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  • We’ve all seen how strong Gohan is and the same for Jiren. However, Gohan has gone toe to toe with SSBKK Goku in the anime and a Legendary Super Saiyan Fusion in the manga all in base form. Take your pick as to which is more impressive.

    What if this power house revoked his “evolving as a human” and went SSB? Could he defeat even the likes of Jiren? I’m interested as to you alls thoughts.

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    • Gohan as a Potential Unleashed SSGSS would at the least be able to fight Jiren 1v1 without the need for some asspull bs like Ultra Instinct, Gohan has bottomless power and potential so if he actually trained and mastered the form before fighting Jiren he may just end up winning. Gohan needs to be held back by plot so Goku and Vegeta can stay at the front lines so sadly, we will never see this kind of Gohan

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    • I think he may come back into the limelight in the Moro arc. I agree completely though, Gohan matched Goku’s strongest form in his base form and has a plethora of different transformations he could use but doesn’t because he has a habit of losing control. Personally I think Gohan would win by a good amount.

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    • We've always been told that Gohan has even more potential than Goku, myabe he could. I wonder if he could reach LSSJ too though. He has incredible potential just like Broly. He has demonstrated in the earlier episodes of Z (Filler though) to be able to use a sort of Ikari mode, when hi tail was growing back, to the point where even Piccolo had problems with it. This may be off topic, so if you want to ignor that last part, please do.

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    • Gohan wouldn't need LSS, he has his potential unleashed power and he can then use it alongside other forms according to the Super Anime. I think Gohan should get SS4, he and the form are perfect for each other and it matches his statement to his father that he is aiming for an ultimate form that nobody has seen before.

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    • ...I thought most other forms of Super Saiyan came with Potential Unleashed built in.

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    • No, only ss3 and ss4 do

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    • Gohan getting the LSS form would be unimaginably powerful, as it is only the result of SS and Wrath State he could also add SSR to become even more powerful. Definitely not off topic. Definitely broken powerful. The reason I picked SSB is because as far as MUI and LSS go SSB is a massive boost but not as massive as these two forms, but honestly even a SSR Gohan would be broken powerful. He stalemated a fusion of LSS and a U6 SS in what is essentially his base form. Gohan is possibly the strongest DB character to date.

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    • If Gohan had gone SSB, he probably could have gone toe-to-toe with Broly, and might have even come out on top! Remember how he fought OG Broly in second coming, and how good he did there while fighting pretty much all on his own? That was before Potential Unleashed which I estimate to have the power of SSJ3 without the strain (Just speculation). It would be awesome to watch and would be a call back to the OG Broly's second movie, just as Dragon Ball Super: Broly was a bit of a call back to the original first Broly movie.

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    • Gohan from M10 never stopped training after Cell, he even says so in the Jap dub. Daizenshuu confirms SS Broly from M10 is stronger than SS Goku Buu Saga. Gohan was going toe to toe with a disadvantage against SS Broly while in base form, he then goes SS2 and Broly goes LSS. Gohan's power as a SS2 here should be higher than Buu Saga Goku's with SS3 yet LSS Broly still thrashed him quite easily.

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    • Gohan doesn’t say he has been training since Cell saga he says he’s gotten stronger. This could be in reference to the achievement of SS2. Though keep in mind Toei doesn’t do scaling or storytelling extremely well, they made this movie before Buu saga showed Gohan had gotten weaker so it’s entirely possible they just assumed Gohan had gotten stronger, or that he simply was referring to the use of SS2. Also keep in mind how strong LSS Broly was in the first movie which was before the zenkai of being punched into a star.

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    • He says he has gotten stronger in reference to fighting Broly 7 years ago, he is fighting in his base form when he says this as he is fighting SS Broly, who Gohan also says is just as strong as he was back then basically. Meaning SS M10 Broly is almost as strong as LSS M8 Broly was. Goku knew about SS2 Kid Gohan and still told SSFP Kid Gohan to flee meaning SS2 Kid Gohan wasn't strong enough to beat M8 LSS Broly at all.

