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[[Category:{{{1}}}|Power levels stated for broly and gogeta]]
In an issue of V-jump Broly was stated to have a power level of 1,400,000,000 (as a legendary super saiyan in the first broly movie) and super gogeta was stated to have a power level of 2,500,000,000. This can't be accurate. First of all, Gogeta obviously had a power level around, if not equal to, that of vegito. Well, Vegito is shown to be stronger than goku super saiyan 3 in his base so gogeta should be too. Goku ssj3 is also obviously more powerful than lssj broly so gogeta's base form should have a power level way higher than that of lssj broly. Howerver this isn't true according to v-jump. Since ssj multiplies a power level by 50, according to v-jump, in his base form, gogeta has a power level of a measly 500,000,000 (which also according to v-jump is just a little bit stronger than cooler in his final form who was defeated by ssj goku). So the power levels stated by v-jump can't be considered cannon. 2,500,000,000 would make sense as gogeta's power level in his base form but v-jump states it as his power level in his ssj form. To disprove these power levels even more, is base form gogeta had a power level of 500,000,000 and final form cooler had a power level of 470,000,000 then base gogeta would be weaker than the androids!! None of these v-jump power levels make any sense at all. any thoughts?
give me a link to the post where it's stated
It's on the list of power levels page
It's WRONG![]
Broly nor Gogeta's power lies in the millions. Broly's power level is some where around 11,000,000,000, and Gogeta's power level is far beyond that. Frieza in his second form made just about over 1 million, so it wouldn't make any logical sense for Gogeta and Broly's power level to be that low. Ssj4Vegito94----DBZ4EVER!!!! 15:05, February 18, 2012 (UTC)ssj4Vegito94
ummmm guys i think u got it wrong it stated gogeta power level was 2,500,000,000 and brolly was 1,400,000,000 so yea there are in the billions but me personally think it should be higher.
Unnecessary information-- 
I'llBe.Here.Till.Hell.Freezes.Over.....talk.....contrib. 04:24, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
its worng... BUT ITS OH SOOO RIGHT
Quackulon The Duck Tyrant (talk) 04:42, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, is wrong.. (wall of text...)[]
Gogeta' base form is kinda difficult to know, since he only appeard on SSJ form in DBZ. It is also difficult to know about Vegito's base form, since in the manga Vegito only fought Buu on his SSJ form, so if Vegito on his base form was really that strong (head-to-head with Buu), his SSJ form, which would be 50x stronger would be waaay too much.. but if Vegito on his SSJ form was not much stronger than Buu with Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan absorbed (like 30-50% stronger); his base form would be too weak to really fought Buu that way, since it will be 50x weaker. Well, inconsistences..
It is also hard to unknown anything beyond Cell (incluing Gohan SSJ2 and the Super Perfect Cell' power levels), because we dont know, officially, the multipliers. Although I did read somewhere that said that SSJ2 was 2x stronger than the power of the person on his SSJ form by that time, and SSJ3 3x stronger than SSJ2. So I would say that Super Gogeta was around 50-55 billions.. I know it sounds too much, but to make it simple to see it:
Goku on his full power SSJ form was around 1.3 bi since he fought perfect Cell pretty good (my calculations would put Vegeta at least at 1 billion when he fought Cell for the first time, to clarify); Gohan was weaker, so 1,1 bi. So, his SSJ2 would be around 2.2 bi, which will put him basically 50% stronger than perfect Cell, the minimum imo based on the fight. After that is even more difficult to know, since we dont know how much stronger Goku, Vegeta and etc. turned out after 7 years of training. But I would put Goku SSJ2 around 3,5 bi (assuming that Goku could apprimorate his FPSSJ form even more), and on his SSJ3 form he would be around 10 bi. Fat Buu will be around 9 bi, since Goku said that he could probably beat him, I would put him 10% weaker than Goku SSJ3. Super Buu would be around 9 as well, since he is basically the Fat Buu with the evil side more dominant (so he could use his ki better than the fat Buu which makes he seen stronger than the fat Buu).
So, I would put Vegito SSJ at least 50% stronger than Buu with everyone absorbed. Here it gets complicated as well, since we dont know if he could use all the absorbed fighters' ki, but if we analyze, ultimate Gohan seen to be 50-60% stronger than Buu, so around 15 billions; when Buu absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo he get around 30% stronger than Gohan, so, lets say, around 20 bi; Gotenks himself was around 20-30% stronger than Super Buu, so ~12 billions for him, therefore Buu basically uses all Gotenks ki when he absorbed him, it would be the same with Gohan, so around 35 bi when he absorbs Gohan. Vegito SSJ which seen waaay stronger than Buu, lets say 50%, would be around 53 billions then. Gogeta SSJ also would be arround that, lets say 50 billions since some people believe that Gogeta was actually weaker than Vegito. Since SSJ form would put him 50x stronger, Gogeta's base form would be around 1 billion and Vegito' around 1,1 (so, technically, Vegito on his normal form was WAAY too weak compared to Buu in any form to fought that way).
