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== My Edit ==
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==New Dragon Ball movie==
Ummm...the image of Bulma in her profile was from an episode in the Frieza Saga not the Namek Saga, so my edit wasn't vandalism. It was more accurate. Just putting that out there ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 20:50, December 2, 2009 (UTC))
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Hello! Do you think we could add a link to the new [[Dragon Ball 20th Movie Commemoration Project]] in the local nav? I think it'd be good because then it's easier for users to find. Let me know what you think![[User:Witnessme|Witnessme]] ([[User talk:Witnessme|talk]]) 19:49, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Who said it was vandalism? I deleted it for two reasons. First, you continuously added tons of line breaks, distorting the entire article format. Second, your edit was utterly meaningless. Images in the infobox do not have captions. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:40, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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:What do you mean by local nav? Also, your user name is great! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:47, March 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
Tons of line breaks? I replaced the word Namek with "the Frieza". PrinceZarbon has since changed it by taking away the "the". How is typing simple words adding a lot of line breaks? I still don't even know what line breaks are and the Manual of Style page didn't help explain what they are. It simply said not to use them. Also id what you are saying is true about imfobox images then why does every other article have captions in thier infoboxes such as Goku, Vegetta, etc. Are you sure your not assuming information? ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 04:48, December 3, 2009 (UTC))
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Sorry that it took me so long to respond! What I meant was the navigation tabs at the top of the wiki. And thanks! I really loved that movie. [[User:Witnessme|Witnessme]] ([[User talk:Witnessme|talk]]) 21:23, June 11, 2018 (UTC)
   
:You are wrong, the image in the infobox of the Goku article does not have a caption, which makes sense since the captions in images in infoboxes are not displayed. This is what line breaks are:
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Dear 10xKamehameha
   
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Hope all is well, I was reading over the Super Sayain 4 wiki and noticed it doesn't entail the Ozaru multiplication factor. It's stated Golden Great Ape is 10x stronger SSJ3, and SSJ4 is the culmination of Golden Great Ape and another x10 multiplyer. This detail should be clarified for the community and give better insight into the true scale of the conflicts portrayed in Dragon Ball GT. I request that this edit is changed and all is made well and known regarding the Super Sayain 4 transfirmation defintiely 20x stronger than Super Sayain 3 in Dragon Ball GT wikia.Thank You.
   
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[[User:Josexbanner|Josexbanner]] ([[User talk:Josexbanner|talk]]) 22:49, March 24, 2018 (UTC) Jose Banner
   
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Dragon Ball Enthusiast
   
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Thank You
   
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:You can edit articles when there is something you want to change. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:00, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
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==Blocking==
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There have been a couple of users who have been uploading images that do not belong on this wiki, previously I asked that some would kindly stop uploading these images. This newest [[http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Shanecoolhip#Uploading%7Cuser]] has been warned once already and has proceeded to upload pornographic images onto this wiki I ask you to please do something and have these images deleted.--[[User:Tuxedo12|Tuxedo12]] ([[User talk:Tuxedo12|talk]]) 01:59, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:It is easily seen how detrimental adding these all over articles is. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:56, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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:The user has been blocked and all his uploads have been deleted. Thanks for the heads up. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:19, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
Ok fine I was wrong. The other articles do not have captions. So then shouldn't the other articles not have theses captions like the Bulma article? Maybe you should remove it. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 05:38, December 3, 2009 (UTC))
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== DragonEmeperor is edit warring and adding false information to pages. ==
   
== SSJ3 Goku & Ultimate Gohan ==
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Can you give him a warning or something? [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:03, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
Hi, long time no see. I think I found some contradictions that might support Goku as stronger than Ultimate Gohan. PrinceZarbon warned me not to change the pages if you are going to insert some power level comparisons, but I was thinking more on the lines of a personal preference section to put in the Goku and Gohan articles on the debate between who is stronger. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I saw a paragraph on this argument on the Gohan article page, underneath the Ultimate form headline. DO you think I should add some thing like that to the Goku page? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 23:54, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:No, please do not add power comparisons to pages. Take any discussions about them to the power comparison forum page. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:41, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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I explained to him that Goku's potential was his Great Ape power in Dragon Ball but QuakingStar is too focused on the power level. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 02:08, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
I understand, but can I put it as a implication, just like it did on the Gohan page? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 19:40, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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No, I am focused on the fact you are adding false info to an article and you didn't bother to go to the talk page first and see why you were wrong. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:11, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Nothing on the pages should be solely "implied", please only facts. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:00, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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Your the one that didn't want to wait until an admin appear. The page has to stay the same until an admin decides it should stay or not. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 02:13, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
I do have evidence supporting Goku as stronger. Should I put it then? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 20:46, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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That is why I am waiting now. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:15, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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:If the information is false, you really don't need an admin to say you can remove it. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 03:21, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Why don't you run it by Nonoitall first. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:42, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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:We only need one to settle the argument or the edit war won't end. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:14, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
OK, thanks for your help. Also, if you don't want power level comparisons, there is a section under the Gohan article doing this. It is in the trivial part and in the Ultimate Gohan section. SSJ2AJB and Nonoitall don't want me to change it, so should we leave the paragraphs there? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 06:36, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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:To be fair, DragonEmeperor was the one ACTUALLY doing what the wiki has us do. If anything, Quaking, you were the one edit warring. And, regardless of whether or not the information is "valid", as you put it, you still have to use the talk page after even a single user disputes your edit. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:50, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:If Nonoitall says leave it as is, then do so. He's the boss, so to speak. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:15, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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:What “pages” are we talking about? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:20, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
Sorry to kind of butt into the conversation, but I want to make sure there's no misunderstanding here. All I said was that the current consensus reached on the [[Talk:Gohan|talk page]] was that the information on the article was accurate and noteworthy. As I've suggested numerous times from the get-go, if anyone has further information on the issue from an authoritative source, by all means post it on the article's talk page. Don't just run around telling people that you have found "contradictions" or "evidence" without sharing anything and then imply that I or some other admin have overridden your right to present your case.
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Drawing_out_Dormant_Power http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Drawing_out_Dormant_Power]
   
I'm not here to be a dictator and (sorry to contradict you 10X Kamehameha) I am not 'the boss'. The consensus of the community is what should guide our decision-making, not my word or any other individual's. SaiyanZ, as I have repeatedly requested, if you have information to share, please share it. -- {{User:Nonoitall/sig}} 08:21, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Unlock_Potential http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Unlock_Potential]
   
Ok then --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 22:07, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku?diff=1706186&oldid=1706177 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku?diff=1706186&oldid=1706177]
   
== Your opinion ==
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Goku's power level was not 1800, therefor this info is false information and speculation. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 04:44, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
I need your feedback here for the [[Category talk:Immortals|Immortals]] category. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 14:50, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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:The edit you linked was a citation, not a power level claim. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:39, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Hello. ==
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Yes, and he is claiming Goku became 10x stronger after drinking the ultra divine water, which he was not. He is also going around making unnessary edits, edit warring, and any edit that comes after his edits he undos them with no explanation. He seems to think only he can make edits here, then he claims he is waiting for admins to talk to but never does. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 03:58, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
Hi thanks for the help...it's my first time in a wikia page and I might have some problems with editing the pages...anyway.Are you a moderator here? {{unsigned|Android18Greece}}
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:Because, Neff found some sources and some other users agreed to reworded it. So that one was settled. P.S., my "unnecessary edits" you say are focusing on cleaning up older pages that haven't been edited on in years. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Yup, let me know if you need anything. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 08:37, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
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Nice excuse, but you don't need to add unnecessary shit to pages just because you feel like it. That's just redundant. We really needed to know Majuub was an earthling AND a human in that sentence?? No, human sufficed. You just want to be right and don't want anybody else making edits if YOU don't agree with them. You are edit warring and you are flexing like you are some sort of admin or sysop. You literally broke rules, yet you didn't even get a warning... that's hilarious. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 04:23, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Broly ==
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Watch the language there, buddy. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:29, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
I am sorry to bother you but it is stated in Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan that when he was an infant he transformed into a Super Saiyan when Frieza destroyed the Saiyans home planet. {{unsigned|SuperSaiyan3Broly}}
 
   
:Alright, why don't you get a reference and add it to the article's body then. Also, please sign your posts. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 18:53, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
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SHIT is not a bad word, nor against the rules. Neither is the word hell. Don't you come on here acting like a Sysop or an Admin either when you are neither. Mind your business and move on. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 04:36, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Uub; Buu link ==
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[[Human]] is used for terminology now, so I'm changing every page that has Human to Earthling because that's the page that focus on the race itself. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:45, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
Sigh, here we go again. Why did you undo my edit on the Uub article? "Fat Boo" sounds weird and inconsistent with the names of the characters. He is Majin Buu so why not have the link say "Majin Buu"? not "Fat Boo" which sounds more Japanese and incorrect.
 
([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 00:17, December 7, 2009 (UTC))
 
   
:It's the same deal as last time- your edit was meaningless, and it added line breaks, meaning the only result of your edit was making the article worse. The link was to a redirect, and was not something that physically appeared on the article, just in the background code, so it was the same either way. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:01, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
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I got a warning from Neff for using that very word. So, yes. It IS against the rules. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:59, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
Fine. I guess my edits are always wrong from now on. "Fat Boo" it is! Sorry for the trouble. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]])
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Link me to the rules page, where it lists the word shit as a bad word and against the rules, until then, until I see proof I will use it as I please. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 05:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
Also for the Dragon Box article its ok I guess. Also on the Funimation Dragon Box article there is a quality difference image. Just thought you should know since you said you don't add quality comparisons. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 02:03, December 7, 2009 (UTC))
 
   
:You shouldn't get so down on yourself, you're just still learning the proper editing format, which is alright. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:55, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
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It depends on how you use the word if it is against the rules or not, here is an example for both "You need to take your shit and shove it" is where shit would be against the rules and "Today was shit" is where it isn't against the rules. Actually ExyleCage shit isn't against the rules on the Rules page which can be found under Guidelines or on your talk page in the first message you received but it depends on how you use it if it is really against the rules I don't see a problem with Quaking calling some redundant stuff in articles shit instead of stuff. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|07:31,4/23/2018}}
   
== Proposed page deletion ==
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== Recommended Videos test ==
   
10X Kamehameha, I have a doubt. I noticed [[User:Goku Hates Piccolo|Goku Hates Piccolo]] creating a page, which, not only is badly written, it also has nothing to do with this wiki and has a video on it. Since I think that videos are forbidden in this wiki, I propose the mentioned's page deletion. Here's the page I'm talking about: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku_doesnt_know_what_a_baby_is . The article has already been deleted by [[User:SSJ2AJB|SSJ2AJB]]. Sorry for the troubling I may have caused. Anyways, since we're on this situation, I must ask. If I see a video on some page, should I just go and delete it or talk with moderators/administrators first? [[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]][[User:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue">Vegeta - San</font>]][[User talk:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Talk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Contrib</font>]][[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]] 22:41, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
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Hi 10X Kamehameha. I wanted to give you a quick head's up that I just posted a [[Thread:615874|forum thread about a new feature test]] here on Dragon Ball Wiki. Let me know in that thread if you have any questions. Thanks! - [[User:Brandon Rhea|<font color="#1A2BBB">'''Brandon Rhea'''</font>]]<staff /><sup>[[User talk:Brandon Rhea|<font color="#1A2BBB">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 19:25, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
:You haven't caused any trouble, thank you for bringing this up, though it looks like the page is presently deleted. Videos are not allowed in articles, so if you see one then definitely take it down, no need to ask for perimission. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:10, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
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:Got it, thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:42, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Saiyan Hybrids ==
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== David Gray/Sam Majesters is James Marsters ==
   
Almost half the section on Hybrids on the [[Saiyans]] Page is speculation on whether or not they have a greater potential. I don't see why that last part was deleted while the rest was left alone?
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[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU8Mg8nU8AEBB9X.jpg I come] to you about this because you once stated [http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Piccolo#Piccolo_Jr. that] IMBd is reputable. [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ and] it lists Marsters as the voice of Zamasu and Fused Zamasu. So [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=70394 does] Anime News Network. So has IMBD lost its reputation or it is still a valid source; that's my question? Other sources i listed are on its Zamasu's talk page.--Made up Character Wiki/Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki Admin [[User talk:Staff Sergeant Jack Jackson|Jack Jackson]] [[Special:Contributions/Staff Sergeant Jack Jackson|Things I do]] <small>[mod]</small> 07:57, May 1, 2018 (UTC)
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 21:28, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:The bit about Yamcha and Krillin's rate of aging is speculation. Yamcha continued to train later in life. Maybe he dyed his hair too, who knows? Maybe Krillin's genes lead to an older look at a younger age. Without this knowledge, guessing at what age their bodies act like (if that is even something we can talk about) is pointless. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:00, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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:IMBD is a user-generated site like this one, so not ideal as a primary source. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)
   
Well then that entire paragraph is pure speculation and need to be removed
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==Rudeness==
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 22:44, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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NegativeShipper was rude again this time on this [//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:613839#34 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:613839#34]. He said I was young enough to question why people are needlessly mean and Sheikhtanveerahmed asked me how old are you kid... in response to my statements that GT and Super being trash are only opinions. And Negativeshipper has been rude in the past too. like in this thread [//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:616539#144 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:616539#144]. Like I posted before on an archived message page, sorry if this bugs you.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 17:46, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
   
:It is not speculation to state observed facts. What you said ''was'' speculation because you are guessing at some sort of unquantifiable, unknowable age quality that is never directly observed, at least not in the example which comprised your edit. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:22, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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:Rudeness isn’t exactly a policy violation if it doesn’t hit the level of personal attack. I recommend not engaging in conversation with rude people. I didn’t see any cursing or insults. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:27, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
The observed fact was Krillin aged while Yamcha did not
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== Admin body ==
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 23:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
And most of that entire section is not observed fact, It's speculation. There is nothing factual about stating that Yamcha and Tien '''might''' not age because people with higher powerelevels '''might''' age slower than regular people. My edits were not adding any more speculation than was already there, merely providing more elaboration on what was already speculated.
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I personally think we are understaffed, most large wikis have at least two bureaucrats and four admins active. We are a large wiki and in the top thirty for most popular, I think we need to further up our administrative body.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 19:33, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 23:44, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:If there is speculation on a page, that is by no means a justification for adding more. I'll take a look at the article. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:19, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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:Who would you recommend for new admins? For mainspace, we seem to have 1 bureaucrat and 2 admins regularly active including ourselves. I’m happy to add more if we have well-suited users. Conflict resolution skills are at the top of my list for candidates. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:28, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
I removed the information for the same reason the previous information was removed. It was speculation on whether or not the Hybrids have a naturally greater power potential than pure blood saiyans.
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That's the only problem, it's difficult which users exactly. [[User:New World God|New World God]], [[User:YonedgeHp|YonedgeHp]] and [[User:Sandubadear|Sandubadear]] all have admin skills, but are admins on other DB wikis and so would probably not be able to commit to being admins here (and NWG has not edited here all that much). [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] and [[User:Goku20|Goku20]] both have good admin potential, but there are a few issues with them: they don't have the best standing in our community and DragonEmeperor also still needs some growth in how he edits (users have complained several times that he undoes edits without giving reasons). From what I've seen [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y ]] may also be a good candidate. I'd say we need more community input on new admins.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:38, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 03:54, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:From what I saw you removed many ''observed facts'', such as how Goten and Trunks became Super Saiyans at such a young age. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:22, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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On my part now it really isn't my fault that I am bad standing with some of the community if you look at my talk page four users have a problem with me two of which because in their opinion I impersonate admins (which could be fixed by me becoming one) and the other two because I undone their edits which were wrong like the one that made the edit about how famous Gogeta is. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|11:23,5/15/2018}}
   
== lol new ==
 
   
is this how u reply to messages? {{unsigned|LiberatorReborn}}
 
   
:Yup, just remember to sign your posts so I can tell it's from you. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:46, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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It doesn't take much for someone to become drunk with the power that they have be given and go on a bindge of being enforcement on policies far more then what is actually required. Oh, they can promise they will be good. But once they get the responsiblities, it can cause them to change their perception on things while having that lust of knowing you can stamp out any saying against you immeditalty with blocking them. It can be like ectasay, it is that easy to do.
   
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I have seen around the wikia of admins who gone beyond the standards and even necessary procedure of enforcing rules, while being venomous about it. I know [http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Buckimion one] who because of his [http://americandad.wikia.com/wiki/Special:BlockList actions] has a very [http://simpsonstappedout.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:39765 infamous] [http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?98502-Family-Guy-general-discussion-upcoming-episode-thread/page16 reputation ] (contains strong langauge) of running his wikis, despite the high quality work he puts in on them.
   
== Super Saiyan Turles ==
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My question is this. What do you have that can convince the community that they believe you will not be like him if you get these privalages? Because frankly i believe he would have been once like us non admin users here on the db wiki before he became an admin. But look what has happened to him. In my view, he is a warning of what can happen to communities that become toxicified because of too much abuse of adminstation power. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 11:59, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
Is it true that Turles came very close to destroying the earth and was close to becoming a Super Saiyan if he kept on eating more fruit from the tree of might and used his rage and hatered towards Goku to acheive the form? I am just asking this question because i heard that if Turles were to survive Goku's second spirit bomb and not be killed by him, meant that he could of had a chance to eat a few more fruits from the tree of might to increase his power level more higher and then unleash his rage as a final ingrdient to gain the Super Saiyan form. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.4.55|96.232.4.55]] 20:09, December 11, 2009 (UTC)).
 
:Maybe, or maybe not. This is all speculation, so whether or not it's true is really up in the air. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:09, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
== What If Super Saiyans ==
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0551E80Y I know that admin because I used to edit on the family guy wiki until he undone my edit and blocked me, and I personally don't care who in the community thinks I will or won't be like him because I know their are some that will be for me becoming an admin and some against it just because they have a problem with me undoing their edits for good reason and after 10X and Final both talked some sense into I have actually changed from the guy that users (who some of don't edit here anymore) had a problem with me don't anymore and quit a few times those problems where just misunderstandings, now the ones I have mentioned I don't know if they still edit here or not. But I can only prove people wrong or right if I become an admin and quit literally after having been wanting to, to help out with this exact problem of not enough admins and being passed over because I wasn't at the top of the list I really don't care if I become one or not anymore. If I do though I will check as many edits as I can which even goes for Dragon's edits and the ones I don't agree with or are wrong I will undo them and give them a reason (if I am not in a rush) which is all I can do. The users who edit war will have the rules mainly that one explained to them, the ones that want to be vandal's they will be either blocked or banned depending on if it was just one time or not. The other rule breakers will be treated like the ones who edit war. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|12:47,5/15/2018}}
Do you think in future Dragonball z games will have what if Super Saiyan forms for saiyans that never reached any super saiyan forms at all in the series, such as Bardock, Radtiz, Nappa, Turles, King Vegeta, Paragus, Tora, Fasha, Borgos, Shugesh and Tarble? The reason why i am asking this question is because, since Dragonball raging blast features What If Super Saiyan 3 forms for Broly and Vegeta even though they never reached Super Saiyan 3 in the series, dose this mean that when they make more future dragonball z games they are going to feature more What if Super Saiyan forms for the other Saiyans that never reached any Super Saiyan forms such as the ones i listed above. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.4.55|96.232.4.55]] 22:45, December 11, 2009 (UTC)).
 
:I'm a fan of the Super Saiyan transformations, so I hope so, but probably not. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:04, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
== Radtiz and Nappa going Super Saiyan ==
 
If Radtiz and Nappa weren't killed very early in the Dragonball z series and lived longer do you think they would be able to reach Super Saiyan? Can you please describe to me or at least supply some dragonball af pictures of Radtiz and Nappa as Super Saiyans so that way i can know how they would like like if they were to ever become Super Saiyans. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.4.55|96.232.4.55]] 00:49, December 12, 2009 (UTC)).
 
   
:I want to start by specifying that this site does not recognize Dragon Ball AF as official material, and we do not allow any Dragon Ball fan fiction or fan art in articles. However, on user's user pages, things like fan art and personal opinions are okay. That being said, I see no reason not to post the images you are requesting, though, once again, they are unofficial, and they are fan art. Enjoy the pics! : ) {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 09:18, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
[[Image:Super_Saiyan_Raditz_by_dbzataricommunity.jpg|125px|Fan art of Super Saiyan Raditz.]][[image:SSNappa.png|175px|right|Fan art of Super Saiyan Nappa.]]
 
