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== Guess who's back? ==
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==New Dragon Ball movie==
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lord_of_all_Fanboys --[[User:Legato Bluesummers|Legato Bluesummers]] 02:10, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
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Hello! Do you think we could add a link to the new [[Dragon Ball 20th Movie Commemoration Project]] in the local nav? I think it'd be good because then it's easier for users to find. Let me know what you think![[User:Witnessme|Witnessme]] ([[User talk:Witnessme|talk]]) 19:49, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
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:What do you mean by local nav? Also, your user name is great! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:47, March 23, 2018 (UTC)
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Sorry that it took me so long to respond! What I meant was the navigation tabs at the top of the wiki. And thanks! I really loved that movie. [[User:Witnessme|Witnessme]] ([[User talk:Witnessme|talk]]) 21:23, June 11, 2018 (UTC)
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==Edit==
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Dear 10xKamehameha
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Hope all is well, I was reading over the Super Sayain 4 wiki and noticed it doesn't entail the Ozaru multiplication factor. It's stated Golden Great Ape is 10x stronger SSJ3, and SSJ4 is the culmination of Golden Great Ape and another x10 multiplyer. This detail should be clarified for the community and give better insight into the true scale of the conflicts portrayed in Dragon Ball GT. I request that this edit is changed and all is made well and known regarding the Super Sayain 4 transfirmation defintiely 20x stronger than Super Sayain 3 in Dragon Ball GT wikia.Thank You.
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[[User:Josexbanner|Josexbanner]] ([[User talk:Josexbanner|talk]]) 22:49, March 24, 2018 (UTC) Jose Banner
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Dragon Ball Enthusiast
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Thank You
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:You can edit articles when there is something you want to change. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:00, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
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==Blocking==
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There have been a couple of users who have been uploading images that do not belong on this wiki, previously I asked that some would kindly stop uploading these images. This newest [[http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Shanecoolhip#Uploading%7Cuser]] has been warned once already and has proceeded to upload pornographic images onto this wiki I ask you to please do something and have these images deleted.--[[User:Tuxedo12|Tuxedo12]] ([[User talk:Tuxedo12|talk]]) 01:59, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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:The user has been blocked and all his uploads have been deleted. Thanks for the heads up. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:19, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
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== DragonEmeperor is edit warring and adding false information to pages. ==
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Can you give him a warning or something? [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:03, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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I explained to him that Goku's potential was his Great Ape power in Dragon Ball but QuakingStar is too focused on the power level. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 02:08, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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No, I am focused on the fact you are adding false info to an article and you didn't bother to go to the talk page first and see why you were wrong. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:11, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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Your the one that didn't want to wait until an admin appear. The page has to stay the same until an admin decides it should stay or not. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 02:13, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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That is why I am waiting now. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:15, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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:If the information is false, you really don't need an admin to say you can remove it. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 03:21, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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:We only need one to settle the argument or the edit war won't end. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:14, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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:To be fair, DragonEmeperor was the one ACTUALLY doing what the wiki has us do. If anything, Quaking, you were the one edit warring. And, regardless of whether or not the information is "valid", as you put it, you still have to use the talk page after even a single user disputes your edit. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:50, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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:What “pages” are we talking about? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:20, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Drawing_out_Dormant_Power http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Drawing_out_Dormant_Power]
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Unlock_Potential http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Unlock_Potential]
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku?diff=1706186&oldid=1706177 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku?diff=1706186&oldid=1706177]
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Goku's power level was not 1800, therefor this info is false information and speculation. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 04:44, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
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:The edit you linked was a citation, not a power level claim. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:39, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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Yes, and he is claiming Goku became 10x stronger after drinking the ultra divine water, which he was not. He is also going around making unnessary edits, edit warring, and any edit that comes after his edits he undos them with no explanation. He seems to think only he can make edits here, then he claims he is waiting for admins to talk to but never does. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 03:58, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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:Because, Neff found some sources and some other users agreed to reworded it. So that one was settled. P.S., my "unnecessary edits" you say are focusing on cleaning up older pages that haven't been edited on in years. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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Nice excuse, but you don't need to add unnecessary shit to pages just because you feel like it. That's just redundant. We really needed to know Majuub was an earthling AND a human in that sentence?? No, human sufficed. You just want to be right and don't want anybody else making edits if YOU don't agree with them. You are edit warring and you are flexing like you are some sort of admin or sysop. You literally broke rules, yet you didn't even get a warning... that's hilarious. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 04:23, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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Watch the language there, buddy. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:29, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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SHIT is not a bad word, nor against the rules. Neither is the word hell. Don't you come on here acting like a Sysop or an Admin either when you are neither. Mind your business and move on. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 04:36, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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[[Human]] is used for terminology now, so I'm changing every page that has Human to Earthling because that's the page that focus on the race itself. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:45, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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I got a warning from Neff for using that very word. So, yes. It IS against the rules. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:59, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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Link me to the rules page, where it lists the word shit as a bad word and against the rules, until then, until I see proof I will use it as I please. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 05:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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It depends on how you use the word if it is against the rules or not, here is an example for both "You need to take your shit and shove it" is where shit would be against the rules and "Today was shit" is where it isn't against the rules. Actually ExyleCage shit isn't against the rules on the Rules page which can be found under Guidelines or on your talk page in the first message you received but it depends on how you use it if it is really against the rules I don't see a problem with Quaking calling some redundant stuff in articles shit instead of stuff. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|07:31,4/23/2018}}
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== Recommended Videos test ==
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Hi 10X Kamehameha. I wanted to give you a quick head's up that I just posted a [[Thread:615874|forum thread about a new feature test]] here on Dragon Ball Wiki. Let me know in that thread if you have any questions. Thanks! - [[User:Brandon Rhea|<font color="#1A2BBB">'''Brandon Rhea'''</font>]]<staff /><sup>[[User talk:Brandon Rhea|<font color="#1A2BBB">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 19:25, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
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:Got it, thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:42, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
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== David Gray/Sam Majesters is James Marsters ==
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[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU8Mg8nU8AEBB9X.jpg I come] to you about this because you once stated [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Piccolo#Piccolo_Jr. that] IMBd is reputable. [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ and] it lists Marsters as the voice of Zamasu and Fused Zamasu. So [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=70394 does] Anime News Network. So has IMBD lost its reputation or it is still a valid source; that's my question? Other sources i listed are on its Zamasu's talk page.--Made up Character Wiki/Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki Admin [[User talk:Staff Sergeant Jack Jackson|Jack Jackson]] [[Special:Contributions/Staff Sergeant Jack Jackson|Things I do]] <small>[mod]</small> 07:57, May 1, 2018 (UTC)
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:IMBD is a user-generated site like this one, so not ideal as a primary source. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)
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==Rudeness==
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NegativeShipper was rude again this time on this [//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:613839#34 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:613839#34]. He said I was young enough to question why people are needlessly mean and Sheikhtanveerahmed asked me how old are you kid... in response to my statements that GT and Super being trash are only opinions. And Negativeshipper has been rude in the past too. like in this thread [//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:616539#144 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:616539#144]. Like I posted before on an archived message page, sorry if this bugs you.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 17:46, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
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:Rudeness isn’t exactly a policy violation if it doesn’t hit the level of personal attack. I recommend not engaging in conversation with rude people. I didn’t see any cursing or insults. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:27, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
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== Admin body ==
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I personally think we are understaffed, most large wikis have at least two bureaucrats and four admins active. We are a large wiki and in the top thirty for most popular, I think we need to further up our administrative body.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 19:33, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
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:Who would you recommend for new admins? For mainspace, we seem to have 1 bureaucrat and 2 admins regularly active including ourselves. I’m happy to add more if we have well-suited users. Conflict resolution skills are at the top of my list for candidates. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:28, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
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That's the only problem, it's difficult which users exactly. [[User:New World God|New World God]], [[User:YonedgeHp|YonedgeHp]] and [[User:Sandubadear|Sandubadear]] all have admin skills, but are admins on other DB wikis and so would probably not be able to commit to being admins here (and NWG has not edited here all that much). [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] and [[User:Goku20|Goku20]] both have good admin potential, but there are a few issues with them: they don't have the best standing in our community and DragonEmeperor also still needs some growth in how he edits (users have complained several times that he undoes edits without giving reasons). From what I've seen [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y ]] may also be a good candidate. I'd say we need more community input on new admins.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:38, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
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On my part now it really isn't my fault that I am bad standing with some of the community if you look at my talk page four users have a problem with me two of which because in their opinion I impersonate admins (which could be fixed by me becoming one) and the other two because I undone their edits which were wrong like the one that made the edit about how famous Gogeta is. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|11:23,5/15/2018}}
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It doesn't take much for someone to become drunk with the power that they have be given and go on a bindge of being enforcement on policies far more then what is actually required. Oh, they can promise they will be good. But once they get the responsiblities, it can cause them to change their perception on things while having that lust of knowing you can stamp out any saying against you immeditalty with blocking them. It can be like ectasay, it is that easy to do.
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I have seen around the wikia of admins who gone beyond the standards and even necessary procedure of enforcing rules, while being venomous about it. I know [http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Buckimion one] who because of his [http://americandad.wikia.com/wiki/Special:BlockList actions] has a very [http://simpsonstappedout.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:39765 infamous] [http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?98502-Family-Guy-general-discussion-upcoming-episode-thread/page16 reputation ] (contains strong langauge) of running his wikis, despite the high quality work he puts in on them.
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My question is this. What do you have that can convince the community that they believe you will not be like him if you get these privalages? Because frankly i believe he would have been once like us non admin users here on the db wiki before he became an admin. But look what has happened to him. In my view, he is a warning of what can happen to communities that become toxicified because of too much abuse of adminstation power. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 11:59, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
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0551E80Y I know that admin because I used to edit on the family guy wiki until he undone my edit and blocked me, and I personally don't care who in the community thinks I will or won't be like him because I know their are some that will be for me becoming an admin and some against it just because they have a problem with me undoing their edits for good reason and after 10X and Final both talked some sense into I have actually changed from the guy that users (who some of don't edit here anymore) had a problem with me don't anymore and quit a few times those problems where just misunderstandings, now the ones I have mentioned I don't know if they still edit here or not. But I can only prove people wrong or right if I become an admin and quit literally after having been wanting to, to help out with this exact problem of not enough admins and being passed over because I wasn't at the top of the list I really don't care if I become one or not anymore. If I do though I will check as many edits as I can which even goes for Dragon's edits and the ones I don't agree with or are wrong I will undo them and give them a reason (if I am not in a rush) which is all I can do. The users who edit war will have the rules mainly that one explained to them, the ones that want to be vandal's they will be either blocked or banned depending on if it was just one time or not. The other rule breakers will be treated like the ones who edit war. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|12:47,5/15/2018}}
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I suppose it really comes down to trust and faith. I wish you luck. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 13:17, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
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I'm glad I'm not an admin on this wiki. Though I am one on another one. Going power crazed is unfortunate.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 15:00, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
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I can't give a reason on every edit I work cause I do multiple pages at once. Plus, I read through the added material first before removing because most users like to either vandalize or add complete speculation. As the users that have a problem, you can read about them on Neff's talk page. Besides them, I don't really get complaints that much now. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 18:13, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
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:I have reviewed all these users and will promote 0551E80Y and YonedgeHp to admins. DragonEmperor you are almost there, but there are a couple concerns. Lack of communication including good edit summaries when undoing others’ good faith edits is one. Another is defending edits on the grounds they were made by admins in the past. Admins including me are by no means always right, and official sources trump users. This would be especially concerning if you used that argument to defend your own edits and stop using sources. I’m not saying you would do that, just that sources are needed in articles as are edit summaries and other good communication. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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::When people edit war over your edits even when some was sourced, I try to play neutral cause even I'm not sure at times. But, when nobody wants to listen or follow the rules so what can you do. Also, the good faith edits don't be always removed permanently. As for communication, you can see on Neff's talk page with Rey0194 and JohnRich23. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 01:15, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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::I also updated the admin roster by moving two of the listed active admins to inactive, and retiring one previously listed as inactive. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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I appreciate the efficiency, but shouldn't we have gotten more imput - like from Bullza for example - before moving forward? Also, what about the subject of a second bureaucrat?--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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:Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 18:52, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks, 10X Kamehameha, I'm honestly surprised that I was chosen to be a new admin here, even though I'm already part of the administration at the Spanish Dragon Ball Wiki, I'll be here more often to watch out.
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I'd said it on my talk page but i'll say it here as well. Thank you very much for promoting me. I will also do my best. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 11:59, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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Congratulations, Aussie Boy! {{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 13:04, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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:Recommendations are always welcome from any users including admins like Bullza. Neffy you and I both recognized the new admins, and I think requiring a review from all the current admins would be too much. I’m happy to keep serving the Wiki as our local active bureaucrat, and for the number of admins and frequency of adding new ones, I don’t think another is required right now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:32, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
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Seems to me that perhaps a new bureaucrat would be a good idea.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 01:07, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
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:A second bureaucrat to what end? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:18, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
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::No idea. Since I'm not sure what you mean by to what end.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 01:24, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
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As I said, most larger more popular wikis have at least two bureaucrats.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:59, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
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Also could you remove [[User:SSJ4 Vegito]] as chat moderator, they ain't edited since 2015. Also [[User:Nonoitall]] should be listed as retired [[Dragon Ball Wiki:Administrators|here]].--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 12:12, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Cloning question ==
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:Just because someone else is doing something doesn’t make it right, necessary, or even useful. I think chat moderator status is okay to keep, since the relevant policies don’t change much if at all over time, unlike article content and style. As stated on your link, bureaucrats become inactive but not retired. I couldn’t do it if I wanted to anyway. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:42, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
Is this the real name because I think duplication is more appropriate. Cloning is making a geentic duplicate of someone in a labratory. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 19:51, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:You'll have to be more clear about what you're asking. Cloning and duplication are both words that sometimes have a place. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:34, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
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Well as you have seen several users think a second bureaucrat would be a good idea, so it's something that needs to be acted upon. We can contact wikia to have them remove Nonoitall's user rights.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 20:54, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Coding Problems ==
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:You say we need one because other sites need one, but you haven’t given any reason why we need one. Bureaucrats just click the button to add new admins, and we don’t need a second person for the volume of new admin promotions we need and have here. The other user didn’t know why hey thought we needed a second bureaucrat. Since I’ve told you why one is plenty for us right now, and no one else has given any reasons why we would need two, we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:36, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
Hello, 10X Kamehameha. I realized that this wiki has some [[Concept:Dragon Ball sagas|advanced coding]] in it. Do you mind teaching me how to use it on another wiki? {{User:Ultimate Gogeta/sig11}}
 
   
:What exactly are you trying to add? I can try and help out by giving you tips here if that helps. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:37, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
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We are voting on this, it's not your decision alone 10X, it's up to the community. As for reasons, what if you disappear? I've seen bureaucrats disappear without warning. What if there's a decision that should be made by more than one Bureaucrat? Promoting new admins is not all a bureaucrat should do, they should be the ones who update policies and rules as well.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 22:46, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
Actually, I am not trying to add something to this. I actually wanted to use a version of it on another wiki. {{User:Ultimate Gogeta/sig11}}
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Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat then? [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 23:11, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I know what you mean, I meant add to your wiki like you said. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:56, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
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Good idea DragonEmperor.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 23:49, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
::Okay, can you explain it to me? Or are you busy now? {{User:Ultimate Gogeta/sig11}}
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:We don’t decide things by voting, we use discussion and consensus. That means someone actually needs a reason to do something, including adding admins, rollback, chat mods, buteaucrat, etc. I’m patiently awaiting someone to give a reason for the second bureaucrat.
   
Lol I feel like we're going in circles. What exactly are you trying to add [to your wiki]? I can try and help out by giving you tips here if that helps. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:36, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
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:Neff, Wikis don’t work on voting, they work on civil discussion and consensus. I’m surprised you don’t know that as an admin on a Wiki. If bureaucrats disappear, staff can appoint a new bureaucrat at that time. Rules here are determined by civil discussion and community consensus. Admins or bureaucrats have permission to edit the policies, but should not be tyrannically mandating policies without the community agreeing. While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more. Like admins, they are leaders here and help resolve conflicts, drive Wiki style, and article formatting, as well as align the site with Wikia technology advancements. None of this is done alone. The differentiator of a bureaucrat, that is what they can do that admins cannot, is promote new admins. This is in additional to everything the other admins and users do too.
   
:Well, I am trying to add another version of the concept pages ([[Concept:Dragon Ball sagas]], [[Concept:Dragon Ball Z sagas]], [[Concept:Dragon Ball GT sagas]]) and I was wondering how the box appeared like that. {{User:Ultimate Gogeta/sig11}}
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:So by all means, drive policy change through civil discussions and community consensus. Recommend new admins. Be a great editor and suggest and implement new formatting options in articles. Actively participate in the social aspects of the Wiki. All of those things can be done as an admin, and most by any user. But the button you would gain by having bureaucrat rights is not something we need a second person for right now. In the future you are a candidate for it, but comments about voting here as a substitute for discussions and consensus, and about admins making policies rather than facilitating and implementing them, make me hesitate. If you want to be a bureaucrat here, those are the areas to focus on—everything else I think you are good. And you don’t need to beat around the bush, you can just ask, either here or via email. Think about how you would shape the Wiki as a bureaucrat rather than just saying we need to vote on having two. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:11, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
You can always view the code for a page by clicking "edit" or "view source". The same is true for the concept pages. The only code on the page is the code used to make that box. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:14, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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Plenty of wikis work on voting, ours is about community consensus (which is basically voting, just with discussion). You talk about us running on a community consensus and yet you immediately put your foot down and say "we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now" and you promote two new admins near immediately even though only two users have agreed that they are the right ones for the job (not that I don't appreciate the efficiency).
   
== Cloning page ==
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I already gave you what I think is reason enough, but if you need more; bureaucrats hold the most power on the wiki and I don't think that one person alone should have this, it should be more balanced. You say that the only difference between an admin and a bureaucrat is making new admins, but that's not true, in all honesty the bureaucrat is the one who gets the final say in things. I was discussing with a member of wiki's vanguard team a while back about the best way a wiki should be run and they suggested that a wiki should actually have three bureaucrats. I never said I wanted to be the second bureaucrat, I just said I think we should have a second one, certainly I'm a candidate but then there's also Bullza - who may well be better suited for the job than me.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:47, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
My question before is referring to the page. I wasn't sure it was the actual name for the page which I posted on its talk page before bringing it here.
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:We could probably do with more than what we have. I was made a Mod due to their being a lack of them in the first place and since that time Final Chidori has since become inactive so it's just back to where we started.
   
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Cloning
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:Dragon Emperor is the most active of us all and he does a good job at finding things and updating pages and checking most people's edits so he'd probably be an ideal Mod. The only concern there is that I think he could be a bit quick to block people. So he'd need to be fair for that and also the way he goes about undoing people's edits which can lead to edit warring, so he'd need to explain things a bit better.
   
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Cloning [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 02:52, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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:As for the other Bureaucrat, I see where the idea is coming from. Though I don't think there's been a problem up to yet, I do think it would be a good safeguard to have another one just encase. It's not like everything would suddenly change around here, it'd be the same just with a bit more reassurance.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 13:09, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Cloning is fine. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 06:57, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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Neffyarious, I like your point about balance with multiple bureaucrats rather than one, but your comment about some random unidentified user saying three is good does not add to your argument. Also, you said I said the only '''difference''' between a bureaucrat and an admin is the button to promote to admin, but that's wrong. That's the only functional difference. I said, "''While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more.''" Then I went on to describe the role, and yes all of the rest of it is possible as an admin. Ideally positive influence on a Wiki (and everywhere else in the world) is achieved by ideas and actions rather than the power to demote and block. In 6 years as a bureaucrat here, I have only ever threatened to demote an admin once, and never actually had to do so (other than voluntarily and admin retirements). Promoting new admins is one of the most important parts of being a bureaucrat, and I thoroughly reviewed all the candidates that made sense before the last two promotions were made. In honesty only time will time if people with good records and potential will live up to it, but YonedgeHp and 0551E80Y have earned their shots. Your argument swings back and forth between saying a bureaucrat should do more and saying I do too much on my own, and it just doesn't add up. If sometimes I do too much and other times not enough, I'm probably right about where I should be ("you can't make all the people happy all the time"). Also, consensus is not voting with discussion, it is the process of presenting points of view to arrive at a solution everyone can stand behind. Voting means 49% of people may be unhappy and not understand why the decision was made. Consensus takes substantially longer, but involves everyone to a greater extent, and leaves everyone happier with a higher quality resolution.
   
