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Archive 1 October, 2007 - July, 2009
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January 2012

I have archived the prior talk page. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:37, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Tail Isuues

Does anyone else think Goku should've kept his tail throughout the series?

Dragon Ball Z For Kinect

Is the Ultimate Tenkaichi template going to be replaced by a Dragon Ball Z For Kinect one?

Something Occured To me

It occured to me: If someone starts roleplaying on other Canon Wikis, they usually have a link to a Roleplaying Wikia on that particular subject on the Main Page, listed as an affliate. You've got one to the Fanon Wiki for fan fiction, but not a Wiki for roleplaying. And I've seen Chat Moderators get really annoyed when people start roleplaying in chat. So I was wondering, perhaps you could put the Goat City Wiki on the front page, and send people there if they start annoying everyone else with roleplay. I'm not trying to advertise; I'm wondering if perhaps you could add Goat City to the main page as an affliate. 6dfe15e28d05a9b981284ad333feb66c-1-.gif Wow-Wow-Wow-wow Wiggle.gif 18:16, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Fanon Wiki has a chat, and I'm sure they wouldn't mind role playing there. Using Goat City Wiki isn't necessary. — N (tc) 18:46, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re-release the entire original dragon ball series in dragon box format.

It's time for a change in the dragon ball seires we already know about the dbz kai music plagarism scandal and ote bull, Funimation need to recall all of the dragon ball seires dvds and re-release them all on dvd and blu-ray in its original dragon box quality format to give the fans a whole new atomosphere like myself the original opening and closing of dragon ball dbz and dbgt as well as the next episode previews completes the entire original dragon ball series.—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Cluttered main page

Hello, the main page is cluttered with the stuff on the side, can the administrators help me find the problem? Please, thank you. IloveJeice 01:42, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Can you please be more specific? I don't see anything wrong with it. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:11, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Super Saiyan Confusions...

Alright so here's the thing: I can't recall where I heard this, but I believe I heard that the only reason Pan couldn't transform into a Super Saiyan because she was only a quarter Saiyan... Yet, Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. go Super Saiyan even at young ages. How does this happen? Vegeta and Goku Jr. would only be one sixteenth Saiyan provided the Saiyans mated with humans. Can someone help me understand this?

GokuWearsConverse (talk) 05:15, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

The reason is that Toriyama didn't know how to design a female Super Saiyan. Goku SS3Shakuran13Tapion with bladeThisDragonFistGokuHirudegarnMovie13endsKonatsian wizard with effectsNOW!SS3Rush 07:56, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Another picture


From the white marks it looks like it was a folded poster in a magazine of some sort


The chances of this picture being official have risen, it looks nearly identical to the original Japanese cover of the Trunks special

I found these pictures on the web, can anyone on the wiki confirm they are real? - Raditz for SaiyaneliteSaiyanEliteTalkContrb 11:09, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sexy new main page

Glad to see the main page is finally more interactive like other wikis. Deus Gladiorum (talk) 18:58, August 24, 2012 (UTC)


Can we update the power poll? GokuAboutToSacrificeThis Random DudeGoten-y-trunks2cropped is bored so talk to himVegetasSacrifice

Sure, I'll do that today. By the way, using the date like in a regular signature posting is very helpful for the readers. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:15, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, but how do I add it in? GokuAboutToSacrificeThis Random DudeGoten-y-trunks2cropped is bored so talk to himVegetasSacrifice

To vote, simply click on the circle to the left of the option you like most. Then click the button at the button that says "Vote!" -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 21:28, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Not voting, adding the date onto a sig. GokuAboutToSacrificeThis Random DudeGoten-y-trunks2cropped is bored so talk to himVegetasSacrifice

Oh sorry, okay. You just use four tildes ~~~~ to use the signature you have set up in your preferences plus the time/date of the post. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:56, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

About the name of 孫悟空

You know 孫悟空, Son Gokū . What does it really means? 孫 is like last name. 悟 is like middle name, 空 is like first name. 孫悟空 is a chinese name. It's really english name that is Monkey king. and more. 悟 means that understand your mind and know yourself. 空 means that nothing, but it include anything and everything. So the name of "Son Gokū" that is WRONG name, WRONG translation.


