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... and I'll tell you why. He has absolutely no sense of responsibility about anything except beating up bad guys (but not killing them of course cuz goku doesn't do that) conveniently in the name of saving the earth. Ya he cares enough about all these randomn jack-off humans to put his life on the line but after the fireworks are over either declines or postpones returning to his loving family.

"well now that i know instant transmission i could just go home right this moment to my wife and son who thought i was dead, but i think i'd rather hang out with these wierd little aliens for months on end while my wife continues to support a household and pay bills all on her own. however when i do get there ill be sure to train everyday in lieu of getting a job because a stranger "from the future" said i should. not to worry though ill hang out with chi-chi just long enough to knock her up"

"No thanks guys I'd rather chill in other world than come back to life to raise my teenage son who's just started puberty and probably needs a father now more than ever, piccolo you got this right? why you ask? well ive kicked alot of ass over the years (never collected a single paycheck in my life though and have gotten by solely on the good graces of friends) and most people dont like me. so in the very likely event that another evil person will threaten the earth in the name of my death (because thats a going concern, i seem to have forgotten that all of the most powerful fighters in the universe live on the same planet with me anyway) i think im gonna chill king kai. after all someone's gotta give me a place to live."

"oh wow one day on earth. you know instead of doing the appropriate thing and spending the entire day with my family, including my wife who birthed my two sons and by some miracle still considers me her husband, my first son who due to groing up most of his life without a father turned into a big pussy (seriously what happened to him, he used to be hardcore) and my second son whom ive NEVER EVEN MET but for some thinks im awesome. no i think id rather drag us all to some stupid tournement that i can completely dominate just to massage my own ego"

goku has never had a job.

goku doesn't have his license.

goku has no knowledge of finances and probably thinks the electricity in his house is magic

goku did not graduate nor even been to school.

and did i mention hes never had a job


ARE YOU A GIRL?

Now I am really just putting up a counter arguement for the LULZ. Goku was to far away to use Instant Transmission because you need to focus on someones energy. All I can say is Goku married into a somewhat Wealthy family (Not as wealthy as Vegeta did thought) and Chi chi probably has the money for Goku to not need a job. Goku is to pure of heart to think like that he will just stay long enough to Knock Chi Chi up and in fact he didn't know he had another son. He stayed in the other world because he believe trouble followed him because Frieza and King Cold came to earth to seek revenge, Dr. Gero made the androids for revenge, and Cooler came to avange the death of his brother. Goku doesn't have an ego he just went to a world tournamate to compete with his family there because if you haven't noticed Chi chi and Gohan have both been in world tournaments and they train Goten to fight, too. Goku had a Job a a radish farmer in Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return! He can fly what does he need a license. How do you know what goes on in Goku's mind. Yeah, but he is smart enough to find his opponites weakness. Oh did i mention Goku was a radish farmer? SSJ4 Vegito (talk) 12:22, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Goku has had (private) school lessons btw. He and Krillin were taught by Master Roshi.


Did I forget to mention that I'm a fucking retard?

Duh[]

That's because this is Dragonball not EastEnders -_-

When did Chi-chi get an account here?[]

You right, spending time with the family is more important than the earth being destroyed.

And it's not like Goku never knew what everyday-life complication was since he lived in the woods for his childhood and teen years, nah he's just a big dummy.

And it's certainly not like he cared for every person on the planet to stay dead and attract evil by his existence!

What in the hell...[]

You do realize Dragon Ball isn't real, correct..?

Goku isn't a real person. But if he was, the world would be a far better place.

Hmm Let's See here

First of all if he didn't spend time saving the planet he wouldn't be able to spend time with his family. They would all be dead.

Goku is Good[]

Chi-Chi's dad, Ox-King, is very wealthy, so Goku doesn't need a job. Also, why don't you go back and watch the episodes during the wait period for the cell games. Goku is shown driving, so Goku does have his liscence.

