But anyway since we are on the topic fun fact about future trunks . He achieved SSJ offcreen in the orignal toriyamamanga and was NOT because of future gohan. that was the anime ova

Ironically DBS made said Anime movie canon and made that manga panel no longer canon

It's part of the reasons people think DBS is canon to DBZ kai( kai might very well be canon or atleast partially to be honest) like inferno clown and the others. it' funny. DBS again improved a canon characters background,but people don't know..

wow, the ova anime/special also wasn't canon. So canonically it was offscreen. Don't know why Super redid the scene considering its Canon to Kai and this was from a Z Film which none of does are canon well at least not to the storyline. why would Super add non canon stuff? is it nostalgia bait? like how they ruined Piccolo's death and it wasn't even necessary in the anime, the film luckily didn't have that.

Because toriyama allowed alot of stuff to be redone. in DBS(and in all of toriyam works since attack of saiyans) he made gregory, a character , he made for the anime team excluively, canon to dragon ball. even in toriyama random manga shots he drew gregory

I am not entirely sure DBS is fully canon to kai (cause mecha freeza and hell looking different) but, it' clear toriyama decided to re do some of the stuff in favour of the anime

maybe it couldn't. Considering Kai also had Frieza in Hell, and that was the same scene in Z. It was where the villains in Hell were watching Goku fight Kid Buu. Kai surprisingly kept the Hell Filler scene.

^^Isn't Frieza's hell in DBS a personal hell rather than actual hell?

It's earth's hell and he was in a cocoon,tormented by angels, was in his mecha freeza form(until he died again ) and couldn't move. and in kai he's not in his organic form, but in regular hell, hanging out With cell. he also clearly had freedom, given him and cell used to bully the oni/warden occasionally

^Maybe King Yemma moved Frieza to Earth's Hell?

Would be, the issue would be him apparently turning back to mecha freeza, when in kai he's in his normal form. not to mention when he return to hell, he's in the form he died in (final form) so it' would be strange for yemma to punish him once but not do it twice. But who know

Also yemma in the TOP arc implies killing a person in a certain area forces them to be placed in that area's specific hell, since he told goku that if he had to kill freeza again, just to do outside of earth so freeza can finally not be in that hell anymore(apparently he bothers yemma being in earth's hell). kinda implying it was out of his hand.

I Always treated it the same way DBZ kakarot devs told people to treat their game:semi canon

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