It seems that there was a limit of 500 messages. Which is pretty impressive, anyways, call me a madman if you want to for re creating. I feel like this discussion is not over yet.
It seems that there was a limit of 500 messages. Which is pretty impressive, anyways, call me a madman if you want to for re creating. I feel like this discussion is not over yet.
JIREN Touched goku while he was fighting, jesus christ.
OKAY I GET THE POINT! I was wrong okay?! UI Goku beat Kefla, another fusion warrior. Is kefla on the same level as Gogeta? Kefla had the Legendary Super Saiyan transformation (Full Power Super Saiyan now). That's stronger than any other mortal saiyan form. It's no SSGSS, but it's close in power.
Kefla wouldn’t be on the same level because it’s fusee Kale was far weaker than Broly. Not to mention Goku went toe to toe with Kefla in KKX20Blue.
I don't know what else to say, so I'll say this. Gogeta has the edge on KI and power, while MUI Goku has the edge on speed and defense. Gogeta is prideful and goes into battle thinking it's already won while Goku tries to remain humble. Where does confidence end and over confidence begin? Would that be a factor?
I would have to disagree with MUI Goku having the edge in speed and defense, we’ve seen Gogeta go against the likes of Broly in his base form so I’d say as far as stats go Gogeta has the overall edge. MUI Goku does have the auto dodge and auto attack but I just don’t believe that’s be enough to defeat Gogeta.
Gogeta doesn’t believe he has already won, he just enjoys a good fight. Gogeta isn’t over confident, he just knows how powerful he is and how much people are in danger when fighting him. He and Vegito are always planing mid fight as they continue to unnerve the opponent by talking smack and backing it up. However if you sufficiently anger Gogeta(and have nothing held over him such as in the fight between Vegito and Buuhan) you see in Janemba’s movie he will absolutely obliterate his enemy with overwhelming tailored force.
Gogeta did not fight in base form, he went SS to fight. He used base to just lure Broly away from the area they started at
He did manage to dodge them without any sign of panic, so he must be as strong or stronger then Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta
I would say that UI Goku steps SSB Gogeta, if we look at the particular deeds, we have UI Goku vs Jiren and Gogeta vs Broly, first Jiren is declared factually stronger than all the Gods of Destruction and UI Goku was close to being in On par with Jiren to the point of pushing it to its limits, UI mastery is something that not even GoDs can easily reach, and Goku surpasses those limits, with all GoDs respecting the mortal who surpasses them. Now if we look at Gogeta's first feat, we see Broly being trampled by Gogeta, but was still able to punch for a long time, however, even after the fight, Goku says Broly may be stronger than even Lord Beerus, now if we turn to something Whis claims during the power tournament, it is simply said by Whis that Jiren is stronger than the gods, IMO Whis is a much more reliable source of information than Goku would be. If you want more information, However, I Goku says Broly may be stronger than even Lord Beerus, now if we turn to something Whis claims during the power tournament, it is simply said by Whis that Jiren is stronger than the gods, IMO Whis is a very source of information. more reliable than Goku would be. If you would like more information, however, I would watch Geekdom101's YouTube video about Goku Ultra Instinct Goku VS Gogeta Blue, he and some others explain this well and answer your question perfectly.