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Orion Invictus

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  • Orion Invictus

    In DBZ, Saiyans managed to overcome their limits by giving in to anger and frustration (Super Saiyan 1-3), but in DBS, it's been the opposite. SSG required six pure-hearted Saiyans, who'd managed to overcome their inherently wild nature. SSB also requires a calm mind. And then there's Ultra Instinct, that literally requires you to be so calm, your mind goes blank, leaving your body to react on its own. In other words, DBS has Saiyans going against their savage nature to surpass their limits. DBGT did something similar with SS4, which requires a calm mind while going back to the Saiyan roots (Great Ape).

    What do you guys think of this change? I found it interesting, but I'm not sure Toriyama intended it this way.

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    There's one debate ubiquitous to every Japanese cartoon and comic that's been released (as well as several other western franchises): which parts of it are and aren't "canon". Some cite comic books as being the "true canon" for later adaptations (and so anything that doesn't match it is "non-canon"), others cite the original creator's work as being the "true canon", and others still just say something they don't like is "non-canon".

    However, this phenomenon seems to be almost entirely exclusive to western fans. In Japan, they just accept the stories as what they're meant to be (amusement), without concerning themselves about what is or isn't "canon". Why can't western fans do the same? What drives you to obsess over an insignificant aspect …

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    Since the beginning, they've added more and more "junk" to replace actual episode time. Before, we had this sequence:

    1. Logos
    2. Intro
    3. Quick recap of previous episode
    4. Title card
    5. First half of the episode
    6. Artwork(? not sure what this is called)
    7. Second half of the episode
    8. Outro
    9. Preview for next episode

    Now (ToP) we have:

    1. Logos
    2. Preview of the episode you're about to watch
    3. Intro
    4. Recap of the previous episode
    5. Title card
    6. First half of the episode
    7. Artwork(? not sure what this is called)
    8. Second half of the episode
    9. Outro
    10. Preview for the next episode

    And in the latest episode:

    1. Logos
    2. Preview of the episode you're about to watch
    3. Intro
    4. Recap of the precious episode
    5. Title card
    6. Reused events from the end of the previous episode
    7. First half of the actual new episode
    8. Artwork(? not sure what thi…
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  • Orion Invictus

    This is my speculation, but time is simply going to run out, and since Frieza is still in the ring, U11 is going to be erased.

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    I see so many laughably wrong power level multipliers, like that one guy who just claimed SSB is 1 million times base power, so I'm going to put here what is actually known or can be reasonably ascertained based on the series' lore. I'll only be listing proper Super Saiyan transformations (no "False Super Saiyan", no power stressed/weighted buffs, etc.), with the exception of the Great Ape, since those are the ones most people care about, and the last one is relevant to SS4.



    Great Ape: 10x base power

    Super Saiyan 1: 5x Great Ape = 50x base power

    Super Saiyan 2: 2x Super Saiyan 1 = 10x Great Ape =  100x base power

    Super Saiyan 3: 4x Super Saiyan 2 = 8x Super Saiyan 1 = 40x Great Ape = 400x base power



    Golden Great Ape: 50x Great Ape = 500x base p…





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