NervousShipper wrote: If by "murder" you mean "lose badly to", then you're right.
Yeah, well, about that.... I agree with you but DBS had been truly messed up and inconsistent with power scaling.
Orion Invictus wrote:
LordWhis wrote: I was disappointed by how badly they treated Piccolo though. They should have shown him using the kaioken and becoming as strong as initial sign goku and helping out against Jiren
Are... are you okay?
Besides the ridiculous power scaling, a Namekian using Kaioken could very well surpass Goku's x20 limit, due to their self-regeneration. Frieza could probably do it too, because he can survive under almost any condition, although he would be unable to recover from the damage on his own.
There is nothing that ridiculous about the powerscaling. Peers of Piccolo such as Non-UI Goku, Vegeta, Frieza and 17 were all able to achieve similar levels by pure willpower, Piccolo could logically do the same based on how the rules seem to work in the DB verse.
LordWhis wrote: I was disappointed by how badly they treated Piccolo though. They should have shown him using the kaioken and becoming as strong as initial sign goku and helping out against Jiren in vegeta and Goku's first fight against him. He could have been quickly knocked out by Jiren after getting serious or perhaps KOed but waking up to block the attack loco jiren sent towards the audience stands (getting eliminated in the process). He wouldn't have really conflicted with the story but it would have been more honourable than being eliminated by a bug man in a gag sequence.
Because of this I was a bit salty about how well 17 was being treated (he was pretty much the MVP !) Though by the last episode or so, the sheer awesomeness was too much for anyone to be salty.
Piccolo accidentally killing Gamisaris while powering up would have also been cool.
I think it's important to note that as an android, 17 doesn't tire and doesn't require food, only hydration. Not only was this useful in the ToP (other fighters gradually tired as the fight went on, giving 17 the edge), but it also means that he can train for longer than the likes of Goku or Vegeta, who have to stop to rest and eat.
According to Toyotaro's 36th Manga chapter, 17 can't even sense Ki.
I believe so, but what is your point?
Hahah, oh well.
I think I've heard before that 17 and 18 can't sense ki, I think it has something to do with their artificial ki. We all know organics can't sense Android Ki, so I guess it works both ways.
They don't have auras either, but check out the ToP
What do you think?