Specialbeamkamehameha 20:36, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Obviously.[]

No ****. Good job mr.obvious. I mean honestly everyone knows he was a horrible father. He spent his only day on earth alive (as far as he knew) in a tournament instead of with the son he never knew. Yamcha626 23:31, October 27, 2011 (UTC)yamcha626

songoku[]

no goku is always kind to his sons and not a terrble father or husband if you hate goku so much

don,t even watch the show dummy you just insulted the powerest person ever in the history of tv land


^ The amount of fragments and miss spellings in this pathetic excuse for a paragraph is laughable.

Although I have to agree with you, Goku is all but terrible. He's kind and a kid at heart.

songoku[]

oh yeah in the cell games episode goku spent time with gohan before they went their

Just kinda sad[]

To postulate such a thing in the first place and: to write such a lengthy argument about a fictional character indicates to me that you are watching dragonball Z too heavily or invoking personal feelings with the anime. Remember, it's just an anime, there is no need to postulate whether a fictional character would be a good father or not. However, the anime is open to interpretation.




Hope you get well



Concern citizen of the net.


Son, writing things in gray font and using big words won't make you smart, especially when you forget "ed" at the end of your sentence. This is what's called a debate; people do these for a number of reasons. In this instance, it's for fun. Is it that every time a debate happens on the internet, you think it makes the people involved stupid? Also, take notice at how the people who agree with him generally type in complete sentences, while those who disagree type like mentally challenged ants. You fall in neither group, leading to your smug, pseudo-intelligent post. Have fun white knighting in the future; Arthur always needs help. --DARK 11:11, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not necessarily... Remember Cooler's Revenge? Goku spent time with Gohan to go camping.

AND let us not forget that Goku didn't even agree to marry Chi-Chi. Back in the day, she said she bet her father would give her hand to him...


HE'S HALF-RETARDED, C'MON PEOPLE.


What i think- by Spinno[]

Goku is not a bad father, considering he risks his life to save his family. He included Gohan in saving the world to pass on his fighting skills, he's with his son. Chi-Chi needs to wait for a period of time where no villains appear, then she can have Goku get a job and put Gohan in school. The guys need to save the world, otherwise there will be no employment offices or schools to save. Got it?

Alright, kids, you've forced my hand.[]

Goku is a terrible father. He is a good person, but I would NOT want to be Chi-Chi. It doesn't matter that he never wanted to marry her; he promised, and he followed through with it. Not only that, he always did like her as at least a friend. Since that's out of the way, let's move on with the actual content of his parenting.

So, one of Gohan's first instances of his hidden power is when his stroller goes wild and he blasts through a tree. And why did that stroller run away? Because Goku got distracted and let go of it. Here's a running theme with him; he's not that attentive.

Next, we have him raising Gohan up to age 4, where nothing much (other than the before mentioned example) happened. Unless you count filler, meaning he would regularly let Gohan wander off into the woods and get himself into dangerous situations.

So, Raditz kidnaps him; totally out of his control and he fought to get him back. Then Goku dies for a year, meaning that's a full year of no one but Piccolo training and raising him. After Goku comes (late, mind you), he rescues Gohan from being killed.

After the fight with Vegeta (where they are all beaten to hell and back), he sets off with Krillen and Bulma for Namek. Goku goes a month later than them and arrives just as he's about to die (again). That reunion doesn't last long, as Goku loses his body to Ginyu, then Goku heals for over 9000 episodes while Vegeta, Krillen, Piccolo, and Gohan get tossed around by Frieza. When Goku finally does come out of the healing tank, he saves them all again. As the battle nears the end, Gohan and the rest escape off the planet, Goku seemingly choosing utter demise to fight someone strong rather than escaping with the rest at the last second and staying with his family.

After Goku confirms to everyone that he is alive, he opts not to be brought back to Earth immediately, rather training with a bunch of weird looking aliens to learn a fighting skill. After Goku finally does come home (slower than he could, too), the first thing he does is get Gohan to train with him for the Androids arrival, something Gohan hates due to not liking to fight. After this, he gets a heart virus, so he's bed ridden for a while and can't do anything while the rest get beaten around by 17 and 18.

So, finally, they get to train together in the RoSaT for the equivalent of 2 years (they probably could do some bonding in that amount of time). They spend the last 10 days together as a family (unless you count movies that happen during this time, meaning they spend most of the time fighting other threats). The Cell Games come around and Goku dies after Gohan is forced into fighting and gets beaten around like a rag doll for the first half of the fight. So, instead of being returned to Earth to live happily with his family, he'd rather stay in Otherworld and fight strong opponents (Japanese version).

