What's on your mind?
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(edited by Supersaiyanloser)
(except for raspy, hope you lose your wallet for all the bad takes)
Yujiro Hanma(The Ogre)
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Broly LSS (First movie)
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Drew fused Zamasu.
What if Vegeta And Goku didn't use the potara?
Starting off in S-Tier.
Useful in most to every situation.
Potential Unleashed (or Ultimate): It's quite the simplistic form, just a Super Saiyan transformation without the glow or show. Gohan has mastered it to this point, and he uses it mostly as he can.
Super Saiyan 1: The OG Super Saiyan, The Citizen Kane of all transformations. Very useful with no strain or struggle. Not much to say about it, it's the bread and butter of transformations and usable in every situation to start a battle with. "You're no match for what I am now!"/10
Super Saiyan 2: Like but what I said earlier, yet stronger and faster than its Super Saiyan counterpart. The introduction was cool, the style was cool, and it's just stylish. cough cough Majin Vegeta and Goku cough cough. "I thought you wanted this, Cell."/10
Super Saiyan Rosé: "What do you think of this color..is it not beautiful?~" It is beautiful. It really is. Also say what you want, I'm biased and like Goku Black, but he's never shown to be beaten from it or suffer any strains from said transformation. "What do you think of this color..is it not beautiful?~"/10
Super Saiyan God: The power of a Super Saiyan God! Underused and underrated I'd like to see it a bit more. Slimmed down with pure power, sensed by gods only, and it's a pretty nice thing to use. No more on the matter. "So, how does it feel about being a god?"/10
Moving onto A-Tier.
Usable mostly all the time, but lacking in some things.
Super Saiyan Blue Evolution: One of my All-Time favorite transformations; 2nd favorite, no less. Sure it's Super Saiyan Blue with sparkles, but it's perfect for Vegeta only and has that sorta flair, y'know? Besides the ki drain, it's pretty useful in battle. "I'll beat you on my own pace! At my own terms!"/10
Super Saiyan 4: Bias. Yes. But while Goku and Vegeta's Apex Form of the Saiyans, it's not S-Tier for some reasons despite it's pure power. (King Kai don't hate me, kekeke.) Not much to say tho, it's my 3rd favorite from it's straight epic looks. "Your reign ends here, Baby."/10.
Scurried to B-Tier.
Ideal, but some things drag it down.
Super Saiyan Rage: I'd use it. It looks pretty good as a style, and looked cool, usable in battle no doubt, but it's short time makes it pretty inefficient in some areas. Worth it to hold off Goku Black, but still weaker than a Super Saiyan Blue. "If my actions make me a sinner..then that's exactly what I'll be!"/10
Along comes C-Tier
Not the most..optional of the bunch.
Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken: The transformation that rocked the english dub. Somehow ultimately worse than Super Saiyan Rage, due to well, factored the immense pain put on ones body, but I'm just scaling this up to in general. The plain power strain Goku faced was too much to be used constantly in battle. "THIS IS IT, KAIOKEN...TIMES..TEEEEEENNN!!!!!!"/10 (hah.)
Ultra Instinct: (Yes it's not a transforamtion. No I won't remove it.) I'm pretty sure you know what's wrong with this, it's not entirely battle ready, and it's yes, strong, but the time contraint is TERRIBLE. Along with the major body tearing, you'll need to defeat your enemy into submission in under a minute or less. "It's an ultimate technique that severs the consciousness from the body in order to allow the body to subconsciously move it to even attack and evade. It's called 'Ultra Instinct'./10."
