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  • Dangerous prisoners are gathered together on the Prison Planet. Goku and co. stand against an approaching menace. New Dragon Balls. Don't miss it!

    How would you rate Episode 1?
     
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    The poll was created at 18:08 on June 30, 2018, and so far 112 people voted.

    Note: Hello everyone, long time no see! The crossover show is out now! I hope all of you are excited, if not then tell why below! I will be hosting episode discussions from now on, as well as manga chapters and news about the community of Dragon Ball, as it is vital to any wiki and to attempt revive the discussions forums after my hiatus.

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    • Why make this thread before the episode has even aired? :S

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    • Orion Invictus wrote:
      Why make this thread before the episode has even aired? :S

      Wikis tend to do this, you know to have people share their thoughts before the episode, then after people will come back to share their thoughts after they watched the episode. Ya know! ;)

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    • Should we really count this series as a successor anime to Dragon Ball Super? This seems to be focused more on the Xenoverse games timeline than the actual anime timeline.

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    • Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Should we really count this series as a successor anime to Dragon Ball Super? This seems to be focused more on the Xenoverse games timeline than the actual anime timeline.

      No.

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    • Having the episode post before the episode will also hopefully make it so that we don't have 4 topics on the same thing

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    • Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Should we really count this series as a successor anime to Dragon Ball Super? This seems to be focused more on the Xenoverse games timeline than the actual anime timeline.

      We shall see...but according to Herms' translation on a more detailed preview and the manga itself, it does seem to take place after the Universe Survival Saga as we know that the Prison Planet takes place in the other Future Trunks timeline.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote:

      Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Should we really count this series as a successor anime to Dragon Ball Super? This seems to be focused more on the Xenoverse games timeline than the actual anime timeline.

      No.

      Okay, so why is it that we've got this episode occurring right after The Miraculous Conclusion! Farewell, Goku! Until We Meet Again! on the latter's infobox?

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    • No idea. It shouldn't be seeing as how DBH is completely unrelated to Super.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: No idea. It shouldn't be seeing as how DBH is completely unrelated to Super.

      Only thing I know is that apparently Neffyarious was responsible for adding it to the infobox.

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    • Well someone should tell him the DBH Anime isn't related to Super in any way. Just because it takes place after Super doesn't mean its a continuation of Super. DBH also takes place after GT, yet its not a continuation of GT. GT takes place after Super (chronological that is), but its not a continuation of Super.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote:
      Well someone should tell him the DBH Anime isn't related to Super in any way. Just because it takes place after Super doesn't mean its a continuation of Super. DBH also takes place after GT, yet its not a continuation of GT. GT takes place after Super (chronological that is), but its not a continuation of Super.

      No, it doesn't take place after GT, maybe in a form but Goku: Xeno has a different timeline than any of the Gokus so.....and again, the manga literally states outright that the Prison Planet takes place in the timeline created by Whis in the anime and Future Trunks himself in the manga. And this Trunks is shown to be after the "Future" Trunks Saga so it's a direct successor to that saga yet still in a form a successor to Super. But again we shall see the anime will most likely have differences to the manga.

      But aside from that, any thooughts on this episode so far? What did you guys think of the preview?

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    • First of all this is not the successor to dragon ball super, it is just a promotional anime for dragon ball heroes, a Japan exclusive game, full of all sorts of fan service like ssj4 broly, ssj3 future trunks, adult gotenks, ssj3 bardock, super saiyan kaioken vegito, really, and so much more, it isn't the successor to dragon ball super, I think it's just filling the gap of no dragon ball content until the movie and a new show or a continuation of dragon ball super, thankfully we get to have ssj4 vs ssjb settled, those gt fanboys would not let that go, and I swear to Zeno if they complain it's non-cannon I will RIP their brains out, GT IS NON-CANNON

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote: No, it doesn't take place after GT

      Yes it does. Online, Xenoverse, and DBH all chronologically take place after GT, just like it does with Super.

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    • OK guys Episode 1 is out! Can't wait to hear what you guys think!

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    • Hmm..too sad non japan viewers can't see this episode....

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    • Mystery idiot 50 wrote: Hmm..too sad non japan viewers can't see this episode....

      Well, you can see the Eng subs on YouTube I believe. Saw one but my ph9ne doesn't have Internet at the moment so I couldn't watch it yet.

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    • Someone else uploaded it but without subs of course.

