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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Dragonball Evolution article.
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Title
The title is actually 'Dragonball'. --Kuriza 09:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up! I've renamed the article accordingly. -- nonoitall 22:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Differences between anime/manga and movie
Are we at least going to get a differences section so we can point out the terribly pathetic monstrosity that this movie is?
- I can see that happening, not necessarily to point out the "terribly pathetic monstrosity" of the film, but to point out the differences between the film and Toriyama's original series. As little faith as I have in the film myself, a neutral point of view must still be respected. Storm
talk – projects 02:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I've whipped up a list of most of the similarities and differences between Toriyama's work and Dragonball: Evolution (see Dragonball: Evolution#Comparison to Akira Toriyama's manga). By the way, to address the first comment, the movie wasn't that bad. If you watch it expecting to see everything you like about the anime, you're going to be disappointed because this is a live-action film about a series which there is almost nothing realistic about. But if you go in with an open head expecting to see a live-action martial arts adaptation of Dragon Ball, then your reception might stand a chance. The problem had less to do with what a "terribly pathetic monstrosity" the film is to the original series, and rather was more related to a production POV. It moves so fast that you don't get a lot of time to adapt to the characters and by the end of the film everybody is little more than one-dimensional; Roshi and Piccolo were probably the most memorable characters though. Anyways, that's my take on the film. Storm talk – projects 00:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. Just saw the movie, boy was it bad. One thing I noticed is that Roshi spends a lot of time in the film explaining to Goku how to use his Ki, & what it means to be 'at one with yourself' and he discusses these with Chi Chi as well. In the series Goku just does stuff by 'trying his hardest,' I never heard the word Ki once in the series.98.144.5.92 18:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, the use of ki isn't a very good reason to rag on the film. Toriyama originally created the Dragon Ball manga as something of a parody of a classic Chinese story called called Journey to the West, but as he continued writing it, it became less a parody and more his own testament to Chinese culture. In Chinese martial arts (among others), qi, or "energy flow", is a very important thing to master; even though the word was never really pronounced in the original series to my best knowledge, ki was definitely a concept Toriyama was using while writing Dragon Ball (the word is also used in the countless video game spin-offs). I don't know, I just think that if you're gonna hate something that's already being scolded in the public eye, you need to be sure to understand a few things about before judging; but you're free to your own opinion. As I said earlier, the only real problems I had were from a production standpoint; the relationship that buds onscreen between Goku and Chi Chi is pretty sappy too, but those scenes aren't numerous. Storm
talk – projects 19:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, the use of ki isn't a very good reason to rag on the film. Toriyama originally created the Dragon Ball manga as something of a parody of a classic Chinese story called called Journey to the West, but as he continued writing it, it became less a parody and more his own testament to Chinese culture. In Chinese martial arts (among others), qi, or "energy flow", is a very important thing to master; even though the word was never really pronounced in the original series to my best knowledge, ki was definitely a concept Toriyama was using while writing Dragon Ball (the word is also used in the countless video game spin-offs). I don't know, I just think that if you're gonna hate something that's already being scolded in the public eye, you need to be sure to understand a few things about before judging; but you're free to your own opinion. As I said earlier, the only real problems I had were from a production standpoint; the relationship that buds onscreen between Goku and Chi Chi is pretty sappy too, but those scenes aren't numerous. Storm
- I agree. Just saw the movie, boy was it bad. One thing I noticed is that Roshi spends a lot of time in the film explaining to Goku how to use his Ki, & what it means to be 'at one with yourself' and he discusses these with Chi Chi as well. In the series Goku just does stuff by 'trying his hardest,' I never heard the word Ki once in the series.98.144.5.92 18:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I've whipped up a list of most of the similarities and differences between Toriyama's work and Dragonball: Evolution (see Dragonball: Evolution#Comparison to Akira Toriyama's manga). By the way, to address the first comment, the movie wasn't that bad. If you watch it expecting to see everything you like about the anime, you're going to be disappointed because this is a live-action film about a series which there is almost nothing realistic about. But if you go in with an open head expecting to see a live-action martial arts adaptation of Dragon Ball, then your reception might stand a chance. The problem had less to do with what a "terribly pathetic monstrosity" the film is to the original series, and rather was more related to a production POV. It moves so fast that you don't get a lot of time to adapt to the characters and by the end of the film everybody is little more than one-dimensional; Roshi and Piccolo were probably the most memorable characters though. Anyways, that's my take on the film. Storm