Mastered Ultra Instinct: Everything as I've said above, but a shorter time limit, in under 30 to 40 seconds (as someone stated (in this wiki) before when he fought Jiren). Not much to say on this. "NO ONE HURTS MY FRIENDS AND GETS AWAY WITH IT!"/10
Super Saiyan 3: There are things that have been said that not even I need to say. It's just, so so useless. With so many other forms outclassing it in speed, style, stamina, and power. (Style is debatable but I'd still say it otherwise cough cough Super Saiyan God cough cough)
Ikari, or Wrathful Mode: Everything Legendary Super Saiyan is, but weaker. Sure it's a cool concept, but it's feels like a 'dumbed down' version of Super Saiyan 4, a Great Ape but controlled into a Super Saiyan, and it's just, alright at best. *BROLY SCREETCHING*/10
Legendary Super Saiyan: BROLY STOP SCREAMING KAKAROT'S NAME JESUS CHRIST! Anyways. The Legend. Broly. There's a bit more flaws than Super Saiyan Rage here, go figure. Blind, pure rage. Power with no control, given into pure emotion with nothing but anger. Seemlessly endless energy btw. KAKAROOOOOOOOOTTTT!!!!!!/10
Driving along D-Tier
Super Saiyan Grade 2 or Super Vegeta: Speed -> Power. Useless in battle. Supremely outclassed by Super Saiyan 2, as it can raise Speed and Power without sacrificing either, and is clearly stronger by leaps and bounds. Not as Useless as Grade 3 though, I have some..words for Grade 3. "THIS..IS SUPER VEGETA!"/10
Golden Oozaru: Monke, but Gold. Not much to say here, wasn't used often lol. Not very usable kekek. Just big monke with big skill and well, not much to be used here.
Kaioken (x2, x3, x4, x10, x20): It's awesome. I'm not gonna lie, but as an ability, and yes I know this isn't a transformation, but it can still count as a power boost nonetheless, kinda discarded tbh, but Super did bring it back in an amazing way. "KAIOKEN...TIMES...FOUUUUUUR!!!!"/10
Great Ape: M o n k e. Some love it. Some hate it. I'm that middle ground, it does serve well for the first transformation though, but it's just too big to be used normally by any other random Saiyan, unlike Vegeta who's (I assume) used it a ton in the past.
[BLEEP] THIS [BLEEP] TRANSFORMATION. IT'S [BLEEP]ING USELESS.
Super Saiyan Grade 3: I. I don't like this one. It's literally BUFF. FOR NO REASON BUT SLOW POWER, AND IT'S JUST NOT IT. CALL ME BIASED BUT YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. IT'S A *WORSE* GRADE 2. "Oh, yeah. In raw power, it can't be beat. But the amount of concentrated energy causes an extreme expansion in mass. The body can't compensate! And while you'll see a fifty percent power increase, you'll see a seventy-five percent decrease in speed and mobility! You'd never hit your opponent!"/10
Why are there people wielding pitchforks and torches outside of my house...? Well, whatever. I know this sounds like the stupidest thing you've ever heard, after all, who in the world could possibly think this? Well, it's not what you might think. You could possibly be thinking "This guy is just GT Biased". Well, I won't disagree, I am GT Biased, but this is not that. Ultra Instinct is legit one of the few things in DBS that I believe was done better than anything in GT... or at least I USED to think that...