Some things could be different though. The first one is the percentages of course, the other would be super Buu actually getting stronger than the fat Buu (although, for me, its unlikely). But, even with that, I do think that Gogeta SSJ form would be around 50 billions, and Broly on his LSSJ form was around 2,5 billions (since he seen to be stronger than adult Gohan SSJ2 - who, said by Vegeta, was weaker than when he fought Cell, so he was probably around 2 bi, which makes Broly 25% stronger than him). But again, these are my estimations. :P
the above is a bit wrong
gogetas power level was stated to be 2.5 bill so if SSJ form would put him 50x stronger his power level would be 125 billion so he would totally destroy super buu and everyone else in the series but acording to your estimation super buus power level is around 35 bilion and it is said the base vegitos power level is the same as super buus power level and that would mean that in SSJ from he would be 1.75 trillion which is a FUCKLOAD
Gogeta should be way stronger[]
Well, you can't really trust those power levels from V-Jump. They put Cooler at 470,000,000, and untrained SSJ Goku was 150,000,000. Also, that would make Base Gogeta too weak for a fusion character, seeing as how Vegito (Base Form) could've beaten Super Buu (he went straight to SSJ in manga, but Old Kai said Base was enough I think), who was clearly stronger than Broly, and Gogeta can't be all that much weaker than Vegito. 2,500,000,000 isn't even twice as much as 1,400,000,000.
As for Vegeta being 6,000,000 on the power levels list, that's just BS, because he was stronger than Goku when he first transformed. That PL was probably from some videogame or some other guidebook.
Basically, Gogeta should completely outclass Broly, exponentially.
That cooler power level is dead wrong, should be around 200,000,000. Anyway, I think Gogeta's in his base form has a higher power level than 2,500,000,000.
what nobody understands[]
Their power levels are very far away ... If somebody has a pl of 700 and another has a power level of 1000 ... The guy with 1000 is going to win . Think about the difference between goku and nappas powerlevel it wasn't a huge gap like we have with gogeta and Broly, but nappa still couldn't lay a hand on goku.... Broly. It's basic math people come on .
Nope, in this case it's not a big enough gap. Broly is about as strong as SSJ2 Goku at most. It's pretty apparent that base form Gogeta would be much stronger than SSJ2 Goku (since base Gotenks was much stronger than SSJ2 Goku), so SSJ Gogeta should be many times stronger than that. To say that SSJ Gogeta is less than double Broly's power is just inaccurate. Janemba4eva (talk) 19:59, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
They're partially correct[]
The 2,500,000,000 power level for gogeta is right. It makes perfect sense. However, the power level they put for broly is too high. Broly is a little weaker than ssj2. Ssj3 is a lot stronger than ssj2 and gogeta was a lot stronger than ssj3. Brolys power level shouldn't even be in the billions--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 22:51, December 13, 2012 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96
True Power Levels[]
Their powers were mentions in DBZ dragon furry
Broly: 3,457,890,123
Gogeta: 6,781,238,649
Gogeta SSJ4: unknown
Nao Nao, This is In My Opinion Correct.[]
While everyone in this website is very very stupid, none of this makes any sense. Okay listen. All of you fail to understand is that Broly (LEGANDARY SUPER SAYIN.) Is stronger then Gogeta (SUPER SAYIN 3.) The only reason Gogeta won the fight in the movie is because Goku and Vegeta are the main charecters they have a more important role then Broly. So the of course Gogeta will win, if they don't one of the Z fighters will. Because they have an important role in the t.v. series Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT. So if the creater makes Gogeta win, which they will no matter what he's going to say that Broly's power level is lower than Gogeta because he got defeated by him. But in reality I would say Broly's power level is about 500,000,000,000 possiby more, and Gogeta's power level about 3,500,000,000. And the reason i say that Gogeta ssj 3's power level is 3,500,000,000 is because Goku ssj 4 would be stronger than him, and his power level is like 4,300,000,000.
So the only reason Broly lost is because Goku and Vegeta play an important role in the t.v. series and in the plot of the whole story. So, stfu and gtfo.