== Troll ==
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Bullza, I mostly agree with your comments on Dragon Emperor, and wrote my own earlier in this thread. I think he'll definitely get there in time. I'd like to see him communicate a little more in addition to what you said. While I don't find your argument for another bureaucrat completely compelling (since Wikia could always appoint a new new bureaucrat if I suddenly and unexpectedly disappeared after now 8 years of regular activity), I do trust in the fact that both you and Neffyarious feel it's the right thing to do. After due consideration of all community members on this Wiki, Bullza you are best suited to become the second bureaucrat. This is based on your outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills. Never forget there is always room to keep growing in all these areas. I am promoting you to bureaucrat effective immediately. Congratulations and please let me know if you have any questions. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:04, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
Can you block [[User:AfandHoshiarereal]]? He is trolling the wiki and leaving unofficial facts everywhere. {{user:Ultimate Gogeta/sig11}}
 
   
:I will handle the situation, thanks for letting me know. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 06:58, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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*You just promoted a new bureaucrat with little input from any users? You made the decision on who it would be completely alone, despite the apparent community consensus we need, and quickly, before anyone could even react. Really? What?--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 23:20, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Hi==
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::Nope, that's all wrong. We've been discussing this for 5 days, and many of our most active users, and all the active admins have contributed to this discussion. While bureaucrats make the final decision on promotions, everyone's input was considered, including 4 years of observing Bullza and 5 years of observing you, the only active admins who have more than a couple days of experience as an admin. So after years of observations, and input from the community and all active admins, Bullza's outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills gave him an edge over you in this case. While the decision to appoint a second bureaucrat, spear-headed by you, was made in less than a week, the preference of candidates was years in the making. This was a well-reasoned, and long-considered decision. If you would like specific examples of the comparison, I can provide that for you. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:00, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
Hi 10X, Sorry for bothering you but there is one User named [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:AfandHoshiarereal User:AfandHoshiarereal] is posting some indecorous and unfavourable comments on these blogs [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Trunten_3900/ASK_Trunten_3900!%3F!%3F!%3F! Blog:Ask Trunten 3900!?!?!?!] and [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ultimate_Gogeta/Ask_Ultimate_Gogeta Blog:Ask Ultimate Gogeta] . Can you check his comments in there? [[File:Perfect-cell-rhino-red-hulk-superman-a-415.jpg|32px]]<span style="font-style: normal; background-color: rgb(115, 221, 240); ">[[User:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky> '''''I'm the only Mean of Perfection'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[User_talk:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' Talk'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[Special:Contributions/Ultimate_Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>'''''Contrb'''''</font>]]</span> 05:58, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks, taken care of. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:22, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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No. You made the final decision without enough community input, it should have been up to the greater community to decide the second bureaucrat, not you alone.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 00:15, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Blog commentor ==
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:No. The only thing I determined was who of the two of you was better suited. I was best suited to do so, after over 4 years of observation and over 6 years doing the task myself. You are mad you didn’t get picked. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:19, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
Hey 10X, I am here to ultimately complain about the new blog comment box. I am here to say what I think and am happy to bring forth support and evidence for my opinion. I would actually like for this new blog comment feature to be disabled as soon as possible. It has proved to me many times to be slow at loading and I can begin typing and then realise that a few words have been cut off from the start of my comment. Now this is just frustrating. I would also like to say that movies are not allowed on this site because of users who may have not the strongest of internet connection. Now for users with poor internet connection this blog comment thing would really annoy them. I think that many users just want to list a qucik comment alot more than users who want to use a picture or bold. So if videos are not allowed, how is this blog editor being put on?
 
   
I would also say that in the past it was just as easy for users to use bold or italic text. The only difference now is that pictures are a little bit easier for inexperienced users. I have also not seen any clear evidence of people adding more pictures or anything to blogs anymore except for one user who spammed with a bunch of meme thumbs. My last point is that I beieve it makes us look in a way unprofessional in a sense. That is one thing I really don't want to happen. It seems as if this feature was installed purly for new users who don't understand code. I think it may also stop users from learning useful code. We need users to learn code that so in the future we can have as many users as possible who know how to do even the small things like sigs, adding pictures by code, polls etc. It is also a pain for users who like to use correct grammar. Now when going to comment on a blog it is not in source mode and as a result does not show speeling errors/typos. Now this is something that I believe will make our wiki look very "nooby" as they say.
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No, a decision like this should have been decided by the greater community. I'm not mad, just surprised at what you're doing. I really don't think this is the proper way of going about things.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 00:26, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
I think that this feature should be removed as it is making a disadvantage and is strongly contradicting the desicion that has been made for videos. I also do not want to see our wiki become one where many users need everything pointed staright out to them and need a little button to add stuff. Thanks for reading man. For the spelling erros in there I am sorry because I was on a laptop some of the keys are dodgy and it doesn't correct my mistakes while in source mode. And yes, I just finished an argumentative essay last week for school and we have been doing persuasive languag in class. {{User:BardockGoku/sig5}}
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:I don’t believe you. A few posts ago you were against community consensus. And you have been a part of other promotions and never pushed for community consensus back then, only this time when you got passed over. Rather than stew, I recommend you work on the areas I pointed out. Make the Wiki better and you have a good shot at being bureaucrat in the future. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I understand your frustration, but Wikia staff makes the software changes like these. Feel free to use the MonoBook skin like I do, which disables most of the slow-loading features that can be done equivalently with code as well as showing articles with the full width of your monitor (no empty regions on the left and right), including the new blog comment editor. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:19, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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I was never against community consensus. The only promotion I was part of was Bullza's adminship, and there were a large amount of users who agreed Bullza was the best candidate, you even waited for my input before going through with it.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:28, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
Okay I will see if I like it or not. but is it possible like if you were to say to them, "We would like the blog editor removed from the DB Wiki" is that possible or not?{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 05:36, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
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:Well that’s clearly not true, since you spurred the last two admin promotions in this very thread, and also in this thread you recommended a vote. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:41, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I'm not sure. Usually they think things out a lot so the decision is final, like when they change skins occasionally. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 06:17, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
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You'll find that after you promoted those two I said "I appreciate the efficiency, but shouldn't we have gotten more input - like from Bullza for example - before moving forward?".
   
:So I want it changed like real desperately. Who can I talk to about it being changed?{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 10:38, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
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Anyhow, I was discussing this subject with a member of the vanguard. You were technically in the right because we don't actually have a proper procedure for promotions, however due to our wikis size we should implement a procedure. A forum should be opened for us all to discuss proper promotion procedure.
   
==Deletion Policy==
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You were being a hypocrite when you said we should follow consensus but then proceeded to choose a second bureaucrat on your own, but as I said, we don't have a procedure in place so that can be overlooked.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 13:13, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I would just like to address something else that I've noticed. I looked at our [[Dragon Ball Wiki:Deletion policy|Deletion Policy]], and I saw that it is only one sentence, and offers no elaboration. The way I see it, there are more issues that can at least be mentioned, and so it would help to offer some more explanation concerning our deletion policies. Thoughts? [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 16:04, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Sure thing, I'll add a little more detail and a link to the deletion template page. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:27, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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:(posted after the note below, for organization) The second bureaucrat was your idea. I’m the only one here with experience as this site’s bureaucrat, and the only thing I picked was Bullza over you, with the current admins’ input including yours. Bullza has stated you would have been fine, and you have stated Bullza would be fine. I’m growing tired of your lies. We do have a process here, which you should know after being an admin here for years [[Dragon Ball Wiki:Administrators]]. The process is the bureaucrats choose people to promote. I was going beyond that procedure by collecting input from others first. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:10, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Super Android 13 trivia ==
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[[Forum:Promotion procedure|Here]], I made it in the old forum style, I hope that's okay with you. We can always move it to the current forums if that would be better.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 13:27, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
The trivia before simply said "Gold hair". When Gohan and Goku exited the Time Chamber they were Full Power Saiyans. Everyone should know that. Plus their hair is more white than gold. And, Trunks and Vegeta were Ascended Super Saiyan upon leaving the Time Chamber. Trunks would not show his Utra Super Saiyan form in front of Vegeta. The trivia is simply way to vague by just saying "gold hair" and "beyond" Super Saiyan. This information needs to be in the trivia. As for saying "several Super Saiyan power ups" besides Super Saiyan 2 and 3. There are only three: Ascended, Ultra, and Full Power. These additions are much more revelent. [[User:Super Saiyan Historian|Super Saiyan Historian]] 21:05, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:This is not the correct place to address this. Please read my edit summary as it will explain my edit, remind you not to edit war, and remind you to use the article's talk page. There are many other members of the community and everyone deserves a say in what goes in the articles. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:14, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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:That is confusing. There is already a page for the procedure, use its talk page. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:10, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Sockpuppet? ==
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::I started a thread there for you. I welcome the community’s input on if and how to modify our official process. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:22, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
This user seems like a sockpuppet. His username and the fact that he only made one contribution which was a blog comment that had nothing to do ith the opic makes me suspicious.
 
   
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Chuck_Norris_has_joined_the_chat [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 02:33, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks, I suppose it would be better to put it in the admin talk. It would have been handy if you could have moved Bullza and I's comments there when you deleted it though.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:07, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Yes probably, but we really can't issue blocks without solid proof. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:05, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sorry for that. I considered it but your comments were specific to it being a forum and I didn’t want to edit your words to make it fit. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 17:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:then they cant ban me cause there was no proof [[User:Lordfreezer|Lordfreezer]] 01:17, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
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::While you did start that convo in the wrong place, please don’t stick new text as a replacement for my intro to that thread. It makes it falsely seem like I am responding nonsensically. Also it included you saying there is no process on the talk page of the article containing the process, which made no sense. Be careful when moving around comments and just avoid doing so for other peoples’ if possible, thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 17:51, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Dude you admitted that you were Vegtassj5 to me in chat, do I need anymore proof than that? {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig13}} 01:21,
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Gotcha, I put it back below yours and adjusted it a bit to fit the context.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 18:29, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
:March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:i said im doing what goldjermyj did who is now buu wonka and starting over because im hated and now even more hated [[User:Vegtassj5|<font color=blue style=background:red>We got to work for what we want or well never get it</font>]] 01:43, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
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== SilverKaiser ==
   
==67.142.179.23==
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This guy keeps vandalizing Broly, renamed it, and even wipe the page. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 03:07, July 13, 2018 (UTC)
Hey 10X!! I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your work. Without you, this wiki would be nothing. Heck! Without you, I would be nothing! I want you to know how much I lvoe reading you comments on blogs, and your messages to other users! When you get on chat, I have to log off because I'm too embarrased for you to see me. I've wished for so long to tell you how I feel, but as long as you're an admin, I can't tell you! I know it's painful to hear, but we must pretend we don't know each other. For the sake of this wiki! Please remember, you're my entire world. I admire everything you do and I wish to be exactly like you. LOVE ME!!!!! [[Special:Contributions/67.142.179.23|67.142.179.23]] 08:40, March 26, 2012 (UTC
 
   
:Wow, that was quite a statement! Haha, I'm glad you approve of my work and I hope you enjoy the site. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:57, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
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Also keeps shoving his silly little fan fiction into the page too.(Kaleifla 03:11, July 13, 2018 (UTC))
   
==MartinBourneFreund==
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:Thanks, I gave him a 1 week block. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:58, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
Well,thanks.I swear that i will contribute the advance of DB wiki,try to sustain my bad launguage and bad launguage of the others,upgradethis site,and share everything with others(by the way,my favourite is yamcha,and i'm very solid with the DBZ knowlege(maybe words doesn't mean all this,but i will try to make this at least 70% come true)).
 
   
LET THE KNOWLEGE FLY!!!! {{unsigned|MartinBourneFreund}}
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== Bot ==
   
== Yajirobe's Prairie Question ==
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Hey 10X, I want to turn [[User:DragonEmeperor Xeno|this account]] into a bot. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 18:27, July 13, 2018 (UTC)
Quck question about [[Yajirobe's Prairie]]. Is that the actual name? Geographically it wouldn't even be anywhere near a prarie. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 05:54, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:I did but no no one answered it. I figured it'd post it here to see what you thought. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 20:52, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
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:No, you’ve been making too many edits against consensus that all have to be undone, currently this parallel nonsense. You cannot have a bot at this time. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:55, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
Oh okay that's fine. Usually you should wait about a week or two on talk pages before assuming there will be no answer. For instance, it looks like someone answered on the talk page less than 6 hours after you asked the question. Remember that people are in different time zones and may not edit every day : ) {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:09, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
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:This only happened because some of us thought we should separate the films from the main story after Broly's return. Plus, I need the bot for different task that's too time consuming right now. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 05:00, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
Yeah JeanGabin666 fortunately saw it but I didn't think anyone would. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 18:32, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
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:Some people always think some things. Don’t reformat the whole site into twice as many articles or more on a whim. What’s this project? Stop making major changes to many articles at a time without getting admin input. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:05, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
==ФантомноеОрион БД==
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:The bot is for minor edits I can't focus on like fixing dead links or changing redirects to the main link, so I left a message on the CheckerPage for one. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 05:10, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
get me back on the chat[[User:ФантомноеОрион БД|ФантомноеОрион БД]] 02:54, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:You were kicked out of chat by [[user:Kotsu the EM Wave Hero|Kotsu the EM Wave Hero]], you will have to talk to him. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:08, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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== RE: Parallel ==
   
==Hey==
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Hi. regarding your message, it is not "my so-called parallel characters", there were already characters like that because this wiki was seperating the movie versions of the characters after it was announced there was going to be a Dragon Ball Super version of Broly, so I did not make that up. Also, there was a red link for it on the Goku Parallel and Gohan Parallel. I am sorry that there was a bit of a mess upon the creation of the article. [[User:Sclera1|Sclera1]] ([[User talk:Sclera1|talk]]) 22:30, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
Hi, 10X, Can you tell me how can I detect unsigned users on my talkpage who leave massages without typing their sig? Please respond to my talkpage. Thank You [[File:Perfect-cell-rhino-red-hulk-superman-a-415.jpg|32px]]<span style="font-style: normal; background-color: rgb(115, 221, 240); ">[[User:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky> '''''I'm the only Mean of Perfection'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[User_talk:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' Talk'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[Special:Contributions/Ultimate_Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>'''''Contrb'''''</font>]]</span> 15:20, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:You can use the history tab to find out who wrote on your page. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:28, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:Went to the Manual of style and I understand, sorry about the mistaken assumption, thought it was an official thing, thank you for the clarification [[User:Sclera1|Sclera1]] ([[User talk:Sclera1|talk]]) 22:34, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Thank you very much for your help. [[File:Perfect-cell-rhino-red-hulk-superman-a-415.jpg|32px]]<span style="font-style: normal; background-color: rgb(115, 221, 240); ">[[User:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky> '''''I'm the only Mean of Perfection'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[User_talk:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' Talk'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[Special:Contributions/Ultimate_Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>'''''Contrb'''''</font>]]</span> 02:51, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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== Broly ==
   
==Wallaceheros==
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Are we allowing people to add information on the Super variant of Broly to the Triple Threat Broly's page? Because that's what's happening. Considering it's confirmed to be a completely different Broly, they're essentially adding information to the wrong character. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 03:00, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
Can you come to chat because I have a problem between the users and I please? [[User:Wallaceheros|Wallaceheros]] 22:39, March 29, 2012 (UTC) {{User:Wallaceheros/sig}}
 
   
:Sure, I'll swing by now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:28, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:Not completely different. We’ll see. For now yes it’s okay. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:18, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Can you please make them stop? ==
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::Actually He Takes Inspiration From The Original Broly But He's Not The Same Broly. He's Supposed To Have A Different Personality And Background. EDIT: Idea For The Parallel Pages Though, Why Not Put Them In Different Tabs? Like, Some Wikias Have It So Like, Synopsis And Etc. Are All Put Into Different Tabs On The Page. The Bleach Wikia Has Something Similar, They Put Image Galleries And Stuff Into Different Tabs. U Could Do The Same Thing For Broly But Instead Have Movie 8 And Super Movies As The Names. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 04:00, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
Please hurry cause I'm tired of this. I just need the admin please 10X, nobody don't care about me, but do you know that the users are ignorant and agressive and also mean and that's just gotta stop can you please make stop so I can be happy about it? Please Please I beg of you?!!! {{User:Wallaceheros/sig}}
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:Thanks for the comment. Please read the Manual of Style talk page for comments addressing your idea in the past. Also, in English we only capitalize the first letter in a sentence and proper nouns. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:29, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Yet another quick question by P19==
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== The Parent Tab 2 ==
What are orphaned pages? {{User:Piccolohan19/sig7}} 16:57, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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{{Parent Tab 2
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|maxwidth=20
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|tab1=Introduction
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|tab2=Personality
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|tab3=Biography
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|tab5=Power
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This is my proposal right here for pages too big only. I managed to fix right and got the signature colors in. This is what every fandom site uses and we shouldn't be the only ones. I want everybody to think this over first before shooting me down. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 00:06, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:From the site's defintion, "The following pages are not linked from or transcluded into other pages in Dragon Ball Wiki." Basically it's a page you'll never get to through a link, you have to know to manually type it in or you'll never find it. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:30, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
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:I agree wih Bullza, both on the functionality needing to be cross-platform and on this being a topic for talk:MoS. I am generally in favor, let’s do it the right way. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:41, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
::Oh, ok. Thanks. {{User:Piccolohan19/sig7}} 04:34, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
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::This Thing Here Is What Should Be Used To Separate Different Versions Of Characters, IE Xeno Goku, Regular Goku, Movie 8 Broly, Super Movie Broly, Etc. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 05:41, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Zacura==
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== Sorry to intrude ==
ok, 10x, why are you undoing my edit?!?! Anyone who saw or read the manga knows that the sayians were hit head on. Speed had nothing to do with it. and I already sent a message to <span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.917969); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; ">Jeangabin666. [[User:Zacura|Zacura]] 01:49, March 31, 2012 (UTC)</span>
 
   
:I will gladly discuss this, but like I said you need to bring it up on the article talk page. This gives all users a chance to comment, instead of only people watching my talk page today. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:30, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, it's been a while! Hope this isn't too out of turn, I found [https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nazim-193 this user] spamming a lot of edits, most (I think) of which are false based on what I could tell from external googling. I wouldn't have done anything but I checked his talk page and noticed that he'd been getting banned a lot for inserting false information so I went ahead and banned him. If that was in error, I apologize :0 I figured that, due to the fact that it's morning, people might not be online to stop or confront edits at this pace - and I just happened to be around. Cheers, {{User:Shakuran13/sig7}} 14:06, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== User:CleverNoob ==
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:You’re good, thanks for the help! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:23, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
[[User:CleverNoob]] is insulting other users. Check the messages he has left on my talk page. {{User:Jeangabin666/sig}} 02:18, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thank you! {{User:Jeangabin666/sig}} 02:56, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
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== Something interesting ==
   
Taken care of. Hopefully he'll go over the rules and return without the issues we had now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:32, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
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Dragon Ball Tour 2018's section of Comic-Con gave us our [http://i63.tinypic.com/2dbm05j.jpg first official usage of the term canon]. You think this means we should move the DBS manga up to tier 1 canon? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 16:36, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Hercule ==
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:Who made the poster? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:26, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
Jeangabin666 removed information in trivia about the voice actors. So I figured the info on King Yemma should be removed as well. Was... I... Wrong! --[[User_talk:MrSmartyMax|<font color="blue" face="Arial Black">MrSmartyMax</font>]] 03:08, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:"Information about the voice actors" is super vague, lol. Could you give me a link or something? It's probably not a big deal but I just like to make sure we're consistent. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:31, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
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The tour is run by [[Shueisha]] and [[Toei Animation]]. Btw, it's a [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/1/16/Dragon_Ball_manga_timeline.png/revision/latest?cb=20180720195055 whole wall] not just a poster. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 09:49, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
   
==MissGohan334==
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:So this statement is the publisher’s words. If we move the manga to the top level, then we should also demote the Toriyama-written DBZ/Super movies. The question is, do we make a judgment call that Toriyama’s direct writing (movies) overrules the publishers marketing? Literally speaking, all canonical usually means is written by the original author (as opposed to the official/accepted group of stories like how some fan communities use it). So we must ask ourselves, was the intent of this marketing to tell fan communities that the manga overrules the movies and anime in terms of continuity (unlikely), or was it to tell them the manga is from Toriyama and if you liked DBZ you will like DBS too? I think the latter is more likely. I percieve this as marketing to drive sales, not distinguishing guidance between versions of DBS. Right? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:57, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
Whats up peeps?? {{unsigned|MissGohan334}}
 
   
:Not much, you? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:40, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
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:The latter would seem more likely. I don't think it would sit well for the manga to actually be considered a higher level of canon than the movies that Toriyama wrote himself. Especially when the anime and manga were just doing an adaptation of those movies in the first place. Still I'd say the manga should be considered just as canon as the anime.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 08:09, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
   
==HELP==
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::I agree as well. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 09:58, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
Hey, 10X, Can You help me? My talkpage has been just destroyed and everything on my talkpage has been misplaced. That was because of me. I can't understand what to do. Can you please come on my talkpage and check what happened? It's very urgent. I want every massage to be settled as they were before. Can you please help me? Thanks. [[File:Perfect-cell-rhino-red-hulk-superman-a-415.jpg|32px]]<span style="font-style: normal; background-color: rgb(115, 221, 240); ">[[User:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky> '''''I'm the only Mean of Perfection'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[User_talk:Ultimate Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' Talk'''''</font>]]<font color=white style=background:sky>''''' //'''''</font>[[Special:Contributions/Ultimate_Cell|<font color=white style=background:sky>'''''Contrb'''''</font>]]</span> 14:42, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I've restored it. {{User:Jeangabin666/sig}} 14:46, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Meeting on chat ==
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I don't mind it not moving, mostly just wanted to bring up that we got our first ever reference to a DB canon. Why would we have to move the Toriyama movies down though? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:20, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
   
Hey, can you meet me on chat or are you busy right now? {{User:Ultimate Gogeta/sig11}}
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:I agree with Bullza and 0551 on the manga being at the anime level, which is actually where it already is. Also agree with Bullza on the latter (same author) canon meaning being most likely in this case. Whereas series like Star Wars are very rigid and serious in continuity, DB creators thus far don’t seem to mind having 3+ alternate versions of things, with multiple timelines and parallel universes even within a single media type and plotline, as long as the story stays fun and exciting and they are making $$. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:33, July 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
==''Edit War''==
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== Shallot Images ==
Hello, You must be referring to the Icarus page, well that wasn't a real edit war, since we already solved it. I do not really see why you have to send such a threatening message that just ignores all of my hard work for the wiki. I can also see what you are doing with Jeangabin666, that is called favoring a person, and that is pretty corrupt. - {{User:SaiyanElite/sig}} 09:46, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Please read the rules to find out what an edit war is, since whether or not it had been solved has nothing to do with it. Further, it really wasn't solved, an admin was requested via edit summary to sort it out. Additionally, even if it had been solved, it still was an edit war. If having been solved made things no longer be an edit war retroactively, then it would be true that there have never been any edit wars on any wikia ever, since they are all solved now. This is obviously not the case. As far as your hard work, I am not ignoring it. However, to overlook someone breaking the rules due to their seniority would be unethical, rather it is true that all users are bound to follow all rules at all times. Getting three warnings for breaking the same rule many times despite reminders not to is the sum of the lenience you are awarded.
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Hello there, I have a question regarding uploading images. I attempted to upload two screenshots I took from my phone of Shallot wearing Vegeta's armor and Goku's Gi, illistrated in-game art specifically. I first tried to add them to his personal gallery and that didn't work, and I haven't edited a wiki article in years so I was afraid of messing something up lol.
   
