Kaestal wrote:
Nice, so you'll continue destroying your own argument for why GT comes from Super by using the counter argument of "nothing is canon/continuity is up in the air"
Good plan.
So you think that continuity means the exact same thing as canon when in fact you're wrong. so i haven't destroyed anything.
'0551E80Y, do you really need the sources re-linked and the points re-made in each post? The reasons that GT is improbable in the same timeline have already been made clear, and your reason for dismissing them is because GT was made long ago, if I'm reading this correctly. That's an appeal to antiquity. That also would imply Super isn't canon by such logic. Alternatively, if you're talking about the in-world time gap, you should be paying attention to the details that you previously dismissed stating they "are NOT mentions of gt."'
Well you should probably know that when super was first announced last year there was a gigantic discussion/argument on the talk pages of both series covering stuff like while making things inconsistent for two series to be incompatible with each other. that argument is easily crushed by the fact that the original manga made by at is inconsistent with itself.
yes that is correct what i am trying to get through to fans is that the creators/owners of db haven't made an official canon they have had a long time to do it but they haven't because they don't care about canonicity
'0551E80Y, do you really need the sources re-linked and the points re-made in each post? The reasons that GT is improbable in the same timeline have already been made clear, and your reason for dismissing them is because GT was made long ago, if I'm reading this correctly. That's an appeal to antiquity. That also would imply Super isn't canon by such logic. Alternatively, if you're talking about the in-world time gap, you should be paying attention to the details that you previously dismissed stating they "are NOT mentions of gt."
While I'm willing to believe GT is canon and takes place in the same timeline for one reason or another, I am not going to believe it is without seeing these things actually happen. I am merely challenging the notion that it's canon as the only ways it can be canon consist of improbable events, authoritarian mumbo jumbo, or alternate timeline.’
But what really irks me? You keep talking about how everything is just everyone's headcanon, but then you start harping about how yours is the truth. "The true concept of it is that the absence of an official canoncity(sic) is the only and most powerful evidence of the canon issue in db. while you may take what i've said as opinion it is in fact the truth. cos just like at i don't care for canonicity. he had 20 years to do something about it and i've had 20 years to give a hoot."
You speak of evidence and headcanons but dismiss evidence and push your headcanon as the truth. You're like an Arceist going door to door all over Kanto trying to tell people how their scientists are full of it about Mew. The Kantins had no exposure to organized religion and just don't get what you're on about.'
I love your comparisons to Pokemon btw. Not being sarcastic
but you seem to misunderstood a very important fact I HAVE NOT ONCE PUT IN MY HEADCANON! But if you want me to, I will.
Manga isn’t canon
Db and z aren’t canon
Super isn’t canon
Gt isn’t canon
Evolution was wonderful with originality.
There you go. Why I haven’t put that in is it because it really doesn’t matter to me. And I don’t try to push that canon on others like joseph did with his; only the truth, which is an official one doesn’t exist.
I also believe it is time for the db series to get rebooted it’s gone for so long now it is a mess. And It needs a do over. imagine: The pilaf saaga being shown again with different elements and characters with the new graphics from super and continuing to world tournament and red ribbon saga. That would remove gt from existence along with everything else and we get to relive dragon ball again. Hopefully with no inconsistencies and an official canon.
So why don’t you just wait till super finishes before deciding what is and isn’t accepted.