Is it really that hard to believe that the scouter ki levels given by V-jump are correct[]
Well as stated before in Dragon Ball Z to win a fight you require more then just the highest ki. Technique techniques and speed also play a big role in winning a fight. Exsample Raditz had a ki 1500 when he fought Piccolo and goku who had ki of 408 and 416 which is 3x or 4x weaker then Raditz ki. But goku´s kamehameha produces over 950 in raditz reading so goku could take out somebody 2x or 3x stronger then him self with a kamehameha Goku was150,000,000 maybe 160,000,000 when he fights Cooler 5th form who had a ki of 470,000,000 so goku can beat guys way stronger then himself with a full power kamehameha. He proves it again and again not because of his ki is the highest but because of his techniques and perseverance. piccolo having a max ki of 408 can create a special beam cannon of 1440 thats empresive even thow it take forever. I dont think a ssj like goku got to much stronger in that one year of training with gohan in the chamber. Yes Trunks and Vegeta seem way stronger then 2nd form cell but again it´s obvious its not becuase of their ki. Becuase cell is able to scense ki which is a rare feat in bad guys so he should have noticed them being stronger then himself if they were. Vegeta over powers cell with speed and that big bang is problebly something like the kamehameha any ways ki of even Super Trunks is not close to enough to beat cell with out speed to go along so big buff bad guys usssauly need a ridicules ki to stand up to the z fighter speed and skills exsample Broly who is close to ssj3 Goku in my calculations. But Broly cant compare to ssj3 goku not even close becuse Broly is so slow he has a hard time catching goten and trunks even videl.Blablabla57 (talk) 21:40, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
BROLYVILLIAN EVER[]
in my opinion, dbs gogeta in base is 6.25x times stronger than ssj4 gogeta and gt gogeta in base is 80x super goku base, And ssj4 gogeta is 1.6x stronger than super goku in ssjb during top.
my personal powerlevels for these would be
gt goku/vegeta base = 100 billion
ssj = 5 trillion
ssj2 = 10 trillion
ssj3 = 40 trillion
ssj4 = 400 trillion
ssj4fp = 4 quadrillion
and while i doubt it, if perfecting forms increases multiplier then
ssj = 50 trillion
ssj2 = 100 trillion
ssj3 = 400 trillion
ssj4 = 4 quadrillion
ssj4fp = 40 quadrillion
gogeta base = 80 quadrillion gogeta ssj4fp = 3.2 sextillion (if perfecting forms increases multiplier)
gt gogeta base = 8 quadrillion (normal) gt gogeta ssj4fp = 320 quintillion (normal)
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super goku/vegeta base (movie) = 105 trillion
ssj = 5.25 quadrillion
ssjg = 42 quintillion
ssjb = 210 quintillion
dbs gogeta base = 4.2 sextillion
ssj = 210 sextillion
ssjb = 8.4 octillion
so in my opinion ssjb gogeta would be 700x ui goku,
about 680x beerus (base) 100%
and 125,000,000x ssj4 gogeta
GOGETA IS WEAKER THAN VEGITO
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THEY NEVER SHOWED GOGETAS BASE FORM! SO FOR ALL WE KNOW THERE ISNT ONE!
NOW GOGETA AND VEGITO ARE *NOT THE SAME POWER LEVEL*
vegito is stronger bcs hes fusion *IS PERMANMENT!*
also *BROLY IS THE STRONGEST BAD GUY EVER*
ands the porrof is in his power level. hes above kid buu.
It took a ssj(goku, combined with all the power of 3 other ssj's and a super namek!
so it took over a ssj4 power level to defeat broly
- broly has never been beaten 1 on 1*
on every fight it takees multiple super saiyan to do any damage.
- BUT NOW BROLY GOES LSSJ3*
(not just ssj3 bcs he is in his lssj when he goes 3)
Like they said in his moveis, his ki just keeps rising.
broly is a different form of super saiyan, hes legendary(its a different form like super trunks, or super vegeta)
A legendary saiyan is born every 1000 years.(as movies said)
Also if gt is canon(broly has gone lssj4 in dbz heroes)
I count ssj3 broly canon bcs (hes been in over 4 games, has trading cars, toys,and alot more)
I count broly as the most canon movie charecter bcs *AKIRA TORIYAMA CREATED HIM* he drew him!
Broly haters need to get over it.
jid buu was killed by goku, cell after teen gohan and goku killed him got owned in hell by goku,
but *BROLY HAS NEVER BEEN BEATEN ON A 1 ON 1 FIGHT!!!* <--- you sir are an idiot. SSJ2 is equal to fifty super Saiyans and SSJ3 is equal to 5000 super Saiyans. Also, it is PROVEN that Brody could be beaten easily by Goku in the Cell Saga. Broly fan-girls need to get over it. Broly is a fan made character and was never meant to exist anyway.
SSJ Goku's power level during the Cell Saga was around twenty million. The rest of the Super Saiyans were at about eighteen million and piccolo was about five to ten million. If Brody could beat them all without breaking a sweat, then his power level is at least 93 million... But NEVER in the billions.
Clearly you have no idea what canon even means and your Broli wanking is so absurd it's borderline romantic crush fanboyism... It's funny how Broli fans love saying "Broli haters need to move on" yet all the Broli fans provide is nonsense that was never implied, shown, stated, or proven to be fact, much less canon... Broli wankers need to get off his dick...
This is why..[]
Power levels were phased out by AT to begin with for a reason and fan made and/or non canon power level lists, official or not, are better left ignored and taken with a grain of salt. It's like the Daizenshuu figures that don't make sense. Are they official? Sure, but official =/= canon either. It's like how the movies are official projects of the DBZ franchise by Toei, but are non canon. The video games are official but non canon (Budokai 3 stated that Appule beat up Vegeta for example).... So, yeah..
Those numbers are total BS. So is Cooler being 480,000,000.