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    • M8 Gohan wasn't Super Saiyan 2. He was Mastered Super Saiyan. M8 is placed a couple weeks before the Cell games in the timeline. That explains how Goku is actually alive in the movie. Doesn't explain how Goku could have known Kaioken and was alive on Earth when Turles attacked though. Know what I mean?

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    • I didn't say he used SS2 in M8, Goku knew about Gohan having SS2 already yet he tells Gohan to run, while on the other hand he knew Gohan with SS2 could beat Cell and SPCell.

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    • Oh. My bad. I always assumed that LSSJ was about the same mutiplier as SSJ3. But if it's true that it's just SSJ X Oozaru X10, that would mean that LSSJ is 500X. It is said that SSJ C-Type isjust SSJ and Wrathful state (oozaru) mixed. But if SSJ C-Type SSJ 50X multiplied By Ikari X10, then what does that make LSSJ? 5000X? Since LSSJ is also called SSJFP (Super Saiyan Full Power) When we already have a FPSSJ (Full Power Super SSJ/ LSSJ)? ...I might have gotten the names backwards. Mastered Super Saiyan is one of them, and I believe it to be 100X base as opposed to SSJ's 50X. What do you all think?

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    • LSS seems to be SSFP and GA's 10x power up together, while C-type is plain old SS and GGA's power together.

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    • So about a 1000X power up. That's what it would seem to me. You?

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    • At least that

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    • But that's only LSSJ 1. We know that LSSJ has at least 3 forms. Would they also recieve the same multipliers as the regular forms? Such as LSSJ2= 2000X And SSJ3= 8000X?

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    • LSS2 doesn't actually exist as there is only one card for it and thats all it is is a card, the transformation line that is shown for the LSS forms are SS C-type (aka SS), SS B-type(aka LSS/SSFP), LSS3 and LSS4.

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    • Well, I mean Kale and what was supposed to have been in Dragon Ball: Broly- Second coming. Of course, in the second Broly movie, it was never stated that it was LSSJ2. Kale however was said to have been in LSSJ2.

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    • It was just called True Legendary Super Saiyan in the preview, and in the actual episodes it was simply Legendary Super Saiyan but she managed to control the power 100% and master it unleashing even more of it. In fact the animators have also called the Legendary Super Saiyan form Super Saiyan 2

      Super Saiyan 2[5]



      Seems SS B-type/LSS is not only SSFP but it replaces Super Saiyan 2 in the Legendary transformation line with SS C-type being the equivalent of SS1 itself. So LSS may be even stronger than what we thought it was earlier.

      https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Legendary_Super_Saiyan#Trivia

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    • Hmmm... Legendary Super Saiyan is ACTUALLY a form of Super Saiyan 2? That's an interesting theory. Super Saiyan C-Type does take alot from Super Saiyan 1 and is said to only be a wrathful Saiyan who has gone Super Saiyan. However LSSJ is called Super Saiyan Full Power these days, which, to me, means that it's the Full power of the Super Saiyan form. Here's my reasoning useing your idea which ACTUALLY makes a lot of sense. Super Saiyan C-Type is the Super Saiyan 50X multiplier times Oozaru's 10X. LSSJ (Super Saiyan Full Power) would be Mastered Super Saiyan's 100X multiplier times Oozaru's 10X (Powerwise, yet uncotrolled.). TRUE Super Saiyan is 200X multiplier times the power of Oozaru 10X This would make it TRUE LSSJ like Super Saiyan 2. But I also be lieve it could belike this. Since it all seems to be the same form, perhaps LSSJ is Super Saiyan C-Type, and what we know as LSSJ (FPSSJ) is a different grade of the same form. This would make the green haired LSSJ more like Super Saiyan 3rd Grade (While speed is not a problem here like it is for others, increased volume of Ki becomes dangerous) TRUE LSSJ that Kale obtained would be like Mastered Super Saiyan. It's just as powerful as SSJ 3rd grade, but has no draw backs, as the user has mastered the form and negated any cons (Such as dangerously increased volume of ki.)

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