isn'ts etc. to their more proper and appropriate forms, (like do not) placing proper symbols and other sloppy editing and mistakes) if you want please hire some proficient editors, this is a wiki, not some storybook or drawing book to be played with by some amateur. —This unsigned comment was made by F100100 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Please start a new topic if you aren't commenting on the current one. Also, please sign your talk page posts. As to your post, it's not very informative. Which edits on which articles by which users are you opposed to? Also, we don't hire anyone, all the editors here are volunteers doing this for fun, except Wikia staff. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:55, June 28, 2017 (UTC)
F100100 (talk) 13:36, June 30, 2017 (UTC)i wish those guys, if they want it for fun, then they should edit articles a little bit properly and fix their mistakes so that it would look understandable to readers
And they should italize ki and put more comas and italizations in main articles more often, also, when they edit something new they should place a reference, so readers would know where the new topics come from, and they should edit topics in a little bit more formal style.F100100 (talk) 08:56, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

another sockpuppet...

Special:Contributions/Gargoyle One

he didnt stop making them....Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 11:25, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I left him a second note. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:48, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Dragon Ball GT

I'm curious as to why Dragon Ball GT is still considered canon and part of the actual story on here? Several people from the franchise have said it's no longer canon and Akira Toriyama, himself, is totally dismissive of it. The whole reason he created Dragon Ball Super in the first place is because he was so embarassed by GT. --DBZSSJ3 (talk) 18:28, June 29, 2017 (UTC) 

Because Akira Toriyama has never stated an official canon neither has Toei Animation. The only people who have stated any form of canon are people who have no ownership to the series. Also do you have a credible source that states that Akira has even said he was embarrassed by GT. Also technically Akira Toriyama didn't create Super he created the first two movies that became the first two sagas of Super. Akira has even said that GT was part of the story look [1].  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  00:17,6/30/2017 
As Goku20 has stated, DBZSSJ3 your premise is not sound. To my knowledge, exactly 1 person even tangentially involved with DB has ever said the word canon, and it was merely an English dub voice actor. I'm very interested to hear your new sources, please post them for me here. Toriyama, who was of course involved in GT, has only ever said quite positive things about GT. Please post your source saying otherwise. Also, please post your source for Toriyama creating Super over this alleged embarrassment over GT. Yes please post sources for these 3 statements because frankly they are rather unbelievable and contradictory. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:58, June 30, 2017 (UTC)
That's not true. It is confirmed from Toriyama himself that he made Super because of DB Evolution. Look it up, go to Masako X's channel and the Kazennshu. It basically confirms this. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 03:52, June 30, 2017 (UTC)
If GT is still canon, then why would Super introduce the new Saiyan beyond God, Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue tranformations when they're nowhere to be found in GT? I doubt Goku and Vegeta would just abandon their most powerful Saiyan tranformations for the earlier transformations. On another note, why are the Pilaf Gang also given their youth back by Shenron, in Super, while they're very old in GT? I highly doubt they can age that fast in a decade. DBZSSJ3 (talk) 02:04, June, 30 2017 (UTC)

Well let's see both are inconsistences right now, but the answer to the second one could be that they wished to return to their age before or wished to be old. Now the answer to the first one is trickery since Z and GT both ended years before Super was even thought of, the reason I mention Z is because of the episode that takes place after Super ends it could just be an inconsistence. Also are you not going to give us any sources that proves that Akira Toriyama made Super because he was "embarrassed" by GT.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  07:26,6/30/2017 

It's important to note that Db super is currently set in the 10 year gap between kid buu and the world peace saga Age 774 to Age 784. GT happens in Age 789 or Age 794 according to the funimation version. So that's 15 years at the least for all kinds of things to potentially happen. 0551E80Y (talk) 07:36, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Here at the wiki, we don't treat things as "canon" or "noncanon"; we simply provide information on everything *officially* Dragon Ball. It's not our place to speculate and say what is or isn't canon. — Final ChidoriTalk 18:25, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

If gt took place much much later why does super's technology and buildings look modernized like our own real world, not to mention look at what the characters are using, touchscreen devices, you saw that did you and most of the character's homes have flat screen tvs not to mention the Kame house had a flat screen tv instead of the old style tv in z.F100100 (talk) 01:28, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Because GT was made in the 90's which was following the epilouge of the original manga which also ended in the 90's; it was reflecting the technology that was available then. Back then, Super wasn't even a thought in anyone's mind. The technology that's in super is a reflection of what is available today.  Also flat screen tvs were introduced in the 1990's 0551E80Y (talk) 02:00, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Final Chidori has the best answer here. We provide facts, we don't try to invent canons based on fan theories. Everyone is welcome to their own opinions, but all we post are encyclopedic facts. Goku20 brought up some good points that currently Super is not completed yet, there is still a major time gap between Super and GT, and Super actually takes place during DBZ so it's not like any potential inconsistencies are unique to GT. DBZSSJ3, I'd challenge you to justify the discrepancies between theatrical, anime, and manga versions of Super. Those 3 versions have characters appearing vs. not, living vs. dying, and contradicting dialogue. GT only differs by Super in that a wish or two might happen in the decade in between. Still waiting on your sources to back your first post btw. -- SSJ4 Goku(2)

Well maybe those things maybe just an oversight and is no big deal to the story, but, they should consider making a reimagining of the Uub saga in the style of Super to be consistent with the technology the series has F100100 (talk) 12:26, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I got GT confused with Dragon Ball Evolution. Nevertheless, a third example that proves GT is no longer part of the actual story is the de-fusion of Kibito Kai with Shin and Kibito going back to their regular old selves. Since their fusion was really only an example to show Goku how to use the Potara earrings there is no need for them to ever fuse again. That pretty much throws a wrench into the GT story right then and there. It's not a fan theory if Dragon Ball Super says otherwise. Plus, no mortal Saiyan transformation like Super Saiyan 4 is capable of being more powerful that of the godlike Super Saiyan Blue/Rosé transformation. GT shouldn't be part of the characters actual biography. It should just be it's own section on the character pages like the Dragon Ball films are. DBZSSJ3 (talk) 21:27 PM, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Read my link on canon, linked at the top of this page. Also, try not to leave comments on old buried threads. Thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:58, August 1, 2017 (UTC)



Recently a user that goes by the name of "DaisukeTheSaiyanGod" deleted everything on the King Kai page and I've spent an hour trying to put it back together again. I reported him for vandalism and I've requested help from others to restore it but I'm having trouble. Is there any way that I can fix the page completely? Here is a link to the guy that deleted the King Kai page:

Thank You,

BulmaCC (talk) 06:07, July 2, 2017 (UTC)Bulma CC

Thanks for your effort. I blocked the vandal and restored the article. If you ever need to restore an article prior to multiple bad edits again, simple click to view the article history, click the date of the last good version, click "edit" as usual, then "publish" as usual. That way you don't need to bother manually finding all the differences. Let me know if any of those steps are unclear. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 13:43, July 2, 2017 (UTC)


Hey I was wondering if you have seen this blog post and to give your thoughts on it: thats all I wanted to say

--- Love, Billybob125poopz (talk) 08:32, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Please start new talk topics when posting on a new subject. I gave my thoughts on the post. Wrong place to seek consensus for policy change. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:42, July 6, 2017 (UTC)


Are you removing all those pages from deletion? I spoke to Final Chidori about this already. I combined all the information on those pages with the Items in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 page and he was going to delete them because the pages just had a sentence of two a piece.Bullza (talk) 21:50, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

And now you've taken the Baby Hatchiyack saga off the deletion even though that page and all of its information was merged with the Dark Demon Realm saga page just like all the other mini arcs were.Bullza (talk) 22:03, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

You incorrectly marked them by adding a category. Had you properly tagged them for deletion with the template, which includes stating a reason, then I would know the reason. By adding the category directly you left me no choice but to remove it. Had you tagged them correctly, it still would have been rejected, since those pages should all be edited into redirects to wherever you are moving the info. If you had a plan for this sweeping change to site structure that affects ~100 articles, it should be discussed in the Manual of Style before being implemented. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:27, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Well I don't know how to tag them for deletion with a template I've never had to do it before. If you'd have just asked I could have told you the reason.

It wasn't supposed to be a sweeping change. I took the information on those pages and added it all to this one.

I asked Final Chidori about this before I started because he's a mod and he said that was fine. He didn't say about using the Manual of Style. It was only supposed to be a simple matter of combining info to one place so he could delete near empty pages.Bullza (talk) 22:45, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Bullza checked with me and I said it was fine. I don't think it was necessary to bring it up on the MoS talk page, it wasn't really a major change to site structure. Though in hindsight, it would have been a good idea to use redirects as well. — Final ChidoriTalk 06:19, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

Anything that's going to result in ~100 articles potentially being deleted is major. Redirects will help people find the info, and sustain any links currently leading to those articles. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:53, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

Super Saiyan "Rage"

Could ya have a look at this, I made a discovery about Super Saiyan "Rage"'s name, should it be changed immediately?--Neffyarious (talk) 03:56, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

  • Actually, I'm just gonna go ahead and rename it now since any official name is better than a fan translated name.--Neffyarious (talk) 04:08, July 7, 2017 (UTC)
Makes sense. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:54, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

Wait a second

Why did you removed my info cous master? I only stated that Coola being weaker than Freeza is dub onlyBH Ouji (talk) 05:19, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Which article? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:24, July 11, 2017 (UTC)
Um i meant the talk page about him, that Coola never stated that Freeza was always stronger than himBH Ouji (talk) 18:33, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Okay got it. As you can see from my edit summary, I removed the comments since you inserted them above existing comments in the same topic. New text in a topic always goes under older text. It's the only to keep track of who said what and when. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:39, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Time Immemorial

Hey, could help move Dragon Ball Wiki:KID BUU back to Time Immemorial since it was vandalized by CHALMERSCHRISTOPHER five months ago. DragonEmeperor (talk) 08:55, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Looks like someone already fixed it. Does it look all right to you now? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:23, July 11, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah its alright now. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:58, July 11, 2017 (UTC)


Hey 10X, VegitoBluehair need to be block cause he just vandalized Sorrel's page and I had to clean it up. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:27, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the info. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:29, July 11, 2017 (UTC)


Icantcomeupwithausernamelel is just vandalizing pages and needs to be blocked. Here's the proof: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:08, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Done. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:36, July 25, 2017 (UTC)


who the hell did this bullshit!?

this man

Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 16:00, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

he is still making them

What he's trying to say is that Enman basically vandalized the Vegeta's Pride episode, the Super Saiyan Berserk page, Kale's page, and that other page. Please block him. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 21:48, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

Also plase block because he vandalized the Quake of Fury page.