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    • Bullza wrote: Someone else uploaded it but without subs of course.

      Ohhhh....I see. Maybe that is a big turn off for a lot of non japan fans. I mean if you like DB no matter what it is I still recommend to watch it. You can still understand the basic story you don't have to listen to diologue in order to feel for a show. Like how some music is played without words yet you feel for it and several cartoons that are silent most of the time yet give a lot of emotion.

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    • 8 minutes and 45 seconds. The intro lasts for 1 minute and 30 seconds, and the outro (including the """preview""" for the next episode) lasts for 20 seconds. In total, that's 6 minutes and 55 seconds of actual episode time. This is the most disappointing Dragon Ball experience I've ever had. It felt more like a promo than an actual episode.

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    • All in all just way too short. Barely anything to form an opinion on.

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    • Wow, it was really bad, who could have possibly guessed.

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    • Come on guys. It already been stated that this is some kind of promo video. We already expected this rite? For me this is wayyy better than nothing. At the very least I have something to wait for this UM new episode until the movie this Dec.

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote: OK guys Episode 1 is out! Can't wait to hear what you guys think!

      Its the best. Thumb up

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    • Omegamon wrote: Come on guys. It already been stated that this is some kind of promo video. We already expected this rite? For me this is wayyy better than nothing. At the very least I have something to wait for this UM new episode until the movie this Dec.

      It has? Where? Also, if it was just a promo, it's still kinda dumb to air it as an episode. It'd do a lot better as an actual promo, especially considering how short it is.

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    • Orion Invictus wrote: 8 minutes and 45 seconds. The intro lasts for 1 minute and 30 seconds, and the outro (including the """preview""" for the next episode) lasts for 20 seconds. In total, that's 6 minutes and 55 seconds of actual episode time. This is the most disappointing Dragon Ball experience I've ever had. It felt more like a promo than an actual episode.

      Hey dude quality over quantity. These animators and artists are getting rushed all the time. Renember DBS episode 5? We don't want another disaster like that do you?

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    • Stryzzar wrote: All in all just way too short. Barely anything to form an opinion on.

      You can form a good opinion on short stories man. Short cartoons are everywhere these days. Though I'm curious to hear why you think this.

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    • Omegamon wrote: Come on guys. It already been stated that this is some kind of promo video. We already expected this rite? For me this is wayyy better than nothing. At the very least I have something to wait for this UM new episode until the movie this Dec.

      IKR? I thought it was pretty intresting. And it serves its purpose well, unlike one mainstream show that was probably one of the worst midquels/prequels I've ever seen. F**ked up the entire continuity, when it answered questions that didn't need answering it was dissapointing, and got old very fast, it just put every problem about DB on full display. Not going into specifics on the episode until someone else talks more about their opinion. Hey, I wonder what's your favorite part of the episode?

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      Orion Invictus wrote: 8 minutes and 45 seconds. The intro lasts for 1 minute and 30 seconds, and the outro (including the """preview""" for the next episode) lasts for 20 seconds. In total, that's 6 minutes and 55 seconds of actual episode time. This is the most disappointing Dragon Ball experience I've ever had. It felt more like a promo than an actual episode.

      Hey dude quality over quantity. These animators and artists are getting rushed all the time. Renember DBS episode 5? We don't want another disaster like that do you?

      Quality over quantity would be the case if we had fewer episodes at the normal length. This is like claiming you had sex when you only got the tip in

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Quality over quantity would be the case if we had fewer episodes at the normal length. This is like claiming you had sex when you only got the tip in

      What I mean about that is you can still nail in some good scenes in just a few minutes. PSAs for example are typically 1 minute yet some hit the mark and magnificent scenes. And for a wiki like this for example it's better if a user can do one good thing every day than someone whose a nuisance to everyone around them for 24 hours.

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      Omegamon wrote: Come on guys. It already been stated that this is some kind of promo video. We already expected this rite? For me this is wayyy better than nothing. At the very least I have something to wait for this UM new episode until the movie this Dec.

      IKR? I thought it was pretty intresting. And it serves its purpose well, unlike one mainstream show that was probably one of the worst midquels/prequels I've ever seen. F**ked up the entire continuity, when it answered questions that didn't need answering it was dissapointing, and got old very fast, it just put every problem about DB on full display. Not going into specifics on the episode until someone else talks more about their opinion. Hey, I wonder what's your favorite part of the episode?

