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Alright I know gt is non-cannon, and it should stay like that....but from what we understand about Bills so far (even though it's not a whole lot) how would you's stack him up against the villians in Dragonball GT...Before anyone answers, I want you's to consider that Bills stopped ss3 goku with one finger (apparently), I doubt anyone aside from Omega Shenron would do that.
They all get destroyed
It all comes down to how easily Bills dispatched all the Z fighters, I feel like he would be a challenge even for an SSJ4. I dont know if he's quite as strong as Omega but maybe Super 17?
To me since bills can stop a Super Saiyan 3 with one finger I think he would destroy all the Dragon Ball GT viallians.AREA95000 (talk) 14:36, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
SSJ3 was useless against Super Baby Vegeta. If Bills can (and probably will) be killed in DBZ then most of GT villans is above him. In GT only SSJ4 matters.
SSJ3 still put up a better fight against super baby vegeta than Bills. Not to mention Goku's power was weakened in GT from turning into a child and he couldn't control SSJ3 as well. I put Bills at the same level as an SSJ4
Ultimate Gohan is times strgoner than SSJ3 Goku. He most likely can stop him "with one finger". while mystic gohan is stronger there is no way mystic gohan can stop him with one finger, he is not that much stronger
SSJ3 Gotenks probably will be more challenging for Bills but I think that, as always, Goku is going to finish him off. Oko500 (talk) 15:38, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
^^Bils doesn't die, he actually beat goku and it had said whis is wayy stronger than bils. lol imagine goku vs whis. But in gt, they use ssj4 for almost every battle and ssj4 didnt seem that special. I'm not really sure loool but first watch the movie then see what bill can do then we talk
Alright I know gt is non-cannon
Thank god it isn't. I used to love it. What if it bombs my face?
Sandubadear (talk) 01:11, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Still a mystery...
First of all, in the anime series, Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan are not stronger than Goku from any sort of perspective, whether we like it or not - they even state that several times, like when Goku fight a Gohan's clone ("just as strong as the original) inside Buu's body.
That being clear, maybe Bills' level is close to Baby Vegeta before he became an ape. But I believe this guy has some weakness or, better yet, a trick (something that makes him look stronger than he actually is, becoming impossible to defeat him without knowing what it is). This could explain the scene that Goku and Bills are shown fighting each other in space, where both of them look quite serious.
GT wins with ease
Goku(base) GT>Majin Buu
SS3 GT Goku=400x Goku(base) GT
SS4 Goku= Golden Oozaru boost of SS3(SS3 Goku was owned by bebi, and was matched with Golden Oozaru Bebi)
SS4 Goku>Bills you have no idea if ssj4 is above bills or not goku is becoming a super sayian GOD which is said by alot of people to be above ssj4, i see bills maybe beating them all, espicially if he puts up a fight vs SSG goku and bills has a confirmed GOD satus thats more than anyone in GT can say
Definitely GT villains
The villains like baby and super 17 are way stronger. BASE goku and vegeta are ridiculously strong compared to dbz villains like even super perfect cell. Even buuhan is not even close to as strong as baby got. We dont know exactly how strong Bills really is until we see him but it probably won't make a difference. He's no match for them- How do you know he could kill them all espicially with his god status and goku becoming a supersayian God, he beat the shit out of mystic gohan buu vegeta and gotenks even more convinclingly then super 17, id put him maybe past omega if he puts up a decent fight against a GOD even tho he is a God himself, SSG>SSJ4-Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 23:44, January 29, 2013 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96
King Kai is a god and is weak as hell. Being a god means nothing. SS God is simply a huge power-up, while SS4 was hard to achieve.
But, back to the subject, Bills is probably weaker than Baby, because, y'know, Goku trained a lot, and stuff.
Sandubadear (talk) 00:57, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
Bills only owned Z SSJ3 Goku
Using SSJ3 Z Goku vs. Bills and SSJ3 GT Goku vs. Baby Vegeta to gauge Bills' power against GT villains is no good. So what if Bills stopped Goku with one finger? It's a Z SSJ3 Goku. SSJ3 GT Goku is 400x stronger than SSJ3 Z Goku. Also, Goku did not lose power when turned into a kid, his kid body simply could not handle the demanding strain of SSJ3. So, we don't have much to compare on really. However, we can likely suppose that Super Saiyan God doesn't have a totally insane power boost of over 1000x. And Bills probably isn't over 1000x stronger than Goku. To easily own someone, it's pretty clear that a fighter doesn't need to be that much higher than another. In most one sided fights throughout DBZ, such as Frieza vs. Goku (normal), SSJ2 Gohan vs. Perfect Cell, Semi-Perfect Cell vs. Super Veget, Super Buu vs. Ultimate Goham, the stronger fighter could have probably stopped the other with just one finger. However, they like to drag things out and really beat on them. In these cases, the combatants are only 100x apart or less. So, while Bills could be 10,000x stronger than Goku and the SSG gives like 10,000x power boost, it is highly unlikely. Therefore, it is most probably that Bills is weaker than GT Villains.
User:Specialbeamkamehameha/sig 03:08, March 28, 2013 (UTC)