So, during this time, Goten is born and they both grow up without a father (something, if you look closely, is quite apparent in Goten's behavior as well). As lots of people whine, Gohan really did become quite mellow during this time, as he had no guiding adult through any of the normal teenage challenges in his life (puberty, actually going to a school, etc.). Aside from Piccolo (who's already out due to not having a father either, or a penis), he's got Krillen, someone who just now managed to find a wife after 30+ years of living, Yamcha, the Dragon Ball equivalent of a less cool Charlie Sheen, Tien, who's a recluse and lives with a possessed doll thing, or Vegeta, who's busy with his own family, to teach him about these things (which I'm sure none of them did).

Goku gets to come back for a day, and he chooses to spend it at a tournament. Yes, it's a bonding experience for his new son and a way to reconnect with his oldest, but I'd think they'd rather go to an amusement park, or a picnic, or just stay home and meet each other. And half way through the tournament, Goku is called away to fight Vegeta and such, the only interaction he has with his sons being teaching Goten fusion and helping Gohan train to fight (didn't see that coming). When Kid Buu blows up the world, he lets them die as he teleports away from the planet. After defeating Buu, they're all revived and he gets to live with his family, giving Goten the reverse of what Gohan got (not having a father through his early life, but having one in his teen years). Several years later, he randomly leaves to go train some kid he just met, on the pretense that he's the reincarnation of Buu. This would be an excusable action if Goten was an adult and out on his own, but he was still just a teenager, being an important time for development in his life.

In GT, he meets his granddaughter for the first time in years, only having known her when she was a toddler before. And his return is marked by him being a child. Taking her along on the universe-wide journey to return him to an adult and stop the Earth from exploding, he endangers her the same way he'd always do with Gohan. He leaves again after the events of GT, as well as spending next to no real quality time with her outside of the Black Star Dragon Ball saga, besides fighting the Shadow Dragons (which would logically happen over a couple days or so).

Now that we've covered his parenting, let's talk about him as a husband. His presence around Chi-Chi is even more scarce than with his sons. Not only would that lead to an extreme distrust for him as a dependable partner, but an amazing amount of sexual tension between the two. Not only that, she doesn't know what Goku is doing; how does she know he isn't with some other woman (women) while he's away "training" in the Otherworld (it is, "Till death do we part," after all). He also left her with two kids to raise almost on her own. Even after his return (being away for several years), he's been turned into a child again and has to run off to find Dragon Balls all over the universe. After finally defeating the numerous threats one after the other, he leaves again with Shenron, meaning Chi-Chi lives the rest of her life without a husband.

So, let's try to analyze Goku. I believe that his distant behavior towards his family is caused by not having a real family as a child. Not only was he raised by one elderly man he had no blood relation to, that same man was killed at a young age, leading him to consult a Dragon Ball every time he needed his grandfather's advice. His first human interaction was with Bulma at the age of 11, some time after Gohan's death. During this time, he had developed a sort of dependence on himself that can only come from living on your own for so long. To him, leaving his family the way he did was only natural. Gohan would have the same experience as he did as a child; a single parent there to support him and teach him the ways of life. He assumes Chi-Chi would be able to do the job, as she lived with a single parent as well. Not only that, Ox King had enough of that "money" stuff for the family to support all their needs, meaning any sort of jobs and such were unneeded, allowing him to do as he pleased.