      For obvious reason all of it. LOL. Like goku vs goku, Fu effortlessly deflect SSJ4 goku atk how strong this guy is, Cooler and Cold and Bojack, spoiler kanba vs vegito ssb kaiokennnnnnnn

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      Orion Invictus wrote: 8 minutes and 45 seconds. The intro lasts for 1 minute and 30 seconds, and the outro (including the """preview""" for the next episode) lasts for 20 seconds. In total, that's 6 minutes and 55 seconds of actual episode time. This is the most disappointing Dragon Ball experience I've ever had. It felt more like a promo than an actual episode.

      Hey dude quality over quantity. These animators and artists are getting rushed all the time. Renember DBS episode 5? We don't want another disaster like that do you?

      True, quality over quantity. I just wish we had any quantity to speak of. This entire episode was an establishing scene, which typically takes about 25% to 50% of a pilot episode (the first episode of a series), and even if I just consider it an establishing "episode", it felt rushed. We learned the setting of the new series, but nothing actually happened.

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote: All in all just way too short. Barely anything to form an opinion on.

      You can form a good opinion on short stories man. Short cartoons are everywhere these days. Though I'm curious to hear why you think this.

      It just didn't live up to the hype. SSJ4 VS SSB was used to sell this episode, and while I got really excited frog the promos. In the actual episode it's like "wait that's it?" they barely did anything.

      Though I take it you seem to be immensely enjoying this series because it's not Super.

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    • The pacing was atrocious.

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    • It was 8 minutes there was practically no pacing to begin with

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    • dope episode

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    • give it a break. it clearly stated promo anime. better than nothing. i like dragon ball yeah. spread peace not hate. i believe anyone who likes dragon ball is a good guy.

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    • “Nothing” is better than “so short it might as well be nothing”. This wasn’t an episode. It was a minisode.

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    • just call it whatever it is. i understand people have opinion and i respect it. for me im very thankful there is something. i just want more of dragon ball. even when there is no super yet i watch dbh trailers even though it just a trailer. peace

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    • NervousShipper wrote: “Nothing” is better than “so short it might as well be nothing”. This wasn’t an episode. It was a minisode.

      Felt more like an extended trailer you see in movie theaters.

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    • Omegamon wrote:
      give it a break. it clearly stated promo anime. better than nothing. i like dragon ball yeah. spread peace not hate. i believe anyone who likes dragon ball is a good guy.

      this sounds like naruto saying that any person that likes ramen is a good guy lol

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    • Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:

      Omegamon wrote:
      give it a break. it clearly stated promo anime. better than nothing. i like dragon ball yeah. spread peace not hate. i believe anyone who likes dragon ball is a good guy.

      this sounds like naruto saying that any person that likes ramen is a good guy lol

      sono toori...LOL

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    • what lol id speak jap son lol

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    • but u do know thats jap dad lol

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    • ....or do i??

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    • I won't be turned off the whole series just for this. I'll still give that a chance and still curious what will happen there. But they could have made this one a little longer.

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    • Stryzzar wrote: I won't be turned off the whole series just for this. I'll still give that a chance and still curious what will happen there. But they could have made this one a little longer.

      Thats the saiyan spirits. Always push the limits. LOL

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    • they almost die before pushing the limits, so try not to die

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    • Stryzzar wrote: I won't be turned off the whole series just for this. I'll still give that a chance and still curious what will happen there. But they could have made this one a little longer.

      Same. Even if its bad, I'm still gonna watch all of it. I've kinda committed to watching literally every DB series, specials, and movies so I kinda got no choice lol.

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    • lol

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    • Stryzzar wrote:

      SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote: All in all just way too short. Barely anything to form an opinion on.

      You can form a good opinion on short stories man. Short cartoons are everywhere these days. Though I'm curious to hear why you think this.

      It just didn't live up to the hype. SSJ4 VS SSB was used to sell this episode, and while I got really excited frog the promos. In the actual episode it's like "wait that's it?" they barely did anything.

      Though I take it you seem to be immensely enjoying this series because it's not Super.

