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  • OK OK i know the nonsense worthless DBS ended today, but i was wondering, Goku states that he will defeat Freeza if he tries anything bad, he said the same thing to Piccolo jr and Vegeta, so is Freeza gonna be good in the next series?

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    • I doubt Frieza will ever become truly good, it's just not who he is. But I do think that the sincere compassion and gratitute he was shown really changed his worlview.

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    • Except Frieza is incapable of being redeemed and his character doesn't work as a good guy. Also, the fact we see him with a new spaceship and army is not really a good signal. His VA even said and I quote "'While I can’t predict what will happen to Freeza, I’m sure he’ll never reform and will think up more evil schemes"' and honestly, he can't be anymore right.

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    • DBS didn't end today. Its only on hiatus.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Except Frieza is incapable of being redeemed and his character doesn't work as a good guy.

      Then how do you explain Vegeta becoming good then? Vegeta had 0,0000000000000000001 % of becoming good

      @Hulk10

      Stop ruining my dreams please

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    • Sorry not trying to. But I know how you feel about that.

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    • BH Ouji wrote:
      Skar800 wrote:
      Except Frieza is incapable of being redeemed and his character doesn't work as a good guy.
      Then how do you explain Vegeta becoming good then? Vegeta had 0,0000000000000000001 % of becoming good


      Sigh

      You realize Vegeta was actually a different case? He, like Tien Shinhan, Piccolo, etc, indeed started off as a villain but he was never portrayed as basically the embodiment of evil as is Frieza and that's more explored as the storyline progresses. He was the prince of a proud warrior race and before he really had a chance to lead, his birthright was stolen by Frieza and he basically became a slave, who later killed his people and family.

      But by the time he changed his ways and got the means to resurrect them, he already became "too Earthling" and raised a family so he, like Goku, realized it was just best to leave them as memories of the past which is completely understandable when you see King Vegeta saying he will defeat Frieza so he will conquer the Universe for himself. I have to say that's a credible reason to leave them dead unlike Frieza, who didn't want to resurrect his father simply because he was bossy and was willing to let his own Universe perish with the remants of his army just so he could save his own skin.

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    • Vegeta was pretty evil for 30 years.



      Freeza was a tyrant over a huge portion of the universe and an almost absolute evil for roughly 100 years. 



      You'd need a wish with the Super Dragon Balls to turn him good.

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    • I mean it's really stressful to see people not understanding the difference between Vegeta's character and Frieza's character. Frieza is evil in any way you look at him even the concept behind him is terrifying because Akira created him as a combination of his nightmares as a kid. His VA who dubbed the character for nearly 30 years and certainly is one of the people who understands it better than most pretty much said there are no chances for him to become good.

      No matter the ancestors, the time or even the Universe, in the words of Vegeta: "Frieza is still Frieza"

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    • I feel its stressful when people just refuse to understand another person's point of view.

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    • If DBS was nonsense worthless... Then I wonder what was GT, since it's worse than Super...

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    • lol let's not talk about trash, even the way it handled Frieza and Cell was such an insult.

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    • GT and Super being trash is only an opinion.

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    • Well at least I can praise Super for giving Frieza a new arc, a new form and making the craziest team ever of him and the people he hated the most and the fact he still around with his army so the story continues. Also the fact Frieza is seen doing unusual stuff such as training or participating in a tournament.

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    • Also the female Super Saiyans that was good too.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      BH Ouji wrote:
      Skar800 wrote:
      Except Frieza is incapable of being redeemed and his character doesn't work as a good guy.
      Then how do you explain Vegeta becoming good then? Vegeta had 0,0000000000000000001 % of becoming good

      Sigh

      You realize Vegeta was actually a different case? He, like Tien Shinhan, Piccolo, etc, indeed started off as a villain but he was never portrayed as basically the embodiment of evil as is Frieza and that's more explored as the storyline progresses. He was the prince of a proud warrior race and before he really had a chance to lead, his birthright was stolen by Frieza and he basically became a slave, who later killed his people and family.

      Sigh

      Vegeta is a saiyan prince, and saiyans are the demon scums of the universe, and once they go SSJ, they become even more violent, so no wonder it took 200 episodes to make Vegeta "good"

      And i don't think Tenshinhan was evil, he was brainwashed by that old man named crane hermit

      As for Piccolo jr, well he was the son of King Piccolo, but Goku sparing his life changed him, hence why Sansho went to hell and not went to limbo

      Freeza on the other hand is now gentle as a lamb and he knows that he's nothing compred to the super saiyans

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    • Whatever man. I think I gave you enough reasons why Frieza has not a single chance of being good unless you brainwash him. The fact we are discussing the chance of this guy becoming a hero doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Even in the tournament arc, the message basically is "Frieza is still the same, only reason he helps Goku is because he needs him to reach his wish" the VA said the likelihood of him having a change of heart is as big as Damon and while he doesn't write the storyline, you can't tell me he is wrong after looking at Frieza's new army at the end. Agree to disagree.