Hey everybody, please sign your posts and create new threats for new topics. There are instruction on the top of this page if you need help. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:35, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Super Saiyan (Berserk)

Let's just lock the move page on Super Saiyan (Berserk) until an official name is released because its just causing an edit war. DragonEmeperor (talk) 21:52, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

That IS the official name. And that was just Enman trolling the admin took care of that guy. The Super Saiyan (Beserk) page was a temporary page until Enman was blocked. No worries the admin took care of that one and I changed the name back. I's ok. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 21:54, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

I turned it into a redirect for the correct spelling. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:32, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Please Read

I know you might ignore this message, but please don't. Please read this 10X Kamehameha in its entirety.

Hey, I am Meshack, the user you blocked several times in the past. I created this account to ask for your forgiveness and put whatever happened in the past behind us. I didn't know any other way to contact you but I had to break the same rule I have before again to do this. To keep it short and sweet, I want you to know that I have changed since September of 2016. I learned to use the talk page more and discuss things before major moves on the wiki because that's what a wikia is about. I know this now since I have recently became an admin of the wiki, so I know I have improved. I really feel stupid for the things I have done on the wiki here in the past and I want to show that I've improved by helping this wiki. I apologize for the way I have said things in the pst for you to think I was attacking you but that wasn't the intention. I hope you can give me one last chnace to prove myself. P.S. No more sock acciunts either (lol)

Also, I know this account is going to get blocked so don't worry if you decide to inblock me after all of this time because I'm going to delete it but please think about it. I know deep down you're a cool guy and want me to edit with respect and I would if give the last chance. I love DB and I don't want to be separated form the place I can easily inform people of it - Meshack

I am going to deny your request. At your worst, you antagonized others and lied to slander those who brought up legitimate debate points. At your best, you worked hard to reformat the site contrary to the community consensus which you were often involved in, regularly waiting until people had stopped paying attention to formerly hot topics to return to the affected articles and make your changes when you thought no one was looking. As you were someone who consistently worked as a rogue agent to undermine the community, I will not reinstate your editing privileges. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:06, July 29, 2017 (UTC)


Can you deal with DevilX90 (talk), he keeps trying to force the Universe ranking order of fighters left section on the Tournament of Power page. DragonEmeperor (talk) 05:42, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Don't listen to him, 10X Kamehameha, DragonEmperor is just ruining the Tournament of Power page because he's trying to make sure no one figures out how many fighters are left. DevilX90 (talk) 05:44, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
This is way you got blocked on Super Smash Bros wikia, doing the same thing you're doing now. Here's his full log. DragonEmeperor (talk) 05:51, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
Okay. 1. Don't even go there by snooping on my log, that is sickening. And 2. What I'm doing is protecting it from a single troll such as you, because you keep on deleting the necessary info for no reason, not cool. DevilX90 (talk) 05:53, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
This is the same attitude for which you have been blocked in Fire Emblem Wiki. Calling other users trolls, make other people look like a villain, victimizing yourself, flaming, etc.

Yon!米津愛主!Golden Frieza artVisit my talk page! 06:03, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

See here, this is what Me, Yon!米津愛主!Golden Frieza artVisit my talk page!, and Skar800 (talk) are dealing with. That's why he needs to be blocked if DevilX90 keeps acting like this. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:16, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
Even User:BubbleRevolution (talk) is having a problem after explaining what would happen to him if this keeps up, but DevilX90 is still not listening. DragonEmeperor (talk) 07:45, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
You didn't listen either, DragonEmperor, and you started the editing war. Wait until 10X Kamehameha sees the whole mess you've made. DevilX90 (talk) 07:47, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
What is your problem, why does four people have to deal with you this badly. This is the same issue you have on other wikias and you need to fix that. DragonEmeperor (talk) 08:09, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

@10X DevilX90 has been edit warring and name calling and I have also looked at Skar800's talk page and DevilX90 has threaten to get Skar and Dragon blocked.

@DevilX90 while it does take two to tango the first time Dragon, Yonedge, Skar, Bubble, or myself undo your edit it isn't edit warring it means we disagree with your edit, or you are edit warring and you should take it up on the article talk page and not call people trolls, instead of what you done which was undo their edit, so therefore technically you started the edit war.

@10X also the Tournament of Power page is not the first page DevilX90 had edit warred on they have done it multiple times.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  10:54,7/30/2017 

My comment is the same as Neffyarious on DevilX90's talk page. If someone undoes your edit, then discuss it on the article talk page. Don't edit war. The convention is for the article to be left as is until a consensus is reached on the article talk page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:58, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Page for deletion

A user made this Dragon_Ball_Dream_Fights. Could you please delete it? Thanks Stryzzar (talk) 05:13, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Neffyarious took care of it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:15, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

The Profile Pics

Hey, the infobox pics of main characters like Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, etc. have become very old. Could you please replace them with new suitable images of Dragon Ball Super? Thanks.

Ultra Captain (talk) 09:53, August 4, 2017 (UTC)

The articles have images from all different series. For the infobox, we like full body images, preferably iconic base or true form versions. If you have a Super image of these characters fitting that description, feel free to propose it as a replacement on the corresponding article talk page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:35, August 5, 2017 (UTC)

Super Saiyan Berserk (controlled)

Hey 10X, could you lock the move page for Kale's new form until its official name is released because its getting moved too much. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:54, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Looks like Neffyarious has already made a decision on a temporary name. Seems reasonable until we get something official. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:55, August 9, 2017 (UTC)

Race Infobox2

10X if your good with coding, can you help fixing Template:Race Infobox2, its an updated version of the first one and my first time creating a coded template. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:07, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't coded an infobox. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:56, August 9, 2017 (UTC)

List of DBS Episodes

Hi, 10X Kamehameha.

About the List of Dragon Ball Super episodes page, can I break them down narrower for easier navigation? I already did it before, but always got reverted by User:DragonEmeperor. Thanks. ConTraZ VII (talk) 07:01, August 12, 2017 (UTC)

What do you mean by "break them down narrower?" -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:03, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

For example, in Universe Survival arc, I think we should split it into Recruitment Sub-Arc and Tournament of Power Sub-Arc. ConTraZ VII (talk) 08:33, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

Are there any officially licensed sources that break it up that way? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:39, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

Is it even need a source for that? How about the original arc's name and so. Are they even have source? I don't see any reference for that either. ConTraZ VII (talk) 23:27, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

Yes sources are needed, and no I don't see any referenced on the article. I recommend you start a discussion on the article talk page requesting a reference be added. If there is no source for the current breakdown, then your approach is equally valid. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:37, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, got it. Thanks. ConTraZ VII (talk) 23:33, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

And nobody replies. ConTraZ VII (talk) 23:28, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

Give it at least a week. Not everyone comes here every day. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 16:18, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, got it. ConTraZ VII (talk) 23:51, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

I found the evidence. Dragon Ball Heroes stated that the first part of this story arc is referred as Universe Survival Gathering of Warriors Saga. ConTraZ VII (talk) 23:45, August 21, 2017 (UTC)


Hello... I can't understand your lack of acceptance in assuming that the cases I have indicated are inspired by the series. I provided references. What's wrong?

Answering your questions: 

a) Well, there are Energy Blasts. And there is a movement of several Energy Blasts coming from top to bottom, just as Vegeta does, which is unmistakably the Lucora Gun. I was not able to find a video with Apollo, and Taya is only controllable in an advanced part of the game. But if You could watch You would agree with me.

b) A pastiche is an artistic work in a style that imitates that of another work, artist, or period. 

Could please revert the edits? Thanx... (Sorry by my rooted English)

Kowalewski (talk) 10:06, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

Many games, shows, and other media have energy blasts, levitation, auras, etc. It doesn't mean they are derived from Dragon Ball, and in fact Dragon Ball is derivative of other media that came before it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:46, August 15, 2017 (UTC)


Hey 10x, can you block Ssj hash slinging slasher? He literally did this to the Kale page. Thanks SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 01:48, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

I left him a warning. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:42, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

abuse filter?

can you say what is an abuse filter????it blocked one of the users

Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 10:35, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

Which user? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 16:20, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Hello, my account Alduin, Eater of Worlds got banned infinitely for spam despite me not spamming at all. Is there an alternate reason behind this ban, because if there is I'd be willing to accept it. Thank you

Devvo the Comedic Genius (talk) 01:54, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

I unblocked you. I will research the abuse filter, probably a new Wikia feature, and see if I can straighten this out. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:10, August 21, 2017 (UTC)


Is this page?,_Dragon_of_the_Gods_—_Grant_My_Wish_Pretty_Peas!