      I mean, I said it was intresting but overall this episode was OK. For a pilot epusode with a 6 minute time limit it did alright. I mean I've seen worse pilots with 4 times the runtime so....And on the plus side it served its purpose. Unlike the show before it where its purpose is to tell a good story and serve as a midquel between the time gap set in the end of Z. And like most midquels and prequels it failed miserbly. And unlike you I had my expectations to an OK amount. I was excited yes but not by the battle between Ssj4 and Ssj Blue (because a lot of advertised scenes tend to be exaggerated and only show a portion of what's to come) but by how they could create a crossover event between DBH and DBS. And I was satisfied because they kinda picked the DBS characters where they left off and set up the universe decently with the runtime it had and als9 had some exciting scenes despite again the battle of ssj 4 and ssj blue being not as long as you expect. So yeah I kinda enjoyed it better than Super because its served its purpose well unlike the midquel that screwed with continuity and didn't add any dimension to the characters like a prequel or midquel should and a lot of the questions that didn't need answering got answered, I was disappointed.

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    • Well I guess if you go in with the bar lowered then you could potentially enjoy it more. For me there was just a lot of hype backlash. I mean I've watched (most?) of the Dragon Ball Heroes trailers and those were overall a lot more entertaining.

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    • Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Should we really count this series as a successor anime to Dragon Ball Super? This seems to be focused more on the Xenoverse games timeline than the actual anime timeline.

      it isn't the successor anime to Super, its just a promotional anime for Super Dragon Ball Heroes. This will be counted as Non-Canon in the Dragon Ball Super Universe, The succesor to the anime will be the Dragon Ball Super Movie which comes out on December 14th.

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    • ZakuRosou wrote:

      Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Should we really count this series as a successor anime to Dragon Ball Super? This seems to be focused more on the Xenoverse games timeline than the actual anime timeline.

      it isn't the successor anime to Super, its just a promotional anime for Super Dragon Ball Heroes. This will be counted as Non-Canon in the Dragon Ball Super Universe, The succesor to the anime will be the Dragon Ball Super Movie which comes out on December 14th.

      Wanna bet?

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    • Super isn't an interquel, it's a sequel and retcon for the end.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Super isn't an interquel, it's a sequel and retcon for the end.

      Not really a retcon, considering Universe 7 clearly still exists after the tournament of power (I knew it was going to win thanks to End of Z, it wasn't even suspenseful, just a long, painful, and ultimately pointless arc). Now, had Universe 7 lost AND gotten erased, THEN it would have been a retcon. And technically, it's an interquel since it still takes place between the Majin Buu saga and the latter half of the Peaceful World Saga, the official end of the series.

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    • More of a replacement than an interquel. Super only came into existence because of GT's reception.

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    • Stryzzar wrote: More of a replacement than an interquel. Super only came into existence because of GT's reception.

      Are you forgetting the Peaceful World Saga that clearly occurs after Super (since Trunks and Goten are adults in the latter, not to mention Pan and Bra are little kids instead of toddlers)?

      Also, technically, Super only came into existence as a result of the negative reception of Dragonball Evolution, not GT (GT was barely two decades before Super was even an idea, heck, before Battle of Gods was an idea, even, and that movie alongside Resurrection F, while technically part of the Z franchise, is pretty much what jump-started the existence of Super.).

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: It was 8 minutes there was practically no pacing to begin with

      which is why its amazing that it's so bad

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    • There's a 50/50 chance End of Z will be retconned. There's just so much continuity problems for that to flawlessly connect.

      True enough, I'll give you the bit about Evolution. But why did they set Super before GT? If there was no problem with GT they would have set it after Goku left with Shenron or something.

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    • Stryzzar wrote: There's a 50/50 chance End of Z will be retconned. There's just so much continuity problems for that to flawlessly connect.

      True enough, I'll give you the bit about Evolution. But why did they set Super before GT? If there was no problem with GT they would have set it after Goku left with Shenron or something.

      I doubt it. They had a perfect chance of retconning it by keeping Kid Buu dead (ie, not even reincarnate him), not to mention removing Bulla and Pan from existence, yet they kept them in, and even indirectly alluded to Uub during the Tournament of Power saga. Besides, I've seen far worse continuity problems between portions of Dragon Ball Z (like for example, Super Perfect Cell claiming in both the Japanese anime as well as the manga that he was able to regenerate so long as his head remained intact, despite him regenerating from Goku's Warp Kamehameha, which had blown off the top half of Cell, head included) than between End of Z and Super, and all without even being slightly being considered non-canon/retconned.

      So far as GT, who knows what Toriyama was thinking when he did that for Super?

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    • Stryzzar wrote: There's a 50/50 chance End of Z will be retconned. There's just so much continuity problems for that to flawlessly connect.