The form is fantastic, don't get me wrong. It was special. It wasn't a regular transformation. It increased power, but it also had a sort of method behind it that made it almost impossible to touch. It became a truly ultimate form. The kind of transformation that we deserve. The sort of transformation to end all transformations. But most recently, it's turned bad. The reason for it is simple. The special has been taken out of it. Since recently, Goku has learned to take the transformation's autonomous movements and make it a natural thing (A bit too fast might I say. should literally have taken months of trying and experimentation. And yet he learns it as soon as Whis says "Learn it"). Think of it. Goku can now use Ultra Instinct in base form. This literally nullifies the entire transformation it's self, because the one thing that set it apart from other transformations has been stripped from it, and is now addable to anything he wants. SSJ? Sure! SSB? Done! The autonomous movements of the transformation are now the autonomous movements of EVERY TRANSFORMATION. So now that it's been given to every form, what are we left with? Another power-based transformation. Whis literally said "If you ever need to surpass your limits, use the transformation". He literally right there said "Okay. It's just another multiplier form now like all the other million Super Saiyan transformations". The form has showed up 2 times in earnest, and 1 time in training with Whis, and already it's been turned obsolete. But make no mistake, it'll be used as much as SSB now. It has literally become the new Super Saiyan Blue. The best parts of it are gone. I mean, yes. The form shouldn't have even been a form in the first place, which is why I loved Omen the best since it didn't appear to be a transformation. But they did so. And because of this, they should have left it as is. In my ideal world, Goku would have taken forever to learn to put it into base, but when it FINALLY gets put into base, it should nullify EVERY TRANSFORMATION. Goku should have been able to use the power of his ULTIMATE god transformation without transforming, just like Whis. But the simply made it autonomous in base form without power increase or anything. Now it is literally just another power increase. MUI was one of the few things I liked better than anything out of GT, but now it's sort of ruined. I know this would have been natural evolution for the form, but it was done SO WRONG. They did it FAR too early, and they nullified the power increase of this. This should have been shown as UI's final form. The ability to use it without using it. To power up to the fullest and use everything with it without transforming. But they needed to keep the transformation relevant, so they totally destroyed the concept so we can keep seeing the hair color change. To be honest, this has upset me. It was the best concept to come out of DBS and it was my favorite thing to get, but they literally destroyed it. It was turned into a base too fast, and in an effort to give Goku a reason to still use the transformation at all, they ripped the best part out of it. They should have either just let him do EVERYTHING in base form, or kept it as a transformation and simply say "Goku simply can't force his mind to let go unless he surpasses his limits". But alas, it can't be changed now. It was a cool concept, and even the base thing is a cool concept, but it's been ruined. It was a GOOD transformation during the Tournament of Power and Moro Arc, but now that Goku can use the best part of it anytime he wants, that UI part will quickly be forgotten and just become a normal thing, and the transformation has become just another Super Saiyan Blue. So now it's a BAD transformation. Just another hair color in his plathora of colors. "We got yellow, red, blue, green, and now white!" So it was nice while it lasted, but Toyatarou and Toriyama sort of screwed it over. Perhaps this is what it ALWAYS should have been, but they didn't do it and made it into a transformation. Now it's practically ruined.
Okay. This is less of an insight and more of a rant, so imma change the name to "Dragon Ball Rant". Sorry if I made you guys mad. But this really was the one thing I liked more than anything in GT, and now it's ruined. I know Toriyama is the original creator of Dragon Ball, and I know he chose Toyatarou for it, but now you see why canon means nothing to me, because Toriyama doesn't seem to care about his series anymore, and Toyatarou doesn't truly get the deepest part of Dragon Ball. Canon means very little now, because the heart is out of it. It's no secret that Toriyama doesn't like writing Dragon Ball. He himself has said he never liked writing martial arts centered action manga. He wants to write comedies like Dr. Slump and OG Dragon Ball. And Toyatarou, forgive me for saying, but he has never been the best at writing this stuff. In his manga, he literally had DBZ Broly become a good guy because he went to therapy. Yeah. The genocidal, psychopathic, patricidal, schizophrenic, serial killer who destroyed Planet Shamo and most of the South Galaxy, really can be a good guy if he sits down with someone and talks about his "feelings". Look. I'm going to be honest. Toriyama chose the wrong successor. It should have been Young Jiji. Jiji's story made sense and felt like Dragon Ball. At least he could have done better. Hell, I could do better. DBS was pretty good in places. But all in all, there were things that were sort of stupid, and things that shouldn't have happened. We seriously got two movies remade, two Tournaments featuring the same characters, and a confusing time travel story (Partly the best arc in the DBS series). Even the Broly movie was meh. It was fantastic, don't get me wrong. But the motivations behind it seem like it would have been a better story for us to see a Super Market brawl over toilet paper. Sorry if this makes anybody mad, but this was really a mistake and I can't let it go.
