I’m really confused on that whole thing. He should be weaker than Beerus because Beerus keeps getting retconned. But there is also a statement from Supreme Kai about him rivaling Beerus or something. But then people say he’s not always right like with Yakon. So how strong even is he?
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My comment was not directed at you, but to address the gt Goku and Beerus thing. How the game works is that characters act like the character they are interacting with is from their continuity regardless of it they actually are. I don’t know why but that’s what it is. And on top of this, games don’t prove canonicity as I’ve said before. It could just be different in that game. Which they clearly are.
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It would have been on the timeline if they just had super. But they have it twice, which shows it’s not meant to be whatever people are trying to say. I can respect the sugoro space meta or whatever else. But I can’t in good conscience think gt and battle of gods are connected due to a wall that clearly isn’t showing one continuity.
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I don’t think this is a serious question. I don’t have to lie to not take something seriously. If I took it seriously, I’d be debating you.
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Would make zero sense continuity wise, it’d make the story worse so it’s good that they aren’t. And the only thing supporting the idea is a timeline wall. This timeline wall has battle of gods and super separately on it. If this timeline actually meant in order of events on the same continuity, battle of gods would have happened twice, so it’s obviously not saying that.
^^Most people have realized it, and that’s a good thing.
Indeed, thinking Goku wins is right. And thinking the opposite is wrong. Glad everyone can come to this realization.
It’s definitely not a debate. Goku slams, no effort.
Tbf, Kid Buu had no good in him either. He was pure evil. The answer is that at the time, Kid Buu was the strongest opponent Goku faced and was supposed to be the last one. So he wanted to fight him again, but for fun. Frieza wasn’t strong enough to meet that requirement. And by the time of rof, Goku had already wished for Kid Buu to be revived. No point in wanting Frieza too.
I thought the question was which one was the best, I don’t know why I thought that. I would have voted for SDBH.
Btw, I did say gt > super but that doesn’t mean that I think anyone who believes that is stupid. That’s just the one I disagree with the most and it’s the one I’ve heard the most.
The battle of gods movie is a Z movie, it’s in the name. The battle of gods arc is the super version.
Episode one Goku probably
I’d argue that Base Vegeta did better against King Gomah than SS4 Goku mini did. Which goes to show just how much the characters were nerfed in Daima.
I’d assume he was talking about 100% Beerus cause it’d be weird to mention a suppressed version of a character and then not elaborate that you were talked about that suppressed or weaker version. In the manga and anime, Beerus didn’t go all out cause Goku would have died instantly if he did. They mentioned that Beerus used 10% of his power but in the anime, that’s clearly a lie cause then blue kaioken Goku would have been able to beat Beerus and we know that’s not true. Don’t know if that is ever stated in the manga.
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I think YBKK is right. Vegeta was doing well against Gomah until more oculus boosts. And in general, it doesn’t seem to be much stronger than SSJ3. SSJ4 is lot stronger than 3 in GT.
Yeah.
If King Vegeta does not exile Broly and sets all that stuff up. Then she probably would be a part of the squad. I’m not sure if she would go with Raditz to Earth first or if she’d tag along with Vegeta and Nappa. Either way, if she does, the Z fighters are screwed. I don’t see them convincing Broly to be good because she’s growing up in a proper Saiyan conquering environment. She’d be doing evil things for all her life. If she is with Raditz. Piccolo and Goku will certainly die. If she is with the other two. She might go great ape or enter her wrathful state when Vegeta goes great ape and then the Z warriors are screwed. Or maybe she would fight the remaining Z warriors after Nappa and kill them herself.
Black Frieza has no feats other than one shotting Goku and Vegeta and I think it’s been stated that Beerus is stronger. Yet Vegito still had the statement about being equal to him or something like that. So he’s relevant even now. I’d get to meet Vegito too which is a plus. If I picked Black Frieza. After everyone coming after me is dead. He’d just kill me for forcing him to defend me. That’s assuming he’s the strongest though and he might not be.
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