I can't find the proper page for Episode 41 of Super. I see a bunch of red links that I was gonna fix but I can't find the proper page for the episode.Bullza (talk) 07:38, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:45, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

RE: AbuseFilter

Hi. I've changed filter, should be fixed for false-positivies. If it will block users again for nothing - please, let me know, thanks) FANMADE_Luna_S1_flying.gifKopcap9408:58, 21/8/2017

Tournament of Power individual character trivia

Hello!  The reason for this contact is because I and another user had been working all day on adding to the trivia section for the competitors in The Tournament of Power -- specifying their performance and placement in the tournament (which I personally believe is significant enough to warrant mention, especially since there's so little content for most of those characters in their articles).  A user by the name of "RexGodwin" has since taken it upon himself to remove those bits of new trivia without any reason for doing so.  For what it's worth this "RexGodwin" person has been the subject of multiple incidences of past belligerance and editing wars, so I figure it would be an exercise in futility to undo his deletions since he'll probably just re-delete everything again.  Since you're the moderator I leave it up to your good judgement as to whether or not that information was worthy of being in the Tournament of Power's participants' articles under their trivia section. Hyxl (talk) 19:34, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

I don't see RexGodwin having edited the linked article this month. When did this happen? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:21, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Rafael Haaq

We got another vandal being funny and deleting blanking out Bardock, Yamcha, and Botamo's pages. Here's his contributions. DragonEmeperor (talk) 05:45, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:56, August 27, 2017 (UTC)


this user is also blocked by abuse filter. can you unban this poor chap?

thanks, Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 12:13, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

Done. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:57, August 27, 2017 (UTC)


Hi i have something to say, on the age 767 page i was trying to add the event where Goku gives Cell a Senzu bean but when i saved the edit i accidentally created three blank spaces in between two events. The spaces still had the squares that are behind the events and some events were moved to the right. Can you please help me and and make it the way it was? 

User talk:David102745

Please start new threads for new topics, and sign your talk page posts. Instructions are at the top of this page. As for your edit, I undid it because someone eating a Senzu is not a notable event in a given year. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:58, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

Edit war

Hyperactive Pikachu will not use the article talk page to discuss an edit war between me and him/her (with me having undone his/her edit and him remaking it countless times), you probably have to look at his/her edit history to see the articles, but I have left him 2 messages one saying to "stop adding his/her bias and to stop edit warring and use the article talk page" and the second one was telling him/her that if they don't stop I will report them. So that is what I am doing since they haven't listened.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  01:40,9/1/2017 

Which articles? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:59, September 1, 2017 (UTC)
Vegito, Krillin, and Galactic Frieza Army the first two s/he has continued to edit war on.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  04:08,9/1/2017 

I'll leave then a message. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:04, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Restore page

The user Bullza screwed with Future Gohanks page by creating another article with the same name, request restoring back. Bargeta (talk) 14:34, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

I never made a new page, all I did was replace the image for the new anime one.
Looks fine to me. Is there still a problem? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:13, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Also, the user Sakura1000 returned to add false information on God Final Flash page. Bargeta (talk) 14:35, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Try discussing the issue on the article talk page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:16, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

And also, can you rename Vegenks' article to "Xeno Vegeks"? That's how he is called. Bargeta (talk) 14:40, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Vegeks? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:16, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
Don't worry, I already renamed Vegeks to Xeno Vegeks.--Neffyarious (talk) 16:09, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Son 19

Hello 10x! I need your help. I am having trouble with User:Son19 since he is wondering if we use the Kanzenshuu and if we should change the name of Instantaneous Movement. Show him around and tell him why we do what we do. it's in the policies after all but I don't know how to link it. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 05:46, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, will do. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:16, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

New admins

Hey 10X, us admins have been less active on the wiki recently, and I myself am going to be going into semi-retirement (or maybe full retirement) from wiki soon. I also remember you saying a while back that you yourself where probably going to retire at some point. So I was thinking it's about time we promoted some new admins.--Neffyarious (talk) 16:45, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Yep, new blood is always helpful. Any recommendations? No one has really asked to be promoted or recommended anyone else in a while. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:19, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
I would recommend Bullza perhaps. Since he is one of the only users who know how to code. Plus, he is way more attentive to DB news than we are. Him or Dragon Emporer, since he is very attentive to this wiki 24/7. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 00:24, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

While I am not always editing I am always on here unless I am asleep, but still I am always active on here. So I say me, Bullza, and Dragon Emporer that way we have 3 new ones and at least 2 that are always active.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  00:40,9/12/2017 

  • I was actually going to recommend Bullza as well. He makes great edits, he's constantly trying to make the wiki better, and he has a calm and reasonable attitude. He also hasn't been blocked (or warned, as far as I know) in two years. — Final ChidoriTalk 00:42, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

I would also recommend GulKette since he is also very attentive. Even more than Dragon Emperor at timesSuperBen 1000000 (talk) 01:02, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Neffy, do you recommend Bullza as well? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:17, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
Yup, Bullza was the one who I had in mind. Glad to see we are all in agreement.--Neffyarious (talk) 10:48, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

And I agree as well. It's decided then. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:10, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

Does anyone know if Liquid_speaker is still active in our social channels? He never edited much so it's hard to tell. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:34, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

The last time he logged in was May 20th of this year, so I guess he is semiactive.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  03:38,9/13/2017 

Oh so this is how it all started, I didn't even know about this. Thanks everyone for the support, I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon so I'll remain active and I'll keep on making edits and improvements where I can. I'm currently rewatching Dragon Ball Z and I plan to give each episode page a good amount more detail and information.Bullza (talk) 16:36, September 13, 2017 (UTC)


Were you ok with the picture of Goku that was in the infobox before it was put back to the one I wanted to change.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  03:32,9/13/2017 

I prefer the current one because it shows Goku's hair. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:37, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

Ok I will try to look for one that shows more of Goku's hair and suggest it on his talk page.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  03:41,9/13/2017 

Volunteer Curators

Hi 10X Kamehameha

Neffyarious suggeseted I come to you about this

As I said there, I posted a blog post about Volunteer Curators here on Dragon Ball Wiki and I'm wondering if it'd be ok with you and the rest of the admin team if I posted a community message about it (like a site-wide message, but just for this wiki). We're hoping to attract anime news fanatics to help round out our anime coverage on

Thanks -- Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 17:39, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

Of course you can. How long will the message be up? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:56, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! I've put it up for seven days. Those who have seen it can click it away though, so it shouldn't be too intrusive -- Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 18:03, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Vandal report (David67zf)

As of this report, the user David67zf has vandalized Hit's article twice in a row, completely blanking it twice in a row and leaving a belligerent message behind.

Hyxl (talk) 15:16, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, he has been blocked. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:53, September 17, 2017 (UTC)


The user Pega o pombo has vandalized on Time Breakers article. Request restoring back. Bargeta (talk) 03:08, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Done. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:16, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

Your view on the special coming up

Hi 10x Kamehameha! I would just like your view on how we should treat the spcial coming up because this is the first time Toei has ever done this in DB. In my opinion, no matter what the format it will always be a special. After all, the DB media is treating it that way in official material. Plus, if we view it as the anime, it would be not only biased, but people will think the special and the episodes being two different things, even though that is not the case and will view the special as "non-canon" even though the special IS THE EPISODES. Though, I'm not here to try to convince you of my view. After all, trying to prove someone wrong actually strengthens the person's beliefs in being right - this article of a study proves that - I just want to ask how do I convince others to my point even though whenever you prove someone wrong, they try to cling on to their beliefs. Because despite all the points I pointed out, people still try to argue with me into proving that the special isn't really a special. Bullza, Dragon Emporer and Yonedge Hp are examples of people arguing with me in trying to prove that the special isn't a special. But that it not the case. You believe that right? SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 04:05, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

It is a special, but it is also just two episodes back to back. It'll be treated the same way as Goku and friends return, BoG and ResF and will be put into the main biography section of the article.--Neffyarious (talk) 19:37, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

We'll know more when it airs, but yah just looks like two episodes being shown in the same week. If so, that's not really even a special. Just some marketing to get viewers hyped. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:39, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

I hope it's ok.

I changed up the Poll on the main page. It hadn't been done since January so I put in a new one. It says you can't change it unless you're an Admin which I now am, so I just changed it up to the first thing that came to mind. I hope that's not an issue or there's something wrong with what I picked.Bullza (talk) 07:53, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

It's okay, but please also archive the results of the current poll in: Dragon_Ball_Wiki:Poll_Archive. You should be able to see the old results here: The archive is linked on the main page and both helps us to avoid repeat polls, as well as entertaining readers who want to see what the popular opinions are. So yes please update the polls as you like, just also archive the results when you do. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:08, September 27, 2017 (UTC)


Hi, 10X! I haven't been on this wiki for a couple of years and now I have finally found some interest to be back on out of nostalgia I just wanted to know if you are on any social networking platform like facebook or whatever. It seems that those few months or even years I've spent being live on this wiki especially on the chat are just stored in a corner overlapped somewhere in my mind. So, if you don't mind would you like to tell me your real name or anything from your real life? Thanks. Mysterious Luster (talk) 16:22, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

And please give me a reply on my talk page instead of here. Thanks. Mysterious Luster (talk) 16:25, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

Ultra Instinct

Goku's new form is also the auto-react ability used by Whis. This seems to be causing some issues with users on this site - as "Ultra Instinct" is a strange case of being both a transformation and technique. You think you could weigh in on this?--Neffyarious (talk) 09:36, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

Okay. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 14:33, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

Enabling Discussions/Migrating Forums

Hi 10X Kamehameha; I'm Doug from FANDOM's Community Development team! With Dragonball Super airing and the DBZ fighting game coming out early next year. I'm reaching out to you to see if you are interested in turning on the Discussions feature for the DBZ community, and migrating the Threaded Forums across as well.

In case you are unaware of the feature, Discussions was introduced last year to help communities engage with users and fans. It lives in its own space on the wiki and allows users to interact with other members of the community. It is also mobile friendly, and gives mobile users a chance to contribute and engage with the community, and possibly turn them into wiki editors as well. Discussions also links with our FANDOM Apps, which DBZ has, and it allows app users to easily take part in Discussions as well. You can read more about Discussions here.

For more information on migrating forums to Discussions, you can check out this blog over on Community Central that explains everything in detail.