   
Sorry for "butting" in the conversation, but there's an interesting thing about Nappa "going" Super Saiyan in Budokai Tenkaichi 3. In Duel mode, if you wait for a while (without touching any button), Nappa will ask this to Vegeta: "Hey uh... Think if I went Super Saiyan, my goatee would grow?". What do I want to get with this? Simple. Toriyama created Nappa and Raditz in a time were he didn't even had thought about the Super Saiyan concept he would later use. [[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]][[User:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue">Vegeta - San</font>]][[User talk:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Talk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Contrib</font>]][[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]] 12:32, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
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I suppose it really comes down to trust and faith. I wish you luck. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 13:17, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
:How come Radtiz and Nappa can't reach Super Saiyan in the series? Do you think Radtiz and Nappa will ever reach Super Saiyan at all in there lifetime? ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.149.34|96.232.149.34]] 15:44, December 12, 2009 (UTC)).
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I'm glad I'm not an admin on this wiki. Though I am one on another one. Going power crazed is unfortunate.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 15:00, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
...They died. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 16:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
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I can't give a reason on every edit I work cause I do multiple pages at once. Plus, I read through the added material first before removing because most users like to either vandalize or add complete speculation. As the users that have a problem, you can read about them on Neff's talk page. Besides them, I don't really get complaints that much now. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 18:13, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
HA [[User:Beefy1223|Beefy1223]] 17:06, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
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:I have reviewed all these users and will promote 0551E80Y and YonedgeHp to admins. DragonEmperor you are almost there, but there are a couple concerns. Lack of communication including good edit summaries when undoing others’ good faith edits is one. Another is defending edits on the grounds they were made by admins in the past. Admins including me are by no means always right, and official sources trump users. This would be especially concerning if you used that argument to defend your own edits and stop using sources. I’m not saying you would do that, just that sources are needed in articles as are edit summaries and other good communication. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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::When people edit war over your edits even when some was sourced, I try to play neutral cause even I'm not sure at times. But, when nobody wants to listen or follow the rules so what can you do. Also, the good faith edits don't be always removed permanently. As for communication, you can see on Neff's talk page with Rey0194 and JohnRich23. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 01:15, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Goku 1 ==
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::I also updated the admin roster by moving two of the listed active admins to inactive, and retiring one previously listed as inactive. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
Please delete the Goku 1 page.
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I appreciate the efficiency, but shouldn't we have gotten more imput - like from Bullza for example - before moving forward? Also, what about the subject of a second bureaucrat?--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
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:Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 18:52, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Why did you remove.... ==
 
   
I understand the strongest incarnation of Buu part, but why the Goku can be considered the one who killed Majin Buu part? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 01:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks, 10X Kamehameha, I'm honestly surprised that I was chosen to be a new admin here, even though I'm already part of the administration at the Spanish Dragon Ball Wiki, I'll be here more often to watch out.
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{{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 11:00, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
Sorry if this puts you in a difficult position, but have I come off as annoying recently? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 01:50, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:No, you're not annoying at all, don't worry about it. It's already on the Goku page that Goku kills kid Buu. Majin Buu never dies, as he ends up permanently merging with Uub. I don't know what you mean by Goku killing Majin Buu, but it doesn't seem to make sense. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:24, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
Oh, ok, I didn't see that :P --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 00:27, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
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I'd said it on my talk page but i'll say it here as well. Thank you very much for promoting me. I will also do my best. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 11:59, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
I meant Kid Buu sorry --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
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Congratulations, Aussie Boy! {{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 13:04, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Re: Hey==
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:Recommendations are always welcome from any users including admins like Bullza. Neffy you and I both recognized the new admins, and I think requiring a review from all the current admins would be too much. I’m happy to keep serving the Wiki as our local active bureaucrat, and for the number of admins and frequency of adding new ones, I don’t think another is required right now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:32, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
Hey, 10X Kamehameha. The reason I protected my talk page is that some unregistered user kept vandalizing it along with a few other talk pages a few weeks ago. He kept abusing multiple accounts and I've had to block him about five times. It was really annoying. I was so busy with everything else is that I forgot about unprotecting my talk page. I'll stop the talk page protection.
 
   
About the duplicate image on the Golden Great Ape page, sorry that I didn't take long enough look to remeber the original image. Since it's hard looking for the original image, you think either of us should restore the duplicate so the original image would pop back up? Then, once we use the original for the Golden Great Ape page, we can delete the duplicate image. {{User:SSJ2AJB/sig}}
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Seems to me that perhaps a new bureaucrat would be a good idea.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 01:07, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Yah sure I'll try that. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:39, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
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:A second bureaucrat to what end? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:18, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
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::No idea. Since I'm not sure what you mean by to what end.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 01:24, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
==Super Saiyan 2 Goku==
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As I said, most larger more popular wikis have at least two bureaucrats.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:59, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
Was it possible for Goku to reach Super Saiyan 2 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber while training with Gohan in the Cell Saga. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.154.18|96.232.154.18]] 02:34, December 19, 2009 (UTC)).
 
   
:Maybe, it's a little ambiguous. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:52, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
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Also could you remove [[User:SSJ4 Vegito]] as chat moderator, they ain't edited since 2015. Also [[User:Nonoitall]] should be listed as retired [[Dragon Ball Wiki:Administrators|here]].--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 12:12, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
According to the Daizenshuu it states that Goku could of reached Super Saiyan 2 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber while training with Gohan if he trained hard enough, but chose to focus more on Gohan by training him greatly to the point where he could go Super Saiyan 2 himself. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.154.18|96.232.154.18]] 03:22, December 19, 2009 (UTC)).
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:Just because someone else is doing something doesn’t make it right, necessary, or even useful. I think chat moderator status is okay to keep, since the relevant policies don’t change much if at all over time, unlike article content and style. As stated on your link, bureaucrats become inactive but not retired. I couldn’t do it if I wanted to anyway. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:42, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Then that must be what they think is the case. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:38, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
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Well as you have seen several users think a second bureaucrat would be a good idea, so it's something that needs to be acted upon. We can contact wikia to have them remove Nonoitall's user rights.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 20:54, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
So since that might be the case, care to feel free to add this to the trivia of the Super Saiyan 2 article? ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.146.57|96.232.146.57]] 15:00, December 19, 2009 (UTC)).
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:You say we need one because other sites need one, but you haven’t given any reason why we need one. Bureaucrats just click the button to add new admins, and we don’t need a second person for the volume of new admin promotions we need and have here. The other user didn’t know why hey thought we needed a second bureaucrat. Since I’ve told you why one is plenty for us right now, and no one else has given any reasons why we would need two, we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:36, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:No, do not add speculation or thinks that "might" be true to articles. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:10, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
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We are voting on this, it's not your decision alone 10X, it's up to the community. As for reasons, what if you disappear? I've seen bureaucrats disappear without warning. What if there's a decision that should be made by more than one Bureaucrat? Promoting new admins is not all a bureaucrat should do, they should be the ones who update policies and rules as well.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 22:46, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== I made a page! ==
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Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat then? [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 23:11, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
I'm the guy who you told to make a page a month back, and look! I have made a page! I pose on your page now! *poses* Recoome shall spread DBZ to the world! EruditeRecoome Out!
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Good idea DragonEmperor.--[[User:Hulk10|Hulk10]] ([[User talk:Hulk10|talk]]) 23:49, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== FS and GNU? ==
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:We don’t decide things by voting, we use discussion and consensus. That means someone actually needs a reason to do something, including adding admins, rollback, chat mods, buteaucrat, etc. I’m patiently awaiting someone to give a reason for the second bureaucrat.
   
Hey I talked to PrinceZarbon about the FS and GNU sections on the menu and he has no idea how it got there. He wanted me to alert other admins so that it could be fixed back to the way it was. [[User:The Original Super Sayain|The Original Super Sayain]] 19:32, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
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:Neff, Wikis don’t work on voting, they work on civil discussion and consensus. I’m surprised you don’t know that as an admin on a Wiki. If bureaucrats disappear, staff can appoint a new bureaucrat at that time. Rules here are determined by civil discussion and community consensus. Admins or bureaucrats have permission to edit the policies, but should not be tyrannically mandating policies without the community agreeing. While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more. Like admins, they are leaders here and help resolve conflicts, drive Wiki style, and article formatting, as well as align the site with Wikia technology advancements. None of this is done alone. The differentiator of a bureaucrat, that is what they can do that admins cannot, is promote new admins. This is in additional to everything the other admins and users do too.
   
== Dropping by ==
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:So by all means, drive policy change through civil discussions and community consensus. Recommend new admins. Be a great editor and suggest and implement new formatting options in articles. Actively participate in the social aspects of the Wiki. All of those things can be done as an admin, and most by any user. But the button you would gain by having bureaucrat rights is not something we need a second person for right now. In the future you are a candidate for it, but comments about voting here as a substitute for discussions and consensus, and about admins making policies rather than facilitating and implementing them, make me hesitate. If you want to be a bureaucrat here, those are the areas to focus on—everything else I think you are good. And you don’t need to beat around the bush, you can just ask, either here or via email. Think about how you would shape the Wiki as a bureaucrat rather than just saying we need to vote on having two. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:11, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
How are you 10X Kamehameha? I just wanted to drop in and see how things are going. I should be more actively on the Wiki again by the start of January, I'm looking forward to having time once again. Talk to you later, Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, whatever it is you'd prefer haha. {{User:SSJGoku93/sig}} 01:36, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Plenty of wikis work on voting, ours is about community consensus (which is basically voting, just with discussion). You talk about us running on a community consensus and yet you immediately put your foot down and say "we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now" and you promote two new admins near immediately even though only two users have agreed that they are the right ones for the job (not that I don't appreciate the efficiency).
   
:Thanks dude, have a good one. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:50, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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I already gave you what I think is reason enough, but if you need more; bureaucrats hold the most power on the wiki and I don't think that one person alone should have this, it should be more balanced. You say that the only difference between an admin and a bureaucrat is making new admins, but that's not true, in all honesty the bureaucrat is the one who gets the final say in things. I was discussing with a member of wiki's vanguard team a while back about the best way a wiki should be run and they suggested that a wiki should actually have three bureaucrats. I never said I wanted to be the second bureaucrat, I just said I think we should have a second one, certainly I'm a candidate but then there's also Bullza - who may well be better suited for the job than me.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:47, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Template ==
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:We could probably do with more than what we have. I was made a Mod due to their being a lack of them in the first place and since that time Final Chidori has since become inactive so it's just back to where we started.
   
Yeah, Zarbon said i could --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 04:33, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:Dragon Emperor is the most active of us all and he does a good job at finding things and updating pages and checking most people's edits so he'd probably be an ideal Mod. The only concern there is that I think he could be a bit quick to block people. So he'd need to be fair for that and also the way he goes about undoing people's edits which can lead to edit warring, so he'd need to explain things a bit better.
   
:I can't find that on his or your talk page, could you tell me where he said that? I'll re-add the template back if you can provide proof. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:36, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:As for the other Bureaucrat, I see where the idea is coming from. Though I don't think there's been a problem up to yet, I do think it would be a good safeguard to have another one just encase. It's not like everything would suddenly change around here, it'd be the same just with a bit more reassurance.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 13:09, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Additionally, do not call users idiots. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:37, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Neffyarious, I like your point about balance with multiple bureaucrats rather than one, but your comment about some random unidentified user saying three is good does not add to your argument. Also, you said I said the only '''difference''' between a bureaucrat and an admin is the button to promote to admin, but that's wrong. That's the only functional difference. I said, "''While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more.''" Then I went on to describe the role, and yes all of the rest of it is possible as an admin. Ideally positive influence on a Wiki (and everywhere else in the world) is achieved by ideas and actions rather than the power to demote and block. In 6 years as a bureaucrat here, I have only ever threatened to demote an admin once, and never actually had to do so (other than voluntarily and admin retirements). Promoting new admins is one of the most important parts of being a bureaucrat, and I thoroughly reviewed all the candidates that made sense before the last two promotions were made. In honesty only time will time if people with good records and potential will live up to it, but YonedgeHp and 0551E80Y have earned their shots. Your argument swings back and forth between saying a bureaucrat should do more and saying I do too much on my own, and it just doesn't add up. If sometimes I do too much and other times not enough, I'm probably right about where I should be ("you can't make all the people happy all the time"). Also, consensus is not voting with discussion, it is the process of presenting points of view to arrive at a solution everyone can stand behind. Voting means 49% of people may be unhappy and not understand why the decision was made. Consensus takes substantially longer, but involves everyone to a greater extent, and leaves everyone happier with a higher quality resolution.
   
It Was on MSN.And, that anonymous IP said that Android 19 was a racist caricature because he is white and fat...--[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 04:41, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Bullza, I mostly agree with your comments on Dragon Emperor, and wrote my own earlier in this thread. I think he'll definitely get there in time. I'd like to see him communicate a little more in addition to what you said. While I don't find your argument for another bureaucrat completely compelling (since Wikia could always appoint a new new bureaucrat if I suddenly and unexpectedly disappeared after now 8 years of regular activity), I do trust in the fact that both you and Neffyarious feel it's the right thing to do. After due consideration of all community members on this Wiki, Bullza you are best suited to become the second bureaucrat. This is based on your outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills. Never forget there is always room to keep growing in all these areas. I am promoting you to bureaucrat effective immediately. Congratulations and please let me know if you have any questions. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:04, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Alright, I'll just ask him here to make sure. Once again, I'll re-add them all if that's the case. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:05, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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*You just promoted a new bureaucrat with little input from any users? You made the decision on who it would be completely alone, despite the apparent community consensus we need, and quickly, before anyone could even react. Really? What?--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 23:20, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
PZ just told me that he told you not to add anything Neko Majin related to DB articles. Please do not do so in the future. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:33, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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::Nope, that's all wrong. We've been discussing this for 5 days, and many of our most active users, and all the active admins have contributed to this discussion. While bureaucrats make the final decision on promotions, everyone's input was considered, including 4 years of observing Bullza and 5 years of observing you, the only active admins who have more than a couple days of experience as an admin. So after years of observations, and input from the community and all active admins, Bullza's outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills gave him an edge over you in this case. While the decision to appoint a second bureaucrat, spear-headed by you, was made in less than a week, the preference of candidates was years in the making. This was a well-reasoned, and long-considered decision. If you would like specific examples of the comparison, I can provide that for you. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:00, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Immortals category ==
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No. You made the final decision without enough community input, it should have been up to the greater community to decide the second bureaucrat, not you alone.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 00:15, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
I had told Silver to remove that category as androids are not immortals. And not worth having an entire category for 1 or 2 characters. Allow him to remove it from the articles. Thanks in advance mate. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 06:43, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:No. The only thing I determined was who of the two of you was better suited. I was best suited to do so, after over 4 years of observation and over 6 years doing the task myself. You are mad you didn’t get picked. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:19, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I mean we have Roshi, Immortal Phoenix, Yemma, Popo, Garlic Jr., just off the top of my head. There's also the demon characters from hell and people like Debura. I think that even without the androids there are plenty enough characters to keep the category. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:48, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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No, a decision like this should have been decided by the greater community. I'm not mad, just surprised at what you're doing. I really don't think this is the proper way of going about things.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 00:26, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
::No. None of those people are immortals. They "can" be killed. An immortal is someone who cannot be killed. This was discussed prior and we don't need the category. I'm extremely against it because the definition of an immortal is someone who cannot be killed. Master Roshi can be killed, for example. He is not an immortal. The only actual immortal is Garlic Junior due to his immortality. Yemma and Popo don't die in the series, but that isn't to assume that they can't be killed, they more than likely can. We can't assume anything. Therefore, no category. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 06:56, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:I don’t believe you. A few posts ago you were against community consensus. And you have been a part of other promotions and never pushed for community consensus back then, only this time when you got passed over. Rather than stew, I recommend you work on the areas I pointed out. Make the Wiki better and you have a good shot at being bureaucrat in the future. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Immortals means they can't be killed. peroid. --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 07:15, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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I was never against community consensus. The only promotion I was part of was Bullza's adminship, and there were a large amount of users who agreed Bullza was the best candidate, you even waited for my input before going through with it.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:28, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
No it doesn't. Period.
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:Well that’s clearly not true, since you spurred the last two admin promotions in this very thread, and also in this thread you recommended a vote. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:41, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
Please come up with something meaningful if you want to talk about this too. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:19, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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You'll find that after you promoted those two I said "I appreciate the efficiency, but shouldn't we have gotten more input - like from Bullza for example - before moving forward?".
   
:I love everyone here (well most, not the vandalizers, lol) Thanks for correcting it by the way, 10x. I hold you in great esteem. I don't even need to tell you that, you know it. Love ya mate. ^_~ - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 07:52, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Anyhow, I was discussing this subject with a member of the vanguard. You were technically in the right because we don't actually have a proper procedure for promotions, however due to our wikis size we should implement a procedure. A forum should be opened for us all to discuss proper promotion procedure.
   
== Category ==
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You were being a hypocrite when you said we should follow consensus but then proceeded to choose a second bureaucrat on your own, but as I said, we don't have a procedure in place so that can be overlooked.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 13:13, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
You're welcome. since i'm not sure about others, i'm going to quit while im ahead.assuming im ahead that is.--[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 08:28, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:(posted after the note below, for organization) The second bureaucrat was your idea. I’m the only one here with experience as this site’s bureaucrat, and the only thing I picked was Bullza over you, with the current admins’ input including yours. Bullza has stated you would have been fine, and you have stated Bullza would be fine. I’m growing tired of your lies. We do have a process here, which you should know after being an admin here for years [[Dragon Ball Wiki:Administrators]]. The process is the bureaucrats choose people to promote. I was going beyond that procedure by collecting input from others first. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:10, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Remaking Super Saiyan 2 ==
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[[Forum:Promotion procedure|Here]], I made it in the old forum style, I hope that's okay with you. We can always move it to the current forums if that would be better.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 13:27, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
Are they ever going to remake Gohan's, Goku's and Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 forms by changing their hairstyle's a little bit and adding the electricity in their aura's more constantly and frequent without the electric sparks having to dissapear from the aura occasionaly in their bodies? The reason why i am asking this question is because alot of fans are having trouble trying to distinguish the differances from a Super Saiyan to a Super Saiyan 2, since those two forms are very similar in appearance due to not having that many physical changes which is why alot of fans often keep on mistaking a Super Saiyan 2 from a Super Saiyan. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.15.103|96.232.15.103]] 05:23, December 24, 2009 (UTC)).
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:That is confusing. There is already a page for the procedure, use its talk page. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:10, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
:No, I can't imagine anyone remaking their looks. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:48, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
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::I started a thread there for you. I welcome the community’s input on if and how to modify our official process. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:22, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Happy Holidays ==
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Thanks, I suppose it would be better to put it in the admin talk. It would have been handy if you could have moved Bullza and I's comments there when you deleted it though.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:07, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
Just wanted to wish you all the best and a happy new year dear comrade. ^_^ - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 01:00, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
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:Sorry for that. I considered it but your comments were specific to it being a forum and I didn’t want to edit your words to make it fit. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 17:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks buddy, you too. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:35, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
== Goku ==
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::While you did start that convo in the wrong place, please don’t stick new text as a replacement for my intro to that thread. It makes it falsely seem like I am responding nonsensically. Also it included you saying there is no process on the talk page of the article containing the process, which made no sense. Be careful when moving around comments and just avoid doing so for other peoples’ if possible, thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 17:51, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
How did goku exactly achieve Super Saiyan 2 in the anime series? ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.0.190|96.232.0.190]] 04:14, December 25, 2009 (UTC)).
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Gotcha, I put it back below yours and adjusted it a bit to fit the context.--[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 18:29, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
:He trains really hard while he's dead after the Cell Saga. Unfortunately the precise moment is not detailed. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:36, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
In the anime series Goku never stated that he reached Super Saiyan 2 in the OtherWorld, he only stated that he reached Super Saiyan 3 in the OtherWorld. Also their are hints in the Daizenshuu and the New Super Exciting Guide character profiles stating that Goku actually reached Super Saiyan 2 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber while training with Gohan in the Cell Saga, but chose not to use the form in the Saga due to discovering that Gohan had reached Super Saiyan 2 first then him during their training and belevied that he had more power to defeat Cell. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.2.22|96.232.2.22]] 15:24, December 25, 2009 (UTC)).
 
:You can believe whatever you like, just don't add "hints" from unofficial guides into the articles. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:44, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
==Response to that edit on my talk page==
 
Uh, dude, the reason I made edits of some certain articles was to correct faulty information and delete wrong preconceptions that needn't go on the articles, and you're the one erasing out everyone's edits with the excuse "Too much information for my tastes" or something along the lines, for a bunch of 10-word edits at the most. Things like editing out Piccolo's hearing taking no disasterous aftereffects of receiving Buu and Gotenks' tremendous shrills I can tolerate, though not understand, as it's a small snippet that has no real effect whether it goes or doesn't go on the main site, but what you're doing is basically searching through every edit I and numerous others make and act like the authority on what should or shouldn't go on articles with the same repetitive excuse was just overdoing it (especially erasing things like "at times though, Gohan's hair is identical to his base version," which you can clearly see in the manga and anime). If you were an administrator or law enforcer on the site I'd have nil reason to complain (it being your job to do so), but don't act as though your opinion has more sway over anyone else's and in short vadalize edits that everyone else makes unless you can offer up a decent reason for undoing edits (such as, "information about other characters shouldn't be on this article kthnxbai" or something along those lines). If you can, I'd be well willing to listen, thanks for your time.
 