What happened to the main page? Was it the new wikia updates? I really hate those. GokuAboutToSacrificeThis Random DudeGoten-y-trunks2cropped is bored so talk to himVegetasSacrifice 15:18, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

There was indeed a global wikia update. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:19, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Quote of the day

How exactly is the quote of the day picked and who is it picked by?

I just had an idea for a goku quote from episode 137 of Dragonball "Sometimes my brain doesn't know what my mouth is saying. Good thing my heart does. Will you marry me?" 03:36, October 19, 2012 (UTC)WortWortWort117

PrinceZarbon picks and posts the quote of the day, you can give him suggestions on his talk page. -- 00:44, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Girl Super Saiyan

Did you know that if that women can become Super Saiyans but they got to work harder than the other men Saiyans.—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Quote of the day - Spelling.

Somebody spelt zeni, as zenny, on Quote of the Day. Can somebody correct? GokuAboutToSacrificeThis Random DudeGoten-y-trunks2cropped is bored so talk to himVegetasSacrifice 13:21, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, yes, there's numerous alternate spellings for that. I'll alter it for the featured archives per this request. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 01:15, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

How to create a custom signature?

Hello. i've noticed a lot of people (folks like PrinceZarbon and 10xKamehameha) have cool custom signatures with designs and everything on here. i would like to know how i can make one for myself. problem is that i don't know how and didn't understand the directions all that well. any help would be appreciated thanks! SSJ Sean x20 (talk) 17:40, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Have you tried the tutorial linked at the top of my talk page? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 02:29, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


Why does Recoome and other aliens throughout the series look like caucasion earthlings?---- Heche(SSJ)

Aliens in the series look like all sorts of things. Evolutionarily speaking, humans are a shape that can survive, so it makes sense that some other aliens would evolve the same features. One could also speculate that they share an ancestor with humans and were somehow brought to another planet. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:41, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Adding other language wiki link?

There is a lithuanian dragon ball wiki , but I don't know how to add uts link to the main page, can anyone explain? User: Pupicucek

I suggest that you ask Nonoitall. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 18:11, May 12, 2013 (UTC)


What's that "retrieved from ..." at the very end of the page?" Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render

Screenshot? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:37, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

SuperSaiyan3 goku

if goku have the godlike feeling after he first turn ssj god. so after that when he turns in his normal state and then go super saiyan he put up a good fight. so if he go super saiyan 3 he will be able to defeat bills with ease right? —This unsigned comment was made by SuperSaiyan3 goku (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

You should probably make a forum or blog. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:46, June 13, 2013 (UTC)


I have a couple of proposed changes to the arrangement of the Main Page. I think the "orbs" should be further down, closer to the "Navigation" section, expecially considering how similar they are. This allows for actual Wiki News to be higher. I also think the Power Poll should be higher, above the forum, since the top of the page also has a forum link under the "Community" tab. That's basically it. Goku SS3Shakuran13Tapion with bladeThisDragonFistGokuHirudegarnMovie13endsKonatsian wizard with effectsNOW!SS3Rush 06:31, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. Whatever looks good and provides info. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:45, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Needing some Assistance

I am currently in the process of determining which supporting characters will receive "orbs" and a spot on the main page. There is a possibility of 16 total characters, 8 in each row. I'd like to get the general consensus of the community to see what you all think. Thanks!
 talk contr 
05:11, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
There are currently 32 total characters. Are you trying to remove 16 to make it look neater? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 15:50, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

movie villans icon

i saw the discussion on the Bills talk page and i think we should change the movie villans icon to Broly because he have 3 movies and he is the most popular movie villan GBV6 I am GBV5 GokuBrolyVegeta. GBV7

20:02, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
Agrees, because everyone already agreed Bills' not a villenan Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 20:06, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
Broly would be a good one. Some other suggestions were Cooler (main villain in 2 films) and Garlic Jr. (movie + tv villain). -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:29, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
I vote for Broly because his power is maximum Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 23:35, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