If you have some concerns, Discussions and Forums can exist side-by-side in case you do not want to migrate just yet. However, eventually all Forums will be migrated over to Discussions, so getting ahead of the curve is never a bad idea.

Feel free to have an open discussion with your community/admins about this, and I'm available with any questions you might have. Have a good one! TheBlueRogue @fandom •(profile)•(talk)•( 19:40, October 9, 2017 (UTC)

I think it’s safe to activate Discussions now. As the blog you linked suggests, I’d rather delay full Forum migration until the features of Discussions are more complete. Plus it will give our community an adjustment period. Is that all right? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:48, October 10, 2017 (UTC)
Awesome, I've gone ahead and enabled Discussions and we'll leave the forums untouched. Thanks so much! I'll seed a few posts and monitor them over these first few weeks as posters start to roll in! TheBlueRogue @fandom •(profile)•(talk)•( 16:00, October 11, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the help! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:34, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

Room for One More

10X, I believe one more administrator is needed due to vandalism that happens when you and the admins are not on. A perfect example is this right here and I'm unable to do anything until one of you logs on. Another reason is that Dragon Ball wikia needs more than four admins as I'm positive its not easy running it with so few people. So that's why I will like step up and help as much as I can. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:51, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

True. The argument about the special right now is currently undecided due to Neffy being inactive, but to be fair Bullza is his or her replacement. Even then Bullza is less active than Neffy. We need to decide someone else who is more active and can deal with the vandalism here while Bullza is trying to improve the anime pages. Dragon Emperor you are definitely a good candidate but I still believe there are others out there who can take the helm as well. I suggest an announcement for a special position made to handle the vandalism. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 00:32, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the note. We’ll consider your input. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:09, October 14, 2017 (UTC)


this user is constantly trolling jiren's page and removed its contents. please block him.

Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 12:17, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

And it to be renamed again because he kept moving it. DragonEmeperor (talk) 15:16, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

I need help with deleting Talk:Jiren The Gray, Talk:Jiren the Gray, and Talk:Jiren the Grayhugging. Wc12271991 (talk) 05:53, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

I sorted out all of the above.Bullza (talk) 07:24, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

Great job Bullza! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:09, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

Edit warring

The user "DragonEmeperor" keeps edit warring and adding too much of irrelevant information to Android 13 and Tapion articles. Bargeta (talk) 05:46, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Have you tried talking to him on the article talk pages? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 15:53, October 22, 2017 (UTC)


Do you think we should have one more admin on the team? Personally I believe that if we do promote one more admin, DragonEmeperor would be the best candidate for the position.--Neffyarious (talk) 20:44, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

We should vote upon an Administrator, I disagree with giving DragonEmeperor that type of role, he already acts like a mod and that’s not a good thing. (Kaleifla 23:46, October 30, 2017 (UTC))

I think he’s doing well but we did just promote someone recently. I think we should reassess in a few months. Are there any areas in particular where more mods are needed? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:42, November 2, 2017 (UTC)
And how is that bad exactly? A mod is needed in this wiki, especially when there are vandals putting crap on pages all over the place. Not to mention the people that keep promoting illegal streaming sites for us to watch DB Super episodes. That is where mods are needed 10x, in forums and in pages. And while for now we should get Dragon Emperor as admin with you guys' approval, the next time you want to appoint an admin, we should all have representation on the matter, as -in my view, sorry if the user is reading this- the last promotion was not the best. As where is he/she now? The user barely comes here and whie I can see why he/she can't come as often, the job of an admin is to stay active and lately, that's not what the user has been doing. The user has barely participated in admin affairs and I am concerned since if you guys leave, this wiki will have a complete downgrade in productivity even with the user here. If you want to retire, please pick wisely and PASS YOUR INFO DOWN!!! PUBLICLY!!! Because if you don't, and if you don't pick people wisely, this wiki will fall apart if you leave. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 03:35, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

I'm right here and I check this all the time. When ever I get a message I make sure to deal with it straight away or any problems that I might catch that were directed to other admins, I've already blocked several vandals in the past couple weeks.

I was also busy recently updating over 100 episode pages with significantly more information and then updating the corresponding saga page by adding in all missing information as I've been rewatching the show and I plan to do the other 200 episodes which is very time consuming.

That on top of all the other edits, like making a page for the newest Volume of Super and making and filling out pages for the Yamcha Reincarnated manga and linking everything up properly.

Doing all that and then also checking what other people are doing all the time is a big ask.

If there's any issue though, you can bring it up to me and I'll sort it out, no problem.Bullza (talk) 06:35, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

"I'm the hero Gotham deserves. But not what it needs right now." -Batman, The Dark Knight

Well well well, hello Bullza, long time no talk. As I've said before, I understand why you can't come as often, but the thing is, you are just not doing your job. Just look at the people who promote illegal websites still running amok. Have you dealt with them? There was a picture conflict earlier today that Neffy had to take care of and not you in site. Did you know you are SUPPOSED TO BE NEFFY'S REPLACEMENT? Yeah, that's right and so far, Neffy still is the one to create pages such as Goku's change and update info. Don't you see, Neffyarious is retiring!! YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO EVERYTHING HE DOES ABD MORE!! AND LOOK WHO'S THE ONE MORE ACTIVE!!! THE ONE WHO'S MORE ACTIVE IS THE GUY WHO'S RETIRING!!!Listen man, I think you are a great guy/girl on this wiki who is filled wotg determination and passion willing to take the time. You are what this wiki deserves, but what this wiki needs right now (hense thw quote above) is someone who is more active and diligent. Neffy, if you are reading this, this goes for you too 10x, you better take these the new admin under your wing because if you don't, as said before, this wiki will be downgraded significantly. 😧 SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 17:25, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

SuperBen, there's no need to be so hostile towards Bullza. Calm down. Feel free to state your opinion on the management of the wiki, just please do it in a respectful and mature way. I think Bullza is doing his job just fine. The fact that Neffyarious came online before he did and solved an image disagreement or created a page (which normal users can do anyway) doesn't mean Bullza isn't doing his job. Neffy hasn't even retired yet. — Final ChidoriTalk 20:26, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

SuperBen must be feeling like this now [7] --Skar800 (Talk) 21:41, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

I can't be here 24/7. Whenever someone has used my talk page to ask for help I've made sure to do it. If you see someone prompting illegal sites just message me about it and I'll deal with it. Look up two sections and I fixed that didn't I?
Like Chidori said, anyone can make these pages, not just an admin and I've been making pages of my own. This is a big series with info coming in constantly across different things, I can't keep up with everything by myself.Bullza (talk) 23:35, November 2, 2017 (UTC)
High quality, highly active users are great, but if we have to prioritize one over the other then quality is by far more important for an admin. I’d prefer someone who comes on an hour a day and does a good job to someone who spends 12 hours on here mucking everything up (and we’ve seen plenty of both types through the years).
Also, being an admin is not a job. We are not paid, and there is no obligation to do anything more as an admin than you would already do. This is why we reserve admin rights for those users who already act like what we’re looking for, rather than giving them a list of orders or mandatory hours. Other than the ability to block users, protect pages, and delete pages, admin rights really do very little. Any user can add and delete content, undo bad edits and vandalism, encourage others to have civil discussions and follow the rules, and engage the community in policy revisions. Bullza is an excellent editor and admin. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:50, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

Pages for Super Animation Supervisors

Can I make pages for Super animation supervisors? With that, we'll know which supervisor is involved in which episodes. ConTraZ VII (talk) 02:50, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, as long as you have sources for the info, and the pages are more than just “so and so is the supervisor.” -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:15, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm doing "So and so supervisor did supervise this and that episodes". Thanks. ConTraZ VII (talk) 03:51, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

I just said it’s not worth having articles if that’s all it is. Sounds redundant with simply having episode credits on episode pages, unless there’s more info you can add about those people. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:04, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

I will add more in the future. ConTraZ VII (talk) 03:19, November 10, 2017 (UTC)

Edit warring

The user DragonEmeperor resumed edit warring, removing legit information that anyone can confirm by looking at the source. Also, I noticed you have been doing nothing whenever I warn you about someone breaking rules. But when it comes to me, you do not think twice before leaving me a warning or blocking me. You better do something. Bargeta (talk) 02:48, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

So you left it to your mommy Bargeta. And guess what? Dragon left a message to his daddy too, Bullza. Wow, just wow. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 02:55, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

Bargeta, go to Bullza's talk page. I left him to settle it and whatever he say will end it. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:58, November 7, 2017 (UTC)
I went. Not that he has the final word though, as he's not the only one here who knows about Heroes. Bargeta (talk) 03:02, November 7, 2017 (UTC)
Hey SuperBen, stop trying to rise the tension, were trying to end it here. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:58, November 7, 2017 (UTC)
^ I second that. SuperBen, cool it with the hostile comments. I'm not warning you again. — Final ChidoriTalk 03:39, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Bargeta. Not sure what you’re talking about that I’ve been warning you and no one else. I warn and block many people, and I believe I help out more people than I punish. Anyway, which article(s) are you concerned about? Did you use the article talk page to try and resolve the issue before coming to an admin? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:09, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

This time is on Kefla's article. He keeps adding false information with his "true Super Saiyan" even though that name does not appear anywhere in any official means. Just check it out on Kefla's article and you will see it.