   
Whatever IP address I'm using at the moment, as I don't feel obliged to log into my account solely for short messages
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== SilverKaiser ==
   
Also, I've been on the site on this site since January, so you shouldn't immediately assume that because I'm not logged in, that pegs me as a newbie.
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This guy keeps vandalizing Broly, renamed it, and even wipe the page. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 03:07, July 13, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I am indeed an administrator on this site, check out the main page. One of the major things is that if you make a huge several-thousand-character edit that makes changes to 20 paragraphs, and 5 of those are improper for some reason, it's too wrong to leave in, but there is also the good info to consider. Since we like to believe the articles are very nearly accurate, the choice to remove the bad changes outweighs the addition of something that only marginally adds to a paragraph, or fifteen paragraphs, etc.
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Also keeps shoving his silly little fan fiction into the page too.(Kaleifla 03:11, July 13, 2018 (UTC))
   
:Ideally, I would go through your very long edits and take out the bad and leave in the good but, with the responsibility of screening hundreds of edits a week, this is impossible. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, and would ask that you make smaller edits which would then be individually removable.
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:Thanks, I gave him a 1 week block. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:58, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
:As for the repeated counts of swearing, both in general and directed at a fellow user (myself), I will be forced to temporarily block you. When the block expires, please consider all of what I have posted here, and especially the swearing (because you would never be blocked for format issues alone).
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== Bot ==
   
:Also, please sign your posts to talk/discussion pages. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:08, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
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Hey 10X, I want to turn [[User:DragonEmeperor Xeno|this account]] into a bot. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 18:27, July 13, 2018 (UTC)
   
== can you do this ==
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:No, you’ve been making too many edits against consensus that all have to be undone, currently this parallel nonsense. You cannot have a bot at this time. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:55, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
can you delete my account here i then make a new account cause i was here first by accident
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:This only happened because some of us thought we should separate the films from the main story after Broly's return. Plus, I need the bot for different task that's too time consuming right now. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 05:00, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
User:Fgf2
 
   
:I unfortunately cannot, please direct your question to [[User:Nonoitall|Nonoitall]]. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:09, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
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:Some people always think some things. Don’t reformat the whole site into twice as many articles or more on a whim. What’s this project? Stop making major changes to many articles at a time without getting admin input. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:05, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Question: DBGT Censored or No ==
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:The bot is for minor edits I can't focus on like fixing dead links or changing redirects to the main link, so I left a message on the CheckerPage for one. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 05:10, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
I was just wondering. Unlike DB and DBZ which are censored, can DBGT still be uncensored and uncut unlike their predecessors? {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}}17:21, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
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== RE: Parallel ==
   
:I don't know what you mean, you you be more specific? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 20:29, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
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Hi. regarding your message, it is not "my so-called parallel characters", there were already characters like that because this wiki was seperating the movie versions of the characters after it was announced there was going to be a Dragon Ball Super version of Broly, so I did not make that up. Also, there was a red link for it on the Goku Parallel and Gohan Parallel. I am sorry that there was a bit of a mess upon the creation of the article. [[User:Sclera1|Sclera1]] ([[User talk:Sclera1|talk]]) 22:30, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
I mean to say was Dragon Ball GT was uncensored and unedited since their first release in America back in 2003. However, unlike Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, DBGT was dubbed by FUNimation cast themselves. {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}}21:52, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
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:Went to the Manual of style and I understand, sorry about the mistaken assumption, thought it was an official thing, thank you for the clarification [[User:Sclera1|Sclera1]] ([[User talk:Sclera1|talk]]) 22:34, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Goku article ==
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== Broly ==
   
Sigh...why is it always you.?
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Are we allowing people to add information on the Super variant of Broly to the Triple Threat Broly's page? Because that's what's happening. Considering it's confirmed to be a completely different Broly, they're essentially adding information to the wrong character. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 03:00, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
Anyway, about the Goku article the 5'8" reference may be incorrect because Dragon Ball Wiki itself says that Toriyama stated Goku's height as 5'7" and not 5'8". Next time I edit I will just take out the reference. Also I will try to find another image of Goku as a SS4, because that image is too small and although it sows his body it is in the other article. Vegeta has 2 SS4 images on his articles anyway so I don;t see the problem. If the image I find is a duplicate then I will use the one on here already.
 
([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 19:30, December 31, 2009 (UTC))
 
:It's perfectly fine for an image to be on multiple articles, in fact I bet 20 such images could easily be found. In any case, if you find an SS4 image of Goku that better shows the form, then replace it. Just don't replace it with a bad one. As for the height difference, do not change Goku's height unless you have a new, somehow more reliable reference than the one that's already there. Thanks and keep up the good work. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:52, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 
Excellent new SS4 image, that's exactly what I was talking about. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:58, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 
:Well thank you for the SS4 image. Also for Goku's height it is 5'7" because even Dragon Ball Wiki says Akira Toriyama stated Goku's height as 5'7" himself. Also if you search Goku's height on google it says its 5'7" for most of the links. I don't know which is more reliable, but I'm pretty sure the 5'8" is incorrect. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 01:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC))
 
You can't just say "so and so said something", you need to actually find a reputable site that has the exact quote. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 03:22, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
Ok then your contradicting most sources and Dragon Ball wiki because almost everyone says Goku's height is 5'7" (when compared to Vegeta's 5'3"). Just because someone put it as 5'8" with a reference doesn't make it automatically right. Akira Toriyama isn't just "someone". I'll try to look for his quote or statement, but I'm telliing you you really are incorrect on this issue and Goku is not 5'8". Dragon Ball Wiki itself even proves that in several of its articles. For example go to the Vegeta article and read the first paragh. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 03:56, January 1, 2010 (UTC))
 
:I didn't say that that it is what I think is true, I'm simply telling you the rules, and enforcing them. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:03, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
Additionally, thank you for letting me know about the Vegeta article, I've corrected it. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:07, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Ahem! ==
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:Not completely different. We’ll see. For now yes it’s okay. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:18, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
Once again man, [[Goku's Wiener]] article is back. You told some dude to remove it weeks ago, But I'm ashamed to do so. {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}}15:55, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
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::Actually He Takes Inspiration From The Original Broly But He's Not The Same Broly. He's Supposed To Have A Different Personality And Background. EDIT: Idea For The Parallel Pages Though, Why Not Put Them In Different Tabs? Like, Some Wikias Have It So Like, Synopsis And Etc. Are All Put Into Different Tabs On The Page. The Bleach Wikia Has Something Similar, They Put Image Galleries And Stuff Into Different Tabs. U Could Do The Same Thing For Broly But Instead Have Movie 8 And Super Movies As The Names. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 04:00, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Shin Budokai: Another Road ==
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:Thanks for the comment. Please read the Manual of Style talk page for comments addressing your idea in the past. Also, in English we only capitalize the first letter in a sentence and proper nouns. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:29, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
   
Why did you leave the images on? The pictures aren't covers of the game, they're pics of the previous entry --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 19:46, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
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== The Parent Tab 2 ==
:Oops, you're right. Could you please move them to the correct page? Thanks. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:32, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
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{{Parent Tab 2
Sure I'll try, though i don't know how to do it --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 00:37, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
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This is my proposal right here for pages too big only. I managed to fix right and got the signature colors in. This is what every fandom site uses and we shouldn't be the only ones. I want everybody to think this over first before shooting me down. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 00:06, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
:I took care of it. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:33, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
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:I agree wih Bullza, both on the functionality needing to be cross-platform and on this being a topic for talk:MoS. I am generally in favor, let’s do it the right way. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:41, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
Cool, sorry I couldn't be of any help --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:39, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
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::This Thing Here Is What Should Be Used To Separate Different Versions Of Characters, IE Xeno Goku, Regular Goku, Movie 8 Broly, Super Movie Broly, Etc. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 05:41, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Gohan article ==
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== Sorry to intrude ==
Why did you revert my edits? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 12:55, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Partly because you removed true, relevant information, and partially because you lied about what your edit was doing. "Fixing grammar" is not the same as "removing info to support my opinion." I hope that you have not reverted my edit before asking why, but I will not be back until later tonight, so hopefully if you have, it will be fixed by then until we can discuss further. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 
No, no, I didn't remove it, I moved it to the Trivia section. I'll be sure to fix my edit summaries then --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:56, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Wait, why did you let the "Gohan surpassing Goku" part stand? On top of that you reverted the better sounding sentences. Why? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
You added 50-100 line breaks. Why don't you look over my latest edit to the Gohan page, and check out how many lines I removed by undoing your edit. You might be surprised by how many lines you added. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:14, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
Oh. I'm sorry about that. But still, letting the Gohan > Goku part stand in the trivia section? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 19:49, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
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Hey, it's been a while! Hope this isn't too out of turn, I found [https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nazim-193 this user] spamming a lot of edits, most (I think) of which are false based on what I could tell from external googling. I wouldn't have done anything but I checked his talk page and noticed that he'd been getting banned a lot for inserting false information so I went ahead and banned him. If that was in error, I apologize :0 I figured that, due to the fact that it's morning, people might not be online to stop or confront edits at this pace - and I just happened to be around. Cheers, {{User:Shakuran13/sig7}} 14:06, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Thanks ==
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:You’re good, thanks for the help! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:23, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
   
Thanks for seeing our point.i just do what i get told to do, hey if you dont mind,could you help me with something? --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 06:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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== Something interesting ==
:Maybe, what's up? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:43, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Sorry... ==
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Dragon Ball Tour 2018's section of Comic-Con gave us our [http://i63.tinypic.com/2dbm05j.jpg first official usage of the term canon]. You think this means we should move the DBS manga up to tier 1 canon? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 16:36, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
   
Did slight errors by mistakes. It happens... {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}} 02:14, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
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:Who made the poster? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:26, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Yo ==
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The tour is run by [[Shueisha]] and [[Toei Animation]]. Btw, it's a [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/1/16/Dragon_Ball_manga_timeline.png/revision/latest?cb=20180720195055 whole wall] not just a poster. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 09:49, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome. I came from the Final Fantasy Wiki, to help out this one, it's really messy! See ya! -- • '''[[User:Kyrel|Kyrel]]''' [[User talk:Kyrel|[Talk]]] 14:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I don't know what you mean by "messy", as the site is top of the line, save a few in-progress projects, but we appreciate any work you'd like to put it. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 08:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Heya ==
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:So this statement is the publisher’s words. If we move the manga to the top level, then we should also demote the Toriyama-written DBZ/Super movies. The question is, do we make a judgment call that Toriyama’s direct writing (movies) overrules the publishers marketing? Literally speaking, all canonical usually means is written by the original author (as opposed to the official/accepted group of stories like how some fan communities use it). So we must ask ourselves, was the intent of this marketing to tell fan communities that the manga overrules the movies and anime in terms of continuity (unlikely), or was it to tell them the manga is from Toriyama and if you liked DBZ you will like DBS too? I think the latter is more likely. I percieve this as marketing to drive sales, not distinguishing guidance between versions of DBS. Right? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:57, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
Got MSN? --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 08:11, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Nope, sorry. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 08:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Darn.It makes our job more convenient.maybe you should make one.its made zarbon and my job easier. Besides that,you could discuss things with zarbon and i.well.not zarbon.cause i expect you know whats gonna happen to him.but.it could make our job easier.but.You dont have to ^-^ --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 08:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== My Message ==
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:The latter would seem more likely. I don't think it would sit well for the manga to actually be considered a higher level of canon than the movies that Toriyama wrote himself. Especially when the anime and manga were just doing an adaptation of those movies in the first place. Still I'd say the manga should be considered just as canon as the anime.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 08:09, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
   
The Changing your sig was an accident.and.Im not sure if im allowed to tell you what zarbons doing [[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 05:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
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::I agree as well. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 09:58, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
:Ummm ok, lol. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:54, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Gotenks ==
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I don't mind it not moving, mostly just wanted to bring up that we got our first ever reference to a DB canon. Why would we have to move the Toriyama movies down though? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:20, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
Didn't we not want any power comparisons? {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 22:57, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:We don't want people comparing power when there are no direct facts supporting the claims. Someone saying that Goku is stronger than Krillin however, if obviously not debatable in say, GT. It's tricky sometimes, but feel free to ask if you're ever unsure. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:24, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Move ==
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:I agree with Bullza and 0551 on the manga being at the anime level, which is actually where it already is. Also agree with Bullza on the latter (same author) canon meaning being most likely in this case. Whereas series like Star Wars are very rigid and serious in continuity, DB creators thus far don’t seem to mind having 3+ alternate versions of things, with multiple timelines and parallel universes even within a single media type and plotline, as long as the story stays fun and exciting and they are making $$. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:33, July 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
Nubescout just made a bunch of new pages,if you have time,can you move the pages. Because he hasnt capitalised the titles,so can you move them? [[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 00:34, January 17, 2010 (UTC).
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== Shallot Images ==
   
==DBZ Budokai Level Titles==
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Hello there, I have a question regarding uploading images. I attempted to upload two screenshots I took from my phone of Shallot wearing Vegeta's armor and Goku's Gi, illistrated in-game art specifically. I first tried to add them to his personal gallery and that didn't work, and I haven't edited a wiki article in years so I was afraid of messing something up lol.
Hey, 10X Kamehameha. As you may know a few days ago, Nubescout created several pages about the What-If levels in [[Dragon Ball Z: Budokai]] and also [[Dragon Ball: Raging Blast]]. I've noticed you've moved the articles about the level titles in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai to titles with better capitalization. However, I was playing Dragon Ball Z: Budokai the other day, and I was in Story Mode, most notably the Android Saga. There, I saw that the last two objective names were called, "Aim For Perfect Form!" and "A Cold-Blooded Assassin", including the exclamation point and dash respectively, along with the capitalization of every word in each title.
 
   
I've seen on the move log page that you've moved the "Funimation Dub" article and its talk page to "FUNimation Dub" and "Talk:FUNimation Dub," seeing as how the company writes it. Based on what you did, I was thinking we could do the same with the "Aim for Perfect Form"
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Then I tried adding them to the general images section where new images show up and can be added, and neither were allowed to be uploaded. Any idea what to do?
and "A Cold-blooded Assassin" pages. What I mean is that we should move the name of the articles to "Aim For Perfect Form!" and "A Cold-Blooded Assassin," because that is how they are written in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. Would you agree? {{User:SSJ2AJB/sig}}
 
   
:Yah, you're right. I ended up moving most of the level titles, since some of them were clearly pretty wrong, but if the game has it's own special Engrish (lol), then that's what we should use for the titles. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:16, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks [[User:AsuraDrago|AsuraDrago]] 19:49, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Thanks and, a Tip!!!!!!!! ==
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:Hello and welcome to the Wiki. I checked the Shallot article and there are no editing restrictions specific to the article. There may be general image upload reatrictions for new users, in which case just keep editing and eventually the system will categorize you as “autoconfirmed” rather than new. When you weren’t able to upload, did you get any meaningful error messages? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 22:27, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
Thanks, Dude. Actually i See DBZ in cartoon Network India form the start, then i logged into this wikia from june. i saw your edits for a while... and now i actually have an advance knowdege and sense of DB Universe. thanks, again. and a tip ! when a page in the watchlist gets changed, a email says what you know, but if the email says like ''yo i am master roshi a page on your watchlist has been changed'' bla bla, it would be so fun! ill tell you how to--
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==Discord server==
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What do you think of setting up a discord server for Dragon Ball wiki? Barely anyone uses wiki chat anymore, so lots of wikis have set up the discord widget that appears on the sidebar. --[[User:Stryzzar|Stryzzar]] ([[user talk:Stryzzar|talk]]) 03:47, August 13, 2018 (UTC)
   
1:go to http://dragonball.wikia.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Enotif_body
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:What is a discord server, and what does it have to do with chat? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:18, August 17, 2018 (UTC)
   
2: go to the main article
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::[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord_(software) Discord] is a social media app that's become immensely popular lately. Many wikis have use it to substitute the wiki chat as discord provides a lot more features such as voice chat and image/video sharing. The way it works for a wiki is people click on a link on the wikia sidebar and it takes them to the discord, though they need to make a discord account first. For instance [https://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity Arrow wiki] has one to the right side of Recent Activity. --[[User:Stryzzar|Stryzzar]] ([[user talk:Stryzzar|talk]]) 14:03, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
3: change the article! (Everyone will recieve the same way)
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:Sounds like the only big change would be voice chat, which I’m not sure is an improvement. Would all users have to download that app? Is the app affiliated with Wikia? Is it free? Does is work on all hardware devices? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:47, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
Hope you liked! thanks again for the great DB wiki! ill be logging in till march end, then ill go to hostel and will log in only in annual 3 month holidays.
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::I'm familiar. Discord isn't affiliated with Wikia as far as I know. Downloading the app would probably provide the best experience but it can also open in-browser too. It works on desktop and mobile, and it's free. I personally like this idea, our chat's been pretty dead in the past few years and Discord is extremely popular. The Dragon Ball subreddit actually has a Discord server with a ton of users on it too if you want to check it out and see how it works. —{{User:Final Chidori/shortblue}} 20:56, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
   
[[User:Son Vegeta|Son Vegeta]] 16:27, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
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Your word’s good enough for me, FC. I’m on board. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:13, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
:You might be better off asking someone like [[User:Nonoitall|Nonoitall]] for important format changes like that. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:09, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
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== Delete this fan fiction page please. ==
   
== Android 18 page ==
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[//dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Dragon_God https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Dragon_God] (Kaleifla 08:33, August 19, 2018 (UTC))
You keep vandalizing the Android 18 page by posting information that has no evidence to back it up. #17 and #18 are TWINS. How could Dr. Gero make them into twins? That's nonsense. And if #18 possessed a sense of right and wrong, she wouldn't have stolen the two outfits, blew up a forest, attacked the police, sent a police car flying into a mountain, and trashed Goku's house. Stop posting such controversial nonsense.
 
:They were altered dramatically and could have been changed in any way. For instance, I could build two robots, and program them to say that they are twins, but the parts I used would obviously not have been "twins" beforehand. In addition, doing some evil things but feeling remorse afterward shows a clear sense of right and wrong. Finally, do not alter the page again without consensus, I have little tolerance for continued vandalism and edit warring. Keep in mind that consensus is need to ''change'' an article, not to keep it the same. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:02, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Video games ==
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:YonedgeHp deleted the article. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:04, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
   
Well if im just gonna ignore the tertiary thing. it MAY not ruin this wiki for me if we can make it cleaner.somehow. if i left the wiki id have nothing to do,except make videos^_^. Point taken however. I Just bought Attack of the Saiyans, and i just finished Origins, so i'm gonna be writing on articles to do with those for a while.Oh, bye the way, zarbon's away on personal bussiness (I think he doesnt want me to give away details about his life), but he should be back fully editing within the week --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 10:38, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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== Dragon Ball Encyclopedia ==
:Oh cool, I wish I had more time for video games and such, but school takes up a lot of my time. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 10:40, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Main Page- latest news ==
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Hello! This is a new account as I've honestly just forgotten every other account I've ever had.. Point being: What happened to Dragon Ball Encyclopedia? I rememember back in like 2011 when I was a kid that this site pretty much shut down and switched to there but seemingly switched back in like 2015. Do you have a reason why by any chance? Any information would be appreciated! [[User:TheRealSkelebro|TheRealSkelebro]] ([[User talk:TheRealSkelebro|talk]]) 04:54, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
   
Hey, which one of the mods edits the Latest new section of the front page? Cause, if you, or they could edit it, could you add something about the passing of Daisuke Gori? --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 10:49, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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:One or two of the admins at some point were annoyed at some Wikia change and decided to make their own site to rival this one. Most of us, including myself, continued spending most of our time here, but helped out at the new site from time to time. After about a month, most of us lost interest and stopped helping out over there much at all. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:44, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
:That'd be SSJGoku93. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 10:51, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==Unnecessary Dr. Slump characters==
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== Manga vs Anime (Super) ==
I have basically copied all of the material about Dr. Slump I have wrote on this wiki onto the Dr. Slump wiki which I will be adopting because of its inactivity and tons lacking information it had. So since I have put the information there I listed the characters that have articles on this wiki that need to be deleted since they did not appear in any crossover with Dragon Ball. - [[User:Slayer25769|Slayer25769]] 00:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
* [[Kon Kimidori]]
 
* [[Murasaki Kimidori]] (Not to be confused with [[Ninja Murasaki]] of the [[Red Ribbon Army]])
 
* [[Mame Soramame]]
 
* [[Pochi Soramame]]
 
* [[Hiyoko]]
 
* [[Poosuke]]
 
* [[Kitsuneko]]
 
* [[Old Man Poop]]
 
* [[Scoppe]]
 
* [[The Champ]]
 
* [[Sankaku]]
 
* [[Ice Cream]]
 
* [[Professor Monster]]
 
* [[Time-Kun]]
 
:Alright good work. Since this is sort of a big thing though why don't you bring this to SSJGoku97, since I know either he or PZ like to review format issues before implementation. I'm sure it's fine, but just in case. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Foul language entered in Bulla page ==
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I posted this on the Manual of Style talk page but I was wondering if Super's manga and anime should be split up into different sections for the characters. I think that would make those pages more organized and stop the repeating "in the manga" and "in the anime" on most of them[[User:Creeperman129|Creeperman129]] ([[User talk:Creeperman129|talk]]) 04:22, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
Hi, just a friendly reminder that allowing this wikia to be edited by unregistered users can lead to such things as "fat pussy and juicy breasts" being entered in Bulla's main description paragraph. Since it's obviously uncalled for, and edited by an anonymous editor, I've taken the liberty of deleting that edit.
 