:As far as Jeangabin666 goes, I don't know what you are referring to. You got a warning, and he got a warning, it could not be more fair. In his, I referred to a previous conversation I had with him where he told me he wants to be a better editor and stop doing some unfavorable things like edit warring. His positive attitude and the fact that he expressed that he wants to change is why he was not threatened with a block. Your attitude that you did nothing wrong and it is others' fault that you persistently break a rule is does not help your case. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:46, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
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Then I tried adding them to the general images section where new images show up and can be added, and neither were allowed to be uploaded. Any idea what to do?
   
Yes I know what an edit war is, I've read the rules and manual of style yesterday very thoroughly. I have never stated it was the fault of others, I only said you are favoring a person. And you never had such a conversation with me, you don't know my opinion about edit wars, so don't act like you do. I don't like them as well. And with the ignoring my hard work part, I don't mean that I should be threated better as other users, (as I can make out of your statements), but it just doesn't seem right that you get all that aggressive immediately. If you disagree with me, it's fine to just send me a mail and we'll sort it out too. If another edit war occurs, I'll try my best to leave the page as it was and solve the problem in the talk page. - {{User:SaiyanElite/sig}} 11:07, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks [[User:AsuraDrago|AsuraDrago]] 19:49, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I still honestly don't understand what you mean when you say I'm favoring Jean. Unless you are specific, I won't know what you think was unfair. When a user breaks a rule after three warnings, I let them know that a block is on the way if they continue. It's nothing personal toward you, this is the same for everyone. I apologize if I come off as aggressive, but it was by no means immediate- it was after the third time. If you want to have a conversation, simply do it. I'm happy to hear you say that you've read the rules and hope to edit war less in the future. Unfortunately I'm quite busy at the moment, and don't have time to engage every user via email after every infraction, but you taking the time to reason with me here shows me that you care. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:36, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
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:Hello and welcome to the Wiki. I checked the Shallot article and there are no editing restrictions specific to the article. There may be general image upload reatrictions for new users, in which case just keep editing and eventually the system will categorize you as “autoconfirmed” rather than new. When you weren’t able to upload, did you get any meaningful error messages? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:27, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Hello==
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==Discord server==
You have been sent a rather important E-mail. Thank you. Also, is there any notifiaction of when I get a response? Like the "New message" button when you're sent a talk page message? [[User:BrolyFan76|BrolyFan76]] 14:59, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
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What do you think of setting up a discord server for Dragon Ball wiki? Barely anyone uses wiki chat anymore, so lots of wikis have set up the discord widget that appears on the sidebar. --[[User:Stryzzar|Stryzzar]] ([[user talk:Stryzzar|talk]]) 03:47, August 13, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I don't think there is a notification like that on the site. Thanks for the info though, I appreciate it. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:47, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
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:What is a discord server, and what does it have to do with chat? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:18, August 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Re: ==
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::[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord_(software) Discord] is a social media app that's become immensely popular lately. Many wikis have use it to substitute the wiki chat as discord provides a lot more features such as voice chat and image/video sharing. The way it works for a wiki is people click on a link on the wikia sidebar and it takes them to the discord, though they need to make a discord account first. For instance [https://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity Arrow wiki] has one to the right side of Recent Activity. --[[User:Stryzzar|Stryzzar]] ([[user talk:Stryzzar|talk]]) 14:03, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
Alright, sounds good. It can get pretty crazy in there, and I admit being a little lenient on some things. You just keep handling your adminy stuff. ^.^ {{User:KillerBaka9/sig9}} 21:21, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sounds like the only big change would be voice chat, which I’m not sure is an improvement. Would all users have to download that app? Is the app affiliated with Wikia? Is it free? Does is work on all hardware devices? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:47, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Mods ==
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::I'm familiar. Discord isn't affiliated with Wikia as far as I know. Downloading the app would probably provide the best experience but it can also open in-browser too. It works on desktop and mobile, and it's free. I personally like this idea, our chat's been pretty dead in the past few years and Discord is extremely popular. The Dragon Ball subreddit actually has a Discord server with a ton of users on it too if you want to check it out and see how it works. —{{User:Final Chidori/shortblue}} 20:56, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
Well 10X I really don't see the problem. I am very strong by my policy of saying stuff against other users. Like 'bagging' other users and what not. Just being mean to other users is a no go for me. My main thing that I do is when there are 10 or less people even I can go for a swear if I want because we have all agreed that it is fine to swear. But as soon as someone asks us to stop. It is stop just like that. I will try make sure that people know how I go about banning in chat alot more now. Tell them that if they just pm me I will be their immediately. Cheers.
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Your word’s good enough for me, FC. I’m on board. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:13, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}}
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== Delete this fan fiction page please. ==
   
Okay, but I am just doing what you told me I could do last time I spoke about mod rights.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 00:58, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Dragon_God https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Dragon_God] (Kaleifla 08:33, August 19, 2018 (UTC))
   
Okay, but if I am with a user maybe a few years younger then me and he maybe wants to talk about the issue of sex which is completely normal at this age. That should be fine shouldn't it?{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 01:18, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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:YonedgeHp deleted the article. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:04, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
   
I am not sure if this is just me or what but i would never talk to my parents or whatever about life issues and stuff, I save that for my best mate and maybe very good wiki mates. Also believe it or not more people are here for the social aspect than the Dragon ball aspect. This is not just a wiki for Dragon Ball man, it is a community now. People can come and ask questions without feeling judged or embarrassed. So for that sexual topic thing, If I am in chat with me, Ghost, kaio, Kotsu and maybe two younger users. If they want to talk about sex maybe, I would be down for helpign them out with that, or even like issues at school or at home.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}}
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== Dragon Ball Encyclopedia ==
   
Okay then. But in private chat it is fine yeh?{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}}
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Hello! This is a new account as I've honestly just forgotten every other account I've ever had.. Point being: What happened to Dragon Ball Encyclopedia? I rememember back in like 2011 when I was a kid that this site pretty much shut down and switched to there but seemingly switched back in like 2015. Do you have a reason why by any chance? Any information would be appreciated! [[User:TheRealSkelebro|TheRealSkelebro]] ([[User talk:TheRealSkelebro|talk]]) 04:54, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Userbox Idea==
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:One or two of the admins at some point were annoyed at some Wikia change and decided to make their own site to rival this one. Most of us, including myself, continued spending most of our time here, but helped out at the new site from time to time. After about a month, most of us lost interest and stopped helping out over there much at all. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:44, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
Hello again. I'm not entirely sure I had to ask for approval for this, but I got an idea for some userboxes that I didn't see. Could I make some userboxes indicating that the user is a fan of a certain anime (besides DB)? For example, for a Naruto one, it would say "<Username> is a fan of the Naruto franchise.".
 
   
Also, if you approve, should a link be included to a Wikipedia article or Wikia site pertaining to that franchise? [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 04:09, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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== Manga vs Anime (Super) ==
   
:Making those userboxes is okay, yes. However, don't put links to other sites in them. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:37, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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I posted this on the Manual of Style talk page but I was wondering if Super's manga and anime should be split up into different sections for the characters. I think that would make those pages more organized and stop the repeating "in the manga" and "in the anime" on most of them[[User:Creeperman129|Creeperman129]] ([[User talk:Creeperman129|talk]]) 04:22, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Alright, I'll get on it ASAP. [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 04:47, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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([[User:Misaki Ayuzawa 23|Misaki Ayuzawa 23]] ([[User talk:Misaki Ayuzawa 23|talk]]) 21:08, September 1, 2018 (UTC)). Theres a spelling error on nappas wiki page on his power section on the mamg and anime it says Despite this, he still was unable to actually calm any harm on Goku. I dont why soneone put tbe words calm harm on but that just dosent make any sense is all im saying
   
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:No, that would make all the articles twice as long and extremely redundant. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:10, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Abdul-Saiyan Ninja==
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How would merely splitting up the canonicities on the pages be redundant? It'd be placing the same information, or just a little bit more, into each of their pages. For example, just look at Frost's biography page. Its ordering is a mess with it flip flopping from "in the anime" to "in the manga". I'm just saying if we just put sections for each of them it would be a lot easier for people to get info. [[User:Creeperman129|Creeperman129]] ([[User talk:Creeperman129|talk]]) 04:18, September 8, 2018 (UTC)
hello ---can you please unblock me from the chat list ---i was blocked trying to defened my self against goten66 and some other users... so can you please unblock me thanks [[User:Abdul-Saiyan Ninja|Ninja Please!!!]] 05:05, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:I didn't ban you, Kotsu did. You'll have to ask him how long the kickban is for. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:37, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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:If someone reads something here and then they have to read the whole 90% same thing a second time, for every sentence, papragraph, section, and article, then they are redundantly spending twice as long here to get the same amount of info. Also, if we did this with manga and anime, we would robably get pulled into doing it for other media types as well. It would take readers longer and overall make it much harder for people to get info here. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:01, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Revision deletions ==
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I'm not saying we should copy and paste like the histories from Goku into manga or anime portions. For those things where the stories are basically te same, I understand keeping it to one history bio. But for characters in Super it's undeniable that the manga and anime are different. We don't even have to seperate the personality sections or anything, just the history and maybe power. It wouldn't just be copy pasted information prior to that, it would be detailing the history of the character in each respective continuity. I can take an image of what I'm thinking of in case I'm not clear enough. 
Please delete all revisions of ''File:DBSD-6-pg2.jpg''? They're useless. {{User:Guysponge22/Sig}} 19:49, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:That file is currently in use. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:39, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
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And apologies for seeming super stubborn about this [[User:Creeperman129|Creeperman129]] ([[User talk:Creeperman129|talk]]) 20:02, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Family ==
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:Just look at [https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Wiki:Sandbox sandbox], I already had an example of what your talking about. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 20:25, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
Hiya, Tenny. I was curious about something I read in the Manual of Style; why are family connections italicized? I mean, it seems unnecessary, 'cause it's not a title of a movie, book, or album, nor is it Latin text. Just wonderin'. <small>—''This comment was made by the most awesome user on this wiki, '''[[User:November Blue|November Blue]]''' ([[User talk:November Blue|the most awesome user's talk page]] • [[Special:Contributions/November Blue|the most awesome user's contributions]])''.</small> 22:16, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:I'd like to second this sentiment. It seems completely unnecessary to have that info in italics, especially considering many of the pages don't even follow that rule. {{User:Shakuran13/sig5}} 22:26, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
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::You guys are saying it won’t be copy-pasted, but it’s basically copy-pasted in that example. Also this will inevitably happen with every section, because all the things you’ve said (undeniably different) apply to everything in this and nearly every other series with multiple media types. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:49, September 12, 2018 (UTC)
   
Good point! While everything in the manual of style must be followed for all articles, I encourage you to bring this up on the Manual of Style talk page. If you get a consensus, we will change it and you can change the articles to agree with the revision. Since the community makes the rules, these are the channels to follow, rather than me changing it on my own. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:42, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
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==Translation of Madōshi (魔導師)==
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Is "Demon Guide Master" a direct translation of Madōshi (魔導師)? - [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 01:48, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Problem==
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:I don’t know. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:49, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
Hey 10X, I dont' know how but my total edit counts has been reduced somehow. I didn't delete any comments from any blogs or any changes that made by me on any pages or anything like it that could change or reduce my edits. I don't know but I think my account may be hacked by someone which is why my edits has been decreased. Last time I saw my edits were close to 929-930 but now it is only 886. How became that possible? I have no idea about that but I want you to check my account and also any hacker who might have hacked my account. Thank you.
 
   
{{User:Ultimate Cell/sig3}}
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:Madōshi is "Mage" or "Wizard" I think. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:59, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
:The wikia servers probably updated themselves considering it is Tuesday. Also, the number of deleted contributions you have does match up with how much your edit count decreased.--[[User talk:NamekianFusion|Chapapapapa]] 19:16, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Yes. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:58, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
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==Dragon Ball Heroes==
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hey, it appears dragon ball heroes the series isn't going to be considered canon. With that being said should we still include information from the series such as in a list that states all the characters to achieve SSJ4 should we add Vegito since he just achieved it in the new series? Any one else got an opinion let me know. [[User:JBour53|Jon the Don -JBour53]] ([[User talk:JBour53|Talk to my consigliere]]) 10:10, November 7, 2018 (UTC)
   
Okay, Thanks for the info. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:0px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:0px; border:5px ridge white; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(purple), to(indigo)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, Aqua, Gold); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em yellow; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:#FE9A2E">[[File:BlueAndroid1.png|50px]][[User:Ultimate Cell|''<b><big><span style="color:white;font-family:Pristina; text-shadow: white 0 1px 1px; ">Nightmare comes ture</span></big></b>'']] [[User talk:Ultimate Cell|<sup>''<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0px 0px 4px ; font-family:Forte">Your time is up now</span>''</sup>]][[File:BlueAndroid2.png|50px]]</span>
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:Where are you getting this “canon” statement from? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:17, November 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Kid Yasha==
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::Well, its not confirmed canon or not yet so I am honestly just assuming. But either way I see we should just add it. I was just asking because a discussions user was asking why that wasn't updated yet but I wasn't 100% sure how we were handling that info but I understand now. [[User:JBour53|Jon the Don -JBour53]] ([[User talk:JBour53|Talk to my consigliere]]) 20:42, November 15, 2018 (UTC)
Hello sir I am new here and I was in chat like yesterday I believe and Kotsu was saying HMM after every sentence I made and he kicked me and did I get kicked becuase I did something wrong but I know the swearing rule and I didn't swear so I am curious what did I do to be kicked?[http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/7/76/Th_InuYasha.gif][http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kid_Yasha Kid Yasha][http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/4/47/Th_MiniInuyashaname.gif]<span style="background-color: rgb(246, 225, 173); ">?</span>
 
   
: <span style="background-color: rgb(246, 225, 173); ">Kotsu believed that you are a sockpuppet of Bardock-sama due to similar sentence patterns and how you idolized him in chat yesterday. He said he would try to check the IP address, though. [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 01:26, April 4, 2012 (UTC)</span>
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Read the Manual of Style. “Canon” is a fan term, not an official one. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:28, November 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
Kotsu has pretty good judgement. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:58, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
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== You Were Right All Along ==
   
:Honestly, I would've said KidTarble....perhaps sama created more than one account? Oh, and http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kid_Yasha/signature%3F?diff=807903&oldid=807827 is why I believe he's KidTarble, that's not your average typo... {{User:TienShinhan88/sig11}} 02:04, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
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10X, you were right about what to do a long time ago: Take a Break. And I'm gonna do that too when the English dub of DBS ends cause I made a commitment to finish it first. After all the commotion I went through up here made me realize that I'm tired of it and this wikia isn't going anywhere. So maybe the day I return to edit again after DBS ends, we could talk and see if I '''truly earned''' the right to be an admin then. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 23:41, November 29, 2018 (UTC)
   
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:01, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
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:Enjoy yourself friend. We’ll be here when you want to come back. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:57, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Hey Kamehame,==
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== Broly ==
I read your conversation about what happened on chat with Barku, and if we aren't allowed to talk about anything sexual, and have to keep it kid friendly, how come on the [[Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3]] page, there is a thing that Golden Great Ape Baby said, that is a pun off masturbation in the trivia? (Though, I wouldn't say it's a pun. That's the only way I could think of putting it.) I just wanted to know. I didn't think that was very kid friendly. I didn't know if you knew already or just thought it was fine. Thank you. {{User:FusionReborn99/sig3}} 00:12, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:The primary purpose of this site is to provide articles with information about official Dragon Ball material. On that page and several others there is mature content, which is usually tagged with a warning. It is something of a compromise, since we need to provide info, but also to be appropriate. Using the chat feature here to socially discuss sexual topic with children has no benefit, and can be illegal depending on who says what to whom. We have had complaints about people feeling sexually harassed, which is a horrible thing to be happening, and may cause us to totally discontinue chat if it does not end. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:19, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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I can't remember if this has been mentioned or not but we could use a definite answer. On the character pages is the Dragon Ball Super Broly part of the biography to go into the main biography after the Universe Survival section or is it to go in the Film Appearances section?
   
==Many apologies ==
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It's part of the main story and takes place after the Universe Survival Saga and before this Galactic Prisoner Saga so could be best suited in the main biography otherwise it'd jump from the Universe Survival Saga to the Galactic Prisoner Saga with nothing in-between.
Hello, 10X! I just thought I'd fess up to my mistake, before you come and talk to me any way. I did ban Sasori43, with just a photo from a user Evanf, and thatis all. A mistake purely acted on a hunch, and I apologize for loosing my head. It seems that lots of sockpuppets have been arising, and with his snark comments, quick understanding of everything on day one, and the same name "Blake" That many other new users have had recently I got carried away and banned him.
 
   
That being said, if you feel I'm incapable of handling this job after such a thing, I would certainly understand. I do feel rather immature coming to you like this after one mistake, but I guess I just feel this was a very bad call, not waiting for the IP check and everything. The new moderator I'd suggest (though my #1 suggestion would be erasing chat completely) Would most certainly be Callanball. Not becase we're good wikia friends, but he would do wonderful in such a position. {{User:TienShinhan88/sig11}} 04:15, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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But on the other hand it is a Film and Battle of Gods and Resurrection F were added to the Film section even though they were part of the main story.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 01:53, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I really see any problem with what you did CookiePirate. That screenshot is evidance, not just some 'hunch'. I would have banned him too. The evidance is too solid, in my opinion, do be discredited as a hunch. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig13}} 04:20, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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:It should be listed as a movie appearance for Broly. That’s all we know for sure so far. I would treat this like Emperor Chiaotzu or General Tao, just an alternate version in 1 film (so far). Splitting the info up into multiple articles will just make it harder to find for readers. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:09, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes, and this is only your very first one as a chat mod! You should apologize to the user if you feel now that they didn't deserve a ban, but you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. The important thing is to learn from any mistakes you feel you make, which apparently this may or may not have even been. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:47, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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:I don't mean for separate pages to be made. Just for example, what Piccolo does in the Dragon Ball Super Broly movie, do we put that under his Biography section after the Universe Survival Saga or do we put it in the Film Appearances section after A Heroes Legacy?[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 04:03, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Spammer==
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Anything in [[Dragon Ball Wiki:Manual of Style#Canonicity|Tier 1 and 2 Canon]] goes in the main bio, this includes Movies 18/19/20. Movie 19 and 20 are supposed to be merged with their anime counterparts under their movie names, but nobody has gotten around to finishing this. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 16:11, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
A [[User:Bardock-Sama|user]] is spamming all over this [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sasori43/Mods_need_to_step_their_game_up blog] and some of the GIFs that he has been spamming have profanity in them. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig13}} 04:45, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:53, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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:Wouldn't this result in a section that's gonna contain "In the movie...", "In the anime...", "In the manga..."?[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 08:22, December 1, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Stricter Rules ==
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Yeah for BoG and RF. There manga were really limited though so it ain't much of a problem. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:28, December 1, 2018 (UTC)
Could we add more stern rules like no making blogs about stuff that can be resolved on talk pages or chain blogs as they are distracting and get out of hand. The blogs about chat are getting out of hand. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 04:52, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:I think it is a good think that members of the community have a channel with which to express criticism of the site. For instance if a feature isn't working right, or if someone sees vandalism being committed by a user, blogs let them get the word out quickly. The only thing we want to avoid for blogs are the usual site rules (like no profanity or harassment) and detrimental posts, such as spam. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:56, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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:Plus we’re supposed to be using reference tags like every other Wiki and Wikipedia and actual encyclopedias, not writing out sources in text. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:48, December 2, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I think he is refering to people creating blogs to complain about being kickbanned which can taken care of either on the mod's talk page or even an admins talk page rather that creating a lot of drama on a blog. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig13}} 13:31, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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== Behavioral Issues ==
   
:I agree. Like ones that are like, "Help me make stuff" whether it be sigs or templates or whatever should be filtered through. I do it a bit but it always get denied and that crap just pisses me off so I gave up.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 13:38, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey there. I hate to cause you any trouble, but I thought I might alert you to the last few posts in [https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:624514 this thread]. Admittedly, the debate had been heated on and off for awhile, but, as of his recent handful of posts, [[User:FlatZone|FlatZone]] has devolved into just throwing around cursing and insults at everyone who disagrees with him or makes a point counter to his. It looks really unbecoming of your site when members behave like this in the public forums. Just thought you should be aware of it, since you seem to be the head honcho (or one of them) around here. Cheers! '''[[User:Jacob Kingston|Jacob Kingston]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Jacob Kingston|Talk]])</sup> 22:50, December 4, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Yes I mean people complaining about getting banned from chat or even certain chain blogs that create no purpose and have no reason to be made like about wiki "marriages" and stuff. Other wikis have stuf like that. Making blogs when cerain thing aren't workng right is fine with me though. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 17:01, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
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: My apologies, I needed to add this to my message: it would appear that he's been insulting other members as much as two days prior before I entered the thread—so you might have to scroll up from the bottom a bit to get the full scope. He's also been reprimanded on another wiki I'm a member of for the same behavior. Again, don't know if you guys take off-site behavior into consideration, but it was something I felt you should be aware of; it doesn't seem the other members in that forum were exactly happy with the way he was talking to them either. In the meantime, I have ceased debating him so that you and anyone else can read the discussion without having to muck through more of his insults. Thank you in advance! '''[[User:Jacob Kingston|Jacob Kingston]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Jacob Kingston|Talk]])</sup> 23:05, December 4, 2018 (UTC)
   
== User:Eheecnhtiai ==
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I already took care of the issue. I will not tolerate these types of attitudes and actions on this website, especially when the user is recidivist and was previously warned. Thanks for bringing the matter to us!
[[User:Eheecnhtiai]] has uploaded unapropriate pictures and posted them on a blog. {{User:Jeangabin666/sig}} 12:30, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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{{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 23:09, December 4, 2018 (UTC)
:[[User:NamekianFusion]] has removed the pics and blocked this user. {{User:Jeangabin666/sig}} 13:27, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
==SaiyanlogoThe2nd==
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:Great job YonedgeHp. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:06, December 5, 2018 (UTC)
Saiyanlogo is [[User:SaiyanlogoThe2nd|back]] following his block, and is posting inappropriate pictures again. [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 22:03, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Also, would it be too much to ask for Rollback rights so I can revert this vandalism instead of just reporting it? [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 22:06, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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== Tracks ==
   
I was about to come here and report him but Kingawesome beat me to it...but I'd like to ask for Rollback rights as well, for the same reason. [[File:First form frieza by emiyansaiyan-d330jqm.png|45px]]{{User:Freeza Burn/sig}} 22:09, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have one single page for the Bruce Faulconer tracks and there usages. There's a ton of pages for each individual song and most of these pages haven't been touched in a good while or are otherwise mostly empty. I thought if I could make the one page with all the songs, separated by album (of which there's six) with their usages listed for each song then it'd be a lot easier for people to find and also to keep on top of as there'd be just the one page to update. What do you think?[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 10:45, December 7, 2018 (UTC)
   
: Don't sell yourself short Freeza. I was about to undo his edit, only to see that you had it covered XD [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 22:12, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sure, why not. I recommend leaving the track name pages as redirects. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:37, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
He has been blocked.--[[User talk:NamekianFusion|Chapapapapa]] 22:12, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
: Thanks. Now to prepare for SaiyanlogoThe3rd... [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 22:13, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
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== Infobox ==
   
Hi guys. In case you didn't know, edits can be undone very easily with or without rollback. After a user makes an edit, go to the history and click "undo," then save. Rollback is about the same, maybe slightly faster. In any case, we like to see that users have many good article edits before giving rollback. Kingawesome77, you do not appear to edit articles as much, so I don't think it would be very beneficial at this time. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:48, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
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I changed up the infobox, for now have a look at Goku's because that's the one I mainly messed with.
   