      True enough, I'll give you the bit about Evolution. But why did they set Super before GT? If there was no problem with GT they would have set it after Goku left with Shenron or something.

      Because GT ended with almost everyone dead of old age, and Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. just aren't that compelling.

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    • Obviously before that Goku Vegeta Jr stuff. Right after Goku left.

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    • We didn't forget about End of Z. Were saying it's been retconned. A retcon doesn't have to be universe shattering. It can be as simple as a change in birth dates

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    • Stryzzar wrote: Obviously before that Goku Vegeta Jr stuff. Right after Goku left.

      Then it'd have to exclude Goku, who's the face of the franchise.

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    • Didn't stop Toriyama from trying twice and this time fans would have actually welcomed it. The best episode of GT was easily the one with no Goku.

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    • so in the end it come down to this again. mata onaji pattern ka. i just want to state my opinion, i think one of the reason this promo anime UM is created might be due to combine both super and gt.thats y we got 2 gokus. so in a way we can say that both gt and super is official or what people been calling canon. this consider if goku become time patol after gt. my theory please no sarcasm peace lol

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    • NervousShipper wrote: We didn't forget about End of Z. Were saying it's been retconned. A retcon doesn't have to be universe shattering. It can be as simple as a change in birth dates

      Still dont think the end of Z has ben retconned. Super never got to the end of Z, so it couldn't have changed anything.

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    • Stryzzar wrote: Didn't stop Toriyama from trying twice and this time fans would have actually welcomed it. The best episode of GT was easily the one with no Goku.

      Last I heard, those were fan rumors/speculations, and not something Toriyama actually said.

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    • Omegamon wrote: so in the end it come down to this again. mata onaji pattern ka. i just want to state my opinion, i think one of the reason this promo anime UM is created might be due to combine both super and gt.thats y we got 2 gokus. so in a way we can say that both gt and super is official or what people been calling canon. this consider if goku become time patol after gt. my theory please no sarcasm peace lol

      The hell does "mata onaji pattern ka" mean? English, please.

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    • Apparently it means in addition or to make up for so idk why hes using it there

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    • NervousShipper wrote: We didn't forget about End of Z. Were saying it's been retconned. A retcon doesn't have to be universe shattering. It can be as simple as a change in birth dates

      Yes, actually, it DOES have to be universe shattering. Even changing birth dates is universe shattering, due to it being a change. Let's look at Metal Gear, how it can't even keep its story straight due to Hideo Kojima constantly retconning the heck out of the series chronology, many times for no real reason other than simply because he can.

      And believe me, they would have removed Pan, Bulla, and even Uub from existence if they wanted to retcon it.

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    • LOL...warui2...what i mean is the same thing happening again same pattern here and other threads/places...i was refering to people arguing super this and gt that...i just want we accept each other. but i also believe different2 thought what makes thing more interesting. Mujun da ne

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    • Omegamon, I think you have the wrong wiki. This isn't the weeaboo one. We speak English here, and not poorly transliterated Japanese.

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    • If a birth date being changed means universe shattering, then they don't have to remove any characters to retcon the whole thing.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: If a birth date being changed means universe shattering, then they don't have to remove any characters to retcon the whole thing.

      Yeah, actually, they do. Like I said, look at Metal Gear, how it constantly retcons the heck out of things, or heck, look at Star Wars (Qui-Gon Jinn, I'm looking at you, same deal with Leia getting a good look at her mother Padme literally seconds after birth and before Padme's death despite it being heavily implied that Padme at the very least lived long enough for Leia to remember her as a child.).

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    • Why would you want me to look at a bad example of continuity as proof for your interpretation of what constitutes a continuity change?

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Why would you want me to look at a bad example of continuity as proof for your interpretation of what constitutes a continuity change?

      Because that's what continuity change entails, it's literally in the definition.

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    • There a difference between a show that occasionally changes aspects of its continuity, and a trainwreck. This is kot an example of the later, so you providing evidence from that section doesn't have any bearing here

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    • NervousShipper wrote: There a difference between a show that occasionally changes aspects of its continuity, and a trainwreck. This is kot an example of the later, so you providing evidence from that section doesn't have any bearing here

      Regardless, the fact that they directly acknowledged that Uub still exists, and in fact, part of the reason why Goku had to at the very least make sure Universe 7 won that tournament if not actually win said tournament himself dealt with his discovery of Uub having just been born and his being the reincarnation of Kid Buu. That more than proves that End of Z has NOT been retconned. Besides, are you going to call Cell all of a sudden needing his head to regenerate despite regenerating with no problems despite having the entire top half of his body blown off by the Warp Kamehameha a retcon?

