Talk:Android 17

Bandanna color

His bandnna is orange like in the anime in the original 90's manga: http://www.fullpowerdbz.com/galerie/upload/2010/04/18/20100418094510-38639c47.jpg It's only on one of the Kanzenban manga cover (which was made in the 2000's), that it is red. JeangabinTalkContrib 20:14, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Shardsilver and Jeangabin666's edits

I don't want to join an edit war, but I think Shardsilver's edit is fine, as 17's beliefs at the time are indicative of his personality. Shakuran13ThisendsNOW! 20:06, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

I looked again at his edit summery, and I don't see what was really wrong with what was said ether in my edit. Also being prideful; believing yourself to be the strongest was a part of his personality up at least until he was absorbed by Cell. 2nd, There was no edit war, he misused his use of Rollback on something that was not vandalism and provided no explanation until after I warned him about that. Shardsilver (talk) 20:52, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have said it differently. It technically wasn't an edit war yet, but I feel that if I reverted Jeangabin666's edit, it would have become one. Also, when there's an edit dispute, you're supposed to leave the page as it was before the disputed edit, so you should have left it undone, as it was before your edit. Shakuran13ThisendsNOW! 21:29, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

17's thinking he's the strongest isn't a personnality trait. It's one of his beliefs at one point in his life. We can't write under a personnality section: ~"17 thought he was the strongest until he met Cell and 16." Being overconfident or egocentric are personnality traits, but a belief isn't. JeangabinTalkContrib 09:37, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

isn't beliefs part of the personnality. it's 17's arrogance(personnality) that makes him think he's the strongest (belief).    The         R-                              -Less      One                                             10:30, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

It has to be written so that a personnality trait is reflected, his arrogance or overconfidence. Not a belief at one point in his life, which can be used as an example but which isn't a personnality trait. JeangabinTalkContrib 10:35, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

...Beliefs at a point in his life is a personality trait you know (why're you acting like only current matters? Personality sections are not just about how he currently is. Also beliefs are every bit part of someones personality as well because it is their motivations and overconfidence etc).. Also did you even read where it was, it was where his pride was brought up, it was in the right place (how he was at one point matters every bit as much as how he currently is). If you're still going to persist after this, I'll put in the bio itself in the respective parts, however If there are no more arguments, can this matter be put to rest and the info re-added in the personality section where it should be?  Shardsilver (talk) 14:15, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, Jeangabin666, 17's arrogance is reflected in his beliefs; it's a testament to his arrogance that 17 believes he is the strongest. I say keep it in there, perhaps word it slightly differently. Shakuran13ThisendsNOW! 22:19, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re-added it, with a tad different wording, as you suggested. Shardsilver (talk) 22:38, January 3, 2014 (UTC)