Talk:Commander Red

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Commander Red was no puppet leader

That is just something that the dub made up for whatever reason. Commander Red was the absolute leader, Gero was just their scientist.

Majin42 00:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

That still doesn't explain why the whole flashback of the RRA in "Goku's Double Trouble" is played up to be Dr. Gero as the true leader of the Red Ribbon Army (Like mentioning that he is the "Brains" of the organization when saying that Tao Pai Pai was the "Heart", for example.)

When I first saw the Trunks saga, I thought that Dr. Gero was the leader and that he was Commander Red in the flashback, and that Goku didn't recognize Android 20 because he was old. That would have been a better twist! - Turtle Soup 07:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Dr. Gero was merely a doctor working under the red ribbon army. He was the brains of the operation in the sense that it was his genius they used for their benefit. That still doesn't make him the leader. The leader was without a shred of doubt Commander Red. Even if we take the flashback from that episode in the account, where Master Roshi explains that Gero is the brains, he never mentions that Gero is the absolute leader of the organization, whilst we know for a fact that Gero isn't anything near the top of the organization. We have Commander Red, Adjutant Black, General Blue, and General White all above him in terms of rank. - User:PrinceZarbon/sig 15:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I know. But when I mean is when I saw the episode "Mystery Revealed", I was partially confused about what had happened during Goku's encounter with the Red Ribbon Army because the original Dragon Ball anime saga has yet to air on Toonami. I didn't know who they were yet at the time, just that Dr. Gero was a member. When I saw the flashbacks, I saw a guy with red hair and an eyepatch who was the leader, I thought it was Dr. Gero much younger, I didn't know it was Commander Red (who was the true leader). And I thought the reason that the Z Warriors (and the viewers) didn't know it was Android 20 was Gero was because he got older and doesn't wear an eyepatch. Does that make sense? - Turtle Soup 06:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)