:Not all anon users are vandals, and some registered users are. While we would like everyone to register if they plan to edit regularly, we have no problem with anon users stopping by to help out. Either way, we revert vandalism as quick as possible, thanks for your help. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==Question==
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([[User:Misaki Ayuzawa 23|Misaki Ayuzawa 23]] ([[User talk:Misaki Ayuzawa 23|talk]]) 21:08, September 1, 2018 (UTC)). Theres a spelling error on nappas wiki page on his power section on the mamg and anime it says Despite this, he still was unable to actually calm any harm on Goku. I dont why soneone put tbe words calm harm on but that just dosent make any sense is all im saying
how do you add a link from list of characters to a person
 
:Could you be more specific? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==External Links==
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:No, that would make all the articles twice as long and extremely redundant. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:10, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
How come extended links are not allowed on articles? - [[User:Slayer25769|Slayer25769]] 05:46, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
:''External'' links should only be used for references and in "External Links" sections. The idea is that we can watch over and protect any of the articles on our site, and ensure that they are working and in a format that our site's users have deemed acceptable. External links to other sites don't give us that control, and could potentially give readers the wrong idea of our content if an external link is broken, the site it leads to is altered, etc.
 
:As for Slump articles, once you get articles up for characters that we have here, such as Arale, you might make an "External Links" section at the bottom and have a link that says ''"More details on Arale can be found at Dr. Slump Wiki"'', and have it be a link to the other site. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 15:13, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Sorry for being impatient ==
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How would merely splitting up the canonicities on the pages be redundant? It'd be placing the same information, or just a little bit more, into each of their pages. For example, just look at Frost's biography page. Its ordering is a mess with it flip flopping from "in the anime" to "in the manga". I'm just saying if we just put sections for each of them it would be a lot easier for people to get info. [[User:Creeperman129|Creeperman129]] ([[User talk:Creeperman129|talk]]) 04:18, September 8, 2018 (UTC)
   
I put this on the supreme kai talkpage but,didn't goku ask the supreme kai to fuse with him but was rejected say that he was to strong. well thats what my friend said anyway.
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:If someone reads something here and then they have to read the whole 90% same thing a second time, for every sentence, papragraph, section, and article, then they are redundantly spending twice as long here to get the same amount of info. Also, if we did this with manga and anime, we would robably get pulled into doing it for other media types as well. It would take readers longer and overall make it much harder for people to get info here. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:01, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
P.S if it does happen does it happen in the orignal or just the dub. [[User:Catface|<span style="color: blue"><small>Before you're born]][[User_Talk:Catface|Death flashes before your eyes.</small></span>]] 17:53, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I don't recall that specifically, but it sounds like something Goku might have said. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:33, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==AlphaMaleSchaab==
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I'm not saying we should copy and paste like the histories from Goku into manga or anime portions. For those things where the stories are basically te same, I understand keeping it to one history bio. But for characters in Super it's undeniable that the manga and anime are different. We don't even have to seperate the personality sections or anything, just the history and maybe power. It wouldn't just be copy pasted information prior to that, it would be detailing the history of the character in each respective continuity. I can take an image of what I'm thinking of in case I'm not clear enough. 
hey this is a real kool set up you guys got going on this wiki, how long have you had it up? and how often do you update the things like quote of the day and the item/subject of the month?[[User:AlphaMaleSchaab|AlphaMaleSchaab]] 19:21, January 27, 2010 (UTC)AlphaMaleSchaab
 
:The site has been around for a two or three years now. Daily features are updated daily, monthly features are updated monthly. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:42, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== My Edit ==
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And apologies for seeming super stubborn about this [[User:Creeperman129|Creeperman129]] ([[User talk:Creeperman129|talk]]) 20:02, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
Ummm...the image of Bulma in her profile was from an episode in the Frieza Saga not the Namek Saga, so my edit wasn't vandalism. It was more accurate. Just putting that out there ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 20:50, December 2, 2009 (UTC))
 
   
:Who said it was vandalism? I deleted it for two reasons. First, you continuously added tons of line breaks, distorting the entire article format. Second, your edit was utterly meaningless. Images in the infobox do not have captions. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:40, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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Just look at [https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Wiki:Sandbox sandbox], I already had an example of what your talking about. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 20:25, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
Tons of line breaks? I replaced the word Namek with "the Frieza". PrinceZarbon has since changed it by taking away the "the". How is typing simple words adding a lot of line breaks? I still don't even know what line breaks are and the Manual of Style page didn't help explain what they are. It simply said not to use them. Also id what you are saying is true about imfobox images then why does every other article have captions in thier infoboxes such as Goku, Vegetta, etc. Are you sure your not assuming information? ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 04:48, December 3, 2009 (UTC))
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:You guys are saying it won’t be copy-pasted, but it’s basically copy-pasted in that example. Also this will inevitably happen with every section, because all the things you’ve said (undeniably different) apply to everything in this and nearly every other series with multiple media types. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:49, September 12, 2018 (UTC)
   
:You are wrong, the image in the infobox of the Goku article does not have a caption, which makes sense since the captions in images in infoboxes are not displayed. This is what line breaks are:
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==Translation of Madōshi (魔導師)==
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Is "Demon Guide Master" a direct translation of Madōshi (魔導師)? - [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 01:48, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
   
:1 line break:
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:I don’t know. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:49, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
   
:2 line breaks:
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:Madōshi is "Mage" or "Wizard" I think. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:59, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
   
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==Dragon Ball Heroes==
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hey, it appears dragon ball heroes the series isn't going to be considered canon. With that being said should we still include information from the series such as in a list that states all the characters to achieve SSJ4 should we add Vegito since he just achieved it in the new series? Any one else got an opinion let me know. [[User:JBour53|Jon the Don -JBour53]] ([[User talk:JBour53|Talk to my consigliere]]) 10:10, November 7, 2018 (UTC)
   
:3 line breaks:
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:Where are you getting this “canon” statement from? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:17, November 10, 2018 (UTC)
   
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::Well, its not confirmed canon or not yet so I am honestly just assuming. But either way I see we should just add it. I was just asking because a discussions user was asking why that wasn't updated yet but I wasn't 100% sure how we were handling that info but I understand now. [[User:JBour53|Jon the Don -JBour53]] ([[User talk:JBour53|Talk to my consigliere]]) 20:42, November 15, 2018 (UTC)
   
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Read the Manual of Style. “Canon” is a fan term, not an official one. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:28, November 16, 2018 (UTC)
   
:It is easily seen how detrimental adding these all over articles is. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:56, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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== You Were Right All Along ==
   
Ok fine I was wrong. The other articles do not have captions. So then shouldn't the other articles not have theses captions like the Bulma article? Maybe you should remove it. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 05:38, December 3, 2009 (UTC))
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10X, you were right about what to do a long time ago: Take a Break. And I'm gonna do that too when the English dub of DBS ends cause I made a commitment to finish it first. After all the commotion I went through up here made me realize that I'm tired of it and this wikia isn't going anywhere. So maybe the day I return to edit again after DBS ends, we could talk and see if I '''truly earned''' the right to be an admin then. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 23:41, November 29, 2018 (UTC)
   
== SSJ3 Goku & Ultimate Gohan ==
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:Enjoy yourself friend. We’ll be here when you want to come back. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:57, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
Hi, long time no see. I think I found some contradictions that might support Goku as stronger than Ultimate Gohan. PrinceZarbon warned me not to change the pages if you are going to insert some power level comparisons, but I was thinking more on the lines of a personal preference section to put in the Goku and Gohan articles on the debate between who is stronger. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I saw a paragraph on this argument on the Gohan article page, underneath the Ultimate form headline. DO you think I should add some thing like that to the Goku page? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 23:54, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:No, please do not add power comparisons to pages. Take any discussions about them to the power comparison forum page. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:41, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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== Broly ==
   
I understand, but can I put it as a implication, just like it did on the Gohan page? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 19:40, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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I can't remember if this has been mentioned or not but we could use a definite answer. On the character pages is the Dragon Ball Super Broly part of the biography to go into the main biography after the Universe Survival section or is it to go in the Film Appearances section?
   
:Nothing on the pages should be solely "implied", please only facts. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:00, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
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It's part of the main story and takes place after the Universe Survival Saga and before this Galactic Prisoner Saga so could be best suited in the main biography otherwise it'd jump from the Universe Survival Saga to the Galactic Prisoner Saga with nothing in-between.
   
I do have evidence supporting Goku as stronger. Should I put it then? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 20:46, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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But on the other hand it is a Film and Battle of Gods and Resurrection F were added to the Film section even though they were part of the main story.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 01:53, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Why don't you run it by Nonoitall first. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:42, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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:It should be listed as a movie appearance for Broly. That’s all we know for sure so far. I would treat this like Emperor Chiaotzu or General Tao, just an alternate version in 1 film (so far). Splitting the info up into multiple articles will just make it harder to find for readers. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:09, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
OK, thanks for your help. Also, if you don't want power level comparisons, there is a section under the Gohan article doing this. It is in the trivial part and in the Ultimate Gohan section. SSJ2AJB and Nonoitall don't want me to change it, so should we leave the paragraphs there? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 06:36, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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:I don't mean for separate pages to be made. Just for example, what Piccolo does in the Dragon Ball Super Broly movie, do we put that under his Biography section after the Universe Survival Saga or do we put it in the Film Appearances section after A Heroes Legacy?[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 04:03, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
:If Nonoitall says leave it as is, then do so. He's the boss, so to speak. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:15, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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Anything in [[Dragon Ball Wiki:Manual of Style#Canonicity|Tier 1 and 2 Canon]] goes in the main bio, this includes Movies 18/19/20. Movie 19 and 20 are supposed to be merged with their anime counterparts under their movie names, but nobody has gotten around to finishing this. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 16:11, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
   
Sorry to kind of butt into the conversation, but I want to make sure there's no misunderstanding here. All I said was that the current consensus reached on the [[Talk:Gohan|talk page]] was that the information on the article was accurate and noteworthy. As I've suggested numerous times from the get-go, if anyone has further information on the issue from an authoritative source, by all means post it on the article's talk page. Don't just run around telling people that you have found "contradictions" or "evidence" without sharing anything and then imply that I or some other admin have overridden your right to present your case.
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:Wouldn't this result in a section that's gonna contain "In the movie...", "In the anime...", "In the manga..."?[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 08:22, December 1, 2018 (UTC)
   
I'm not here to be a dictator and (sorry to contradict you 10X Kamehameha) I am not 'the boss'. The consensus of the community is what should guide our decision-making, not my word or any other individual's. SaiyanZ, as I have repeatedly requested, if you have information to share, please share it. -- {{User:Nonoitall/sig}} 08:21, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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Yeah for BoG and RF. There manga were really limited though so it ain't much of a problem. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:28, December 1, 2018 (UTC)
   
Ok then --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 22:07, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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:Plus we’re supposed to be using reference tags like every other Wiki and Wikipedia and actual encyclopedias, not writing out sources in text. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:48, December 2, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Your opinion ==
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== Behavioral Issues ==
   
I need your feedback here for the [[Category talk:Immortals|Immortals]] category. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 14:50, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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Hey there. I hate to cause you any trouble, but I thought I might alert you to the last few posts in [https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:624514 this thread]. Admittedly, the debate had been heated on and off for awhile, but, as of his recent handful of posts, [[User:FlatZone|FlatZone]] has devolved into just throwing around cursing and insults at everyone who disagrees with him or makes a point counter to his. It looks really unbecoming of your site when members behave like this in the public forums. Just thought you should be aware of it, since you seem to be the head honcho (or one of them) around here. Cheers! '''[[User:Jacob Kingston|Jacob Kingston]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Jacob Kingston|Talk]])</sup> 22:50, December 4, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Hello. ==
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: My apologies, I needed to add this to my message: it would appear that he's been insulting other members as much as two days prior before I entered the thread—so you might have to scroll up from the bottom a bit to get the full scope. He's also been reprimanded on another wiki I'm a member of for the same behavior. Again, don't know if you guys take off-site behavior into consideration, but it was something I felt you should be aware of; it doesn't seem the other members in that forum were exactly happy with the way he was talking to them either. In the meantime, I have ceased debating him so that you and anyone else can read the discussion without having to muck through more of his insults. Thank you in advance! '''[[User:Jacob Kingston|Jacob Kingston]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Jacob Kingston|Talk]])</sup> 23:05, December 4, 2018 (UTC)
   
Hi thanks for the help...it's my first time in a wikia page and I might have some problems with editing the pages...anyway.Are you a moderator here? {{unsigned|Android18Greece}}
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I already took care of the issue. I will not tolerate these types of attitudes and actions on this website, especially when the user is recidivist and was previously warned. Thanks for bringing the matter to us!
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{{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 23:09, December 4, 2018 (UTC)
   
:Yup, let me know if you need anything. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 08:37, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
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:Great job YonedgeHp. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:06, December 5, 2018 (UTC)
   
== Broly ==
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== Tracks ==
I am sorry to bother you but it is stated in Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan that when he was an infant he transformed into a Super Saiyan when Frieza destroyed the Saiyans home planet. {{unsigned|SuperSaiyan3Broly}}
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I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have one single page for the Bruce Faulconer tracks and there usages. There's a ton of pages for each individual song and most of these pages haven't been touched in a good while or are otherwise mostly empty. I thought if I could make the one page with all the songs, separated by album (of which there's six) with their usages listed for each song then it'd be a lot easier for people to find and also to keep on top of as there'd be just the one page to update. What do you think?[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 10:45, December 7, 2018 (UTC)
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:Sure, why not. I recommend leaving the track name pages as redirects. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:37, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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== Infobox ==
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I changed up the infobox, for now have a look at Goku's because that's the one I mainly messed with.
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I added a Debuts, Characteristics, Professional Status and Personal Status header. I changed Alternate names to Alias so it fits on one line. I added a Manga, Anime and Movie Debut line so it wasn't as scrunched up. I moved the Height and Weight up above the Dates of Birth. I removed the dates of revival because that made it look a mess. I moved the address down so it went under Professional Status. I added Relatives, Counterparts and Mentors under the Personal Status header so it was neater and so we don't have to see Future Goku (timeline counterpart), Master Roshi (mentor), Korin (mentor), Whis (mentor) etc.
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If you don't think it works I can put it back but tell me what you think. I haven't finished though because I want Debuts, Characteristics etc to be in the center, not on the far left like it is but I don't know how to do that. I also want to make the headers orange not a dull looking grey but I don't know how to do that either.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 18:01, December 9, 2018 (UTC)
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:Edit: Well many hours later, I finally got the text in the center and I changed the colour so it's mostly done but not fully. There's still issues minor issues but it is mostly what I had in mind.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 01:56, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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:Looks good. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:42, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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== Broly: BR ==
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X10, can you restore the page so I can retrieve all the info for the main Broly page. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 03:50, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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:You can click restore/view without saving. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:58, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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::Where cause I don't know how? [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 04:29, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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:Navigate to the deleted article in desktop mode, and click restore/view. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
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If you deleted the Broly BR shouldn't you delete the Paragus BR one? {{unsigned|Hulk10}}
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:Yes. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
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Did you back up or copy the Broly:BR page information?[[User:ScipioLecter|ScipioLecter]] ([[User talk:ScipioLecter|talk]]) 21:21, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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:Hello and welcome to Wikia. Every edit is always backed up and saved, including deleted articles. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, but the Broly article looks absolutely disgusting and is to difficult to navigate, not to mention most users are complaining about the revamp in the article. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but why did we do this? Can we entertain other solutions? This is just out of hand at this point. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 05:56, December 11, 2018 (UTC)
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:See my response on the Broly talk page. Making 2 articles makes the info too hard to find for casual readers. The info is meant to be as easy to find as possible, regardless of editor preference. This is an encyclopedia first and foremost. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 00:55, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
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"The info is meant to be as easy as possible to find." Having a single article for two completely separate characters does not make it easier. Everything about them, from personality to appearance, differ greatly. Having a single article makes it incredibly confusing for viewers in general to find the information. If a casual reader were to read the article, theycd assume the two characters, who have been confirmed to he two completely different characters, are the same person. I understand you think it should be easier, but this is not the way ro go about it. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:17, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
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:Yeah, and besides, by that same logic, we probably should merge all the Future Articles with the main articles (in other words, merge Future Trunks with Kid Trunks), merge all the Zamasu articles, heck, might as well also merge all the Xeno articles with the main ones, regardless of how different those characters are. All for the sake of "casual readers" (which BTW, if I were a casual reader, I actually WOULD be confused by that format you're proposing because I would be thinking, if they were the same character, they're acting schizophrenic due to how differently they act). [[User:Weedle McHairybug|Weedle McHairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle McHairybug|talk]]) 13:57, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
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:All Xeno characters should be merged then too, and future as stated above. The Broly page is an eye sore and once you read half of it you find out the entire top half of the page doesn't apply to the bottom. And the forms part is even more confusing, saying forms appear in certain movies without saying they only apply to the broly shown in X, which once added will only make the page even more confusing to navigate. Both being on the same page literally only caused a huge issue in accuracy. It fixed nothing. [[User:J spencer93|J spencer93]] ([[User talk:J spencer93|talk]]) 03:52, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
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I just don't see why you made the decision without even bringing it up to anyone. There's nothing in the Manual of Style on it. You literally just did this because you wanted to and didn't bother weighing the pros and cons. If any of us had done that, we'd have gotten a warning or have been blocked. This needs to be addressed with the admins and a consensus must be agreed upon. I'd have restored the pages and brought it up in the Manual of Style by now if I knew how to. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 04:49, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
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:With as little irony as possible talking to you guys, I’m obviously not a fan on redundancy on the site. Please don’t ask the same questions both here and on the Broly talk page. I won’t copy-paste the same responses twice. Like having two articles for the same character for every new movie appearance, it just doesn’t make sense. I already answered over there. To ExyleCage who asked something new here (which again would be more appropriate posed to the whole community on the Broly talk page), movie appearances are absolutely covered in the Manual of Style. Read it again and check out the section formatting to see how movies are included in articles. And again, please stick to the Broly talk page so all the discussion is in one place. Thanks. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:27, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
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I apologize. I'll take this to Broly Talk Page, then. [[User:ExyleCage|ExyleCage]] ([[User talk:ExyleCage|talk]]) 06:01, December 13, 2018 (UTC)
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== Series Switch ==
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Doesn't the anime of Super Dragon Ball Heroes still count as a series. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 20:58, December 16, 2018 (UTC)
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:No, it’s a non-televised mini-series. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:23, December 17, 2018 (UTC)
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== Abuse filter question ==
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Hi there! On recommendation of Jbour53 and Nef I figured I would message you. In the Jiren vs Broly topic I seem to be locked, but I am not sure why. The only abuse filters in the log are for editing, which I wasn't aware was against the rules. If that is the case, could you let me know? I might have missed it. Otherwise, I'm not sure where the offense was, and certainly it is not my intent to cause any grief! Thank you for your time. {{unsigned|Super Saiyan Amari}}
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:Thanks for reaching out. I have contacted VSTF and Helper [[user:Kopcap94]] to look into this. You can monitor our discussion on their talk page. Please feel free to add any info that might be helpful. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 05:04, December 21, 2018 (UTC)
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== Check this and the post i made above it out please ==
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[//dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Super_Saiyan_4#here_is_proof https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Super_Saiyan_4#here_is_proof]. [[User:FlatZone|FlatZone]] ([[User talk:FlatZone|talk]]) 00:00, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
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:Okay, I’ll check it out. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 08:49, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
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== Whats the deal ==
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So on the SS4 page, he has the proof and evidence, you want Nef to look at something that comes from an old Video Game that has wonky multipliers and powerlevels on it. Nef doesn't care apparently. So what gives with that? I think its all ridiculous to begin with considering the cross referenced information on SSGSS and LSS page, so why is it an issue on the SS4 page?? [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 20:34, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
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:I want Nef to do what? Can you please be specific, it sounds like you're halfway through a conversation with someone else. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:36, February 12, 2019 (UTC)
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::I suggested that since Nef was the one who added "According to [[Dragon Ball Z: Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha - Ora to Omee to Scouter]] Super Saiyan 4's power is ten times that of a Super Saiyan" we wait for him to weigh in, because no one else in the discussion has any proof to prove or disprove it, I already cleared up the whole Nef doesn't care apparently. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|00:55,2/13/2019}}
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Seems like content we should list either in video games or in power. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:48, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
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:It is listed in power but FlatZone was and still is saying that it is wrong and removed it and wants it removed all because of his cross-sourced math. {{User:Goku20/SigReal|15:07,2/16/2019}}
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== Dr. Brief ==
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Hello Kamehameha, I have a question: in the article about [[Dr. Brief]], it says that he has been shown to “be able to design, invent, fix, alter or manipulate, and engineer almost anything”, and I’ve been wondering: does the alter part mean he can modify anything according to what he desires and the manipulate part mean he can hack any device, computer, machine, etc.? Because if so, shouldn’t the article instead say that he has been “shown to be able to design, invent, fix, modify or hack, and engineer almost anything”? I mean, the alter and manipulate part could both be mistaken for something more supernatural, you know. --[[User:YarinzianDragonKing|Chris Urena]] ([[User talk:YarinzianDragonKing|talk]]) 17:22, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
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:Sure, clarification in wording is welcome here. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:40, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
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==Site Navigation issue==
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There is a problem with the site navigation tab for the Universe Survival Saga. The number "99" is replaced with the title of the episode. It's not that big of a deal but I just wanted to inform you of the issue, since you might be able to fix it.
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[[User:Lpsmart0|Lpsmart0]] ([[User talk:Lpsmart0|talk]]) 21:43, February 24, 2019 (UTC) 
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:I fixed it. [[User:DragonEmeperor|DragonEmeperor]] ([[User talk:DragonEmeperor|talk]]) 22:08, February 24, 2019 (UTC)
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::Thanks both of you, for highlighting and swiftly resolving this issue. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 04:42, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
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==Written of Dragon Ball GT==
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So 10X the question, the anime Dragon Ball GT was written by Akira Toriyama or by the person of Toei Animation? [[User:BabyKratosxZeus|BabyKratosxZeus]] ([[User talk:BabyKratosxZeus|talk]]) 20:45, March 13, 2019 (UTC)
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:Like all anime shows, a team created it. No one person can do it all. Toriyama was involved as a key contributor. For more details, click here: [//dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT#Toriyama.27s_involvement_and_canon_debate https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT#Toriyama.27s_involvement_and_canon_debate] {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:27, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
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==Rollback==
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I was thinking if I could get rollback rights ? --[[User:Mgdodl|Mgdodl]] ([[User talk:Mgdodl|talk]]) 23:46, March 26, 2019 (UTC)
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:Why would you like Rollback rights? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 23:32, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
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To combat vandalism better. --[[User:Mgdodl|Mgdodl]] ([[User talk:Mgdodl|talk]]) 05:12, April 1, 2019 (UTC)
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Sounds good. I’ll add you as Rollback. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 20:47, April 5, 2019 (UTC)
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== Character name ==
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Yo, should we use the old dub name or current dub name for things? For example [[Daikaioh]] was originally referred to as such, but is nowadays called Grand Supreme Kai. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 21:34, April 19, 2019 (UTC)
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:Can you clarify what you mean by “old” and “new”? Which dubs? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:52, April 20, 2019 (UTC)
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Original Funimation (Daikaioh) and DB Kai (Grand Supreme Kai). --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:58, April 20, 2019 (UTC)
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:In that example, I’d think the English is easier for readers to understand. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:17, May 1, 2019 (UTC)
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Alright, thanks. So I guess if we have two official english names, but one is properly in english, that one is preferable. Perhaps we should note this in the MoS' naming scheme? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 22:59, May 1, 2019 (UTC)
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:Ok. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 07:48, May 2, 2019 (UTC)
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==MaxxyFaxxy==
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Can you block this user, [[User:MaxxyFaxxy|MaxxyFaxxy]], for messing around with the Jiren page and even moved Jiren’s name to Grosstooth. Can you lock it to where no one can move or rename the page and can you delete this page [[Grosstooth]]. Thanks. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 18:09, May 16, 2019 (UTC))
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:Thank you for reporting this. Bullza took care of it. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:42, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
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No problem. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 05:56, May 23, 2019 (UTC))
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== Fandom Wiki Manager ==
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Hey 10X Kamehameha! My name is HighJewElfKing, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for Dragon Ball Wiki. My job is to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff. If you ever got a question or issue relating to the wiki, editing, etc., please contact me on my message wall and I'll do my best to help you out! :) [[User:HighJewElfKing|HighJewElfKing]] ([[User talk:HighJewElfKing|talk]]) 18:23, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
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It turns out this wiki falls under the anime vertical not movies and TV, so you guys will have a wiki manager however it won't be me as I work in the movies and TV vertical. Thanks for the understanding :) [[User:HighJewElfKing|HighJewElfKing]] ([[User talk:HighJewElfKing|talk]]) 22:27, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
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:Okay, thanks for checking in. We’re looking forward to having a liaison. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:44, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
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==Conrads99==
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10X Kamehameha wave I need your help, I was a Admin on the Samurai Eight wikia page until Meshack (Same one who is banned on this wikia) removed my rights and a consensus he did not agree on, going so far as deleting the Poll and all the votes of how the community was in favour for the consenus.
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Which pronunciation should we be using on the Wikia?
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1. Japanese pronunciation as "Manga", "Anime", "Mangaka" and so on... (Had 10 votes)
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2. English pronunciation as "Comic", "Animation", "Comic Artist" and so on... (Had 2 votes)
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I screen shot the poll last night knowing he would do something like this.
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But what i am asking is for the complete support on your behalf and others so that you can help me demote him from the wikia, as he is currently The Founder and Bureaucrat and is blocking all my advances.
   