I support Broly because he has the most movies. Garlic Junior having a saga about him is nice and all, but it's irrelevant to the movies. In fact, that actually seems like more of a detracting point because it makes him also an anime villain. Also, Broly is incredibly popular, possibly more than Cooler. One can't really argue about which movie villain is the most villainous, but Broly is no slouch in that regard either. Goku SS3Shakuran13Tapion with bladeThisDragonFistGokuHirudegarnMovie13endsKonatsian wizard with effectsNOW!SS3Rush 23:48, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Broly having the most movies is a good point. Only 2 for Cooler and 1 for Garlic, but Broly has 3. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:26, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, Garlic Junior has 2 votes right now; myself and User:DalekSupreme13 both feel he's the primary as this discussion was already had here: Portals discussion. I disagree with popularity having any level of importance when it comes to deciphering which characters are featured as the source. We need to concentrate on the actual importance minus personal bias. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 02:58, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Come to think of it, voting implies some level of personal bias as well. We should strive for a consensus with our full effort because resorting to that. I think that on the main page, popularity does play a role in our decision, since we want to get people to click, and they are probably more likely to click on something that they are more familiar with. So we have Broly who has the most films and is the most popular, Cooler who has performed the most genocides, and Garlic who gets the most screen time and dialogue but is not exclusively a "film" villain. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:44, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Well, since we have those three and can't decide on just one, I have an even better idea. See how the icons for the Ginyu Tokusentai, Shadow Dragons, and Red Ribbon Army are? All we have to do is make a single icon and have Broly, Cooler, and Garlic Junior all appear on that icon the same way and still call the icon "Film Villains". That would seem to work. Unless of course someone else feels that Lord Slug, Android 13, Bojack, Janemba, Hirudegarn, etc. should be on the icon. I feel the icon can incorporate Broly, Cooler, and Garlic Junior and that would be fine for all the primary audience in terms of satisfying popularity but staying true to actual importance as well. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:11, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
  i agree with prince Zarbon we Should put all 3 of them (Broly,Cooler and Garlic Jr.)GBV6 I am GBV5 GokuBrolyVegeta. GBV7

17:16, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


rough draft of three in one icon for film villains

Here's a rough draft of how nice it would look in a trio image; of course, we'd need User:SSJGoku93 to do it as he made all the other ones currently up. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:20, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
  it's good but i think we should change Garlic Junior's image to his final form and cooler's to his 5th form and i thought that SSJGoku93 has left the wikiGBV6 I am GBV5 GokuBrolyVegeta. GBV7

17:25, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Should be Cooler, not Meta Cooler (there's a difference). But seems nice enough Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 17:28, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah all three of them such as Broly and Cooler and Garlic Jr should be there. They have the longest films and Garlic Jr has a saga. I say we go for three.Teengohanrocks (talk) 19:19, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

I realize this is just a rough draft, but I would like to suggest deleting the background for each of them, so that they look a little more uniform together. --MMUPMr. Steal-Yo-Gurl (Talk) 19:34, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

As long as we can clearly see everyone's faces. Those orbs are kind of hard to see faces in as is. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:45, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
Well, it appears everyone likes the idea of having a trio icon; I have been unable to contact User:SSJGoku93 of recent; 10X, can you maybe email him too to make sure he gets the message. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 03:44, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Talk page should be fine. I don't want to harass the military guy lol. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 04:20, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

If you guys could provide me with an image you'd like me to use, I'll make it tonight. Thanks!
 talk contr 
22:56, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

The images provided did not exactly work with the orb format as well as I'd have liked. As such, I went with the image below. While it may be Cooler's final form, it fit well and looks nice. What do we think? Rsz coolerfinalform2008

 talk contr 
04:58, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
They're all good choices in my opinion lol. PZ? -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:01, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

I mean once the image was re-sized, it looked goofy. The image of Cooler you posted on my talk page looked skewed once re- sized, and the "tri" image didn't work at all haha :P

 talk contr 
05:13, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Rough attempt for trio image

I posted another one on your talk page; check this one out and see if you can resize it to your liking; I think it just needs some trimming on the edges to make it better for your round shape. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:17, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
It's been a while now and still no response from SSJGoku93 in regards to using the image I've put here. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:50, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Portals for "other" characters.