      One more thing, do you honestly think this makes sense?

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    • BH Ouji wrote:
      Skar800 wrote:
      BH Ouji wrote:
      Skar800 wrote:
      Except Frieza is incapable of being redeemed and his character doesn't work as a good guy.
      Then how do you explain Vegeta becoming good then? Vegeta had 0,0000000000000000001 % of becoming good

      Sigh

      You realize Vegeta was actually a different case? He, like Tien Shinhan, Piccolo, etc, indeed started off as a villain but he was never portrayed as basically the embodiment of evil as is Frieza and that's more explored as the storyline progresses. He was the prince of a proud warrior race and before he really had a chance to lead, his birthright was stolen by Frieza and he basically became a slave, who later killed his people and family.

      Sigh

      Vegeta is a saiyan prince, and saiyans are the demon scums of the universe, and once they go SSJ, they become even more violent, so no wonder it took 200 episodes to make Vegeta "good"

      And i don't think Tenshinhan was evil, he was brainwashed by that old man named crane hermit

      As for Piccolo jr, well he was the son of King Piccolo, but Goku sparing his life changed him, hence why Sansho went to hell and not went to limbo

      Freeza on the other hand is now gentle as a lamb and he knows that he's nothing compred to the super saiyans

      Man, you are pretty clueless in the world of DB.

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    • I don't believe that Saiyans were ever the scumbags of the universe.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:
      I don't believe that Saiyans were ever the scumbags of the universe.

      I concur. It's just in their nature to be brutish. Plus, Frieza just amplified their brutish nature by making them his slaves.

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    • Rogeta234 wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:
      I don't believe that Saiyans were ever the scumbags of the universe.

      I concur. It's just in their nature to be brutish. Plus, Frieza just amplified their brutish nature by making them his slaves.

      yeah we Saiyans aren't necessarily evil. we just need direction and more constructive ways to utilize our love of battle.

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    • Except they literally send little children and babies to conquer planets and the kids are apparently so naturally vicious that this system works. 

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    • BH Ouji wrote:
      the nonsense worthless DBS ended today

      Gross.

      Anyway, no, Frieza turning good is a ridiculously stupid idea.

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    • Frieza has tried to kill people in the tournament of power. He betrayed frost too. So no way he is becoming good. 

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    • Plus Frieza isn't repentant. Its implied that in the manga that only the most unrepentant individuals end up in certain parts of hell.

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    • Hellhoundjosh wrote:
      Frieza has tried to kill people in the tournament of power. He betrayed frost too. So no way he is becoming good. 

      Betraying an asshole bent on the erasure of you and your universe doesn't make you a bad guy.

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    • Well he also states he has no intention to change his ways in the last episode of dragon ball super. It is still evident he's evil. 

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    • Hellhoundjosh wrote: Well he also states he has no intention to change his ways in the last episode of dragon ball super. It is still evident he's evil. 

      Not disagreeing that Frieza's most likely going to stay evil, but to be fair, Piccolo Jr. also indicated that he had no intention of changing his ways after being beaten by Goku in the Piccolo Jr. Saga, and we all know how that turned out (specifically, Piccolo DID in fact change his ways ultimately).

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    • Yeah, but piccolo changed his ways to be a better father to Gohan than Goku could ever be.

      Soo... I guess Frieza will train Bra?

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    • Bra wont ever train, sadly... if anything, she'll  be another Bulma for new generation...

      However training Pan... is another thing... *wink* *wink*

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    • We only have one version of anime/manga Bra that doesn't train. So, post Super might have her not suck.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      We only have one version of anime/manga Bra that doesn't train. So, post Super might have her not suck.

      Instead of hoping for useful Bra, you should pray for useful Pan to begin with. Nothing is set in stone.






      P.S I'm still waiting to see her going Super Saiyan.... They even gave SSJ to Raditz in games, but not her D: 

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    • I'm not particularly interested in women, so either one would be fine.

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    • Hulk10 wrote: GT and Super being trash is only an opinion.

      Yeah Right

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    • Hulk10 wrote: GT and Super being trash is only an opinion.

      How old are you kid?

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    • Sheikhtanveerahmed wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote: GT and Super being trash is only an opinion.

      How old are you kid?

      Young enough to still question why people have to be needlessly mean.

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