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GOKU (23rd WORLD TOURNAMENT)
Grab:
Blast 1: Afterimage
Blast 2: Wild Sense
Super 1: Kamehameha
Super 2: Miracle Collision
Wait what do yo mean I forgot his ultimate-
Ultimate: Meteor Combination
GOKU (PERFECTED SUPER SAIYAN BLUE)
Grab: idfk lmao
Blast 1: Inner Focus
Makes Goku passively gain meter for a time
Blast 2: Ultra Instinct Principles
Gives Goku the UI dodge for a time
Super 1: Azure God Cannon
Super 2: Unleash it now!
Starts with a rush where Goku knocks the enemy back before Gohan appears
Ultimate: Destruction
XENO TRUNKS (SUPER SAIYAN GOD)
Grab: his Xenoverse one
Blast 1: Afterimage Strike
Blast 2: Key Sword
Boosts the power of Super 2 and Ultimate
Super 1: God Burning Attack
Super 2: Justice Slash
Ultimate: Key Sword Breaker
(Ignore the Death Battle it was the only thing that portrayed what I wanted for the ultimate)
Fin.
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I've been thinking about this one for awhile, and while I used to think one was better than the other, but now I'm starting to think that they both fit their respective adaptations well. Now, I'm not here to argue which form gives a bigger power boost, and whether anime Goku should've gotten PSSB over Blue Kaioken, which is what I originally thought before; I'm here to explain how I've realized how each form fits their adaptation of Blue better.
Perfected Blue in the manga is basically just applying the principles of Mastered SSJ in the Cell Saga to SSB, where the user condenses all of their godly energy into their body, boosting their power exponentially and leaving no trace of ki aura. The power boost was so great that it allowed Goku to fight on equal terms with Fused Zamasu, who he was previously getting ragdolled by, and prepare a powerful Hakai blast. This form was created because in the manga Blue has a serious stamina drain issue, retaining its full power only in the initial moments after transforming before dropping in power drastically. The power drain was so bad Vegeta had to train and create a technique to rapidly switch between God and Blue, because SSG not only consumed less energy, it allowed the user to move faster than they would in SSB; the speed boost thing never really made sense to me but whatever. I have a personal headcanon that the rapid stamina drain is due to the emotional imbalance of combining SSJ and SSG, but anyway, like all forms, Perfected Blue has one harsh drawback, that actually makes it really similar to its contemporary Blue Kaioken. If one lets even lets a little bit of all that condensed godly energy leak from their body, they will experience excruciating pain, sort of like how if the user's body isn't strong enough to handle the level of Kaioken they are using properly or if they don't control their ki perfectly, they end up harming themselves.
In the anime, SSB seems to have no stamina drawbacks whatsoever from what I know, I could be wrong, correct me in the comments if I am. The anime figures that since SSB requires a calm heart and mind to control, and Kaioken has those same principles, why not combine them? Blue has no noticeable stamina drain after all. The problem in anime Goku's case was that his body was not strong enough to handle it at first, and it led to what King-Kai called an anime-only phenomenon called Delayed Onset Ki Disorder, in which Goku could barely control his ki, and his metabolism was seemingly affected, as Goku did not eat as much as he usually would. Eventually, this affliction passed, and Goku was able to train his body over time to the point he could use Kaioken times 20 along with SSB, and not experience any drawbacks whatsoever.
At the end of the day, while I still do prefer PSSB conceptually, and otherwise do think that Blue Kaioken looks cooler, I think both fit their respective adaptations of Dragon Ball Super well and I wanted to highlight this. If you actually took the time to read this, thank you for reading and leave your thoughts down below.
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Context: https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_God-to-Blue_switching
Let's start with the manga's interpretation of it first. In the manga, Vegeta goes into the Time Chamber and uses it against Goku Black after he returns to the future for a second time. It works, because SSG consumes less energy than SSB, because like normal SSJ, the form has inherently poor stamina and in SSB's case, it is only at max power for a brief period after transforming and then exhaustion sets in and the user's power in the form drops drastically.
This all made sense to me, but then it was said that SSG is apparently faster even though SSB is supposed to be the more powerful evolution of it. That part didn't make much sense to me, in RoF nothing was said about SSB being more slower and primarily being a more defensive and heavy-hitting form at the cost of speed. SSB is supposed to increase all of the user's physical attributes, like how SSJ increases all of the user's base physical attributes.
Furthermore, all of Goku and Vegeta's training seemingly pointed to them learning how to master God Ki by internalizing it within themselves to mitigate stamina drain in godly forms. In RoF, Goku and Vegeta both had achieved a form (honestly more of a technique, whatever) known as Saiyan Beyond God, which involves the user condensing godly ki within themselves-forgoing the need to transform and letting the godly ki flow through the user's body naturally, as if it was normal ki.
The fact that Vegeta already knew about this technique means that he could've applied it to his mastery of SSB. In a way, mastering SSB was kinda like how mastering SSJ was, where the user had to condition their bodies in order to stay in SSJ for an extended period of time, which is part of mastering SSB as well, conditioning your body to stay in the form for longer periods of time. Of course later on after Black fused with Zamasu, Goku decides to reveal he had this form in his back pocket all along. Pretty sure it was just a plot-induced power up for Goku, Vegeta could've figured it out in the Time Chamber, with Vegeta already being a gifted learner, along with being the analytical fighter that he's become, which Whis actually noted in the T.O.P. and Vegeta himself showed more in the arcs after it.
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What would you all say was the multiplier for super saiyan blue evolution I personally would say 1 million