Forum:Can kid Trunks kill Cell if he were alive.

Forum → Can kid Trunks kill Cell if he were alive.

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I have been trying to convince my brother that SSJ Kid Trunks can kill cell but he does not believe me. What do you guys think?

Probably not Perfect Cell, I think you'd need at least an SS2 for that. -- .10X.Ka^.me_.ha^.me_.ha^.._.^..talk_.^..._.contrib. 01:16, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

He can kill only Imperfect Cell(that too a BIG maybe).-------------Ucell

no. he wont be able to kill cell as he is only a ss1 and to kill cell in atleast his imperfect form, u have got to be at least the same level of a 2nd grade ss. wen piccolo fused wid kami he became stronger than an average ss but even he cud not stand a chance against imperfect cell (even wid the help of 17). so it goes to show kid trunks and even goten wud not stand a chance against him cuz they r only ss1. TheDarkPrinceReturns! (talk) 13:49, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

After his training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber he'd probably be able to beat Imperfect Cell if he went Super Saiyan. (Nubescout 14:05, April 8, 2010 (UTC))

yes, i totally forgot about the time chamber. there is a good possibility of him beating cell after dat training. TheDarkPrinceReturns! (talk) 14:10, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

i thik so

brndn rgt 05:07, May 19, 2010 (UTC) hes pretty strong for an 8 year old

maybe because trunks and gotenks together can because they almost killed majin buu

No

No, Trunk's best is up to a Super sayian, While cell's full power equals to that of a super sayian 2

if he can kill F.trunks with one beam, then he could easily kill kid trunls

Nimbus69 17:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Not really

Goku says in Yo!Son Goku and Friends Return! that Goten and Trunks were as strong as Frieza was in their super saiyan forms, Perfect cell is way beyond their league. It depends on how much stronger they got in the hyperbolic time chamber, but that ova is after the training in the htc so I'm gonna have to say no.

Trunks would die

No. He's a relatively untrained SSJ1. Goku as a FPSSJ1 wasn't able to beat Perfect Cell. And as said before Piccolo is stronger than a normal Super Saiyan and was unable to kill Imperfect Cell. Trunks wouldn't stand a chance. Gotenks would probably own Cell hard, as fusion results in a disproportionately strong fighter.

No way

I don't think he could even beat Imperfect Cell

Base is about the same as Frieza

We saw this in the OVA, so depending on how much stronger Cell is than Frieza (a lot), then maybe his SSJ form could fight Imperfect. --DARK 19:10, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I say Kid Trunks can even beat semi-perfect cell. Don't underestimate him. He was able to keep up with Android 18. And even surpassed her173.2.231.200 20:26, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Trunks could easily beat cell.You guys are underestimating Trunks.Trunks became a super sayian by just saying i'll guess i'll go super!Future trunks became super sayian by gohan dieing.

Vegeta also trained trunks.And knowing vegeta that'd be intense training.Trunks put up a decent fight against broly to.

Three things

Whoever said Future Trunks became SSJ when Gohan died, go watch the flashbacks and you will see Future Trunks went SSJ before Gohan died. Secondly, whoever said beating Android 18 is a great accomplishment, no. Just no. Thirdly, are you all really suggesting that Kid Trunks is STRONGER than FPSSJ Goku? I rest my case.

Wrong. If you'd actually seen the special of Trunks's timeline, you'd see that he goes super for the first time after finding Gohan's body. It's the sadness and anger from that even that caused him to go super. However, he had previously been training to go super and ALMOST got it. But not quite. JordanTH 03:48, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

In the movie Trunks turns SSJ upon finding Gohan's body. In the manga, Trunks had SSJ before Gohan's death.

Kid Trunks surpassing the androids is a great feat because we know he isn't a low level ssj. He would have to be somewhat near the assj's to beat android 18173.2.231.200 21:42, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

yeah he could

goku was able to beat frieza and cell and he didnt have to transform so i think that trunks could probably beat cell

Dont even bring up the events in hell during GT. That was all very confusing, not to mention Goku was MUCH stronger then, plus Cell and Frieza had not trained for a long time (I'm assuming).

You cannot compare like that,as SSJ is just a x50 powerup so the power of a super saiyan can vary. E.g. It took SSJ goku to narrowly beat frieza but later on normal gohan was able to beat him with a single blow wihtout transforming in the movie. In GT, goku's base powerlevel was higher than fat buu's and his original ssj3. However, i doubt kid trunks would be able to beat perfect cell as his power level was only slightly above frieza's in his base formi n yo son goku and his friends return

yes

if kid trunks was a ss2 then yeah but if goten was a ss2 and trunks and goten did fusion then cell would be easily crushed big time (Gotanks ss3 9/10)

The Fusion multiplies power by an unknown number.

Gohan is Supreme, Supreme is Gohan. I, am Supreme Gohan 15:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Keep in mind that base-form Trunks is stronger than Frieza, making SSJ Trunks at least 20 times weaker than Buu, maybe even 100 times weaker or more, but still a more reasonable number than 1000. And I could be wrong, but I thought the fusion multiplier was widely accepted as 100? Janemba4eva 16:02, August 9, 2011 (UTC)ch

Super Buu is well over 100 times stronger than any kai.