I would like to add two more rows for "supporting" characters of the series to the orbs. Examples include Bulma, Videl, Chi Chi, Mr. Satan etc. etc. If you guys would be so kind as to come up with a list for me and even provide some images I'll be one happy fella. Thanks!

 talk contr 
05:15, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
I think there are enough as is. We want the main page to be eye-catching snapshots, but not a list of all the characters. If we had a way to check, some orbs (Pilaf Gang, Yajirobe, Pan) already feature characters that are only of very minor interest. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:29, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
I think it looks great as is; if there's too much then it might be too long to scroll through. I think we got most of the primary heroes and villains up there. If you were to include Bulma, Mr. Satan, etc. you can add another third section entitled "Other", this would make it easier for them, but I honestly feel that once we get this trio image done of the movie folk, it's pretty much perfect. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 17:20, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Instead of the Dodoria/Zarbon portal having two separate links, shouldn't it just say Frieza's Elite? also the Majin Buu link needs to be changed to Kid Buu, as that is what the image displays.--Neffyarious (talk) 14:30, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

No, because Frieza's elite entails numerous others who aren't as consequential. It is imperative to maintain that they are separate characters and separately list Zarbon and Dodoria as such. And the Majin Buu area makes sense as it is supposed to be relevant to all "forms" of Majin Buu, albeit portraying Kid Buu's image. - Zarbon by raykugen-d2ygchz PrinceZarbon talk contribZarbon ava3 22:49, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

The DB Wiki FaceBook Page

Please click the link below if you're interested in a job adminstrating the wiki's FaceBook page. —This unsigned comment was made by SSJGoku93 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Number inconsistencies

Sometimes, numbers are written out in words, like forty-five, or one thousand and twenty-five, but others might be written in the style of say, "The 3rd one came along" or "His power increased 1000 times over".  I'm not sure if there is a rule, but since the wiki wants to have consistency (having the same name of a character on all their related pages, despite translation differences), I figure we should stick to one thing. MrBuuAngry(BoG) DinkyPotato TaoTheAssassin 14:53, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

i like the 38434643684 style GBV6 I am GBV5 GokuBrolyVegeta. GBV7 15:28, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

The Manual of Style dictates that we use American English grammar. That means that yes there are rules, and yes we should correct pages to be consistent with them. For numbers less than 10, or if the sentence starts with a number, the whole word should be written out. For numbers 10 or greater, the number should be used. When there are combined instances of numbers greater than 10 and less than 10, the rule used for the first instance should be used for all instances in that sentence. Second is treated as a word, and 2nd is treated as a number.

Grammatically correct sentences:

  • There were two Saiyans fighting. Number less than 10 rule.
  • There were 10 aliens attacking the planet. Number 10 or greater rule.
  • Twenty villains approached the man. Sentence starting with a number rule.
  • The three friends went fishing on a fourteen day trip. Number less than 10 rule, first instance rule.
  • Goku knew that he had 30 minutes to win, and initiated his 3rd assault on Frieza. Number greater than 10 rule, first instance rule, treat 3rd as a number.

Exceptions can be used if they are absolutely needed. If the number is huge and unwieldy like 234,234,654,678 then it should be written as a number no matter what. For amounts of money, the number should almost always be used, so $40 is better than forty dollars. If you come across a case where an exception is needed that conflicts with one of the grammatical rules, then be smart, and try and reword the sentence or break it up into two sentences that do not require exceptions.

Sentence requires an exception (number is very large and should never be written out in words):

  • The seven Dragon Balls became inert for the next 236,221,563 years.

Smart rewrite that does not require an exception.

  • The seven Dragon Balls became inert. They remained this ways for 236,221,563 years.

