This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Dragon Ball: Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!! article.
Neither of the plot holes mentioned seem like real plot holes to me. Maybe I don't remember enough about the original DBZ, but why wouldn't the reporters know about Majin Buu?
As for Goku and Vegeta's rivalry, it does seem friendly, and does not seem like a "who is stronger" contest. I don't see any inconsistency. In fact it just seems they're both eager to fight someone, not that they want to compete to see who's stronger.
I didn't want to change it in case some people out there have a different opinion of these two things.184.108.40.206 17:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with you about Goku and Vegeta's rivalry - it's much more comedic and light-hearted in this film than it was in most of DBZ. After Majin Buu's defeat though, the Z fighters used the Dragon Balls to wish away everyone's memory of Majin Buu so that Majin Buu could be seen in public without everyone becoming terrified. -- 05:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
There is the obvious plot hole about the existence of Tarble. Vegeta said in 'Mysterious Youth' that he, Kakarot, and Gohan were the only saiyan left. Surely he'd remember if he had an estranged brother somewhere. 220.127.116.11 15:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Yet his obvious show of resentment for his brother's weakness provides an excellent reason never to mention him. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 04:01, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
I agree. Furthermore, considering his weakness, he could very well think that Tarble was already dead and thus, not worth mentioning. Holothurion 21:11, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
which episod is this???????????????ssj10goku
- It's not an episode; it's a movie. -- 05:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I watched this movie on the 23rd(it was supposed to be on the 24th...little did people suspect they mean in JAPAN), and thought it was the best of the movies(Bardock was a special, if you will remember. ;D)
Out of 10 stars, I'd have to give it 11 and a half. It was hilarious, but still gave us all enough action to hold us over through the course of the film. The beautiful animation is another great point. It was just...so...beautiful...*drool* I have and will watch it at LEAST once a day for as long as humanly possible(1/31/2009). Though...there are some things that leave you wondering. Table's past...what will happen to Abo and Cado now...so I seriously hope DBZ gets started back up(unlikely, but not impossilbe.)
- Personally I doubt that Toriyama will produce a fourth Dragon Ball series. Since the end of Dragon Ball GT all he's worked on are for the most part one-shots, but he has no obligation to produce even that considering he's already established himself as one of the world's most successful manga artists. With the epic proportions achieved by the franchise, it's more than likely that it has been years since Akira Toriyama was obligated to work a day in his life. Though he does tease the Dragon Ball fanbase on occasion, crossing over its characters in mangas such as Neko Majin and Cross Epoch. He did say in 2007 how the Blue Dragon anime would most likely be his final venture in anime productions, but then again Bird Studio went on to do Yo! Son Goku. But I don't know, personally I'm not expecting anything. Storm 22:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Super Saiyan 2???
it is mentioned in this article that when demonstrating the concept of hidden battle power to tarble, goku turns into a Super Saiyan 2, i'd like to dispute that if i may, although there is indeed lightning featured in the transformation, goku's hair is not consistent with Super Saiyan 2.
Also it is mentioned in  this article on wikipedia that Toriyama changed the Super Saiyan aura in Neko Majin Z so that it contained lightning also. Although that is not a canonical series, as this movie is supposedly written by the man himself, it would be logical in my opinion to assume that he merely kept that change in.
Thoughts? Saiya-jin supa senshi 14:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Saiya-jin Supa Senshi
It's not a movie
I see that you've classed it as a film when it clearly isn't.
It's called an OVA = Original Video Animation
Gohan-kun 11:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Why would the designations "OVA" and "film" be mutually exclusive? An OVA is just a film or series that's made specifically for release on home video, is it not? -- 04:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
But it's definitely not a theatrical film is it? Gohan-kun 16:13, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Not to my knowledge. Now that you specify that, I see where the problem is. Fixed the movie template. -- 11:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. I guess I'm at a loss as to where it gets classified then. :-D -- 10:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Everywhere ive been,ive seen it be called Heya! Son Goku and his friends return not YO! son Goku and his friends return minor difference,but still, should ,make note of it somewhere --Silver Sinspawn 09:37, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
A typical Toriyamia-Plothole?
After I saw the respective scene on YouTube, there's one thing that I think should be mentioned (possible addition to the Trivia section?):
It's quite reasonable that Vegeta has adopted Japanese/Asian rituals & manners (like bowing down politely while greeting his sister-in-law), but how it comes the longtime-isolated Tarble & Gure know about those? This possibly is a common mistake in many Manga/Anime - projecting their own cultural behavior onto any country or society they are depicting; another noticeable example of this would be in "The Secret of Blue Water", where the three females aboard the Nautilus (Nadja, Marie & the blonde girl whose name I forgot) are taking a bath in Japanese style rather than the Western way ;-) Edit: Her name's Elektra ^_^
Vegeccolo 10:23, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
- That's not really a plot hole. Customs don't effect the story in Dragon Ball Z. Like you said it's just Toryiyama projecting his society's customs onto his characters since he's well, Japanese. Kibafool 19:13, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
- It's no more a plot hole than the Namekians all speaking Japanese/English without ever going to Earth.