And you added back most of the crappy and unnecessary images of Super Saiyan 4, and removed Super Saiyan 4 Bardock card... Bargeta (talk) 04:14, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

You removed a ton of SS4 content without even an edit summary. Sounds like you’re not using talk pages either. Please start using talk pages and edit summaries, it doesn’t make much sense to say someone else is edit warring if you aren’t communicating with them using Wiki conventions. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 07:52, November 11, 2017 (UTC)

Problem with User DragonEmeperor

As proofed here and [8], he uses the English text and then translate it with Google to Japanese instead of using the original Japanese text. Not only that, he also removes the <br> code I put that make the article clean in two lines separated like this. Please consider this and make a proper warning for him. I know there are several users that has problem with him too. Thanks. ConTraZ VII (talk) 12:08, November 19, 2017 (UTC)

How do you know he used Google Translate in the first two edits? Did you ask him for his source of the Japanese he posted? Those line breaks looked like wasted space. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:31, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

I always get the Japanese titles from Wikipedia because I don't know where to get them. DragonEmeperor (talk) 20:03, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry but please do not take it anywhere unless it has been shown in the episode titles (or at least in the next episode preview) since most of them are incorrect or a made-up. You can follow Herms on Twitter. He is one of the best source providers relating DB series, including spoilers, interviews, and the analysis of the series, both manga and anime. ConTraZ VII (talk) 00:30, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an acceptable source. They may cite other good sources, but they themselves are just another encyclopedia, and one that cares a lot less about DB info than we do. Herms is just a fan, and not a valid source either, although he may provide English translations of valid sources which are usable. Please use our Manual of Style list of canon sources for reference. Only sources in that list are okay. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10:30, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

Herms is a reliable source because he always provide evidence when he post something. So far, he is the best source for me and it is always accurate. ConTraZ VII (talk) 12:33, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

”Source” for an encyclopedia means something very specific, namely licensed publications. This is sometimes called a ‘’primary source.’’ In this sense, no fan can be considered a citable source. Regardless of fan reputation, they are not themselves Dragon Ball media. I’m happy you personally get info that way, but they cannot be added as a reference in an article. That fan’s sources may be however, in some cases. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:03, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

Hey 10X, I couldn't find the source list on here. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:07, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

For Dragon Ball media, please use -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:32, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

Like I said, even he is a fan, he provides info with evidence (like a screenshot of official magazine, etc). Isn't that a piece of evidence too? ConTraZ VII (talk) 23:21, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the magazine screenshot could be evidence depending on the magazine info shown. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:37, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

OK, so I can rely on this. So far, there's no bad record from him. ConTraZ VII (talk) 04:57, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Request for adminship

Hello. I am requesting to be an administrator on this wikia because I have experience patrolling Wikis and I am confident that I can handle the roll. Emen383 (talk) 17:33, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

You're pretty new bro and I went to your page to look at you're favourite wikis; Spongebob wikia, Fallout Wikia, and Elder Scrolls. And in all wikis you have less than 10 edits in each - that a'ight experience.
  • Sorry For the external links 10X - I just wanted to put some evidence in about he's lack of experience.--Made up Character Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Things I do [mod] 02:02, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the note Emen383. However, this message was your first edit on the site, and we would only consider experienced users for an admin role. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:40, November 26, 2017 (UTC)


Hey 10X, its me DragonEmeperor. Can you unblock my account somehow the abuse filter blocked my account for spamming and I need help. Nuobgu (talk) 04:30, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about that, but looks like you’ve been helped now. I sent the user who put the filter in place a message to take it back down. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:35, November 29, 2017 (UTC)

Saga Navigation Box

Hi, 10X Kamehameha! I have a suggestion relating this template:

I find it messy to have the titles sorted like that. How about we change it to be this style? I find it very neat and easy to navigate rather than the current style. How about you? ConTraZ VII (talk) 16:21, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

I tend to agree with you, although One Piece has the advantage of not being 4 separate series and therefore has consistent numbering. I still agree numbers are better, so I recommend to propose this suggestion on the DB Wiki Main Page talk page and see what others think. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 17:29, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the suggestion. By the way, where is the talk page that you mentioned? Could you give the link? I can't find it anywhere. ConTraZ VII (talk) 23:38, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

Here Bullza (talk) 00:01, December 3, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Bullza. ConTraZ VII (talk) 06:00, December 3, 2017 (UTC)


Hey, do you still use your email for communication? --Riptoze 03:22, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

If needed, why? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:21, December 6, 2017 (UTC)
Sent an email a few days ago. Not sure if you got it or used it anymore. --Riptoze 21:11, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Got it, thanks for the note. No worries. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:20, December 7, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the bump, I haven't gotten a response yet if you sent one. :P --Riptoze 23:32, December 12, 2017 (UTC)

No, I only replied here. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:58, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know. You replied in the past for private matters. I had a question I was wanting to keep private. May I have my profile/talk page deleted please? --Riptoze 08:04, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

I’ll delete your user page, but your talk page is necessary for communications to you, if you will continue to edit here. You can blank it though. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:49, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

Talk page change

Someone brought to my attention that we are using the old classic talk page instead of the more modern message wall.

It's something you can toggle in the Admin Dashboard, Wiki features sections. Would that be something we'd want? Would it make posting messages easier and more organised? Was there a reason why we didn't swap to that?Bullza (talk) 16:48, December 11, 2017 (UTC)

It’s less organized and less flexible. Imagine talk pages being replaced with an old, hard to edit instant messenger system, similar to the blog interface. It’s also not compatible with all the Wikia skins. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:22, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you are talking about but it's proven more organized and very flexible. The user does not need to leave their signature anymore and you can edit it anytime. The topics are also separated nicely and it's proven to be used by many wikis. This is an example. How if we give it a try? ConTraZ VII (talk) 09:33, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
The Message Wall system does have it's pros and cons. Such as being notified from a response from on more than just you own talk page, but also a cons is notification swarming.--Made up Character Wiki/Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Things I do [mod] 09:39, December 12, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, that's why I love it. You don't have to check your talk page every time to see if there's any new reply or not. So far I use it in other Wiki, the notification swarm is not too much. ConTraZ VII (talk) 02:04, December 13, 2017 (UTC)

Proven more flexible? Wrong. Much less flexible than talk pages. You get notifications when people leave messages on your talk page too, just one if there’s something new rather than a million. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:27, December 13, 2017 (UTC)
I'm with 10X on this. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the notification swarming ContraZ--Made up Character Wiki/Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Things I do [mod] 02:53, December 13, 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Staff and 10X I have used both and I like the way we use it here.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  02:56,12/13/2017 

Okay then, if that's so. I'm just suggesting. So far I'm using it in other wikis, I never get a million of it. And I don't see people actively messaging here. Your talk page as an example, does not have that much. What do you mean by flexible anyway? I just don't see it. And I don't see notifications as a problem. It's not like you have too many contributors to send a message to your wall. ConTraZ VII (talk) 06:19, December 13, 2017 (UTC)

Adding latest episode and chapter in the main page

Hi again, 10X Kamehameha!

About the title, can we put the latest episode and chapter in the main page like most of the ongoing series doing? ConTraZ VII (talk) 00:21, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

I don’t see why not. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:42, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

Is that mean yes? If so, I will proceed. ConTraZ VII (talk) 07:50, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

Here it is. Please put it in the main page. ConTraZ VII (talk) 12:53, December 15, 2017 (UTC)


This user has done nothing but post forum threads with links to piracy/scam websites, likely containing a lot of viruses and other malware. He claims you can watch as of yet unreleased episodes early by following the link. Please block him. Kamikaze839 03:27, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I’ll take a look. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:43, December 14, 2017 (UTC)
I've blocked around 50 different accounts like this over the past few weeks. I don't know why it suddenly started happening but it's almost a daily thing now where I have to block some spammer and his links to episodes of Super or even other shows entirely.Bullza (talk) 06:55, December 14, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah a lot of spam happens here. There was an AbuseFilter up to filter some of it but it caught some false positives so it was disabled. The filter can be updated by an expert to make it stop false positives to help deal with spam if that wants to be entertained. The false positives should not of happened and it can be fixed by Kopcap to make sure it never happens again. --Riptoze 08:34, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

I’m open to us trying the filter again after some fine tuning if you agree it is useful, Bullza. What do you think? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:51, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

It would probably be necessary yeah. Just looking at this
Aside from the tens of people that have had to be blocked over it, it's been going on now since the start of November.Bullza (talk) 09:21, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

MORE SPAM. This time on something that is completely unrelated to this wiki. Kamikaze839 17:08, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. The user has been blocked globally by Wikia. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:52, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

Splitting Universe Survival Saga

After I saw how the whole Majin Buu saga is split into smaller arcs, I think we need to the same with Universe Survival saga. I propose we split into three arcs:

  • Universe Survival Saga: Episode 77-96 (20 episodes)
  • Tournament of Power First Half Saga: Episode 97-111 (15 episodes)
  • Tournament of Power Second Half Saga: Episode 112-probably will cover until 126 (15 episodes)

Thank you. ConTraZ VII (talk) 10:49, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

I disagree because Dragon Ball Z was only split up into smaller arcs for the English dub and Dragon Ball Super isn't facing that issue. DragonEmeperor (talk) 13:11, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

It's really weird to see we have Other World Saga that is only 5 episodes to be an arc. FYI, I separate them according to the card titles. Card titles are always changed according the arc. ConTraZ VII (talk) 13:34, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

I haven't seen the card titles, but the only way I see to divide up this arc is the exhibition match/finding competitors and the actual tournament itself. It may be possible to do a before vs after Goku vs Jiren round 1 because that is the halfway point of the tournament. Kamikaze839 15:35, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

As you can see here, Toei separates them like this:

Thanks. ConTraZ VII (talk) 16:06, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

This topic is better suited for the main page talk or manual of style talk. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:51, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Alright. ConTraZ VII (talk) 06:52, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

New Navbox Template

Hey 10X, do you how to code because I'm trying to hide the v.t.e. on the new Template:Navbox so they won't be the next targets for vandalizing. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:52, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

What do you mean by vte? We can protect any templates needed, just let me know which you need protected. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:50, December 22, 2017 (UTC)
You know, View, Talk, and Edit. I was asking because I was trying to prevent them from being vandalized like the pages had been for two months. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:11, December 22, 2017 (UTC)
Tip: Templates like this do not need to be edited by regular users. Protect the templates, no more vandalism.
Orion (T-B-C) 23:13, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

