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  • After reading the manga. I became very supportive of the pairing.. She doesn't have a close relationship with Kale. Though Kale is loyal to her since she took her gang (in the manga it's a female group of Saiyans not the punks we see in the anime) She also annoyed when Kale comes with them and is implied to be jealous. What is SHE doing here?

    The anime makes points that Goku could be attracted to her too. Kefla says he is the most impressive man she has ever met


    I know there are people that do support them. I was just thought it would be fun to talk.

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    • She isn't attracted to Goku and he isn't attracted to her, he just wants to train her and she wants to be trained to get SS3 and then SSGSS. She is implied by Toyotaro to be the U6 counterpart of Goku through his artwork.

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    • They share a kindred spirit. While Champa and Beerus are counterparts (literally by blood) a lot of the U6 characters have U7 counterparts.

      Kale and Broly (Both Legendary Super Saiyans)

      Cabba and Vegeta (Both proud Saiyan warriors who use the same fighting style and version of the Galick Gun.)

      Caulifla and Goku (Both prodegies in their time who master Super Saiyan forms fast and are strong. They both have a crazy Legendary Saiyan constantly chasing after them and obsessing over them.)

      I don't know if it's a male-female sort of thing and more of a warrior to warrior thing.

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    • Would be a bit weird to have an attraction between the 2 at this point, since Goku is married. I'd prefer they keep this sort of drama away from DB.

      Gonna have to agree with King Kai on this one. I'd say they're just U6 counterparts.

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    • If Goku cheated on Chi Chi, I wouldn't like him anymore.

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    • Goku wouldn't knowingly cheat, ever. Even in the anime he dodged Princess Snake like she was nothing. He does love Chichi.

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      If Goku cheated on Chi Chi, I wouldn't like him anymore.

      I wouldn't mind. Chi Chi is a selfish woman anyway. More concerned about her son's education than the safety of the world.

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    • Mmhmm. Chi Chi is selfish because she wants the best for her son...

      I mean, what kind of woman has the audacity to be afraid that her 10 year old son is going to die at the hands of a super warrior who eats innocents for lunch?

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      Mmhmm. Chi Chi is selfish because she wants the best for her son...

      I mean, what kind of woman has the audacity to be afraid that her 10 year old son is going to die at the hands of a super warrior who eats innocents for lunch?

      She clearly hasn't seen how tough her son can be. That's the problem.

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    • Rogeta234 wrote:

      Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      If Goku cheated on Chi Chi, I wouldn't like him anymore.

      I wouldn't mind. Chi Chi is a selfish woman anyway. More concerned about her son's education than the safety of the world.

      To be fair Goku makes similarly horrible decisions just to get a good fight. Take frieza from Namek for example. Or challenging Beerus. Or bringing frieza back fod the tournament of power...

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    • ExiaTreason wrote:

      Rogeta234 wrote:

      Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      If Goku cheated on Chi Chi, I wouldn't like him anymore.
      I wouldn't mind. Chi Chi is a selfish woman anyway. More concerned about her son's education than the safety of the world.
      To be fair Goku makes similarly horrible decisions just to get a good fight. Take frieza from Namek for example. Or challenging Beerus. Or bringing frieza back fod the tournament of power...

      Well, the last one is mainly for adding a 10th member for their team.

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    • Leave it to Buu to fall asleep on the day of one of the most important battles in the history of the universe...

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    • FlatZone wrote:
      Goku wouldn't knowingly cheat, ever. Even in the anime he dodged Princess Snake like she was nothing. He does love Chichi.

      he wants her as a friend that's what the author said

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    • We don’t even know how old Caulifla is, Goku is around 40

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    • I always thought that she'd go for Cabba. Kale maybe... no, everyone hates Cabba.

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote: I always thought that she'd go for Cabba. Kale maybe... no, everyone hates Cabba.

      I just dont like that hes a tooth pick

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    • Rogeta234 wrote:
      Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      Mmhmm. Chi Chi is selfish because she wants the best for her son...

      I mean, what kind of woman has the audacity to be afraid that her 10 year old son is going to die at the hands of a super warrior who eats innocents for lunch?

      She clearly hasn't seen how tough her son can be. That's the problem.

      She's also learned from previous experience. She trained Goten herself when Goku was off being a dead deadbeat dad.

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    • It's not that Chi-Chi doesn't believe in fighting, she just doesn't want the fate of the world to hang on the shoulders of her children. She wants them to be smart enough to make their own choices when they're older. After all, Gohan didn't have to become a scholar later in life when he was married, he chose to. Chi-Chi just knows the value of a good education, especially when she and Goku neither reieved a proper one.

      If only all Mothers could care like Chi-Chi.