: I actually had no idea that non-Rollbacks could use that... Man, maybe I really do need more article edits! Well, thanks for the insight XD [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 01:12, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
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I added a Debuts, Characteristics, Professional Status and Personal Status header. I changed Alternate names to Alias so it fits on one line. I added a Manga, Anime and Movie Debut line so it wasn't as scrunched up. I moved the Height and Weight up above the Dates of Birth. I removed the dates of revival because that made it look a mess. I moved the address down so it went under Professional Status. I added Relatives, Counterparts and Mentors under the Personal Status header so it was neater and so we don't have to see Future Goku (timeline counterpart), Master Roshi (mentor), Korin (mentor), Whis (mentor) etc.
   
:Thanks! [[File:First form frieza by emiyansaiyan-d330jqm.png|45px]]{{User:Freeza Burn/sig}} 01:24, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
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If you don't think it works I can put it back but tell me what you think. I haven't finished though because I want Debuts, Characteristics etc to be in the center, not on the far left like it is but I don't know how to do that. I also want to make the headers orange not a dull looking grey but I don't know how to do that either.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 18:01, December 9, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Spam==
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:Edit: Well many hours later, I finally got the text in the center and I changed the colour so it's mostly done but not fully. There's still issues minor issues but it is mostly what I had in mind.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 01:56, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
The [[User:Thinhill|newest incarnation]] of Thinhill is here and making a ton of totally pointless blogs. [[File:First form frieza by emiyansaiyan-d330jqm.png|45px]]{{User:Freeza Burn/sig}} 01:49, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:His <s>informative</s> blogs have been deleted. He's also with the rest of the Thinhills.--[[User talk:NamekianFusion|Chapapapapa]] 02:11, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
And [[User:Thinhill96|again]]. [[File:First form frieza by emiyansaiyan-d330jqm.png|45px]]{{User:Freeza Burn/sig}} 01:53, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:24, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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:Looks good. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:42, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Okay.==
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== Broly: BR ==
Thank you for telling me. I forgot about the mature content thing. I was just making sure that didn't somehow slip on there.
 
   
{{User:FusionReborn99/sig3}} 03:28, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
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X10, can you restore the page so I can retrieve all the info for the main Broly page. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 03:50, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Over 4,000!!! ==
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:You can click restore/view without saving. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:58, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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::Where cause I don't know how? [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:29, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
We've reached 4,000 pages on the wiki!! {{User:Jeangabin666/sig}} 12:04, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
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:Navigate to the deleted article in desktop mode, and click restore/view. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Awesome! I added it to the news. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:25, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
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If you deleted the Broly BR shouldn't you delete the Paragus BR one? {{unsigned|Hulk10}}
   
== Sayainlogothe3rd ==
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:Yes. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
yeaah he came and hes back posting inapproiate pictures [[User:Vegtassj5|<font color=blue style=background:red>We got to work for what we want or well never get it</font>]] 12:32, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks, the pictures were deleted and he has been blocked. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:26, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
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Did you back up or copy the Broly:BR page information?[[User:ScipioLecter|ScipioLecter]] ([[User talk:ScipioLecter|talk]]) 21:21, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
== My bad ==
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:Hello and welcome to Wikia. Every edit is always backed up and saved, including deleted articles. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
Sorry bro. But that is the one thing that gets to me. How about I go back and rephrse my comment. Would that be alright? Cheers{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}}
 
   
:Probably just no comment would be better since there's nothing wrong with the blogs. A blog about thinking GT is bad is a 100% acceptable topic for our site. Keep in mind that even though veteran users like you have seen that type of blog many times over, new users will continue to meet here and discuss things like that for years to come. We welcome old conversations put out there by new users. If you find old topics boring, you certainly don't have to read them though. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 06:52, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, but the Broly article looks absolutely disgusting and is to difficult to navigate, not to mention most users are complaining about the revamp in the article. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but why did we do this? Can we entertain other solutions? This is just out of hand at this point. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 05:56, December 11, 2018 (UTC)
   
This isn't an opinion. This is just a 100% negative approach to GT. Sorry, but I already left him another message before I read this. Did you read it. was it a good response?{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}}
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:See my response on the Broly talk page. Making 2 articles makes the info too hard to find for casual readers. The info is meant to be as easy to find as possible, regardless of editor preference. This is an encyclopedia first and foremost. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Yes, it is an opinion. People don't have to like anything just because that's the way you feel, and those people are just as welcome here as the people who enjoy the series to a great extent. Having a negative opinion of GT or any other aspect of Dragon Ball does not make your thoughts not count, let alone "pathetic and worthless." Your message did not seem like good response, as it seems to be the opposite of open-minded. If you tell someone to stop discussing their thoughts, something is going wrong. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 08:59, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
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"The info is meant to be as easy as possible to find." Having a single article for two completely separate characters does not make it easier. Everything about them, from personality to appearance, differ greatly. Having a single article makes it incredibly confusing for viewers in general to find the information. If a casual reader were to read the article, theycd assume the two characters, who have been confirmed to he two completely different characters, are the same person. I understand you think it should be easier, but this is not the way ro go about it. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:17, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
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:Yeah, and besides, by that same logic, we probably should merge all the Future Articles with the main articles (in other words, merge Future Trunks with Kid Trunks), merge all the Zamasu articles, heck, might as well also merge all the Xeno articles with the main ones, regardless of how different those characters are. All for the sake of "casual readers" (which BTW, if I were a casual reader, I actually WOULD be confused by that format you're proposing because I would be thinking, if they were the same character, they're acting schizophrenic due to how differently they act). [[User:Weedle McHairybug|Weedle McHairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle McHairybug|talk]]) 13:57, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Hi thx ==
 
   
Hi thx for welcoming me here :)
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:All Xeno characters should be merged then too, and future as stated above. The Broly page is an eye sore and once you read half of it you find out the entire top half of the page doesn't apply to the bottom. And the forms part is even more confusing, saying forms appear in certain movies without saying they only apply to the broly shown in X, which once added will only make the page even more confusing to navigate. Both being on the same page literally only caused a huge issue in accuracy. It fixed nothing. [[User:J spencer93|J spencer93]] ([[User talk:J spencer93|talk]]) 03:52, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
--[[User:HOTSEXYDBZLOVERGIRL|HOTSEXYDBZLOVERGIRL]] 07:08, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
==Recquest==
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I just don't see why you made the decision without even bringing it up to anyone. There's nothing in the Manual of Style on it. You literally just did this because you wanted to and didn't bother weighing the pros and cons. If any of us had done that, we'd have gotten a warning or have been blocked. This needs to be addressed with the admins and a consensus must be agreed upon. I'd have restored the pages and brought it up in the Manual of Style by now if I knew how to. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:49, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
Hi 10X, I don't know if this being too much or not for me but I think the Chat Mod privileges should be given to me. Because, I think there are many users who use unfavorable and indecent languages and words that should not be used on chat plus I am from different timezone ( I am from India ) and it's obvious that most of the chat mods don't come on chat while I stay there. Although, BardockGoku is already a chat mod from Asian and Oceanian timezone and I think Callanball would be a good chat mod from the same time zone but I think it would be better if you and other admins choose a chat mod from Indian and Asian time zone. I think, there are sufficient chat mods from North and South American timezone and this wikia needs more chat mods from Asian, European and Oceanian timezones. Besides, BardockGoku can't handle the chat only by his own and of course he needs more helpers. If admins recruit more chat mods from these timezones then the chat will be more clean and disciplined and I can assure you that users can enjoy chat more freely than earlier and they can easily report other violent users and vandals to the new chat mods. Therefore, I hope you will consider this matter as very urgent and with necessity. Thank you. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:250px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:210px; border:5px ridge #609B51; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(Brown), to(Black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, Aqua, Gold); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em yellow; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:#FE9A2E">[[File:Ss4gokukamehameha.jpg|52px]][[User:Ultimate Cell|''<b><big><span style="color:white;font-family:Papyrus; text-shadow: white 0 1px 1px; ">Ultimate Cell</span></big></b>'']] [[User talk:Ultimate Cell|<sup>''<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0px 0px 2px ; font-family:verdana">Leave me a massage</span>''</sup>]][[File:ApeGoku.jpg|52px]]</span>
 
   
:Hi there, and thanks for the information. As far as chat mods, we usually go with users who are recommended by others. Try and get other users to recommend you here on my talk page, since this would show respect from the community toward you. Many users recommend themself, but unfortunately we need to here about you from others. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:58, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
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:With as little irony as possible talking to you guys, I’m obviously not a fan on redundancy on the site. Please don’t ask the same questions both here and on the Broly talk page. I won’t copy-paste the same responses twice. Like having two articles for the same character for every new movie appearance, it just doesn’t make sense. I already answered over there. To ExyleCage who asked something new here (which again would be more appropriate posed to the whole community on the Broly talk page), movie appearances are absolutely covered in the Manual of Style. Read it again and check out the section formatting to see how movies are included in articles. And again, please stick to the Broly talk page so all the discussion is in one place. Thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:27, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Thanks for considering the matter. I'll try to convince other people as far as I can on this.
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I apologize. I'll take this to Broly Talk Page, then. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 06:01, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
:<span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:250px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:210px; border:5px ridge #609B51; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(Brown), to(Black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, Aqua, Gold); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em yellow; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:#FE9A2E">[[File:Ss4gokukamehameha.jpg|52px]][[User:Ultimate Cell|''<b><big><span style="color:white;font-family:Papyrus; text-shadow: white 0 1px 1px; ">Ultimate Cell</span></big></b>'']] [[User talk:Ultimate Cell|<sup>''<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0px 0px 2px ; font-family:verdana">Leave me a massage</span>''</sup>]][[File:ApeGoku.jpg|52px]]</span>
 
   
== User Harassment ==
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== Series Switch ==
   
The user [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Richie_Cordelia Richie Cordelia]<span style="font-style: normal; "> has</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> been</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> being</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> harassed</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> by</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> a</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> user</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> by</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> the</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> name</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> of</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Zaykong Zaykong].</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Zaykong</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> has</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> been</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> calling</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Richie</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> "Amber</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Cole",</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> whom</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> she</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> is</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> not.</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Amber</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Cole</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> is</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> a</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> girl</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> that</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> was</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> caught</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> doing</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> something</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> sexual</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> and</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> was</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> turned</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> into</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> a</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> viral,</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> cyber-bully</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> hotspot.</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> It</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> is</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> my</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> thought</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> that</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Zaykong</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> is</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> doing</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> this</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> to</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> cause</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> harm</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> to</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> said</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> user.</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Richie</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> has</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> asked</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> him</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> to</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> stop</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> before,</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> yet</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> he</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> continues.</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog_comment:Drayden_Stone/Drayden:_What_inspired_your_username%3F/@comment-Richie_Cordelia-20120407140220/@comment-Zaykong-20120407174756 Here's a sample of his name-calling].</span><span style="font-style: normal; ">I'm</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> aware</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> it</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> isn't</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> too</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> terrible,</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> but</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> Richie</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> seems</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> to</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> find</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> it</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> offensive.</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> If</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> you</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> could</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> please</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> handle</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> it</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> in</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> whatever</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> way</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> you</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> find</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> most</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> suiting,</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> that</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> would</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> be</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> appreciated.</span><span style="font-style: normal; "> [[User:SuperKamiGuru|SuperKamiGuru]] 18:54, April 7, 2012 (UTC)</span>
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Doesn't the anime of Super Dragon Ball Heroes still count as a series. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 20:58, December 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Thanks, I'll have a word with that user. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:07, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
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:No, it’s a non-televised mini-series. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:23, December 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== WOW! ==
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== Abuse filter question ==
Okay firstly I would like to know who complained.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}}
 
   
:It was via email so I assume they want to be anonymous. When I checked out the blog though it did seem like you posted the same thing many times, which is spamming. It also seems like kind of a rude thing to post in any case, so it's best to just avoid insulting comments and posts. Thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:36, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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Hi there! On recommendation of Jbour53 and Nef I figured I would message you. In the Jiren vs Broly topic I seem to be locked, but I am not sure why. The only abuse filters in the log are for editing, which I wasn't aware was against the rules. If that is the case, could you let me know? I might have missed it. Otherwise, I'm not sure where the offense was, and certainly it is not my intent to cause any grief! Thank you for your time. {{unsigned|Super Saiyan Amari}}
   
I am finding that really hard to believe. I remember asking for your email like three times and you turned me down and I actually considered you as a good friend on the wiki. Posting something about 4-5 times isn't spamming. I never double posted it and only did it for certain blogs. It is also called a joke, I get along very well with 99% per cent of the users here and they would all take it as a funny joke and we would both get a good laugh out of it. Really you need to start looking alot more into how social this wiki is now, alright? Calling someone lets say a 'spastic' can be taken in two different ways as such. An insult, or a joke where the other person will throw back an insult, you need to look deeper into what you are doing.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 02:22, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:Thanks for reaching out. I have contacted VSTF and Helper [[user:Kopcap94]] to look into this. You can monitor our discussion on their talk page. Please feel free to add any info that might be helpful. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:04, December 21, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I haven't given my email out to a single person on the site, it is a matter of privacy. If you want to email me, simply use the "E-mail this user" button. Many users reach me regularly using it. Insults are not allowed on this wiki in any form, including your example of calling someone spastic. Even though you think it is funny to insult people you know, they may not. Even if you hurt someone's feelings with insults, they may say they think it's funny to try and fit in; this is very common behavior among younger people when surrounded by peers. Additionally, when new users see a user insulting another user, especially someone in a leadership position such as you, they think it is okay, and they don't know it's a joke since they are new. This leads to more insults and a worse social environment for all users.
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== Check this and the post i made above it out please ==
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[//dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Super_Saiyan_4#here_is_proof https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Super_Saiyan_4#here_is_proof]. [[User:FlatZone|FlatZone]] ([[User talk:FlatZone|talk]]) 00:00, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
   
:It's true that I have interacted with you here for a longer time than most users, but you still have to follow every rule that a new user would have to follow. Even the admins are all bound to following the rules at all times; there is no lenience for being here longer. The thing to take from this is that you need to go back to when you followed all the rules to the letter, meaning no swearing, no sexual topics, no insults, and no spamming. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:00, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:Okay, I’ll check it out. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 08:49, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
   
::Haha, Barku, that's the responsibility of being a chat mod, 10X watches what we're doing. XD {{User:KillerBaka9/sig9}} 03:03, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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== Whats the deal ==
   
You really don't need to be so hostile. All Tenny did was point out what you posted; there's no need to jump down his throat about it. <small>—''This comment was made by the most awesome user on this wiki, '''[[User:November Blue|November Blue]]''' ([[User talk:November Blue|the most awesome user's talk page]] • [[Special:Contributions/November Blue|the most awesome user's contributions]])''.</small> 03:08, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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So on the SS4 page, he has the proof and evidence, you want Nef to look at something that comes from an old Video Game that has wonky multipliers and powerlevels on it. Nef doesn't care apparently. So what gives with that? I think its all ridiculous to begin with considering the cross referenced information on SSGSS and LSS page, so why is it an issue on the SS4 page?? [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 20:34, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
   
:I'm just saying bro. That thing is what we call a friendly insult. It is an attack that is alwasy taken light heatedly since I know that user well. You didn't see me saying that to any new users did I? BTW if you would look there was other people saying pretty much what the picture I was posting said. I also see no need to delete my comments. Now may I ask that you tell me which user got offended by this so that I may apologies to them for offending them. This would help otherwise I will just go around to everybody asking them who did it and chucking them an apology why I am at it. I don't want to break the rules. I would actually like you to maybe reconsider them. Also I would also like to point oput that I have nothing against you and all. But it's just that unlike most people instead of saying, "Okay" and taking nothing on board I would prefer to discuss this matter. I will also say what is on my mind, if I don't like a decision I will speak out about it.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 05:13, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:I want Nef to do what? Can you please be specific, it sounds like you're halfway through a conversation with someone else. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:36, February 12, 2019 (UTC)
   
I think you misinterpreted what I said. Regardless of whether or not you think it's friendly, and apparently you do, others do not. A new user does know that you are just saying a "friendly" insult to someone else. I am not saying that you are insulting new users, I am saying that new users read your insults about old users and then see that as the right thing to do, when it is in fact against the rules. Insulting others is not allowed in any way by any user. No one is allowed to insult anyone else, whether they think it is friendly, or a joke, or anything. If you see other users insulting each other, that does not make it okay for anyone else to do so. Just the opposite, the offenders should be spoken to, or reported to an admin if you feel uncomfortable doing so. In terms of changing the rules, if you think it would be a good idea to allow users to freely insult each other you are free to suggest it on the rules talk page. The user that complained about you did so via email, so I assume they want it to be anonymous. If they want to tell you personally they can choose to do that, but I won't make them. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:42, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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::I suggested that since Nef was the one who added "According to [[Dragon Ball Z: Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha - Ora to Omee to Scouter]] Super Saiyan 4's power is ten times that of a Super Saiyan" we wait for him to weigh in, because no one else in the discussion has any proof to prove or disprove it, I already cleared up the whole Nef doesn't care apparently. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|00:55,2/13/2019}}
   
:Okay then. But is it really that bad? I think all of the new users will first need to read the rules. But when they see that, all they need to do is insult another user once and then get told what is right and what is wrong. You are looking at this way too firmly from just one angle. This angle being that this is a DB sight and nothing else. You need to realise how social this wiki has become. Friendships are being established very regularly and everybody has their own thing. When I go to school, I can go to some kid and say, "Hey loser, I had sex with your mum last night" This could result in either them getting upset, a teacher getting me in trouble or them standing up for themsleves and trying to hit me. But under most circumstances this wouldn't happen because I would only ever say this to my mates which results in laughs all round and then him throwing an insult right back at me, maybe even possibly just end up everyone ripping into each other but whatever happens then, it is just fun for everyone and we all get a good laugh and some happiness out of it. Our bonding will also grow in a situation like that too at times. I know that isn't accepted here but that is just an example that is highlighting what is happening with me using my, "You don't say?" meme. I am not saying that it is accepted for insults to be thrown around at everyone. But light hearted insults should be allowed here since they just give most people some laughs. I actually might bring that up on the rules talk, so cheers for that one but I would need to think of the right wording since this is a hard one to get the correct wording on. I would also really like to know who has been reporting me. Infact today I have seen heaps of "unacceptable behaviour" on the wiki. I feel like someone is in a way 'spying' on me as a wiki mate brought up today in chat. I don't know who it is, it may even be you? I am not sure though but it is pretty annoying.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 10:09, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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Seems like content we should list either in video games or in power. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:48, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
   
Your example is something that is not allowed, and I see that you mentioned you know it isn't so I'm glad we're clear on that. The point is you need to follow the rules, as do all other users. If the rule is ever changed then that is a different issue. Until then, no insults or profanity are allowed. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:33, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:It is listed in power but FlatZone was and still is saying that it is wrong and removed it and wants it removed all because of his cross-sourced math. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|15:07,2/16/2019}}
   
:Haha, bro I was actually planning on throwing some ideas onto the rules talk page. but I don't have time now haha. Mayvbe when I get back from holidays I can? See ya man{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 23:21, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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== Dr. Brief ==
   
Sure thing. We try and have the community pick its own rules for how people should conduct themselves, that way people like me are just enforcing and not mandating. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:02, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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Hello Kamehameha, I have a question: in the article about [[Dr. Brief]], it says that he has been shown to “be able to design, invent, fix, alter or manipulate, and engineer almost anything”, and I’ve been wondering: does the alter part mean he can modify anything according to what he desires and the manipulate part mean he can hack any device, computer, machine, etc.? Because if so, shouldn’t the article instead say that he has been “shown to be able to design, invent, fix, modify or hack, and engineer almost anything”? I mean, the alter and manipulate part could both be mistaken for something more supernatural, you know. --[[User:YarinzianDragonKing|Chris Urena]] ([[User talk:YarinzianDragonKing|talk]]) 17:22, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
   
==Profanity==
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:Sure, clarification in wording is welcome here. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:40, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
A [[User:Legato Bluesummers|user]] used profane language on this [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:KillerBaka9/Baka:_What_Yu-Gi-Oh_monster_you_remind_me_of blog]. He also threatened another user on that blog, also he spammed and insulted other users on chat.He also vandalized your and NamekianFusion's talk pages in attempt to hide his actions from being reported. Also he vandalized Yamcha, Tien Shinhan, and Chiatzu pages by renaming them to something obscene {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig13}} 03:55, April 8, 2012 (UTC
 
   
:Thanks, it should be all set now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:34, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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==Site Navigation issue==
   
:Thanks for taking care of this; I was getting tired of him and undoing his edits, he vandalized more pages and even my user page. I was almost about to report it to VSTF until I clicked on his contributations page and seen that you already took care of it. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig13}} 04:37, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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There is a problem with the site navigation tab for the Universe Survival Saga. The number "99" is replaced with the title of the episode. It's not that big of a deal but I just wanted to inform you of the issue, since you might be able to fix it.
   