There is no need to hide any aspects of the template. However, I have protected it from editing by new and unregistered users. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:00, December 23, 2017 (UTC)


He's vandalizing the Tournament of Power page and not listening after I warned him. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:31, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

His last edit was only minutes after your warning. I seconded your warning on his talk page. Let’s see if he gets the message. If not, a block may be the next step. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:36, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

Supersaiyan 2 vegeta

He keeps adding art the Super Saiyan God page and then just tried to delete the page. DragonEmeperor (talk) 19:27, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I left him a message. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:34, December 30, 2017 (UTC)


Hey 10x, long time no see! Just would like to report this user for creating these pages . Could you please deal with that? Thank you, Have a Happy New Year! SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 05:30, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

Done. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:54, December 30, 2017 (UTC)


This guy is just vandalizing pages. He's all yours. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:16, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

Done. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:56, December 30, 2017 (UTC)


I'm not dealing with him again, he doesn't answer any messages and keeps adding airdates without proof. Please, block him indefinitely because this his first time and he uses multiple sock accounts. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:10, December 31, 2017 (UTC)

These are his sock accounts: AlejandBobad895, AlejandroEmilianoBobadilla895 (blocked already), AlexBoba895 (blocked already), and AleBobadilla (blocked already but it expires next month). See that, he's using six accounts and they all got the same thing in common: adding or changing airdates. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:27, December 31, 2017 (UTC)
This user has 100 or so socks and they do this across wikia. Munchvtec (talk) 07:37, December 31, 2017 (UTC)
I blocked the ones you posted here. To do a range block, we’d need an active Checkuser. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 15:32, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

X10, It's time

It's a new year and its time for a new admin to step up. I'm ready to help up since I'm always up at night checking for vandalism and trolls. DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:20, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

With respect, if you’d like to be an admin you’ll need to work on your communication style, especially with new users. If someone has a question, try your best to answer diplomatically or direct them to help. If you see an edit war, use the talk page. If someone is making bad edits, do your best to convince them why it makes sense to follow the rules and work together. Being professional and welcoming is more important than being on a lot. Take the high road, don’t insult people, and always be patient with others. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:16, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
Alright. It's true anywhere with what you said. There have been some moments where I'm trying to explain but then it turns into an edit war. But, that's why I was always contact an admin so situation doesn't get out of hand. Plus, I'm so used to the regular editors on here that I usually don't have a problem until the trolls appear. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:36, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

When possible, whether someone is an admin or not, the Wiki benefits much more from turning inexperienced users into good users than from chastising and reporting newcomers unfamiliar with our policies. If being an admin is a goal of yours, I’d like to start seeing you spending time teaching and guiding rather than berating. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 08:16, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

I'll try but some of the users don't like listen even when your trying to explain the situation. DragonEmeperor (talk) 11:50, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

That is true. But it’s the trying that’s important from experienced users like you and me. Use article talk pages and a friendly, diplomatic attitude to win over new users to following the Rules and MoS. If they are here to edit but aren’t good at it, those are opportunities. If they truly just want to make trouble, well, that’s what the Ban Hammer is for. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:50, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

That's why I always go to you or Bullza for the Ban Hammer. Also, there is one problem were having now. It involves the characters that Xeno in their name. It started when Shugesh was renaming them with Xeno after the name like Bardock: Xeno instead of Xeno Bardock due to the cards going by that naming pattern. But, SuperBen and I asked for sources and I even asked Neff about it. Now, its one big mess with a huge argument and no decent results from it. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:06, January 7, 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to throw my hat in here, I'd just like to say that DragonEmperor could assume more good faith with users. He often undoes good faith edits without using an edit summary. I'm just going to show a few random edits he's undone without any explanation as the intent from these users were good faith to the articles.!_Vegeta%27s_Challenge_to_Be_The_Strongest!!?diff=prev&oldid=1653395
I personally feel it's better to use edit summaries when removing edits from other users that are not vandalism/spam. It comes off discouraging to try and help an article and have it undone without a reason. I don't mean to interfere, I wanted to express a perspective of a community member and how communication is an important aspect of being an administrator. --Riptoze 06:19, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
Vnukut was vandalizing Jiren's page, XXDoritoGamerzXx didn't list the battle right on episode 122 (Super), I put the picture back where it was on the Destroyers page, Luka 7844 keep trying to add alternative names that were never used, and if you check Rogeta234's talk page you'll see he's always in a edit war with someone. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:32, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to throw my hat in here, but the expression "If it smells like a duck (...)" comes to mind for the vast majority of so-called "good faith edits" across all of Wikia. Someone who blanks half an article and puts in curse words is definitely just vandalizing. Someone who messes up a template syntax in the article itself might just not know how the template works. Someone who breaks the rules several times, despite being warned, is vandalizing. Someone who adds in "THC" as the name of a character is vandalizing. Someone who changes the order of a character list might just not know what the pattern for the list is (might be order of appearances, might be alphabetical).
Personally, I feel that assuming good faith for every single edit, even those that are blatantly trolling/vandalism is not so much a way to potentially gain editors, but a way to help perpetuate vandalism. Trolls want attention. Block them and be done with it, instead of assuming they might have a good reason for putting in "THC" as a character's real name.
Orion (T-B-C) 10:02, January 8, 2018 (UTC)

All good points. Edit summaries are always valued and should be used as much as possible. Some edits are blatant vandalism and we do not assume good faith 100% of the time, but we do when it’s not blatant vandalism. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:56, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Dragon Ball FighterZ

Once Dragon Ball FighterZ is released, what sort of information would you be most interested in having added to the wiki? Raylan13@fandom (talk) 00:01, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Well for info, we’ll strive to match the content of our other game pages. Are there any particular new features you’d recommend? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:08, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
Not really - just want to make sure I understand how video games are handled. Sites run the gamut from game overviews to really in-depth articles detailing every aspect of each game. It seems here it's more of the former, as there doesn't seem to be articles with move sets or levels/stages (except as related games are mentioned). Just don't want to overreach when the game comes out ;) Raylan13@fandom (talk) 23:05, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you’re correct. Our intent is to give an overview and general info on the game easily digestible in a couple minutes of reading. We do not (currently) review or rate games, or author strategy guides or walkthroughs. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:45, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

Time travel "theories"

So, in your mind, it's acceptable that the List of inconsistencies says that Arale might have traveled back in time to prevent the dinosaurs from going extinct (meaning, she prevented something from happening in the past, and its effects are visible in the present), even though it's a "time travel fan theory", but it's not acceptable to apply that same logic to Zeno erasing an entire timeline while leaving events from that timeline intact (meaning, he prevented something from happening in the past by erasing the entire timeline of events, but it had no effect in the present), because it's a "time travel fan theory". Do I have that right?

Orion (T-B-C) 12:42, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

Erasing a version of reality altogether is different than time travel. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:52, January 9, 2018 (UTC)
Except that time travel in Dragon Ball doesn't work like the fan theory claims. If Arale had traveled back in time to prevent the dinosaurs from going extinct, she would have simply created a new timeline where they hadn't gone extinct, as opposed to preventing the dinosaurs from going extinct in her own timeline.
Orion (T-B-C) 09:45, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Well clearly there are two kinds of “time travel.” The Capsule device which actually brings you to a new dimension/reality offshoot, and the Time Slipper which is real time travel and alters your current reality. Toriyama made this pretty clear imo. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:16, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

Then according to your logic, if she prevented the dinosaurs' extinction, Beerus would not remember exterminating them, since the timeline - his timeline - would have been altered. He would not remember doing it because he wouldn't have done it.
Orion (T-B-C) 21:04, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

Maybe, but then again we have seen examples of the gods being aware of time travel. I’d be okay with you adding it to the Inconsistencies page, the fact that Beerus thinks he exterminated the dinosaurs despite it not being true in his current timeline. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:51, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

That's already in the article. My point is, the explanation provided simply creates another inconsistency, because it's based on the fan theory that Arale could travel back in time, change the past, and have everyone still remember how it was before she changed it.
Orion (T-B-C) 11:24, January 11, 2018 (UTC)
Hell, every single thing there that I tried to remove is based on fan theories. For example: Bulma's hair color changing because she dyes her hair, Bulma wasn't lying about her age at her birthday party (even though it was blatantly obvious that she was), the Dragon Balls are impervious to damage (this is just wrong, which I tried to remove, but it was reverted), Raditz wasn't misinformed about planet Vegeta's destruction (it's blatantly stated that he was, since Frieza lied to all the Saiyans; again, I tried to remove this, but it was reverted), the Earth in Dragon Ball has the same size as the Earth we know now (not true; yet again, something I tried to remove, but got reverted for no reason), etc.. I could go on, but I'll just close by saying this is why nobody respects this wiki. Blatantly false inconsistencies and "explanations" based on fan theories and speculations are allowed to remain on articles, and damned be anyone who tries to fix them.
Orion (T-B-C) 11:31, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

Toriyama is the creator, not a fan. Him creating content and rules of his universe is at his discretion. I’m sorry you don’t appreciate some of his content, but you disliking a particular series is not sufficient cause to rewrite an article. As for these other edits, your descriptions are convoluted and it’s not clear from them what you want to change or who reverted it. Please use the article talk pages to discuss those issues, because that will allow whoever reverted whichever edits you are concerned with to see your problem with them. “Nobody respects this wiki”... really? Because it’s by far the most popular DB fan site, with by far the most complete content. There are other nice DB sites too, just saying you’re 100% wrong. You wildly making false claims without sources may be why your past edits have been reverted, but again you didn’t specify which edit reversions you are upset about. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:25, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough on the clarity issue. I'll address it on the talk page, inconsistency by inconsistency, when I have time. I want to make one thing clear, however: are fan theories acceptable as explanations for inconsistencies? For example, could I say that a possible reason Monster Carrot and his men didn't die from asphyxiation is because they can survive in outer space? Or that it's possible Uub was allowed to wear a helmet in the tournament because the rules might have changed?

