https://youtu.be/rGbFHDQidcM?t=9m10s Goku begs to differ.
Ummm.
It's more like is the person 2x the other guy or not that makes a curb-stomp battle possible, I mean... if you were to fight someone twice as strong, fast, and tough as you it wouldn't go well in pure physical combat.
Vegeta GT is Toei's most hated character, post "THAT'S MY LAZULI!!!" (no, PBulmaxPVegeta sucks in my opinion) Vegeta S is stronger than that
Yeah but we're talking about Base here
Yeah, but if SSB is 10X stronger, then obviously their base would have to be 10X stronger. I'm not saying the multiplier for SSB increased. I'm saying that the base of Goku and Vegeta would've had to increase by 10X that their SSB forms would be 10X stronger
Ok, so how much stronger is current Base Vegeta compared to DBZ SSJ3 Goku you think? In terms of multiplier
Sigh.... time to figure it out again.
If we are using God Base as the Base form then refer to the below chart.
Using Full Power Ultimate Gohan as a reference, he lost to 1st form freeza or .5% Freeza's power (roughly, at least for both)
SS3 Goku was equal to SS Gotenks, who increase his power 8 times when becoming SS3 and matching Super Buu.
Gohan dominated Super Buu.
Ultimate Gohan is probably around 16x stronger than SS3 Goku, maybe more.
Freeza's full power is roughly 200x his .5 power which beat Ultimate Gohan. (When Gohan went Super Saiyan he did it to bring himself back to his Super Buu dominating levels)
Full Power Post Training Freeza is, at least, 3,200 times stronger than DBZ SS3 Goku.
(Please note this would be stronger than DBGT SS3 Goku as well)
Base God Vegeta was equal to Base God Goku (or at least around that level of power, no huge differences), who could outmatch Post Training Freeza.
With all this level of ridiculous power, I'd say God Vegeta's base form is anywhere from 3,200 times stronger than SS3 DBZ Goku to 6,400 times stronger, based on how Post Training Final Form Freeza faired against God Goku's base form.
It's probably higher than that considering that Ultimate Gohan equivalent was one shot by 1st form Freeza, and an exact number is difficult to gauge because of that, and also the Buu fight showed that Gohan could curb-stomp the guy so that is also kinda hazy.
I wouldn't be surprised if God Vegeta and God Goku were somewhere around 10,000x their previous max power in their base forms.
And Gohan managed to match Goku in a recent episode.....
If we are using God Base as the Base form then refer to the below chart.
Using Full Power Ultimate Gohan as a reference, he lost to 1st form freeza or .5% Freeza's power (roughly, at least for both)
SS3 Goku was equal to SS Gotenks, who increase his power 8 times when becoming SS3 and matching Super Buu.
Gohan dominated Super Buu.
Ultimate Gohan is probably around 16x stronger than SS3 Goku, maybe more.
Freeza's full power is roughly 200x his .5 power which beat Ultimate Gohan. (When Gohan went Super Saiyan he did it to bring himself back to his Super Buu dominating levels)
Full Power Post Training Freeza is, at least, 3,200 times stronger than DBZ SS3 Goku.
(Please note this would be stronger than DBGT SS3 Goku as well)
Base God Vegeta was equal to Base God Goku (or at least around that level of power, no huge differences), who could outmatch Post Training Freeza.
With all this level of ridiculous power, I'd say God Vegeta's base form is anywhere from 3,200 times stronger than SS3 DBZ Goku to 6,400 times stronger, based on how Post Training Final Form Freeza faired against God Goku's base form.
It's probably higher than that considering that Ultimate Gohan equivalent was one shot by 1st form Freeza, and an exact number is difficult to gauge because of that, and also the Buu fight showed that Gohan could curb-stomp the guy so that is also kinda hazy.
I wouldn't be surprised if God Vegeta and God Goku were somewhere around 10,000x their previous max power in their base forms.
And Gohan managed to match Goku in a recent episode.....
But apparently we aren't talking about the Saiyan Beyond God Form that beat Frieza, but their actual base without God Ki. I was confused about that too
Does he even have that god ki-less base form anymore?
Yeah, when he goes only Regular Super Saiyan, such as the start of the Magetta and Kabe fight. Earlier, I scaled that Vegeta to be around or stronger than Perfect Cell with Piccolo scaling.