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    • Z hasn't been retconned.

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    • This is the most disappointing dragon Ball content we have ever received. It's not the full length of an episode and it feels rushed. They should never have come up with this idea.

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    • Doglover456 wrote: This is the most disappointing dragon Ball content we have ever received. It's not the full length of an episode and it feels rushed. They should never have come up with this idea.

      The black star dragonball arc? The pre-Champa arcs of super?

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    • Super 17 arc? Shadow Dragon Arc?

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    • Orion Invictus wrote: Omegamon, I think you have the wrong wiki. This isn't the weeaboo one. We speak English here, and not poorly transliterated Japanese.

      Hooo is it. didnt know that. but i think ill stick to here and stay the same as I always be. ore wa ore da. btw since when we r discussing this. LOL.

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    • Doglover456 wrote: This is the most disappointing dragon Ball content we have ever received. It's not the full length of an episode and it feels rushed. They should never have come up with this idea.

      since when full length must be more than 8 minutes. ever watch kill me baby

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    • If you wanna make yourself look like an idiot, be my guest. Nobody likes weeaboos anyway.

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    • thanks

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    • Omegamon wrote:

      Orion Invictus wrote: Omegamon, I think you have the wrong wiki. This isn't the weeaboo one. We speak English here, and not poorly transliterated Japanese.

      Hooo is it. didnt know that.

      Yes it is. And now you know so you have no good excuses.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:

      Omegamon wrote:

      Orion Invictus wrote: Omegamon, I think you have the wrong wiki. This isn't the weeaboo one. We speak English here, and not poorly transliterated Japanese.

      Hooo is it. didnt know that.
      Yes it is. And now you know so you have no good excuses.

      Yare2 why do I even need any good excuses. I'm always here in this wiki since ages. Omoshiroi ne kimitachi.

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    • "Since ages"

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    • I dont think you even know what you are saying tbh.

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    • Is there an ignore feature?

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    • There should be

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    • Sooo what are u guys waiting for?

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    • What do you mean "what are we waiting for?"

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    • Nah I see u guys were discussing this ignore feature or something whatever it is. So I was like wondering what will happen after that. Seems like nothing. Subete seijo ni modoru. Happy ending.

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    • Yeah now I'm convinced you actually have no idea what you're saying. "Subete seijo ni modoru" means "Everything returns to the saint" which literally makes no sense. If you are gonna insist on speaking Japanese (or any language for that matter) you gotta actually know what you are saying.

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    • it means everything return to normal. you are smart enough to figure one word have several meanings depend on the wording rite? do research more next time. Ganbare minna

      Btw whoever wants to comment on this sdbh um episoe please do so guys. some people just wont stop

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    • NervousShipper wrote:

      Is there an ignore feature?

      Yep there is. It's called Unfollow.

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    • Omegamon wrote: Doglover456 wrote: This is the most disappointing dragon Ball content we have ever received. It's not the full length of an episode and it feels rushed. They should never have come up with this idea.

      since when full length must be more than 8 minutes. ever watch kill me baby. They could have made the episode longer than this and explaned a lot of things. They could have expanded the fight between Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Super Saiyan 4 Goku. What we saw was too short.

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    • They could have made the episode longer than this and explaned a lot of things. They could have expanded the fight between Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Super Saiyan 4 Goku. What we saw was too short.

      Agreed. Maybe they dont want to show who is more superior. Even though we already know. 10x kaioken kamehameha vs Juubai kamehameha

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: Yeah now I'm convinced you actually have no idea what you're saying. "Subete seijo ni modoru" means "Everything returns to the saint" which literally makes no sense. If you are gonna insist on speaking Japanese (or any language for that matter) you gotta actually know what you are saying.

      Weeaboos don't know Japanese outside of a few phrases that are common to Shonen cartoons, and even those they often get wrong.

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    • Omegamon wrote: it means everything return to normal. you are smart enough to figure one word have several meanings depend on the wording rite?