In conclusion, as bad of a husband and father Goku is, his actions are understandable. He just raised his children as he was raised; a single parent experience in the woods with the passing interaction with others, including himself. He assumes this is the normal way of life, and even as he became more civilized, this was probably not something anyone would teach him, leading him to keep the belief it was the normal way to live. --DARK 19:52, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


*Applause*

Shakuran13 (talk) 20:56, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

same here

A master of deception∞ 20:59, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yea this post (no offence) is out of hate on said character, rather then an actual opinion (or fact). Sorry but if not for Goku being...GOKU! we'd have another Vegeta...and can we count how many times Vegeta has saved the Earth? Case closed. Don't diss Goku. Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chi-Chi

Btw, Goku spending time training his Son, Gohan, to fight rather then taking him to an amusement park, so that the Earh may be spared, is being a terrible father? Weird people here, let me tell ya.SuperGogeta91 00:40, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, an entire post made up of straight facts and references from the series is just nonsense. Not only that, you decide to assume I hate Goku, even though it ends with me saying his actions are understandable and begins with me saying he is a good person. I'm sure you didn't read that though. --DARK 01:18, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

^^


Actually, although you used facts, they were used in a hateful form. Let me give you an example.


"Gohan is a chicken! He never wants to fight, and always relies on other people to help him. instead of finishing something useless like Schooling, he should be out with his Father, or Piccolo, training! Gohans lousy."


Those are all facts, but as you can see, I used them in a way to make me look like I hate Gohan. There's a difference between constructive criticism, and pure hate. Something you don't seem to acknolwedge. SuperGogeta91 01:34, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

You're not only a moron, but an expert at twisting words. Politician in the making here. --DARK 01:41, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait! Who's the one who actually started the topic? If it's DARK, then my post above stands. If DARK isn't the one who started the topic by writing "Goku is a terrible father and even lousier husband..." then my first comment wasn't directed at you. My four comments (including this one) are directed at the person who wrote that long, hateful, paragraph on Goku being a terrible father and a lousy husband. So DARK if you'r not that person, then don't worry about my comments.

Really? I'm the moron? You wrote an incredibly long, hateful comment towards something that doesn't even exist. But somehow I'M the moron. Nice one bro lol. Hope you get well (mentally) :)SuperGogeta91 01:49, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Figured as much; you've lost the argument, so you resort to things such as twisting my words, insults, and questioning my sanity, even though you're at the same level as I am for commenting on this and giving half-assed comebacks at my thorough, thought provoking examination. Have fun failing. Didn't even need to go the Superman route to win this one. --DARK 01:54, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

^ Congratulations on winning a virtual battle. You win a virtual cookie, courtesy of me. Now seriously...get some help. SuperGogeta91 01:58, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

At this point, I'm just going to troll you, seeing as I'm bored and don't have anything to do right now (and neither do you, so I get to be mildly amused all night). --BobLogical 02:04, October 29, 2011 (UTC)


Goku is a pure, nice, helpful man who always thinks of others and has the best intentions.

1. He DOES spend a lot of time with his son, training and including him in battles, it's not like Gohan forgot about school entirely, he still went back to it after the earth was at peace.

2. Chi-Chi is just too nagging and a worrywort. she overestimates things and gives goku a hard time. even though what she says is right, goku and gohan are saving her and the entire world, including office buildings and schools.

So, if you want to blame it on somebody, blame it on the villains of DBZ, like Frieza, Cell and Buu. they distract the heroes from leading ordinary lives.

if i were the person who posted this forum, i'd be more thoughtful and considerate.

SPINNO

A lot of the things you said are either 1) Facts that are twisted with a bunch of assumptions that have no proof. 2) Made out of hate to the character 3) Not even mentioning the fact that Goku would HAVE NEVER Committed adultery despite what some people who are smoking pot think. 4) You assume as if GT took place when we forget that it was a terrible story that could be replaced with Dragonball Online. 5) Goku had to train with King Kai in order to beat Vegeta and Nappa, or else THEIR IS NO PLANET EARTH. 6) You weigh too heavily a few mistakes Goku did as a father. 7) Apparently you seem to forget that switching bodies with Ginyu wasn't his fault. 8)You seem to forget he had to make sure Frieza was dead. 9)Where do you get that Gohan hated to train with his father?10) He stayed in Other world because he was going to put everyone in danger if he came back to Earth. 11)YOU SEEM TO FORGET THAT HE TOLD VEGETA TO PICK UP HIS SONS. SO IN PART VEGETA IS ALSO TO BLAME PERHAPS A LOT MORE THAN GOKU.