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      It's not that Chi-Chi doesn't believe in fighting, she just doesn't want the fate of the world to hang on the shoulders of her children. She wants them to be smart enough to make their own choices when they're older. After all, Gohan didn't have to become a scholar later in life when he was married, he chose to. Chi-Chi just knows the value of a good education, especially when she and Goku neither reieved a proper one.

      If only all Mothers could care like Chi-Chi.

      Bulma and Videl are good mothers and let their children make their own decisions
      Bulma and 18 are good mothers but they are also relevant
      Being a mother should only be a part of what a character is. I don't think that's an excuse.

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    • An excuse?

      Chi-Chi takes motherhood to a new level.

      Bulma took her infant child to a battle with androids and let Yajarobe hold him... even after he threatened to throw him out of the window...

      Videl let's Gohan and Hercule play football... with Pan as the football... (untill Chi-Chi showed up)

      18... Well, I got nothing against her. She is actually a good mother... she just gets preocupied babying Krillin... *insert whiny Krillin getting his wound disinfected pic here*

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      An excuse?

      Chi-Chi takes motherhood to a new level.

      Bulma took her infant child to a battle with androids and let Yajarobe hold him... even after he threatened to throw him out of the window...

      Videl let's Gohan and Hercule play football... with Pan as the football... (untill Chi-Chi showed up)

      18... Well, I got nothing against her. She is actually a good mother... she just gets preocupied babying Krillin... *insert whiny Krillin getting his wound disinfected pic here*

      usually whenever I see someone criticize chichi defects, the only answer ... I see about that but is a good mother

      They consider them Saiyan babies so they are strong ... but Ironically Gohan has been more dangerous to death because of his lack of training ...

      the series is really about warriors and not about motherhood is not really necessary ..
      I do not think anyone hates the character but to be the protagonist's wife is really irrelevant in comparison ... with other women who are good mothers but also fight or participate in the story is really sad but apparently the author said he did not like character

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    • Really Goku is the bad spouse and parent. He's never kissed his wife and would rather die than make life easier for his family.

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    • I've been saying that for forever. Chi-Chi had to raise Goten pretty much alone. She finally found balance I think. You want to see a good thing that shows Chi-Chi being a good Mother? Season 6. Watch "Memories of Gohan" and you'll see what I mean. She cares more about Gohan than even studies...

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    • What ChiChi needs is the "sit boy" thing from Inuyasha.

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    • I wish I knew what you were talking about...

      What is Inuyasha?

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      I wish I knew what you were talking about...

      What is Inuyasha?

      Damn dude. That's another anime, it was quite popular back in the day like 15 years ago. Basically whenever this girl says "Sit boy!" the necklace around his neck slams him straight into the ground. it was quite funny.

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    • I never saw that anime. I only tend to look at anime that might interest me.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Really Goku is the bad spouse and parent. He's never kissed his wife and would rather die than make life easier for his family.

      because simply they are 2 people different so Chichi and Goku’s relationship was always  basically a gag, 

      Chichi knew nothing of romance other than what she read in her teen magazines.

      Chichi thought she had to become Goku’s bride because he kicked her in the crotch

      Chichi asked Goku to make her his bride and he agreed because he thought it was food.

      Goku agreed to it because a promise is a promise (no matter how much the Funimation dub tried to pass it off as genuine affection for her).

      It was always a joke. There was no childhood romantic promise being fulfilled because Goku had no idea what he was agreeing to and barely understood the concept of marriage just before he “proposed”

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    • But hey, they're still together and have two sons and one granddaughter. That's beter than most arranged marriages! Besides, Chi-Chi tries and they both verymuch seem to care for each other to me.

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    • Mirai trunks wrote:

      NervousShipper wrote:
      Really Goku is the bad spouse and parent. He's never kissed his wife and would rather die than make life easier for his family.

      because simply they are 2 people different so Chichi and Goku’s relationship was always  basically a gag, 

      Chichi knew nothing of romance other than what she read in her teen magazines.

      Chichi thought she had to become Goku’s bride because he kicked her in the crotch

      Chichi asked Goku to make her his bride and he agreed because he thought it was food.

      Goku agreed to it because a promise is a promise (no matter how much the Funimation dub tried to pass it off as genuine affection for her).

      It was always a joke. There was no childhood romantic promise being fulfilled because Goku had no idea what he was agreeing to and barely understood the concept of marriage just before he “proposed”

      It’s been 40 yrs I universe and that joke is worse that rapey Roshi

      Edit:I mean in how it keeps being used, not in the severity of the offence. Obviously.

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    • Goku is a good parent but not the perfect husband

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    • Goku would rather be on King Kai's planet or Beerus' world than hanging out with Goten. How long has Goku been training? Vegeta is a better husband AND father than Goku. At least Vegeta refused to take part in the tournament because he wanted to be there for Bulma until Bulla was born. If I remember correctly, Goku was trying to talk him out of it, so we know what Goku would have done.