Could they be telepathic? Vegeccolo 11:44, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
Reasons for Editing
Sorry for my minor edit, but I had to correct the somewhat improper grammar around here.
And who is it running around the wikis always confusing "their" and "there"?
Vegeccolo 06:10, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
- There's no need to apologise for editing a page. As for your reason to edit the page, you don't have to tell us why in the talk page of the article. Simply say what why you edited the page in the Edit Summary. This section can be found next to the Save Page and Preview buttons. Of course, if you feel that what you just edited was minor, you can just check 'Minor Edit'. This is next to Save Page and Preview as well. Thanks 06:18, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Should the manga version of this OVA get made? Well, I guess you'll need to list the chapters, just like the DB manga page has. Does anyone agree? Yummy! 11:33, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
There already is one CyberTiger 19:35, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
When will this movie be made available in the U.S.? Why has it taken FUNimation so long to get the right to distribute it???Super Saiyan Historian 09:10, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Editing out false manga difference
One of the differences for Ooishi's manga is " Gregory, a filler character, appears in the anime version, however, he is nowhere to be seen in the manga version", but Gregor is in the manga adaptation too. Chapter 2, during the Gotenks fight Gregory can be seen with Bubbles and Satan eating food inside.Zenin0 (talk) 13:30, July 5, 2015 (UTC)
i guess yo son goku and his friends return movie is no longer canon.
neither are battle of gods or fukkatsu no f.
in yo son goku, which happens 2 years after kid buu is killed, gohn and videl are not yet married and don´t even live together. but in dragon ball super, the are about to get married within a few months after kid buu´s defeat. i think it may be a significant plothole.
as for battle of gods and fukktsu no f... well, beerus is awake a few months after the buu saga in dragon ball super, but in battle of gods movie he only wakes up after 4 years after the buu saga plus he doesnt know what happened to the saiyans, who were killed a year or 2 before he went to sleep. and since fukkatsu no f is its sequel, kinda, i think its no longer canon either.
i think dragon ball super is a retcon of the 3 movies, and its going to retell the stories of battle of gods and fukkatsu no f. —This unsigned comment was made by SonGoku-God (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!
- They were never canon, thank you very much. 20:07, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
Movie or OVA?
I saw there was a conversation about this before but that was 7 years ago so I just made a new one. Anyways, shouldn't this be classified as a film? It first appeared at a FESTIVAL and wasn't given a DVD release for almost a year after that, and even when it did get a DVD release, it was only a limited edition. How could that possibly qualify it as an OVA? DBZ 323 (talk) 23:10, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
This isn't an OVA
I see there has been some discussion about what to label this release in the past, but both times it seems to have been settled on "OVA". This classification really makes no sense; per Wikipedia, an OVA is a "Japanese animated films and miniseries made specially for release in home video formats without prior showings on television or in theatres, though the first part of an OVA series may be broadcast for promotional purposes." But Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!! was not made for the home video market: it was made for (and premiered at) a film festival before getting a wider release over the internet. In fact, it's never gotten a widely-available nor even standalone release on home video— its widest distribution being as a bonus feature! "OVA" simply does not match how Yo! Son Goku… has actually been released.
Moreover, the OVA classification seems to be unique to this wiki. Wikipedia calls it a "(short) film"; AnimeNewsNetwork considers it an "ONA" (original net animation— based on its limited web release, I suppose) and MyAnimeList puts it as a "special". I can understand if the intent was to keep Yo! Son Goku… separate from the "real, main" films, but calling it an OVA just doesn't make sense. It's more appropriate and accurate to call it a special. — Charchetype (talk) 23:12, June 10, 2019 (UTC)
This is ova jump special. It was presented as one. It's not a special --Nikon23 23:49, June 10, 2019 (UTC)
- "Presented as one" where? Provide a source or at least some sort of justification. The release history— which I have detailed, both on the main article and in the above message— certainly doesn't support it being an OVA. — Charchetype (talk) 06:17, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
Why dont you go learn the rules first because coming here trying to cause confusion. 😒 this isn't wikipedia Nikon23 12:02, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Sure, could you point me in the direction of what rule you speak of? I have checked the Manual of Style and other guidelines, as well as relevant talk pages, and see no policy that addresses how Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!! should be classified. It would be good to have for future reference, since others have expressed confusion in the past, too! — Charchetype (talk) 19:44, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
Film or Other Story?
This special is included in Other Dragon Ball Stories on Goku's page but Film Appearances on Vegeta's page, as well as Bulma, Piccolo etc. I didn't want to move anything until we're sure but what are we counting this as because it can only be one or the other.Bullza (talk) 15:42, September 7, 2019 (UTC)
- Thinking about it more, this obviously isn't a film, so shouldn't really be in the film section. So if anything it belongs more in the other stories section however that was usually reserved for entirely random stories that had no significant ties to the main story like the games, the 4-D shows or some off shoot manga's. So should it be it's own section in the main biography following the Majin Buu saga? Which may or may not have been where it once was at one point or other.Bullza (talk) 14:31, September 8, 2019 (UTC)