Well, it's a big thing to talk about. I'm not a youtuber really, but I'm not going to miss the chance to address this myself. So for anyone who doesn't know, I'll tell you what we've figured out so far about it, and what I think about it all.
According to Toei Animation of Europe, there was planned to be a surprise announcement regarding a new film in the DBS line, and a sequel to the Broly Movie that released in early 2019. The story was leaked sometime yesterday I believe. But the link is bad, and takes you to a 404 Error Page with an image of Beerus hakai'ing stuff, which is actually funny in a way. This has been speculated, and wondered if it's a leak, or simply Toei trolling us, but since it was planned to be announced on Goku Day (Which hasn't come yet, and is actually this sunday), it seems possible that this is an accidental leak and that it was never meant to be released this early. I highly doubt that Toei would do this to it's fans, because a trolling like this would piss off a lot of people. And considering that it's not even Goku Day yet, it seems safe to say that it's likely not a trolling, since the scenario has happened early. It would also explain the 404 Error Page. Whoever was setting it up must have actually made it go public while they were working on it (I hope nobody got in trouble for that). But it seems likely that this sunday we will get confirmation of a new possible movie. So keep your ears to the ground and your eyes to the skies, because something big seems to be on it's way.
Now, on for what we wonder that it could be. Some people have said that it might be a movie about the first new arc of the new manga (As spoken by Geekdom101 and MasakoX), but, like them, I'm a bit skeptical about that. It just doesn't seem like it would be a god thing to do seeing how unpopular the arc was overseas, but I won't discount it. I personally think it will be another one-shot movie that will likely continue the story of Broly (And maybe make mention of the Moro Arc or something, and insist that it happens between Granlolah and Moro, but that's just an idea). I personally hope for Cooler's canonization, but that's just me. The movie has no details released about it, and we'll likely know a bit more about it this sunday if we're lucky. But one thing I should mention is about the way things have worked in the past, and we all know that the past likes to repeat it's self. Please refer to The first World War and it's sequel about 20 years later. According to the past, we had a Dragon Ball movie, and it did well after the long drought since the release of the last Dragon Ball series (GT which was not widely accepted and was released in Japan in 1996 I believe). Then they released a second movie, Resurrection F, which also was well received. And a year after this, the anime dropped with a retelling of the movies, which then evolved into the Universe 6 arc. 2 movies and then a series. So far, we have Broly, and now we have the upcoming movie in 2022. If everything plays out the same as before, we could expect to be watching a new Dragon Ball Super anime series some time in mid 2023. I know, seems so far away, but remember, DBS ended in 2018, which was around 3 years ago. We've only got to wait another 2 years, so we're over the hill. And while we wait, we get to enjoy a new movie to tide us over. Imagine the conversations that will spark! And if they learned anything from Broly, they know what the fans want. Hopefully they'll fit well into the groove and produce something as great as that. Let's get a real conflict. A real 3 way battle would be perfect. Frieza finds Cooler, and Cooler is to help him get Broly back, but Goku and Vegeta don't want that and are trying to protect Broly, but Broly wants nothing to do with either of them and has a three way match between the strongest warriors. And yes. We would get MUI and SSBE this time. And maybe Frieza will get something of his own to use, like a new form. Or perhaps we'll get to see a CoolerXFrieza Fusion. But I'm just being hopeful now. We don't know. Let's just hope it's great!
So tell me, what do YOU guys want out of this new movie? What are your thoughts and expectations on it's release, plot, and future for the series? Tell me below! Thanks!
Tell me what you think and thanks.
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7 year timeskip: Okran once again wasn't able to contribute, he was happy that they won. But he was still not doing anything, so he decided to quit fighting. He instead just focused on his job as a martial arts teacher and that's it. He had gotten a bunch of students and was actually doing well. He then met a girl at some point. They got married and a kid is now on the way. He finally felt happy and content. He really felt like fighting wasn't for him anymore. This was the life he felt like he needed.
