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Bill the weakest God of Destruction

Read from a shonen jump manga that out of the 12 gods of destruction. Bill was the weakest. Anyone can confirm this ?—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

It's only said that Whis is stronger than him, nothing more. ShulabyninjaJeangabinTalkContribDaburawrh 14:46, April 25, 2013 (UTC)


when king kai said that godly ki could not be sensed by mortals, he was obviously implying that bills, being a god is immortal right? But when Whis offered him the job for god of destruction he said when bill dies. Im confused Riptide240 (talk) 13:31, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

When king kai said mortals he meant those that live in the living realm. The kais/supreme kais living in the other world are considered immortal even though they eventually die. This implies that gods of destruction have finite lifespans like the supreme kais. Goku and the others couldnt sense bills ki only the kais could until goku became super saiyan god. then he could sense bills cause his was also "god" ki. SaiyanGodLegend (talk) 07:11, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

would beerus go to hell when he dies? because hes kinda of evil  (Spice boys (talk) 17:28, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

They probably have a special place they go since they are of "higher status" in life, similar to the Kai's. Maybe they don't have to go to Other World once they die, like Elder Kai didn't. Ripto (talk) 17:30, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

oh yes thats true thanks LoL i was meant to say kinda of evil not kinda of hell (Spice boys (talk) 17:34, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I knew what you meant :) it would be fair to say God of Destruction's like Beerus have special privileges when they die, since they fill an important role in the universe. Ripto (talk) 17:37, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

i know but still hes kinda of evil (Spice boys (talk) 17:41, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

That's true but I don't know if he should be labeled evil. That's just his job as a Destruction of God to... well destroy. It's actually probably more good then bad since it keeps the universe in order. The vibe I get from Beerus is more of a neutral being than favoring good or bad. Ripto (talk) 17:45, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

ok thats a good point (Spice boys (talk) 17:49, June 19, 2015 (UTC)


Can anyone confirm that Champa is The God Of Destruction from the 6th Universe? (Goldenpencil8 (talk) 02:49, July 9, 2015 (UTC))

we don't know yet Meshack (talk) 02:45, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

my opinion is , maybe champa can be god of destruction 6th universe if he can defeat beerus first --Tjizzer 11:15, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

Renaming the page

Since the wiki is an American Wiki, why not use the American definition of Hakaishin to "Destruction God". There is no "Hakai no Shin" or "Shin no Hakai". So perhaps change it to a correct translation. --New World God 23:42, August 20, 2016 (UTC)

Why don't you go read the Rules, Guidlines, and MoS.  Goku20  Talk  ULTRA DBZ  ULTRA POKEMON  10:54,8/21/2016 

Why don't you learn how to spell guidlines (<--did it on purpose). So anyways back to the conversation " Since the wiki is an American Wiki, why not use the American definition of Hakaishin to "Destruction God". There is no reason to call "God of Destruction" because it doesn't spell out "Hakai no Shin" or "Shin no Hakai". So perhaps change it to a correct translation." --New World God 11:19, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

Or just have all the terms in their original form like Hakaishin, Kaioshin, Kaio, etc. It's kinda stupid to divide the communities and use the lame FUNimation translations Meshack (talk) 19:42, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

They should be documented but supplementary. But you do know its "Kaiо̄(Oh) <--- its the correct way to spell it because of hepburn romanization. In short it doesn't make sense to call it Kaio. King = о̄(meaning, Oh), not o. So granting you don't use the romanization, you have two names that being Kai-oh or Kaioh. What should be used to avoid confusing the fanbase Kaiо̄. Yes, I study japanese. --{{SUBST:User:New World God/sig}} 00:16, September 29, 2016 (UTC)

I never watched the dub for BoG and RF. What's the term used in the dub? If it's "Destruction God", then we should rename, but if it's "God of Destruction", there's no need to. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 00:41, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
God of the Destruction. It is used in the first and second movies with Super content, and Beerus is also called a Destruction God in ROF. The reason for that is because they're localizing the name to as closely, but still inaccurate as they could've. I just literally explained this in detail. There is no "Hakai no Shin" or "Shin no Hakai", which if it was that would be "God of Destruction". I know this because I know the language and also studied it. I'm not a weeb who knows japanese by reading subtitles. The term Hakaishin is not a real term its customary title that exists in the continuity of the series like Kaiо̄, and Kaiо̄shin. The best way to name would be to call it Destruction God, because that's the actual translation. He was called a "Destruction God" in ROF, which is correct. I'm not advocating the wiki should change it into "Hakaishin" because its not your manual of style, fine. Then perhaps accurate english translations would be better. New World God
Well, you know the Dragon Ball Wiki, we go with what the dub says even if it's wrong. Yakon RenderSandubadearPui Pui Render 02:09, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

Quick Question

How can someone be a god of destruction? Are they born with that rank, or do they pass many trials?Skyriver342 (talk) 18:19, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

All Names

Name [1]and [2]--Sharingan91 (talk) 15:57, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Future Belmod and Toppo

In the list of known Gods of Destruction it is stated that Future Belmod is deceased, probably because Zamasu killed Khai in Age 795. However, in the main timeline Belmod is about to retire in Age 780, so it is likely that Belmod had already retired when Khai was killed, and it was Toppo the one who died (however both of them were erased shortly after). I think that the list should be updated to include this possibility, maybe explained in a footnote or somewhere else, e.g.

  • Future Belmod (former God of Destruction; deceased (possibly) and erased) <footnote>
  • Future Toppo (former God of Destruction (possibly); deceased (possibly) and erased) <footnote>

What do you think? Pepesale (talk) 16:31, February 25, 2018 (UTC)