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  • Do you guys think its possible for cell to obtain ultra instinct? I dont know if its possible because ultra instinct is completely different from anything like super Saiyan or other transformations we’ve seen before. I mean ultra instinct is a “state” with difficulty of mastering it, so difficult even the gods have trouble with achieving that state, Thereby even if cell has goku’s cells i dont think he can achieve it simply through goku’s dna alone. Idk what do you guys think?

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    • I don't think it's possible. Gohan and Goten have Goku's DNA and I don't see either of them getting it.

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    • UI seems to have something to do with letting go of some sort of pride, since Vegeta doesn’t do it Cell shouldn’t either.

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    • The manga showed the keys to it, Goku happened to get the right kind of training over and over unknowingly making it possible for him to get UI. No other Saiyan has had those trainings.

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    • FlatZone wrote:
      The manga showed the keys to it being done in the manga.

      Edited for accuracy.

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    • Seeing as the anime gave no keys for it being accessed, it’s safe to assume the manga way applies. It’s not contradicting anything after all.

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    • @Nerve Ship No, there are specific panels showing what trainings were key for it. Mr. Popo's training sessions for example were key too. Go back and read the chapter again. So you removed parts of my post in your repost for no reason.

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    • BEcause the manga and anime are different and it's premature to assume that they followe the same logic.

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    • Everyone can achieve UI even Yamcha UI is a state, not transformation exclusive for some races like super saiyan

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    • Everyone can attain the technique of UI, only Saiyans can attain the silver haired form that grants the use UI as only a Saiyan has been seen in the form.

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    • Cell is too arrogant to believe he needs to train and therefore will never obtain Ultra Instinct. His sense of super pride is his biggest flaw. Unless he has been humbled by his death and realizes he needs to work more on himself.

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    • Cell would have been humbled by his death just like Frieza was. He would have to actually train like he means it for the first time in his life and he would grow to a different dimension of power just like Frieza did.. his new power should put him in league with Goku, Vegeta and Frieza.

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    • yes it is , if he trained with whis [which would never happen] and he got hit by a very powerful attack like goku did . then it is possible for cell to attian ul. but also ul is not a sayian form , so cell would not need his sayian cells to get ul , he would just need proper traning

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    • FlatZone wrote: Cell would have been humbled by his death just like Frieza was. He would have to actually train like he means it for the first time in his life and he would grow to a different dimension of power just like Frieza did.. his new power should put him in league with Goku, Vegeta and Frieza.

      Cant train in bell.

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    • mental image training, frieza did that too

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    • FlatZone wrote:
      mental image training, frieza did that too

      That didn't make him stronger. That gave him control, which made the strength he already had better.

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    • It made him stronger too, as Goku said in the anime and the manga.

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    • Stronger in that sense that he's a more powerful opponent because the strength he had before is focused.

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    • Explain to me how daydreaming makes one stronger in a dimension that is supposed to forbid that from happening at all.

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    • Ask the series that, image training increases ones power level and energy control ability.. obviously it shouldn't work as fast as actual training but all the time spent in Hell was enough for Frieza and would be enough for Cell too.

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    • Provided that that’s something he knows how to do. Did his components Learn before or after his creation?

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    • Goku, Gohan, Tien, and Krillin knew before their dna was gathered by the bot. Cell should know, and considering he would NEVER repent and his hatred for Gohan, he would be in a pod somewhere doing image training like Frieza did the second time he was put in the pod.

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    • It just sounds so... dumb. Like calling a magenta-haired super saiyan god "super saiyan red" levels of dumb.

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    • Goten called it that, so did Caulifla and Kale.. but yeah Super Saiyan Red is def not what it is.. in fact the name Super Saiyan God for the form is dumb.. I think it should be called Saiyan God, and when it mixed with Super Saiyan is when it should become Super Saiyan God aka Super Saiyan Blue or Super Saiyan Rose.

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    • i think we are losing track of the main topic?

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    • Cell himself hasn't done the same trainings as Goku, so him using UI is not likely at all. Him tapping into his Frieza DNA and gaining a "Golden Cell" form may happen instead considering that SSGod or SSBlue Cell can't happen.. Cell would need to train with Goku, Vegeta, an Angel, or a GoD to get God Ki, or have some saiyans help him with the ritual.. and none of those things will happen. So More likely Cell will attain Golden Cell form if anything.

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    • if frezia jumped from ssj level to ssgss level in a few months by traning then imagine what cell can do . cell has frezia,s dna

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    • Cell pisses me off, having the DNA could mean being able to use the abilites (not really). However, Gohan and Goten have Goku's DNA and they will never have Ultra Instinct. Trunks and Bra have Vegeta's DNA and neither one of them will ever get to SSGSSE. King Cold has Frieza's DNA and he'll never be gold. 

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Cell pisses me off, having the DNA could mean being able to use the abilites (not really). However, Gohan and Goten have Goku's DNA and they will never have Ultra Instinct. Trunks and Bra have Vegeta's DNA and neither one of them will ever get to SSGSSE. King Cold has Frieza's DNA and he'll never be gold. 

      It actually is possible for Cold to become Golden, since both his sons can do it.

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    • If they don't reproduce asexually, the half of the DNA they get from their mom might be the key to it.

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    • https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/King_Cold#Power Cold if he actually trained to master his power and forms etc. could get the Super Evolution, and the Golden Form.

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