I Honestly found your point of view to be extremely biased and extremely extreme. If you want to check out a bad parent, go ahead and see Darth Vader. He did things a million times worse than what Goku would have ever done. AND I WANT TO MAKE MYSELF EXPLICITLY CLEAR. I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN GOKU AS A FATHER-LIKE FIGURE, EVEN WHEN HE WAS A KID,AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE TRY TO DEFY AND MAKE HIM AN EVIL PERSON IS BEYOND MY LEVEL OF TOLERANCE. MY FURY AT THIS POINT HAS REACHED A PENNACLE.

User: Vargascowboy

He did a pretty good job though at being a father[]

Goku did a pretty good job being a father, both his sons look up to him, he gives hope to everyone, he taught his sons lots of things, and he made the world a better place for his family to live in. Ssj2gohan99 (talk) 10:59, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

wrong wife[]

He is probably a lousy husband because he married the wrong wife, Goku wanted to train Gohan and spend time together fishing and stuff but Chichi being a control freak forced Gohan to study all time.

Maybe if he married a girl that wasent like Chichi he could be an awesome husband.

I self think Suno would have been the best for Goku.

read this to know a good argument of mine[]

You think hes a terrible father?

Well guess what he dies at the start of z trying to save earth from raditz in frieza saga he goes to fight frieza and all tht on namek and no where near chi-chi so yeah in cell/android saga he needs to train gohan and stuff and eventually has time with gohan and chi-chi but than has to fight cell and dies because of saving earth with instant transmission in buu saga he dead and cums back spends time with family and friends does tournament has to fight evil like always and than after all tht just remember he isnt suppose to be smart he is suppose to be pure of heart and a martial artist (vegeta is suppose to be the smart saiyan in show)

I hope you don't actually think that's a good argument. Shakuran13 (talk) 00:12, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Extremist point of view[]

To think that Goku was a bad or terrible father, is an extremist point of view in my opinion, since even though he wasn't a perfect father, he was a seen as an angel by his son Gohan and Goten also loved him, not to mention that Chi-Chi adored Goku. Sure, he made some wrong decisions, like going out in the end of DBZ to train with Uub, but even that is not entirely justifiable since he probably used Instant Transmission to go back home and see his family. If you look at the storyline from Dragon Ball Online, which basically throws away GT, Goku stayed with his family, after the events of Majin Buu, more or less some 27 years. To categorize him as a terrible father is far-less-justifiable than people make the case to. He never committed adultery, was neither alcoholic or a drug addict, nor was abusive in any way.

lol[]

This thread is pretty hilarious (and somewhat truthful). I don't mind Goku training on King Kai's planet and pre-android saga because it was in preparation for an imminent threat - family bonding time can wait. But his decision after Cell's defeat was pretty selfish. The only villain that Goku brought to Earth without provocation was Raditz (the Future Trunks timeline shows that the androids would have come regardless of Goku's presence, and Goku knows this), so Goku's argument of staying in otherworld for the good of the Earth falls apart. But that pales in comparison to his decision with Uub. After 5 years, most of which was spent training and not spending time with family and friends, he leaves everyone behind to train Uub to be defender of the world, or so he says. As Vegeta senses, and Goku later reveals, his true motivation was to become stronger and have an opponent to test his strength against. The end of Z felt out of character, even for someone who loves to fight as much as Goku does.

tl;dr Goku is a great guy who usually has the interests of his friends in mind, but has made a few seriously selfish choices now and then. Janemba4eva (talk) 03:46, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

And to the guy above me-What proof do you have that he stayed 5 years training and barely saw his family, before the 28th World Martial Arts Tournament? And what proof do you have of after, when we have to remember that GT can be discarded and we can throw the Dragonball Online timeline in their. And sure, the androids would have attacked even if Goku would have been there or not but we seem to forget they WERE DESIGNED TO DESTROY HIM. So yes, the Earth could have been safer without him. We also seem to forget that it was originally intended for Gohan to have taken over Goku after the Majin Buu Saga, so they had to make up something to keep him dead, at least for a while. And as I have said before, saying that Goku was a bad or terrible father for doing things for selfishness is really nonesense, because 1) their is no proof to back up that he trained and never saw his family and 2) the fact that he saved the World and sacrificed himself is pretty selfless. So AS I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, TO CATEGORIZE GOKU AS A BAD FATHER IS FAR LESS JUSTIFIABLE THAN PEOPLE MAKE THE CASE TO. Vargascowboy