      I highly doubt the word "normal" can also be used as the word "saint" those two words are completely different. But even if it does mean that, that still makes no sense, and you used it without any context. What's returning to normal? And how does that even fit with the current conversation? My point still stands that you don't know what you are saying or just don't know how to use them correctly.

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    • Omegamon wrote: Agreed. Maybe they dont want to show who is more superior. Even though we already know. 10x kaioken kamehameha vs Juubai kamehameha

      We already know who is stronger. In the manga SSB beat SSJ4. SSB > SSJ4.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote:

      Omegamon wrote: it means everything return to normal. you are smart enough to figure one word have several meanings depend on the wording rite?

      I highly doubt the word "normal" can also be used as the word "saint" those two words are completely different. But even if it does mean that, that still makes no sense, and you used it without any context. What's returning to normal? And how does that even fit with the current conversation? My point still stands that you don't know what you are saying or just don't know how to use them correctly.

      Hooo naruhodo..sore de

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote:

      Omegamon wrote: Even though we already know.

      We already know who is stronger. In the manga SSB beat SSJ4. SSB > SSJ4.

      yep already mentioned we know already..no need to state the obvious thankz

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    • Kk you actually don't know what you are saying that phrase literally makes no sense. See with what? Like seriously dude.

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    • 😂...omae nani mo wakatte nai na

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    • OK you just said you don't know anything. Thanks for playing. Bye.

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    • Oh and just a tip: if you aren't actally Japanese or an actual paid translator, don't go around repeating japanese phrases you hear from anime. People will think you're weird and its a one way ticket to getting bullied and made fun of.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: Oh and just a tip: if you aren't actally Japanese or an actual paid translator, don't go around repeating japanese phrases you hear from anime. People will think you're weird and its a one way ticket to getting bullied and made fun of.

      is it?..like u guys did..like I care.. ore no kankenai

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    • ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    • Ignore him. Weeaboos would rather talk at people than talk with people, hence why they use phrases that make no sense to anyone except themselves (mainly because they're incorrect, since weeaboos do not know Japanese).

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    • yosh!!!

      so people can continue giving their thought for the episode again. sa tsuzuke mashou ka

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    • See what I mean?

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    • Yep. Fun Fact: Repeating Japanese phrases you hear from anime doesn't make you cool, funny, or Japanese. How 'bout that? 🤔

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    • sigh..mada ikite iru no ka

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    • yare2 who is it that want to look cool..ore wa soro soro genkai da..aaaa tsukareta

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: Yep. Fun Fact: Repeating Japanese phrases you hear from anime doesn't make you cool, funny, or Japanese. How 'bout that? 🤔

      No point in trying to convince him of the truth. He'll either grow out of it or turn into a shut-in with no friends.

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    • thanks a lot for the concern guys..can i go to sleep first..my time zone if different from u guys..ill continue tomorrow shinpai nai de..ashita de ne..oyasumi

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    • As someone who used to act like this way back when I was in middle school, I spoke from expirence when I tried to warn him about people bullying and making fun of him for it, but he doesn't belive me. Oh well. Rip ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    • 😵 rip

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    • Rwnp

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    • 👻

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    • Will Jiren save the day?

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    • Xeno Jiren would be beyond busted.

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    • Xeno Jiren's legs would be non-existent at that point.

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    • M3wzy wrote: Xeno Jiren's legs would be non-existent at that point.

      Now I can't stop imagining an overly buff Jiren with twigs for legs

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    • I kind of liked it. Especially the battle between Goku Xeno in Super Saiyan 4 and Goku in Super Saiyan Blue.

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    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Xe_smLgQs

      Episode 2 is up. SO much better than the first one. Fights actually felt like real fights.

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    • And the subs name him Cumber, NOT Kanba

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    • Those subs don't seem to be official, it's just Herms translating it. They could end up making the spelling different altogether.

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    • Good point

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      Those subs don't seem to be official, it's just Herms translating it. They could end up making the spelling different altogether.

      Herms is a very reliable source however

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    • Not saying he isn't. But that doesn't mean his sub naming is official.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote:
      Those subs don't seem to be official, it's just Herms translating it. They could end up making the spelling different altogether.

      Herms is a very reliable source however

      This is not a matter of translation. Names cannot be translated, which is why they're changed from their transliterations when series are dubbed. Dragon Ball is no exception.

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    • Yeah exactly, they get changed to suit whatever language it's being dubbed in.

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    • Shouldn’t we just write what it sounds like phonetically?

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