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      Goku would rather be on King Kai's planet or Beerus' world than hanging out with Goten. How long has Goku been training? Vegeta is a better husband AND father than Goku. At least Vegeta refused to take part in the tournament because he wanted to be there for Bulma until Bulla was born. If I remember correctly, Goku was trying to talk him out of it, so we know what Goku would have done.

      Isn't weird how Goku became less of a good father in his later years, but Vegeta improved over time?

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    • Goku saved Gohan....Goku spent time with his family before Raditz arrived, he helped Gohan push his limits...He didn’t mind that Gohan became a scholar. He treats Goten like his son, and wanted to bring him along to train, Goku is busy training to become stronger and to protect his family. Saying Goku is a bad father is like saying someone who goes to war is a bad father. Vegeta was a terrible father at first but improved.

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    • Goku doesn't care about his family. He cares about fighting.

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    • Except Goku is NOT at war. He's just trainng to get stronger. ALL THE TIME.

      We seem to be forgetting that it's not Goku getting stronger to fight the next villain, but more allong the lines, Goku's constant growth as a warrior invites challenge. Goku Black is the perfect pcture of this. Beerus showed up because he predicted a warrior that could match him. Frieza came to Earth because he wanted revenge on the man who killed him. Goku was strongest, so Beerus had him fight for U7. Zamasu saw Goku fight on god-tube abd decided to hijack his body. After this, the tournament of power was created BECAUSE Goku caught Zeno's eye AND because he suggested a tournament. Even the Buu saga was because of the Saiyans and their power. Babidi got his power to revive Buu from Gohan Goku and Vegeta. The Cell saga happened because Goku destroyed the Red Ribbon Army with his strength. The Namek Saga happened because of the Saiyan Saga which happened because Goku was a strong Saiyan. Goku and his constant growth is what CAUSES the Earth to go through these criseses. Even Vegeta at this point is only trying to get stronger because he's afraid that Frieza might come back. Vegeta is conent with his power, but Goku, who is already the strongest in the multiverse is STILL trying to grow stronger. WHY?

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    • Ya Boi King Kai wrote:
      Except Goku is NOT at war. He's just trainng to get stronger. ALL THE TIME.

      We seem to be forgetting that it's not Goku getting stronger to fight the next villain, but more allong the lines, Goku's constant growth as a warrior invites challenge. Goku Black is the perfect pcture of this. Beerus showed up because he predicted a warrior that could match him. Frieza came to Earth because he wanted revenge on the man who killed him. Goku was strongest, so Beerus had him fight for U7. Zamasu saw Goku fight on god-tube abd decided to hijack his body. After this, the tournament of power was created BECAUSE Goku caught Zeno's eye AND because he suggested a tournament. Even the Buu saga was because of the Saiyans and their power. Babidi got his power to revive Buu from Gohan Goku and Vegeta. The Cell saga happened because Goku destroyed the Red Ribbon Army with his strength. The Namek Saga happened because of the Saiyan Saga which happened because Goku was a strong Saiyan. Goku and his constant growth is what CAUSES the Earth to go through these criseses. Even Vegeta at this point is only trying to get stronger because he's afraid that Frieza might come back. Vegeta is conent with his power, but Goku, who is already the strongest in the multiverse is STILL trying to grow stronger. WHY?

      Pride. Jiren is also more powerful than him. He only loses to Goku if Goku tries to kill himself: Ultra Instinct.

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    • Goku had a rage boost from Jiren throwing that Blast at the stands, before that Rage Boost he couldn't gain the edge over Jiren, and his only edge was speed once he had the Rage Boost as Jiren couldn't keep up in that aspect. Jiren is the true strongest mortal, Broly is number 2

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    • I agree. Broly couldn't think properly when he was in his LSSJ form. Jiren... well... we saw what he did with Kale, and even if Broly is one thousand times more powerfull... Jiren will just use his full power form to beat him... that is unless fan-service comes into play. People like Broly more, so Broly would probably win.

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    • Broly, from what we've seen, only has the potential to be more powerful than Jiren... But if he fought Moro and whoever is next then he'll quickly surpass him

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    • It's true that Broly grows ncredbly fast. His power is a natural ability that he was born with. There is no telling how much power he could gain if he trained like Goku. If Broly could control it and could learn to move faster with it, he might have a chance against Jiren; but as it stands now, I doubt that he could over take him.

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    • Broly's power stopped growing at an extraordinary rate when he went LSS and fought Gogeta, he was unable to close the power gap at all and in fact was losing power by the time Gogeta charged the Kamehameha.. the novel even mentions that, any kind of power Broly gains after will be from the Zenkai from fighting Gogeta and then training and it won't be magical leaps in power like he had in the movie

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    • Hmmm... didn't know that. Broly still hasn't trained a bit though in a meaningful way. Now that he's with Goku, there's no telling how strong he'll get.

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