Goku made what he felt was the noble decision, but it still left Gohan and Goten without a father (which clearly worked to the disadvantage of Gohan). But again, his actions in the final episode are pretty inexcusable. He left behind his family and friends to test his strength against a powerful opponent. Besides, this thread is meant to poke fun of how Goku does not fulfill his duties as husband and father throughout the series. No need to caps lock at me... Janemba4eva (talk) 20:44, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, he doesn't fulfill that role entirely, I guess that could be said, but to me a terrible father is someone more like Darth Vader. User:Vargascowboy


Oh... really?[]

Of course hes a lousy father. (he doesnt work, and only fights) [earns no money]

Just when I thought I was safe from Chi-chi's yelling...[]

DBZ isn't real. Goku is not a lousy husband. If you call a person who saves the world over 9,000 times lousy, then you're crazy.

Vegeta88 (talk)

what the heck are you saying[]

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Goku's happy family

Goku is a loving husband and father. he always trains so that he could protect the ones that he loves and cares about and when he died he decided not to come back because he didnt want any more villans to attack earth because they wanted revenge on him. also Goku does have a job (even though chi chi is rich and he earns some money from tournaments) he's a radish farmer. and he dosent need to get his driver's licence (even though he gets own anyway) he can fly and use instant transmission. so theres no proof that Goku is a bad dad or husband

well thats what happens when you grow up in the woods alone.

You don't get it[]

You have to realize saiyans in general don't really make good parents. Secondly, goku always enjoyed training with gohan and he loved chi chi. He just didnt like shopping and taking crap from her all the time, what husband would?--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 05:41, January 22, 2013 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96

You seem the one who doesn't get it. Regardless of his heritage or any of those other factors, he's just not a good paternal figure or partner. He's constantly away or dead and chooses to spend time training rather than bonding or support his family. A business man is "good" in the sense he makes plenty of money for his family, but "bad" in the sense he never spends time with said family. That's Goku: He saves the world 20 times over, but that doesn't change the fact he's pretty neglectful towards his loved ones. --DARK 02:16, January 29, 2013 (UTC)


Goku's family was happy. If you have a family that loves you but you can't always spend time with them because of work(or in goku's case saving the universe many times). However overall you and your family are still happy this does not make you a bad father and husband. Gohan and goten were happy with the way he was and looked up to him--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 03:44, January 29, 2013 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96

That doesn't change the fact he's almost never there for them. Not to mention he actually chooses to leave his family for all kinds of stupid reasons many times. --DARK 20:38, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Stupid reasons? The first time Goku left on purpose was to SAVE HIS LOVED ONES. He sacrificed himself. The second time was literally fast fowarded all the way to Cell. Goku had to die to prevent Cell from destroying Earth. The third was when he left to train Uub. The last one is the least justified one, and even that one is because Uub had the potential to be the strongest Z-Fighter, and Earth needs that kind of protection. I doubt he would be gone forever. He can easily IT back to his family at ANY TIME.

Seriously?[]

I don't know how this is even an arguement you can skew facts anyway you want to make it look like one side is more convincing, but lets get real here goku was a good everything, father, husband, man ,etc.. 

Do you really think the people who created dragon ball and dragon ball z were thinking about  what Goku's private life with his family was going to be like when they made a protagonist with the mental capacity of the worlds strongest Forrest Gump....No they didn't, but seriously Goku was focused on fighting throughout the whole thing because fighting is fun for him and his son also enjoyed fighting it was in the blood of their "warrior race" his wife enjoyed fighting they all enjoyed fighting.. everyone thats majorly important in that series other than like the peaceful nameks... Saying Goku was a bad father because an evil villain wants to blow up the planet and he has to slightly neglect his family life to go and stop THE PLANET FROM EXPLODING... is a little bit ridiculous don't you think? It's like old kai's "well we can't use the namekian dragon balls to help us stop buu because they're meant for the namekians peaceful race only." and then dende goes (puttin it in my own words) "Oh yeah sorry that slipped my mind, I was too busy thinking about that little pink guy that's going to blow everything in the universe to kingdom come in a matter of a few short minutes, but yes yes lets not use namekian dragon balls I totally agree that its against principle." ............herp derp PLANET > SLIGHT NEGLECTION.