And no, this wiki is not respected. It's often edited, but from what I've seen, the majority of people don't think of it as a good place to get accurate information regarding the Dragon Ball franchise.

Orion (T-B-C) 12:50, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, a rule change is possible. No, it should not be possible for humans to survive in space without equipment. Unfortunately not everything is black and white. We have to use common sense while striving to avoid speculation. Thus changing the rules of a tournament, yes that’s a normal thing to happen time to time. Bulma lying about her age is more likely than a time paradox. Humans breathing in space... not so likely. As for your unsourced “website respect” statistics, I hope you see how silly it looks to post unsourced comments like that on an encyclopedic website. The way it looks is that you are getting frustrated and decided to throw false info instead of continuing your case with logic. If you want to comment on website quality using facts, I recommend sticking to popularity (number of views or number of edits). You could also try true statements (without quantification) like not all edits are good, or you’ve seen a lot of bad edits, although without specifics those are not very meaningful. Long story short, I can see you’re trying to do some good here, so don’t let yourself fall into bad habits. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 18:57, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
Monster Carrot has Magic Materialization. He could've created equipment for his minions. Hell, he could've turned his minions into carrots so they'd survive, and then turned them back.
I'm trying to show you that fan speculation is utterly irrelevant and should not be on articles. I can keep making excuses for why literally anything is not a contradiction, but the fact would remain that they are contradictions, and that whatever fans can say that excuses the flaws present in the Dragon Ball franchise should not be on a self-proclaimed encyclopedia as part of its self-proclaimed informational articles.
If you don't believe me, you can literally just search for criticism of this wiki. I was surprised as well when I found it, but the general consensus seems to be that this wiki is a bad place to get reliable information about Dragon Ball.
Orion (T-B-C) 19:08, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

While your lie there about your imaginary consensus is false, info with sources is not. You failed to read or understand my last note, which I’ll take to mean you giving up on meaningfully contributing. You’d rather cling to statistics which don’t exist than listen to reason. If you’re not willing to stick to official info, you’ll have a lot of trouble editing encyclopedic websites. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:55, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

Gohan's page

God there are like 10 grammar issues on gohans page that i don't have access to to fix somebody do it before i go insane DeletedTheEngie (talk) 17:10, January 10, 2018 (UTC)DeletedTheEngie

Show it then. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 21:16, January 10, 2018 (UTC)


Hi, are you cool with Wikia flagging my other account User:PiesBot as a bot? I need the OK from a bureaucrat here. ~~ IST O L E T H E P I ES π 21:50, January 14, 2018 (UTC)

Why do you need a bot here? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:56, January 15, 2018 (UTC)
I've been making a lot of rapid typo fixes, but a user asked me to request a bot flag. ~~ IST O L E T H E P I ES π 07:08, January 15, 2018 (UTC)
A few things. First, that user, whose signature links to a redirect to an old account, is just annoyed that you are making a lot of edits. They’re not an admin or something like that. Second, please use a second signature page to hide the giant source text of your signature. There are instructions linked at the top of my talk page. Third, it’s not clear to me whether or not you’re actually making automated edits, or you’re just editing a lot. Please let me know, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:35, January 16, 2018 (UTC)
Right, I've fixed the signature. With regard to the latter, I am indeed automating my edits. ~~ IST O L E T H E P I ES π 18:18, January 16, 2018 (UTC)
I'm not annoyed. It's proper practice to have bots flagged as such so their edits don't flood the usual places (Recent Wiki Activity, Recent Changes). I'd tell you to look this up yourself, 10X, but I already know you won't look up anything that disagrees with your PoV.
Orion (T-B-C) 20:33, January 16, 2018 (UTC)

I’m okay with bot status as requested above. Orion, please stop harassing me and lying, thanks. Feel free to fix your signature as I’ve just described to Pies, too. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:06, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

Is explaining why a bot flag is necessary "harassment"? Anyway, I recently changed my account name. The new signature has been updated, but obviously old ones were not.

Orion (T-B-C) 09:21, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

You’re still pasting the whole source code. Lying about my future actions and opinions, particularly in a negative light where no one asked you, was harassment. You popped into a conversation between two other users to drop an insult. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:18, January 18, 2018 (UTC)
I fixed that as well. It was taking some time because I wanted to do something that apparently can't be done.
I popped into this discussion because I was checking out Pies' request and intended to help out, in case you were against it. Furthermore, you're the one who lied about my opinions (see your second reply, where you asserted my request to Pies was due to annoyance).
Orion (T-B-C) 08:41, January 18, 2018 (UTC)
Nope, still posting the whole source in your sig just now. Also you still lied and dropped in to insult me. You said your piece, which was unneeded since I approved the request anyway, so now that you have nothing constructive to say and are obviously just posting here at this point to insult me, please move on to something else. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:43, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Erm, positive news, the bot was approved and has made almost 1.7k edits today, mostly typo fixes. ~~ IST O L E T H E P I ES π 06:41, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks for contributing. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:43, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Goku wrong stats

Someone messed up Goku's height and weight. Should be 175cm and 62 kg, as it says in the official Super Exciting Guide which is whats being used as  source. Mosticochi (talk) 20:31, January 16, 2018 (UTC)

I fixed the info and warned the user. Please let me know if this continues. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:21, January 17, 2018 (UTC)


Did this user use to have a different name or something? "Nada" is Portuguese and Spanish for "Nothing", so I'm not sure why he'd be permanently banned for this username. :S

Orion (T-B-C) 09:29, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Your signature is still displaying the whole source code. Nada is also a common term for nothing in English. The username was an insult. The user said he didn’t care he was blocked. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:12, January 22, 2018 (UTC)


Hello, I've talked to another admin and looked at a few others. I see that no staff is involved with the "discussions" side of the wiki. And they are really misinformed. I was wondering if one of the admin could pop by every now and then or if you guys knew of someone who could be a discussions moderator. Please let me know. Thanks. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 06:34, January 22, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the comment. Is there anyone in Discussions who you would recommend? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:27, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

Well, tbh, no. I haven't seen anyone who seems capable yet. I do moderate discussions on the Fallout wiki but I'm not sure I'm the best candidate because I'm still relatively new on the Dragon Ball wiki. I could do it no problem. Just not sure if others would like it since I'm newer. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 05:13, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

Tell ya what, I'm going to raise a discussion there and see what the community there thinks. I will get back to you on the results. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 11:24, January 29, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good, thanks for your help. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:29, January 30, 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome but it seems the users don't currently see a need for a discussions moderator. I think it would be a nice addition as discussions going unmoderated isn't smart especially since this is a pretty popular wiki. 
Also, I tried to share the link of the discussion I posted but for some reason it was blacklisted as spam, so it wouldn't let me. But if you could, pop by discussions and scroll down a little bit til you see my post titled "Discussions Moderator" and let me know what you think about the situation. Thank you  Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 06:27, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

I read it over, and my takeaway is there are no frontrunner nominees, and no great need for a dedicated moderator at this time—in other words the current admins can handle the current volume of Discussion problems, of which there are very few. Thanks for helping out with this, and let me know if you ever perceive the situation to be changing. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:05, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your time. I mainly made it a point to delve into it because I hadn't seen any moderation. But sounds good. I'll let you know if things get bad or anything. Appreciate it. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 08:06, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

So, here is a prime example why it would be smart to get a moderator or admin to check discussions. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 06:40, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

I deleted the profane comments. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 07:05, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. The user Jiren top has been a trouble maker like that there for a bit now and if you look through their post count I think you will see reason enough that he might deserve a hefty ban. Please consider it. Jiren top disrupts community interaction all the time. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 11:59, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Discussions Moderator Application

Alright I apologize for making this such a long discussion but I have decided that if you and other staff members are ok with it I would like to be a discussions moderator here. Discussions had a bad couple days with users cursing at each other and insulting each other. I don't want to see that and I know all the current active staff are very busy with the main wiki as there is a lot of new Dragon ball content coming still. I couldn't find a guide to a proper way of applying so if there is a proper way please let me know. At first I wasn't sure if I should be the guy but I don't see anyone on /d right now who would be a good candidate and I am currently a discussions moderator for Fallout wiki and if you would like to see some of my moderation check this link out I am an experienced moderator who just wants to help this wiki's /d. Thank you for the consideration. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 02:18, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

We generally look for users who have nominations from others. Are there some users on our Discussion that might recommend you? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:52, February 5, 2018 (UTC):: Thank you for the response. I think this link to a discussions post I made will answer that. And show you a hint of what we deal with there from bad users at the bottom of the thread. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 18:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)Thanks for setting that up. I like your professional, honest, straightforward demeanor. The Discussion community obviously agrees and will benefit from your moderation. Also, I don’t know why Aditya is calling himself a “submoderator”. There is no such thing... anyway thanks for your help and enjoy your new rights as a Discussion Moderator. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:15, February 6, 2018 (UTC): Thank you. And yes, Aditya, along with many other users there are pretty misinformed on what a wiki really is. They are mostly app users so they don't realize all that there really is in a wiki. My main goal there is to make sure there is not trolling or disruption from users but I'd love to educate them on what this wiki really is too. But anyways, for future reference, how would you like me to deal with a user who has earned a ban? Shall I just report it to you or another admin on your talk page? On Fallout wiki I have block user rights so idk the best way for reporting it. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 04:47, February 6, 2018 (UTC)There is no need to report if things are going well. If you need to warn or ban users, that is up to you. If you need help in any way, or if a problem is affecting the something outside of your rights' scope, let me know. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:47, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
I asked because a user needs banned but I do not have ban rights. I only have chat ban rights and that doesn't ban them from discussions. If I was given block user rights then I could ban users who need to be banned from discussions. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 13:44, February 7, 2018 (UTC)
While Discussion Moderators aught to be able to block users from Discussion, they currently cannot. Therefore I am going to give you Admin rights on the DB Wiki, because then you should be able to. Our colloquial term for this is a “Social Administrator.” -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 14:25, February 7, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much. And just to reassure you, I know not to ban anyone for anything on the main wiki. I will only use my rights to ban discussions users who need to be banned. Jon the Don -JBour53 (Talk to my consigliere) 14:32, February 7, 2018 (UTC)

Misaki Ayuzawa 23

Where is dr wheelos personality on his wiki just wondering —This unsigned comment was made by Misaki Ayuzawa 23 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

There is currently no separate section on his article for personality, but feel free to write one! -- SSJ4 Goku(2)

Can you create and write a personality for dr wheelo on his wiki page {unsigned|Misaki Ayuzawa 23}}

I moved this post from where you put it, please keep posting in the same topic if it is about the same issue. Also, please sign your posts so we can tell who is saying what. I’m working on other issues presently, but I’m happy to help you to add the content you are looking to see, if you would like. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:49, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Mind Taking out the Trash?