== 10X to the Rescue ==
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[[User:Lpsmart0|Lpsmart0]] ([[User talk:Lpsmart0|talk]]) 21:43, February 24, 2019 (UTC) 
Thanks for banning Legato's troll. It was the same thing as usual. {{User:SaiyanAwesomeness/sig}} 04:29, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:I fixed it. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 22:08, February 24, 2019 (UTC)
   
:That's what I'm here for! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:34, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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::Thanks both of you, for highlighting and swiftly resolving this issue. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:42, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
   
==XXIDubstepXx==
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==Written of Dragon Ball GT==
hi 10X would plez romote Gohan ibbe too be a cha mod plez {{unsigned|XXIDubstepXx}}
 
   
:<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Hello I’m lwalt26, I highly recommend Gohan ibbe to be a chat moderator, ever since I joined the dragon ball wiki he has taught me the rules of this wiki and has reminded me them every time I slip up a little. Ever Since I joined Gohan ibbe has been my role model. So I highly recommend him chat moderator [[User:Lwalt26|Lwalt26]] 09:25, April 8, 2012 (UTC)</p>
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So 10X the question, the anime Dragon Ball GT was written by Akira Toriyama or by the person of Toei Animation? [[User:BabyKratosxZeus|BabyKratosxZeus]] ([[User talk:BabyKratosxZeus|talk]]) 20:45, March 13, 2019 (UTC)
   
sorry i mean I recommend Gohan Ibbe to be a chat mod. {{unsigned|XXIDubstepXx}}
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:Like all anime shows, a team created it. No one person can do it all. Toriyama was involved as a key contributor. For more details, click here: [//dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT#Toriyama.27s_involvement_and_canon_debate https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT#Toriyama.27s_involvement_and_canon_debate] {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Hey, I would also like to recommend him for mod rights. he is in the perfect time zone, he does a crapload of work on this wiki on articles too. If he doesn't get mod rights then I will officially change Chat Mod into Popular User category. His behaviour is also perfect with very good grammar in chat. Gohan Ibbe for chat mod is what I say and yes for once I think we need another one.{{User:BardockGoku/sig3}} 10:11, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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==Rollback==
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I was thinking if I could get rollback rights ? --[[User:Mgdodl|Mgdodl]] ([[User talk:Mgdodl|talk]]) 23:46, March 26, 2019 (UTC)
   
Thanks everyone, I will keep this in mind. Also, don't forget to sign your posts. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:36, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:Why would you like Rollback rights? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:32, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
   
Yeah, Gohan ibbe seems like a cool mature guy. I don't know him very well mainly because of difference in timeline. I think he would be a much better choice for a chat mod and seems to fit our needs rather than having a popularity contest to choose someone within 3 timezones if not the same timezone as 6 of the 7 other chat mods. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig13}} 22:40, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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To combat vandalism better. --[[User:Mgdodl|Mgdodl]] ([[User talk:Mgdodl|talk]]) 05:12, April 1, 2019 (UTC)
   
I would also like to recommend Gohan ibbe for all the reasons above. He is a kind user and will help out greatly since he will most likely be on when the other moderators are off because of the different time zones. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:500px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:220px; border:5px ridge Lavender; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(#0C7B31), to(#81F79F)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, Black 25%, Black 75%); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em Black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em Blue; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em Black; background-color:Lavender">[[User:GohanFan7|<span style="color:Aqua">'''''GohanFan7'''''</span>]] [[User talk:GohanFan7|<sup><span style="color:Aqua"> '''''T a l k'''''</span></sup>]]</span>[[File:The flame alchemist by let c-d4azdb3.png|30px]] 22:56, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sounds good. I’ll add you as Rollback. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:47, April 5, 2019 (UTC)
   
== troll ==
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== Character name ==
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:King_of_all_Trolls spammed chat and is gonna frame other users for it
 
*King of all Trolls HGN
 
*10:21 King of all Trolls B
 
*10:21 King of all Trolls BG
 
*10:21 King of all Trolls GB
 
*10:21 King of all Trolls GF
 
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*10:21 King of all Trolls TG
 
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*10:21 King of all Trolls HY
 
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*10:21 King of all Trolls J
 
   
{{unsigned|Vegtassj5}}
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Yo, should we use the old dub name or current dub name for things? For example [[Daikaioh]] was originally referred to as such, but is nowadays called Grand Supreme Kai. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 21:34, April 19, 2019 (UTC)
   
==Zaykong==
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:Can you clarify what you mean by “old” and “new”? Which dubs? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:52, April 20, 2019 (UTC)
But did u know that they was calling me gaykong,donkey kong,king kong,I am a ass,and I'm the badazz in da house.That's all I wanted to let you know because I'm not the only one saying negative stuff on blogs.For example, you can go on my page and go to my blog called "Prankster pic" and see the replies in other words comments that they had made. {{unsigned|Zaykong}}
 
   
:Okay I will check out that blog. However, you are still harassing another user and that you being made fun of doesn't make that okay. It would just make both you and the people making fun of you in the blog wrong. In that case, everyone gets in trouble. In the future, make sure you're never on the bullying side of it, and just grab an admin like me if someone is saying insults. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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Original Funimation (Daikaioh) and DB Kai (Grand Supreme Kai). --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:58, April 20, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Hey ==
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:In that example, I’d think the English is easier for readers to understand. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:17, May 1, 2019 (UTC)
   
It occured to me after I saw that Zaykong left you a message on your page, I should tell you the truth, because none of what he said is true. No one calls him names or whatever he's talking about. Instead, he refers to me as 'Ashley Cole" or something, a porn star.
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Alright, thanks. So I guess if we have two official english names, but one is properly in english, that one is preferable. Perhaps we should note this in the MoS' naming scheme? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 22:59, May 1, 2019 (UTC)
   
So...can you please set him straight?
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:Ok. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:48, May 2, 2019 (UTC)
   
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh80/FRUITZNAKE/Meowth.gif [[User:Richie Cordelia]] 16:08, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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==MaxxyFaxxy==
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Can you block this user, [[User:MaxxyFaxxy|MaxxyFaxxy]], for messing around with the Jiren page and even moved Jiren’s name to Grosstooth. Can you lock it to where no one can move or rename the page and can you delete this page [[Grosstooth]]. Thanks. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 18:09, May 16, 2019 (UTC))
   
:Done. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:59, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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:Thank you for reporting this. Bullza took care of it. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:42, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Umm... ==
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No problem. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 05:56, May 23, 2019 (UTC))
Hey, 10X. [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ALegetoBlusumers I think you may have blocked the wrong guy]. I know that you blocked this troll, but as far as I saw, Legato didn't do anything. {{User:KillerBaka9/sig9}} 16:58, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Legato was blocked the day before the troll appeared again due to an argument, check out [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Legato_Bluesummers deleted users contributions] from 4/6 and 4/7, he also uploaded several images containing profanity to "help" his argument. The troll, who is probably Legato due to the timing, appeared the next day and was blocked separately. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:28, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
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== Fandom Wiki Manager ==
   
::I see. {{User:KillerBaka9/sig9}} 00:06, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey 10X Kamehameha! My name is HighJewElfKing, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for Dragon Ball Wiki. My job is to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff. If you ever got a question or issue relating to the wiki, editing, etc., please contact me on my message wall and I'll do my best to help you out! :) [[User:HighJewElfKing|HighJewElfKing]] ([[User talk:HighJewElfKing|talk]]) 18:23, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Thihnill is back ==
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It turns out this wiki falls under the anime vertical not movies and TV, so you guys will have a wiki manager however it won't be me as I work in the movies and TV vertical. Thanks for the understanding :) [[User:HighJewElfKing|HighJewElfKing]] ([[User talk:HighJewElfKing|talk]]) 22:27, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
He keeps making spam blogs [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Thinhill96 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Thinhill96 [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 01:58, April 9, 2012 (UTC)]
 
   
Talk about good timing. Thanks. The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name
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:Okay, thanks for checking in. We’re looking forward to having a liaison. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:44, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Thanks, taken care of. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:26, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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==Conrads99==
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10X Kamehameha wave I need your help, I was a Admin on the Samurai Eight wikia page until Meshack (Same one who is banned on this wikia) removed my rights and a consensus he did not agree on, going so far as deleting the Poll and all the votes of how the community was in favour for the consenus.
   
== Editing issue ==
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Which pronunciation should we be using on the Wikia?
Both you and NamekianFusion's pages are stuck in source mode for some reason. Says I can't edit the above section visually and that it is "restricted" because of a "complex" code and that visual editing but other talk pages are fine It is fine here but on the above section about Thinhill96 I can't sign my post because of it. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 02:04, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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1. Japanese pronunciation as "Manga", "Anime", "Mangaka" and so on... (Had 10 votes)
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2. English pronunciation as "Comic", "Animation", "Comic Artist" and so on... (Had 2 votes)
   
:Weird. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:28, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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I screen shot the poll last night knowing he would do something like this.
   
:I'm hoping it is just a temporary glitch, if it doesn't resolve itself I'll alert Wikia staff about it[[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 02:39, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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But what i am asking is for the complete support on your behalf and others so that you can help me demote him from the wikia, as he is currently The Founder and Bureaucrat and is blocking all my advances.
   
:It's still happening. I'm going to let Wikia staff know about it. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 05:28, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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Consensus link (https://samurai8.fandom.com/f/p/3100000000000000069)
   
::Usually, when a page does that, it means there's a complex coding of some sort on the page that has not been made into a template. Maybe someone's signature? {{User:KillerBaka9/sig9}} 21:45, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Regards Conrads99 [[User:Conrads99|Conrads99]] ([[User talk:Conrads99|talk]])
   
==SuperSaiyanDate==
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:Hello Conrads99. I don’t have an opinion on how a different Wikia should be run, but consensus is a good way to decide things. Note that a poll, otherwise known as a vote, is not the same as a consensus. Whereas in a consensus everyone reaches an agreement after discussing the issue, a vote just says where more people stand before really considering each other’s points.
why on tis page>>> http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Kamehameha Information is not edited? {{unsigned|SuperSaiyanDate}}
 
   
:What? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 18:45, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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:Meshack has been blocked here 8 times with increasing durations, and currently has an infinite block here. If you bring your case to Fandom staff, the only people who can probably help you, they can read the block logs here on DB Wiki to see descriptions of why we were forced to repeatedly block Meshack. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:14, May 27, 2019 (UTC)
   
It's the same issue I reported above. I asked some users in chat about it and CookiePirate told me that if source mde gets too complex you can't edit visually. I reported it to Wikia. As for whoever posted this please sign your posts so we know who you are so I can tell you directly. Also be more specific when you post something on an admin's talk page. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 19:03, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Sounds like a problem easily solved by just editing in source mode then. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:49, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for getting back to me, I'm still waiting on the Wiki stuff to get involved.
   
== gt canon debate ==
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But yeah from what i've read on here for what he has done he is doing the exact same thing on Samurai 8 the only problem he is a Bureaucrat and Founder and is using that to do the community over and even when we call him out and show that he was wrong he did a few edits to make it seem like he was always following the consensus and is trying to bluff us.
Please don't just undo my edit at least change it in your own way to make it unbiased since in this current form it is definitely not , you can't say "'most often' claiming incorrectly that the series was not directly written by Toriyama" in attempt to discredit the other sides intelligence with assumptions its just immature, this is a wiki not a blog or gt fansite {{unsigned|NexCarnifex}}
 
   
:I'm not calling anyone unintelligent, I'm restoring the true fact that Toriyama wrote GT, which is mature, doesn't relate to blogs, and does not have to do with anyone being a fan or not. Please double check your facts and construct a logic-based argument before coming to editors about their edits. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:39, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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I've taken screen shots form stuff he has done and verbal stuff he has wrote to us claiming that because he is the founder he has final say. which is just ludicrous as all wikis are a community say especially when the wikia is so small and only consist of a hand fall of editors.
   
I'm not saying anything isn't true, just saying its immature to say people who consider GT non canon are "most often" wrong regarding their factual information, everyone I know who considers GT non canon is well aware of its development history I'd like to see your sourced statistics indicating these people are "most often" wrong. The only thing I changed in my edit in that statement was "most often" to "sometimes", maybe you would have known that if you actually read it. [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 06:27, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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If your interested in reading what his comes backs were ill leave a link here (https://samurai8.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Munchvtec/Demotion_of_Meshack_from_all_sysop_rights)
   
:Everyone who says GT was not written by Toriyama is wrong about that 100% of the time, this is a fact. He is credited as the author, as referenced in the article. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:31, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Regards Conrads99 [[User:Conrads99|Conrads99]] ([[User talk:Conrads99|talk]])
   
:I can't find anything saying Toriyama wrote the script for GT, but that is besides the fact, he's also written the stories for alternate post-Z plotlines such as DBO. You can't assume "most" people who consider GT non-canon are misinformed, it really comes down to whether you consider the anime canon or not, as GT coincides with the anime and movie canon unlike the manga. The paragraph is bias in that it tries to persuade to one side of the argument instead of presenting both sides equally which is what my edit did. Do you disagree with this or not I want a straight answer and explanation. [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 02:17, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
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== Cooler stuff ==
   
:"Everyone who says GT was not written by Toriyama is wrong about that 100% of the time, this is a fact" this is simply not true, no sources indicate this, none, all official sources such as the diazenshuu indicate he drew the art he never wrote the story, please clarify. [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 22:44, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
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Just as proof in case it's needed :)
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[[User:Jim Logan|Pour me a glass, bub.]] ([[User talk:Jim Logan|talk]]) 15:46, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
   
The official source is in the article... {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:39, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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CoolerFutureWarriorOffer2.jpg
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CoolerFutureWarriorOffer.jpg
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</gallery>
   
== Stop edit waring ==
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:Oh okay, he says he respects Goku. That’s also MetaCooler, not Cooler. In any case you don’t need to convince me, since anyone can edit the articles. Posting images like that with the statement can serve as a reference for readers. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 11:46, July 25, 2019 (UTC)
you're freaking out dude, there was no war until you just now unreasonably undid the revisions, I know you want it to be your way so badly but I used the talk with other people and they helped me fix it to make it less biased don't come in reverting everything you aren't the final say.
 
   
Don't just undo me and smartymax's edit look it over and make changes you think are nessesary and then we'll discuss those or at least keep it as it is and we can discuss here about changing it back, because currently we have something established and it is defnitely better written and less biased than before. [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 06:21, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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== +fix admin headline on main page. ==
   
:You should reread the rules, I never edit warred, and in fact I only edited the page twice concerning your change. You were the one edit warring, and you insisted on doing it even after warnings. Additionally, you never even tried to use the article talk page like I suggested. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:36, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey mate, can you fix the admin header to appear on the right side of the main page on desktop mode; it cuts halfway, with the title area appearing on the bottom and splits the remainder on the other column. I didn't want to reformat the whole template, so if you can fix that would be great. I will be contributing further to the articles in the near future. Thank you for maintaining such an amazing look for our main page. I will be checking systematically to assist any way I can. Your fellow admin comrade, PrinceZarbon. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 20:13, August 9, 2019 (UTC)
   
I did use the talk pages. [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 02:18, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
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:I’m glad to hear you’re becoming more active again!
   
:I am a user, not an article. Additionally, if you continue to edit war before a consensus is reached on talk, it defeats the purpose. Please read the rules for more information. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:46, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
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:I’m not sure how it got cropped like that or how to fix it. The template itself and its use appear to be in working order. However somehow it’s not displaying correctly. Seems like Wikia may be focused on the mobile mode. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:07, August 10, 2019 (UTC)
   
How am I supposed to reach a consensus with you if you aren't replying to my messages and you won't listen to reason or address my points?! Please try it at least, I'm waiting. [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 20:57, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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== App ==
   
:Here are some excerpts from your and my talk pages, "Use the '''article talk page''' to discuss the issue," "discuss things on '''article talk pages'''," "use the '''article talk page'''," "'''I am a user, not an article'''." Is there a pattern you see here yet? The pattern is that I am telling you what you should be doing instead of edit warring, and you have not done it once even after being told about it 4 times. User talk pages are nice, but you have to use the article talk page to seek consensus about an article. I have also told you to read the rules about edit warring, which state that you should, "have a respectful discussion on the '''article's talk page'''." Additionally, if you continue to edit war before a consensus is reached, then you are still breaking the rules while you are doing so. Where there is a conflict with an edit, the steps are extremely simple. Step 1: don't edit war. Step 2: use the article's talk page. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:25, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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Do you know anything about [[User talk:Neffyarious#Discussion 2|this]]? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:56, August 11, 2019 (UTC)
   
::Hey NexCarnifex maybe it would be easier if you would post a discussion on the [[Talk:Dragon Ball GT]] to discuss this matter instead of blatantly ignoring the rules by continuing to edit war AND showing a high amount of immaturity by harassing an admin instead of following proper procedure. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig15}} 21:40, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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:Yes, Fandom created a DB Wiki app a while back to host the articles here in another format. Whatever edits happen here are mirrored there. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:17, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
   
::Sorry I didn't know i was supposed to use the article talk page I posted a response there, but its really difficult when someone is being flat out stubborn and ignorant, especially when they are supposed to be authority. [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 22:46, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
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Do you know anything about the apparent edit button issue? If not I can look into it. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 20:19, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
   
I told you the rule 5 times and you did the opposite, then complained that no one told you the rule. It's totally backwards for you to call me the ignorant one, and it won't help your argument either. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:38, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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:No. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:00, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
:I didn't complain I just said sorry :/ [[User:NexCarnifex|NexCarnifex]] 01:09, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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== DBZ Characters ==
   
You did complain earlier.And you just called me ignorant and stubborn when this whole time I've just been trying to direct you to the proper channels and stop your previous edit warring. You're on a site with rules picked by the community, so you need to respect those rules and take advice from veteran editors when they pass along info. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:33, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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Characters from DBZ films and DBFZ are in the DBZ Characters section and they should be in separate categories like Dragon Ball film characters and Dragon Ball video game characters.
   