This whole arguement is like... if the president of the USA had to go and avert a nuclear missle crisis that would set in motion mutually assured destruction and he left his family for a year to go and live in russia or somewhere to sort it all out so it didnt happen, he'd be a bad father because he was gone for a year.... some people are ridiculous..

trippin',[]

Gokū was a very Loving & Wise Father, as well as an amazing husband. He's just a weird fellow due to his head injury as an infant, lol. xD ~

Goku is a good father.[]

I disagree. Goku is a sweet and considerate family man. How is he terrible? When he goes out to save the world, he' s doing it to save everyone, but most importantly his family. There were countless of times where he saved Gohan's ,Goten's, and Chi-Chi's life. On example of that is when he saved Gohan from Bojack. He left Otherworld (which was forbidden) in order to save his son and encourage him in order for Gohan to defeat Bojack. He saved both his son's when they were fighting Broly. If Goku did not come in time to fire the kamehameha when he did, Broly would have surely overpowered them. Also, you can really tell that he loves Chi-chi. He took time out of his training schedule for the androids in order to get his driver's liscense to make Chi-Chi happy. Also, he kept his promise in marrying her even when he found out that marriage wasn't a food. He may not know many things about finance, money, education etc. but does he need to?  The only thing I can see that would not make Goku the best father is that he is not always there for them but then again, he has his reasons.Msdbzfanssjelite (talk) 18:36, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

OP is correct[]

He's totally right. A lot of these reasons (plus numerous others) are why I don't like Goku much and why I empathize with (some of) Vegeta's irritation at him.

Goku has moments where he becomes really cool and likeable, but they are fleeting and short, as he usually reverts back to his idiotic self quickly.


Goku is naive and literally brain damaged but he is not idiotic.  He probably has a higher iq than most of the character to be honest. Remember, he spent 14 years of his life in a fucking forest with some weird old martial artists that taught him three things: 

1. Fighting

2. Speaking

3. Protecting.

That's his life. He is someone that cannot be compared to regular characters. Also, Vegeta's irration with him is literally that Goku could kick his ass at any time even though Vegeta trains his ass off. That's it. The other stuff is just more fodder for him to believe that Goku shouldn't be stronger than him. He isn't smart! He's a naive child! He's of lower blood! He has no Saiyan pride! That's it.

-Shakes Head-[]

Just to be clear, Goku does have a license, it took him around five tries to get it. Chi Chi explains it in the series. Goku does have his flaws for being a father but he does love his family and friends to death. Plus like everyone has said, why the hell would Goku need a Job where Chi-Chi grew up as a princess, and the Ox-King treats Goku like a son. 


Goku may train a lot more then most people but you gotta cut him some slack because he did die twice, and he never knew about Goten until he went to the Budokai Teckaichi Tournament(World Martial Arts Tournament) in the Buu Arc. Plus is Vegeta any better? Yes Vegeta around more but he basically does the same thing Goku does, and cut him slack for it. Always remember they are Saiyans, and they are warrior race that don't focus on family affairs like humans do.

To finish this reply off, let's talk about the Japanese traits. The Japanese men always left their familys back in the days of war time, other part of Japanese culture no matter if it was work, war, and any other matter. So technially it a certain way you overlooked the matter that the Dragonball, DBZ, and DBGT is all around Japanese culture. These are their roots, think about that.

nope he isn't the best but he is alright family man...[]

- knows how to hunt and feed his family

- teaches Gohan how to defend himself and the earth

- fuck the driving licsense bs, if Videl can learn to fly so can Chichi(only member in the family capable but stubborn about flying)

- he does spend his time with family (though not easily enslaved by them which makes them respect him)

-  knows how to handle noise. —This unsigned comment was made by CuberDBandZfan (talkcontribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Dude, he's a fictional character of an anime. What do you expect bill Cosby

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