Specifically this guy? First thing he does is vandalize a page. Kamikaze839 19:24, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

I left him a warning, since he has only made one edit. Please don’t refer to users as trash. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:01, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

Been too long.

Hey, man. It has been years since the last time I checked this place. Life happened and y'know how it goes. I hope you are doing alright, I see the wiki is as good as ever. Ibbe Posey Leave a message

Thanks for saying so. Life’s good, can’t complain. How are you? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:02, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

I'm alright as well, thanks. Just been so busy. Anyways, take care. 'til next time! Ibbe Posey Leave a message

Name on Goku's new form.

Hello, I just would like to hear your opinion on what Goku's latest new form should be named because Neff had named it under "Instinct Complete" and that caused some backlash and controversy on whether that's official. Thanks, SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 06:17, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Looks like it has already been renamed. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:03, February 20, 2018 (UTC)


NegativeSymptom was really rude to MonzyMonz. They said that MonzyMonz must be on some strong drugs to have their opinion.

And Negativeshipper said 'LOL Hulk. And I thought Mufasa's death in the lion king was sad' to me in --Hulk10 (talk) 01:06, February 24, 2018 (UTC)

I’ve removed the notes and I’ll talk to the user. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:33, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you--Hulk10 (talk) 03:36, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Negativeshipper is being rather rude again this time on And Meshifuari Arimota is as well.--Hulk10 (talk) 01:18, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Third Time's a Charm

10X, its time to promote me. I waited a long time for this and you seen my work up here with my communication getting better bit by bit. The only thing I can't do is stop the vandalism and the admins don't always be around when it happens. All I can do is message you while trying to revert the vandalized pages back to normal. ‎GoldenSlimeGildedGinger14 is the perfect example as he just moved the Great Priest's page and created spam pages. I managed to fix the Great Priest's page, but he's not only one, there has been a lot of users appearing to vandalize even ifs just one page. 10X, I've been here four years and one of the few users up here who is serious about this. Remember, I even ended the AlejandBobadilla incident and that is my role as a future admin: to stop the trolls and vandals. DragonEmeperor (talk) 06:19, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

I’ll take a look at this user. I’m concerned about whatever you did to all the episode templates, moving a lot of them and tagging many for deletion that has now left a ton of articles tagged for deletion because they use the templates. I don’t know what you were trying to do, but you’re either doing it in the wrong order or it went wrong. Please restore the episode templates so the articles don’t all look tagged for deletion, or let me know if you hit an obstacle and need help. Either way you should be involving an admin for what seems like a big change. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:14, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
The templates always link the tags to the episodes when I do that. I was trying to have the old templates deleted since we have new ones made. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:27, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
I tried undoing your deletion tags, but that did not fix whatever happened. As I said, I’ll leave it to you. Looks like Bullza already spoke with the user you linked above. I don’t see a need for another admin at this time, but keep up the good work. Areas for improvement would be planning big article/template changes a little better next time, and communicating/coordinating with the admins when you do. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:20, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
Alright. Until that day comes, I just report the vandals. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:27, March 2, 2018 (UTC)


He's vandalizing Bardock's page. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:21, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

I left him a note. Feel free to do the same if you see something like this in the future. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:39, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

List of DBZ Kai episodes page duplication glitch

I was adding the English airdate for the 152 episode of DBZ Kai on List of Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes in the Fusion saga section, but when I added the airdate, the episode summaries for all of the episodes duplicated for some reason. What's going on here and why did it do that? SSJRGokuBlack (talk) 1:39, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

The glitch may be with your editor or browser. In the article history, it showed you adding all the text a second time, so it wasn’t a malfunctioning template or anything. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:43, March 3, 2018 (UTC)
Huh, that's weird. I only typed in that one date and have never had any other duplication issues on other pages I've edited. SSJRGokuBlack (talk) 20:42, March 3, 2018 (UTC)


"How do you make a gana show up above one of the Chinese characters on an article about one of the Dragon Ball manga chapters, The High Price of Education?" Wc12271991 (talk) 00:13, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

I’m not familiar with the command for Chinese font characters. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:14, March 7, 2018 (UTC)

Canon format policy

Hello, I am rather new to this wiki but I am a frequent contributor to the Doctor Who wiki (tardis.wikia). I just read your wiki stance about canon on the manual of style and I noticed that it has an issue similar to one about Doctor Who: there is no official canon.

Now, we obviously know that most readers have their own head canon mostly based on the media (manga, anime or movie for DBS most notably) but when reading a page it is difficult to know which statement fits their canon or not. Furthermore, they often directly contradict each other while staying consistent with the stories of the same media (the DBS manga has Piccolo has 4 fingers while the anime one has 5; the DBS anime has gregory; DBS has the DBZ/kai yardrats design instead of the DB Online/Toriyama one; BoG movie mentions Tarble but not the anime or manga, ...)

With the Doctor Who franchise being probably even more insane than dragon ball one regarding conflicting ranges of stories it adopted a prefix system to document them all and leave quite easy to understand (this page seems a good exemple: here). Basically instead of a common reference tag, each statement is like this (PREFIX: name of the source).

Since both cases seem quite similar in my opinion, and although I know it would take a long time to fully implement, I wondered if this wiki would be open to adopt this system instead of using a subjective classification. As a first draft I could suggest the following prefixes for your wiki: MANGA, ANIME, MOVIE, GAME, DUB, REF (for ref books and interviews), NOTVALID (for stories that were never meant as part of the main continuity like DB Evolution or What-if stories)

Again, sorry if it is a matter that has already been discussed before but this seemed to be an interesting tried and tested system that seemed to fit this wiki so could you tell me wht you think of it ?RingoRoadagain (talk) 22:52, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

When it comes to the god awful Dragon Ball Evolution the characters from it have their own articles so no need for the NOTVALID one for it, now the What-If stories we even say on the character articles when talking about a What-If story "In the What-If story" then we say the name of the What-If story so I don't think it is need for them either. Now the rest I think are needed especially for DBS.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  23:31,3/14/2018 

That’s a nice concept and I think it would work well here, albeit with slightly different tags. My concern is implementing this hundreds of times, manually, in over 7000 articles. We’d need to redo probably a million reference tags by hand. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:42, March 16, 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that it would be quite the undertaking... Maybe we could start with the articles from Special:Insights/popularpages to bring attention to it and so that most users start adopting the system and correct other pages, I guess. Of course, only after seeing if other users agree and settling on the prefixes to use on the Board:New_on_Dragon_Ball_Wiki talk board (since it appears to be the most fitting place to do so) if it's alright with you ? RingoRoadagain (talk) 17:43, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Sure. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:08, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

Nice idea. Perhaps we should probably try to make a template to show above the parallel world characters and that would be a good way to "add a source" since a lot of stuff here remains unsourced and because of that no one knows which movie, character, or event is in the main dimension or not. Though I think we should have an even better idea to distinguish between the parallel world and the main one. SuperBen 1000000 (talk) 18:53, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Canon source and alternate worlds/timelines aren’t really related, and I don’t want to confuse what we’re thinking of doing here. Saying what source the info came from is real-world based and encyclopedic, and already done through reference tags, but this format makes that info a bit more prominent in the articles, albeit more cluttered too. Alternate worlds and parallel timelines are in-universe, often vague distinctions. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:08, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, so I tried to create a thread to discuss this subject on Board:New_on_Dragon_Ball_Wiki but each time it will not allow creation of a thread and will instead lead me to a page called "Undefined". Is there a restriction on the board or is it some sort of bug?

EDIT:Strange I tried again later and it worked...Anyway here is the thread: there

RingoRoadagain (talk) 17:47, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

New discussion moderator

It has been brought to my attention that the discussion side of our wiki is in need of proper moderation. We had a new one promoted recently but he is hardly active. Bullza and Dragon suggested to me that we make User:SuperBen 1000000 into a discussion moderator and I completely agree with him, I think he would do a fine job.--Neffyarious (talk) 15:08, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Also do you have any idea what's happened to Template:Main? It's showing up weird on pages.--Neffyarious (talk) 15:57, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

I’m okay with him being a Discussion moderator. By the way, Admins like yourself can add discussion or chat moderator rights to any user you think needs them. Go ahead and try it for SuperBen, and let me know if you need help. If you already knew that but just wanted to check with me first, that’s cool too, but you don’t need to. You should know, discussion moderators can edit and delete comments, but do not have block rights.
That template seemed to be acting weird yesterday, but looks okay to me today. Is it still weird for you today? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:59, March 16, 2018 (UTC)
It's still acting funny. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:02, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

I did not know I could promote discussion mods. The template is still acting off for me too.--Neffyarious (talk) 16:40, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

I recommend checking the history of all the templates used to build the Main template. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:09, March 17, 2018 (UTC)
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