==Can I?==
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Sincerely, you-know-who-62.
May I please re-create the Dragon Ball Gang template your 10X-majesty? - {{User:SaiyanElite/sig}} 09:56, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:The bad news is I wouldn't have deleted it if the answer was going to be yes. The template you added was highly redundant with the Z Fighters template, so it's not efficient to have both. Templates in general are space-hogs that tend to be bulkier than categories with little added benefit. And we probably already have too many categories, so you can imagine how adding a whole template figures in. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 10:00, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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:DBZ films are DBZ. Except DBZ Super films, but some people would even say they are too. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:22, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
   
Duh, Me no itiot, (I believe) you asked me to ask to create first remember? I knew it wasn't going to happen, but wanted to hear you reason for deleting it anyhow. - {{User:SaiyanElite/sig}} 10:08, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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== Wiki Manager ==
   
:There's a pretty big difference between this and the last scenario. Posting a broken link to a page that doesn't exist serves no purpose and makes the article seem messy and unkempt. Adding tons of redundant text to dozens of articles is a huge change that needs to be approved first. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:12, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, as you'll recall a while back [[User:HighJewElfKing|HighJewElfKing]] messaged the DB wiki admins to [[User talk:10X Kamehameha#Fandom Wiki Manager|tell us he would be acting as our Wiki Manager]], but then got back to say we'd have someone else. Well I'm the one who ended up with the task of Wiki Manager for Dragon Ball wiki, so I'll fulfill the role he outlined in his message along with my already existing duties. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 16:57, August 18, 2019 (UTC)
   
== sayain logo again ==
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On a separate note, Sosuagwu17 brought it to my attention that [[User:Shakuran13|Shakuran13]] should be listed on the admin page as retired, since he has not been active for over 9 months. Would you like to adjust the admin page or do you not mind if I do it? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 21:19, August 22, 2019 (UTC)
hes back http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:SaiyanlogoDaMeng more porn pics ban him please [[User:Vegtassj5|<font color=blue style=background:red>We got to work for what we want or well never get it</font>]] 12:40, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks, it's been taken care of. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:14, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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:Go ahead. What does a Wiki manager do? How are they selected? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:05, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
:hes persistent [[User:Vegtassj5|<font color=blue style=background:red>We got to work for what we want or well never get it</font>]] 02:47, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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I'm not entirely sure of what the selection process was for Wiki Managers. My role as Wiki Manager on DB Wiki is basically to act as a point of contact between the wiki's community and full-time Fandom staff members, and also to help the wiki improve. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:44, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Inappropriate Avatar ==
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==Luffy1234512345==
I do not think [[User:Drayden_Stone|this user]] has a suitable profile pic for an all-ages site; considering how strict the wiki is about stuff like this. - [[User:Kill You|Kill You]] 14:22, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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After leaving him a warning for vandalizing a few articles in his talkpage, this user had vandalized my user profile and personally insulted me using profanity. [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/User:Sosuagwu17?diff=prev&oldid=1844530] [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/User:Sosuagwu17?diff=next&oldid=1844530] ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 02:45, August 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
: Ah, he seems to have cropped it, now. But talk page pic is not any better. Letting you know because if some anime shots are censored, a picture of a real woman ''-almost naked-'' shouldn't also be there. - [[User:Kill You|Kill You]] 21:41, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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:I blocked him for 2 weeks. Thanks for letting us know. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 10:56, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
::It seems to be Maryse, a female wrestler.. {{User:Jeangabin666/sig}} 21:49, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Okay ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 13:43, August 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
Okay, I'll leave him a message about it. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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hi. so i edited the bit in Gine's page yet it didn't seem to stick as having been edited despite the fact i clicked Publish. Gine's not Turles' mom and even in her history it says her kids are Raditz and Goku.
   
==RE:Talk Page Image==
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in that point actually in Turles' page Goku's' entire family are listed as his relatives which isn't proven to be canonically true but rather something stated as a Dubism and never confirmed by Akira Toriyama. Also, Goku Jr is stated to be from an alternate timeline as GTis non-canon.
Yea sure. :D I'll change it to something less explicit. Although, why do you make this wiki an all-ages wiki when Wikia only allows users 13+? -- {{Drayden}} 01:27, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:In most countries the age of adulthood is considered between 17-21 years old, which is much older than 13. Many users here have also admitted to being younger than 13, which is not allowed, but there is really no way for us to prove it. Either way, adult content is best left off a site about a children's cartoon. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:51, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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A few people have seemingly tried to fix the Turles' page stuff but can't? myself included.
   
::Ah, now that makes sense. ^.^ But could you give me a few days to change the image. I need to find a good replacement picture. (: -- {{Drayden}} 02:15, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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Should it be noted that Gine's hairstyle is an option in dragonball Xenoverse 2 which makes it possible to create Gine out of the custom time patroler?that fact is listed in Bulla's profile and Gine's shared fact is referenced but its not in her actual page.
   
You can have as long as you like to find a new image, but the current one should be taken down right away. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:19, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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:Please sign your posts. Did you get any error message when this happened? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:25, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
   
: Okay ^.^ -- {{Drayden}} 02:20, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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== my edits and some others have pointed out. ==
   
== Not sure if this counts ==
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Hi, ok i think i did my first submisison to your wall thing wrong but lets try again.
An anon http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:64.121.25.55 seems to be leaving disparaging remarks on blogs. I don't know if these are really that bad, but perhaps you could take a look? {{User:Shakuran13/sig5}} 02:24, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Didn't seem terrible. I deleted the comments. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:12, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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Gine's page was edited by me and you took notice of it yet the edit didn't seem to stick and I'm not sure why. this is in relation to Gine's page as well as that of her family members. Turles is not Gine's son as in every literature and media she herself is mentioned in she has 2 sons, Raditz and Goku. Everything that lists Turles as goku's brother are Dubisms and its never been proven as a fact or stated as such by Akira Toriyama.
:Alright, just a heads up lol {{User:Shakuran13/sig5}} 23:51, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Supersaiyan09 ==
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Should we add in that Gine's hairstyle is an option in Xenoverse 2 and thus it is possible to create her out of your custom character just as it is with Bulla-Bra? Gine's possible creation out of th ecustom is listed in Bulla's page but not in her own.
A liitle over a year ago he hacked my account by guessing ewhhich I bluntly made easy by making it Yamcha,. He then used my account and IP to troll and vandalize and make sockpupperts. A few others did this as well but they're gone. Can you ban Supersaiyan09 if he still has sockpuppets on here. [[User:Yamcha09Returns|Yamcha09Returns]] 07:12, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Sockpuppets are not allowed and we always get rid of any that we see. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:21, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
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Goku Jr is also from an alternate universe as GTis not canon.
   
==thanks alot 10x Kamehameha.==
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(CharmcasterX)
thanks alot 10x Kamehameha. {{unsigned|thanks alot 10x Kamehameha.}}
 
   
==Can you help me out with a banning?==
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:Thanks for signing your post. Please read our stance on canon. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:27, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
About a week ago I was banned by Kotsu for cursing on chat. He told me it would be a two day ban, and as you know by now a week has passed. Can you please speak to Kotsu/unban me or something. It would be greatly appreaciated. [[User:Gotenfan1195|Gotenfan1195]] 16:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)Gotenfan1195
 
   
:Did you ask him on his talk page already? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:55, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
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== Citation corps ==
   
== Blog ==
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I see back in the day DB wiki had a [[Dragon Ball wiki:Citation Corps|citation corps]], should we try bringing it back? Or is it better to archive it and remove it's category? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:35, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
I made a blog about what Supersaiyan09 and his toll buddies did and NamekianFusion took it down when it broke no rules [[User:Yamcha09Returns|Yamcha09Returns]] 19:41, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Making a blog about trolls is basically asking for trolls to come here. The best way to deal with trolls is to totally ignore them. Like any bullies and troublemakers without a serious cause, trolls are here to get attention. Don't give it to them and they won't bother you so much. If you have some real life issue it doesn't need to be talked about here. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:57, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
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:I think it’s worth having. We need more references to get up to best practices. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:29, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Page ==
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Well, well if it isnt 10x been a long time man. You still running the wiki i see. Whats been up? --[[File:VegitoSS.png|40px]][[file:Vegito_SSJ4.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:SSJ4_Vegeta.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:Goku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpg|40px|bottom]][[User:supremegogeta|<font color="red" style="background:black">Supreme</font>]][[User_talk:supremegogeta|<font color="red" style="background:black">gogeta</font>]][[file:Goku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:Ss4goku_anime.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:Ss4GOGETA.jpg|40px|bottom]][[File:Gogeta photo.jpg|25px]] 11:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
'''<u>Which page ?</u>'''
 
   
what page is it 19:42, April 11, 2012 (UTC)[[Special:Contributions/24.2.165.47|24.2.165.47]]ss4 Vegeto
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:Eh, same old. Yourself? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:29, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Uh what are you talking about? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:59, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
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== New admin? ==
   
==Lucas.kruuse==
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Our admin body is pretty good at the moment, but I believe that [[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu]] would be a valuable asset to our team; he already knows how to follow admin procedure (giving warnings etc), checks most edits, has been implementing licensing on images, treats other users fairly and always reports to an admin when something is wrong. Additionally, he tends to be on the wiki at times when there are no admins available. What do you think? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:18, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
I think this side is the best of all {{unsigned|Lucas.kruuse}}
 
   
== Hey dude! ==
 
Hey dude, hope all is going well! (I'm SSG with this new account incase you've forgotten, haha.) Anyway, hope you're doing well, and I've sent you an email. :D [[User:The Ultimate Hermit|The Ultimate Hermit]] 22:43, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:I'm good thanks, and you? I got you're email and we're all well aware lol. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:03, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Parody ==
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I agree. It would be very helpful for him to have admin privalges. It would also give us more time to focus on the other areas of the wiki. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 00:01, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
There is a possible parody accont off SSJ4 Vegito. I'd warn him before blocking him though in case it's unintentional. [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ss4_Vegeto http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ss4_Vegeto [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 00:08, April 12, 2012 (UTC)]
 
   
:Thanks for bringing this up. There are a lot of users with names similar to that, but this one doesn't appear to be a troll or anything. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:04, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
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Yeah I'd support that, I already gave him rollback privileges a bit ago. He also seems to be on at a time when some admins aren't and it's good to have at least one admin around at any point in the day.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 04:53, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Since you're on ==
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Certainly not a good idea. He acts like '''DragonEmeperor''' reverting back most of the edits other users do. A problem that, as once stated, might make users stop editing here. No one will be able to anything and if it gets to his head, the person might even get blocked unfairly.
An anon left a rude comment on this blog http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Baby_is_the_saiyan_hater/Who_is_goku%27s_mother%3F [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 02:02, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks for the message, I left him a note. However, what you did was just as bad, since you called him dumb in return. In the future, either ignore trolls or report them, but don't break the rules to try and get back at them. When two users both break the rules, neither is right, and they both end up in trouble. No big deal this time though. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:10, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
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I mostly take care of Dragon Ball Online and Heroes stuff here, as long as he keeps away from my edits (that not many here knows about it, to be honest), then we won't have a problem. But this should really be taken into consideration. [[User:Bargeta|Bargeta]] ([[User talk:Bargeta|talk]]) 15:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Drop by on chat, I want to discuss stuff. ==
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Thats funny, I thought Bargeta was Rogeta's sock puppet account, he even told me he had one before months ago in tournament chat.. [[User:FlatZone|FlatZone]] ([[User talk:FlatZone|talk]]) 16:27, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
I'm a relatively new user on here, and I got some suggestions. {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
 
   
:You can just leave those here and I'll read them when I get a chance. Thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:30, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
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:There are similarities with DragonEmeperor but he does at least explain himself. My concern with him becoming a Mod when he mentioned it was that he'd be too quick to block people. I don't know if that would problem here but he could always leave it for other Admims to deal with at first while he warmed into it.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 18:11, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
::Some of these suggestions I'd prefer to say in private. Either we chat or we can talk by email. :) {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
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I agree that we should let him getting into the Dragon Ball Wiki administration as its newest member, after all he is a good user, but I think we should take into account certain trends that may resemble DragonEmeperor's ones and let him try to correct them, as stated above.
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{{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 22:48, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
Email is fine then, just use the "E-mail this user" function. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:35, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sounds like everyone is agreed to add him as a new admin. Bullza, can you take care of changing his rights and updating the site admin pages? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:47, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Emoticon suggestion? ==
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I can handle it if you like. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 12:54, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
Why not this one? We can just call it (naruto). {{User:Guysponge22/Sig4}} 00:03, April 14, 2012 (UTC)[[File:Naruto-0410-uuhssekiadajninuoykias-oturan.gif|thumb]]
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:Thank you for considering me for adminship. I honestly didn't think I would be an admin this soon or even become one but thank you. I will do my best to handle my duties here as an admin in this wiki and ensure situations are handled properly and fairly here. You can count on me. I won't let you guys down as we are all a community. Don't worry, I definitely will be fair to other users and change certain part of my actions that may resemble DragonEmeperor's bad ones so people can feel like they can contribute here because this wiki needs contributors to help grow this wiki so I accept any contributions as long as it is good. I've said it once and I will say it again thank you for considering me for adminship and I will do my best as an admin here. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 14:12, October 4, 2019 (UTC))
   
:All set! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:14, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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== Discord ==
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Has there been any progress in regards to Final Chidori's proposal to create a Discord server for this wiki? I left the Spanish Dragon Ball Wiki administration a few months ago, but I still manage the Discord server of that community (in fact, Final Chidori joined that server), so I'd like to know.
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{{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 22:53, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
==Vegito Emoticon==
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:I’m not aware of any progress there. Isn’t Discord for gamers? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:45, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
These are the best pictures I found to be used as Vegito and Super Vegito emoticons. [[File:Vegito_normal_plus_shading_by_waelalz-d3fw7cj.png|thumb]][[File:Super_vegito_line_drawing_2_by_waelalz-d3frx90.png|thumb|left]] {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig15}} 00:19, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Those would end up being like microscopic. The size will adjust to the square background, meaning these images will be only about half the size of the standard emoticon size. Also, the many thin lines on those images will likely not exist. The estimate would be roughly this: [[File:Vegito_normal_plus_shading_by_waelalz-d3fw7cj.png|18px]][[File:Super_vegito_line_drawing_2_by_waelalz-d3frx90.png|18px]]
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These days most wikis use discords for communication, if we set up one for the DB wiki we would need to select admins for it (they would not necessarily have to be the same ones for the wiki). I can look into getting us a discord if it's something that would be beneficial here. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 12:59, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
   
It was the best I could find; wish I could find ones like that Goku emoticon that we have. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig15}} 00:59, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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:I’m personally against it. It would be challenging to monitor and moderate an entirely external website. We seem to have all the editing and social tools we need here already. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:52, October 6, 2019 (UTC)
   
Yah, there's sort of a trick to making good images for emoticons. Instead of regular detailed pictures of characters, there's a certain way of adapting fewer, larger features that makes them good. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:21, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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== Opinion ==
   
== Gohan Ibbe ==
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Can I get your input on [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Wiki_talk:Manual_of_Style#Moving_the_Dragon_Ball_Heroes_info this]? - [[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 20:37, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
   
Could you make Gohan Ibbe a Chat mod? He is really friendly against users¨, has good grammar, and has pretty much a great knowledge of Dragon Ball. [[User:AssassinHood|AssassinHood]] 07:55, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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:Done. It was good judgment to keep moving ahead when you didn’t hear from me for a couple days. You’re doing an outstanding job as a bureaucrat. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 15:44, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
   
How do i make an Infobox?
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Well thank you, I'm trying to find ways to make improvements big and small all the time if possible.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 19:05, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
   
-Sushi1234
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== Pride Gene and Honour Gene ==
   
:Thank you for the input. The easiest thing to do for a beginner is copy an existing one, paste it to the place you want it, and simply adjust the value to meet your needs. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 09:37, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, I just had a quick question I am looking into the origins of some terms that you posted or I think you posted under the name SupremeBooyah. It's in the following forum posting area of this wiki(https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Super_saiyan_3_vegeta%3F) In it you or well I assume it is you say the following quote " It's because of the gene's. The reason Vegeta could'nt go SSJ3 is because Goku is a Honour Gene. Honour Gene's can go SSJ3. However, Vegeta wasn't a Honour, instead he is a Pride Gene. Pride Gene's can only go SSJ, ASSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, and SSJ4. vegeta is garbage....several times he fight somebody he says im the prince of saiyans and gets his ass kicked look at the broly movie took him like 20 seconds to get knocked out" With that said assuming this was you where did you find the terms "Pride Gene" and "Honour Gene"? I have looked at every interview and guide that I could find and nowhere is it stated that "Pride Genes" and or "Honour Genes" are a thing. Is this something you made up or maybe confused from some fan made creation? If this was not you that posted it could you point me to the correct user who did so I can ask them if they know. Thank you for your time and I appreciate any info you provide.[[User:Matchstckgmr|Matchstckgmr]] ([[User talk:Matchstckgmr|talk]]) 12:58, November 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Email sent ==
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:This is my account, that is a different user. You said his name in the post. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:53, November 3, 2019 (UTC)
Check your email. {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
 
   
:I didn't get anything. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:26, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you I misread something on the other guy's profile that lead me to believe it was an alternative account and that you were redirecting people to this one to ask questions to sorry. Thank you for your time I hope the person in question that I am trying to contact over this matter gets back to me soon.[[User:Matchstckgmr|Matchstckgmr]] ([[User talk:Matchstckgmr|talk]]) 03:28, November 4, 2019 (UTC)
   
:: Please see message 82. {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
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:No problem. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:55, November 14, 2019 (UTC)
   
== [[Toonami]] Promos ==
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==New Bureaucrat==
Am I allowed to change the heading so I can add promos and intros of DragonBall (as Toonami called it) and DragonBall GT? --{{User:Guysponge22/Sig2}} 22:40, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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Should Neff have bureaucrat rights here since he already has wiki manager rights and I figured if he is able to add or demote users globally on any wikia he is on with his wiki manager rights he might as well be considered a bureaucrat since he has demoted a few retired admins and bureaucrats a few months ago with his wiki manager rights and he is pretty much mainly active here. What are your thoughts? I personally believe that Neff should be a new bureaucrat here. So we would have 3 instead of 2 and Neff seems bureaucrat worthy to me. And also with his wiki manager rights he can technically promote himself as a bureaucrat here if he wants to but obviously he would probably need permission from you first. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 20:19, November 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
:What heading? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:39, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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I appreciate you making this suggestion though I don't really mind either way, I'm actually leaning slightly more towards not being a bureaucrat as I feel it would not really make much of a difference (it would basically only be giving me permission to partake in bureaucrat-only decisions, which I could be involved in anyway if asked to pitch in by Bullza or 10X) so I'd say it may be better if someone else could eventually fill a position as third bureaucrat. Of course if 10X and Bullza agree I won't turn the role down. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 22:06, November 23, 2019 (UTC)
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:Yeah that’s what I mean so you can be involved in making bureaucrat decisions with the other bureaucrats or maybe making a decision by yourself as a bureaucrat without having to get permission or wait for the input of another bureaucrat regarding certain management of user rights since you already have the right to promote or demote users like bureaucrats can do with your wiki manager rights even though I know it wouldn’t make much of a difference even if you were promoted but I feel it is necessary for you to be labeled as bureaucrat so you wouldn’t be limited to waiting for another bureaucrat for certain management of user rights and you can basically make bureaucrat decisions by yourself. I feel like it’s time for you to be a bureaucrat considering how long you have been on this wiki and still remain active that I feel the need for a third bureaucrat which I feel you are the best choice considering you already have wiki manager and this is the only wiki you regularly edit on so why not be a bureaucrat here. Because if you are not labeled bureaucrat, you would still have to act as an admin here despite the fact you already have the right to promote users or demote users just like bureaucrats and if you were bureaucrat here it would slightly be more easier for you because you would get to now make bureaucrat decisions or duties without having to be limited to just admin duties here considering your wiki manager includes bureaucrat rights with the addition of allowing you to demote even bureaucrats which normal bureaucrats in a regular wiki bureaucrat can't and you are more active in here then 10X because even 10X doesn’t really regularly log on here and edits a few things before he is off for a few weeks and if one bureaucrat is not that active at least we would have too that are really active which would be you Neff and Bullza if you were made bureaucrat. It would really be handy if we have one bureaucrat that can demote other bureaucrats or sysops if they are inactive or even check user ip addresses for any sock puppetry ry since Neff can do it through his wiki manager rights. I even believe wiki managers are capable of blocking users globally for bad behavior in different wikias, whether vandalism, spamming, not being nice to other users or breaking rules in different wikias overall. Neff is technically a part time staff member so why not just keep him in charge of this wiki like Bullza and make him bureaucrat when you are not around or don’t have time to be on here regularly. I think it would be of some use for Neff to be made bureaucrat since he is regularly on here so that way we would have two active bureaucrats while we have one that is not that particularly active here. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 23:28, November 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
== Email not working ==
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:Well obviously if anyone else was going to be made a bureaucrat then it could only be Neffyarious but if he doesn't really want to do it then like he said it doesn't really make much of a difference. The main thing between an admin and a bureaucrat is the ability to promote people right? And that doesn't happen that often. I think I've done it the once in a year and a half. Otherwise it's not a decision I'd ever make alone, I'd always ask for everyone else's opinion first because I see us all as equal in that regard so it's all the same anyway. Also if he's the wiki manager and has his own specific things to do then I wouldn't want to burden him with extra things when I can do it.
Can we meet on chat sometime tomorrow afternoon, and we can talk on PM? I got emailuser 'enabled', and I'm guessing you do to, but it is not working. {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
 
   
:I don't know what you think afternoon means. Do you have an email set up through the system? Did it return a copy to you properly? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:52, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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:While on the subject though, I've removed a few chat moderator rights from users who haven't edited since 2016.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 00:41, November 24, 2019 (UTC)
   
:: Luckily I saved a copy on wordpad, but I tried to resend it but it sent back an error message. It's not working, and I do want to talk to you. Try to drop by on chat and if I'm on, I'll talk to you, because email isn't working. {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
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I guess your right if Neff doesn’t want to be bureaucrat we can’t just force him to be one since he is already a wiki manager and it wouldn’t really make much of a difference but I thought it would be sufficient and useful for at least 2 active bureaucrats while 10X is out since 10X doesn’t regularly log on here and it might put a weight off you and 10X shoulders if we had Neff made a bureaucrat so Neff can make bureaucrat decision on promoting users with other bureaucrats, admins and regular without being limited to only acting as an admin here when he can act as a bureaucrat while here since he already has wiki manager rights that allows him to promote and demote users like bureaucrats and he might as well be made bureaucrat since he already has the right to promote or demote users. Neff just seems like the perfect fit as a new bureaucrat but like I said if it doesn’t make much of a difference for him then he doesn’t have to be bureaucrat which is fine even though he does agree that the need of a third bureaucrat might be okay and he wouldn’t mind joining in as the new bureaucrat if the bureaucrats agree to let him in as a new bureaucrat. Because what if 10X no longer edits here and becomes really inactive to the point of retirement then Neff may have to demote him and since Neff is on here regularly he might as well just be a bureaucrat here to supplement for 10X's partial inactivity. I think that Neff should join the team for currently active bureaucrats since 10X is not that active on here since he edits a few things before he is out for a few weeks despite being listed as active and I feel that the need for two currently and actually active bureaucrats would be necessary instead of just 1. So 10X can have two bureaucrats to help him watch over this wiki while he is out. This might be a good idea but I will wait on the thoughts from the other admins. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 02:44, November 24, 2019 (UTC))
   
