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  • Aside from Jiren vs Broly, how about Broly vs Kefla. How does this fight end?

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    • I think Kefla would keep Broly busy, but that would be it.

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    • I think he'd body her like he did Frieza

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    • Kefla land a few solid hits and then be demolished.

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    • Kefla has 0 chance.

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    • LSSJ2 Kefla is weaker than UI 2 Goku.Broly Berserker is way stronger than UI2 Goku.Broly Berserker wins.

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    • Everyone else gained more power after the ToP, why wouldn’t Kale and Caulifla??

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    • Well like you said before she probably would have like Goku and Vegeta, so she’d probably land a few solid hits then get demolished.

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    • Wrathful Broly would clobbered Kefla SS2 as he did Goku SSG.

      If Goku wasn't exhausted he could have easily taken out Kefla in SSG form. As per manga Kefla is equal to Ultimate Gohan who is currently stronger than Buu saga SSJ Vegetto.

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    • Kefla doesn't stand a chance against Broly.

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    • Gogeta Omni wrote:
      Wrathful Broly would clobbered Kefla SS2 as he did Goku SSG.

      If Goku wasn't exhausted he could have easily taken out Kefla in SSG form. As per manga Kefla is equal to Ultimate Gohan who is currently stronger than Buu saga SSJ Vegetto.

      I don't agree, since the anime as the first thing produced should take precedence and you can't use whta is said in the manga as true for the anime and viceversa, but you typed "could have" so I kudos'd you because you used have like a person who understands the english language.

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    • Goku being tired was a misused and bs plot point. He def was not tired as he used Blue over and over again. I say at most he just couldn't use his full power is all. SS2 Kefla from vs Ultra Instinct Sign Goku is definitely above SSG Goku and SSB Goku.

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    • Agreed. Also wrathful isn't a part of SSJ since Kale wasn't in Wrathful state when she transformed (we know because she followed the steps Cabba taught them)

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    • I think in the movie, the reason Broly's SS and LSS forms were so powerful was BECAUSE he was stacking Wrathful with them. Kind of like Goku stacking Kaioken x10 with Super Saiyan Blue. Wrathful is not a key component of the forms, it can simply be stacked with them.

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    • Hmm, I thought the reason why was because of how powerful he is naturally, and that his nature is exactly what a super saiyan is supposed to be powered by.

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    • That was his base power being so affected by his nature and his genes, his multipliers for his SS forms were 10x boosted thanks to Wrathful being stacked with them. As we saw Kale who does not have Wrathful, her LSS is above SS3 Goku but under SSG Goku. Broly has Wrathful state, and is much stronger than her in base form. So his transformations got 10x more powerful thanks to being stacked with the Wrathful form.

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    • Base Broly powered up upto stronger than post TOP ss2 Vegeta. Vegeta had to use SSG to beat him.

      Wrathful Broly equalled SSG Vegeta and goes toe to toe with full powered perfected SSB Goku.

      So, Clearly base to Wrathful form  multiplier of Broly is like SS2 to SSG multiplier of Vegeta, That's way beyond 10X multiplier. Minimum 1000X atleast. Moreover Broly gets stronger in each transformation during fighting.

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    • Vegeta only used SS during the movie, not SS2. But Broly in base being above SS Vegeta, but needing Wrathful to beat SSG Vegeta only shows that Broly was still getting stronger outside of the 10x multiplier and that maybe SSG is only 10x the power of SS which is probably not the case.. hopefully.

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    • Do you mean SSG Vegeta is possibly only 10X the power of SS Broly, because that was unclear.

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    • No I was saying base Broly was getting stronger the whole movie, even while in transformations. He needed wrathful which gives him 10x boost in power to beat SSG Vegeta, while on base he was barely beating SS Vegeta. Which either means his base form had a huge jump while he was in Wrathful, or SSG is only about 10x stronger than SS.

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    • Beerus' fight between SSj3 Goku and SSG Goku disproves that

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    • Kale and Caulifla would be obliterated by Broly.

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    • Or they would reach ssj4 or rage and draw him, considering how quickly they reached levels in the ToP

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    • Possibly

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