Please let me know if there are any grammar questions related to this topic. Thank you. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:38, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Quotes in Articles

Most of the quotes in articles are directly linked to the FUNI dub of the anime. However, the articles involve the manga and the anime. On Videl's page, it takes an exact quote from the FUNi dub about her developing romantic feelings for Gohan, and the quote is much more blunt in the manga english translation ("I'm going to ask you out"). So, I was wondering, should quotations be taken out of articles directly, and make them slightly more open and vague to make it easier for all kinds of viewers of Dragon Ball?  I'm not honestly too bothered, but some articles contain a few quotations from characters, and others don't.  MrBuuAngry(BoG) DinkyPotato TaoTheAssassin 23:20, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

I do not think anyone is going to be confused by where the quote came from as long as we continue to put the source of the quote with its use. Whenever an episode is quoted, the name of the episode is at the bottom of the quote box. Viz manga quotes are perfectly acceptable too! The anime just seems to be a lot more popular for English fans, so that is what gets edited onto articles most often. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:53, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Quick Question

Umm hi how do you create articles? Deadpool the merc (talk) 04:39, March 13, 2014 (UTC)Deadpool the merc

Just type in the path to the article that you want to create, and make an edit. The page will exist from then on and will be visible to others. If you give me the name of the article you would like to create, I can do it for you the first time to help you get started. Remember that articles should only be about official, licensed information of an encyclopedic nature. Vegeta = yes. Vegeta vs. Goku who would win = no. SS7 Ultra Vegeta = no. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 18:54, March 13, 2014 (UTC)


Has gohan ever been stronger then vegeta? —This unsigned comment was made by Ssj4goku45 (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Yes, several times during Dragon Ball Z. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 19:08, August 10, 2014 (UTC)


Did nail and kami die with piccolo on Dbgt? —This unsigned comment was made by Zackgood (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Hi Zack, welcome to the site. When posting a new item of discussion on a talk page, please make sure to start a new topic. Also, always sign your posts, that way I know who to respond to. Yes, both Kami and Nail died with Piccolo in GT. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:45, October 22, 2014 (UTC)


I thought Ultimate Shenron died because with Piccolo death the black star ball cease.

And how about Smoke Shenron does he die when all the darkness surrounding earth go away and when all the Shadow Dragons are killed? Zackgood (talk) 01:56, October 24, 2014 (UTC) zackgood

Right, Ultimate Shenron goes away with Piccolo and Kami's deaths. Smoke Shenron goes away, but it's unclear if he is "dead". Presumably, with more good wishes he might return. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:42, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Bulma as a main page portal

Something that I have found strange about the portals on the main page is that Bulma is missing yet characters who appeared and did less like Yajirobe, Uub, Chiaotzu and honestly Android 18 are.

Bulma was literally the second main and important main character from the start, she was the one who started everything (and unwittingly help stop every villain ever by doing so). She built the Dragon Radar, She was crucial in defeating General Blue and the Invisible man and kept safe the dead fighter bodies in the King Piccolo saga. She gathered the Dragon Balls to resurrect Goku, she built the ships in both Freeza saga and GT. She had entire filler arcs devoted to her, she built the remote device and rebuilt Android 16. She gave birth to both Trunks and Bra & is the wife of Vegeta. She has appeared in more media then most of the main page characters and as the top 100 poll showed, is considered more relevant and popular then all the characters I mentioned in the first paragraph except Android 18.

think she deserves it.Gretnablue (talk) 19:53, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

She's a main character, but not really a "hero" as that listing states. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 22:27, October 31, 2014 (UTC)


Does Good Buu "die" when he fuses with Uub in GT to form Majuub? If he's dead then does that mean that Good Buu should be added in Deceased Characters? Zackgood (talk) 04:37, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

He doesn't die: they merge, sort of like when Kami and Piccolo merge. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:49, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Is Ninja Murasaki died?because in the filler episode with Dr. Flappe goku throws android 8's bomb away witch lands on his face. That close range explosion would have killed him! Zackgood (talk) 18:43, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