Okay I'll try. By the way, why do you do 3 tildes instead of 4 for your sig? The time and date tag is really helpful for knowing when messages are new. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:45, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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Just to be clear, being a bureaucrat would not be any sort of issue and would not be any sort of burden when paired with my manager rights. It's not that I don't want to do it, just that maybe it would be better to keep the space open for someone else to eventually take? We'll see what 10X says. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:52, November 24, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Sorry, but my signature doesn't look right with the 4 titles. I posted this message at 12:46 UTC. {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
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:All that is really required is 1 bureaucrat, and we already have 2. Neffyarious would most likely have input to admin promotions taking place here, so functionally I don’t see a benefit. BTW Bullza, some chat mods only chat and don’t edit, which I have always felt is okay. I know the retirement policy has always been editing-specific, but it may be worth an exception or modification for chat mods who never edited much or at all to begin with. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:26, November 25, 2019 (UTC)
   
Signatures are a specialty of mine! I can try and help you out with that if you like. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 18:54, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
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==KATKATKATKATKAT==
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where does one piece fall on the scale of liking?[[User:KATKATKATKATKAT|KATKATKATKATKAT]] ([[User talk:KATKATKATKATKAT|talk]]) 23:33, December 8, 2019 (UTC)
   
==Troll==
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:I like it, but less than DBZ. One Piece has a tendency to put a lot of episodes between major battles and events. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:14, December 10, 2019 (UTC)
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:SaiyanTeeHee
 
   
We need to get him IP banned. He's spamming pornography on our wiki and in chat and he keeps making sockpuppets. [[User:Kotsu the EM Wave Hero|<font color=#8E35EF style=background:black>'''Kotsu the EM Wave Hero'''</font>]][[File:Goten012.gif|60px]] 23:34, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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==Discord==
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Do we have a discord server? Also, I am the new discussions mod. Nice to meet ya
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[[User:DragonBallZ050|DragonBallZ050]] ([[User talk:DragonBallZ050|talk]]) 17:12, December 31, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Thanks, it's been taken care of. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:40, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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:Nice to meet you too. No we don’t. This Wiki has its own chat functions. We haven’t had a need for an external server to do the same functions we already have. What would the benefits be? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:42, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
   
==Tjakari==
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Mods could communicate easier and then we could also message each other
Can you make a troll emoticon?{{User:Tjakari/sig}} 23:52, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
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[[User:DragonBallZ050|DragonBallZ050]] ([[User talk:DragonBallZ050|talk]]) 19:44, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
   
:No. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:40, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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:Talk pages seem to work for us. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:42, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
== Two trolls ==
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== Message wall ==
This [[User:Trunksl2|user]] and this [[User:SaiyanTreeHee|user]] have both been vandalizing pages. [[File:GohanGoingIntoARock.jpg|70px]][[file:Android16Ep184.png|55px]][[User:Ssj2gohan99|<font color=dark green style=background:yellow>'''Ssj2'''</font>]][[file:Epicgohanscream.png|40px]][[User:Ssj2gohan99|<font color=dark green style=background:yellow>'''gohan'''</font>]][[file:Gohan_ssj2.jpg|57px]][[file:GohanSSIIVsCellNV.png|55px]] 00:10, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks, they have been blocked. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:41, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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What do you think of switching from User talk pages to Message walls? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 20:50, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
==Trunksl2==
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:Do you know of another Wikia that uses it as an example for me to look at? [[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 20:55, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
This New user named Trunksl2 keeps on making pointless Blogs. He has so made 2 each that only caontain "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOl" but much longer. Stop him!{{User:EmperorPeelaugh575/sig}} 00:11, April 15, 2012 (UTC)EmperorPeelaugh575
 
   
I would like to make it clear that TrunksI and Trunksl2 are NOT, N-O-T the same person. {{User:SSJ4 Vegito/sig15}} 00:13, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
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The Nanatsu no Taizai or My Hero Academia wikis are examples of a large anime-based wiki that use message wall. They are arguably more efficient than talk pages, for example: they stops edit conflicts on talk since multiple users can send messages at the same time, it also notifies anyone who is part of a discussion on the message wall. If we switch to it it will automatically archive our old talk pages. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:20, January 4, 2020 (UTC)
:The four trolls have been dealt with.--[[User talk:NamekianFusion|Chapapapapa]] 00:25, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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:I prefer the standard talk page. It’s more customizable and lets user make it their own. There’s just a lot more info you can get from it and put into it, one of the great things about a Wiki in general. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:09, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
   
That guy was a different user here's the user page http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:Trunksl2
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== Minor update ==
   
Like Vegito said not the same person., Also how do i undo an edit i heard somewhere that normal users can undo edits.
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It's been awhile since I've done anything on this site. Good to see things are still going on. Sorry for the sudden disappearance but I just couldn't manifest the energy or want to work with even a quarter of the enthusiam as I once did. I'm by no means asking for my old position, I still haven't accomplished the things I've wanted during the disappearance and I don't really want to go with the whole "touch and go" thing anymore. This is just an explanation that is owed to everyone what happened, a "hello once again" and a notice that I may be sometimes once more to edit a little and offer opinion incase anyone still cares for it. Any updates I should know about? I already know about the role change, thanks for that it'd be weird for someone to recieve an automated greeting from a dead admin.
apparently there seems to be another one named DBZEPICSAUSE i think i'm just letting you know there will probably be more. [[File:Images_(41).jpg|87px]]'''[[User:TrunksI| <font color=lavender style=background:#B51CF2>Trunks</font><font color=gold style=background:#B51CF2> Hope of the future</font>]]'''<font style=background:#B51CF2>[[File:Colored_042_tru_002_by_vicdbz-d3hhur1.png|40px]]</font>
 
   
== Spammer ==
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Also one last thing. Has any one put into consideration changing the old character infobox images? Someone had mentioned how it's weird to use the older images when there's perfectly acceptable newer (and cleaner) versions of them in DB Super. For example, why still use the obviously old Goku one? I've seen at least one good substitue in DBS Broly. The one of Vegeta on Babidi's spaceship is also weird when there's been an obvious change in his character since then. If you haven't, something to consider. Happy 2020 man. — ''[[User:Anemicne|A]]'' <sup>([[User talk:Anemicne|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Anemicne|c]])</sup> 21:47, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
This anon made a spam page
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:It’s nice to hear from you and thanks for the note. It’s really up to you if you want to edit and how much. There’s no apology needed for times where you edit more or less. Thanks as always when you do edit : ) As for character infoboxes, I agree we should update some to make them more relevant to the majority of readers. We should handle it on a page-by-page basis. If there are good base form Goku images from Super then why not use one? But if lesser characters have the best images from older series it might make sense to leave theirs older. The biggest changes to an anime Wiki are capturing content from ongoing series, and we have that once again here! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:17, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
   
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.46.69.198 [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 16:57, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
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==signature==
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Could you make me a signature like yours please? Can it say DragonBallZ050 with an image of frieza? Thanks in advance! [[User:DragonBallZ050|DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen]] ([[User talk:DragonBallZ050|talk]]) 16:29, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
   
:Thanks, all set. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:42, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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:Try using the signatures creation instructions link at the top of this page, then let me know if you still need help. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:13, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
   
== Thinhill returns! ==
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Hello, can I have one as well? I want it to say Yen and have a pic of Goku this one
[[User:Thinhil123]] is up to his usual misdeeds. [[File:First form frieza by emiyansaiyan-d330jqm.png|45px]]{{User:Freeza Burn/sig}} 01:16, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks, I don't know what is up with that guy... {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:24, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
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[[User:BROLYEN53|Yen]] ([[User talk:BROLYEN53|talk]]) 00:35, January 13, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53
   
== Gohan ibbe ==
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Never mind I see the link sorry!
Hello 10x, i highly recommend Gohan Ibbe for Chat Mod. He is a good user and he is really helpful. In my opinion, Gohan Ibbe is also a very friendly user. PLease have him as a chat mod. Thanks :) [[User:Rosehybrid101|Rosehybrid101]] 13:59, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thank you for the feedback. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 18:59, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
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{{SUBST:User:BROLYEN53/sig2}} 13:22, January 13, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53[[File:Dragon-ball-super-broly-1146234-1280x0.jpeg|thumb]]
   
== Possible vandal/spammer ==
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:I’m glad it was helpful. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:13, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
These two anons appear to be vandalizing/spamming forums by putting on stuff that either has nothing to do with it or shouldn't be there
 
   
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/141.0.9.102
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I cant do it. Can you make me one?DragonBallZ050 12:42, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
   
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/208.54.80.161 [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 03:11, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sure. What color font, what color background, and what Frieza picture? I can make any of those choices if you don’t have a preference. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:30, January 23, 2020 (UTC)
   
:Thanks for the notice. I wouldn't say it's vandalism though, they are just new users who don't really know where to post their DB-related interests yet. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:14, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
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Oven done it bowl, don’t worry. Do you like it. <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid Blue; background:red;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial black ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:Green;">Joe is here!</span><span style="color:#000080;"> </span><span style="color: #F0FFF0 ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:white;">Have any questions? Talk here at [[User talk:DragonBallZ050]]| Enjoy your stay!</span></sup> </span> 13:50, January 23, 2020 (UTC)
   
==My sign==
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:Sweet. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:30, January 26, 2020 (UTC)
Hows my sign? {{User:Honey_singh/sig}} 11:52, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Your signature? Looks like it's working correctly. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:15, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
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== Manual of Style ==
   
== I'm on chat for a little while. ==
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Hey can you take a look at [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Wiki_talk:Manual_of_Style#Section_headers this] and tell me what you think? Thanks. <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid red; background:black;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial black ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:orange;">It is your local hero, Bullza!</span><span style="color:#000080;"> </span><span style="color: #F0FFF0 ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:orange;">Have any questions? Talk here at [[User talk:Bullza]]| Let me know</span></sup> </span> 17:31, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
Now would be the best time to drop by and have a discussion, unless if you want to do it on Friday. UTC 19:48 {{User:Colgatecity/sig2}}
 
   
:Done! Thanks for the chat. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:18, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sure I’ll take a look. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:04, February 1, 2020 (UTC)
   
==Guysponge22==
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==Discussions Moderator==
Heya! Um, I think you should block [[User:Letsgetinbedkotsu|this... user]] 'cause he/she is just creeping me out. --{{User:Guysponge22/Sig2}} 00:08, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, 10X Kamehameha!
   
:I'll take a look. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:18, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
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I am Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin and I have been a Discussions Moderator since December 29, 2019 and the first Mod of the newcomers. I came to ask if I could become a temporary Admin to oversee the Discussion Posts until [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/User:0551E80Y 0551E80Y] returns. I believe that I will be able to handle the responsibility, as I am an Admin on Weebipedia. I would only stick to the Discussion Posts and stay away from the Wiki, and if I must ban a user, I would always let the other Admins know whenever I have to do so. I always strive to keep this Fandom a safe and enjoyable place for everyone. If I am passed up, I completely understand. There are a fair number of people who have asked, I imagine. Thank you very much for your time, and have a blessed day! I have left a message regarding this on the Talk Pages the other Admins (Except for Prince Zarbon, since he said that he would be inactive), since this would be a joint decision between the Main Admins.
   
==Spammer==
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2/1/2020 <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid Blue; background:purple;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:lime;">Fenn is here!</span><span style="color:lime;"> </span><span style="color: lime ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:lime;">For help, message me here[[User talk:Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin]], Have a blessed day!</span></sup> </span> 04:10, February 2, 2020 (UTC)
There's been a spammer going around making rude comments, vandalising, and making Troll pages. I've put all of the up for deletion. Just ban him forever. Thanks {{unsigned|TeamUnitedNerds}}
 
   
:The spammer he's talking about is an anon. [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.213.22.193 Specifically this one.] {{User:Yamcha626/sig}} 20:29, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
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:Sound like Bullza has it under control with the two other recent adds. Thank you for the offer but it looks like we’re set for now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:54, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
   
Namekian Fusion banned him [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 20:32, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
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==Lucas005m==
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hey sorry to bother i made an edit in this page (
   
==Hey==
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https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Warriors_of_Earth_Assemble) because the date of release is wrong, it says january of 2019 but it is 2020. and it was changed back. did i do something wrong? 
Hi, 10X! Sorry for bothering you but this user [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:DrSaiyanLogo User:DrSaiyanLogo] is spamming all over the chat repeatedly. Can you block him?
 
   
<span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:250px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:210px; border:5px ridge darkgreen; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(Brown), to(Black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, Aqua, Gold); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em yellow; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:#FE9A2E">[[File:Ss4gokukamehameha.jpg|52px]][[User:Ultimate Cell|''<b><big><span style="color:white;font-family:Papyrus; text-shadow: white 0 1px 1px; ">Ultimate Cell</span></big></b>'']] [[User talk:Ultimate Cell|<sup>''<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0px 0px 2px ; font-family:verdana">Leave me a massage</span>''</sup>]][[File:ApeGoku.jpg|52px]]</span> 12:44, April 19, 2012 (UTC)
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[[User:Lucas005m|Lucas005m]] ([[User talk:Lucas005m|talk]]) 14:30, February 18, 2020 (UTC)
   
[[File:Dfsdfsdfsdf.jpg|thumb|left|360px|Evidence of his spamming]][[File:Fdfsdfsdf.jpg|thumb|left|370px|Evidence]]
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I took a look and it seems the issue was that even though you corrected the date, you did take out the translated title and next lines out of the infobox. They weren't filled out at the time but they need to stay there for when they are used. <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid red; background:black;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial black ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:orange;">It is your local hero, Bullza!</span><span style="color:#000080;"> </span><span style="color: #F0FFF0 ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:orange;">Have any questions? Talk here at [[User talk:Bullza]]| Let me know</span></sup> </span> 00:52, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
   
:Hi there, and thanks for the screenshot. Please bring this to the attention of one of the chat mods and they will handle the situation. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:03, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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:Looks like Bullza sorted things out. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:46, March 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
:Well, that user is blocked by NamekianFusion, so I think, things has been settled and thanks for your response.
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== Chat Function Conversation ==
:<span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:250px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:210px; border:5px ridge darkgreen; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(Brown), to(Black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, Aqua, Gold); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em yellow; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:#FE9A2E">[[File:Ss4gokukamehameha.jpg|52px]][[User:Ultimate Cell|''<b><big><span style="color:white;font-family:Papyrus; text-shadow: white 0 1px 1px; ">Ultimate Cell</span></big></b>'']] [[User talk:Ultimate Cell|<sup>''<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0px 0px 2px ; font-family:verdana">Leave me a massage</span>''</sup>]][[File:ApeGoku.jpg|52px]]</span> 11:18, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Reverting Edits ==
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Hey 10X! Hope you're doing well. I remember from our initial conversation back in 2018 you were against getting a community Discord server. I'd appreciate your perspective on that [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Discord_Server here] when you get the chance. Thanks! —{{User:Final_Chidori/sigx}} 19:35, April 3, 2020 (UTC)
Hey 10X. I've seen other users have been able to revert multiple (around 2-4) edits on one page if someone has spammed inappropriate images on a single page, although i can only figure out how to revert one edit. Is there a special trick to being able to do this? There have been quite a few trolls/spammers recently and I would like to be able to help prevent them from doing things like this. Thanks. [[File:GohanGoingIntoARock.jpg|70px]][[file:Android16Ep184.png|55px]][[User:Ssj2gohan99|<font color=dark green style=background:yellow>'''Ssj2'''</font>]][[file:Epicgohanscream.png|40px]][[User:Ssj2gohan99|<font color=dark green style=background:yellow>'''gohan'''</font>]][[file:Gohan_ssj2.jpg|57px]][[file:GohanSSIIVsCellNV.png|55px]] 13:10, April 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Check your talk page. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:08, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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:Okay, I’ll take a look. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:31, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
   
:Wow, Thanks 10X. I'll definitely use this to help stop spamming. Thanks again. [[File:GohanGoingIntoARock.jpg|70px]][[file:Android16Ep184.png|55px]][[User:Ssj2gohan99|<font color=dark green style=background:yellow>'''Ssj2'''</font>]][[file:Epicgohanscream.png|40px]][[User:Ssj2gohan99|<font color=dark green style=background:yellow>'''gohan'''</font>]][[file:Gohan_ssj2.jpg|57px]][[file:GohanSSIIVsCellNV.png|55px]] 00:57, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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== Meshack ==
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I received a message from Meshack earlier asking if he could be allowed to return. He currently has an infinite ban and that was put into place four years ago. I asked if he'd learned from his mistakes (he hasn't got back to me yet) but if he promises to behave himself this time around then would you be alright with him returning until and if he made the same mistake again? I'm asking because you were he one to give him that infinite ban in the first place.
   
==Tjakari's Block==
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{{User:Bullza/sig}}
Actually, when he called me a bitch, I called him one first, and we both knew we were both joking. Just saiyan. {{User:NomadMusik/sig3}}
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14:52, April 18, 2020 (UTC)
   
:Well then you are both at fault. Even if you are joking, new users don't know that, they read your profanity, and use it freely. Profanity is not allowed here in any form in any section. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:41, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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:He's since assured me that he won't be like it anymore and if he did then the infinite ban again would be justified. As I don't know when you'll get around to seeing this, I'm just going to unblock him and hopefully he's alright.{{User:Bullza/sig}} 20:50, April 21, 2020 (UTC)
   
::I'm sorry. {{User:NomadMusik/sig3}}
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Use your best judgment. Sounds like you have. He was blocked at least 6 times here, but 4 years is a long time in which people might change. I recommend you keep an eye on him, at least for a bit. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 11:55, April 24, 2020 (UTC)
   
It's okay, just try and be more careful in the future. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:53, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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==LilHobo==
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User LilHobo is making personal attacks at me calling me stupid, retarded, and talking about my mom calling her retarded for making me all over a poll https://imgur.com/gallery/Cl3mx2S plz ban him -KnighMoon- If an enemy is big, small, weak or strong, I will always prevail! 21:27, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
   
:mmk. {{User:NomadMusik/sig3}}
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LilHobo has already been taken care of. It was handled by me, Yon, Jammer, and Ya Boi King Kai. He has received a one month ban for the incident.
   
Good, the section's already here. A few minutes ago, on chat, Tjakari used profanity and left before Kotsu could ban him, using an n-word and a v-word that I won't repeat in full. [[User:Kingawesome77|Kingawesome77]] | [[User_talk:Kingawesome77|Talk to me]] 01:15, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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5-1-2020
   
:Thanks, he has been previously blocked for several durations, the most recent being one month. He is now blocked for three months since he didn't follow the rules. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:21, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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{{User:Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin/SigReal|07:24,5/1/2020}}
   
== Faulconer Music Question ==
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:Thanks LSSF. Let me know if this continues KnighMoon. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:52, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
Should individual works of his for the Funimation Dub get their own pages on here? [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 18:59, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Yes. In the past we have made one article for each song, and then an additional article for any compilation albums that are produced and sold. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:29, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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== Forum migration ==
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Hey Kamehameha, I'm [[Help:Wiki Manager#Ursuul|Alex]], the new [[w:c:community:User blog:MisterWoodhouse/Introducing the Fandom Wiki Managers and Content Team|Wiki Manager]] for Dragon Ball Wiki. I'm here to assist you & the Wiki, but for the time being I have news that this Wiki's [[Special:Forum|Forum]] will soon be migrated to <span class="plainlinks" title="/f">[{{SERVER}}{{SCRIPTPATH}}/f Discussions]</span>, within the next month or so. If you have any questions regarding this upcoming change, feel free to reach out to me here or on Discord @ <code style="white-space: nowrap;"><nowiki>Ursuul#0575</nowiki></code>.<br/>{{User:Ursuul/s.css|1:22 AM Friday, July 17, 2020 (UTC)}}
   
Just out of curiosity, would the same thing go for the Kikuchi score? [[File:First form frieza by emiyansaiyan-d330jqm.png|45px]]{{User:Freeza Burn/sig}} 21:33, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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:Thanks for the news Alex. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 11:49, July 20, 2020 (UTC)
   
:Every song featured in the series can get an article, provided there is sufficient information on the song itself. If there isn't a title and an author, probably hold off. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 21:48, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
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==Planet Sadala Trivia==
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I have to speak with you about [[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] but specifically with this trivia, I need your input on [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Sadala#Trivia_errors this] as his logic regarding it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. [[User:Meshack|Meshack]] ([[User talk:Meshack|talk]]) 01:39, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
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:My bad. Your edit was correct and I reverted it back to your revision. {{User:Sosuagwu17/SigReal|02:08,8/2/2020}}
   
I'll start work on this later just curious should we skip mameless songs lke simply ttitling it Piccolo's Theme or Super Saiyan Theme or Super Buu Theme etc. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 00:42, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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Finally you admit you're wrong [[User:Meshack|Meshack]] ([[User talk:Meshack|talk]]) 02:18, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
:As I said in my previous comment, make sure there is a known title and author for the song. If you're going to have to make a name up for a song, then don't make the article. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 06:28, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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== Episodes that Adapt Chapters 1-11 ==
   
Well Bruce Faulconer just never named some of his themes so for exmpe Piccolo Theme is what he and fans call it. [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 06:33, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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Hi! I’d like to know what episodes adapt the following manga chapters:
   
:If there is an official source where he names his own song, then that is fine. Fan names or "common names" don't work on this site. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 06:36, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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1. Bloomers and the Monkey King
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2. No Balls!
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3. Sea Monkeys
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4. They Call Him...the Turtle Hermit!
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5. Oo! Oo! Oolong!
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6. So Long, Oolong!
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7. Yamcha and Pu’ar
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8. One, Two, Yamcha-cha!
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9. Dragon Balls in Danger!
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10. Onward to Fry-Pan...
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11. ...And Into the Fire!
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{{unsigned|ECW28}}
   
:Maybe [http://faulconer.com/dragon.html this] would be useful for checking names and such. [[File:First form frieza by emiyansaiyan-d330jqm.png|45px]]{{User:Freeza Burn/sig}} 06:40, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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:Please browse our episode articles to find this information. Thank you. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:05, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
:Thanks. I plan on using that to check names later. That's where I got the names from originally [[User:The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name|The User Who Has Long Since Forgotten His Name]] 06:47, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
==Just a couple suggestions==
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== Legendary Rosé Azeiren ==
Real quick, I just thought I might leave a couple suggestions for future refference. ^.^' [[User:BulbasaurBeach|This guy]] would make a wonderful rollback, and [[User:Callanball|this guy]] would make a wonderful moderator. {{User:TienShinhan88/sig12}} 06:43, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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Hello 10X Kamehameha,
   
:Okay, thanks for the input. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:02, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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I'm kinda new but i've been on fandoms for about 4-5 years, and I love Dragon Ball. Do you think I could become an admin or bureacrat like you? You will probably say no because I don't have a lot of experience, but I actually have a lot of experience helping people and am pretty good at it! 
   