:Alright, why don't you get a reference and add it to the article's body then. Also, please sign your posts. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 18:53, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
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Consensus link (https://samurai8.fandom.com/f/p/3100000000000000069)
   
== Uub; Buu link ==
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Regards Conrads99 [[User:Conrads99|Conrads99]] ([[User talk:Conrads99|talk]])
Sigh, here we go again. Why did you undo my edit on the Uub article? "Fat Boo" sounds weird and inconsistent with the names of the characters. He is Majin Buu so why not have the link say "Majin Buu"? not "Fat Boo" which sounds more Japanese and incorrect.
 
([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 00:17, December 7, 2009 (UTC))
 
   
:It's the same deal as last time- your edit was meaningless, and it added line breaks, meaning the only result of your edit was making the article worse. The link was to a redirect, and was not something that physically appeared on the article, just in the background code, so it was the same either way. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:01, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
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:Hello Conrads99. I don’t have an opinion on how a different Wikia should be run, but consensus is a good way to decide things. Note that a poll, otherwise known as a vote, is not the same as a consensus. Whereas in a consensus everyone reaches an agreement after discussing the issue, a vote just says where more people stand before really considering each other’s points.
   
Fine. I guess my edits are always wrong from now on. "Fat Boo" it is! Sorry for the trouble. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]])
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:Meshack has been blocked here 8 times with increasing durations, and currently has an infinite block here. If you bring your case to Fandom staff, the only people who can probably help you, they can read the block logs here on DB Wiki to see descriptions of why we were forced to repeatedly block Meshack. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:14, May 27, 2019 (UTC)
Also for the Dragon Box article its ok I guess. Also on the Funimation Dragon Box article there is a quality difference image. Just thought you should know since you said you don't add quality comparisons. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 02:03, December 7, 2009 (UTC))
 
   
:You shouldn't get so down on yourself, you're just still learning the proper editing format, which is alright. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:55, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
== Proposed page deletion ==
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Thanks for getting back to me, I'm still waiting on the Wiki stuff to get involved.
   
10X Kamehameha, I have a doubt. I noticed [[User:Goku Hates Piccolo|Goku Hates Piccolo]] creating a page, which, not only is badly written, it also has nothing to do with this wiki and has a video on it. Since I think that videos are forbidden in this wiki, I propose the mentioned's page deletion. Here's the page I'm talking about: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku_doesnt_know_what_a_baby_is . The article has already been deleted by [[User:SSJ2AJB|SSJ2AJB]]. Sorry for the troubling I may have caused. Anyways, since we're on this situation, I must ask. If I see a video on some page, should I just go and delete it or talk with moderators/administrators first? [[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]][[User:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue">Vegeta - San</font>]][[User talk:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Talk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Contrib</font>]][[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]] 22:41, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
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But yeah from what i've read on here for what he has done he is doing the exact same thing on Samurai 8 the only problem he is a Bureaucrat and Founder and is using that to do the community over and even when we call him out and show that he was wrong he did a few edits to make it seem like he was always following the consensus and is trying to bluff us.
   
:You haven't caused any trouble, thank you for bringing this up, though it looks like the page is presently deleted. Videos are not allowed in articles, so if you see one then definitely take it down, no need to ask for perimission. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:10, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
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I've taken screen shots form stuff he has done and verbal stuff he has wrote to us claiming that because he is the founder he has final say. which is just ludicrous as all wikis are a community say especially when the wikia is so small and only consist of a hand fall of editors.
   
== Saiyan Hybrids ==
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If your interested in reading what his comes backs were ill leave a link here (https://samurai8.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Munchvtec/Demotion_of_Meshack_from_all_sysop_rights)
   
Almost half the section on Hybrids on the [[Saiyans]] Page is speculation on whether or not they have a greater potential. I don't see why that last part was deleted while the rest was left alone?
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Regards Conrads99 [[User:Conrads99|Conrads99]] ([[User talk:Conrads99|talk]])
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 21:28, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:The bit about Yamcha and Krillin's rate of aging is speculation. Yamcha continued to train later in life. Maybe he dyed his hair too, who knows? Maybe Krillin's genes lead to an older look at a younger age. Without this knowledge, guessing at what age their bodies act like (if that is even something we can talk about) is pointless. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:00, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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== Cooler stuff ==
   
Well then that entire paragraph is pure speculation and need to be removed
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Just as proof in case it's needed :)
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 22:44, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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[[User:Jim Logan|Pour me a glass, bub.]] ([[User talk:Jim Logan|talk]]) 15:46, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
   
:It is not speculation to state observed facts. What you said ''was'' speculation because you are guessing at some sort of unquantifiable, unknowable age quality that is never directly observed, at least not in the example which comprised your edit. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:22, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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The observed fact was Krillin aged while Yamcha did not
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:Oh okay, he says he respects Goku. That’s also MetaCooler, not Cooler. In any case you don’t need to convince me, since anyone can edit the articles. Posting images like that with the statement can serve as a reference for readers. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 11:46, July 25, 2019 (UTC)
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 23:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
And most of that entire section is not observed fact, It's speculation. There is nothing factual about stating that Yamcha and Tien '''might''' not age because people with higher powerelevels '''might''' age slower than regular people. My edits were not adding any more speculation than was already there, merely providing more elaboration on what was already speculated.
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== +fix admin headline on main page. ==
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 23:44, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:If there is speculation on a page, that is by no means a justification for adding more. I'll take a look at the article. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:19, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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Hey mate, can you fix the admin header to appear on the right side of the main page on desktop mode; it cuts halfway, with the title area appearing on the bottom and splits the remainder on the other column. I didn't want to reformat the whole template, so if you can fix that would be great. I will be contributing further to the articles in the near future. Thank you for maintaining such an amazing look for our main page. I will be checking systematically to assist any way I can. Your fellow admin comrade, PrinceZarbon. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 20:13, August 9, 2019 (UTC)
   
I removed the information for the same reason the previous information was removed. It was speculation on whether or not the Hybrids have a naturally greater power potential than pure blood saiyans.
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:I’m glad to hear you’re becoming more active again!
[[User:Thunderbender18|Thunderbender18]] 03:54, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:From what I saw you removed many ''observed facts'', such as how Goten and Trunks became Super Saiyans at such a young age. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:22, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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:I’m not sure how it got cropped like that or how to fix it. The template itself and its use appear to be in working order. However somehow it’s not displaying correctly. Seems like Wikia may be focused on the mobile mode. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:07, August 10, 2019 (UTC)
   
== lol new ==
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== App ==
   
is this how u reply to messages? {{unsigned|LiberatorReborn}}
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Do you know anything about [[User talk:Neffyarious#Discussion 2|this]]? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:56, August 11, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Yup, just remember to sign your posts so I can tell it's from you. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:46, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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:Yes, Fandom created a DB Wiki app a while back to host the articles here in another format. Whatever edits happen here are mirrored there. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:17, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
   
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Do you know anything about the apparent edit button issue? If not I can look into it. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 20:19, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Super Saiyan Turles ==
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:No. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:00, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
Is it true that Turles came very close to destroying the earth and was close to becoming a Super Saiyan if he kept on eating more fruit from the tree of might and used his rage and hatered towards Goku to acheive the form? I am just asking this question because i heard that if Turles were to survive Goku's second spirit bomb and not be killed by him, meant that he could of had a chance to eat a few more fruits from the tree of might to increase his power level more higher and then unleash his rage as a final ingrdient to gain the Super Saiyan form. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.4.55|96.232.4.55]] 20:09, December 11, 2009 (UTC)).
 
:Maybe, or maybe not. This is all speculation, so whether or not it's true is really up in the air. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:09, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
== What If Super Saiyans ==
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== DBZ Characters ==
Do you think in future Dragonball z games will have what if Super Saiyan forms for saiyans that never reached any super saiyan forms at all in the series, such as Bardock, Radtiz, Nappa, Turles, King Vegeta, Paragus, Tora, Fasha, Borgos, Shugesh and Tarble? The reason why i am asking this question is because, since Dragonball raging blast features What If Super Saiyan 3 forms for Broly and Vegeta even though they never reached Super Saiyan 3 in the series, dose this mean that when they make more future dragonball z games they are going to feature more What if Super Saiyan forms for the other Saiyans that never reached any Super Saiyan forms such as the ones i listed above. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.4.55|96.232.4.55]] 22:45, December 11, 2009 (UTC)).
 
:I'm a fan of the Super Saiyan transformations, so I hope so, but probably not. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:04, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
== Radtiz and Nappa going Super Saiyan ==
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Characters from DBZ films and DBFZ are in the DBZ Characters section and they should be in separate categories like Dragon Ball film characters and Dragon Ball video game characters.
If Radtiz and Nappa weren't killed very early in the Dragonball z series and lived longer do you think they would be able to reach Super Saiyan? Can you please describe to me or at least supply some dragonball af pictures of Radtiz and Nappa as Super Saiyans so that way i can know how they would like like if they were to ever become Super Saiyans. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.4.55|96.232.4.55]] 00:49, December 12, 2009 (UTC)).
 
   
:I want to start by specifying that this site does not recognize Dragon Ball AF as official material, and we do not allow any Dragon Ball fan fiction or fan art in articles. However, on user's user pages, things like fan art and personal opinions are okay. That being said, I see no reason not to post the images you are requesting, though, once again, they are unofficial, and they are fan art. Enjoy the pics! : ) {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 09:18, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
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Sincerely, you-know-who-62.
[[Image:Super_Saiyan_Raditz_by_dbzataricommunity.jpg|125px|Fan art of Super Saiyan Raditz.]][[image:SSNappa.png|175px|right|Fan art of Super Saiyan Nappa.]]
 
   
Sorry for "butting" in the conversation, but there's an interesting thing about Nappa "going" Super Saiyan in Budokai Tenkaichi 3. In Duel mode, if you wait for a while (without touching any button), Nappa will ask this to Vegeta: "Hey uh... Think if I went Super Saiyan, my goatee would grow?". What do I want to get with this? Simple. Toriyama created Nappa and Raditz in a time were he didn't even had thought about the Super Saiyan concept he would later use. [[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]][[User:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue">Vegeta - San</font>]][[User talk:Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Talk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Vegeta - San|<font color="#ff0000" style="background:blue"> Contrib</font>]][[File:Vegeta_Morning.jpg|26px]] 12:32, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
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:DBZ films are DBZ. Except DBZ Super films, but some people would even say they are too. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:22, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
   
:How come Radtiz and Nappa can't reach Super Saiyan in the series? Do you think Radtiz and Nappa will ever reach Super Saiyan at all in there lifetime? ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.149.34|96.232.149.34]] 15:44, December 12, 2009 (UTC)).
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== Wiki Manager ==
   
...They died. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 16:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
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Hey, as you'll recall a while back [[User:HighJewElfKing|HighJewElfKing]] messaged the DB wiki admins to [[User talk:10X Kamehameha#Fandom Wiki Manager|tell us he would be acting as our Wiki Manager]], but then got back to say we'd have someone else. Well I'm the one who ended up with the task of Wiki Manager for Dragon Ball wiki, so I'll fulfill the role he outlined in his message along with my already existing duties. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 16:57, August 18, 2019 (UTC)
   
HA [[User:Beefy1223|Beefy1223]] 17:06, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
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On a separate note, Sosuagwu17 brought it to my attention that [[User:Shakuran13|Shakuran13]] should be listed on the admin page as retired, since he has not been active for over 9 months. Would you like to adjust the admin page or do you not mind if I do it? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 21:19, August 22, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Goku 1 ==
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:Go ahead. What does a Wiki manager do? How are they selected? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:05, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
Please delete the Goku 1 page.
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I'm not entirely sure of what the selection process was for Wiki Managers. My role as Wiki Manager on DB Wiki is basically to act as a point of contact between the wiki's community and full-time Fandom staff members, and also to help the wiki improve. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 10:44, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Why did you remove.... ==
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==Luffy1234512345==
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After leaving him a warning for vandalizing a few articles in his talkpage, this user had vandalized my user profile and personally insulted me using profanity. [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/User:Sosuagwu17?diff=prev&oldid=1844530] [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/User:Sosuagwu17?diff=next&oldid=1844530] ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 02:45, August 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
I understand the strongest incarnation of Buu part, but why the Goku can be considered the one who killed Majin Buu part? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 01:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
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:I blocked him for 2 weeks. Thanks for letting us know. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 10:56, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
   
Sorry if this puts you in a difficult position, but have I come off as annoying recently? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 01:50, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
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Okay ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 13:43, August 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
:No, you're not annoying at all, don't worry about it. It's already on the Goku page that Goku kills kid Buu. Majin Buu never dies, as he ends up permanently merging with Uub. I don't know what you mean by Goku killing Majin Buu, but it doesn't seem to make sense. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:24, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
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hi. so i edited the bit in Gine's page yet it didn't seem to stick as having been edited despite the fact i clicked Publish. Gine's not Turles' mom and even in her history it says her kids are Raditz and Goku.
   
Oh, ok, I didn't see that :P --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 00:27, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
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in that point actually in Turles' page Goku's' entire family are listed as his relatives which isn't proven to be canonically true but rather something stated as a Dubism and never confirmed by Akira Toriyama. Also, Goku Jr is stated to be from an alternate timeline as GTis non-canon.
   
I meant Kid Buu sorry --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
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A few people have seemingly tried to fix the Turles' page stuff but can't? myself included.
   
==Re: Hey==
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Should it be noted that Gine's hairstyle is an option in dragonball Xenoverse 2 which makes it possible to create Gine out of the custom time patroler?that fact is listed in Bulla's profile and Gine's shared fact is referenced but its not in her actual page.
Hey, 10X Kamehameha. The reason I protected my talk page is that some unregistered user kept vandalizing it along with a few other talk pages a few weeks ago. He kept abusing multiple accounts and I've had to block him about five times. It was really annoying. I was so busy with everything else is that I forgot about unprotecting my talk page. I'll stop the talk page protection.
 
   
About the duplicate image on the Golden Great Ape page, sorry that I didn't take long enough look to remeber the original image. Since it's hard looking for the original image, you think either of us should restore the duplicate so the original image would pop back up? Then, once we use the original for the Golden Great Ape page, we can delete the duplicate image. {{User:SSJ2AJB/sig}}
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:Please sign your posts. Did you get any error message when this happened? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:25, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Yah sure I'll try that. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:39, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
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== my edits and some others have pointed out. ==
   
==Super Saiyan 2 Goku==
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Hi, ok i think i did my first submisison to your wall thing wrong but lets try again.
Was it possible for Goku to reach Super Saiyan 2 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber while training with Gohan in the Cell Saga. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.154.18|96.232.154.18]] 02:34, December 19, 2009 (UTC)).
 
   
:Maybe, it's a little ambiguous. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:52, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
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Gine's page was edited by me and you took notice of it yet the edit didn't seem to stick and I'm not sure why. this is in relation to Gine's page as well as that of her family members. Turles is not Gine's son as in every literature and media she herself is mentioned in she has 2 sons, Raditz and Goku. Everything that lists Turles as goku's brother are Dubisms and its never been proven as a fact or stated as such by Akira Toriyama.
   
According to the Daizenshuu it states that Goku could of reached Super Saiyan 2 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber while training with Gohan if he trained hard enough, but chose to focus more on Gohan by training him greatly to the point where he could go Super Saiyan 2 himself. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.154.18|96.232.154.18]] 03:22, December 19, 2009 (UTC)).
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Should we add in that Gine's hairstyle is an option in Xenoverse 2 and thus it is possible to create her out of your custom character just as it is with Bulla-Bra? Gine's possible creation out of th ecustom is listed in Bulla's page but not in her own.
   
:Then that must be what they think is the case. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:38, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
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Goku Jr is also from an alternate universe as GTis not canon.
   
So since that might be the case, care to feel free to add this to the trivia of the Super Saiyan 2 article? ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.146.57|96.232.146.57]] 15:00, December 19, 2009 (UTC)).
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(CharmcasterX)
   
:No, do not add speculation or thinks that "might" be true to articles. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:10, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
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:Thanks for signing your post. Please read our stance on canon. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:27, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
   
== I made a page! ==
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== Citation corps ==
   
I'm the guy who you told to make a page a month back, and look! I have made a page! I pose on your page now! *poses* Recoome shall spread DBZ to the world! EruditeRecoome Out!
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I see back in the day DB wiki had a [[Dragon Ball wiki:Citation Corps|citation corps]], should we try bringing it back? Or is it better to archive it and remove it's category? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:35, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
   
== FS and GNU? ==
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:I think it’s worth having. We need more references to get up to best practices. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:29, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
   
Hey I talked to PrinceZarbon about the FS and GNU sections on the menu and he has no idea how it got there. He wanted me to alert other admins so that it could be fixed back to the way it was. [[User:The Original Super Sayain|The Original Super Sayain]] 19:32, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
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Well, well if it isnt 10x been a long time man. You still running the wiki i see. Whats been up? --[[File:VegitoSS.png|40px]][[file:Vegito_SSJ4.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:SSJ4_Vegeta.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:Goku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpg|40px|bottom]][[User:supremegogeta|<font color="red" style="background:black">Supreme</font>]][[User_talk:supremegogeta|<font color="red" style="background:black">gogeta</font>]][[file:Goku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Vegito.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:Ss4goku_anime.jpg|40px|bottom]][[file:Ss4GOGETA.jpg|40px|bottom]][[File:Gogeta photo.jpg|25px]] 11:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Dropping by ==
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:Eh, same old. Yourself? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:29, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
   
How are you 10X Kamehameha? I just wanted to drop in and see how things are going. I should be more actively on the Wiki again by the start of January, I'm looking forward to having time once again. Talk to you later, Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, whatever it is you'd prefer haha. {{User:SSJGoku93/sig}} 01:36, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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== New admin? ==
   
:Thanks dude, have a good one. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:50, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Our admin body is pretty good at the moment, but I believe that [[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu]] would be a valuable asset to our team; he already knows how to follow admin procedure (giving warnings etc), checks most edits, has been implementing licensing on images, treats other users fairly and always reports to an admin when something is wrong. Additionally, he tends to be on the wiki at times when there are no admins available. What do you think? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 11:18, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Template ==
 
   
Yeah, Zarbon said i could --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 04:33, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
:I can't find that on his or your talk page, could you tell me where he said that? I'll re-add the template back if you can provide proof. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:36, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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I agree. It would be very helpful for him to have admin privalges. It would also give us more time to focus on the other areas of the wiki. [[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 00:01, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
:Additionally, do not call users idiots. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:37, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Yeah I'd support that, I already gave him rollback privileges a bit ago. He also seems to be on at a time when some admins aren't and it's good to have at least one admin around at any point in the day.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 04:53, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
It Was on MSN.And, that anonymous IP said that Android 19 was a racist caricature because he is white and fat...--[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 04:41, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Certainly not a good idea. He acts like '''DragonEmeperor''' reverting back most of the edits other users do. A problem that, as once stated, might make users stop editing here. No one will be able to anything and if it gets to his head, the person might even get blocked unfairly.
   
