Base Goku and base Vegeta should have stomped!
Base Goku and base Vegeta should have stomped!
Since this was originally about the new Broly, I'm just goint to point out that Vegeta turned red. Just saying.
Broly's power is a mix of extremely high genetic potential (i.e., his birth power level of 10,000), harnessing rage, and stacking the Ikari/Wrathful transformation on top of Super Saiyan.
As well as just plot convenience.
First off, Broly achieved the mythical "over 9000!!!" power level while he was a baby. As an infant, he could take down about 2,000 farmers with shotguns (unless Farmer With Shotgun went Ultra Instinct. Then Broly's doomed.) Therefore, he has an amazing potential, and could harness even the first Super Saiyan transformation with more power than Goku or Vegeta.
On top of that, when Broly turns Super Saiyan and Full-Power Super Saiyan, he's going off of rage fueled by the death of his father. It's an anime law of physics that when you're A N G E R Y, you become a better fighter.
Finally, he's using the new Ikari/Wrathful transformation. I'm not even going to try to mess with multiplier numbers or anything, but if Ikari is use of the Great Ape form in base, and Broly's Super Saiyan and Full-Power Super Saiyan are SSJ and FPSSJ on top of this form, then he'd probably be equal to Super Saiyan 4 and Ultra Full-Power Super Saiyan 4, respectively. Assuming that SSJ4 = SSJB, or at least SSJ4 = SSJG, then the Broly's Ikari Full-Power Super Saiyan, stacked on top of Broly's potential, then he'd definitely make a powerful enemy for Goku and Vegeta.
Also, Vegeta getting SSJG is as about as believable as the Broly being the only one able to harness Great Ape in the form of Ikari, so... I guess whatever the development team wants now, y'know?
as a personal oppinion i would like to say why hes my favorite. first of all i love his design. the original broly i felt was a bit douchy... like he had all this gold and over the top fancy outfit. but this version of broly is more simple. hes wearing the classic saiyan armor and wears a ear pelt around him. like his design is not over the top. Plus sometimes it just felt like original broly didnt have more to his personality and inner character. like he was just a phyco killer and it was just... boring to me. but this verion of broly they actually portrays him as someone more than just a fighting machine. also i like the whole plot of broly's dad using him as a weapon in the dragon ball super movie rather than his dad trying to kill him and end his life. i do like his super saiyan forms and wrath form. all of it is awesome. i cant wait for another dragon ball arc and hopefully its broly vs goku 1v1 but goku in ultra instinct. i wanna see if broly will be able to stand toe to toe with legendary super saiyan against goku ultra instinct. plus if this fight did happen we will come up with a conclusion in that broly vs jiren debate to see whether broly can stand toe to toe with jiren.
I like Broly strictly because he is green, green is my favorite color.
Why is this topic still alive? It is pretty much useless now, we have been told in the movie already.
And commenting 4 times that the thread should be closed not only contributed absolutely nothing to the conversation, it's rather rude.
If anything, Goku should take Broly to Universe 6 for group training. Goku can train all of them how to actually fight. Kale can teach Broly how to control his transformation. Cabba could get the chance to become the next SSBlue. Broly could learn how to fight on a team. It could be a pretty nice training mini-arc.
Full Metal Dragon wrote: And commenting 4 times that the thread should be closed not only contributed absolutely nothing to the conversation, it's rather rude.
If anything, Goku should take Broly to Universe 6 for group training. Goku can train all of them how to actually fight. Kale can teach Broly how to control his transformation. Cabba could get the chance to become the next SSBlue. Broly could learn how to fight on a team. It could be a pretty nice training mini-arc.
I am not being rude. A bunch of people had already explained the same thing over and over, also, speaking about why you guys like Broly is off topic, just make a thread of why Broly is cool. Also I really don’t like the idea of Cabba becoming blue, if he did, SSJB would be ruined, it took Goku and Vegeta years to get to SSJB.
Only Gohan and Future Trunks should get Blue if anything, but even then they don't need Blue. They each have their own powerful forms that rival Blue.
I’d like to see Gohan return to the Super Saiyan transformations since Potential Unleashed wasn’t supposed to be a form but an increase to base, and he is really cool when he uses SS transformations.
I don’t really want to see the U6 Saiyans again unless they get revamped, they’re extremely annoying. I would like Cabba but he can’t fight for anything and loses every time and takes a back seat to the most annoying characters ever created, Kale and Caulifla.