It's unclear. One user claims "According to a special Jump, he resides in the world of the dead, so he is confirmed deceased.", but they did not provide a real source. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 01:15, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Would you say Dr. Brief and Mrs. Brief would be dead since they are not seen in Dragonball Gt? Zackgood (talk) 18:07, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

No, that's speculation. Please don't speculate in articles. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:51, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Canon and non-canon

Since Disney revealed the new Star Wars canon, the Star Wars wiki opted for having two versions of most articles, a "Canon" one where only things from the movies and the recent TV shows are mentioned and "Legends" where all the other material is also mentioned.

I thought we could use a similar system for this site by diving things that were directly written by Toriyama (The manga, 2008 OVA, BoG, Revival of F, Jaco, etc.) and things that although may have involucrated him, weren't (GT, most movies, anime filler, etc.) I apologize if this isn't the right place for this, I'll move it if it's so. MatiuxFox (talk) 02:26, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

I find that the problem with this is that to me it is hard to so easily define what is and isn't canon.

You say that the manga and 2008 OVA are canon, but what about the Episode of Bardock, is that canon? It's written by Naho Ooishi who also did a manga based off the 2008 OVA. Also, the 2008 OVA wasn't written by Toriyama as far as I know but I could be wrong. Is the One Piece x Dragon Ball crossover canon because it was written by Toriyama? Isn't GT the series that was written specifically to be a continuation of the Dragon Ball story? Shouldn't that make it more canon? If Battle of Gods is a movie, wouldn't that make it non-canon?  It's not like anyone official has come out and said anything about canonicity and Akira Toriyama certainly doesn't care; he barely even remembers the details of Dragon Ball.

I find it is much better to just present information and let people interpret the matter rather than come out with an official statement on it that is only created by us. Tapion13 Shakuran13' Talk' 03:57, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

  • >written by Toriyama
  • >2008 OVA, BoG, Revival of F

He didn't write those, man. Also, I agree with Shak, the way it already is is best so people can think however they want. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 15:08, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

    I appreciate your responses and understand why you decided not to follow this. I just wanted to point           out that Toriyama DID write those things I mentioned and even this site states that. Please avoid                   spreading misinformation. MatiuxFox (talk) 04:51, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

We try our best to state where info is coming from, if it does not originate from an obvious source (like anime episode pages listing anime info by default). On character articles, we try our best to differentiate; for example, if a character says something in the Funimation dub only, we write (Funimation dub only) after the comment. Please not that the position Star Wars is in is substantially different from ours. They face a complete rewrite of all content in their previously accepted "Expanded Universe", essentially now an alternate reality. While there are a few alternate realities in the Dragon Ball franchise, like Trunks' alternate timeline and "what-if?" video game scenarios, most of the original content including GT and the movies meshes fairly well with the original manga. For Trunks' reality, we do have separate articles, such as Future Goku. Of course it's not a perfect fit, but Stat Wars is going to have a rewrite of everything from major character deaths to swapped marriages and major species never having existed. The equivalent would be the release of a new Dragon Ball series, where Goku starts as a kid again, he's a robot, Krillin doesn't exist, and Bulma is Goku's daughter; then that series ran for 10 years and became more popular than the original series, which faded into obscurity. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 05:00, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

Revival of F?

Why ain't frieza on the deceased list frieza yes he is revived in Revival of F but is shown dead in Hell In gt fighting in super 17 arc with cell both dying again in age 790. The movie is going to take place after the Battle of the Gods which is before gt ovisouly and even though revived in the movie we see frieza dead still in gt. So frieza Is still DEAD! Zackgood (talk) 03:01, February 16, 2015 (UTC) Zackgood

Here is why Frieza was taken of the deceased list because the movie Revival of F is made after the anime series as a whole has ended (which means that this movie may make GT have more plot holes then anything else) even though he is dead in GT is he brought back to life and until he dies in the movie he will not be put back on there.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  07:53,2/16/2015 
If you are referring to the list of characters who remain deceased, it's probably because he doesn't remain deceased. Maybe he will after the movie, who knows. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 00:02, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Too many non-relevant details. Please do some trimming.