:Alright, I'll just ask him here to make sure. Once again, I'll re-add them all if that's the case. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:05, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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I mostly take care of Dragon Ball Online and Heroes stuff here, as long as he keeps away from my edits (that not many here knows about it, to be honest), then we won't have a problem. But this should really be taken into consideration. [[User:Bargeta|Bargeta]] ([[User talk:Bargeta|talk]]) 15:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
PZ just told me that he told you not to add anything Neko Majin related to DB articles. Please do not do so in the future. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:33, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Thats funny, I thought Bargeta was Rogeta's sock puppet account, he even told me he had one before months ago in tournament chat.. [[User:FlatZone|FlatZone]] ([[User talk:FlatZone|talk]]) 16:27, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Immortals category ==
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:There are similarities with DragonEmeperor but he does at least explain himself. My concern with him becoming a Mod when he mentioned it was that he'd be too quick to block people. I don't know if that would problem here but he could always leave it for other Admims to deal with at first while he warmed into it.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 18:11, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
I had told Silver to remove that category as androids are not immortals. And not worth having an entire category for 1 or 2 characters. Allow him to remove it from the articles. Thanks in advance mate. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 06:43, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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I agree that we should let him getting into the Dragon Ball Wiki administration as its newest member, after all he is a good user, but I think we should take into account certain trends that may resemble DragonEmeperor's ones and let him try to correct them, as stated above.
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{{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 22:48, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
:I mean we have Roshi, Immortal Phoenix, Yemma, Popo, Garlic Jr., just off the top of my head. There's also the demon characters from hell and people like Debura. I think that even without the androids there are plenty enough characters to keep the category. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:48, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:Sounds like everyone is agreed to add him as a new admin. Bullza, can you take care of changing his rights and updating the site admin pages? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:47, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
   
::No. None of those people are immortals. They "can" be killed. An immortal is someone who cannot be killed. This was discussed prior and we don't need the category. I'm extremely against it because the definition of an immortal is someone who cannot be killed. Master Roshi can be killed, for example. He is not an immortal. The only actual immortal is Garlic Junior due to his immortality. Yemma and Popo don't die in the series, but that isn't to assume that they can't be killed, they more than likely can. We can't assume anything. Therefore, no category. - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 06:56, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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I can handle it if you like. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 12:54, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
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:Thank you for considering me for adminship. I honestly didn't think I would be an admin this soon or even become one but thank you. I will do my best to handle my duties here as an admin in this wiki and ensure situations are handled properly and fairly here. You can count on me. I won't let you guys down as we are all a community. Don't worry, I definitely will be fair to other users and change certain part of my actions that may resemble DragonEmeperor's bad ones so people can feel like they can contribute here because this wiki needs contributors to help grow this wiki so I accept any contributions as long as it is good. I've said it once and I will say it again thank you for considering me for adminship and I will do my best as an admin here. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 14:12, October 4, 2019 (UTC))
   
:Immortals means they can't be killed. peroid. --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 07:15, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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== Discord ==
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Has there been any progress in regards to Final Chidori's proposal to create a Discord server for this wiki? I left the Spanish Dragon Ball Wiki administration a few months ago, but I still manage the Discord server of that community (in fact, Final Chidori joined that server), so I'd like to know.
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{{User:YonedgeHp/sig}} 22:53, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
No it doesn't. Period.
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:I’m not aware of any progress there. Isn’t Discord for gamers? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:45, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
   
Please come up with something meaningful if you want to talk about this too. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:19, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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These days most wikis use discords for communication, if we set up one for the DB wiki we would need to select admins for it (they would not necessarily have to be the same ones for the wiki). I can look into getting us a discord if it's something that would be beneficial here. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 12:59, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
   
:I love everyone here (well most, not the vandalizers, lol) Thanks for correcting it by the way, 10x. I hold you in great esteem. I don't even need to tell you that, you know it. Love ya mate. ^_~ - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 07:52, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:I’m personally against it. It would be challenging to monitor and moderate an entirely external website. We seem to have all the editing and social tools we need here already. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:52, October 6, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Category ==
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== Opinion ==
   
You're welcome. since i'm not sure about others, i'm going to quit while im ahead.assuming im ahead that is.--[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 08:28, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Can I get your input on [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Wiki_talk:Manual_of_Style#Moving_the_Dragon_Ball_Heroes_info this]? - [[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 20:37, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Remaking Super Saiyan 2 ==
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:Done. It was good judgment to keep moving ahead when you didn’t hear from me for a couple days. You’re doing an outstanding job as a bureaucrat. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 15:44, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
   
Are they ever going to remake Gohan's, Goku's and Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 forms by changing their hairstyle's a little bit and adding the electricity in their aura's more constantly and frequent without the electric sparks having to dissapear from the aura occasionaly in their bodies? The reason why i am asking this question is because alot of fans are having trouble trying to distinguish the differances from a Super Saiyan to a Super Saiyan 2, since those two forms are very similar in appearance due to not having that many physical changes which is why alot of fans often keep on mistaking a Super Saiyan 2 from a Super Saiyan. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.15.103|96.232.15.103]] 05:23, December 24, 2009 (UTC)).
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Well thank you, I'm trying to find ways to make improvements big and small all the time if possible.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 19:05, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
   
:No, I can't imagine anyone remaking their looks. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:48, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
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== Pride Gene and Honour Gene ==
   
== Happy Holidays ==
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Hi, I just had a quick question I am looking into the origins of some terms that you posted or I think you posted under the name SupremeBooyah. It's in the following forum posting area of this wiki(https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Super_saiyan_3_vegeta%3F) In it you or well I assume it is you say the following quote " It's because of the gene's. The reason Vegeta could'nt go SSJ3 is because Goku is a Honour Gene. Honour Gene's can go SSJ3. However, Vegeta wasn't a Honour, instead he is a Pride Gene. Pride Gene's can only go SSJ, ASSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, and SSJ4. vegeta is garbage....several times he fight somebody he says im the prince of saiyans and gets his ass kicked look at the broly movie took him like 20 seconds to get knocked out" With that said assuming this was you where did you find the terms "Pride Gene" and "Honour Gene"? I have looked at every interview and guide that I could find and nowhere is it stated that "Pride Genes" and or "Honour Genes" are a thing. Is this something you made up or maybe confused from some fan made creation? If this was not you that posted it could you point me to the correct user who did so I can ask them if they know. Thank you for your time and I appreciate any info you provide.[[User:Matchstckgmr|Matchstckgmr]] ([[User talk:Matchstckgmr|talk]]) 12:58, November 3, 2019 (UTC)
   
Just wanted to wish you all the best and a happy new year dear comrade. ^_^ - {{User:PrinceZarbon/sig}} 01:00, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
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:This is my account, that is a different user. You said his name in the post. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 14:53, November 3, 2019 (UTC)
:Thanks buddy, you too. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:35, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
== Goku ==
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Thank you I misread something on the other guy's profile that lead me to believe it was an alternative account and that you were redirecting people to this one to ask questions to sorry. Thank you for your time I hope the person in question that I am trying to contact over this matter gets back to me soon.[[User:Matchstckgmr|Matchstckgmr]] ([[User talk:Matchstckgmr|talk]]) 03:28, November 4, 2019 (UTC)
   
How did goku exactly achieve Super Saiyan 2 in the anime series? ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.0.190|96.232.0.190]] 04:14, December 25, 2009 (UTC)).
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:No problem. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 02:55, November 14, 2019 (UTC)
:He trains really hard while he's dead after the Cell Saga. Unfortunately the precise moment is not detailed. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:36, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
In the anime series Goku never stated that he reached Super Saiyan 2 in the OtherWorld, he only stated that he reached Super Saiyan 3 in the OtherWorld. Also their are hints in the Daizenshuu and the New Super Exciting Guide character profiles stating that Goku actually reached Super Saiyan 2 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber while training with Gohan in the Cell Saga, but chose not to use the form in the Saga due to discovering that Gohan had reached Super Saiyan 2 first then him during their training and belevied that he had more power to defeat Cell. ([[Special:Contributions/96.232.2.22|96.232.2.22]] 15:24, December 25, 2009 (UTC)).
 
:You can believe whatever you like, just don't add "hints" from unofficial guides into the articles. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:44, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
==Response to that edit on my talk page==
 
Uh, dude, the reason I made edits of some certain articles was to correct faulty information and delete wrong preconceptions that needn't go on the articles, and you're the one erasing out everyone's edits with the excuse "Too much information for my tastes" or something along the lines, for a bunch of 10-word edits at the most. Things like editing out Piccolo's hearing taking no disasterous aftereffects of receiving Buu and Gotenks' tremendous shrills I can tolerate, though not understand, as it's a small snippet that has no real effect whether it goes or doesn't go on the main site, but what you're doing is basically searching through every edit I and numerous others make and act like the authority on what should or shouldn't go on articles with the same repetitive excuse was just overdoing it (especially erasing things like "at times though, Gohan's hair is identical to his base version," which you can clearly see in the manga and anime). If you were an administrator or law enforcer on the site I'd have nil reason to complain (it being your job to do so), but don't act as though your opinion has more sway over anyone else's and in short vadalize edits that everyone else makes unless you can offer up a decent reason for undoing edits (such as, "information about other characters shouldn't be on this article kthnxbai" or something along those lines). If you can, I'd be well willing to listen, thanks for your time.
 
   
Whatever IP address I'm using at the moment, as I don't feel obliged to log into my account solely for short messages
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==New Bureaucrat==
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Should Neff have bureaucrat rights here since he already has wiki manager rights and I figured if he is able to add or demote users globally on any wikia he is on with his wiki manager rights he might as well be considered a bureaucrat since he has demoted a few retired admins and bureaucrats a few months ago with his wiki manager rights and he is pretty much mainly active here. What are your thoughts? I personally believe that Neff should be a new bureaucrat here. So we would have 3 instead of 2 and Neff seems bureaucrat worthy to me. And also with his wiki manager rights he can technically promote himself as a bureaucrat here if he wants to but obviously he would probably need permission from you first. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 20:19, November 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
Also, I've been on the site on this site since January, so you shouldn't immediately assume that because I'm not logged in, that pegs me as a newbie.
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I appreciate you making this suggestion though I don't really mind either way, I'm actually leaning slightly more towards not being a bureaucrat as I feel it would not really make much of a difference (it would basically only be giving me permission to partake in bureaucrat-only decisions, which I could be involved in anyway if asked to pitch in by Bullza or 10X) so I'd say it may be better if someone else could eventually fill a position as third bureaucrat. Of course if 10X and Bullza agree I won't turn the role down. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 22:06, November 23, 2019 (UTC)
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:Yeah that’s what I mean so you can be involved in making bureaucrat decisions with the other bureaucrats or maybe making a decision by yourself as a bureaucrat without having to get permission or wait for the input of another bureaucrat regarding certain management of user rights since you already have the right to promote or demote users like bureaucrats can do with your wiki manager rights even though I know it wouldn’t make much of a difference even if you were promoted but I feel it is necessary for you to be labeled as bureaucrat so you wouldn’t be limited to waiting for another bureaucrat for certain management of user rights and you can basically make bureaucrat decisions by yourself. I feel like it’s time for you to be a bureaucrat considering how long you have been on this wiki and still remain active that I feel the need for a third bureaucrat which I feel you are the best choice considering you already have wiki manager and this is the only wiki you regularly edit on so why not be a bureaucrat here. Because if you are not labeled bureaucrat, you would still have to act as an admin here despite the fact you already have the right to promote users or demote users just like bureaucrats and if you were bureaucrat here it would slightly be more easier for you because you would get to now make bureaucrat decisions or duties without having to be limited to just admin duties here considering your wiki manager includes bureaucrat rights with the addition of allowing you to demote even bureaucrats which normal bureaucrats in a regular wiki bureaucrat can't and you are more active in here then 10X because even 10X doesn’t really regularly log on here and edits a few things before he is off for a few weeks and if one bureaucrat is not that active at least we would have too that are really active which would be you Neff and Bullza if you were made bureaucrat. It would really be handy if we have one bureaucrat that can demote other bureaucrats or sysops if they are inactive or even check user ip addresses for any sock puppetry ry since Neff can do it through his wiki manager rights. I even believe wiki managers are capable of blocking users globally for bad behavior in different wikias, whether vandalism, spamming, not being nice to other users or breaking rules in different wikias overall. Neff is technically a part time staff member so why not just keep him in charge of this wiki like Bullza and make him bureaucrat when you are not around or don’t have time to be on here regularly. I think it would be of some use for Neff to be made bureaucrat since he is regularly on here so that way we would have two active bureaucrats while we have one that is not that particularly active here. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 23:28, November 23, 2019 (UTC))
   
:I am indeed an administrator on this site, check out the main page. One of the major things is that if you make a huge several-thousand-character edit that makes changes to 20 paragraphs, and 5 of those are improper for some reason, it's too wrong to leave in, but there is also the good info to consider. Since we like to believe the articles are very nearly accurate, the choice to remove the bad changes outweighs the addition of something that only marginally adds to a paragraph, or fifteen paragraphs, etc.
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:Well obviously if anyone else was going to be made a bureaucrat then it could only be Neffyarious but if he doesn't really want to do it then like he said it doesn't really make much of a difference. The main thing between an admin and a bureaucrat is the ability to promote people right? And that doesn't happen that often. I think I've done it the once in a year and a half. Otherwise it's not a decision I'd ever make alone, I'd always ask for everyone else's opinion first because I see us all as equal in that regard so it's all the same anyway. Also if he's the wiki manager and has his own specific things to do then I wouldn't want to burden him with extra things when I can do it.
   
:Ideally, I would go through your very long edits and take out the bad and leave in the good but, with the responsibility of screening hundreds of edits a week, this is impossible. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, and would ask that you make smaller edits which would then be individually removable.
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:While on the subject though, I've removed a few chat moderator rights from users who haven't edited since 2016.[[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 00:41, November 24, 2019 (UTC)
   
:As for the repeated counts of swearing, both in general and directed at a fellow user (myself), I will be forced to temporarily block you. When the block expires, please consider all of what I have posted here, and especially the swearing (because you would never be blocked for format issues alone).
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I guess your right if Neff doesn’t want to be bureaucrat we can’t just force him to be one since he is already a wiki manager and it wouldn’t really make much of a difference but I thought it would be sufficient and useful for at least 2 active bureaucrats while 10X is out since 10X doesn’t regularly log on here and it might put a weight off you and 10X shoulders if we had Neff made a bureaucrat so Neff can make bureaucrat decision on promoting users with other bureaucrats, admins and regular without being limited to only acting as an admin here when he can act as a bureaucrat while here since he already has wiki manager rights that allows him to promote and demote users like bureaucrats and he might as well be made bureaucrat since he already has the right to promote or demote users. Neff just seems like the perfect fit as a new bureaucrat but like I said if it doesn’t make much of a difference for him then he doesn’t have to be bureaucrat which is fine even though he does agree that the need of a third bureaucrat might be okay and he wouldn’t mind joining in as the new bureaucrat if the bureaucrats agree to let him in as a new bureaucrat. Because what if 10X no longer edits here and becomes really inactive to the point of retirement then Neff may have to demote him and since Neff is on here regularly he might as well just be a bureaucrat here to supplement for 10X's partial inactivity. I think that Neff should join the team for currently active bureaucrats since 10X is not that active on here since he edits a few things before he is out for a few weeks despite being listed as active and I feel that the need for two currently and actually active bureaucrats would be necessary instead of just 1. So 10X can have two bureaucrats to help him watch over this wiki while he is out. This might be a good idea but I will wait on the thoughts from the other admins. ([[User:Sosuagwu17|Sosuagwu17]] ([[User talk:Sosuagwu17|talk]]) 02:44, November 24, 2019 (UTC))
   
:Also, please sign your posts to talk/discussion pages. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:08, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
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Just to be clear, being a bureaucrat would not be any sort of issue and would not be any sort of burden when paired with my manager rights. It's not that I don't want to do it, just that maybe it would be better to keep the space open for someone else to eventually take? We'll see what 10X says. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:52, November 24, 2019 (UTC)
   
== can you do this ==
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:All that is really required is 1 bureaucrat, and we already have 2. Neffyarious would most likely have input to admin promotions taking place here, so functionally I don’t see a benefit. BTW Bullza, some chat mods only chat and don’t edit, which I have always felt is okay. I know the retirement policy has always been editing-specific, but it may be worth an exception or modification for chat mods who never edited much or at all to begin with. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:26, November 25, 2019 (UTC)
   
can you delete my account here i then make a new account cause i was here first by accident
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==KATKATKATKATKAT==
User:Fgf2
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where does one piece fall on the scale of liking?[[User:KATKATKATKATKAT|KATKATKATKATKAT]] ([[User talk:KATKATKATKATKAT|talk]]) 23:33, December 8, 2019 (UTC)
   
:I unfortunately cannot, please direct your question to [[User:Nonoitall|Nonoitall]]. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:09, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
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:I like it, but less than DBZ. One Piece has a tendency to put a lot of episodes between major battles and events. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:14, December 10, 2019 (UTC)
   
== Question: DBGT Censored or No ==
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==Discord==
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Do we have a discord server? Also, I am the new discussions mod. Nice to meet ya
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[[User:DragonBallZ050|DragonBallZ050]] ([[User talk:DragonBallZ050|talk]]) 17:12, December 31, 2019 (UTC)
   
I was just wondering. Unlike DB and DBZ which are censored, can DBGT still be uncensored and uncut unlike their predecessors? {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}}17:21, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
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:Nice to meet you too. No we don’t. This Wiki has its own chat functions. We haven’t had a need for an external server to do the same functions we already have. What would the benefits be? {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:42, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
   
:I don't know what you mean, you you be more specific? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 20:29, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
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Mods could communicate easier and then we could also message each other
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[[User:DragonBallZ050|DragonBallZ050]] ([[User talk:DragonBallZ050|talk]]) 19:44, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
   
I mean to say was Dragon Ball GT was uncensored and unedited since their first release in America back in 2003. However, unlike Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, DBGT was dubbed by FUNimation cast themselves. {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}}21:52, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
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:Talk pages seem to work for us. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:42, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
== Goku article ==
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== Message wall ==
   
Sigh...why is it always you.?
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What do you think of switching from User talk pages to Message walls? --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 20:50, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
Anyway, about the Goku article the 5'8" reference may be incorrect because Dragon Ball Wiki itself says that Toriyama stated Goku's height as 5'7" and not 5'8". Next time I edit I will just take out the reference. Also I will try to find another image of Goku as a SS4, because that image is too small and although it sows his body it is in the other article. Vegeta has 2 SS4 images on his articles anyway so I don;t see the problem. If the image I find is a duplicate then I will use the one on here already.
 