Tournament Saga: Okran was alerted about the tournament. His friends were going, he decided to take his family with him because they were just going to watch. But then everything happened with Spopovich and Yamu. Okran saw what was going on, he felt like he needed to go. He didn't train or anything but he felt like he had to help somehow. They encountered Dabura as usual but this time is was Okran and Krillin that were turned to stone, not Piccolo. Everything happened a little faster than usual until Buu kills Dabura.
Buu Saga: Okran is freed and goes with the others to the lookout. Goku decides to go and distract Buu, everyone senses ssj3. Okran realized how far behind he was. He shouldn't have stopped his training. If he had continued, he possibly could have even stopped Buu from coming out using forced spirit fission. But he stopped, and now things are bad. Okran helps train Goten and Trunks. Piccolo does most of it though. Goku is already back in the otherworld.
Fusion Saga: Goten and Trunks are not finished learning the technique, as usual, it's been 2 days. So Super Buu shows up demanding the warrior he was promised. Piccolo told Buu to go kill everyone else first, so he used the human extinction attack. It killed everyone on earth. Okran felt the life of his family be erased. He now fully understood the mistake to stop training. Now his family was gone and he wasn't able to save them, just like when his parents died. But this time, he had enough. He accepted the rage, he accepted his Saiyan side. And he ascended to the next level.
He was now a Super Saiyan. He saw how everyone got stronger, it was because of their pride and Saiyan instincts. These were things that he tried to suppress but realized that they were the only way to make him the strongest he can be. With this new power, came a big self-esteem boost. With his new long-suppressed power, he punched Super Buu with enough force to send him flying back. Super Buu was shocked that this was only a Super Saiyan and he did that. But Super Buu still wasn't scared and decided to get back up. Okran told Piccolo to go and finished training Goten and Trunks. Okran fought valiantly, but he still couldn't win. He used some of his techniques but he stopped his training so they were not that useful. He was eventually turned into candy by Super Buu. But his effort was useful, Goten and Trunks finished their training earlier, he was ready to fight Buu. Even then he wasn't strong enough, but eventually, Gohan came to help. Both of them together with everyone else providing backup made this fight much easier, whenever Buu tried to absorb someone. The z fighters would warn Gohan and Gotenks. Gotenks worked his way up to SSJ3. Things were looking well, but then Buu was able to successfully absorb Gotenks. Gohan was losing now. So as a safety percussion, they sent Goku and Vegeta to lend a hand. All 3 of them fought Buu, eventually, Goku and Vegeta fused into Vegito and they destroyed Buu. Vegito went inside and freed Gotenks. They even freed Majin Buu. This turned Buutenks into kid buu. Kid Buu destroyed the planet and was going on a rampage. Everything ended in the same way. Everyone who died was returned to life including Okran. But this time, Okran didn't feel bitter. He felt like he did something. He felt like he contributed. He was in another world so he decided to start his training again. He came back and reunited with his family. Then the era of peace came.
End of Z: Okran trained a lot during 10 years. He had mastered SSJ2 a year ago. But Okran was in his 70's. He was aging a bit. But he wasn't 80 yet so it would not start to take full effect. Okran was very strong with his Yardratian techniques. His family was happy. His kid was 11. The tournament came, Okran decided to enter for old time's sake. There he saw his friends. Everyone had a nice reunion. Then the fight between Goku and Uub happened. Okran saw how happy goku was, he sensed how Goku's spirit was happier than it has ever been. He had a strong fighter who he could fight that would just keep growing. Okran calmed down Goku's family, he told them that this is going to make Goku happy. So that cheered them up a bit. And then it ended.
So that's it. I might do super and Gt if people actually liked this. Feel free to let me know if you liked it.
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