==Troll==
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Thank you for your time,
There is a nasty little troll on the loose. Click [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User:UUBKNOWSEVERYTHING here]. xD -- {{Drayden}} 18:55, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Thanks, all set now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:02, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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[[User:Legendary Rosé Azeiren|Legendary Rosé Azeiren]] ([[User talk:Legendary Rosé Azeiren|talk]]) 22:36, September 2, 2020 (UTC)''Legendary Rose Azeiren''
   
Thanks, man. ^.^ -- {{Drayden}} 19:09, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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:Hello to you too, and welcome to the site. As you said, we look for users with a lot of experience here when we choose new admins. Additionally, you should get to know our policies and formats. For example, you should make a new section when posting about a new topic on a talk page. I did that for you here. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:27, September 6, 2020 (UTC)

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New Dragon Ball movieEdit

Hello! Do you think we could add a link to the new Dragon Ball 20th Movie Commemoration Project in the local nav? I think it'd be good because then it's easier for users to find. Let me know what you think!Witnessme (talk) 19:49, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean by local nav? Also, your user name is great! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:47, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry that it took me so long to respond! What I meant was the navigation tabs at the top of the wiki. And thanks! I really loved that movie. Witnessme (talk) 21:23, June 11, 2018 (UTC)

EditEdit

Dear 10xKamehameha

Hope all is well, I was reading over the Super Sayain 4 wiki and noticed it doesn't entail the Ozaru multiplication factor. It's stated Golden Great Ape is 10x stronger SSJ3, and SSJ4 is the culmination of Golden Great Ape and another x10 multiplyer. This detail should be clarified for the community and give better insight into the true scale of the conflicts portrayed in Dragon Ball GT. I request that this edit is changed and all is made well and known regarding the Super Sayain 4 transfirmation defintiely 20x stronger than Super Sayain 3 in Dragon Ball GT wikia.Thank You.

Josexbanner (talk) 22:49, March 24, 2018 (UTC) Jose Banner

Dragon Ball Enthusiast

Thank You

You can edit articles when there is something you want to change. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 16:00, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

BlockingEdit

There have been a couple of users who have been uploading images that do not belong on this wiki, previously I asked that some would kindly stop uploading these images. This newest [[1]] has been warned once already and has proceeded to upload pornographic images onto this wiki I ask you to please do something and have these images deleted.--Tuxedo12 (talk) 01:59, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

The user has been blocked and all his uploads have been deleted. Thanks for the heads up. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:19, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

DragonEmeperor is edit warring and adding false information to pages. Edit

Can you give him a warning or something? QuakingStar (talk) 02:03, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

I explained to him that Goku's potential was his Great Ape power in Dragon Ball but QuakingStar is too focused on the power level. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:08, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

No, I am focused on the fact you are adding false info to an article and you didn't bother to go to the talk page first and see why you were wrong. QuakingStar (talk) 02:11, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Your the one that didn't want to wait until an admin appear. The page has to stay the same until an admin decides it should stay or not. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:13, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

That is why I am waiting now. QuakingStar (talk) 02:15, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

If the information is false, you really don't need an admin to say you can remove it. Munchvtec (talk) 03:21, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
We only need one to settle the argument or the edit war won't end. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:14, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
To be fair, DragonEmeperor was the one ACTUALLY doing what the wiki has us do. If anything, Quaking, you were the one edit warring. And, regardless of whether or not the information is "valid", as you put it, you still have to use the talk page after even a single user disputes your edit. ExyleCage (talk) 04:50, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
What “pages” are we talking about? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:20, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Drawing_out_Dormant_Power

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Unlock_Potential

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku?diff=1706186&oldid=1706177

Goku's power level was not 1800, therefor this info is false information and speculation. QuakingStar (talk) 04:44, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

The edit you linked was a citation, not a power level claim. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:39, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, and he is claiming Goku became 10x stronger after drinking the ultra divine water, which he was not. He is also going around making unnessary edits, edit warring, and any edit that comes after his edits he undos them with no explanation. He seems to think only he can make edits here, then he claims he is waiting for admins to talk to but never does. QuakingStar (talk) 03:58, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Because, Neff found some sources and some other users agreed to reworded it. So that one was settled. P.S., my "unnecessary edits" you say are focusing on cleaning up older pages that haven't been edited on in years. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Nice excuse, but you don't need to add unnecessary shit to pages just because you feel like it. That's just redundant. We really needed to know Majuub was an earthling AND a human in that sentence?? No, human sufficed. You just want to be right and don't want anybody else making edits if YOU don't agree with them. You are edit warring and you are flexing like you are some sort of admin or sysop. You literally broke rules, yet you didn't even get a warning... that's hilarious. QuakingStar (talk) 04:23, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Watch the language there, buddy. ExyleCage (talk) 04:29, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

SHIT is not a bad word, nor against the rules. Neither is the word hell. Don't you come on here acting like a Sysop or an Admin either when you are neither. Mind your business and move on. QuakingStar (talk) 04:36, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Human is used for terminology now, so I'm changing every page that has Human to Earthling because that's the page that focus on the race itself. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:45, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

I got a warning from Neff for using that very word. So, yes. It IS against the rules. ExyleCage (talk) 04:59, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Link me to the rules page, where it lists the word shit as a bad word and against the rules, until then, until I see proof I will use it as I please. QuakingStar (talk) 05:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

It depends on how you use the word if it is against the rules or not, here is an example for both "You need to take your shit and shove it" is where shit would be against the rules and "Today was shit" is where it isn't against the rules. Actually ExyleCage shit isn't against the rules on the Rules page which can be found under Guidelines or on your talk page in the first message you received but it depends on how you use it if it is really against the rules I don't see a problem with Quaking calling some redundant stuff in articles shit instead of stuff.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  07:31,4/23/2018 

Recommended Videos test Edit

Hi 10X Kamehameha. I wanted to give you a quick head's up that I just posted a forum thread about a new feature test here on Dragon Ball Wiki. Let me know in that thread if you have any questions. Thanks! - Brandon Rhea@fandom(talk) 19:25, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:42, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

David Gray/Sam Majesters is James Marsters Edit

I come to you about this because you once stated that IMBd is reputable. and it lists Marsters as the voice of Zamasu and Fused Zamasu. So does Anime News Network. So has IMBD lost its reputation or it is still a valid source; that's my question? Other sources i listed are on its Zamasu's talk page.--Made up Character Wiki/Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Things I do [mod] 07:57, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

IMBD is a user-generated site like this one, so not ideal as a primary source. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

RudenessEdit

NegativeShipper was rude again this time on this http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:613839#34. He said I was young enough to question why people are needlessly mean and Sheikhtanveerahmed asked me how old are you kid... in response to my statements that GT and Super being trash are only opinions. And Negativeshipper has been rude in the past too. like in this thread http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:616539#144. Like I posted before on an archived message page, sorry if this bugs you.--Hulk10 (talk) 17:46, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Rudeness isn’t exactly a policy violation if it doesn’t hit the level of personal attack. I recommend not engaging in conversation with rude people. I didn’t see any cursing or insults. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:27, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Admin body Edit

I personally think we are understaffed, most large wikis have at least two bureaucrats and four admins active. We are a large wiki and in the top thirty for most popular, I think we need to further up our administrative body.--Neffyarious (talk) 19:33, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Who would you recommend for new admins? For mainspace, we seem to have 1 bureaucrat and 2 admins regularly active including ourselves. I’m happy to add more if we have well-suited users. Conflict resolution skills are at the top of my list for candidates. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:28, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

That's the only problem, it's difficult which users exactly. New World God, YonedgeHp and Sandubadear all have admin skills, but are admins on other DB wikis and so would probably not be able to commit to being admins here (and NWG has not edited here all that much). DragonEmeperor and Goku20 both have good admin potential, but there are a few issues with them: they don't have the best standing in our community and DragonEmeperor also still needs some growth in how he edits (users have complained several times that he undoes edits without giving reasons). From what I've seen 0551E80Y may also be a good candidate. I'd say we need more community input on new admins.--Neffyarious (talk) 10:38, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

On my part now it really isn't my fault that I am bad standing with some of the community if you look at my talk page four users have a problem with me two of which because in their opinion I impersonate admins (which could be fixed by me becoming one) and the other two because I undone their edits which were wrong like the one that made the edit about how famous Gogeta is.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  11:23,5/15/2018 


It doesn't take much for someone to become drunk with the power that they have be given and go on a bindge of being enforcement on policies far more then what is actually required. Oh, they can promise they will be good. But once they get the responsiblities, it can cause them to change their perception on things while having that lust of knowing you can stamp out any saying against you immeditalty with blocking them. It can be like ectasay, it is that easy to do.

I have seen around the wikia of admins who gone beyond the standards and even necessary procedure of enforcing rules, while being venomous about it. I know one who because of his actions has a very infamous reputation (contains strong langauge) of running his wikis, despite the high quality work he puts in on them.

My question is this. What do you have that can convince the community that they believe you will not be like him if you get these privalages? Because frankly i believe he would have been once like us non admin users here on the db wiki before he became an admin. But look what has happened to him. In my view, he is a warning of what can happen to communities that become toxicified because of too much abuse of adminstation power. 0551E80Y (talk) 11:59, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

0551E80Y I know that admin because I used to edit on the family guy wiki until he undone my edit and blocked me, and I personally don't care who in the community thinks I will or won't be like him because I know their are some that will be for me becoming an admin and some against it just because they have a problem with me undoing their edits for good reason and after 10X and Final both talked some sense into I have actually changed from the guy that users (who some of don't edit here anymore) had a problem with me don't anymore and quit a few times those problems where just misunderstandings, now the ones I have mentioned I don't know if they still edit here or not. But I can only prove people wrong or right if I become an admin and quit literally after having been wanting to, to help out with this exact problem of not enough admins and being passed over because I wasn't at the top of the list I really don't care if I become one or not anymore. If I do though I will check as many edits as I can which even goes for Dragon's edits and the ones I don't agree with or are wrong I will undo them and give them a reason (if I am not in a rush) which is all I can do. The users who edit war will have the rules mainly that one explained to them, the ones that want to be vandal's they will be either blocked or banned depending on if it was just one time or not. The other rule breakers will be treated like the ones who edit war.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  12:47,5/15/2018 


I suppose it really comes down to trust and faith. I wish you luck. 0551E80Y (talk) 13:17, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

I'm glad I'm not an admin on this wiki. Though I am one on another one. Going power crazed is unfortunate.--Hulk10 (talk) 15:00, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

I can't give a reason on every edit I work cause I do multiple pages at once. Plus, I read through the added material first before removing because most users like to either vandalize or add complete speculation. As the users that have a problem, you can read about them on Neff's talk page. Besides them, I don't really get complaints that much now. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:13, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

I have reviewed all these users and will promote 0551E80Y and YonedgeHp to admins. DragonEmperor you are almost there, but there are a couple concerns. Lack of communication including good edit summaries when undoing others’ good faith edits is one. Another is defending edits on the grounds they were made by admins in the past. Admins including me are by no means always right, and official sources trump users. This would be especially concerning if you used that argument to defend your own edits and stop using sources. I’m not saying you would do that, just that sources are needed in articles as are edit summaries and other good communication. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
When people edit war over your edits even when some was sourced, I try to play neutral cause even I'm not sure at times. But, when nobody wants to listen or follow the rules so what can you do. Also, the good faith edits don't be always removed permanently. As for communication, you can see on Neff's talk page with Rey0194 and JohnRich23. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:15, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
I also updated the admin roster by moving two of the listed active admins to inactive, and retiring one previously listed as inactive. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate the efficiency, but shouldn't we have gotten more imput - like from Bullza for example - before moving forward? Also, what about the subject of a second bureaucrat?--Neffyarious (talk) 10:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:52, May 16, 2018 (UTC)


Thanks, 10X Kamehameha, I'm honestly surprised that I was chosen to be a new admin here, even though I'm already part of the administration at the Spanish Dragon Ball Wiki, I'll be here more often to watch out. ~ Yon ~Great King Cold SDBH World Mission artworkVisit my talk page! 11:00, May 16, 2018 (UTC)


I'd said it on my talk page but i'll say it here as well. Thank you very much for promoting me. I will also do my best. 0551E80Y (talk) 11:59, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations, Aussie Boy! ~ Yon ~Great King Cold SDBH World Mission artworkVisit my talk page! 13:04, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Recommendations are always welcome from any users including admins like Bullza. Neffy you and I both recognized the new admins, and I think requiring a review from all the current admins would be too much. I’m happy to keep serving the Wiki as our local active bureaucrat, and for the number of admins and frequency of adding new ones, I don’t think another is required right now. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:32, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Seems to me that perhaps a new bureaucrat would be a good idea.--Hulk10 (talk) 01:07, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

A second bureaucrat to what end? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:18, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
No idea. Since I'm not sure what you mean by to what end.--Hulk10 (talk) 01:24, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

As I said, most larger more popular wikis have at least two bureaucrats.--Neffyarious (talk) 11:59, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Also could you remove User:SSJ4 Vegito as chat moderator, they ain't edited since 2015. Also User:Nonoitall should be listed as retired here.--Neffyarious (talk) 12:12, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Just because someone else is doing something doesn’t make it right, necessary, or even useful. I think chat moderator status is okay to keep, since the relevant policies don’t change much if at all over time, unlike article content and style. As stated on your link, bureaucrats become inactive but not retired. I couldn’t do it if I wanted to anyway. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:42, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Well as you have seen several users think a second bureaucrat would be a good idea, so it's something that needs to be acted upon. We can contact wikia to have them remove Nonoitall's user rights.--Neffyarious (talk) 20:54, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

You say we need one because other sites need one, but you haven’t given any reason why we need one. Bureaucrats just click the button to add new admins, and we don’t need a second person for the volume of new admin promotions we need and have here. The other user didn’t know why hey thought we needed a second bureaucrat. Since I’ve told you why one is plenty for us right now, and no one else has given any reasons why we would need two, we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:36, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

We are voting on this, it's not your decision alone 10X, it's up to the community. As for reasons, what if you disappear? I've seen bureaucrats disappear without warning. What if there's a decision that should be made by more than one Bureaucrat? Promoting new admins is not all a bureaucrat should do, they should be the ones who update policies and rules as well.--Neffyarious (talk) 22:46, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat then? DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:11, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Good idea DragonEmperor.--Hulk10 (talk) 23:49, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

We don’t decide things by voting, we use discussion and consensus. That means someone actually needs a reason to do something, including adding admins, rollback, chat mods, buteaucrat, etc. I’m patiently awaiting someone to give a reason for the second bureaucrat.
Neff, Wikis don’t work on voting, they work on civil discussion and consensus. I’m surprised you don’t know that as an admin on a Wiki. If bureaucrats disappear, staff can appoint a new bureaucrat at that time. Rules here are determined by civil discussion and community consensus. Admins or bureaucrats have permission to edit the policies, but should not be tyrannically mandating policies without the community agreeing. While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more. Like admins, they are leaders here and help resolve conflicts, drive Wiki style, and article formatting, as well as align the site with Wikia technology advancements. None of this is done alone. The differentiator of a bureaucrat, that is what they can do that admins cannot, is promote new admins. This is in additional to everything the other admins and users do too.
So by all means, drive policy change through civil discussions and community consensus. Recommend new admins. Be a great editor and suggest and implement new formatting options in articles. Actively participate in the social aspects of the Wiki. All of those things can be done as an admin, and most by any user. But the button you would gain by having bureaucrat rights is not something we need a second person for right now. In the future you are a candidate for it, but comments about voting here as a substitute for discussions and consensus, and about admins making policies rather than facilitating and implementing them, make me hesitate. If you want to be a bureaucrat here, those are the areas to focus on—everything else I think you are good. And you don’t need to beat around the bush, you can just ask, either here or via email. Think about how you would shape the Wiki as a bureaucrat rather than just saying we need to vote on having two. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:11, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

Plenty of wikis work on voting, ours is about community consensus (which is basically voting, just with discussion). You talk about us running on a community consensus and yet you immediately put your foot down and say "we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now" and you promote two new admins near immediately even though only two users have agreed that they are the right ones for the job (not that I don't appreciate the efficiency).

I already gave you what I think is reason enough, but if you need more; bureaucrats hold the most power on the wiki and I don't think that one person alone should have this, it should be more balanced. You say that the only difference between an admin and a bureaucrat is making new admins, but that's not true, in all honesty the bureaucrat is the one who gets the final say in things. I was discussing with a member of wiki's vanguard team a while back about the best way a wiki should be run and they suggested that a wiki should actually have three bureaucrats. I never said I wanted to be the second bureaucrat, I just said I think we should have a second one, certainly I'm a candidate but then there's also Bullza - who may well be better suited for the job than me.--Neffyarious (talk) 10:47, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

We could probably do with more than what we have. I was made a Mod due to their being a lack of them in the first place and since that time Final Chidori has since become inactive so it's just back to where we started.
Dragon Emperor is the most active of us all and he does a good job at finding things and updating pages and checking most people's edits so he'd probably be an ideal Mod. The only concern there is that I think he could be a bit quick to block people. So he'd need to be fair for that and also the way he goes about undoing people's edits which can lead to edit warring, so he'd need to explain things a bit better.
As for the other Bureaucrat, I see where the idea is coming from. Though I don't think there's been a problem up to yet, I do think it would be a good safeguard to have another one just encase. It's not like everything would suddenly change around here, it'd be the same just with a bit more reassurance.Bullza (talk) 13:09, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

Neffyarious, I like your point about balance with multiple bureaucrats rather than one, but your comment about some random unidentified user saying three is good does not add to your argument. Also, you said I said the only difference between a bureaucrat and an admin is the button to promote to admin, but that's wrong. That's the only functional difference. I said, "While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more." Then I went on to describe the role, and yes all of the rest of it is possible as an admin. Ideally positive influence on a Wiki (and everywhere else in the world) is achieved by ideas and actions rather than the power to demote and block. In 6 years as a bureaucrat here, I have only ever threatened to demote an admin once, and never actually had to do so (other than voluntarily and admin retirements). Promoting new admins is one of the most important parts of being a bureaucrat, and I thoroughly reviewed all the candidates that made sense before the last two promotions were made. In honesty only time will time if people with good records and potential will live up to it, but YonedgeHp and 0551E80Y have earned their shots. Your argument swings back and forth between saying a bureaucrat should do more and saying I do too much on my own, and it just doesn't add up. If sometimes I do too much and other times not enough, I'm probably right about where I should be ("you can't make all the people happy all the time"). Also, consensus is not voting with discussion, it is the process of presenting points of view to arrive at a solution everyone can stand behind. Voting means 49% of people may be unhappy and not understand why the decision was made. Consensus takes substantially longer, but involves everyone to a greater extent, and leaves everyone happier with a higher quality resolution.

Bullza, I mostly agree with your comments on Dragon Emperor, and wrote my own earlier in this thread. I think he'll definitely get there in time. I'd like to see him communicate a little more in addition to what you said. While I don't find your argument for another bureaucrat completely compelling (since Wikia could always appoint a new new bureaucrat if I suddenly and unexpectedly disappeared after now 8 years of regular activity), I do trust in the fact that both you and Neffyarious feel it's the right thing to do. After due consideration of all community members on this Wiki, Bullza you are best suited to become the second bureaucrat. This is based on your outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills. Never forget there is always room to keep growing in all these areas. I am promoting you to bureaucrat effective immediately. Congratulations and please let me know if you have any questions. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:04, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

  • You just promoted a new bureaucrat with little input from any users? You made the decision on who it would be completely alone, despite the apparent community consensus we need, and quickly, before anyone could even react. Really? What?--Neffyarious (talk) 23:20, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
Nope, that's all wrong. We've been discussing this for 5 days, and many of our most active users, and all the active admins have contributed to this discussion. While bureaucrats make the final decision on promotions, everyone's input was considered, including 4 years of observing Bullza and 5 years of observing you, the only active admins who have more than a couple days of experience as an admin. So after years of observations, and input from the community and all active admins, Bullza's outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills gave him an edge over you in this case. While the decision to appoint a second bureaucrat, spear-headed by you, was made in less than a week, the preference of candidates was years in the making. This was a well-reasoned, and long-considered decision. If you would like specific examples of the comparison, I can provide that for you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:00, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

No. You made the final decision without enough community input, it should have been up to the greater community to decide the second bureaucrat, not you alone.--Neffyarious (talk) 00:15, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

No. The only thing I determined was who of the two of you was better suited. I was best suited to do so, after over 4 years of observation and over 6 years doing the task myself. You are mad you didn’t get picked. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X