([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 19:30, December 31, 2009 (UTC))
 
:It's perfectly fine for an image to be on multiple articles, in fact I bet 20 such images could easily be found. In any case, if you find an SS4 image of Goku that better shows the form, then replace it. Just don't replace it with a bad one. As for the height difference, do not change Goku's height unless you have a new, somehow more reliable reference than the one that's already there. Thanks and keep up the good work. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:52, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 
Excellent new SS4 image, that's exactly what I was talking about. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:58, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 
:Well thank you for the SS4 image. Also for Goku's height it is 5'7" because even Dragon Ball Wiki says Akira Toriyama stated Goku's height as 5'7" himself. Also if you search Goku's height on google it says its 5'7" for most of the links. I don't know which is more reliable, but I'm pretty sure the 5'8" is incorrect. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 01:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC))
 
You can't just say "so and so said something", you need to actually find a reputable site that has the exact quote. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 03:22, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
Ok then your contradicting most sources and Dragon Ball wiki because almost everyone says Goku's height is 5'7" (when compared to Vegeta's 5'3"). Just because someone put it as 5'8" with a reference doesn't make it automatically right. Akira Toriyama isn't just "someone". I'll try to look for his quote or statement, but I'm telliing you you really are incorrect on this issue and Goku is not 5'8". Dragon Ball Wiki itself even proves that in several of its articles. For example go to the Vegeta article and read the first paragh. ([[User:Banan14kab|Banan14kab]] 03:56, January 1, 2010 (UTC))
 
:I didn't say that that it is what I think is true, I'm simply telling you the rules, and enforcing them. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:03, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
Additionally, thank you for letting me know about the Vegeta article, I've corrected it. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:07, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Ahem! ==
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:Do you know of another Wikia that uses it as an example for me to look at? [[User:Bullza|Bullza]] ([[User talk:Bullza|talk]]) 20:55, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
Once again man, [[Goku's Wiener]] article is back. You told some dude to remove it weeks ago, But I'm ashamed to do so. {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}}15:55, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
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The Nanatsu no Taizai or My Hero Academia wikis are examples of a large anime-based wiki that use message wall. They are arguably more efficient than talk pages, for example: they stops edit conflicts on talk since multiple users can send messages at the same time, it also notifies anyone who is part of a discussion on the message wall. If we switch to it it will automatically archive our old talk pages. --[[User:Neffyarious|Neffyarious]] ([[User talk:Neffyarious|talk]]) 17:20, January 4, 2020 (UTC)
   
== Shin Budokai: Another Road ==
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:I prefer the standard talk page. It’s more customizable and lets user make it their own. There’s just a lot more info you can get from it and put into it, one of the great things about a Wiki in general. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:09, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
   
Why did you leave the images on? The pictures aren't covers of the game, they're pics of the previous entry --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 19:46, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
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== Minor update ==
:Oops, you're right. Could you please move them to the correct page? Thanks. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:32, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
Sure I'll try, though i don't know how to do it --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 00:37, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
:I took care of it. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:33, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
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It's been awhile since I've done anything on this site. Good to see things are still going on. Sorry for the sudden disappearance but I just couldn't manifest the energy or want to work with even a quarter of the enthusiam as I once did. I'm by no means asking for my old position, I still haven't accomplished the things I've wanted during the disappearance and I don't really want to go with the whole "touch and go" thing anymore. This is just an explanation that is owed to everyone what happened, a "hello once again" and a notice that I may be sometimes once more to edit a little and offer opinion incase anyone still cares for it. Any updates I should know about? I already know about the role change, thanks for that it'd be weird for someone to recieve an automated greeting from a dead admin.
   
Cool, sorry I couldn't be of any help --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:39, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
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Also one last thing. Has any one put into consideration changing the old character infobox images? Someone had mentioned how it's weird to use the older images when there's perfectly acceptable newer (and cleaner) versions of them in DB Super. For example, why still use the obviously old Goku one? I've seen at least one good substitue in DBS Broly. The one of Vegeta on Babidi's spaceship is also weird when there's been an obvious change in his character since then. If you haven't, something to consider. Happy 2020 man. — ''[[User:Anemicne|A]]'' <sup>([[User talk:Anemicne|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Anemicne|c]])</sup> 21:47, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
== Gohan article ==
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:It’s nice to hear from you and thanks for the note. It’s really up to you if you want to edit and how much. There’s no apology needed for times where you edit more or less. Thanks as always when you do edit : ) As for character infoboxes, I agree we should update some to make them more relevant to the majority of readers. We should handle it on a page-by-page basis. If there are good base form Goku images from Super then why not use one? But if lesser characters have the best images from older series it might make sense to leave theirs older. The biggest changes to an anime Wiki are capturing content from ongoing series, and we have that once again here! {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:17, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edits? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 12:55, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Partly because you removed true, relevant information, and partially because you lied about what your edit was doing. "Fixing grammar" is not the same as "removing info to support my opinion." I hope that you have not reverted my edit before asking why, but I will not be back until later tonight, so hopefully if you have, it will be fixed by then until we can discuss further. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 22:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 
No, no, I didn't remove it, I moved it to the Trivia section. I'll be sure to fix my edit summaries then --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:56, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Wait, why did you let the "Gohan surpassing Goku" part stand? On top of that you reverted the better sounding sentences. Why? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 02:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
You added 50-100 line breaks. Why don't you look over my latest edit to the Gohan page, and check out how many lines I removed by undoing your edit. You might be surprised by how many lines you added. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:14, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
Oh. I'm sorry about that. But still, letting the Gohan > Goku part stand in the trivia section? --{{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 19:49, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
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==signature==
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Could you make me a signature like yours please? Can it say DragonBallZ050 with an image of frieza? Thanks in advance! [[User:DragonBallZ050|DragonBallZ050 aka Joe Allen]] ([[User talk:DragonBallZ050|talk]]) 16:29, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
   
== Thanks ==
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:Try using the signatures creation instructions link at the top of this page, then let me know if you still need help. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:13, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
   
Thanks for seeing our point.i just do what i get told to do, hey if you dont mind,could you help me with something? --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 06:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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Hello, can I have one as well? I want it to say Yen and have a pic of Goku this one
:Maybe, what's up? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:43, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Sorry... ==
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[[User:BROLYEN53|Yen]] ([[User talk:BROLYEN53|talk]]) 00:35, January 13, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53
   
Did slight errors by mistakes. It happens... {{User:SilverPlaqueVII/sig}} 02:14, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
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Never mind I see the link sorry!
   
== Yo ==
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{{SUBST:User:BROLYEN53/sig2}} 13:22, January 13, 2020 (UTC)BROLYEN53[[File:Dragon-ball-super-broly-1146234-1280x0.jpeg|thumb]]
Thanks for the welcome. I came from the Final Fantasy Wiki, to help out this one, it's really messy! See ya! -- • '''[[User:Kyrel|Kyrel]]''' [[User talk:Kyrel|[Talk]]] 14:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I don't know what you mean by "messy", as the site is top of the line, save a few in-progress projects, but we appreciate any work you'd like to put it. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 08:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Heya ==
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:I’m glad it was helpful. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:13, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
Got MSN? --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 08:11, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Nope, sorry. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 08:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Darn.It makes our job more convenient.maybe you should make one.its made zarbon and my job easier. Besides that,you could discuss things with zarbon and i.well.not zarbon.cause i expect you know whats gonna happen to him.but.it could make our job easier.but.You dont have to ^-^ --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 08:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== My Message ==
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I cant do it. Can you make me one?DragonBallZ050 12:42, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
   
The Changing your sig was an accident.and.Im not sure if im allowed to tell you what zarbons doing [[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 05:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
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:Sure. What color font, what color background, and what Frieza picture? I can make any of those choices if you don’t have a preference. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 01:30, January 23, 2020 (UTC)
:Ummm ok, lol. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 05:54, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Gotenks ==
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Oven done it bowl, don’t worry. Do you like it. <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid Blue; background:red;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial black ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:Green;">Joe is here!</span><span style="color:#000080;"> </span><span style="color: #F0FFF0 ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:white;">Have any questions? Talk here at [[User talk:DragonBallZ050]]| Enjoy your stay!</span></sup> </span> 13:50, January 23, 2020 (UTC)
Didn't we not want any power comparisons? {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 22:57, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:We don't want people comparing power when there are no direct facts supporting the claims. Someone saying that Goku is stronger than Krillin however, if obviously not debatable in say, GT. It's tricky sometimes, but feel free to ask if you're ever unsure. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:24, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Move ==
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:Sweet. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:30, January 26, 2020 (UTC)
   
Nubescout just made a bunch of new pages,if you have time,can you move the pages. Because he hasnt capitalised the titles,so can you move them? [[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 00:34, January 17, 2010 (UTC).
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== Manual of Style ==
   
==DBZ Budokai Level Titles==
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Hey can you take a look at [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Wiki_talk:Manual_of_Style#Section_headers this] and tell me what you think? Thanks. <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid red; background:black;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial black ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:orange;">It is your local hero, Bullza!</span><span style="color:#000080;"> </span><span style="color: #F0FFF0 ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:orange;">Have any questions? Talk here at [[User talk:Bullza]]| Let me know</span></sup> </span> 17:31, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
Hey, 10X Kamehameha. As you may know a few days ago, Nubescout created several pages about the What-If levels in [[Dragon Ball Z: Budokai]] and also [[Dragon Ball: Raging Blast]]. I've noticed you've moved the articles about the level titles in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai to titles with better capitalization. However, I was playing Dragon Ball Z: Budokai the other day, and I was in Story Mode, most notably the Android Saga. There, I saw that the last two objective names were called, "Aim For Perfect Form!" and "A Cold-Blooded Assassin", including the exclamation point and dash respectively, along with the capitalization of every word in each title.
 
   
I've seen on the move log page that you've moved the "Funimation Dub" article and its talk page to "FUNimation Dub" and "Talk:FUNimation Dub," seeing as how the company writes it. Based on what you did, I was thinking we could do the same with the "Aim for Perfect Form"
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:Sure I’ll take a look. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 19:04, February 1, 2020 (UTC)
and "A Cold-blooded Assassin" pages. What I mean is that we should move the name of the articles to "Aim For Perfect Form!" and "A Cold-Blooded Assassin," because that is how they are written in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. Would you agree? {{User:SSJ2AJB/sig}}
 
   
:Yah, you're right. I ended up moving most of the level titles, since some of them were clearly pretty wrong, but if the game has it's own special Engrish (lol), then that's what we should use for the titles. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:16, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
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==Discussions Moderator==
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Hello, 10X Kamehameha!
   
== Thanks and, a Tip!!!!!!!! ==
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I am Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin and I have been a Discussions Moderator since December 29, 2019 and the first Mod of the newcomers. I came to ask if I could become a temporary Admin to oversee the Discussion Posts until [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/User:0551E80Y 0551E80Y] returns. I believe that I will be able to handle the responsibility, as I am an Admin on Weebipedia. I would only stick to the Discussion Posts and stay away from the Wiki, and if I must ban a user, I would always let the other Admins know whenever I have to do so. I always strive to keep this Fandom a safe and enjoyable place for everyone. If I am passed up, I completely understand. There are a fair number of people who have asked, I imagine. Thank you very much for your time, and have a blessed day! I have left a message regarding this on the Talk Pages the other Admins (Except for Prince Zarbon, since he said that he would be inactive), since this would be a joint decision between the Main Admins.
   
Thanks, Dude. Actually i See DBZ in cartoon Network India form the start, then i logged into this wikia from june. i saw your edits for a while... and now i actually have an advance knowdege and sense of DB Universe. thanks, again. and a tip ! when a page in the watchlist gets changed, a email says what you know, but if the email says like ''yo i am master roshi a page on your watchlist has been changed'' bla bla, it would be so fun! ill tell you how to--
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2/1/2020 <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid Blue; background:purple;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:lime;">Fenn is here!</span><span style="color:lime;"> </span><span style="color: lime ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:lime;">For help, message me here[[User talk:Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin]], Have a blessed day!</span></sup> </span> 04:10, February 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
1:go to http://dragonball.wikia.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Enotif_body
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:Sound like Bullza has it under control with the two other recent adds. Thank you for the offer but it looks like we’re set for now. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 13:54, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
   
2: go to the main article
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==Lucas005m==
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hey sorry to bother i made an edit in this page (
   
3: change the article! (Everyone will recieve the same way)
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https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Warriors_of_Earth_Assemble) because the date of release is wrong, it says january of 2019 but it is 2020. and it was changed back. did i do something wrong? 
   
Hope you liked! thanks again for the great DB wiki! ill be logging in till march end, then ill go to hostel and will log in only in annual 3 month holidays.
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[[User:Lucas005m|Lucas005m]] ([[User talk:Lucas005m|talk]]) 14:30, February 18, 2020 (UTC)
   
[[User:Son Vegeta|Son Vegeta]] 16:27, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
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I took a look and it seems the issue was that even though you corrected the date, you did take out the translated title and next lines out of the infobox. They weren't filled out at the time but they need to stay there for when they are used. <span style="border-radius: 20px 20px 20px ; border: 5px solid red; background:black;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial black ; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px black; font-size: 105%;"><span style="color:orange;">It is your local hero, Bullza!</span><span style="color:#000080;"> </span><span style="color: #F0FFF0 ;"> </span> </span> <sup><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family:arial; text-shadow: 2px 2px 2px black; color:orange;">Have any questions? Talk here at [[User talk:Bullza]]| Let me know</span></sup> </span> 00:52, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
   
:You might be better off asking someone like [[User:Nonoitall|Nonoitall]] for important format changes like that. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:09, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
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:Looks like Bullza sorted things out. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 12:46, March 2, 2020 (UTC)
   
== Android 18 page ==
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== Chat Function Conversation ==
You keep vandalizing the Android 18 page by posting information that has no evidence to back it up. #17 and #18 are TWINS. How could Dr. Gero make them into twins? That's nonsense. And if #18 possessed a sense of right and wrong, she wouldn't have stolen the two outfits, blew up a forest, attacked the police, sent a police car flying into a mountain, and trashed Goku's house. Stop posting such controversial nonsense.
 
:They were altered dramatically and could have been changed in any way. For instance, I could build two robots, and program them to say that they are twins, but the parts I used would obviously not have been "twins" beforehand. In addition, doing some evil things but feeling remorse afterward shows a clear sense of right and wrong. Finally, do not alter the page again without consensus, I have little tolerance for continued vandalism and edit warring. Keep in mind that consensus is need to ''change'' an article, not to keep it the same. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:02, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Video games ==
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Hey 10X! Hope you're doing well. I remember from our initial conversation back in 2018 you were against getting a community Discord server. I'd appreciate your perspective on that [https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Discord_Server here] when you get the chance. Thanks! —{{User:Final_Chidori/sigx}} 19:35, April 3, 2020 (UTC)
   
Well if im just gonna ignore the tertiary thing. it MAY not ruin this wiki for me if we can make it cleaner.somehow. if i left the wiki id have nothing to do,except make videos^_^. Point taken however. I Just bought Attack of the Saiyans, and i just finished Origins, so i'm gonna be writing on articles to do with those for a while.Oh, bye the way, zarbon's away on personal bussiness (I think he doesnt want me to give away details about his life), but he should be back fully editing within the week --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 10:38, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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:Okay, I’ll take a look. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 16:31, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
:Oh cool, I wish I had more time for video games and such, but school takes up a lot of my time. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 10:40, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Main Page- latest news ==
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== Meshack ==
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I received a message from Meshack earlier asking if he could be allowed to return. He currently has an infinite ban and that was put into place four years ago. I asked if he'd learned from his mistakes (he hasn't got back to me yet) but if he promises to behave himself this time around then would you be alright with him returning until and if he made the same mistake again? I'm asking because you were he one to give him that infinite ban in the first place.
   
Hey, which one of the mods edits the Latest new section of the front page? Cause, if you, or they could edit it, could you add something about the passing of Daisuke Gori? --[[User:Silver Sinspawn|Silver Sinspawn]] 10:49, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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{{User:Bullza/sig}}
:That'd be SSJGoku93. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 10:51, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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14:52, April 18, 2020 (UTC)
   
==Unnecessary Dr. Slump characters==
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:He's since assured me that he won't be like it anymore and if he did then the infinite ban again would be justified. As I don't know when you'll get around to seeing this, I'm just going to unblock him and hopefully he's alright.{{User:Bullza/sig}} 20:50, April 21, 2020 (UTC)
I have basically copied all of the material about Dr. Slump I have wrote on this wiki onto the Dr. Slump wiki which I will be adopting because of its inactivity and tons lacking information it had. So since I have put the information there I listed the characters that have articles on this wiki that need to be deleted since they did not appear in any crossover with Dragon Ball. - [[User:Slayer25769|Slayer25769]] 00:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
* [[Kon Kimidori]]
 
* [[Murasaki Kimidori]] (Not to be confused with [[Ninja Murasaki]] of the [[Red Ribbon Army]])
 
* [[Mame Soramame]]
 
* [[Pochi Soramame]]
 
* [[Hiyoko]]
 
* [[Poosuke]]
 
* [[Kitsuneko]]
 
* [[Old Man Poop]]
 
* [[Scoppe]]
 
* [[The Champ]]
 
* [[Sankaku]]
 
* [[Ice Cream]]
 
* [[Professor Monster]]
 
* [[Time-Kun]]
 
:Alright good work. Since this is sort of a big thing though why don't you bring this to SSJGoku97, since I know either he or PZ like to review format issues before implementation. I'm sure it's fine, but just in case. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 02:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Foul language entered in Bulla page ==
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Use your best judgment. Sounds like you have. He was blocked at least 6 times here, but 4 years is a long time in which people might change. I recommend you keep an eye on him, at least for a bit. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 11:55, April 24, 2020 (UTC)
Hi, just a friendly reminder that allowing this wikia to be edited by unregistered users can lead to such things as "fat pussy and juicy breasts" being entered in Bulla's main description paragraph. Since it's obviously uncalled for, and edited by an anonymous editor, I've taken the liberty of deleting that edit.
 
:Not all anon users are vandals, and some registered users are. While we would like everyone to register if they plan to edit regularly, we have no problem with anon users stopping by to help out. Either way, we revert vandalism as quick as possible, thanks for your help. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==Question==
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==LilHobo==
how do you add a link from list of characters to a person
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User LilHobo is making personal attacks at me calling me stupid, retarded, and talking about my mom calling her retarded for making me all over a poll https://imgur.com/gallery/Cl3mx2S plz ban him -KnighMoon- If an enemy is big, small, weak or strong, I will always prevail! 21:27, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
:Could you be more specific? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 07:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==External Links==
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LilHobo has already been taken care of. It was handled by me, Yon, Jammer, and Ya Boi King Kai. He has received a one month ban for the incident.
How come extended links are not allowed on articles? - [[User:Slayer25769|Slayer25769]] 05:46, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
:''External'' links should only be used for references and in "External Links" sections. The idea is that we can watch over and protect any of the articles on our site, and ensure that they are working and in a format that our site's users have deemed acceptable. External links to other sites don't give us that control, and could potentially give readers the wrong idea of our content if an external link is broken, the site it leads to is altered, etc.
 
:As for Slump articles, once you get articles up for characters that we have here, such as Arale, you might make an "External Links" section at the bottom and have a link that says ''"More details on Arale can be found at Dr. Slump Wiki"'', and have it be a link to the other site. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 15:13, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== Sorry for being impatient ==
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5-1-2020
   
I put this on the supreme kai talkpage but,didn't goku ask the supreme kai to fuse with him but was rejected say that he was to strong. well thats what my friend said anyway.
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{{User:Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin/SigReal|07:24,5/1/2020}}
P.S if it does happen does it happen in the orignal or just the dub. [[User:Catface|<span style="color: blue"><small>Before you're born]][[User_Talk:Catface|Death flashes before your eyes.</small></span>]] 17:53, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I don't recall that specifically, but it sounds like something Goku might have said. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 23:33, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==AlphaMaleSchaab==
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:Thanks LSSF. Let me know if this continues KnighMoon. {{User:10X_Kamehameha/sig5}} 03:52, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
hey this is a real kool set up you guys got going on this wiki, how long have you had it up? and how often do you update the things like quote of the day and the item/subject of the month?[[User:AlphaMaleSchaab|AlphaMaleSchaab]] 19:21, January 27, 2010 (UTC)AlphaMaleSchaab
 
:The site has been around for a two or three years now. Daily features are updated daily, monthly features are updated monthly. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 21:42, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 

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New Dragon Ball movieEdit

Hello! Do you think we could add a link to the new Dragon Ball 20th Movie Commemoration Project in the local nav? I think it'd be good because then it's easier for users to find. Let me know what you think!Witnessme (talk) 19:49, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean by local nav? Also, your user name is great! -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:47, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry that it took me so long to respond! What I meant was the navigation tabs at the top of the wiki. And thanks! I really loved that movie. Witnessme (talk) 21:23, June 11, 2018 (UTC)

EditEdit

Dear 10xKamehameha

Hope all is well, I was reading over the Super Sayain 4 wiki and noticed it doesn't entail the Ozaru multiplication factor. It's stated Golden Great Ape is 10x stronger SSJ3, and SSJ4 is the culmination of Golden Great Ape and another x10 multiplyer. This detail should be clarified for the community and give better insight into the true scale of the conflicts portrayed in Dragon Ball GT. I request that this edit is changed and all is made well and known regarding the Super Sayain 4 transfirmation defintiely 20x stronger than Super Sayain 3 in Dragon Ball GT wikia.Thank You.

