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  • Does anyone else believe that the true final form of Goku will be that he somehow synchronizes UI with SSB?

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    • I personally believe that we will one day see a merged form of Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct. I doubt that it will be Super Saiyan Blue, as I think Ultra Instinct comes with god-ki so there would be no reason to add in a Super Saiyan god form since UI utilizes a form similar. However, I think he will oneday merge it with another form. If they canonize Super Saiyan 4 sometime, maybe he can merge it with that and achieve Super Saiyan 5. Toyotaro would love that. As for his final form? Doubtful. Goku will never have a final form unless the series ends for good. But you got it right! Maybe he can add blue, but I think MUI comes with all of that form's power.

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    • It’s be difficult to discern the form from SSBE so probably not. As Kai said it’d probably be fused with SS1 as it almost appears to be in the same vein of transformation as Super Saiyan Red.

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    • SS1 + Ultra Instinct + Great Ape's power. Ultra SSGSS4. For Vegeta he would get SSGSS4Evolved

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    • I wonder if the hair color would change. After all, Mastered Ultra Instinct is the complete form with Omen serving more like Pseudo Super Saiyan would. So my question is, would Goku's hair color change? Or would it just stay silver and stand up. I hope it would stay silver and stand up. And if He ever did Go Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan 4? That would look a lot like Super Saiyan 5. It would be cool to see that canonized. A nice nod by Toriyama to Toyotaro's past. Truth be known, I think that the way that Super Saiyan 5 is achieved is similar to how Ultra Instinct is. I read that it was achieved by a massive power output. In GT, the English-only ester egg, mentions that if Vegeta absorbs enough energy from the blutz wave generator, he might reach Super Saiyan 5. Goku achieve Ultra Instinct for the first time (I think it was the firt time) by being exposed to his own spirit bomb and then entering the Black Hole that it created. It might never go that far in the series, but if it does, it would be a nice way to honor Toyataro's past while building on his future. A nice way to finally pass the torch of Dragon Ball creator.

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    • Thanks for the input guys. I have to agree with a lot of it. If I had my way the hair change to white but it would look too much like Fused Zamasu. They might keep it silver and bighten the tone. His eyes though would pupilless gold to contrast the white or silver. And shall be called Super Saiyan Ultra

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    • I actually like that. They should also call the next season of Dragon Ball Super, Dragon Ball Ultra. That would be cool and would open the horizon to Ultra Instinct.

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    • Oh the reason I said SSB was because the already mastered Super Saiyan God couldstabilizes Ultra Instinct and allows him to use it at a longer duration.

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    • I think Ultra Instinct is the true mastered version of Super Saiyan god. I think that Super Saiyan god is the first stepping stone to it. After all, Whis was trying to help them reach it when they hit Super Saiyan Blue. In my opinion, I think that we could view Super Saiyan Blue to Ultra Instinct and Super Saiyan god the same way we see Super Saiyan Grade 2 and 3. Ultra Instinct is the form that they were meant to ascend to from Super Saiyan god, but instead they went the path of instant power. Dose this make sense? Ultra Instinct is actually more like Super Saiyan god 2.

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    • Ok I see what your saying. So, I believe Super Saiyan Ultra or whatever could be the form Beerus dreamt of.

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    • All Beerus saw was the outline of the form in his dream, I think what Beerus really saw was "Super Saiyan Silver" aka Ultra Instinct which is the silver haired form that enables its Saiyan user to use Ultra Instinct much easier.

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    • Super Saiyan Ultra is what I call Super Saiyan Silver

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    • And here I just call it Autonomous Ultra Instinct...

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    • I just call it UI. I think it’s a Saiyan transformation only that grants the ability of AUI but that may just be me. I think the similar to Kai, UI is definitely somehow related to Super Saiyan Red.

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    • It has to be. Many people use Ultra Instinct and it has never displayed any of the characteristics of Goku's version besides autonomous dodging. Goku's hair changes color when he does it which is a Saiyan thing. Mastered Ultra Instinct (Or complete Ultra Instinct, or whatever it's called.) With the silver hair has to be mingled with Super Saiyan god. The hair remains calm too. I recon it to the awakening of Super Saiyan 2. This would make Super Saiyan Blue and Super Saiyan Blue Evolved equal in manner to Super Saiyan Grade 2 and Grade 3.

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    • I hope UI's form is merged with Wrathful State, SSJ4, Blue Evolution, and a God of Destruction form.

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    • Honestly I’m just wicked excited to see Gohan DO SOMETHING again and have Vegeta... why don’t I shorten this and say I’m insanely excited to see Dragon Ball again. Yeah that’s what I’m hyped over. I just can’t wait to be sitting on the edge of my seat again hanging on every turn of the arcs. I almost became a little kid again when I saw the booth they set up outside of comic con for the DBS: Broly movie.

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    • I hope they make it into an anime too. I prefer to watch than read, and have a hard time finding the manga. Hope the next movie they make canonizes another character. Cooler would be cool. They could also bring back Cell. Seeing him reach a form like Frieza's golden form would be awesome. Since he has Saiyan cells, he could also his Super Saiyan Blue and the like. My sister seems to think it will be a Broly 2 sort of situation. I personally hope for Cooler.

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    • Cooler or Janemba are most likely, Frieza said he needed somebody strong on his side.. Cooler would be perfect for that.

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    • I never got to see the Janemba movie. It would make some sense if he were in it considering that Janemba was in the movie Fusions Reborn which was the first intrance of Gogeta into the Dragon Ball universe. I personally hope for Cooler though. Add another Frieza to make things work. He could reach his "Golden Form" but since it was hinted that the color can be chosen when Frieza first used it, they could say that Metal Cooler is the "Golden form"

      Ya seem what I mean? "Golden Frieza" "Metal Cooler" it's too perfect to pass up!

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