I think the wiki here could stand to trim dub-specific details that aren't relevant. The dubs all have a degree of adaptation to them, some heavier than others.

Example from

  • In the 172nd episode of Dragon Ball Z, King Furry recites a Franklin D. Roosevelt quote: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How is this cultural reference in the dub script relevant? I wouldn't even consider it trivia.

I'm not saying you need to change all mentions of "Hercule" back to "Mr. Satan" (that would be a different conversation), just more like some editors are a too eager to add whatever details they can discover.

For example: has the same Percel story from Xenoverse in FOUR DIFFFERENT PLACES. Things are a mess here.

On a side note too: Pictures from the ancient low-res manga scans that was flipped to read left-to-right should be flipped back to normal. Those images look really bad but seeing the FX backwards makes it even worse.

Blind51de (talk) 23:36, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Read this then you will understand far as I am concerned no trimming needs to be done. The whole thing dealing with King Piccolo isn't a problem for at least three of the places because of the section they are in someone else who has been here longer and check and see if they think I am right or not.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  01:24,4/20/2015 
Way to ignore my other points. I don't care about your guys' dub name stockholm syndrome, but I am embarrassed for the amount of irrelevant details clogging up many many articles on here. Stuff like that should go on* if anywhere. That page by the way could use some separation of dub details from those that were in the original Japanese script.Blind51de (talk) 13:39, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
No it doesn't I swear how about this how about you edit other problems that are actually a problem like misspellings or broken links since you are wanting to fix this wiki so much because as of right now all you have done is try to say we need to change how we do stuff here which means you haven't been here long enough to see that your reasons for that go against what we have set up to go by. Plus if a character does the real life referencing it possibly needs to be mentioned on their page some where. You just don't understand how stuff is ran here.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  16:45,4/20/2015 

Stockholm syndrome, "the psychological tendency of a hostage to bond with, identify with, or sympathize with his or her captor". Just wanted to throw that out there, no hostages editing the site that I know of. In any case, dub details are relevant because they are licensed Dragon Ball media and this is the Dragon Ball Wiki. It's not the Dragon Ball manga wiki, you can just read the manga if you want that. This wiki's goal is providing info on all media, and it is fundamentally against biased points of view like yours. Please don't take that as an insult, you are absolutely entitled to enjoy and/or ignore whatever you want. However, we cannot omit details of language dubs because they don't meet your personal standards/preferences. Read the parts you want to, ignore the parts you want to, and please understand that there are readers (the majority of readers actually) who have experienced Dragon Ball through an anime rather than a manga. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 23:38, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Super

Should we add Dragon Ball Super's page right now, or wait until more information is added? Richtofen2115 (talk) 02:19, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

We already have the page Dragon Ball Super, but I think we'll wait until we have the logo and more info to add it; though we really should add that to the News section. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 02:24, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

why didn't any of the king piccolo sons appear in hell? also why didn't lucifer appear in hell? they are canon (Spice boys (talk) 00:37, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Not every character appears in every scene. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 03:15, May 8, 2015 (UTC)

yes i guess your right thanks i still think they went to hell (Spice boys (talk) 00:40, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

You're probably right, they seemed pretty evil. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 06:21, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
yes not to mention king piccolo is on the hell list so im sure they there besides if they are in heaven why didn't any of the z fighters meet or mention them? (Spice boys (talk) 00:44, May 11, 2015 (UTC)  

Please add interwiki link

Please admin add interwiki link to lithuanian DB wiki. Just add: [[lt:Pagrindinis Wiki puslapis]] to the end of the page. Thanks —This unsigned comment was made by Pupicucek (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Done. -- SSJ4 Goku(2) 20:14, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

character icons

I wanted to propose removing the character "icons" (for lack of the actual word) from the main page (the little circles with character images on them). They seem to just clutter the Main Page in my opinion. 


Tapion13 Shakuran13' Talk' 08:57, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

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