Josexbanner (talk) 22:49, March 24, 2018 (UTC) Jose Banner

Dragon Ball Enthusiast

Thank You

You can edit articles when there is something you want to change. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 16:00, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

BlockingEdit

There have been a couple of users who have been uploading images that do not belong on this wiki, previously I asked that some would kindly stop uploading these images. This newest [[1]] has been warned once already and has proceeded to upload pornographic images onto this wiki I ask you to please do something and have these images deleted.--Tuxedo12 (talk) 01:59, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

The user has been blocked and all his uploads have been deleted. Thanks for the heads up. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:19, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

DragonEmeperor is edit warring and adding false information to pages. Edit

Can you give him a warning or something? QuakingStar (talk) 02:03, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

I explained to him that Goku's potential was his Great Ape power in Dragon Ball but QuakingStar is too focused on the power level. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:08, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

No, I am focused on the fact you are adding false info to an article and you didn't bother to go to the talk page first and see why you were wrong. QuakingStar (talk) 02:11, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Your the one that didn't want to wait until an admin appear. The page has to stay the same until an admin decides it should stay or not. DragonEmeperor (talk) 02:13, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

That is why I am waiting now. QuakingStar (talk) 02:15, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

If the information is false, you really don't need an admin to say you can remove it. Munchvtec (talk) 03:21, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
We only need one to settle the argument or the edit war won't end. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:14, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
To be fair, DragonEmeperor was the one ACTUALLY doing what the wiki has us do. If anything, Quaking, you were the one edit warring. And, regardless of whether or not the information is "valid", as you put it, you still have to use the talk page after even a single user disputes your edit. ExyleCage (talk) 04:50, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
What “pages” are we talking about? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:20, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Drawing_out_Dormant_Power

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Unlock_Potential

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku?diff=1706186&oldid=1706177

Goku's power level was not 1800, therefor this info is false information and speculation. QuakingStar (talk) 04:44, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

The edit you linked was a citation, not a power level claim. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:39, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, and he is claiming Goku became 10x stronger after drinking the ultra divine water, which he was not. He is also going around making unnessary edits, edit warring, and any edit that comes after his edits he undos them with no explanation. He seems to think only he can make edits here, then he claims he is waiting for admins to talk to but never does. QuakingStar (talk) 03:58, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Because, Neff found some sources and some other users agreed to reworded it. So that one was settled. P.S., my "unnecessary edits" you say are focusing on cleaning up older pages that haven't been edited on in years. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Nice excuse, but you don't need to add unnecessary shit to pages just because you feel like it. That's just redundant. We really needed to know Majuub was an earthling AND a human in that sentence?? No, human sufficed. You just want to be right and don't want anybody else making edits if YOU don't agree with them. You are edit warring and you are flexing like you are some sort of admin or sysop. You literally broke rules, yet you didn't even get a warning... that's hilarious. QuakingStar (talk) 04:23, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Watch the language there, buddy. ExyleCage (talk) 04:29, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

SHIT is not a bad word, nor against the rules. Neither is the word hell. Don't you come on here acting like a Sysop or an Admin either when you are neither. Mind your business and move on. QuakingStar (talk) 04:36, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Human is used for terminology now, so I'm changing every page that has Human to Earthling because that's the page that focus on the race itself. DragonEmeperor (talk) 04:45, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

I got a warning from Neff for using that very word. So, yes. It IS against the rules. ExyleCage (talk) 04:59, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Link me to the rules page, where it lists the word shit as a bad word and against the rules, until then, until I see proof I will use it as I please. QuakingStar (talk) 05:17, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

It depends on how you use the word if it is against the rules or not, here is an example for both "You need to take your shit and shove it" is where shit would be against the rules and "Today was shit" is where it isn't against the rules. Actually ExyleCage shit isn't against the rules on the Rules page which can be found under Guidelines or on your talk page in the first message you received but it depends on how you use it if it is really against the rules I don't see a problem with Quaking calling some redundant stuff in articles shit instead of stuff.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  07:31,4/23/2018 

Recommended Videos test Edit

Hi 10X Kamehameha. I wanted to give you a quick head's up that I just posted a forum thread about a new feature test here on Dragon Ball Wiki. Let me know in that thread if you have any questions. Thanks! - Brandon Rhea@fandom(talk) 19:25, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 02:42, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

David Gray/Sam Majesters is James Marsters Edit

I come to you about this because you once stated that IMBd is reputable. and it lists Marsters as the voice of Zamasu and Fused Zamasu. So does Anime News Network. So has IMBD lost its reputation or it is still a valid source; that's my question? Other sources i listed are on its Zamasu's talk page.--Made up Character Wiki/Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki Admin Jack Jackson Things I do [mod] 07:57, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

IMBD is a user-generated site like this one, so not ideal as a primary source. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

RudenessEdit

NegativeShipper was rude again this time on this http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:613839#34. He said I was young enough to question why people are needlessly mean and Sheikhtanveerahmed asked me how old are you kid... in response to my statements that GT and Super being trash are only opinions. And Negativeshipper has been rude in the past too. like in this thread http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:616539#144. Like I posted before on an archived message page, sorry if this bugs you.--Hulk10 (talk) 17:46, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Rudeness isn’t exactly a policy violation if it doesn’t hit the level of personal attack. I recommend not engaging in conversation with rude people. I didn’t see any cursing or insults. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:27, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Admin body Edit

I personally think we are understaffed, most large wikis have at least two bureaucrats and four admins active. We are a large wiki and in the top thirty for most popular, I think we need to further up our administrative body.--Neffyarious (talk) 19:33, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Who would you recommend for new admins? For mainspace, we seem to have 1 bureaucrat and 2 admins regularly active including ourselves. I’m happy to add more if we have well-suited users. Conflict resolution skills are at the top of my list for candidates. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:28, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

That's the only problem, it's difficult which users exactly. New World God, YonedgeHp and Sandubadear all have admin skills, but are admins on other DB wikis and so would probably not be able to commit to being admins here (and NWG has not edited here all that much). DragonEmeperor and Goku20 both have good admin potential, but there are a few issues with them: they don't have the best standing in our community and DragonEmeperor also still needs some growth in how he edits (users have complained several times that he undoes edits without giving reasons). From what I've seen 0551E80Y may also be a good candidate. I'd say we need more community input on new admins.--Neffyarious (talk) 10:38, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

On my part now it really isn't my fault that I am bad standing with some of the community if you look at my talk page four users have a problem with me two of which because in their opinion I impersonate admins (which could be fixed by me becoming one) and the other two because I undone their edits which were wrong like the one that made the edit about how famous Gogeta is.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  11:23,5/15/2018 


It doesn't take much for someone to become drunk with the power that they have be given and go on a bindge of being enforcement on policies far more then what is actually required. Oh, they can promise they will be good. But once they get the responsiblities, it can cause them to change their perception on things while having that lust of knowing you can stamp out any saying against you immeditalty with blocking them. It can be like ectasay, it is that easy to do.

I have seen around the wikia of admins who gone beyond the standards and even necessary procedure of enforcing rules, while being venomous about it. I know one who because of his actions has a very infamous reputation (contains strong langauge) of running his wikis, despite the high quality work he puts in on them.

My question is this. What do you have that can convince the community that they believe you will not be like him if you get these privalages? Because frankly i believe he would have been once like us non admin users here on the db wiki before he became an admin. But look what has happened to him. In my view, he is a warning of what can happen to communities that become toxicified because of too much abuse of adminstation power. 0551E80Y (talk) 11:59, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

0551E80Y I know that admin because I used to edit on the family guy wiki until he undone my edit and blocked me, and I personally don't care who in the community thinks I will or won't be like him because I know their are some that will be for me becoming an admin and some against it just because they have a problem with me undoing their edits for good reason and after 10X and Final both talked some sense into I have actually changed from the guy that users (who some of don't edit here anymore) had a problem with me don't anymore and quit a few times those problems where just misunderstandings, now the ones I have mentioned I don't know if they still edit here or not. But I can only prove people wrong or right if I become an admin and quit literally after having been wanting to, to help out with this exact problem of not enough admins and being passed over because I wasn't at the top of the list I really don't care if I become one or not anymore. If I do though I will check as many edits as I can which even goes for Dragon's edits and the ones I don't agree with or are wrong I will undo them and give them a reason (if I am not in a rush) which is all I can do. The users who edit war will have the rules mainly that one explained to them, the ones that want to be vandal's they will be either blocked or banned depending on if it was just one time or not. The other rule breakers will be treated like the ones who edit war.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  12:47,5/15/2018 


I suppose it really comes down to trust and faith. I wish you luck. 0551E80Y (talk) 13:17, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

I'm glad I'm not an admin on this wiki. Though I am one on another one. Going power crazed is unfortunate.--Hulk10 (talk) 15:00, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

I can't give a reason on every edit I work cause I do multiple pages at once. Plus, I read through the added material first before removing because most users like to either vandalize or add complete speculation. As the users that have a problem, you can read about them on Neff's talk page. Besides them, I don't really get complaints that much now. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:13, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

I have reviewed all these users and will promote 0551E80Y and YonedgeHp to admins. DragonEmperor you are almost there, but there are a couple concerns. Lack of communication including good edit summaries when undoing others’ good faith edits is one. Another is defending edits on the grounds they were made by admins in the past. Admins including me are by no means always right, and official sources trump users. This would be especially concerning if you used that argument to defend your own edits and stop using sources. I’m not saying you would do that, just that sources are needed in articles as are edit summaries and other good communication. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
When people edit war over your edits even when some was sourced, I try to play neutral cause even I'm not sure at times. But, when nobody wants to listen or follow the rules so what can you do. Also, the good faith edits don't be always removed permanently. As for communication, you can see on Neff's talk page with Rey0194 and JohnRich23. DragonEmeperor (talk) 01:15, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
I also updated the admin roster by moving two of the listed active admins to inactive, and retiring one previously listed as inactive. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate the efficiency, but shouldn't we have gotten more imput - like from Bullza for example - before moving forward? Also, what about the subject of a second bureaucrat?--Neffyarious (talk) 10:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:52, May 16, 2018 (UTC)


Thanks, 10X Kamehameha, I'm honestly surprised that I was chosen to be a new admin here, even though I'm already part of the administration at the Spanish Dragon Ball Wiki, I'll be here more often to watch out. ~ Yon ~Great King Cold SDBH World Mission artworkVisit my talk page! 11:00, May 16, 2018 (UTC)


I'd said it on my talk page but i'll say it here as well. Thank you very much for promoting me. I will also do my best. 0551E80Y (talk) 11:59, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations, Aussie Boy! ~ Yon ~Great King Cold SDBH World Mission artworkVisit my talk page! 13:04, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Recommendations are always welcome from any users including admins like Bullza. Neffy you and I both recognized the new admins, and I think requiring a review from all the current admins would be too much. I’m happy to keep serving the Wiki as our local active bureaucrat, and for the number of admins and frequency of adding new ones, I don’t think another is required right now. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:32, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Seems to me that perhaps a new bureaucrat would be a good idea.--Hulk10 (talk) 01:07, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

A second bureaucrat to what end? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:18, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
No idea. Since I'm not sure what you mean by to what end.--Hulk10 (talk) 01:24, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

As I said, most larger more popular wikis have at least two bureaucrats.--Neffyarious (talk) 11:59, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Also could you remove User:SSJ4 Vegito as chat moderator, they ain't edited since 2015. Also User:Nonoitall should be listed as retired here.--Neffyarious (talk) 12:12, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Just because someone else is doing something doesn’t make it right, necessary, or even useful. I think chat moderator status is okay to keep, since the relevant policies don’t change much if at all over time, unlike article content and style. As stated on your link, bureaucrats become inactive but not retired. I couldn’t do it if I wanted to anyway. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:42, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Well as you have seen several users think a second bureaucrat would be a good idea, so it's something that needs to be acted upon. We can contact wikia to have them remove Nonoitall's user rights.--Neffyarious (talk) 20:54, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

You say we need one because other sites need one, but you haven’t given any reason why we need one. Bureaucrats just click the button to add new admins, and we don’t need a second person for the volume of new admin promotions we need and have here. The other user didn’t know why hey thought we needed a second bureaucrat. Since I’ve told you why one is plenty for us right now, and no one else has given any reasons why we would need two, we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:36, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

We are voting on this, it's not your decision alone 10X, it's up to the community. As for reasons, what if you disappear? I've seen bureaucrats disappear without warning. What if there's a decision that should be made by more than one Bureaucrat? Promoting new admins is not all a bureaucrat should do, they should be the ones who update policies and rules as well.--Neffyarious (talk) 22:46, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Neff, why don't you become the second bureaucrat then? DragonEmeperor (talk) 23:11, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Good idea DragonEmperor.--Hulk10 (talk) 23:49, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

We don’t decide things by voting, we use discussion and consensus. That means someone actually needs a reason to do something, including adding admins, rollback, chat mods, buteaucrat, etc. I’m patiently awaiting someone to give a reason for the second bureaucrat.
Neff, Wikis don’t work on voting, they work on civil discussion and consensus. I’m surprised you don’t know that as an admin on a Wiki. If bureaucrats disappear, staff can appoint a new bureaucrat at that time. Rules here are determined by civil discussion and community consensus. Admins or bureaucrats have permission to edit the policies, but should not be tyrannically mandating policies without the community agreeing. While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more. Like admins, they are leaders here and help resolve conflicts, drive Wiki style, and article formatting, as well as align the site with Wikia technology advancements. None of this is done alone. The differentiator of a bureaucrat, that is what they can do that admins cannot, is promote new admins. This is in additional to everything the other admins and users do too.
So by all means, drive policy change through civil discussions and community consensus. Recommend new admins. Be a great editor and suggest and implement new formatting options in articles. Actively participate in the social aspects of the Wiki. All of those things can be done as an admin, and most by any user. But the button you would gain by having bureaucrat rights is not something we need a second person for right now. In the future you are a candidate for it, but comments about voting here as a substitute for discussions and consensus, and about admins making policies rather than facilitating and implementing them, make me hesitate. If you want to be a bureaucrat here, those are the areas to focus on—everything else I think you are good. And you don’t need to beat around the bush, you can just ask, either here or via email. Think about how you would shape the Wiki as a bureaucrat rather than just saying we need to vote on having two. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:11, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

Plenty of wikis work on voting, ours is about community consensus (which is basically voting, just with discussion). You talk about us running on a community consensus and yet you immediately put your foot down and say "we will not be adding a second bureaucrat right now" and you promote two new admins near immediately even though only two users have agreed that they are the right ones for the job (not that I don't appreciate the efficiency).

I already gave you what I think is reason enough, but if you need more; bureaucrats hold the most power on the wiki and I don't think that one person alone should have this, it should be more balanced. You say that the only difference between an admin and a bureaucrat is making new admins, but that's not true, in all honesty the bureaucrat is the one who gets the final say in things. I was discussing with a member of wiki's vanguard team a while back about the best way a wiki should be run and they suggested that a wiki should actually have three bureaucrats. I never said I wanted to be the second bureaucrat, I just said I think we should have a second one, certainly I'm a candidate but then there's also Bullza - who may well be better suited for the job than me.--Neffyarious (talk) 10:47, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

We could probably do with more than what we have. I was made a Mod due to their being a lack of them in the first place and since that time Final Chidori has since become inactive so it's just back to where we started.
Dragon Emperor is the most active of us all and he does a good job at finding things and updating pages and checking most people's edits so he'd probably be an ideal Mod. The only concern there is that I think he could be a bit quick to block people. So he'd need to be fair for that and also the way he goes about undoing people's edits which can lead to edit warring, so he'd need to explain things a bit better.
As for the other Bureaucrat, I see where the idea is coming from. Though I don't think there's been a problem up to yet, I do think it would be a good safeguard to have another one just encase. It's not like everything would suddenly change around here, it'd be the same just with a bit more reassurance.Bullza (talk) 13:09, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

Neffyarious, I like your point about balance with multiple bureaucrats rather than one, but your comment about some random unidentified user saying three is good does not add to your argument. Also, you said I said the only difference between a bureaucrat and an admin is the button to promote to admin, but that's wrong. That's the only functional difference. I said, "While the main functional difference of bureaucrat rights is the extra button to make others admins or remove those rights, their service here involves much more." Then I went on to describe the role, and yes all of the rest of it is possible as an admin. Ideally positive influence on a Wiki (and everywhere else in the world) is achieved by ideas and actions rather than the power to demote and block. In 6 years as a bureaucrat here, I have only ever threatened to demote an admin once, and never actually had to do so (other than voluntarily and admin retirements). Promoting new admins is one of the most important parts of being a bureaucrat, and I thoroughly reviewed all the candidates that made sense before the last two promotions were made. In honesty only time will time if people with good records and potential will live up to it, but YonedgeHp and 0551E80Y have earned their shots. Your argument swings back and forth between saying a bureaucrat should do more and saying I do too much on my own, and it just doesn't add up. If sometimes I do too much and other times not enough, I'm probably right about where I should be ("you can't make all the people happy all the time"). Also, consensus is not voting with discussion, it is the process of presenting points of view to arrive at a solution everyone can stand behind. Voting means 49% of people may be unhappy and not understand why the decision was made. Consensus takes substantially longer, but involves everyone to a greater extent, and leaves everyone happier with a higher quality resolution.

Bullza, I mostly agree with your comments on Dragon Emperor, and wrote my own earlier in this thread. I think he'll definitely get there in time. I'd like to see him communicate a little more in addition to what you said. While I don't find your argument for another bureaucrat completely compelling (since Wikia could always appoint a new new bureaucrat if I suddenly and unexpectedly disappeared after now 8 years of regular activity), I do trust in the fact that both you and Neffyarious feel it's the right thing to do. After due consideration of all community members on this Wiki, Bullza you are best suited to become the second bureaucrat. This is based on your outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills. Never forget there is always room to keep growing in all these areas. I am promoting you to bureaucrat effective immediately. Congratulations and please let me know if you have any questions. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:04, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

  • You just promoted a new bureaucrat with little input from any users? You made the decision on who it would be completely alone, despite the apparent community consensus we need, and quickly, before anyone could even react. Really? What?--Neffyarious (talk) 23:20, May 18, 2018 (UTC)
Nope, that's all wrong. We've been discussing this for 5 days, and many of our most active users, and all the active admins have contributed to this discussion. While bureaucrats make the final decision on promotions, everyone's input was considered, including 4 years of observing Bullza and 5 years of observing you, the only active admins who have more than a couple days of experience as an admin. So after years of observations, and input from the community and all active admins, Bullza's outstanding editing, communication, calm demeanor, and technical skills gave him an edge over you in this case. While the decision to appoint a second bureaucrat, spear-headed by you, was made in less than a week, the preference of candidates was years in the making. This was a well-reasoned, and long-considered decision. If you would like specific examples of the comparison, I can provide that for you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:00, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

No. You made the final decision without enough community input, it should have been up to the greater community to decide the second bureaucrat, not you alone.--Neffyarious (talk) 00:15, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

No. The only thing I determined was who of the two of you was better suited. I was best suited to do so, after over 4 years of observation and over 6 years doing the task myself. You are mad you didn’t get picked. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:19, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

No, a decision like this should have been decided by the greater community. I'm not mad, just surprised at what you're doing. I really don't think this is the proper way of going about things.--Neffyarious (talk) 00:26, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

I don’t believe you. A few posts ago you were against community consensus. And you have been a part of other promotions and never pushed for community consensus back then, only this time when you got passed over. Rather than stew, I recommend you work on the areas I pointed out. Make the Wiki better and you have a good shot at being bureaucrat in the future. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 00:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

I was never against community consensus. The only promotion I was part of was Bullza's adminship, and there were a large amount of users who agreed Bullza was the best candidate, you even waited for my input before going through with it.--Neffyarious (talk) 10:28, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Well that’s clearly not true, since you spurred the last two admin promotions in this very thread, and also in this thread you recommended a vote. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 12:41, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

You'll find that after you promoted those two I said "I appreciate the efficiency, but shouldn't we have gotten more input - like from Bullza for example - before moving forward?".

Anyhow, I was discussing this subject with a member of the vanguard. You were technically in the right because we don't actually have a proper procedure for promotions, however due to our wikis size we should implement a procedure. A forum should be opened for us all to discuss proper promotion procedure.

You were being a hypocrite when you said we should follow consensus but then proceeded to choose a second bureaucrat on your own, but as I said, we don't have a procedure in place so that can be overlooked.--Neffyarious (talk) 13:13, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

(posted after the note below, for organization) The second bureaucrat was your idea. I’m the only one here with experience as this site’s bureaucrat, and the only thing I picked was Bullza over you, with the current admins’ input including yours. Bullza has stated you would have been fine, and you have stated Bullza would be fine. I’m growing tired of your lies. We do have a process here, which you should know after being an admin here for years Dragon Ball Wiki:Administrators. The process is the bureaucrats choose people to promote. I was going beyond that procedure by collecting input from others first. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 14:10, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Here, I made it in the old forum style, I hope that's okay with you. We can always move it to the current forums if that would be better.--Neffyarious (talk) 13:27, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

That is confusing. There is already a page for the procedure, use its talk page. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 14:10, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
I started a thread there for you. I welcome the community’s input on if and how to modify our official process. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 14:22, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I suppose it would be better to put it in the admin talk. It would have been handy if you could have moved Bullza and I's comments there when you deleted it though.--Neffyarious (talk) 17:07, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for that. I considered it but your comments were specific to it being a forum and I didn’t want to edit your words to make it fit. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
While you did start that convo in the wrong place, please don’t stick new text as a replacement for my intro to that thread. It makes it falsely seem like I am responding nonsensically. Also it included you saying there is no process on the talk page of the article containing the process, which made no sense. Be careful when moving around comments and just avoid doing so for other peoples’ if possible, thanks. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:51, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Gotcha, I put it back below yours and adjusted it a bit to fit the context.--Neffyarious (talk) 18:29, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

SilverKaiser Edit

This guy keeps vandalizing Broly, renamed it, and even wipe the page. DragonEmeperor (talk) 03:07, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Also keeps shoving his silly little fan fiction into the page too.(Kaleifla 03:11, July 13, 2018 (UTC))

Thanks, I gave him a 1 week block. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:58, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Bot Edit

Hey 10X, I want to turn this account into a bot. DragonEmeperor (talk) 18:27, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

No, you’ve been making too many edits against consensus that all have to be undone, currently this parallel nonsense. You cannot have a bot at this time. --