^ Base Trunks is not above Frieza. It's never been shown/implied, and that OVA is non-canon. Even if you do consider it canon, look at the fact that Tarble only knew of the power of Frieza's first form. Frieza never showed his final form until the Battle on Namek, let alone his full power. Even if base Trunks is above Frieza, it's never been shown and shouldn't be used in an argument. We already know that Trunks would dominate Frieza as an SSJ and might be able to beat Imperfect Cell, and that's all. Also, there is no "fusion multiplier", it depends on the fighters. Just because it's widely accepted doesn't make it 100% true unless it's stated or implied. SSJ Trunks is also leagues below Buu, most probably more than 100 times.

That guy pointed his finger and Kakarot fell down!PrinceVegeta66 23:21, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

It depends on the Form.

Ok so lets lay the facts down here. SSJ Kid Trunks did a simple Ki Blast NOT even at Full Power that almost destroyed 18. If she did not dodge it would probably destroy her. As seen she could NOT easily deflect it so the whole "she was holding back" arguement is ludicris. She had to dodge it then after that look at her experession she was in utter shock because of the power in that blast she almost pissed her pants. So forget the whole 18 holding back arguement. He also was not even at Full Power and was probably a little tired from fighting her before. So that puts SSJ Kid Trunks>>>Andriod 18. If you watched the show you would see that and it was also in the Manga to. So SSJ Kid Trunks>>> Andriod 18 as a fact. Case Closed.

Ok for the next part of my discussion. If SSJ Kid Trunks is above 18 enough to kill her with a simple Ki Blast not even in Full Power also probably tired aswell then he is definatly above 17 and Kamicollo aswell. As I doubt 17 and Kamicollo are that much stronger then 18. So SSJ Kid Trunks is probably around the same level as Imperfect Cell and Andriod 16. So I say SSJ Kid Trunks = Imperfect Cell > #16 > Kamicollo = or > #17 > #18. The evidence of this is seen in the show and manga itself so no arguement against it.

Now for the next part. The evidence above is before Trunks when into the ROSAT. Ok so since both Trunks and Goten where able to fully master the fusion and SSJ3 form(Which took Goku probably years to do in the Other World) in just a matter of weeks. This says they have a lot more potential then what you guys give them. So after the ROSAT I put SSJ Kid Trunks probably around Semi-Perfect Cell. So if you mean Perfect Cell I say no because that makes no sense to put SSJ Kid Trunks above MSSJ Goku and Gohan. LSSJ4 16:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

You completely fucked the argument up. Read what you just wrote, its full of I think this and what if that. You are lacking evidence. Where exactly does it say 18 would have died by that blast? The only reason Trunks was besting 18 sometimes was because he had Goten, making the guy unpredictable.

Cell > Trunks....

Okay, I'm getting sick and tired of idiots saying Trunks nearly destroyed 18 with that blast. 18 said the blast would've destroyed the arena, and I'm more than 100% that 18 could tank an arena destroying blast like it was child's play, her main concern was getting knocked out of the ring (all she wanted was the prize money). 18 far surpasses an untrained SSJ, and Goten and Trunks are untrained SSJs. Personally I think SSJ Goku from Frieza Saga would ass-stomp either one of them, they've got very little training and I doubt they were born with power levels of 100 million...

Trunks can't kill Cell or even Frieza for that matter, period.

ALSO sorry for replying to an old post, but I felt like I needed to say this.

EDIT: I didn't mean Frieza, my bad, I meant the androids....

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Perfect Cell, no way.

Semi-perfect Cell, yes.

Imperfect Cell, definitely.

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Trunks is ALOT stronger then frieza.

that movie made them look weaker then they really were. when goten and trunks were fighting android 18 they were holding there own without turning super saiyan. and they couldnt fight there best because they were both in the same costume.18 is an ass ton stronger then frieza, and remember how android 18 destroyed super saiyan vegeta without even trying. im not sure if trunks could beat perfect cell. but he would destroy semi perfect cell. plus goten and trunks trained in the time chamber for a short time but it made them even stronger then that.

Anybody that understands even a little bit about dbz knows kid trunks would get his ass kicked against perfect cell.

Even semi-perfect cell was stronger than 18, and 18 is stronger than a regular super saiyan..

So considering kid trunks can only go ss1 (not even full power or ascended), he could probably only defeat imperfect cell.

I dont get it why so much discussion over such an obvious thing.

^ My bad, I didn't mean Frieza, I meant to say the androids.....I think Trunks is a challenge to 18 (he held his own) but I don't think he was stronger. I don't know why I said he would lose to Frieza....

That guy pointed his finger and Kakarot fell down!PrinceVegeta66 18:58, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hmph..

NO! Cell would decimate his little existence before he could make his first footstep. Mysterious Luster (talk) 08:12, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

yes

you guys have to know that even though trunks can only go ss1, by training you can raise your base power level. in other words goku after all of dbz was probably as strong as a super saiyan in frieza saga. Super saiyan 1 trunks wont equal a ss1 goku or vegita in cell saga where they were still relatively weak. goku could probably beat cell and frieza in ss1 

Kid Trunks maybe

Maybe in imperfect form in super saiyan. He might be him, but even then it is doubtful.