According to the man formerly known as Flatzone, ssj3 has potential unleashed as a component, given that, shouldn’t a ssj3 Gohan be more powerful than UI Goku?
According to the man formerly known as Flatzone, ssj3 has potential unleashed as a component, given that, shouldn’t a ssj3 Gohan be more powerful than UI Goku?
Gohan did say he wanted to achieve a new level of power [through his human side]
Gohan in his Potential Unleashed has already gained all the power that he could possibly gain through Super Saiyan. SSJ3 is Goku forcing his way into his full potential, it is in this way, a Potential Unlock, but it cost stamina and ki to use, so much so that during the Buu Saga, he could only use it at full power once a day for only a few minutes. For Gohan, he has far greater potential than Goku, and what PU Gohan is, is what he would be if he mastered Super Saiyan 3 (Nullifying the stamina and ki drain) except he doesn't have to. PU is everything Gohan can be at the current moment. The only way for him to surpass this is by adding in the Full Potential Unlock of Oozaru as well as his Human form (SSJ4 is this) or to use god ki which is likely the only Super Saiyan form he can likely use along side his Potential Unleashed form due to it being nothing more than god-ki put into a Saiyan. Truth be known, if Gohan used Potential Unleash along with perfect god ki, he would automatically go to Ultra Instinct, because the shell and barier that Goku had to bust through is already open for him. And if my theory that UI being a form that transcends time (Which is how Goku dodges all of these shots that are some of them beyond light speed) then Gohan would reach mastered Ultra Instinct as soon as he uses god-ki.
Isn't that something? Gohan's potential unleash puts him all the way at MUI if he learns god-ki.
Also, how did you make this? I thought that these forums ended, like, a week ago.
I fear you are correct. I did enjoy these. The discussions post did get a legacy mode that you can choose that makes it look and function like these, the only difference I suppose is that more people will show up in the convos. You should go take a look. Because soon, it's all we'll have.
T~T
SS3 is 4 x SS2 for a fact and that is not inclusive of each users potential. SS3 is 4 x SS2 + the users full potential. Also PU Gohan can use SS, he has done it before and Goku and Frieza even ask him why he didn't go SS too. Gohan only chooses not to go SS with it for his own selfish reason.
I just watched the ritual in both movie and episode, and the failed and successful, and there was no indication of his eyes doing anything different from base form. However, I do know something. When using Potential Unleashed, your hair spikes up like if you were Super Saiyan. It's essentially Super Saiyan with black hair, and that didn't happen. Gohan was 100% base form. But I have one more bit of proof that says that SSJ and PU cannot be mixed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G4shXF9bo0
This shows Gohan (In SSJ2) being told by Piccolo to go to his full power. Gohan while in SSJ2 trys to use his potential unleashed, and when he does, his hair begins to flash black before the complete shift happens. This is Gohan's full power. It incorperates all of his power into one place, his base. But PU is indeed a form, as Old Kai told him that he has to access it similarly to how he achieves Super Saiyan, just with a Kiai.
The Potential Unleashed form must be the 100% utilization of everything inside of you (SSJ included) because as we saw, Gohan couldn't use SSJ on top of PU, and if he could, then he wouldn't have gotten clapped by Buutenks, because if PU Gohan is equal to Super Buu as is Gotenks, then this means that Buu only got 2X stronger. A 50X multiplier (at the very least) is plenty enough to handle Buutenks, but instead Gohan had to drop the Potara and get absorbed too.
So in conclusion, I believe that SSJ3 is the full potential of the Saiyan, but at the same time, Toriyama states that SSJ1 can surpass SSJ3 in power while draining less energy. This means that SSJ1 can achieve the 100% full utilization of a Saiyan's potential. Does this mean that it's a direct multiplier? No. It actually doesn't. The 50X 100X 400X thing doesn't mean all that much anymore since Toriyama just essentially said that SSJ1 can surpass SSJ3 in power. This means that 50is only the starting place. SSJ is a slow form of Potential Unlock, and when completely mastered can push someone to their full current potential to even that of SSJ3.